00:04:24 <hppavilion[2]> Here is an HTTP server that you never want to run, as it makes all your files accessible to everyone, written in wcalc: http://pastebin.com/gWFap23c
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00:08:27 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
00:08:42 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
00:09:04 <myname> where is that past tense definition
00:09:06 <impomatic_> "Some game-theoretical aspects of parasitism and symbiosis" by Anatol Rapoport might be the earliest reference to the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma. I just need to find a copy that doesn't cost me 30 to read!
00:11:07 <rdococ> hppavilion[2]: lol at your url
00:11:44 <rdococ> we need an original idea
00:12:15 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: I still think practical esolangs are an interesting concept. Web Calculus is one of those.
00:12:25 <rdococ> programs could be defined as a set of computer instructions, or as a problem and its solution...
00:13:08 <rdococ> or an automaton system...
00:15:03 <myname> i like bullying automata
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00:16:40 <myname> they are great puzzles!
00:16:55 <myname> you should invent one and make an android app
00:17:05 <rdococ> what if a program was a meta-thing
00:17:16 <rdococ> e.g. a word processor would be a meta-document or something
00:17:22 <rdococ> or a paint program would be a meta-painting
00:17:52 <rdococ> I had this idea where you would be able to make your own file format and a program to edit them
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00:37:45 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: Perhaps you should design a language that takes advantage of the full features of word processors
00:38:00 <hppavilion[2]> Like, not just bold and italics and underline, but EVERYTHIN
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00:47:11 <rdococ> what kind of things are even in a word processor?
00:47:55 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: Font size, color, underline, italic, strikethrough, headers...
00:48:06 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: I suppose better would be to allow HTML-based formatting
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00:52:41 <rdococ> Inside Out, the programming language
00:54:12 <rdococ> so programs would be memories
00:54:21 <rdococ> programs would be series of memories
00:54:28 <rdococ> happy memory, sad memory, angry memory
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01:00:34 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: I just made a tool to industrialize making FORTH-like languages
01:00:41 <rdococ> what about a method-oriented language
01:01:54 <rdococ> in object-oriented programs, objects can send messages
01:02:20 <rdococ> so a message-oriented program would involve messages sending objects?
01:03:33 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: Oh god. This tool is SO BORING TO USE. xD.
01:04:04 <hppavilion[2]> It literally just takes a length and generates all possible strings of symbols up to that length
01:04:13 <hppavilion[2]> Then has you assign meaning to those symbols at random
01:07:31 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: Perhaps I should make this language web accessible and allow people to participate?
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01:11:52 <hppavilion[2]> rdococ: How about a nice refreshing session of arbitrary symbol naming? xD
01:19:12 <hppavilion[2]> oerjan: I have industrialized FORTH-like language documentation production
01:20:36 <hppavilion[2]> It won't produce very good languages, but it's basically just a way to make stupid esolangs on the fly
01:21:59 <oerjan> `le/rn icfp/I see functorial people.
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01:36:31 <quintopia> ...yep that's exactly what that means
01:46:36 <oerjan> `learn WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to.
01:46:39 <HackEgo> Learned 'www': WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to.
01:46:56 <pikhq> Not for some American English speakers.
01:47:12 <oerjan> i added "properly" for a reason hth
01:47:15 <pikhq> "Dubyadubyadubya" is a bit faster than "world wide web".
01:47:32 <oerjan> ...still skeptical, actually
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01:50:55 <myname> in german, it's way shorter
01:51:20 <deltab> w is the only letter in the english alphabet with a multisyllabic name
01:51:53 <deltab> I propose calling it 'dub'
01:52:41 <myname> including the new music genre wstep?
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01:55:11 <pikhq> It doesn't help that "W" was typically represented using "UU" for quite a while...
01:55:14 <oerjan> if they can call that music, then they can call w dub
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01:56:26 <oerjan> i recall the old 5 volume encyclopedia we had alphabetized w as v
01:57:32 <oerjan> (well, my dad still has it afair)
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02:03:00 <FireFly> I think I'd prononuce www in english as vvv because I'm used to doing that in swedish
02:03:48 <pikhq> I'm afraid if you do that people will think you're talking about VVVVVV
02:07:59 <oerjan> https://static.bokelskere.no/cc9a45bdd11fb8130a5b1e5d46b8531035f49655c4d4852b3c7eabd1.jpeg
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02:17:26 <\oren\> am i right in thinking that in German Volkswagen is pronounced wolksvagen/
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02:19:21 <\oren\> also, I pronounce www as "wuuuh"
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02:23:21 <quintopia> \oren\: more like folks-vagen i'd say
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02:33:36 <int-e> sigh. some asshole was spamming lambdabot with @karma requests, saturating its output queue...
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02:49:44 <oerjan> \oren\: afaict german doesn't really have the english w sound except maybe as part of the diphthong "au"
02:50:43 <int-e> (there's some room for improvement on lambdabot's side here, needs a bit of thought though)
02:52:16 <int-e> fundamentally though, the number of messages that lambdabot receives is not bounded, while the number of messages it can send is; it's just not popular enough for that to be a problem under normal circumstances so far
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02:56:42 <oerjan> (the same is true of norwegian, with the diphthong spelled the same way.)
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02:58:11 <int-e> I'd say ittrue for german at least.
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02:58:34 <int-e> ... *shoots whoever put ' next to return*
02:58:47 <int-e> s/ittrue/it's true/
02:59:13 <oerjan> too good for em, obviously
03:12:06 <lambda-11235> "You Don't Know JS", I can 1-up that with "You Don't Know Malbolge".
03:13:20 <oerjan> be careful in japan hth
03:15:32 <\oren\> how the hell do you turn a plane at high altitude and speed?!
03:15:59 <\oren\> I can't turn worth a damn
03:16:44 <\oren\> or, apparently, descend
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03:21:06 <pikhq> I think you learn that in "how to fly a plane" class
03:24:48 <\oren\> well I added even more flaps
03:24:57 <\oren\> hopefully now I'll be able to turn
03:29:56 <int-e> . o O ( are you building a flappy bird... )
03:34:51 <\oren\> well it is like a giant delta wing plane
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03:36:53 <\oren\> i also added some thrusters to turn even if we accidentally into space
03:40:19 <int-e> can you add wheels and a ship propeller as well?
03:42:43 <\oren\> it has wheels for landing
03:43:21 <\oren\> the thrusters work to turn at ultra high altitude too
03:45:27 <\oren\> the issue is that in ksp, it's ridiculously easy to accidentally go into suborbital spaceflight
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03:55:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:The chan-esoteric stack]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46463 * Zzo38 * (+179) Created page with "I have made a few different Z-Machine implementations (ZORKMID, JSZM, Famizork). Which do you mean? --~~~~"
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04:18:08 <lambda-11235> Just finished a haskell implementation of Goto.
04:22:36 <int-e> Goto the programing language?
04:22:49 <int-e> or the language construct?
04:23:06 <lambda-11235> int-e: This language (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Goto).
04:23:10 <Sgeo> What is a monad, but a miserable pile of gotos?
04:24:06 <lambda-11235> Sgeo: I think you have a monad confused with a current continuation.
04:24:10 <int-e> Sgeo: it is, foremost, an abstraction.
04:24:47 <Sgeo> lambda-11235, well, monads basically use delimited continuations. Which I guess is not the goto-like continuation, to be fair
04:25:09 <int-e> Sgeo: For example, the identity monads has nothing like goto at all ... it just adds syntactic weight to pure computations.
04:25:49 <lambda-11235> Sgeo: How is the list monad like a delimited continuation?
04:26:07 <lambdabot> Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b
04:26:28 <int-e> I guess Sgeo views the second argument of bind as a continuation... but that really has nothing to do with monads
04:27:06 <Sgeo> ^^ The first part of what int-e said
04:27:13 <lambdabot> Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
04:27:26 <int-e> these three operations make a monad
04:27:51 <Sgeo> If you have a syntax for delimited continuations, you have syntax sugar for any monad
04:27:52 <int-e> But (>>=) is convenient for actual programming.
04:28:15 <Sgeo> https://github.com/urso/embeddedmonads
04:30:57 <int-e> isn't that more of an Applicative?
04:31:19 <int-e> > (,) <$> [1,2,3] <*> "abc"
04:31:21 <lambdabot> [(1,'a'),(1,'b'),(1,'c'),(2,'a'),(2,'b'),(2,'c'),(3,'a'),(3,'b'),(3,'c')]
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04:31:46 <Sgeo> int-e, you should be able to do .value.value, which is akin to join
04:32:14 <Sgeo> I don't exactly have an easy way to test it though
04:32:19 <int-e> anyway, that looks nasty to me
04:32:57 <int-e> > join [[1,2,3],[4,5]] -- just do something like that?
04:33:53 <Sgeo> .value pretends to have the type (Monad m) => m a -> a, within the run
04:34:09 <Sgeo> Just like <- in Haskell do notation pretends to be (Monad m) => m a -> a
04:34:52 <Sgeo> But because of Scala's support for delimited continuations, you don't lose flow control constructs
04:35:05 <int-e> well, but <- is builtin syntax, and there's a formal translation...
04:35:50 <Sgeo> embeddedmonads abstracts out builtin syntax for delimited continuations
04:36:00 <Sgeo> int-e, have you read the mother of all monads post?
04:36:28 <Sgeo> http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/12/mother-of-all-monads.html
04:36:30 <int-e> I may have.. something about Cont.
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04:39:13 <zzo38> Monad can be consider related to a generalization of a list comprehension, the monad operation can easily be defined for the lists and then you can see how it can also be use with other monads such as IO monad.
04:41:19 <zzo38> I have also made up generator monads in JavaScript
05:16:48 <Sgeo> generator monads = those monads whose bind only calls the continuation at most once, and therefore have a convenient syntax in languages with native generator support?
05:17:00 <Sgeo> (e.g. Maybe but not List)
05:17:25 <Sgeo> Oh, maybe as in a monad for generators?
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05:23:26 <zzo38> For a description of what I mean you can look at part of the document https://www.npmjs.com/package/genasync
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05:40:24 <zzo38> I am a bit confused about how conversion of picture formats works in Xlib.
06:01:36 <adu> zzo38: I thought xlib only understood buffers
06:06:07 <adu> zzo38: can I help you be less confused?
06:07:01 <zzo38> I looked at it and hope I will do it properly, but I am still unsure if it is correct (even if it works)
06:07:56 <adu> zzo38: I used to do pixelformats in libsdl and OpenGL
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06:12:15 <zzo38> The only thing I can check is that it is working properly on my computer, not necessarily that it is correct
06:15:22 <zzo38> I know that the depth of the XImage structure has to match the real depth but exactly what else is allowed?
06:15:48 <adu> oh like with the proto, or without hw accel?
06:18:37 <b_jonas> ah, he's not the evil twin. he's just an alternate nick.
06:21:54 <zzo38> It says "If the clip-mask is set to a pixmap, it must have depth one and have the same root as the GC, or a BadMatch error results." The instructions for XCreatePixmap says "The depth argument must be one of the depths supported by the screen of the specified drawable, or a BadValue error results." Is depth 1 always supported? (When I type "xdpyinfo" on my computer it says it is)
06:22:50 <zzo38> Is it allowed to make a XImage with depth 1 and in ZPixmap format and copy it to a Pixmap, and if so what restrictions does it have when doing so?
06:24:26 <zzo38> Do you know the answer of these questions?
06:26:03 <b_jonas> hehe, more one-line burrito tutorials?
06:28:49 <b_jonas> `slashlearn burritos/Burrito are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:28:56 <b_jonas> `slashlearn burritos/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:29:40 <b_jonas> `slashlearn burrito/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:29:45 <b_jonas> `slashlearn burito/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:29:49 <b_jonas> `slashlearn buritto/Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:30:35 <b_jonas> ``` ln -sf wisdom/burrito wisdom/{burritto,burito,buritto} wisdom/burritos
06:30:36 <HackEgo> ln: target `wisdom/burritos' is not a directory
06:31:10 <b_jonas> ``` for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv wisdom/burrito wisdom/$x; done
06:31:13 <HackEgo> `wisdom/burritto' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/burito' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/buritto' -> `wisdom/burrito' \ `wisdom/burritos' -> `wisdom/burrito'
06:31:39 <HackEgo> Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:31:53 <b_jonas> ``` for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv burrito wisdom/$x; done
06:31:54 <HackEgo> ln: accessing `wisdom/burritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/burito': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/buritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `wisdom/burritos': Not a directory
06:32:24 <b_jonas> ``` cd wisdom && for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do ln -sfv burrito $x; done
06:32:25 <HackEgo> ln: accessing `burritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `burito': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `buritto': Not a directory \ ln: accessing `burritos': Not a directory
06:32:50 <b_jonas> ``` cd wisdom && for x in burritto burito buritto burritos; do rm $x; ln -sv burrito $x; done
06:32:52 <HackEgo> `burritto' -> `burrito' \ `burito' -> `burrito' \ `buritto' -> `burrito' \ `burritos' -> `burrito'
06:33:02 <HackEgo> Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
06:35:02 <zzo38> That is what they say, but it make no sense to me. It has nothing to do with a burrito; it has to do with mathematics
06:37:43 <\oren\> I managed to get my moon-car back into orbit
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08:17:16 <izabera> https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/135/ what's a good way to solve this?
08:24:31 <shachaf> @google longest path graph
08:24:31 <lambdabot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem
08:25:45 <izabera> yeah but it's in the moderate section so i thought there was a faster way with some constraint
08:27:07 <Hoolootwo> the constraint is that there aren't too many words
08:27:35 <izabera> 35 words is way beyond what i can do in their 10s timeout
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09:21:01 <izabera> http://www.javafind.net/gate.jsp?q=/library/36/java6_full_apidocs/com/sun/java/swing/plaf/nimbus/InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState.html
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10:27:26 <Vorpal> izabera: that is one hell of a class name
10:28:18 <izabera> makes me hope that eclipse and netbeans have really smart autocompletion
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13:58:19 <FireFly> I hope that is an auto-generated class name
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13:59:00 <rdococ> that must be one name in the class to type manually
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15:01:54 <lambdabot> CYUL 271400Z 18010KT 30SM OVC040 M07/M12 A2993 RMK SC8 SLP140
15:02:18 <boily> pretty short and sweet today. that only means it's going to get apocalyptic soon.
15:02:25 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 17h 17m 26s ago: shachaf needs a mapoling hth
15:02:25 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 15h 41m 43s ago: <boily> hppavilion[1]: as long as it features ¨ on egregious glyphs, and that multiocular O. <-- ¨ on multiocular O, check
15:02:25 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 15h 34m 35s ago: MWꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈Hꙮ̈
15:03:11 * ais523 wonders which glyphs are egregious
15:03:28 <boily> @ask oerjan what for? not that it's necessary for mapoling shachaf, but it's a nice to have >:D
15:03:47 <boily> @tell oerjan GHAAAAAAAAH! that is one evil laugh.
15:04:04 <boily> his523. prominent, salient, and uncouth glyphs?
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15:11:37 <lambdabot> boily asked 8m 9s ago: what for? not that it's necessary for mapoling shachaf, but it's a nice to have >:D
15:11:37 <lambdabot> boily said 7m 49s ago: GHAAAAAAAAH! that is one evil laugh.
15:12:18 <oerjan> boily: it was a pun, which i've forgotten... let's see.
15:14:37 <oerjan> boily: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2016-02-25#214426shachaf
15:15:59 * boily mapoles shachaf some more, because it's good for one's health
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15:44:43 <oerjan> `` diff wisdom/burrito{,s}
15:45:08 <oerjan> `` diff wisdom/burrito{,s}
15:45:44 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas you don't need to have separate wisdom entries for plurals just adding -s hth
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15:47:26 <HackEgo> Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/
15:48:15 <boily> besides, the plural of burrito is burriten.
15:48:28 <oerjan> mexicans _may_ disagree.
15:48:39 <oerjan> (what language does such a thing)
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16:04:23 <impomatic> Grrrr... I've been trying to check a few early Prisoner's Dilemma papers and every time I hit a paywall :-(
16:06:01 <impomatic> Thanks lambdabot for bringing a message from 1y 7m 17d 16h 24m 2s ago to my attention!
16:07:44 <myname> i never get why to @tell people that aren't even offline
16:08:26 <oerjan> myname: lots of people idle in the channel without being physically there.
16:08:57 <myname> if i am online i can read the backlog or the logfile
16:09:12 <oerjan> _you_ can. i don't trust everyone's setup to be reasonable.
16:10:38 <HackEgo> boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department.
16:11:27 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/^/"Only sane man" /' wisdom/boily
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20:35:08 <prooftechnique> \oren\: Ⓚ claims to be ⓚ when I Ctrl-F for it, but it doesn't actually show up for that codepoint
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20:46:34 <prooftechnique> I suppose there's an argument to be made for the 🅝🅔🅖🅐🅣🅘🅥🅔 🅞🅝🅔🅢, too
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22:30:09 <oerjan> is there a freenode dos'ing going on
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22:34:37 <oerjan> definitely not looking healthy, there
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22:35:34 <oerjan> (and i didn't get on my normal server. twice, although that was due to irc.freenode.net somehow deciding to resolve to the same server.)
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22:47:38 <oerjan> quintopia: as is glogbot, though clog seems to live somewhere else or maybe have died entirely
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22:48:22 <oerjan> neither of us is on the same server.
22:49:00 <oerjan> we're all in europe, if that matters.
22:49:25 <Phantom_Hoover> atriq, your underwater hockey team are a pack of conniving bastards btw
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22:51:03 <oerjan> hm and now i cannot reach you.
22:51:04 <HackEgo> [U+1D584 MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR CAPITAL Y] [U+1D594 MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR SMALL O] [U+1D59A MATHEMATICAL BOLD FRAKTUR SMALL U]
22:52:30 <HackEgo> [U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS]
22:52:37 <shachaf> oerjan: Where do I file a complain if I have reason to believe I've been overly mapoled?
22:52:38 <oerjan> CTCP PING reply from quintopia: 75.925 seconds
22:53:12 <tswett> `complain The floors are cold.
22:53:17 <HackEgo> Complaint filed. Thank you.
22:53:34 <oerjan> shachaf: well first you should complain to boily. if he disagrees you may choose to refer the matter to join #esoteric canadian committee.
22:53:59 <oerjan> how in the world does my brain manage to mistype that
22:54:02 <tswett> Don't be ridiculous. Refer it to the joint #esoteric American committee.
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22:54:29 <tswett> If that doesn't work, refer it to the British, then the French, then the Russian, then the Chinese.
22:54:32 <oerjan> tswett: Americans have no jurisdiction over mapoles, sheesh
22:54:45 <tswett> This is a matter of international concern.
22:54:54 <tswett> It must be resolved in an international manner.
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22:55:29 <shachaf> I hear the new prime minister is going to form a joint committee.
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22:56:39 <oerjan> shachaf: is this a drug joke
22:57:01 <tswett> `learn Drugs are no joke.
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22:57:05 <HackEgo> Learned 'drug': Drugs are no joke.
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22:57:48 <shachaf> oerjan: hopefully i don't get mapoled for it
22:58:07 <HackEgo> Learned 'joke': Jokes are no drug.
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23:04:41 <tswett> `le/rn fire/Fire, fire, everywhere, nor any drop to drink.
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23:07:41 <HackEgo> Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
23:08:12 <tswett> `run tail -n 200 wisdom/delve
23:08:13 <HackEgo> Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
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23:08:48 <tswett> `run tail -c 200 wisdom/delve
23:08:49 <HackEgo> xile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is determined.
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23:09:52 <tswett> `run sed -e 's/“/"/g' < wisdom/delve > wisdom/delve
23:09:57 <tswett> NB: I don't know how sed works.
23:10:18 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
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23:20:20 <HackEgo> Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
23:20:49 <oerjan> tswett: you don't need to know sed, just shell, to know that piping both from and to a file doesn't work.
23:22:53 <oerjan> `` sed 's/“|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
23:22:59 <HackEgo> Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. “Delve” means “For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana.” The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve
23:23:12 <oerjan> `` sed 's/“\|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
23:23:12 <HackEgo> Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. "Delve" means "For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana." The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is dete
23:23:20 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/“\|”/"/g' wisdom/delve #testing first
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23:30:31 <hppavilion[1]> An internet calculus still seems like a good idea, somehow...
23:30:37 <zzo38> What is the proper way to convert a picture using XInitImage and XPutImage?
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