00:00:17 <hppavilion[1]> I WOULD like to see a logographic system for English. THAT would be a fun way to mess with people.
00:02:42 <pikhq> "Kanji work for you? I think so."
00:03:02 <shachaf> see http://www.zompist.com/yingzi/yingzi.htm hth
00:04:14 <hppavilion[1]> (There would certainly have to be calligraphic variants on logical symbols- ∧ and ∨)
00:06:11 <oerjan> `sled bin/randbin//s/wise/binary/
00:06:13 <HackEgo> bin/randbin//f=$(find bin -ipath "bin/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); if [ -n "$f" ]; then echo -n "${f#bin/}//"; grep '' "$f"; else echo "That's not binary."; fi | rnooodl
00:07:51 <HackEgo> rnooooodl//perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'
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00:11:09 <HackEgo> ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው።
00:11:40 <oerjan> `` grep '' wisdom/* | grep Binary
00:11:48 <HackEgo> grep: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ Binary file wisdom/canary matches \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches
00:11:59 <oerjan> `` rgrep '' wisdom/* | grep Binary
00:12:01 <HackEgo> Binary file wisdom/canary matches \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches
00:12:14 <HackEgo> âELF...........>.....H@.....@.......p¶..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø................. ...8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....¦......¦........ ............°......°a.....°a.....Ì......P........ ...........È......Èa.....Èa........................ ..
00:12:35 <oerjan> `` ls -l wisdom/canary
00:12:36 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Dec 9 2015 wisdom/canary -> ../canary
00:12:52 <HackEgo> <moonythedwar̈f> ` mv ls canary \ <oerjän> revert \ <oerjän> sled canary//crabbit \ <fizzïe> revert 942e964c81c1 \ <evilips̈e> ` chmod 777 / -R \ <int-̈e> ` echo -n ribbit > canary \ <b_jonäs> `` echo -n > canary \ <b_jonäs> `` rm canary && mkdir canary \ <shachäf> mk canary//cat: canary: No such file or directory \ <shachäf> rm
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00:13:03 <HackEgo> 2016-10-05 <moonythedwar̈f> ` mv ls canary \ 2016-09-26 <oerjän> revert \ 2016-09-26 <oerjän> sled canary//crabbit \ 2016-09-25 <fizzïe> revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 <evilips̈e> ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-08-02 <int-̈e> ` echo -n ribbit > canary \ 2016-06-07 <b_jonäs> `` echo -n > canary \ 2016-06-07 <b_jonäs> `` rm canary && mkdir ca
00:13:23 <HackEgo> 2016-10-05 <moonythedwar̈f> ` mv ls canary \ 2016-07-02 <izaber̈a> ` dd bs=1 seek=7 conv=notrunc count=1 of=ls 2>/dev/null <<< $\'\\3\'; file ls \ 2016-07-02 <izaber̈a> ` cp /bin/ls .; file ls
00:17:51 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ <\oren\> srsly how do it work <-- edit distance <=2 with unambiguous closest match, or exact prefix hth
00:23:10 <HackEgo> [U+0391 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ALPHA]
00:30:16 <oerjan> `` loudly testing | orenbow <<<"testing"
00:30:17 <HackEgo> close failed in file object destructor: \ sys.excepthook is missing \ lost sys.stderr \ [1m[31mt[33me[32ms[36mt[34mi[35mn[31mg[33m
00:30:36 <oerjan> how is that even going to work
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00:30:50 <oerjan> `` loudly testing | orenbow.raw testing
00:30:51 <HackEgo> [1m[31m[33m0[32m4[36m,[34m0[35m9[31mt[33m[32m0[36m9[34m,[35m0[31m4[33me[32m[36m0[34m4[35m,[31m0[33m9[32ms[36m[34m0[35m9[31m,[33m0[32m4[36mt[34m[35m0[31m4[33m,[32m0[36m9[34mi[35m[31m0[33m9[32m,[36m0[34m4[35mn[31m[33m0[32m4[36m,[34m0[35m9[31mg[33m
00:31:09 <HackEgo> print_args_or_input "$@" | orenbow.raw
00:31:44 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ you may have missed that i changed your bin/orenbow earlier.
00:32:22 <HackEgo> lifthrasiir's font//lifthrasiir's font is https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png
00:33:19 <oerjan> `` loudly testing | orenbow.raw <<<'testing'
00:33:20 <HackEgo> [1m[31mt[33me[32ms[36mt[34mi[35mn[31mg[33m
00:34:32 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ although i still don't see how your experiments could work.
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00:37:22 <oerjan> `learn The Procrasti were an ancient people whose nation would have been a great empire if they'd ever got around to it.
00:37:24 <HackEgo> Learned 'procrasti': The Procrasti were an ancient people whose nation would have been a great empire if they'd ever got around to it.
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00:41:10 <hppavilion[1]> Proposal: NoSpacesNoPuntuationCapitalizeWords shall be referred to as "Bactrian CamelCase" in speech, noSpacesNoPuntuationCapitalizeNoninitialWords is "Dromedary camelCase"
00:41:50 <oerjan> seeing int-e reinvent hppavilion[1]'s rhymes in the log because he only sees \oren\'s...
00:43:33 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: No, in Norwegian <-- Bruk Krafta, Luke!
00:43:49 <oerjan> (alas, norwegians aren't big on dubbing.)
00:44:15 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Star wars dubs fairly well, due to half of the characters lacking mouths
00:44:45 <oerjan> Eg hev ei dårlig kjensle om dette...
00:46:11 <oerjan> (nynorsk is a bit different)
00:46:32 <oerjan> NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI
00:49:09 <FireFly> You're in Trondheim, yes? so bokmål should be your native kind of norwegian?
00:49:21 <FireFly> IIRC nynorsk is mostly in the southwestern parts
00:49:26 <oerjan> well i'm not _from_ trondheim but still yes.
00:49:35 <FireFly> Right, but I don't know where you're from :p
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00:53:18 <oerjan> Du finn aldri eit verre bol av avskum og ondskap. Vi må vere varsame.
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00:54:25 <oerjan> (curiously nynorsk is often closer to swedish than bokmål is)
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01:54:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49955&oldid=49952 * BlueOkiris * (-152) /* Op Codes */
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02:16:36 <hppavilion[1]> I love how Multivac is an uber-advanced computer that figured out how to build a Dyson Sphere
02:19:04 <hppavilion[1]> You can have RAID, you can have Recursive RAID (not an example of RAS Syndrome, aamof), you can have Doubly-Recursive RAID
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02:24:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49956&oldid=49955 * BlueOkiris * (-26) /* Interpreter/Compiler */
02:29:04 <hppavilion[1]> `learn A restaurant is a type of transactional resource-distributing system powered by lazy evaluation.
02:29:06 <HackEgo> Learned 'restaurant': A restaurant is a type of transactional resource-distributing system powered by lazy evaluation.
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02:39:58 <oerjan> `learn i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and want to distract myself by saying"
02:40:00 <HackEgo> Relearned 'i,i': i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and want to distract myself by saying"
02:40:47 <oerjan> `learn i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and want to distract myself by saying".
02:40:49 <HackEgo> Relearned 'i,i': i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and want to distract myself by saying".
02:41:42 <oerjan> `learn i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and I want to distract myself by saying".
02:41:44 <HackEgo> Relearned 'i,i': i,i is short for "I have wasps in my underwear, and I want to distract myself by saying".
02:45:49 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> Are gender-specific middle names typically tied to the person's gender? <-- maria is an exception in some catholic countries.
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02:54:31 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_(given_name)#As_male_middle_name
03:09:52 <fizzie> shachaf: I had this training thing.
03:10:09 <fizzie> I'm still in CA but not MTV.
03:10:33 <fizzie> I don't know, I can see the ocean.
03:10:45 <fizzie> Something starting with P.
03:11:42 <fizzie> That's confidential, I think.
03:12:10 <fizzie> I'm getting back to MTV in an hour though.
03:12:45 <shachaf> Are we doing this #esoteric meeting thing?
03:12:59 <shachaf> pikhq is in CO unfortunately.
03:13:23 <pikhq> I'm quite liking it here, though!
03:14:03 <shachaf> pikhq enjoys the absence of fizzie.
03:14:14 <fizzie> I'm not sure I have the energy for that sort of thing, at least today. It's been a long day. And I'm flying back tomorrow.
03:14:52 <shachaf> You're only in CA for two days?
03:16:16 <fizzie> Was jetlagged Monday, team dinner Tuesday, and here in Pescadero yesterday and today.
03:17:24 <fizzie> And now I need to catch a bus.
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04:26:01 <hppavilion[1]> Oh my god spanish 'j' is the velar fricative [x], not the glottal fricative [h]. I've been lied to all these years.
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05:51:06 <fizzie> TIL: the proper way to describe flying back from a different airport than you flew in to is to say the journey includes a "surface sector".
05:53:14 <\oren\> I once flew into haneda and out by narita
05:53:35 <\oren\> becuase that was cheaper for some reason
05:53:51 <shachaf> fizzie: isn't #trains a better channel for that hth
05:54:38 <fizzie> But it's a plane, not a train.
05:55:02 <fizzie> I had something to say about trains the other day, but I forget what it was.s
05:55:15 <\oren\> fizzie: what if you take a flight to one city, a train to another, and then a fight back?
05:55:48 <fizzie> I did in fact take the BART + Caltrain combo to get here from the first airport.
05:57:36 <\oren\> e.g., what if I fly to london, take a train to warsaw, and fly back?
05:57:52 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Will you be making a pact while you're there?
05:58:02 <\oren\> er, I guess that would take several trains
05:58:54 <fizzie> You will probably need at least three trains.
05:59:11 <pikhq> Unless the dirty communists built a secret tunnel to London.
06:02:03 <fizzie> We once took a single train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam.
06:02:23 <fizzie> It's a three-country train, which I think is p. nice.
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06:07:11 <fizzie> Huh, does that train no longer exit? That's scow if so.
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06:23:58 <shachaf> copumpkin: how's the jailbreak doing?
06:44:09 <hppavilion[1]> Henceforth, temperatures shall be given in radians.
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08:20:26 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Wait, no, this feels more Minsky because of ?options, so it's technically impossible )
08:29:03 <imode> welp. apparently the great barrier reef is dead.
08:37:10 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: In Chrome's case, it's just "have there been more than 20 redirects".
08:37:35 <fizzie> The comment says "Same number as gecko", so Firefox may do the same.
08:41:16 <imode> http://www.outsideonline.com/2112086/obituary-great-barrier-reef-25-million-bc-2016
08:41:24 <imode> take it with a grain of salt.
08:41:35 <imode> have a feeling it's just a call to action.
08:42:13 <imode> it definitely reads like one.
08:43:52 <imode> not me, I ain't buyin' a ticket.
08:44:01 * imode hurls a drumset off a ledge.
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08:48:51 <imode> it's gif, not jif.
08:51:06 <hppavilion[1]> izalove: But we can all agree it's 't. x. t.', I hope?
08:51:35 <hppavilion[1]> (I've never HEARD anyone say .[tɛkst], but you never know...)
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08:52:01 <hppavilion[1]> Though, really, the pronunciation I use when discussing format (not as an extension) is actually "G. I. F."
08:52:17 <b_jonas> \oren\: nah, that doesn't compress well and also can't represent paletted images or images with 16 bit per channel per pixel depth
08:53:07 <shachaf> gif with a g is the good pronunciation hth
08:53:07 <hppavilion[1]> Like "FBI", "CIA", and "NSA', not like "NASA", "NATO", or "IRS"
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08:53:57 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: wait, isn't IRS pronounces ai arr ess?
08:54:15 <hppavilion[1]> But really, I like [ʒɪf] because it sounds all french and snobby; you can correct people when they say [dʒɪf] thinking it's the same
08:55:51 <hppavilion[1]> (You know what? Maybe we should declare 'gsf' for 'graphic sequence format' to be a synonym- preferred- for 'gif' and end this terrible, terrible war)
08:56:00 <shachaf> \oren\: i was talking about the second g in gigantic, of course
08:56:15 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
08:56:24 <\oren\> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
08:56:34 <lifthrasiir> hppavilion[1]: how about an image format aka aif?
08:57:03 <\oren\> I have the repeat rate on my keyboard set high so I can wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww really fast
08:57:10 <hppavilion[1]> But now that I've said it, I kind of want to start calling jpg [jeɪpɛg]
08:57:53 <shachaf> the group of experts in joint photography
08:58:02 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: ... that's how I've always said it. what crazy way have you been doing
08:59:06 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: [dʒeɪpɛg], like the english letter j [dʒeɪ]
09:00:48 <\oren\> trolololo lololo lololo
09:01:15 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: ...I kind of guessed that 'oren' was a Norwegian name for some reason. Association with 'oerjan' probably.
09:02:14 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: no, I'm mostly slavic on one side and vaguely canadian on the other
09:03:04 <\oren\> as in, my dad is descended from some of the first european people to settle in canada
09:03:05 <hppavilion[1]> (dammit, rtl. I tried to paste it and nothing appeared... because it was on the opposite side)
09:03:47 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: It means 'ash' or 'pine', so you could also just be æ (ash) :P
09:04:57 <\oren\> note that although my birth certificate says Oren, i sometimes arbitrarily spell it orin
09:05:28 <\oren\> it's a good idea to misspell your name a lot to throw the illuminati off your trail
09:05:41 <shachaf> I would prefer that you did that more.
09:05:49 <hppavilion[1]> According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oren, it's somehow associated with the name "Shahaf" in a way I cannot deduce
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09:06:56 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: I think that's just a copypaste induced error on wikipedia
09:07:30 <shachaf> I cannot deduce it either.
09:09:23 <\oren\> I should do more arbitrary mispellings. judging by census records, my ancestors were either doing it on purpose or largely illiterate. or both.
09:09:52 <\oren\> at least seven different spellings occur in the same census year
09:11:05 <\oren\> everything from clemens to mccllements
09:12:21 <shachaf> \oren\: that's a bug and you should fix it twh
09:12:33 <shachaf> it's obviously just copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahaf
09:15:10 <\oren\> and of course there are obvious lies on the census implying a kid aged from 2 to 19 in 10 years, and implying 140 year old people etc
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09:16:32 <\oren\> I could chalk it down to them being dumb or I could assume we have a long history of fighting the globalist conspiracy
09:19:09 <\oren\> argh I hate it when I get a bunch of stupid videos in my youtube recommendations and have to click "not interested" on all of them
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09:58:32 <b_jonas> hpp: wait what? why does lead vs tin even matter? they differ in that tin is more fragile vs lead is more ductile, but as a hat shielding you from the stereotypical brain control waves, that doesn't matter too much. if anything, it's the thickness that matters.
09:58:51 <b_jonas> I mean, lead is a bit more dense, so maybe that helps, but it's not such a big difference, is it?
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12:27:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Slnetaiga * moved [[Fpulse]] to [[Fpulse/]]: Special move
12:29:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49959&oldid=49957 * Slnetaiga * (+1755) Added operands list
12:30:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49960&oldid=49959 * Slnetaiga * (-2)
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12:37:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49962&oldid=49961 * Slnetaiga * (+0)
12:47:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49963&oldid=49962 * Slnetaiga * (+4)
12:51:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49964&oldid=49963 * Slnetaiga * (+542) Added analogs of operands in brainfuck
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16:38:15 <oerjan> `addquote <hppavilion[1]> THEY MADE A MOVIE ABOUT THE 50 SHADES SEQUEL TOO! <hppavilion[1]> Somebody shall pay for this <imode> not me, I ain't buyin' a ticket.
16:38:24 <HackEgo> 1292) <hppavilion[1]> THEY MADE A MOVIE ABOUT THE 50 SHADES SEQUEL TOO! <hppavilion[1]> Somebody shall pay for this <imode> not me, I ain't buyin' a ticket.
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16:52:51 <oerjan> <\oren\> gif is git with a f <-- * silently corrects "git" pronunciation
16:53:26 <int-e> oerjan: wait, how do you pronounce "gif"?
16:54:30 <oerjan> int-e: sorry, i was confusing \oren\ and hppavilion[1] in the logs
16:54:43 <int-e> (the GIF g is for "graphics" so it should be pronounced as in "go"?)
16:54:48 <oerjan> i pronounce it with hard g
16:55:18 <oerjan> but the entire discussion started because hppavilion[1] blathered about it being soft
16:56:01 <int-e> okay. I didn't see that :P
16:56:09 <oerjan> (btw do you see the lines where i mention him? also there was a hilarious part in yesterday's logs where you were repeating his rhymes)
16:56:47 <int-e> I see mentions, yes.
17:03:07 <oerjan> hm looks like i'll have to correct "gigantic"
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17:20:39 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: I think that's just a copypaste induced error on wikipedia <-- actually that infobox was created by a trolling sockpuppet (who also went by the nick Shahafvg). other edits by em were reverted, but not the whole box.
17:24:22 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ The original version said it was a feminine name :P https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oren&diff=647274973&oldid=646400067
17:25:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49965&oldid=49956 * BlueOkiris * (+1570) /* Example Programs */
17:26:19 <oerjan> that person also created the wikipedia page for Shahaf
17:27:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49966&oldid=49899 * BlueOkiris * (+1582)
17:27:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49967&oldid=49966 * BlueOkiris * (-255) /* NOR */
17:27:53 <oerjan> shachaf: they're disgracing your name tdnh
17:29:07 <oerjan> tl;dr: you can find out a _lot_ by bisecting wikipedia history pages.
17:30:49 <oerjan> (it's easier if you skip the obvious vandalism edits)
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17:34:39 <shachaf> oerjan: wait, correct "gigantic" from what to what
17:35:28 <oerjan> i used to think the initial g was hard hth
17:36:18 <oerjan> (now i'm getting dejá vu. maybe i've corrected it before.)
17:36:51 <int-e> great, now I have the phrase "oerjan the [g]entleman" stuck in my head.
17:37:03 <int-e> maybe it'll subside with sharing.
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17:39:12 <int-e> in fact that would solve all my problems...
17:39:28 <oerjan> i don't recall ever pronouncing gentleman with a hard g. it's one of those words one actually gets to hear aloud.
17:40:09 <int-e> and quite possibly before you even start learning English.
17:42:26 <oerjan> how did 18WAAGAMT get a nick starting with a digit
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17:43:23 <oerjan> Bowserinator: that's not actually an answer tdnh
17:44:42 <oerjan> those happen on freenode?
17:44:57 <oerjan> there wasn't even a netsplit going on...
17:45:10 <18WAAGAMT> oerjan: you log into 2 different servers, then you do /anick <random nick>
17:45:26 <18WAAGAMT> (anick is used to change nicks on all servers you are connected to in hexchat)
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17:46:56 <oerjan> oh i see. you probably did /anick Bowserinator
17:47:27 <oerjan> that would just have been blocked
17:48:09 <oerjan> i guess the other colliding login isn't on this channel, then.
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17:55:52 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] * hppavilion[1] obtains lead foil hat, as tinfoil will not be strong enough <-- you need to go heavier. plutonium foil is where it's at.
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17:58:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49968&oldid=49964 * Slnetaiga * (+100)
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17:59:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fpulse/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49969&oldid=49968 * Slnetaiga * (+110)
18:00:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[NOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49970&oldid=49965 * BlueOkiris * (+111) /* 1bit Adder.nor */
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18:06:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Fpulse/]] to [[F-PULSE]]: Incorrect name
18:08:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Slnetaiga]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49973 * Oerjan * (+233) Moved your page
18:09:20 <\oren\> wow I can't have 9oren9
18:10:21 <\oren\> oerjan: plutonium foil is also useful because if you crumple your hat into a ball and throw it you can take the entire city you're in with you
18:11:09 <oerjan> \oren\: i'm afraid plutonium doesn't work that way, you need uranium.
18:11:29 <oerjan> (plutonium needs very precise implosion arrangement)
18:11:43 <\oren\> oerjan: no it's the oter way around
18:11:52 <\oren\> uranium needs implosion
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18:12:05 <oerjan> i am quite sure you remember incorrectly.
18:12:47 <oerjan> the uranium isotope is harder to produce but easier to use.
18:13:19 <\oren\> hmm, maybe you're right
18:14:01 <Taneb> Might it depend on the isotope of Uranium?
18:14:08 <Taneb> U-235 vs U-238 etc
18:14:27 <\oren\> there are actual suppliers of uranium foil
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18:16:54 <oerjan> Taneb: there's only one uranium isotope that can blow up at all.
18:17:12 <Taneb> Oh, I did not know that
18:17:49 <oerjan> that's what makes it hard to produce, they cannot be separated just chemically.
18:19:39 <pikhq> They can only be seperated by exploiting their different masses, and their masses are very close.
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18:30:51 <oerjan> <ybden> Where have I seen that command before... <-- both fungot and HackEgo have it too
18:31:06 <oerjan> i think HackEgo may have two versions
18:31:08 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bot: not found
18:31:11 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: snack: not found
18:31:27 <ybden> `` find -name '*snack*'
18:31:34 <ybden> `` find -name '*bot*'
18:31:44 <oerjan> fungoooooooooooooooooooot
18:31:44 <HackEgo> ./bin/botsnack \ ./.hg/store/data/lambdabot.i \ ./.hg/store/data/a/d/_d_c_p_u_tool_bot-master \ ./.hg/store/data/a/d/_d_c_p_u_tool_bot-master/dcpubot.py.i \ ./.hg/store/data/lambdabotloop.i \ ./.hg/store/data/egobot.tar.xz.d \ ./.hg/store/data/d/_d_c_p_u_tool_bot-master \ ./.hg/store/data/d/_d_c_p_u_tool_bot-master/dcpubot.py.i \ ./.hg/store/dat
18:31:44 <HackEgo> ./bin/snackego \ ./bin/botsnack \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/botsnack.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/buttsnack.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/snackego.i
18:31:58 <ybden> snackego? buttsnack?
18:32:02 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: buttsnack: not found
18:32:21 <oerjan> i think i eviscerated the butt version.
18:32:39 <oerjan> `` find -name '*snack*' bin
18:32:39 <HackEgo> find: paths must precede expression: bin \ Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
18:32:43 <ybden> Apparently the bot in a (the) nethack channel from days gone had a !botsnack
18:32:47 <oerjan> `` find bin -name '*snack*'
18:32:48 <HackEgo> bin/snackego \ bin/botsnack
18:33:01 <ybden> `cat .hg/store/data/bin/buttsnack.i
18:33:02 <HackEgo> â....................ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ:0ª;°!=3IJ_!^Óx@............uecho '#!/bin/sh' \ ............. \ ......®....ÿÿÿÿÌT#½¿È.͸åÀp_ÉÀ¨Y÷............u#!/bin/sh \ ...................¯....ÿÿÿÿ-em§d5Rr²j°%¯Þ............... \ ... \ ...echo 'ewww' \ .....5...............³ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿäçÓ7U@qN.Ê= ÇßtF«¼............
18:34:25 <oerjan> i guess he may be on a plane or something.
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18:37:14 <oerjan> ybden: .hg is the mercury repository HackEgo uses for version control btw
18:37:17 <shachaf> \oren\: whoa whoa whoa, the canadian TFSA is TG
18:37:48 <shachaf> oerjan: have you made any nuclear weapons tdnh
18:38:13 <ybden> I was assuming that the file there would contain at least some of the source of it, before it was removed
18:38:21 <ybden> Since it was in revision control
18:38:27 <HackEgo> lastfiles "$@" | while read f; do echo -n "$f//"; hg cat -r "$(hg log --removed --template '{rev}\n' "$f" | tail -n+2 | head -n1)" "$f"; done
18:38:36 <HackEgo> hg log --removed -l 1 --template "{files}\n" -- "$@"
18:38:39 <ybden> `before bin/buttsnack
18:38:42 <HackEgo> bin/buttsnack//#!/bin/sh \ echo 'ewww'
18:38:59 <ybden> (I also evidently didn't know about these commands)
18:39:11 <HackEgo> shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them.
18:39:21 <ybden> `lastfiles bin/buttsnack
18:39:45 <shachaf> `slwd shaventions//s#/#/now/#
18:40:01 <shachaf> `slwd shavention//s#/#/now/#
18:40:03 <HackEgo> wisdom/shavention//shaventions include: before/now/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them.
18:40:13 <HackEgo> lastfiles "$@" | while read f; do echo -n "$f//"; cat "$f"; done
18:40:32 <shachaf> ybden: roswbud is citizwn kanw's slwd hth
18:41:23 <shachaf> roswbud is a plot devicw in citizwn kanw
18:41:25 <ybden> I am not familiar with this.
18:41:45 <ybden> It appwars to bw a rwd slwd
18:42:08 <shachaf> i believe it was black and white hth
18:42:12 <HackEgo> wisdom/shavention//shaventions include: before/now/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them.
18:42:31 <HackEgo> wisdom/shavention//shaventions include: before/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1. Taneb invented them.
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18:43:47 <HackEgo> 2/8:hiswørk \ wisdom/dowry \ wisdom/dwfo \ wisdom/dynamic-unwind \ wisdom/dynamic-wind \ wisdom/eyebrow \ wisdom/flower \ wisdom/frozen water \ wisdom/holy water \ wisdom/iwc \ wisdom/jwinslow23 \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/markdown \ wisdom/middle worse \ wisdom/muphrys law \ wisdom/
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18:44:03 <HackEgo> 1/1:As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead.
18:44:10 <HackEgo> 1/5:arrow \ a test word \ atwp \ backward \ bardsworthlist \ bookwatching \ bowser \ browser \ btw \ busy beaver growth \ copower \ cow \ dark water \ deewiant \ delaware \ doesthiswork \ døsthiswork \ døsthiswørk \ dowry \ dwfo \ dynamic-unwind \ dynamic-wind \ eyebrow \ flower \ frozen water \ holy water \ iwc \ jwinslow23 \ ll
18:44:24 <HackEgo> 2/5:anfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ markdown \ middle worse \ muphrys law \ mustard watch \ newline \ norway \ off by two \ overworld \ password \ pawn \ people who taneb is not \ programmers knowing what they're doing \ rainbow \ real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download \ rincewind \ roboros
18:44:29 <shachaf> This is probably too much spam. :-(
18:44:40 <shachaf> `? programmers knowing what they're doing
18:44:41 <HackEgo> Programmers knowing what they're doing is a hypothetical alien race invoked to justify keeping horrendous traps in programming languages.
18:44:50 <shachaf> `? people who taneb is not
18:44:51 <HackEgo> elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond
18:44:56 <shachaf> oerjan: i don't want to leave an hg record hth
18:45:30 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/spout
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18:46:02 <shachaf> i didn't think that would work
18:46:27 <shachaf> enjoying the sunny california weather?
18:46:28 <oerjan> shachaf: wait, did it or not?
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18:47:04 <fizzie> shachaf: The drizzly California weather.
18:47:10 <fizzie> I'm in an office, anyway.
18:47:16 <oerjan> the repo browser won't look in /hackenv/
18:47:27 <shachaf> Maybe fizzie knows a secret workaround?
18:48:09 <shachaf> `learn A spout is a scow's pout.
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18:49:10 <fizzie> I haven't read the context, but "not leaving any hg record" and "affecting the repo browser in any way" are probably almost entirely mutually exclusive.
18:49:20 <fizzie> (So far the only exception I know of was that permissions bug.)
18:49:34 <shachaf> fizzie: Do you know `spam?
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18:49:56 <shachaf> All I want is a way to look at `spam output in HTTP.
18:50:23 <oerjan> obviously you can do `spam in private :P
18:50:24 <fizzie> Is it long or not? If not, you can have it output as a data: base64 URL.
18:51:00 <oerjan> being long is sort of the point of it.
18:52:10 <oerjan> and this is for when it's even longer, so would flood the channel
18:53:33 <shachaf> fizzie: The spam programs run a command and put its output in a file which is hg-ignored.
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18:53:43 <shachaf> Then they print the output one line at a time, with `spam
18:53:54 <oerjan> . o O ( if the web proxy were working, couldn't you upload to a pastebin )
18:54:03 <HackEgo> 1/5:arrow \ a test word \ atwp \ backward \ bardsworthlist \ bookwatching \ bowser \ browser \ btw \ busy beaver growth \ copower \ cow \ dark water \ deewiant \ delaware \ doesthiswork \ døsthiswork \ døsthiswørk \ dowry \ dwfo \ dynamic-unwind \ dynamic-wind \ eyebrow \ flower \ frozen water \ holy water \ iwc \ jwinslow23 \ ll
18:54:07 <HackEgo> 2/5:anfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ markdown \ middle worse \ muphrys law \ mustard watch \ newline \ norway \ off by two \ overworld \ password \ pawn \ people who taneb is not \ programmers knowing what they're doing \ rainbow \ real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download \ rincewind \ roboros
18:54:11 <shachaf> fizzie: it's very useful hth
18:54:25 <shachaf> `? real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download
18:54:26 <HackEgo> Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is the most readable functional programming language out there.
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18:55:08 <oerjan> you can read it all day long
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19:00:06 <shachaf> oerjan is gone, time to spam
19:00:08 <HackEgo> 3/5:ewater \ rules of wisdom \ scow \ semmelweis \ slwd \ snow \ something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom \ star wars \ static-wind \ stephen wolfram \ supercalifragilisticexponential growth \ superduperexponential growth \ superexponential growth \ swatter \ sweden \ swedish \ taiwan \ tapeworm \ the neverending work \ the walrus \
19:00:11 <HackEgo> 4/5: thwackamacallit \ tswett \ twh \ twhib \ twitter \ twnh \ twoducks \ userweps \ uwe boll \ waltext2 \ war \ warning \ warranty \ warrigal \ wat \ watch \ water \ we \ wealhtheow \ weather \ webcarting \ wecome \ weetoflake \ wegian \ welcome \ welcome.bork \ welcome.de \ welcome.eo \ welcome.es \ welcome.fi \ welcome.fr \ welco
19:00:12 <HackEgo> 5/5:me.nl \ welcome.sv \ welp \ wercome \ west midlands \ wfraatw \ whatchamacallit \ who \ whom \ wiki \ wikipedia \ winter \ wisdom \ wisdome \ wisdom.pdf \ wisdoom \ wise \ wisest human \ wlcom \ wob_jonas \ wolfram \ women \ word \ works for me \ wtf \ wth \ wumpus \ www \ zimbabwe
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19:46:14 <fizzie> `` bash -c 'echo ${@:2:3}' -- foo bar baz quux zuul
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20:02:36 <lambdabot> oerjan said 2h 41m 56s ago: <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: I think that's just a copypaste induced error on wikipedia <-- actually that infobox was created by a trolling sockpuppet (who also went by the
20:02:36 <lambdabot> nick Shahafvg). other edits by em were reverted, but not the whole box.
20:02:36 <lambdabot> oerjan said 2h 38m 14s ago: The original version said it was a feminine name :P https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oren&diff=647274973&oldid=646400067
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20:24:19 <\oren\> Ok, the unifont guy now is claiming that compatibility with terminals has never been a goal of unifont.
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20:27:52 <\oren\> I've decided to forward my discussion back to the full mailing list for posterity. this is hilarious
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20:31:42 <\oren\> @tell b_jonas: unifont is apparently never intended to be used with "programs that expect a monospace font".
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20:35:41 <\oren\> @tell b_jonas: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/unifont/2016-10/msg00001.html
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20:48:05 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: on what OS?
20:48:46 <\oren\> while you're at it, install mintty
20:48:48 <hppavilion[1]> I found out because apparently the school's default gateway is receptive on port 22. WP says that's ssh, so I'm going to check if it's unsecure
20:49:30 <hppavilion[1]> (One of my friends is obsessed with cracking/hacking right now. He's impatient when I don't get admin control in under 2 minutes
20:49:59 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: no, for that you need to install nmap
20:50:42 <\oren\> it is your one-stop shop for vuln scanning
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20:53:15 <hppavilion[1]> It's literally just a multiprocessing module that checks every port on an IP in the given range by creating a connection and catching errors
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20:55:00 <\oren\> argh, that is super nooby
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20:58:19 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Yes. Now which nmap dist do I get for cygwin?
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21:10:07 <Taneb> Did you guys see the paper claiming to prove NP = PSPACE?
21:10:38 <Taneb> http://www.tecmf.inf.puc-rio.br/NPPSPACE
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21:20:12 <Taneb> Yesterday (or maybe today? I don't quite remember) I wrote a Haskell program that... really slows down between -O and -O0
21:21:11 <Taneb> > (log (8 * 60) / log 10)
21:21:24 <Taneb> > log (0.2) / log 10
21:21:36 <Taneb> by at least 3 orders of magnitude
21:21:49 <Taneb> (I gave up after 8 minutes when with -O it runs in 0.2 secodns
21:23:45 <Taneb> http://lpaste.net/2844046254428651520
21:23:58 <Taneb> It's a super naive program to list the primes less than 1000
21:31:43 <myname> i never heard of data.universe
21:32:17 <Taneb> myname, it's in the "universe" package
21:33:32 <Taneb> It's not often I have a case for using it
21:35:42 <myname> my "super naive program" would be like at most half as much code
21:36:25 <Taneb> myname, it came as a result of me playing with representations of partial orders
21:37:06 <Taneb> It was more "Listing primes is a cool thing I could do with this" than "This is a cool way to list primes", if that makes sense
21:38:40 <Taneb> > let primes = 2:[p | p <- [3..], not $ any (\q -> p `mod` q == 0) (takeWhile (\q -> q * q <= p) primes)] in takeWhile (<= 1000) primes
21:38:42 <lambdabot> [2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71,73,79,83,89,97,101,...
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21:42:12 <myname> where does devides gets its second argument on line 13?
21:43:46 <Taneb> myname, universeF :: [(Limited, Limited)] in that case
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22:22:19 <zzo38> QBASIC does not have a ceiling function but you can write -INT(-X) instead.
22:22:53 <pikhq> Cute. Negate, round down, negate. :)
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22:38:02 <myname> what's wrong with good old INT(X+0.5)?
22:38:44 <zzo38> That is good if you want round to nearest, I suppose
22:41:31 <HackEgo> The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation of words. It is incredibly useful, unless you need to pronounce a word.
22:41:48 <zzo38> What does flatular language mean?
22:42:30 <pikhq> Presumably a language that includes flatus as a phoneme or phonemes.
22:42:45 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: Language incorporating flatulence as a major feature
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23:13:09 <int-e> Taneb: I've wasted some time on that paper... the claim that \Gamma decreases (weakly) in "Conclusion 12" is, as far as I can see, wrong.
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23:33:34 <oerjan> /kick shachaf Spamming
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23:37:38 <int-e> Taneb: hmm somehow I found an earlier version of the paper...
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23:38:43 <oerjan> > 17:12 < dmhouse> It'll buzz me after a day's worth of not checking my messages. <-- huh i didn't know lambdabot would try again at all :P
23:38:45 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:52: error: parse error on input ‘of’
23:39:01 <izalove> that's what you get for greentexting on irc
23:39:17 <HackEgo> cat: bin/wfraatw: No such file or directory
23:39:22 <oerjan> izalove: well given that i'm actually copying from lambdabot code it seems appropriate.
23:39:23 <HackEgo> cat: bin/twhib: No such file or directory
23:39:28 <HackEgo> cat: bin/wisdoom: No such file or directory
23:39:35 <HackEgo> cat: bin/uwe boll: No such file or directory
23:39:41 <HackEgo> cat: bin/wealhtheow: No such file or directory
23:40:06 <izalove> shachaf: it means that the file you were looking for isn't there
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23:57:20 <hppavilion[1]> Is there a simple (and better than brute force) program to detect Fibonacci numbers and- optimally- return their index
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23:59:41 <hppavilion[1]> (e.g. isfib(3) = True, isfib(5) = True, isfib(4) = False; fibind(1) = 0, fibind(2) = 2, fibind(3) = 3, fibind(5) = 4, fibind(8) = 5 (note that the double-1 at the beginning is acknowledged, but 1 only has index 0)