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00:13:34 <int-e> shachaf: 373+1 and 9 lasers now, good night
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00:17:17 <zzo38> Into the next specification of ARB_fragment_program should add the arctangent function I think it seem to be the only thing they miss.
00:23:15 <int-e> well GLSL has it anyway
00:34:19 <oerjan> `` rhino --version
00:34:20 <HackEgo> Invalid option "--version" \ Usage: java org.mozilla.javascript.tools.shell.Main [options...] [files] \ Valid options are: \ -?, -help Displays help messages. \ -w Enable warnings. \ -version 100|110|120|130|140|150|160|170 \ Set a specific language version. \ -opt [-1|0-9] Set op
00:35:13 <oerjan> hm based on the 170, it's even older than what's on my nvg account, which is from 2011.
00:35:54 * oerjan is having trouble running some of the code examples on ppcg
00:36:28 <oerjan> in particular, []["find"] returns undefined, while the claim there was it should give a function object
00:38:32 <zzo38> You should add the one with ES6
00:38:57 <oerjan> oh according to wikipedia, there hasn't been a new version since 1.8.5, so that's not the problem
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01:09:40 <fizzie> oerjan: It's "Rhino 1.7 release 3 2012 02 13".
01:09:49 <fizzie> oerjan: I sometimes update the actual machine, but never really the chroot from which HackEgo gets its /usr from.
01:10:04 <oerjan> ah
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01:10:32 <oerjan> that ppcg thread seemed to be using browser js implementations, anyway
01:10:46 <fizzie> Yeah, I don't know if Rhino's really all that hip and pop anymore.
01:11:10 <shachaf> int-e: What's the +1?
01:11:12 <fizzie> Node runs on Chrome's V8, right?
01:11:44 * oerjan has "no idea" about this stuff
01:13:01 <fizzie> Me neither, I just saw a Github repo README advertising jobs for people "keen on ES2016 React+Redux applications and Node micro services".
01:13:28 <fizzie> So I guess that's where they think it's at.
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01:41:47 <oerjan> this has some other interesting entries than the js []+=` as well http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/110648/fewest-distinct-characters-for-turing-completeness
01:42:29 * oerjan is only a slight way down yet
01:43:18 * oerjan somehow wasn't expecting haskell to get the top place, but in hindsight...
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02:12:15 <oerjan> ooh, i'm cited in it
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02:27:09 <oerjan> twice!
02:27:15 <oerjan> oops
02:29:38 <oerjan> `? oerjan
02:29:46 <oerjan> twoops
02:30:11 * oerjan felt an urge to add "resident" somewhere
02:50:40 <oerjan> thrice!
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02:55:11 * oerjan uses the tranquilizer arrow again >--->
03:02:59 <zzo38> fizzie: Node.js does use V8 JavaScript, yes.
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03:16:19 <\oren\> If the value of a variable is not printed out often enough, it randomizes
03:21:44 <\oren\> `unicode 漆
03:26:19 <oerjan> fizzie: HackEgo is disjointed again hth
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04:05:26 <\oren\> my election slogan will be "vote for me, or you're a nazi"
04:05:44 <\oren\> it rhymes even
04:06:08 <oerjan> um, it doesn't
04:06:16 <\oren\> yes it does
04:06:37 <\oren\> vote for meeeee or youre a naziiiii
04:06:42 <oerjan> nazi is stressed on the first syllable hth
04:07:46 <\oren\> EH?!?!
04:08:06 <oerjan> problem?
04:09:20 <\oren\> whatever, the point is, all my opponents are literlly hitler.
04:09:47 <oerjan> spelling nazis
04:10:18 <\oren\> therefore, my voters are good people, and the people who voted against me are nazis
04:11:54 <zzo38> I think that is not how to
04:12:07 <pikhq> At the rate American politics is going, in 2024 the GOP might literally resurrect Hitler for their candidate.
04:12:08 * oerjan envisions \oren\ breaking into russia to get a genetic sample of hitler's jaw, so he can clone opponents
04:13:30 <\oren\> "Mr. Oren, how do you respond to allegations that you took campain controbutions from the oil indestry?" "The news outlets that reported that are the modern day der sturmer."
04:14:11 <oerjan> "Mr. Oren, we must protest your heinously ungrammatical use of "der" in that sentence."
04:15:18 <\oren\> "No you can't have a question, you're der sturmer!"
04:15:18 <oerjan> oh wait
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04:21:45 <\oren\> pikhq: then the democratic party clearly need to get Lenin
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05:00:50 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSh2HswKn5Y
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05:13:34 <oerjan> wat, girl genius hasn't updated
05:14:10 <alercah> THE END OF AN ERA
05:15:48 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-rbl0n3BUQ
05:17:30 <\oren\> QC did tho
05:18:29 <\oren\> I wonder if Jepf is playing Va-11 Hall-A?
05:23:29 <\oren\> ARGH idiots it's not A E S T H E T I C it's aesthetic
05:25:42 <alercah> choir has a song with a click in it
05:25:47 <alercah> I was not cut out to be a Zulu
05:26:10 <pikhq> Eh.
05:29:20 <oerjan> alercah: tsk, tsk
05:29:52 <alercah> oerjan: wrong one
05:30:07 <alercah> that's the c, we're doing the q
05:37:27 <\oren\> Click this bar! Get my font! It's designed for aesthetic terminals and editors.
05:37:38 <\oren\> that's my new tagline
05:38:34 <pikhq> アノサ、 ソノ ゼンカクローマジゲ ヘンダト オモウノサ。
05:38:44 <pikhq> *ガ
05:40:04 <\oren\> pikhq: what, the ones in my font you mean?
05:40:13 <pikhq> No, just in general.
05:40:50 <\oren\> oh. the aesthetic is something I see posted all over vaporwave songs on youtube in the comments
05:41:16 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/ <-- you can see how it looks in my font here
05:45:04 <alercah> \oren\: what was your dataset for the japanese n5 test?
05:45:50 <\oren\> Something I found using google
05:46:10 <\oren\> I then copypasted it, sedded it up into the file
05:54:10 <\oren\> m currenlty updating my font
05:55:56 <\oren\> 浪浮浸涙涯涼淑淡淫添渇渉渋渓渡渦湧湾湿溝溶溺滅滋滑滝滞滴漂漆漏漠漬漸潜
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06:01:47 <pikhq> Some useful characters in there.
06:02:40 <\oren\> ⦅⦆
06:02:56 <\oren\> I don't know why those wen't already in
06:05:28 <\oren\> ᔾᔿᕀᕁᕂᕃᕄᕅᕆᕇᕈᕉᕊᕋᕌᕍᕎᕏᕐᕑᕒᕓᕔᕕᕖᕗᕘᕙᕚᕛᕜᕝᕞᕟᕠᕡᕢᕣᕤᕥᕦᕧᕨᕩᕪᕾᕿᖀᖁᖂᖃᖄᖅ
06:05:45 <\oren\> almost finished with inuktitut
06:10:14 <\oren\> and more mathy stuff ⦛⦜⦝⦞⦟⦠⦡⦢⦣⦤⦥⦦⦧⦨⦩⦪⦫⦬⦭⦮⦯⧄⧅⧆⧇⧈⧉⧊⧋⧌⧍⧎⧏⧐⧘⧙⧚⧛⧜⧝⧞⧟
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06:15:12 <\oren\> that's it for this update
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06:28:59 <\oren\> oh, and I'm updating my description
06:29:03 <\oren\> Neoletters supports the unicode wide, 𝐛𝐨𝐥𝐝, 𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑐, 𝓈𝒸𝓇𝒾𝓅𝓉, 𝔣𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯, and 𝕕𝕠𝕦𝕓𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕦𝕔𝕜 letters, and renders bold fraktur as 𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑.
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07:35:54 <zzo38> I made a implementation of /// and the second beer program seems broke. I think I can see that the beer program seem wrong to me actually.
07:37:28 <zzo38> I changed "[/NL1/NL/]" into "[/NL1/NL-/]", and "[/NLNL0#0!//]" into "[/NLNL-0#-0!//]", and "[/1 bottles/1 bottle/V" into "[/NL-/NL//NL bottles/NL1 bottle/V", and now it is work. Is that the proper way to do?
07:38:46 <zzo38> Does the original program works on your computer?
08:20:37 <Jafet> `unicode U+25FB
08:22:58 <Jafet> so there's a U+25FB WHITE MEDIUM SQUARE, and also a U+1F78F MEDIUM WHITE SQUARE
08:24:03 <shachaf> whoa
08:24:05 <shachaf> too good
08:24:07 <Jafet> (the first medium is neither large nor small; the second medium is neither heavy nor light)
08:24:16 <Jafet> unicode, for all your white multimedia needs
08:24:24 <shachaf> 25FB WHITE MEDIUM SQUARE [◻]
08:24:32 <shachaf> 1F78F MEDIUM WHITE SQUARE [🞏]
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09:21:21 <fizzie> That's better.
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10:21:59 <int-e> shachaf: I expected that question.
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11:11:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51100&oldid=51049 * Haael * (+70) /* Mathematics */ Base 2
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11:40:12 <boily> `wisdom
11:40:14 <HackEgo> title//Titles J. K. Rowling had specifically denied on her webpage would be the titles of the sixth or seventh Harry Potter book are: Harry Potter and the{ Green Flame Torch, Mountain of Fantasy, Fortress of Shadows, Forest of Shadows, Graveyard of Memories, Pyramids of Furmat, Pillar of Storgé, Toenail of Icklibõgg}.
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12:07:18 <b_jonas_> \oren\: about your font, since you're adding such rare characters, you should consider adding vowels for Russian, Bulgarian, and Lithuanian with extra accents to mark stress or length that are used only in dictionaries, not in ordinary text. Many of these don't have precomposed characters in unicode, but you can still make a glyph for them.
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16:19:27 <zzo38> Does the format support ligatures so that you can select glyph in such way?
16:25:51 <b_jonas> zzo38: in theory the TTF/OTF formats do support that, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if \oren\ could actually emit the right TTF/OTF for that. BDF doesn't support that.
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16:56:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Reverse]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51101 * Oerjan * (+21) Redirect
17:01:09 <oerjan> <zzo38> Does the original program works on your computer? <-- nope, thanks
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17:33:33 <\oren\> b_jonas: I plan to figure it out eventually
17:34:37 <b_jonas> \oren\: great! what other font format stuff do you plan to figure out eventually as well? bitmap and graymap fonts in TTF? variant glyphs, including language and writing direction specific ones?
17:34:59 <b_jonas> variable width fonts including kerning?
17:35:55 <b_jonas> the scary (for me) part in figuring out some of this stuff is that you'd have to test the font file with various font rendering backends, many of which only run on particular operating systems
17:36:29 <b_jonas> and that when your font works in one implementation but not the other, you won't get sane error messages
17:36:58 <b_jonas> you need to test the microsoft and adobe software, which you can't easily debug
17:38:23 <\oren\> the main things on my to do list are extra accents, getting indic/arabic shapes to work on all OS's
17:38:57 <b_jonas> oh... so no true bitmap stuff?
17:39:03 <b_jonas> or have you already got that working?
17:40:05 <\oren\> TTF bitmaps seem to only work on Linux for me, and on Linux I can use other formats than TTF
17:40:56 <b_jonas> yeah, I said it was hard to debug
17:41:09 <b_jonas> ok, thanks for the info
17:41:14 <\oren\> specifically, for xterm I just used bdftopcf
17:44:33 <\oren\> currently, the problem I'm attempting to solve is eliminating fontforge from the BDF to TTF conversion process
17:45:07 <b_jonas> oh, also, I'd like a latin letter e with diaresis and acute accent (ë́) (and its uppercase version just in case), which I think the above list doesn't imply
17:45:30 <b_jonas> \oren\: are you using that newfangled font creation library? I dunno what its name is
17:45:43 <\oren\> the current process is I use my own program to do the conversion, then open the resulting TTF in font forge and save it.
17:45:56 <b_jonas> the one that someone started to write when they decided fontforge is so old and complicated it's easier to just rewrite everything
17:46:19 <\oren\> No, my program isn't using any libraries it just does everything the hard way
17:47:06 <\oren\> see http://orenwatson.be/bdf2ttf.c.htm
17:47:15 <b_jonas> I see
17:47:54 <\oren\> It outputs a TTF that isn't quite valid enough for Microsoft
17:48:09 <\oren\> but I'm almost there I think
17:48:12 <b_jonas> (I think it's called TruFont)
17:53:20 <\oren\> On the other hand since it is only designed for my particular font that means I can put a lot of the values directly into the code and it's quite a short program
17:53:39 <b_jonas> yeah
17:56:01 <\oren\> ok so Apple says my hmtx table is crappy.
17:56:18 <\oren\> and I think I know why. It has a length of 81918
17:56:33 <\oren\> which, crucially, doesn't divide by 4
17:57:10 <b_jonas> I don't know what that means, but sure
17:57:37 <\oren\> well TTF uses these 32 bit hashes for validation
17:57:53 <b_jonas> validation? validation of what?
17:58:09 <\oren\> i dunno. data, i guess
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17:59:06 <b_jonas> oh, so now you're hunting down the half a dozen very stupid typos that are in the parts of the code where you wouldn't guess there could be a problem
17:59:51 <\oren\> yeah. I'm not sure what the problem with the hmtx table is, but at least apple is kind enough to tell me WHY they refuse to install my font
18:01:05 <\oren\> the loca table has a length of 83596
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18:06:10 <b_jonas> that's at least nice
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18:09:13 <APic> Hi FreeFull.
18:09:45 <FreeFull> Heya
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18:23:30 <\oren\> hooray, now apple only thinks my name table is bad.
18:28:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Rain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51102&oldid=51096 * Dok * (+596) Adds Factorial and Fibonacci examples
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21:28:18 <\oren\> maybe elon dug his tunnels too greedily, and too deep, and they have discovered that balrogs can be tamed and used to haul cargo into space
21:28:24 <\oren\> Space X announcement is late
21:31:04 <\oren\> and it's not even luxury. compared to proper italian coffee starbucks is like diarhea in a dixie cup
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21:35:01 <fizzie> <fizzie> There's a sign on a fence I see on my commute that says "Danger" and "Deep excavations". I'm worried about a possible balrog threat.
21:35:23 <fizzie> The sign's gone now, incidentally.
21:36:01 <fizzie> But I couldn't go past it a single time without thinking about Balrogs.
21:38:41 <Phantom_Hoover> speaking of balrogs, they released a trailer for the sequel to that shadow of mordor game
21:39:26 <Phantom_Hoover> it looks like an even greater feat of missing the point of lotr than the first one
21:41:05 <shachaf> int-e: And?
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22:04:55 <\oren\> Manned Dragon to do lunar tourist flight!
22:04:57 <\oren\> the spacex flight is with two people
22:05:02 <\oren\> it's rumored to be a couple on their honeymoon
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22:19:48 <\oren\> it will be the first people to go to the moon in 45 years
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22:46:00 <doesthiswork> alice and ralph Kramden?
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23:13:22 <Jafet> perhaps they could call this launcher a cow, instead
23:20:31 <erkin> A cowlauncher
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23:23:36 <zzo38> Implementation of /// with JavaScript: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/slashes.js
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23:25:41 <shachaf> Can I run that in my web browser?
23:27:01 <zzo38> Not as is, but if you replace the input and output, and add a HTML to go with it, then you can.
23:29:06 <zzo38> (If you are on Mozilla then you can also use XUL instead of HTML)
23:29:51 <shachaf> Isn't XUL deprecated?
23:31:19 <zzo38> I still think though there are some things that XUL is better for than HTML is
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