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01:43:20 <Taneb> Be friends with your digestive system
01:43:27 <Taneb> Consume foodstuffs other than dairy products
02:14:32 <alercah> `learn tanebvice is to consume foodtuffs other than dairy products
02:14:36 <HackEgo> Learned 'tanebvice': tanebvice is to consume foodtuffs other than dairy products
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02:36:52 <zzo38> I can mention the spells I made up (not finalized) for a GURPS game you can tell me the opinion of it. One is you can seek the nearest fire (even lit candles) (but not fire internal to creatures). One is you can seek the nearest significant amount of air that is either a faster wind speed or a slower wind speed than where you are (caster specifies which).
02:39:04 <zzo38> Another spell is you can cast on two mirrors, and causes each mirror to show what the other one reflects, instead of what itself reflects. One more spell is changes the frequency band of the target's vision according to caster's choice (can be: infrared, normal, ultraviolet). And, one more spell is causes the caster's Vampiric Bite power (if he has any) to heal the target of the spell instead of healing himself.
02:40:25 <zzo38> The first two are instant but other three have a limited duration, and can be maintained by paying more energy into the spell after it expires. Changing the frequency band of target's vision is resistible, but you are allowed to choose not to resist.
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03:02:51 <Taneb> zzo38, what do you mean by seek
03:04:23 <Taneb> Actually I am going to go to bed now so I cannot answer
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03:30:11 <zzo38> I can answer anyways in case you read later or someone else on here has the same questions. I mean that the caster can know approximately the distance and direction to such things.
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05:11:32 <HackEgo> I have nothing to tell you.
05:11:47 <HackEgo> \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯
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05:16:05 <HackEgo> Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
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05:21:45 <\oren\> What should I add to my font next
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07:00:29 <zzo38> Chess problem circa 840: 6K1/3r3r/5kn1/5p2/5P2/6N1/8/4R1R1 #3
07:38:15 <\oren\> doesthiswork: hmm, seems like it doesn't. I just edited something and it didn't
07:40:08 <\oren\> i forget is i it fizzie who is the person who fixes that wiki to hackego thing
07:45:29 <\oren\> in the future, the main winter holiday will be renamed "Mega Christmas" and it will involve cola, glowy trees and shopping
08:31:38 <fizzie> To the second-to-last comment.
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09:58:50 <b_jonas> \oren\: I still say figure out the details of the OTF format so you can add variant glyphs, then add vertial versions of CJK punctuation
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11:20:22 <b_jonas> zzo38: ayt? Since you make rules for supporting unofficial M:tG cards. I have an Attack Fighter from Droidikar. If I cast Aerial Modification enchanting that, does it become a 2/2 artifact creature equipment vehicle with flying that can't be attached because it's a creature?
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14:11:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Benchmark]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50794 * Taktentus * (+291) first
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14:14:07 <b_jonas> you fixed the wiki reporter?
14:14:35 <mikolaj9> hello, anybody can help me with making web page about Benchmark?
14:15:09 <mikolaj9> is any list of languages who can run on Linux? or some similar method to foud it?
14:21:04 <izabera> every language can run on linux
14:22:06 <mikolaj9> izabera: he he ;-) ok. what You thing about creating benchmark of languages?
14:22:22 <izabera> done https://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/
14:23:15 <mikolaj9> I'm not talking about regular lang but esoteric
14:27:03 <mikolaj9> look this https://esolangs.org/wiki/Benchmark
14:27:47 <mikolaj9> jit, compilers and interpreters are separatelly
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15:26:42 <zzo38> b_jonas: Post the text of those cards.
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17:00:14 <b_jonas> `card-by-name aerial modification
17:00:28 <b_jonas> was that what I called the executable?
17:00:50 <b_jonas> oh right, I haven't updated the card list
17:01:28 <b_jonas> `fetch http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2017-01-20.zip
17:01:32 <HackEgo> 2017-01-23 17:01:25 URL:http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2017-01-20.zip [752230/752230] -> "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip" [1]
17:02:20 <b_jonas> ``` mv -vi "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip" share/mtg/
17:02:24 <HackEgo> `All Sets-2017-01-20.zip' -> `share/mtg/All Sets-2017-01-20.zip'
17:02:46 <b_jonas> ``` cd mtg && 7z x "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip"
17:02:49 <HackEgo> bash: line 0: cd: mtg: No such file or directory
17:02:52 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && 7z x "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip"
17:02:54 <HackEgo> /hackenv/lib/p7zip-16.02/7z: 1: /hackenv/lib/p7zip-16.02/7z: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
17:03:07 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && unzip "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip"
17:03:08 <HackEgo> bash: unzip: command not found
17:03:43 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && 7za x "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip"
17:03:45 <HackEgo> bash: /hackenv/bin/7za: cannot execute binary file
17:04:44 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && zcat "All Sets-2017-01-20.zip" > "All Sets-2017-01-20.txt"
17:05:15 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && ls -l "All Sets-2017-01-20.txt"
17:05:17 <HackEgo> -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 3275030 Jan 23 17:04 All Sets-2017-01-20.txt
17:05:26 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && cp -v "All Sets-2017-01-20.txt" allsets.txt
17:05:36 <HackEgo> `All Sets-2017-01-20.txt' -> `allsets.txt'
17:05:39 <HackEgo> Aerial Modification \ 4W \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature or Vehicle \ As long as enchanted permanent is a Vehicle, it's a creature in addition to its other types. \ Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has flying. \ AER-U
17:06:31 <zzo38> Attack Fighter from Droidikar is what then?
17:06:42 <b_jonas> Attack Fighter is at http://www.darthsanddroids.net/orb/images/v8CPxOOJin.png
17:06:53 <b_jonas> so I think a reasonable text for it would be
17:07:29 <zzo38> Your description of what you thought it meant is correct from what I know.
17:07:51 <b_jonas> Attack Fighter \ 4 \ Artifact - Vehicle Equipment \ Equipped creature has "{1}, {T}: Blast F". \ If Attack Fighter is destroyed, destroy equipped creature. \ Equip {4}
17:08:30 <zzo38> My variant rules would not prevent it from being attached to anything, but other than that it works the same way.
17:08:44 <sdhand> `card-by-name Nissa Worldwaker
17:08:46 <b_jonas> The rules extension for Droidikar is at http://www.darthsanddroids.net/orb/achievements/0REXqMjMV6.html
17:09:11 <b_jonas> (As in, that image describes rules required to support cards in Droidikar.)
17:10:29 <b_jonas> zzo38: the main question is whether Vehicle in Droidikar is the same artifact type as the new Vehicle type in M:tG, and the same question for the Pilot creature type
17:11:00 <zzo38> I think that it should be. I do not see why not.
17:36:23 <b_jonas> Vehicle has special rules, so it could have happened that applying the vehicle rules to the Droidikar cards would lead to absurd conclusions, but as far as I see, that doesn't happen.
17:37:20 <b_jonas> The Droidikar vehicles can be treated as ordinary vehicles, it's just that the ones that didn't use to have p/t printed shall now be assumed to start as 0/0, but that is already normal in the rules.
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17:58:03 <zzo38> Vehicle has no special rules.
17:58:35 <zzo38> I don't know what the Vehicle rules in Droidikar are, but normal Vehicles have no special rules.
17:58:52 <zzo38> (Even though the official rules have a section about them)
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18:37:34 <b_jonas> zzo38: so you're saying that rule 301.7b actually applies not only to Vehicles, but to any card?
18:37:40 <b_jonas> let me try to think of a specific example
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18:48:36 <b_jonas> I control a Sky Skiff that's currently a creature. I have a Quicksilver Elemental, which I activate targetting the Skiff, but while it's on the stack, I use Simic Guildmage to attach an Imprisoned in the Moon to the Elemental. After both of those resolve, the ex-Elemental has a crew ability.
18:49:17 <b_jonas> zzo38: If I activate the crew ability of the ex-Elemental and have it resolve, what will its types and p/t be?
18:49:35 <b_jonas> Sorry for the somewhat convoluted example.
18:52:52 <b_jonas> 301.7a tells what p/t vehicles will have if they're crewed, but that rule doesn't apply here because the ex-Elemental isn't a vehicle. However, it's possible that 301.7a doesn't really do anything, and Kraj regains its 4/6 stats anyway.
18:54:47 <b_jonas> I guess that might be how it works: the rule that noncreature permanents don't have a p/t probably applies late enough, after the types and p/t are computed.
18:55:11 <zzo38> What I meant is that rule 301.7a is redundant; the other rules already do that, regardless of it is a Vehicle or not.
18:57:14 <b_jonas> I'm talking about 301.7b though, not 301.7a
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18:57:41 <b_jonas> I think you're right, vehicles don't have special rules
18:58:17 <b_jonas> that implies there can't be a conflict between the vehicle rules and the Droidikar vehicles
19:07:50 <int-e> vehicles... so extrapolating from that, 5 years from now M:tG will have space ships and laser swords?
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19:10:32 <zzo38> I mean the same thing about rule 301.7b, and even rule 301.7 which is only descriptive and is not an actual rule.
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19:11:14 <int-e> Hah, GG is unplagued!
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19:15:35 <HackEgo> hello hello hello, what's all this then?
19:15:41 <int-e> . o O ( Is "hello" the new "bye"? )
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19:37:26 <HackEgo> o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to call them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world,
19:37:33 <HackEgo> A is a village in Norway. The BBC invented it by not understanding things on top of letters.
19:37:59 <HackEgo> b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs oerjan_nop̈e oerjan_nop̈e
19:38:15 <HackEgo> 5951:2015-08-31 <oerjan_nop̈e> learn_append os Also a municipality in Norway. \ 5952:2015-08-31 <oerjan_nop̈e> rm wisdom/o \ 7423:2016-04-17 <b_jonäs> learn o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It\'s about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to call them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about the
19:38:17 <shachaf> b_jonas: The undead sorcerer is only a secondary concern by now, isn't it?
19:38:41 <shachaf> Well. Maybe not secondary.
19:38:49 <shachaf> I guess the destruction of the world took precedence for a little while.
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21:42:38 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I based that description of o on this interview by Rich, so Word of God says that that's actually what the comic is about: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=20461937
21:43:03 <shachaf> rich burlew is not god hth
21:44:13 <shachaf> Anyway, he said that several years ago.
21:46:29 <wob_jonas> I might be reading too much into it
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22:40:04 <HackEgo> pbflist//pbflist is update notification for the Perry Bible Fellowship webcomic. http://pbfcomics.com/
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23:35:46 <HackEgo> monad//Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
23:36:09 <HackEgo> false//false is a very old stack-based language. For an authentic experience, run it on an Amiga. It's also not true.
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