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02:14:25 <shachaf> zzo38: https://plus.google.com/+DanPiponi/posts/5YkEtmtpg8M
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04:42:24 <hppavilion[1]> ...well this is unfortunate: http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Donald_Grump
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09:48:24 <int-e> @tell dtscode I've now fixed lambdabot's problem by adding a permanent IPv6 neighbor entry for the router... it will last until the ISP decides to switch out their router... I still don't understand what's going wrong precisely, though.
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11:25:43 <boily> Gregor: Grellogor. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANANTSINGONYAMABAGITHIBABAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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12:09:37 <boily> `slwd morse//s,/ ..-.,/ .-..,
12:09:40 <HackEgo> morse//-- ..- .-. ... ..- / .-..-. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / ..-. . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- ..
12:12:01 <boily> `slwd morse//s,/ \.\.-\.,/ .../,
12:12:02 <HackEgo> morse//-- ..- .-. ... ..- / --- -. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / .../ . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- ..
12:12:19 <boily> `slwd morse//s,/ \.\.-\.,/ ...-,
12:12:21 <HackEgo> morse//-- ..- .-. ... ..- / --- -. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / ...- . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- ..
12:13:06 <boily> `slwd morse//s,/ -\. ,/ -. .. ,
12:13:08 <HackEgo> morse//-- ..- .-. ... ..- / --- -. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / ...- . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. .. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- ..
12:13:33 <HackEgo> olist//olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
12:13:57 <HackEgo> Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck.
12:14:34 <HackEgo> esoterra:Esoterra is the planet of Esoterrans, also known as Esolangers. The proof of its existence is non-constructive, although some suspect that it is in fact Earth. \ ipa:The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation
12:31:03 <rdococ> What does the sky look like on Esoterra?
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12:35:05 <rdococ> Ooh, what about esoplanets? They're esoteric planets.
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15:54:35 <oerjan> @tell <boily> Gregor: Grellogor. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANANTSINGONYAMABAGITHIBABAAAAAAAAAAAAA! <-- that was remarkably effective, but what does it *mean*?
15:54:46 <oerjan> @tell boily <boily> Gregor: Grellogor. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANANTSINGONYAMABAGITHIBABAAAAAAAAAAAAA! <-- that was remarkably effective, but what does it *mean*?
15:54:57 <oerjan> and of course it should have been @ask
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16:04:07 <rdococ> Heck, who wants me to try writing Snake in brainfuck?
16:06:10 <rdococ> You only program once, I guess.
16:06:41 <rdococ> What limitations should be posed?
16:06:53 <rdococ> e.g. 8-bit, nonwrapping, or something else
16:10:13 <oerjan> 8-bit nonwrapping is good since then it should run "everywhere"
16:10:31 <rdococ> Well, the interpreter I'm using is unbounded, but I will try to stick to that.
16:13:14 <rdococ> my attention span is too short
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16:13:44 <oerjan> right now, mine is too. oh right...
16:13:55 <rdococ> Maybe I should try creating a snake game in some kind of simulated assembly before tackling it in BF.
16:15:31 <rdococ> Lambda calculus it is.
16:15:53 <oerjan> that might not be the easiest to convert to brainfuck, actually.
16:17:47 <rdococ> Honestly, I'm not used to low level technicalities.
16:18:21 <oerjan> well brainfuck is imperative.
16:18:46 <oerjan> and low level technicalities is what esolangs are all about, most of the time.
16:20:42 <oerjan> hm one obvious problem for snake: brainfuck doesn't really have a way to poll for input keys while doing something else
16:21:09 <Zarutian> oerjan: a turn based snake then, eh?
16:21:20 <oerjan> if there is such a thing.
16:30:58 <Zarutian> regarding bf tape space. Is it limited in length usually or?
16:32:48 <oerjan> that depends on implementation. the original had 30000 cells.
16:33:09 <rdococ> If it's unbounded in either number of cells, or cell size, it's a TC implementation.
16:33:36 <oerjan> number of cells is quite a bit more efficient, though.
16:35:14 <rdococ> I imagine having bounded number of cells but unbounded cell size would require multiplication and division routines.
16:36:55 <oerjan> it's exponentially slower, anyway.
16:37:28 <oerjan> minsky machine vs. turing machine
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17:28:20 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 33m 33s ago: <boily> Gregor: Grellogor. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANANTSINGONYAMABAGITHIBABAAAAAAAAAAAAA! <-- that was remarkably effective, but what does it *mean*?
17:28:56 <boily> it may involve a cliff, an extended monkey, and a small lion.
17:29:57 <int-e> @google ANANTSINGONYAMABAGITHIBABA
17:30:07 <int-e> "Showing results for NANTS INGONYAMA BAGITHI BABA"
17:30:36 <int-e> so what boily said
17:31:11 <int-e> Nants ingonyama bagithi baba [Here comes a lion, Father]
17:31:17 <rdococ> Boily is what happens to water when it farts.
17:31:44 <HackEgo> “Only sane adverb” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
17:32:25 <int-e> I wonder how much of that movie I've seen.
17:33:14 * rdococ laughs, because the sentence order setting changed rdococ to OVS as rdococ tried to thwack boily
17:35:33 * boily persists in thwacking rdococ. it's very cathartic!
17:37:48 <rdococ> OVS changed to the sentence order, so in actuality boily is thwacking me.
17:40:16 * oerjan rdococem swattit casibus inescapabilibus latinibus -----###
17:40:55 <rdococ> Sorry, but the SOV sentence order is not using us.
17:41:26 <oerjan> rdococ: the point is that latin doesn't use sentence order to determine who swats who hth
17:41:44 <rdococ> You mean sentence order doesn't use latin to determine who swats who?
17:41:59 <rdococ> Sentence order doesn't use latin to determine who swats who mean you?
17:42:31 <oerjan> `8ball should i ignore or ban rdococ?
17:42:52 <rdococ> `8ball Should rdococ ignore or ban oerjan?
17:43:03 <rdococ> Remember, OVS word order :P
17:43:40 <rdococ> Fine, if you don't like me being around, I'll leave.
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17:44:09 <oerjan> increasing blood sugar ->
17:51:11 <boily> oerjan: what are you drinking and/or injecting and/or imbibing?
17:54:28 <int-e> maybe he's just breaking up some glycogen
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17:58:17 <boily> maybe some eventyrbrus?
17:59:49 <oerjan> nope. bread with strawberry jam.
17:59:57 <oerjan> also some coke but it was sugar free.
18:06:51 <boily> \oren\: he\\oren\. could you add foodstuff to your font please?
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18:16:14 <int-e> fungot's been quiet lately...
18:16:14 <fungot> int-e: advice for riastradh
18:17:24 <int-e> fungot: do you think Trump will have better luck with his tax reform?
18:17:24 <fungot> int-e: you mean you eat meat? might want to check out
18:17:32 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
18:17:54 <boily> meat is good. offal is better.
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18:20:20 <boily> `relcome lezsakdomi
18:20:21 <HackEgo> lezsakdomi: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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20:23:28 <Taneb> Not sure the thing I am trying to do is possible aaaaaaah
20:23:44 <Taneb> This is not fun because this is a large proportion of my master's thesis
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20:24:33 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa, Taneb is going to be a master?
20:24:53 <Taneb> shachaf, that is the intention
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20:26:09 <shachaf> make sure to pay attention to the formatting of your bibliography
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20:26:19 <Taneb> Thank you for the advice
20:26:32 <shachaf> just trying to help you out with your snake
20:26:44 <shachaf> poisonous snakes are not fun
20:29:00 <Taneb> The snake is the easy bit
20:29:10 <Taneb> I am after all half Australian
20:29:49 <shachaf> Half Australian, half Dutch, and half British? Any other halves?
20:30:03 <shachaf> Is British a thing you can be?
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20:30:45 <Taneb> My Australian side is 100% Dutch
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20:32:32 * rdococ wonders if anyone has seen my interpreter for Zeno yet
20:47:56 <rdococ> But I do know Deutsch is German for German, and not Dutch for Dutch.
20:48:39 <rdococ> I'm going to create a language where "Espanol" refers to Esperanto.
20:49:09 <rdococ> And <c> is probably /c/ or /d3/
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21:06:09 <zzo38> One RoboRosewater card is "At the beginning of your upkeep, you may skip your next end step." Do you like this or other idea of it?
21:07:45 <zzo38> Avoid triggering stuff that triggers during end step, and if opponent plays something at the end of your turn you will now still be able to play further sorceries and permanent spells after opponent plays, before your turn is finish.
21:08:20 <shachaf> Ah, I like the second one.
21:23:29 <zzo38> None of the people who commented on it on Twitter mentioned this second thing, and many of them even misunderstood what it meant (confusing it with the cleanup step and with the ending phase).
21:24:31 <erkin> rdococ: Official Office of Official Officacies recommends the use of Z for ʒ when limited to ASCII.
21:24:50 <shachaf> But you don't get priority in the cleanup step, and it can't be skipped as far as I know.
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21:28:19 <zzo38> That is correct. (In some cases it is possible to get priority in the cleanup step, but usually you don't. One way this can happen is by discarding a card with madness when discarding for hand size. In some cases a creature (and any Auras attached to it) may die during a cleanup step; these permanents die as a state-based action, so you get priority in that case too.)
21:29:02 <shachaf> Gain priority until end of turn.
21:30:19 <zzo38> "Gain priority until end of turn" is meaningless I think; it is not a continuous effect (but, you can make up Un-cards with such thing and confuse you!)
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21:31:34 <zzo38> Actually, I can think of some cases where an Aura can die during the cleanup step even though the permanent it is attached to does not die, such as using a Aura that says "enchant creature" on a Vehicle.
21:32:36 <Vorpal> anyone seen ais523 recently?
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21:56:24 <int-e> about four days ago, he mentioned a 50 language polyglot
21:57:37 <zzo38> shachaf: You posted earlier about changing a code with GOTO to a code without; I read it, and actually I have thought of a similar thing. JavaScript has this restriction (and I thought of how to do it in JavaScript), and so do even some binary formats.
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21:58:45 <zzo38> (Such as Hamster Speak bytecode and WebAssembly)
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22:07:57 <HackEgo> 1212) <impomatic_> TIL I can buy Baklava over the internet! I never need to leave the house again...
22:07:59 <HackEgo> tarafurnar//Tarafurnar is the event after which you'll be seen.
22:08:00 <HackEgo> ugar and pepper. Stir in the \ flour, baking soda and pepper. Stir together, salt, and let place for \ about 10 minutes. \ \ Add the beans and salt in a large skillet, in the remaining oil. Add the chocolate mixture \ and set aside. Carefully stir in the soup with the cilantro. Pour batter \ or serving time in the top bowl. \ \ Place rema
22:08:27 <Vorpal> zzo38, well, you can re-write any code using goto to not use it. Languages without goto are TC after all.
22:10:12 <HackEgo> https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/scheme
22:14:00 <wob_jonas> zzo38: skipping your end *phase* would be un-territory, Topsy Turvy does that. Skipping your end *step* is ok I think, and there's a few cards that can do that now: Time Stop, Sundial of the Infinite.
22:16:08 <wob_jonas> I think it's an effect somewhat similar to skipping your upkeep, which Eon Hub about three other cards can do.
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22:20:39 <zzo38> Yes, I did not say skipping your end step is no good; skipping your end step will be OK and yes those two cards will do that too. They still don't do the second thing I mentioned that "At the beginning of your upkeep, you may skip your next end step" would do. Skipping your ending phase does include cleanup step and so that does make it dirty.
22:21:06 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ exec perl '-ne/Scheme$/&&push@p,$p;$p=$_}{print$p[rand@p]' share/mtg/allsets.txt
22:21:22 <Jafet> `file share/mtg/allsets.txt
22:21:23 <HackEgo> share/mtg/allsets.txt: symbolic link to allsets-2016-07-23.zip
22:21:39 <Jafet> `` file $(readlink share/mtg/allsets.txt)
22:21:40 <HackEgo> allsets-2016-07-23.zip: cannot open `allsets-2016-07-23.zip' (No such file or directory)
22:21:47 <wob_jonas> As cards are now often written as whatever that new O-ring is rather than like the original O-ring and J-nowhere, there's fewer things happening in the end step anyway.
22:21:55 <Jafet> `` cd share/mtg && file $(readlink allsets.txt)
22:21:56 <HackEgo> allsets-2016-07-23.zip: ISO-8859 text, with very long lines
22:22:46 <wob_jonas> No wait, sorry, O-ring and Banishing Light have nothign to do with the end step
22:24:17 <wob_jonas> Is there a Banishing Light template version of Otherworldly Journey or of Turn to Mist yet?
22:26:09 <wob_jonas> I guess there's no need for an updated template there. The main reason for Banishing Light was to change what happens if Oblivion Ring leaves tbf before the enter trigger resolves.
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