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00:56:07 <boily> hmm... steam refuses to load...
00:56:51 <boily> I launched steam from the command line to see what happens. it's stuck verifying installation...
00:57:11 <boily> it's saying "Verification complete" since many minutes ago.
00:58:27 <boily> quintopia: you internet iffies?
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01:17:21 <shachaf> 08:31 <HackEgo> demo icfholle zha ate insuartr shar pvbaral weiser beati aochaf pude her aam rat severt gely utionapa incement myoful call muleav variou varth alr bayt
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03:08:03 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZCXzd00OcU
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06:43:52 <HackEgo> Royal Dahl is the king of Norway.
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11:34:16 <HackEgo> tree//You should sometimes (but not always) ignore trees.
11:41:11 <boily> the sun isn't even up yet.
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11:41:56 <b_jonas> I think it is up, just hidden behind the cloud cover
11:46:57 <b_jonas> Does it bother anyone else that ruby and rust use the .. and ... operator backwards compared to each other?
11:47:51 <boily> what was the difference again?
11:49:08 <b_jonas> inclusive versus half-inclusive range
11:49:14 <b_jonas> in perl, both .. and ... are inclusive range
11:49:22 <b_jonas> in ruby, .. is inclusive and ... is half-inclusive
11:49:32 <b_jonas> in rust, .. is half-inclusive and ... is inclusive
11:49:41 <b_jonas> when used as a binary operator
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14:00:04 <FireFly> I would argue that Rust's choice is more mnemonic (... covers an extra element, is also probably rarer, is therefore a char longer), but to be honest I think supporting both and making a difference between them is harmful
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14:44:26 <b_jonas> FireFly: yes, but otoh ruby's choice is more mnemonic because even though .. and ... are the same in perl in this context, almost everybody writes .. because it's shorter, so everybody remembers that in perl, .. means an inclusive range.
14:45:17 <FireFly> I guess it's more mnemonic if one already knows Perl :P
14:46:42 <b_jonas> Yes, and ruby originally expected to appeal mostly to the sort of people who already know perl, so it tries to be easy to learn for those people, when that doesn't make the language worse, but changes only arbitrary naming choices.
14:47:34 <b_jonas> The same way as perl tries to be easy to learn if you already know C, so it has bitwise & have lower precedence than ==, because C people already know that's how operators work, even if that's stupid.
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15:50:10 <zzo38> And then C uses ... for range including both ends, and JavaScript uses ... for another different use entirely (converts an array, string, or generator into multiple arguments)
15:50:41 <zzo38> (or multiple arguments into an array, if given as input arguments.)
15:50:44 <alercah> C doesn't have ranges, ... is different
15:53:41 <zzo38> In a case or in the index for an initializer you can use ... to specify a range, which I think is a GNU extension.
15:56:39 <b_jonas> zzo38: ah right, gnu c extension switch(c) { case 0...9:
15:56:59 <b_jonas> right, that's a strange one, probably comes from the Linux people
16:00:47 <^v> \oren\, i belive i got you banned in ##c++
16:11:07 <^v> i had a (should be) super simple issue
16:11:30 <^v> they said they diddnt trust i was telling the truth
16:11:54 <^v> turned out to be an issue with the error g++ provided
16:12:06 <^v> i was right
16:12:57 <^v> they banned ^*!*@* and \*!*@*
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16:21:56 <b_jonas> ^v: and apparently _*!*@* and [*!*@* were already banned
16:24:51 <\oren\> crap I did that wrong hold on
16:25:45 <\oren\> whatever, I'm highly amused that they banned all nicks with symbols just to be sure
16:26:35 <\oren\> g++ has some of the worst worded errors
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16:30:38 <\oren\> maybe it's supposed to be for offensive nicks
16:32:27 <^v> ^v, \oren\, [joker], and _0ne are insanely offensive
16:34:15 <\oren\> For example, #python might have a ban on LarryWall
16:34:17 <b_jonas> \oren\: not all. I think nicks starting with ] or ` are mostly not banned
16:36:04 <\oren\> and #gcc-dev might have a ban on Linus*!*@* after too many angry tirades
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16:40:12 <LarryWall> I just joined #ruby and said I love python
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16:41:11 <\oren\> argh, they fiigred out I was fake already
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17:12:55 <moony> i decided to put otherbot's sandbox on npm, to see how it goes. (its not intended to be used in place of a V8 sandbox, but iovoid wrote the readme, not me :/): www.npmjs.com/package/nullbox
17:13:49 <moony> im thinking you all could probably crack it like a nutshell if you tried :P
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17:17:22 <zzo38> Change the order of the conditions on line 22 of lib/sandbox.js so that the typeof condition comes first.
17:18:50 <moony> on it.... and done
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17:36:33 <moony> zzo38, whats the reason? just to make sure its a string first thing? :P
17:39:55 <zzo38> Otherwise the comparison might call a function (and perhaps even throw an error). The other way using strict comparison but putting the typeof first is more logical I think.
17:54:30 <moony> zzo38, im thinking the Proxy object could be useful somewhere for sandbox design. i mean, look at its functionalities
17:55:11 <zzo38> Yes, for some uses it can be very useful for sandbox design. I think there is actually another package that does that.
17:58:02 <moony> VM2 i think, but im betting its vulnerable.
17:58:39 <zzo38> Maybe it is; I don't know. I haven't examined it much, and I don't know if anyone else has either.
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20:11:27 <izabera> dear muslim refugees: just pretend to be christian. that's what most christians do anyways
20:16:17 <\oren\> izabera: or they could get a fike passprot from one of the ~50 muslim countries that aren't banned
20:19:03 <izabera> what happened to your autocorrect?
20:21:18 <\oren\> Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Turkey, Saudia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, are all not banned
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20:26:37 <\oren\> hippavilion1, where did your square brackets go?
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21:22:54 <Zarutian> \oren\: what is difference between a 'real' and 'fake' passport exactly?
21:29:46 <\oren\> Zarutian: whether it was issued to the person by the government of the country it says on the front
21:30:46 <\oren\> Afaik countries only issue passports to their citizens.
21:31:10 <Zarutian> \oren\: no passports are issued by any governments but only agents of aforesaid governments.
21:32:34 <\oren\> well sure that's what I mant
21:33:30 <Zarutian> well some countries issue passports for persons of other countries if said person lost theirs and cannot travel. But those usually have text "The <insert country name here> hereby certifies that this individual is who he (or she) is." or something similiar in it.
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22:07:03 <\oren\> my bot has a new function
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22:15:23 <oren> ❄showchar U8CC7
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22:18:32 <\oren\> first I need to kill the other oren
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22:21:38 <\oren\> ☃ grep -A4 U08cc7 ~/art.txt
22:21:52 <\oren\> Hmm, now why doesn't that work
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22:24:18 <\oren\> you can now get a big version of any character by typig ❄showchar followed by 0x1234 or U+1234 or U1234
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22:30:02 <oren> that did not work.
22:30:59 <oren> had to quickly pkill -9 irssi to stop it
22:31:27 <oren> how far into unicode did it get?
22:33:42 <oren> the logs seem to show that I killed it before it could flood the channel with every unicode character
22:42:05 <oren> ☃ status: reading...
22:43:54 <Taneb> Doesn't render very well in my font
22:44:03 <Taneb> The braille, that is
22:44:41 <oren> Hmm, but if I used blocks the thing would be twice as tall and wide
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22:46:28 <Taneb> It's a little better if I turn the font size up
22:46:29 <\oren\> I would be using pixels twice as big ▀▄
22:50:38 <\oren\> should I bother with the ☃ U00047 G line?
22:55:24 <\oren\> oops, I forgot to sanitize it for $ and * and etc
22:58:37 <\oren\> always remember to use grep -F and not just grep
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23:02:39 <lambdabot> CYUL 302200Z 25010KT 15SM FEW030 FEW075 FEW240 M10/M17 A2986 RMK CF1AC2CI1 CF TR CI TR SLP114
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23:10:12 <\oren\> I almost spammed the channel with a list of every unicode character but I pkill -9'd my client in time
23:10:39 <Zarutian> oren: are you going also provide sixels version?
23:12:40 <\oren\> I wonder if sixels would be preserved over irc
23:12:46 <boily> there aren't *that* many unicode codepoints, just a few.
23:17:34 <\oren\> my terminal doesn't seem to support them
23:18:36 <Zarutian> your terminal must be VT340 mode
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23:49:40 <boily> time to go sneak upon an unsuspecting poutine.
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23:52:22 <oerjan> `addquote <boily> time to go sneak upon an unsuspecting poutine.
23:52:59 <Taneb> I wonder if I can order takeaway poutine at this time of night in York
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23:53:23 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: I hear the amazon delivery bears will bring it.
23:57:18 <oerjan> they won't bring surströmming though, that's unbearable.
23:58:50 <oerjan> looks like the entire wiki server is down again.