00:23:23 <boily> weren't there five wisdoms? why are there only four now?
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00:49:30 <shachaf> Someone put in a scow wisdom entry for the five wisdoms, so I'm put off.
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00:49:41 <shachaf> Now I'm all about the four wisdoms.
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00:52:46 <oerjan> `le/rn the third wisdom//The third wisdom is that four equals five.
00:52:49 <HackEgo> Learned 'the third wisdom': The third wisdom is that four equals five.
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00:55:39 <boily> so there are both of them, all fouve.
01:04:10 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
01:05:35 <HackEgo> A spork is something to be randomly held in front of penguins.
01:06:18 <oerjan> even the booby-trapped ones?
01:06:35 <boily> moonheart08: you're toying with your life. are you certified?
01:09:29 * oerjan hides behind a rock in case moonheart08 explodes
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01:13:05 <int-e> shachaf: I shortened it
01:13:35 * moonheart08 explodes in rainbows from boobytrapped mapoles bcuz he can
01:14:05 <HackEgo> 10020:2016-12-24 <shachäf> ` chmod +x quines/haskell; sled "quines/haskell//s#^#echo \'#; s#\\$#\'#" \ 10019:2016-12-24 <shachäf> ` chmod +x quines/haskell; sled "quines/haskell//s#^#echo \'#; s#$#\'#" \ 10018:2016-12-24 <oerjän> ` chmod a-x quines/haskell \ 8602:2016-06-25 <int-̈e> ` ( echo \'main=putStr s>>print s;s="main=putStr s>>print s
01:14:34 <HackEgo> 2/2:Str s>>print s;s="\' ) > quines/haskell \ 8601:2016-06-25 <int-̈e> ` ( echo \'main=putStr s>>print s\'; echo \'s="main=putStr s>>print s\\ns="\' ) > quines/haskell \ 7913:2016-05-07 <shachäf> mkx quines/haskell//echo \'main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"\'
01:14:55 <shachaf> I see, you golfed the quine and got rid of the echo by accident.
01:15:45 <int-e> . o O ( why would a quine not be a quine anyway... meh )
01:15:56 <oerjan> let that be a lesson to use `mk hth
01:16:25 <int-e> oerjan: it's not due to mk... I didn't really expect the echo.
01:16:43 <int-e> also sleepy, good night
01:17:34 <shachaf> int-e: Well, classically there would be a GHC-compiled binary of the quine.
01:17:46 <shachaf> int-e: But GHC isn't available, so I compiled it to sh by hand.
01:17:56 <int-e> "golf" could be a plausible typo for "gold", or vice versa.
01:20:01 <oerjan> `learn Golf is the shortest game known. The goal is to get a ball into a hole with a single stroke.
01:20:05 <HackEgo> Learned 'golf': Golf is the shortest game known. The goal is to get a ball into a hole with a single stroke.
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03:41:04 <boily> he\\oren\, santahelloon.
03:42:38 <HackEgo> Hellonfused one. Porthellos are the standard greeting format in #esoteric. Best enjoyed with some thé or caffè and a fternooner.
03:43:12 <boily> a porthello is a hello portmanteau.
03:43:28 <HackEgo> Thé is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in the Commonwealth.
03:43:33 <HackEgo> Caffè is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in Italy.
03:43:36 <HackEgo> fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”, Icelandic „íðdegis“) is a screamingly delicious pastry.
03:46:01 <rdococ> I will now come up with an esoteric temperatur3 sc4le.
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03:54:02 <\oren\> rdococ: that should play merry hell with the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution.
03:55:46 <\oren\> what's the square root of i cubed?
04:00:26 <boily> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sqrt(i+%5E+3)
04:02:58 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Quantity Calculus (aka "Dimensional Analysis") has you measuring by multiply "Quantities" (aka "Dimensions") which are raised to integer or sometimes real powers.
04:03:24 <hppavilion[1]> Complex Quantity Calculus probably has a use somewhere in the universe
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04:46:54 <rdococ_> Now we should multiply the i coefficient by 39reif/
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05:27:03 <rdococ> internet connectivity issues
05:27:19 <rdococ> my internet strength is a sine wave
05:28:31 <rdococ> 100... then 0... then 100...
05:28:47 <rdococ> a sine wave + 0.5, basically.
05:42:55 <rdococ> of course, negative connectivity would mean that when I try to load a webpage, I lose information about that webpage rather than gain it.
05:43:18 <rdococ> negative information, however...
05:45:20 <rdococ> channuvilion[1], what do you think about negative information?
05:46:34 <rdococ> also... my internet is slower than 70% of GB
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05:54:25 <zgrep> rdococ: If I take a small piece of your brain, have I given you negative information?
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05:57:33 <rdococ> see, the more information there is, the more variety there is
06:04:26 <rdococ> the less info, the less possible kinds of info it could be
06:04:32 <rdococ> so negative info comes in negative varieties
06:14:14 <rdococ> is that negative info?
06:14:49 <pikhq_> "Kurisumasa" is a real weird way of Japanizing that.
06:15:14 <pikhq_> rdococ: Um, I guess negative information works in a thermodynamic sense, but...
06:16:01 <rdococ> imagine one bit of info.
06:16:26 <rdococ> two bits carry twice as much variation... three bits again, twice as much as before...
06:16:42 <rdococ> so 0 bits would carry 1 variation and -1 bits 0.5?
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06:30:13 <\oren\> メリー クリスマス ワン アンド オール!
06:38:47 <pikhq_> ウェル、 ユ シー、 イン ジャパン ゼイ シンプリー チェンジッド ザ フォンツ フォア イングリッシュ コンピュターズ ツー ハヴ ジャパニーズ テキスト イン ゼム。
06:42:02 <pikhq_> (Well, you see, in Japan they simply changed the fonts for English computers to have Japanese text in them.)
06:43:35 <pikhq_> Or if you prefer: weru, yu shii, in japan zei shinpurii chenjeddo za fontsu foa ingurisshu konpyutāzu tsuu havu japaniizu tekisuto in zemu.
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07:17:57 <Jafet> negative information is when a web page that was cached gets replaced by a domain parking page
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07:32:17 <rdococ> Imagine information as a range of switches
07:32:38 <rdococ> every switch multiplies the possible variations by 2
07:32:46 <rdococ> so for n bits you have 2^n info
07:33:17 <rdococ> thing is tho, in this system 1 info is no information since it's multiplicative
07:49:39 <izabera> pikhq_: tekisuto? not tekusuto?
07:49:58 <izabera> pikhq_: also why zei and zemu? i expected dei and demu
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08:11:03 <izabera> i just found out that this is an italian dessert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuppa_Inglese
08:11:09 <izabera> my whole life has been a lie
08:27:50 <rdococ> fun fact: my internet is slower than 70% of my country's internet
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09:24:12 <HackEgo> 314) <zzo38> I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand.
09:24:19 <HackEgo> 314) <zzo38> I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand.
09:24:28 <HackEgo> 197) <nddrylliog> are you always careful to have a small enough margin so that it can't contain the proof? <oklofok> nddrylliog: i usually use latex, and make sure my hd is almost full \ 810) <Fiora> omg <Fiora> that JIT is really amazing [...] <Gregor> I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can
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09:46:15 <kiki`> rdococ: k * v with k between 0 and 1
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10:38:49 <rdococ> it's clearly christmas
10:38:55 <rdococ> but it's an easy mistake for a programmer to make
10:39:11 <rdococ> because DEC 25 = OCT 31 :p
10:40:50 <rdococ> or in my favourite base, 25 = 12*2 + 1
10:42:06 <kiki`> rdococ: you don't want to tell me, you've been that witty like.. ad hoc, do you? :o never
10:42:48 <kiki`> is that a classic joke?
10:42:59 <Taneb> It was a joke I was making
10:43:11 <Taneb> But I got it from I think a Murderous Maths book
10:43:13 <rdococ> and I knew what Taneb was joking about
10:43:33 <rdococ> nah, Taneb didn't invent it (I don't think)
11:09:04 <shachaf> extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence hth
11:18:11 <myname> since christmas or halloween might involve sex, taneb couldn't have invented it
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11:41:57 <channuvilion[1]> myname: If we include Pagan christmas, it almost definitely involves sex
11:42:11 <channuvilion[1]> myname: Especially given that the trees are to honor Freya, Goddess of Fertility
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15:24:20 <oerjan> `addquote <izabera> i just found out that this is an italian dessert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuppa_Inglese <izabera> my whole life has been a lie
15:24:44 <HackEgo> 1303) <izabera> i just found out that this is an italian dessert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuppa_Inglese <izabera> my whole life has been a lie
15:26:08 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi
15:26:47 <HackEgo> 0:2012-02-16 Initïal import.
15:27:10 <HackEgo> 8c8 \ < else shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom -n 1; fi \ --- \ > else shuf -n 1; fi
15:27:48 <HackEgo> 9771:2016-11-24 <oerjän> sled bin/quote//s,shuf,shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom, \ 978:2012-12-09 <Gregör> revert \ 977:2012-12-09 <shachäf> cp bin/quote bin/realquote; echo -n $'#!/bin/sh\nsleep 1\nrealquote "$@"\n' > bin/quote \ 0:2012-02-16 Initïal import.
15:29:09 <oerjan> `` cp bin/quote{,s} # add rng improv
15:30:55 <HackEgo> f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom -z -n1); if [ -n "$f" ]; then echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//"; cat "$f"; else echo "That's not wise."; fi | rnooodl
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15:48:54 <boily> Joyeux Noësoteric!
15:51:45 <boily> fungot: merry christmas pis plein d'affaires de même toi aussi!
15:51:46 <fungot> boily: that is) it'd start to take pictures and upload them on scene.org, so as to work around chicken module quirks.
15:52:31 <fungot> int-e: i don't know the details yet, though, are people who have a pointer handy?
15:52:51 <int-e> fungot: what if they have a pitchfork?
15:52:52 <fungot> int-e: where do you get soft-porn from that anyway.) in the middle there's this " strong normalization" result. the result of comparing one of the first thing
15:52:55 * oerjan hands fungot a pointer ===/-
15:52:55 <fungot> oerjan: any progress with the change of centuries we would seize control of the compiler
15:53:17 * int-e wonders where fungot learned about ponr.
15:53:17 <oerjan> fungot: we changed century not that long ago, please be patient
15:53:18 <fungot> int-e: given what arcanities of english rules i make use of that new length.
15:53:18 <fungot> oerjan: four cups of tea from today is wearing off and dragging me down. like if you look for it, so if all i do is move files around, edit with emacs/ pico, and use erc when i need you
15:54:39 <int-e> fungot: I'm not sure that "arcane" is doing your abuse of the english grammar justice.
15:54:39 <fungot> int-e: there's the soft ending one or two arguments. but i like it. as soon as possible
15:55:17 <oerjan> strong normalization of soft porn, sounds scientific
15:55:51 <oerjan> fungot: oh right, i should get more caffeine
15:55:51 <fungot> oerjan: sounds like fun stuff. _ is a quine in a way
15:56:11 <boily> int-ello. I think fungot is misaligned with the Usual Dimensions of this Hapless Universe, releasing haphazard bursts of arcane energy across the Galaxy.
15:56:11 <fungot> boily: does anyone know whether r6rs is still planning to make them safe. also, it's /very/ frustrating to only be a penalty for creating a good irc server would make all this effort, already?
15:56:19 <oerjan> int-e: dost fungot arcaneth too much?
15:56:20 <fungot> oerjan: maybe one day we will. you can get plussa from nato membership fees.
15:56:31 <int-e> tea begets more tea, so it has quine-like properties
15:58:48 <oerjan> similar to afk, i think
15:58:51 <int-e> auto-focus comes to mind
15:59:19 <int-e> . o O ( autofocus is mechanized obsession built into cameras )
15:59:39 <oerjan> `learn Adjectives are words frequently found attached to chickens.
15:59:43 <HackEgo> Learned 'adjective': Adjectives are words frequently found attached to chickens.
15:59:46 <int-e> s/cameras/obscure chambers/
16:02:15 <oerjan> time for today's nutella ball
16:05:49 <int-e> actually that pun may be better suited for a short lesson in etymology: The origin of the term "camera" is very obscure.
16:06:46 <oerjan> i can't quite pinpoint the hole in that claim
16:08:59 <int-e> pinhole cameras have such beautiful distortions.
16:08:59 * boily M-M-M-M-MULTI THWACKS both oerjan and int-e in one swift hook
16:10:00 <int-e> look at the last sample here... http://blogs.egusd.net/katzenbargerj/2015/01/08/pinhole/
16:11:37 <boily> http://pinhole.cz/ ← with a DIY paper pinhole camera!
16:16:26 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
16:31:45 <HackEgo> dragon//Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels.
16:32:17 <boily> . o O ( are komodo dragons edible? )
16:32:28 <int-e> they probably taste like chicken
16:33:46 <int-e> https://www.quora.com/Can-you-eat-Komodo-dragon-What-does-it-taste-like
16:34:11 <int-e> suggests yes, actually suggests it has a distinct flavour (so not chicken)
16:36:20 <int-e> I guess that's the most useful answer I'll find... 4 google hits further and I'm at https://forums.t-nation.com/t/komodo-dragon-meat/128563
17:11:52 <rdococ> how about an operator Ψ, where Ψf(x) = x
17:13:23 <rdococ> I picked Ψ because it looks like both a w and a y, and I like to call the operator the "why" operator
17:20:14 <rdococ> not even the weird integer-e type?
17:20:52 * moony derps a derped derp and runs from the insueing derped explosion of derpy derped derps and derps the derp award for most derpy derped derps in a derpy sentence
17:25:01 <pikhq_> izabera: "z" is more usual as the Japanization of the dental fricative. And "tekisuto" is the standard transcription.
17:26:37 <fungot> That Pong alone cannot stop!
17:27:20 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pung: not found
17:27:40 <moony> `mk pung//echo ping #just because loops
17:27:51 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pung: not found
17:28:06 <moony> `mkx pung//echo ping #just because loops
17:28:15 <oerjan> <rdococ> how about an operator Ψ, where Ψf(x) = x <-- doesn't look linear, (Ψf+Ψg)(x) = 2x != Ψ(f+g)(x)
17:28:15 <HackEgo> mv: missing destination file operand after `pung bin/pung' \ Try `mv --help' for more information.
17:28:27 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pung: not found
17:28:35 <moony> `` mv pung bin/pung
17:28:41 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pung: not found
17:29:19 <oerjan> (also Ψ is pretty much taken for the schrödinger operator, which _is_ linear)
17:30:09 <rdococ> schrodinger operation?
17:34:54 * oerjan smashes his keyboard to pieces
17:35:18 <oerjan> rdococ: oh wait Ψ is the schrödinger _vector_.
17:36:00 <oerjan> also, i don't see what was unclear in that line hth
17:39:45 <rdococ> now imagine we pick a variable, x, and do Ψx
17:40:26 <rdococ> well, that's a function x=x so it would be x
17:41:42 <oerjan> that doesn't work, too ambiguous.
17:43:09 <oerjan> don't treat variables as functions of themselves if you have any higher-order functions in sight.
17:43:44 <oerjan> also, burn all the high school books which do this twh
17:50:31 <oerjan> <myname> since christmas or halloween might involve sex, taneb couldn't have invented it <-- this argument has been considered and rejected before, it doesn't count if the sex is added after invention hth
17:55:05 <rdococ> x is in no way a function
17:55:15 <rdococ> I don't see what it could be
17:55:21 <rdococ> but let's make it be anyway
17:56:08 <boily> x(t) is often encoutered in mechanics: position of an object w.r.t. time.
17:56:58 <boily> strangely enough, the cyrillic script isn't used in mathematics...
17:57:17 <rdococ> so... if Ψx = ξ... does that have any special properties?
17:58:07 <oerjan> boily: that's because wolfram hasn't managed to find out how palatalize functions yet hth
17:58:28 <rdococ> well, what you said above seems to suggest that (Ψf)(x) = Ψf(x)
17:58:33 <oerjan> oh read that as mathematica
17:59:05 * oerjan procrastinates getting glasses some more
17:59:27 <oerjan> rdococ: well that's just precedence.
17:59:32 <rdococ> Ψf(x) = x... we could say that Ψf is the identity function but I don't think that's quite it
17:59:39 <oerjan> and comes natural to all haskellers.
18:00:29 <oerjan> rdococ: it's pretty much the definition of the identity function hth
18:01:57 <rdococ> but say you take sin(theta), store it in a variable x. then Ψx = theta
18:02:20 <rdococ> at least in my vision of it
18:02:52 <oerjan> now you're not just type incorrect but impure as well
18:10:23 <rdococ> log(x*y) = log(x) + log(y)... so what about log(x+y)?
18:12:15 <int-e> which is actually a useful way of writing it
18:12:43 <rdococ> it seems like a natural lower operation to addition
18:14:28 <rdococ> imagine a culture that prefers the ratio operator, x:y = x/(x+y)
18:16:15 <oerjan> = log(x+y), that was the point
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18:19:28 <rdococ> inverse ratio, x;y = -xy/(y-1)... so 2;2 = -4/1 = -4... and 4;4 = -16/3...
18:40:15 <rdococ> wanna know a cool science fact?
18:40:42 <rdococ> we are two thirds rust...
18:40:47 <rdococ> hydrogen rust, to be specific
18:52:56 <int-e> (I made it as far as reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust before deciding that I don't want to fall victim to https://xkcd.com/386/ )
18:53:21 <oerjan> more like 3/4 hydrogen ash hth
18:54:16 <int-e> oerjan's making it worse.
18:55:36 <oerjan> i suppose the part that is still hydrogen doesn't count as ash...
18:56:09 <oerjan> but that can't be that much by mass.
18:57:03 <int-e> "Many studies have been conducted regarding the chemical composition of wood ash, with widely varying results. Some quote calcium carbonate (CaCO3) as the major constituent,[1] others find no carbonate at all, but calcium oxide (CaO) instead.[2] Some show as much as twelve percent iron oxide[2] while others show none,[3] though iron oxide is often introduced through contamination with soil."
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18:59:01 <int-e> I think I'll gloss over the difficulty of producing 1/4 Helium-4
18:59:38 <int-e> (Also I guess that if you're unlucky you'll get a neutron.)
19:00:27 <oerjan> um 1/4 helium-4 is what you start with hth
19:00:50 <oerjan> i suppose i missed an ash in there
19:02:15 <int-e> ashes don't grow on trees?
19:03:50 <int-e> though maybe you could splice an ash branch on another tree, hmm
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20:48:04 <myname> oerjan: i don't see how sex was added to the "celebration of love" afterwards instead of being a planed part
20:49:20 <oerjan> you're aware of the virgin birth, right?
20:49:28 <oerjan> no sex involved at all hth
20:50:36 <myname> but wouldn't that mean Taneb has to be a few centuries old?
20:51:08 <oerjan> well he already invented the universe, i don't see how christmas makes that worse.
21:07:08 <int-e> damn, another comic hit the waiting for updates wall.
21:07:36 <oerjan> what's the waiting for updates wall
21:08:11 <int-e> Everblue, in this case.
21:08:30 <myname> let me just open my comic reader
21:11:37 <myname> i am in this weird state of having enough to read but still wanting more
21:17:10 <int-e> it doesn't help that quite some webcomic authors took off over the christmas holidays
21:18:00 <myname> do you have a good source for new comics?
21:20:00 <int-e> nah, basically I just follow links from other comics
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21:28:45 <rdococ> %_x = 1/100_x; for any base x
21:34:14 <fizzie> "I remember my father said that he remembers as a boy listening to Sir Belleus, the Finnish composer, --"
21:34:17 <fizzie> Good job, whoever wrote these subtitles.
21:35:15 <fizzie> I was watching this BBC show, QI, from Netflix (free trial). I don't know if the Netflix subtitles are their own, or BBC's.
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21:36:17 <shachaf> that is a quite interesting transcription hth
21:36:30 <int-e> Oh that would have been funny if I had known about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Sibelius
21:38:00 <fizzie> As far as Finnish composers go, you can hardly get more famous, but I'm not sure where that really ranks globally.
21:38:18 <fizzie> "Sir Belleus" would be a funny name for a Finn in any case.
21:39:25 <fizzie> In the movie Swordfish, there's a "Finnish" hacker guy called "Axl Torvalds" (I imagine the name has something to do with Linus), and when he's speaking "Finnish" it's actually German.
21:40:13 <shachaf> Are you sure he isn't speaking "Swedish"?
21:40:36 <fizzie> I think it was implied it was Finnish, though I don't really know how.
21:40:44 <fizzie> Maybe the subtitles said something like [SPEAKING FINNISH].
21:41:03 <oerjan> sir belleus sounds like what monty python would call him, so obviously right for a british series hth
21:41:08 <shachaf> German is a pretty widely recognized language, though.
21:41:39 <int-e> Hmm, I can't tell whether I'm ignorant or whether he's just not that well known. Both are plausible explanations, possibly in combination.
21:42:35 <fizzie> IMDb "Trivia" page for the movie says: "Axl Torvalts [sic] is actually speaking German in the interrogation scene, not Finnish."
21:43:17 <oerjan> i know about sibelius hth
21:43:26 <fizzie> (I'm pretty sure they did get the surname "right" in the actual movie, though.)
21:47:12 <oerjan> int-e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c
21:47:22 * oerjan didn't know it was so short
21:50:41 <int-e> wouldn't have watched it anyway (bandwidth), but "This video contains content from Studio Hamburg, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."
21:51:03 <int-e> considerate is the word.
21:52:51 <shachaf> It's more an audio than a video.
21:52:59 <fizzie> Heh. Worked for me in the UK.
21:53:49 <int-e> I could probably circumvent it
21:58:33 <shachaf> Tanebvention = Taneb circumvention?
22:00:36 <oerjan> this one has lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOSaT6U4e-8
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23:40:11 <rdococ> you have sent @ messages
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23:44:46 <rdococ> imagine an alternate timeline where we never used division but instead had a ration operator :
23:45:47 <rdococ> 0:0 would be seen as the same value as 1:1 because the two are the same
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23:47:57 <izabera> > because the two are the same
23:48:00 <lambdabot> Variable not in scope: because :: t0 -> t1 -> t2 -> t3 -> t4 -> terror: ...
23:48:05 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:4: error: parse error on input ‘in’
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