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00:12:49 <lambdabot> (Functor f, Field2 s t a b) => s -> (a -> f b) -> f t
00:15:06 <shachaf> mauris_: looj i invented s t a b
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00:22:12 <mauris_> shachaf, a.k.a. Looj the First
00:22:28 <shachaf> i was not the first person to use it
00:22:33 <shachaf> but probably i shouldn't even be using it in here
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00:27:41 <boily> shachaf is royalty?
00:28:03 <boily> and how does one pronounce the “j” in looj?
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00:44:34 <\oren\> Hmm. I'mma make a variant of my font where \ and ¥ are swapped, for nefarious purposes
00:51:07 <Sgeo> What's wrong with login_name@server ?
00:54:13 <Sgeo> Well, I guess if you're using ssh in an automated fashion it could be useful
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01:02:45 <\oren\> what if your username has @ in it
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01:19:14 <boily> \oren\: that is unacceptable!
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02:15:30 <\oren\> I just finished Runic, which unicode block should I do next?
02:22:13 <mauris_> \oren\: are you making a font
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04:29:50 <\oren\> ᚠᚡᚢᚣᚤᚥᚦᚧᚨᚩᚪᚫᚬᚭᚮᚯᚰᚱᚲᚳᚴᚵᚶᚷᚸᚹᚺᚻᚼᚽᚾᚿ
04:31:28 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm
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05:05:31 <\oren\> myname: which symbols should I add next?
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05:07:23 <Skin> Can someone tell me what language this is https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/Paws.c/blob/Master/Source/Nuketypes/execution/Script.c
05:07:33 <myname> that's a good question
05:07:44 <Skin> Someone sent this to me out of no where and I'm honestly confused
05:10:57 <Hoolootwo> yes that is C, one of the oldest languages still in use today
05:11:48 <Hoolootwo> also there's this thing https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/Paws.c/search?l=c
05:14:10 <\oren\> it's C but formatted in a screwy manner
05:14:46 <Hoolootwo> C is basically meant to be formatted screwily
05:17:34 <\oren\> no. there are standard ways to format C code so it can be read fluently
05:19:21 <myname> the .c at the end could have been a clue
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05:50:25 * ashl tries to remember something which was written in a bizarre dialect of C where they had ifdef'd return to R and so on
05:54:40 <ashl> don't think so... this is going to drive me nuts.
05:55:15 <shachaf> http://www.nsl.com/papers/origins.htm
05:55:55 <ashl> how did you find that
05:56:13 <shachaf> I've worked through most of that implementation with someone before.
05:56:22 <shachaf> Though I don't remember much about it now.
05:56:27 <shachaf> Something about boxes being strange.
05:56:40 <ashl> i was thinking 'it was something to do with APL' but that's nowhere near enough to actually google it :P
05:57:33 <HackEgo> ashl: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
06:00:22 <shachaf> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=apl+%22define+r+return%22
06:00:54 <shachaf> I guess that trick doesn't work if you're expecting ifdef.
06:01:16 <ashl> yeah i have no idea where ifdef came from
06:01:40 <myname> apl ascii is also a good choice to find J iirc
06:02:14 <ashl> well, it came from having just woken up and not having had any coffee yet
06:02:20 <ashl> so i'm going to make some coffee.
06:05:50 <shachaf> myname: Sure, but presumably they weren't looking for J but for some strange C program vaguely related to APL.
06:05:57 <\oren\> I often #define ei else if
06:06:33 <\oren\> and #define bcase break;case
06:12:12 <ashl> makes sense i guess
06:21:06 <myname> i often avoid writing c
06:21:31 <ashl> makes sense i guess
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07:05:31 <FreeFull> https://github.com/kevinlawler/kona/ This does similar things too ashl
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07:13:39 <ashl> synthesis of APL and lisp heh
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12:18:41 <int-e> "stack" is going on my nerves... when will people stop naming their stuff by common words...
12:20:24 <int-e> . o O ( Go swift, stack! )
12:20:53 <shachaf> int-e: all the uncommon words are taken hth
12:22:29 <int-e> . o O ( The vacuum containers cabal strikes again. )
12:31:52 <oerjan> int-e: they tried to suggest a renaming, but it was refused...
12:32:15 <Deewiant> https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/3d3e95/please_rename_stack_to_haystack/
12:32:55 <int-e> oh that would be a rather nice name.
12:35:40 <int-e> Deewiant: thanks for the link
12:41:11 <\oren\> is "salmon" acceptable?
12:44:36 <int-e> \oren\: as long as you're not using it for some kind of food, cutlery or dishes...
12:44:42 <int-e> (that isn't salmon)
12:46:58 <\oren\> "salmon" is the language some of my work is done in. http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Salmon
12:48:29 <Taneb> For the first time ever I have solved a Rubik's Cube!
12:50:01 <oerjan> did you use group theory
12:50:10 <Taneb> For this, I did not
12:50:16 <Taneb> I followed a tutorial I found on the internet
12:50:30 <Taneb> Although I can definitely see how group theory could be used
12:52:29 <int-e> Taneb: One can explain conjugate elements on a Rubik's cube :)
12:52:43 * oerjan notes that Hacker News's font size is so awkward to adjust right that it's become the first site he turns off CSS entirely for
12:54:10 <int-e> [if you have a combination that swaps three particular edge pieces, but you want to swap three different edge pieces, you can first make some moves to adjust their positions, then use the combination, then undo the moves you performed initially; algebraically: A C A^-1, A = adjustment; C = combination)
12:55:01 <int-e> oops, sorry, I disturbed the natural balance. (]
12:55:05 <Taneb> You can do a lot of group theory with a rubik's cube
12:55:30 <oerjan> someone should make a puzzle whose group is the monster
12:55:37 <int-e> it's just that I like the conjugate explanation best.
12:55:39 <Taneb> Like, if you mess up a rubik's cube, then keep messing it up IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, you eventually get back to the start position
12:55:47 <oerjan> i suppose that might be a bit hard to solve
12:56:33 <int-e> and the larger cubes are actually a (permutation) group acting on the cube's surface, because they have indistinguishable pieces.
12:58:16 <oerjan> Taneb: i've done that with the "rotate one face, then rotate the whole cube" operation. i think it took somewhere between 1000 and 2000 repetitions.
12:58:42 <oerjan> rotate one face 180 degrees too, that's much faster and has pretty patterns
12:59:50 * oerjan briefly wonders if the no. of repetitions for 90 degrees + whole cube depends on which directions you choose
13:00:16 <oerjan> well, the two nontrivial options
13:01:33 <int-e> Taneb: oh and there's also a use for commutators, though mainly because they tend to result in very short cycles.
13:02:18 <int-e> (try (r u r' u')^3)
13:02:23 <Phantom_Hoover> because i can see why conjugates would, but not commutators
13:03:41 <oerjan> i vaguely thought commutators are useful for getting combinations that avoid moving certain cubelets
13:04:31 <oerjan> because anything that's left untouched by one of the two elements doesn't move overall
13:09:36 * oerjan concludes the two nontrivial ways of "rotating 90 degrees first a face, then the whole cube in a nonparallel direction" are conjugate
13:10:13 <oerjan> through 180 degree parallel rotation
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14:06:26 <int-e> > foldl lcm 1 [1,4,1,3,12,9,10,14]
14:06:44 <int-e> somewhere between 1000 and 2000 indeed.
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14:32:18 <oerjan> i may have looked up that number sometime
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14:54:36 * mroman is watching last week tonight
14:55:16 <mroman> All these shows make me think that america is actually very poor.
14:55:29 <mroman> the people there at least.
14:56:20 <mroman> a woman can't pay a 41$ fee
14:57:03 <Taneb> America, to my knowledge, is a country with a lot of money in a few bank accounts
14:57:41 <mroman> Well I feel really rich now :)
14:58:05 <mroman> I could pay 250 of those each month and I wouldn't give a shit about it.
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14:58:26 <mroman> I wouldn't even notice that
14:59:26 <mroman> I could pay 250 of those
14:59:35 <mroman> but only every year :)
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14:59:53 <mroman> I FEEL LESS RICH NOW THX TANEB
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15:00:10 <mroman> but still rich enough :p
15:00:31 <mroman> "Taneb: Making you feel less rich since 1970"
15:00:48 <Taneb> Seeing as I was born in 1994 that is quite impressive
15:00:58 <Taneb> In 1970 both my parents turned 7
15:01:01 <mroman> You're so bad you did evil even before you were born.
15:01:11 <Taneb> I think my mum was living in Pakistan, and my dad was in Australia
15:01:37 <mroman> I thought you were older.
15:02:10 <Taneb> Just I've been hanging out in here since I was 15 or so
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16:16:43 <Taneb> Random trivia: I can sort of run backwards
16:18:02 <ashl> do you mean you can moonwalk quickly
16:18:19 <Taneb> No, I can't moonwalk at all
16:18:25 <Taneb> But I can run backwards
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16:23:23 <HackEgo> 1137) <shachaf> A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric."
16:24:45 <HackEgo> 944) * fungot has joined #esoteric <boily> woohoo! the one and only fungot is back! <fungot> boily: damn your mother! <boily> ok. never saw that one coming.
16:25:03 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.8487
16:27:59 <ashl> 'U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O'
16:33:59 <int-e> ashl: it's one of the more popular unicode codepoints around here
16:35:26 <ashl> has it made it into any esolangs
16:35:46 <int-e> diligent, too... always watching
16:37:27 <int-e> somehow, making the same mistake over and over again makes it really hard to solve some puzzles...
16:39:21 <int-e> ( http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1 ... finally got it. )
16:39:22 <idris-bot> http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1 ... finally got i>
16:39:46 <ashl> idris-bot: a little eager perhaps?
16:40:15 <int-e> (sorry, I should've put some non-space after the opening parenthesis)
16:41:48 <int-e> > http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1
16:41:50 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:59: parse error on input ‘=’
16:42:00 <int-e> hmm, a tad less verbose in this case :)
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18:08:16 <zzo38> Yesterday I was on the ifMUD and I had a 69105-dimensional mapping tool, and I was also reading the dreaming channel. And then I was updating my "dream.txt" file, and then when I saved it I noticed that the file is exactly 69105 bytes long!
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19:27:05 <ashl> |f`-`|f: not a fan of 69105-dimensional mapping?
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19:58:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Object oriented thue]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43727&oldid=42649 * 4D enthusiast * (-33) /* stdtime */ altered behaviour of pause and ms commands
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20:05:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Object oriented thue]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43728&oldid=43727 * 4D enthusiast * (+0) Added link to an interpreter
20:10:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:4D enthusiast]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43729&oldid=34256 * 4D enthusiast * (+146)
20:12:09 <zzo38> A "JazzJackrabbit" game has .PSM files it seems to be music files is there a document of format of such file?
20:12:44 <zzo38> Well, libmodplug seem to be able to play it, whatever it is.
20:13:05 <shachaf> zzo38: http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/Epic_Megagames_MASI
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21:19:33 <oerjan> <int-e> ( http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1 ... finally got it. ) <-- argh what are the rules
21:19:47 <oerjan> also, i hate timer on puzzles.
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23:11:02 <\oren\> quote 489) is the moment #esoteric became the dwarf fortress channel
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23:15:05 <HackEgo> 489) <Phantom_Hoover> FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard.
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23:46:42 <HackEgo> 577) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED
23:51:18 <HackEgo> 527) <Taneb> Mayor says we need to make aluminum items <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items.
23:51:43 <Taneb> `quote pointy steel
23:51:43 <HackEgo> 466) <Taneb> Maybe if you try diplomacy. <Taneb> Pointy steel diplomacy
23:51:49 <Taneb> I think that was DF
23:52:17 <Taneb> Anyway I am going to bed now
23:54:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[POGAACK]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43730&oldid=42648 * Xavo * (-4)