00:00:00 <shachaf> fizzie: You should try out Buck and see if it's better.
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00:02:52 <fizzie> shachaf: FWIW, turned out all the rest of the problems were because the plugin just didn't support Android Studio 2.3 yet, while the "external dependencies not resolving" was due to a bad experiment they had pushed out, and had already disabled by the time I reached the end of the story.
00:03:00 <fizzie> You know those Googlers, always experimenting on people.
00:03:17 <fizzie> I didn't even know the thing had an experimentation framework.
00:03:27 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
00:03:58 <shachaf> `slwd fizzie//s. k. canary k.
00:04:00 <HackEgo> fizzie//fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky canary king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
00:04:26 <HackEgo> Your wise @messages-lord fanfic oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Glasswegian who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
00:05:05 <HackEgo> funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
00:05:35 <boily> `rot13 Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
00:05:36 <HackEgo> The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
00:15:18 <boily> `learn A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up.
00:15:21 <HackEgo> Learned 'canary': A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up.
00:22:33 <quintopia> boily: can you hear god talking here: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EkAZ2uFsCG
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00:27:11 <krok_> quintopia: what the heck is that
00:27:14 <krok_> quintopia: is that you?
00:27:29 <boily> also, I think you found the perfect ais523porthello.
00:29:02 <boily> quintopia: I heard god :D
00:29:21 <shachaf> I still want to see a picture of the computer ais523 didn't choose.
00:29:34 <krok_> quintopia: i listened to the whole thing, still confused af
00:29:49 <ais523> I didn't take a picture of it though
00:30:58 <shachaf> I think I may have considered buying that computer once.
00:31:04 <shachaf> http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/UX501JW-DS71T/P5070055.jpg
00:32:27 <shachaf> At least there's an end key on the number pad.
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00:34:14 <HackEgo> c++//Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people.
00:35:06 <boily> still at the magical number ^^
00:36:31 <boily> who again had managed to flood the chännel, that one infamous time?
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01:31:38 <HackEgo> fabric of reality//The fabric of reality is *not* plaid corduroy, no matter what evil tongues say.
01:31:58 <HackEgo> ehlist//ehlist is update notification for the Everyday Heroes webcomic. http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/
01:32:25 <HackEgo> program//A program is an image created by means of prography.
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01:32:33 <HackEgo> p//P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP.
01:32:57 <HackEgo> NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem.
01:33:33 <boily> I believe it will become irrelevant if P = and/or != NP, we'll just brute force everything in due time.
01:34:06 <shachaf> only brutes use brute force
01:34:31 <boily> brutes with raw musculo-computing power.
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01:35:10 <HackEgo> lie algebra//A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size.
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01:37:10 <boily> are there practical applications to Lie algebra?
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01:40:46 <fizzie> We all got a chicken-duck-woman thing waiting for us.
01:40:47 <fizzie> (I clicked too much in YouTube.)
01:41:35 <boily> Every day I worry all day ♪
01:43:32 * Marcela_- y jackiller_killex pronton se casan :-[ quien se anota para la boda ?
01:45:26 <boily> ¿porqué ":-["? ¿no eres alegre?
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01:57:02 <HackEgo> dowry//A dowry is a pribe paid for a brice, or maybe a bribe paid for a pride.
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01:58:20 <fungot> boily: it was a hacked up quick and dirty memory fnord normally used it in about any language
02:01:35 <HackEgo> al gore//Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet.
02:01:59 <HackEgo> bardsworthlist//bardsworthlist is update notification for the Bardsworth webcomic. http://www.bardsworth.com/
02:05:47 <HackEgo> 6206:2015-11-13 <b_jonäs> le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet. \ 6113:2015-10-20 <oerjän> le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm. \ 6106:2015-10-20 <ais52̈3> le/rn al gore/al gore invented the algorithm
02:06:30 <HackEgo> patching file 'wisdom/al gore'
02:06:36 <HackEgo> Al Gore invented the algorithm.
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04:07:57 <quintopia> i still can't log in to the freakin' wiki
04:08:27 <quintopia> like--i've got four cookies set from esolangs.org--but apparently that's not enough for my login to stick
04:09:16 <quintopia> ...and apparently deleting them fixed it
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04:47:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Silberjoder]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50828 * Quintopia * (+3772) Page created
04:48:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50829&oldid=50820 * Quintopia * (+18)
04:49:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALESYTA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50830&oldid=50737 * Quintopia * (+41)
04:50:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Quintopia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50831&oldid=46041 * Quintopia * (+80)
04:51:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Platts]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50832&oldid=45607 * Quintopia * (-45) /* Implementation */
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06:37:25 <\oren\> Oh, look, someone baleeted their whole production database
06:37:38 <\oren\> https://twitter.com/gitlabstatus/status/826591961444384768
06:40:35 <shachaf> how's your build system today
06:40:39 <shachaf> you should invent a good build system
06:42:24 <\oren\> shachaf: It's 1:42 AM, but the build system was crap today
06:42:36 <shachaf> it's always 1:42 AM somewhere
06:43:07 <\oren\> The pre checkin tests failed to fail, the continuous build failed
06:43:28 <\oren\> because apparently there's a limit to how long a command line can be
06:44:02 <\oren\> which was passed by the continuous build but not the pre-checkin tests
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06:49:51 <\oren\> hopefully things will be better by tomorrow afternoon
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10:41:10 <oerjan> @tell boily <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve mul<boily> are there practical applications to Lie algebra?
10:41:50 <oerjan> @tell boily oops. something pasted prematurely. stupid touchpad.
10:43:01 <oerjan> @tell boily <boily> are there practical applications to Lie algebra? <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve multidimensional diff. eqs with them. well, i think that's what we did. it was in Lie's hometown.
10:47:30 <oerjan> @tell boily someone got the bright idea to have math summer schools there, it's a pretty small town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfjordeid
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10:49:43 <oerjan> @tell oh. they're still doing that http://www.mn.uio.no/math/english/about/collaboration/nordfjordeid/
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11:21:38 <oerjan> *sigh* wiki down again
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11:33:29 <int-e> (okay, that was silly)
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11:47:09 <boily> børjan matin, bon matint-e.
11:47:26 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 6m 15s ago: <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve mul<boily> are there practical applications to Lie algebra?
11:47:27 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 5m 36s ago: oops. something pasted prematurely. stupid touchpad.
11:47:27 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 4m 24s ago: <boily> are there practical applications to Lie algebra? <-- absolutely. i once was on a summer course to learn how to solve multidimensional diff. eqs with them. well, i
11:47:27 <lambdabot> think that's what we did. it was in Lie's hometown.
11:47:27 <lambdabot> oerjan said 59m 55s ago: someone got the bright idea to have math summer schools there, it's a pretty small town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfjordeid
11:48:19 <oerjan> i thought i sent one more
11:48:35 <oerjan> oh. apparently i sent it to poor "oh."
11:48:56 <oerjan> <oerjan> @tell oh. they're still doing that http://www.mn.uio.no/math/english/about/collaboration/nordfjordeid/
11:49:53 <oerjan> surprise sane people, in Girl Genius? how can this be.
11:52:29 <boily> that was disturbingly logical...
11:58:49 <int-e> oerjan: that sounded like fungot
11:58:49 <fungot> int-e: maybe " esoteric wide web" is defined??' as ' codepoint.' now they have support for variable witdth fonts ( which i haven't even tested yet, it solves all this monkeying around, doesn't it
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12:00:13 <int-e> anyway this city network must be quite crowded by now
12:01:22 <oerjan> are you saying beausoleil is self replicating tdnh
12:01:35 <int-e> oerjan: and are you suggesting that sparks are not entirely sane... don't let them hear you!
12:01:50 <int-e> no, I'm not saying that
12:01:56 <oerjan> no, tarvek is suggesting it hth
12:03:08 <int-e> I'm just saying that at least 4 entities have messed with that network recently... the master himself, beausoleil (presumably), the castle, and colette.
12:03:32 <oerjan> well the castle was thrown out
12:04:01 <int-e> I'm half expecting it to go back in... let's see :P
12:04:30 <oerjan> well i'm expecting it come with gun blazing
12:04:36 <int-e> but I see no hint of replication in there.
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12:08:57 <int-e> Meh I hate colds... brain moving like molassess.
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12:10:00 * boily gives int-e oerjan's match
12:10:49 <oerjan> man, those match last long
12:18:43 <int-e> maybe the match is a proper torch
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16:15:53 <\oren\> My grade 6 teacher is retiring and we're gonna throw him a party!
16:19:35 <\oren\> I wonder how common that is
16:20:07 <\oren\> Also, I'm pretty sure some people wont come because they didn't like him
16:40:26 <\oren\> hmm, maybe that would be a good idea
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17:00:00 <GReaperEx> So... what's up with esolangs.org, does anyone know why it's down or when it'll return?
17:04:04 <int-e> The VM hosting the wiki seems to be down... fizzie might know more, but perhaps it needs divine intervention from Gregor :/
17:11:22 <GReaperEx> Ok, I guess I'll have to wait and see. It was down the day before yesterday too.
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18:45:29 <fizzie> It was down, and then back up.
18:46:07 <fizzie> I don't really have any visibility to the hosting provider, so yes, I think a Gregorvention is required. Or maybe it just comes back up naturally.
18:46:19 <quintopia> i guess i've gotten lucky. it's always been up when i've looked
18:47:02 <fizzie> I'm guessing there's at least one nine.
18:48:18 <fizzie> I have some monitoring on it, but I keep forgetting how this InfluxDB query language works.
18:48:29 <fizzie> It sure is no Dremel, I can say that much.
18:48:37 <quintopia> how is reliability usually measured anyway? continuously?
18:49:10 <shachaf> fizzie: I've been using Prometheus (a Borgmon clone) recently.
18:52:36 <fizzie> How rude, picking a name that's already an internal codename.
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18:53:09 <fizzie> "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped."
18:53:29 <Gregor> int-e: Bizarrely, the VM seems up but not on the network.
18:53:39 <Gregor> I'm gonna give it a kick.
18:53:40 <shachaf> fizzie: Is that the one that's the future?
18:53:48 <Gregor> Not sure why it decided that network access is for losers.
18:54:11 <fizzie> shachaf: I guess all of them are.
18:54:18 <fizzie> Or at least were at some point.
18:54:34 <shachaf> I keep mixing up my internal code names.
18:56:13 <\oren\> relevant: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/27/bofh_2015_episode_2/
19:00:39 <int-e> Gregor: oh, hope it's not permanent
19:02:06 <int-e> (I've just lost a CaC VM that way about two weeks ago, VM was up but lost network... however in that case the gateway was also unreachable from outside and that doesn't appear to be the case here.)
19:03:19 <int-e> (that's assuming that the gateway is 162.248.166.1)
19:03:33 <Gregor> That is indeed the gateway.
19:07:58 <Gregor> int-e: Problem seems to be the opposite. Outside can see GW but it can't.
19:09:25 <shachaf> Just as well, HackEgo being slow makes me not want to olist.
19:10:44 <shachaf> Since I olist, then it doesn't reply for a long while so I switch to another window, then it notifies me.
19:12:17 <int-e> Gregor: the gateway being visible from outside is new to me, it not being visible from inside also happened with my VM. total routing failure.
19:12:46 <Gregor> Not really much I can do about it :)
19:13:26 <int-e> Yeah. You can create a ticket and wait while CaC totally ignores it.
19:16:16 <int-e> or you can set up a mirror of http://www.cloudatacost.com/ (I suspect the owner would gladly give you permission :P)
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20:29:04 <izabera> actual website with useful info ^
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21:05:29 <\oren\> argh, now nano is freezing?!
21:05:50 <oerjan> i think this is "everything breaks" week
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21:08:00 <\oren\> oerjan: well at least the build system is working
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21:13:36 <oerjan> \oren\: well that was broken from the start hth
21:33:40 <\oren\> Water Rabbit refuses to pay back EU funds
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21:42:03 <fizzie> "The most common problems noticed are long waits for virtual machine deployment, loss of network connection, or total loss of a virtual machine. "
21:51:38 <\oren\> Albino Heghog is in the lead in nederland polls
21:52:46 <fizzie> izabera: Your cock wiki seems a little spam-infested.
22:01:00 <oerjan> it's on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/5r1g6l/esolangsorg_is_down/
22:02:45 <oerjan> well it's a very small subreddit.
22:03:18 <fizzie> Still, those are *real people* we're disappointifying. Not just #esoteric regulars.
22:03:57 <\oren\> I don't have a reddit acount, I deleted it
22:04:00 <oerjan> . o O ( `addquote ... oh wait )
22:04:19 <fizzie> I have once done a read-only backup copy for the wiki. Wonder if I should do something like that again.
22:04:53 <fizzie> Probably depends on how long the server is going to be down.
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22:21:08 <ais523> fizzie: wiki seems to be down
22:26:18 <fizzie> ais523: We were discussing that very thing right now, in fact.
22:26:26 <ais523> right, I just checked the log
22:26:35 <ais523> PPCG went and told me to go ping you though
22:26:48 <ais523> so it looks like there's at least two communities outside us that care about the wiki being down…
22:27:23 <fizzie> That's: so weird. Maybe I'll see if I can set up that read-only copy. I might still have most of the configuration in place.
22:28:29 <fizzie> Fortunately it was up on the 30th, so my weekly backup isn't even particularly stale.
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22:47:00 <fizzie> Hmm. What I don't have in my backups is the SSL certificate, since it's rather elsewhere. That's a shame.
22:56:33 <fizzie> This database restore takes a relatively long time.
23:01:37 <fizzie> I'm getting back "A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software."
23:02:10 <fizzie> Although maybe that was because the MySQL instance wasn't listening on TCP, just a Unix domain socket. Wonder if MediaWiki could use that.
23:02:55 <fizzie> Oh, it's already supposed to do that when the server is specified as "localhost".
23:06:56 <fizzie> I set on $wgShowSQLErrors, and the other error reporting thing on Manual:How_to_debug, but it still says nothing more verbose than that. :(
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23:09:04 <fizzie> Odd. The maintenance/rebuildFileCache.php script I executed from the command line seems to have no problems with the database.
23:09:12 <fizzie> And I think it's using the same settings.
23:11:17 <fizzie> Oh, whoops, it was using a path to the old version of MediaWiki for the PHP thing.
23:13:57 <fizzie> It's being pretty slow, but it did show up, yay. Wonder if I should try to set up the HTTPS thing as well.
23:23:44 <fizzie> Oh, right, I'll have to reconfigure the DNS before letsencrypt can actually do the domain verification thing.
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23:32:34 <fizzie> Okay, wiki should be back up in read-only mode.
23:34:00 <fizzie> (May also be slow, and you might have to wait for DNS records to propagate.)
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