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00:05:15 <fizzie> 44 floppies later, 4 could not be read at all, and 7 had some amount of read errors.
00:07:09 * oerjan put on laundry way too late...
00:07:21 <oerjan> @messages-sold
00:07:21 <lambdabot> hppavilion[1] said 4h 17m 50s ago: <oerjan (via lambdabot)> also welcome.es is longer than most welcomes, there is simply no room for colors. <-- Yeah, I figured that out
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00:29:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/patrol]] patrol * Oerjan * marked revision 51393 of [[File:Emoji-gramming.png]] patrolled
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00:51:53 <oerjan> <shachaf> the traditional phrase is "do you like this?", not "what do you think of this" <-- neither those are good phrases for getting my comment, anyway - too amortized.
00:52:05 <shachaf> `? amortized
00:52:06 <HackEgo> An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember.
00:52:18 <shachaf> You can never remember those phrases?
00:52:39 <oerjan> i put amortized when i cannot remember the actual word, out of spite hth
00:52:53 <oerjan> sometimes that makes me remember the actual word.
00:53:08 <oerjan> *neither of
00:55:17 <oerjan> i think this may be a concept my subconscious is afraid of, and therefore refuses to let me remember the word for.
00:58:19 <oerjan> i think the word might be "committing", or something close.
01:00:33 <shachaf> oerjan: Anyway I said it because Jafet "do you like this?"ed me the other day.
01:02:15 <oerjan> okay
01:03:31 <shachaf> that's a very lowercase okay
01:03:49 <shachaf> `? oerjan
01:03:50 <HackEgo> Your omnipotent principal tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
01:03:51 <oerjan> shocking
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01:15:42 <oerjan> `quote [^o]ffee
01:15:43 <HackEgo> No output.
01:15:52 <oerjan> `grwp [^o]ffee
01:15:59 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
01:16:14 <oerjan> `quote Ffee
01:16:15 <HackEgo> 28) <ehird> is there a problem with it being carbonized :D <augur> yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" \ 456) <itidus20> like i could ask how many "petals" are there on each of the "flowers" on this coffee mug i just made a drink with <itidus20> but that would be NP hard I think \ 1219) <Dulnes> Anyways i actually do
01:16:21 <oerjan> argh
01:16:33 <oerjan> `grwp Ffee
01:16:34 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
01:24:42 <augur> it true, you know
01:30:51 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ <\oren\> what. why URL country codes"? <-- because i've sometimes updated common information in them, and it was getting awkward to find all of them when they were named in the same language.
01:30:51 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:31:28 <shachaf> `forget reflection
01:31:30 <HackEgo> Forget what?
01:31:46 <oerjan> wat
01:32:05 <oerjan> `` ls -l wisdom/reflection
01:32:06 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wisdom/reflection: No such file or directory
01:32:09 <oerjan> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
01:32:27 <shachaf> `grwp reflection
01:32:28 <HackEgo> No output.
01:32:44 <oerjan> an age is over
01:32:58 <oerjan> a slightly annoying age, but nevertheless.
01:33:17 <shachaf> `dowt reflection
01:33:25 <HackEgo> 5501:2015-06-09 <tsweẗt> ` ln -s /proc/self/cmdline wisdom/reflection \ 10245:2017-02-14 <int-̈e> learn_append reflection Does this shatter the mirror? \ 10246:2017-02-14 <int-̈e> revert \ 10498:2017-03-24 <shachäf> forget reflection
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01:33:57 <oerjan> bohily
01:34:31 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel without reflections. Or long-lived topics. | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive phở testing, use #esoteric-blah.
01:35:48 <boily> hellørjan. we're missing reflections?
01:36:28 <oerjan> shachaf has eradicated them
01:39:05 <boily> good thing. reflection is bad, but I'm stuck with it in Java because stupid type erasure.
01:39:11 * boily grumbles mumbles
01:42:24 <boily> also, finished third in tonight's game because that guy tsumo'ed on a kantan 5 wait, riichi nomi, then what do you know he flips ura and gets 3 dora.
01:42:46 * boily rants and plein d'affaires de même. tsé.
01:50:46 <quintopia> helloilky
01:51:29 <quintopia> i am so lost. mah jong sounds hard
01:55:22 <boily> quinthelkopia! mahjong is quite easy, it's just the vocabulary that's a little bit hermetic >_>'...
01:56:14 <quintopia> does it go good with canadian beer
01:56:21 <quintopia> i bet i would like canadian beer
01:56:31 <boily> incidentally I was drinking a Bleue.
01:56:37 <boily> and you need Canadian beer all right.
01:57:06 <quintopia> i wonder how some might be obtained
01:57:32 <boily> by mail, in a very dubiously wrapped package. good thing I had electric tape on hand.
01:57:56 <quintopia> lol that should easily recognizable
01:58:29 <boily> time to reconcile a pillow.
01:58:34 <boily> bonnuitopia!
01:58:36 <quintopia> bonne nuily
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03:28:40 <shachaf> `relcome IronY
03:28:41 <HackEgo> IronY: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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04:18:09 <pikhq_> @metar KAFF
04:18:09 <lambdabot> KAFF 240409Z AUTO 35034G51KT 10SM -RA SCT016 BKN110 11/00 A2960 RMK AO2 RAB09
04:18:18 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
04:18:18 <lambdabot> KOAK 240353Z 24005KT 10SM FEW045 SCT085 BKN100 BKN150 13/07 A3024 RMK AO2 SLP238 T01330072
04:18:20 <shachaf> @metar KSJC
04:18:20 <lambdabot> KSJC 240353Z 32007KT 10SM FEW010 SCT090 BKN110 12/06 A3024 RMK AO2 SLP238 T01220056
04:18:22 <pikhq_> Yep, 51 knot gusts checks out.
04:18:36 <pikhq_> ... Is KOAK not an automated station?
04:18:54 <shachaf> ?
04:19:19 <pikhq_> I thought AUTO was how you indicated the weather station was automated or not.
04:20:00 <shachaf> @metar KSFO
04:20:00 <lambdabot> KSFO 240356Z 12005KT 10SM FEW046 BKN090 BKN110 13/06 A3023 RMK AO2 SLP235 T01280061 $
04:20:06 <shachaf> @metar KSAN
04:20:06 <lambdabot> KSAN 240351Z 30005KT 10SM FEW025 15/07 A3023 RMK AO2 SLP236 T01500072
04:20:08 <shachaf> @metar KSEA
04:20:08 <lambdabot> KSEA 240353Z 30003KT 9SM -RA BKN044 OVC050 08/06 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP132 P0002 T00780061
04:20:10 <pikhq_> Hrm, guess not.
04:20:11 <shachaf> `? weather
04:20:12 <HackEgo> lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK PAMR
04:20:15 <lambdabot> CYUL 240400Z 22008KT 15SM BKN120 OVC160 M01/M10 A3042 RMK AC6AC2 SLP305 \ ENVA 240350Z 09006KT 9999 FEW040 M01/M05 Q1021 RMK WIND 670FT 19013KT \ ESSB 240350Z AUTO 24002KT 9999 SCT066/// M05/M07
04:20:15 <lambdabot> Q1025 \ KOAK 240353Z 24005KT 10SM FEW045 SCT085 BKN100 BKN150 13/07 A3024 RMK AO2 SLP238 T01330072 \ PAMR 240353Z 00000KT 10SM CLR M03/M09 A2980 RMK AO2 SLP094 T10331089
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04:27:36 <adu> fizzie: floppies?!?!? I remember those
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10:44:50 <boily> `wisdom
10:44:52 <HackEgo> hexham//Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico
10:45:09 <boily> `cwlprits hexham
10:45:17 <HackEgo> ellioẗt Tanëb ellioẗt oerjän oerjän
10:55:52 <boily> `wisdom
10:55:53 <HackEgo> the five wisdoms//The first of the five wisdoms is that there is only one wisdom.
10:56:04 <boily> `? second wisdom
10:56:05 <HackEgo> The second wisdom is that wisdom can never be complete or consistent.
10:56:10 <boily> `? third wisdom
10:56:11 <HackEgo> third wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:56:19 <boily> `? fourth wisdom
10:56:20 <HackEgo> fourth wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:56:22 <boily> ...
10:56:26 <boily> `? fifth wisdom
10:56:27 <HackEgo> fifth wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:56:33 <boily> `? sixth wisdom
10:56:34 <HackEgo> sixth wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:57:36 <boily> `? le/rn forth wisdom//.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom forth The
10:57:37 <HackEgo> le/rn forth wisdom//.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom forth The? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:57:58 <boily> ...
10:58:15 * boily slaps himself awake
10:58:20 <boily> `le/rn forth wisdom//.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom forth The
10:58:23 <HackEgo> Learned 'forth wisdom': .wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom forth The
11:02:02 <boily> `wisdom
11:02:03 <HackEgo> monoidal category//Monoidal categories are just 2-categories with a single object.
11:02:25 <boily> and monads are the powerhouse of the category.
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11:30:15 <b_jonas> `? gauss
11:30:16 <HackEgo> gauss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:33:23 <Jafet> `? rpn
11:33:23 <HackEgo> rpn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:33:31 <Jafet> `grwp reverse
11:33:32 <HackEgo> codensity:Codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. \ coptology:Coptology is comprised of coptanalysis and coptography. Coptanalysis is concerned with the disassembly and reverse engineering of copters, whereas coptography is the art of designing and engineering copters that are robust against coptanalysis. \ postorder:Postord
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11:46:44 <Jafet> `? forth
11:46:45 <HackEgo> Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication.
11:49:22 * Zarutian approoves!
11:58:54 <int-e> `grwp log table
11:58:56 <HackEgo> No output.
12:04:30 <int-e> `quote adder
12:04:31 <HackEgo> No output.
12:04:42 <int-e> `quote
12:04:43 <HackEgo> 385) <SgeoN1> No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse.
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12:26:58 <b_jonas> `quote
12:26:59 <HackEgo> 43) <apollo> Maternal instincts? <apollo> Don't you just leave the thing in a box until it starts crying, and then shake it until it stops?
12:27:11 <Phantom_Hoover> that Sgeo quote is a classic
12:27:34 <b_jonas> `quote
12:27:34 <HackEgo> 41) <ehird> no Deewiant <Deewiant> No?! <Deewiant> I've been living a lie <ehird> yep. <Deewiant> Excuse me while I jump out of the window ->
12:27:55 <b_jonas> `recipe
12:27:56 <HackEgo> eat the oil \ over low heat until the sugar is frown cooking. Remove the shanks \ over the dough. Serve with remaining sauce. Place them into a mixing \ cold water at the stir in fork. Serve with the salads, table spoonfuls. Keep \ begins to add the boiling water and set the eggplants, dip off a \ few seconds. \ \ Makes about 2 Tablespoons
12:27:56 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:27:57 <HackEgo> sand//Sand is what microprocessors are made of. Taneb invented it.
12:28:05 <b_jonas> eat the oil?
12:28:45 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:28:46 <HackEgo> blæg//Blæg is a color that cannot exist under the current understanding of physics. It is used on the #esoteric flag, along with ultraviolet and whatever is convenient. It is a nullary color, meaning that it can be mixed with itself to produce the primary colors.
12:29:15 <Phantom_Hoover> that sand thing is untrue
12:29:34 <Phantom_Hoover> commercial silicon production is mostly from iron-silicon alloy
12:30:05 <int-e> oh dual use
12:31:05 <int-e> "Ferrosilicon is produced by reduction of silica or sand with coke in the presence of iron." ... sand may still be involved?!
12:31:27 <Phantom_Hoover> welp
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12:36:20 <b_jonas> Phantom_Hoover: it was true back in ancient time, when the Cult of the Bound Variable is conjectured to have made "a city-sized machine powered by falling sand" called the Universal Machine.
12:37:00 <Jafet> I thought silicon for microprocessors was mined from silicon crystal veins
12:38:20 <int-e> `grwp alternative
12:38:21 <HackEgo> delve:Delve is a static ability that functions while the spell with delve is on the stack. "Delve" means "For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana." The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve i
12:38:57 <b_jonas> convoke is not an alternative cost either.
12:39:49 <int-e> `forget delve
12:39:51 <HackEgo> Forget what?
12:41:34 <b_jonas> `? ../bin/forget
12:41:35 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ rm-p "wisdom/$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z)" \ echo "Forget what?"
12:41:48 <b_jonas> `? ../bin/noooodl
12:41:49 <HackEgo> ​../bin/noooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:41:52 <b_jonas> `? ../bin/nooodl
12:41:53 <HackEgo> ​../bin/noooooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:42:02 <b_jonas> `? ../bin/noodl
12:42:03 <HackEgo> ​../bin/noodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:42:10 <b_jonas> hmm
12:42:23 <int-e> I think you're missing an 'r'
12:42:31 <int-e> `` cd bin; echo *noo*
12:42:32 <HackEgo> noooooooodl: rnooooooooodl
12:42:38 <int-e> or not.
12:43:55 <int-e> `` cd bin; echo *noo* | tr o x
12:43:56 <HackEgo> nxxxdl: rnxxxdl
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14:34:55 <oerjan> `? forth wisdom
14:34:56 <HackEgo> ​.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom forth The
14:35:01 <oerjan> `? fourth wisdom
14:35:02 <HackEgo> fourth wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:35:53 <oerjan> `` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth; slwd fourth\ wisdom//s,rt,urt,
14:35:55 <HackEgo> Roswbud!
14:36:14 <oerjan> `? fourth wisdom
14:36:15 <HackEgo> fourth wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:36:28 <oerjan> `` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth\ wisdom; slwd fourth\ wisdom//s,rt,urt,
14:36:30 <HackEgo> fourth wisdom//.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom fourth The
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14:43:16 <oerjan> `cat bin/nooodl:
14:43:17 <HackEgo> ​ELF............>.....…@.....@.......(s..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø....................8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....¼d......¼d........ ............n......n`.....n`.....$......ð........ ...........(n......(n`.....(n`.....Ð.......Ð................
14:43:25 <oerjan> `` ls -l bin/nooodl
14:43:26 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin/nooodl: No such file or directory
14:43:29 <oerjan> `` ls -l bin/nooodl:
14:43:30 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Oct 28 18:37 bin/nooooooodl: -> /bin/echo
14:43:55 <oerjan> `doag bin/nooodl:
14:44:03 <HackEgo> 2787:2013-04-23 <noood̈l> ln -s /bin/echo bin/nooodl:
14:49:25 <zgrepc> `` cat `which doag`
14:49:25 <HackEgo> hlnp --removed --template "{rev}:{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@"
14:49:44 <zgrepc> `` cat `which hlnp`
14:49:45 <HackEgo> scowrevs="$(/usr/bin/paste -sd'|' /hackenv/share/scowrevs)"; hg log -r "tip:0 & ! ($scowrevs)" "$@" | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
14:53:47 <oerjan> `` hg log --removed --template "{rev}:{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- bin/nooodl:
14:53:54 <HackEgo> 9075:2016-09-25 <fizzie> revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 9074:2016-09-25 <jeffl35> ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 5643:2015-06-21 <tswett> revert \ 5642:2015-06-21 <tswett> rm bin -r \ 4531:2014-03-16 <oerjan> revert \ 4530:2014-03-16 <elliott> revert 1 \ 2787:2013-04-23 <noooooodl> ln -s /bin/echo bin/noooooooodl:
14:54:08 <oerjan> wat
14:54:23 <oerjan> oh of course
14:54:46 * oerjan should have kept the sed
14:54:57 <oerjan> `doag bin/nooodl:
14:55:04 <HackEgo> 2787:2013-04-23 <noood̈l> ln -s /bin/echo bin/nooodl:
14:55:19 <oerjan> i don't think the full version is much slower
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15:53:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51398&oldid=40209 * Oerjan * (+21) Mediawiki at one point changed this, which messed up a lot of my old nice formatting. Let's see if this makes it sane again.
15:53:50 <oerjan> yay it worked
15:54:08 * oerjan is still a bit miffed about <code> having borders, but...
15:59:59 <int-e> wait, isn't <pre> supposed to respect newlines?
16:00:26 <oerjan> yes. it still does that.
16:01:03 <oerjan> it's just, it's not supposed to wrap on other whitespace, but Mediawiki's default does so anyhow
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16:02:40 <int-e> (looking at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Unlambda#Combinators and the code is all on one line here
16:02:52 <int-e> )
16:03:10 <int-e> in a box, with a horizontal scrollbar
16:04:05 <oerjan> oh god, it shows differently in preview than in final formatting D:
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16:04:50 <oerjan> it looked nice in preview
16:05:00 <int-e> oerjan: didn't you mean pre rather than nowrap?
16:05:33 <oerjan> ah maybe so.
16:06:00 <int-e> (sorry for first complaining and then looking for the cause)
16:06:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51399&oldid=51398 * Oerjan * (-3) Apparently that was wrong, but *somehow* looked nice in preview.
16:06:36 <oerjan> eh that didn't help.
16:06:51 <int-e> cache?
16:06:53 <oerjan> oh there it did
16:07:00 <oerjan> i was using ctrl-f5.
16:07:08 <oerjan> but i had to it twice for some reason.
16:07:34 <int-e> ah, there, yay!
16:08:33 <int-e> @hug oerjan
16:08:33 <lambdabot> https://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug
16:08:58 <oerjan> useful command, that
16:10:06 <int-e> in any case by "cache" I meant that wikimedia might be caching something there
16:10:36 <int-e> which is a bit difficult to test
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16:20:06 <int-e> @google lambdabot
16:20:07 <lambdabot> Plugin `search' failed with: connect: does not exist (No route to host)
16:20:20 <int-e> @google lambdabot
16:20:21 <lambdabot> https://wiki.haskell.org/Lambdabot
16:20:46 <int-e> ideas why this happens would be welcome
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16:22:03 <int-e> (nameservers are and, so Google's, hmm)
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16:28:46 <rdococ> Google
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16:31:50 <dtscode> int-e: my guess is something fails somewhere down the line
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16:53:02 <hppavilion[1]> I only yesterday discovered that I can unprint a line in Python using a \r
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16:53:36 <hppavilion[1]> If I don't advance to a new line, I can overwrite the current line indefinitely (which is good for command-line downloaders, because I can make it print the percentage completed)
16:54:09 <hppavilion[1]> But is there a way to make the cursor go backwards? A reverse of \n, if you will?
16:54:51 <hppavilion[1]> (I'm guessing \b can do it)
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16:57:35 <rdococ> pianos.
17:01:24 <b_jonas> wow. this html webpage actually has multiple elements with the same id attribute.
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17:17:40 <\oren\> @tell hppavilion[1] you can move around the screen freely with ANSI escape sequences
17:17:41 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
17:18:41 <\oren\> @bing lambdabot
17:18:41 <lambdabot> pong
17:18:47 <\oren\> tdnh
17:18:55 <\oren\> @duckduckgo lambdabot
17:18:55 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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17:28:49 <Jafet> @yahoo lambdabot
17:28:49 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
17:28:54 <Jafet> @yahoogle lambdabot
17:28:55 <lambdabot> package lambdabot
17:28:55 <lambdabot> package lambdabot-core
17:28:55 <lambdabot> package lambdabot-reference-plugins
17:30:28 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, I'm looking at https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%B8nnes
17:30:40 <hppavilion[1]> And I noticed this line: "Fra Wikipedia, den frie encyklopedi"
17:30:43 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-lud
17:30:43 <lambdabot> \oren\ said 13m 2s ago: you can move around the screen freely with ANSI escape sequences
17:30:49 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: tyvm
17:33:52 <hppavilion[1]> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unintended-consequences is confusing me
17:35:49 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( There should be a command line tool to generate image macros )
17:37:36 <hppavilion[1]> Example: meme xx "make memes" "use a command-line to generate them in bash"
17:38:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Collatz function]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51400&oldid=43075 * Oerjan * (+6688) Major new section about reduction to [[cyclic tag system]]s inspired by [[User:Challenger5]]'s inquiry. Some rearrangements.
17:38:52 <oerjan> whee
17:40:25 <oerjan> . o O ( encyklopedi sounds pretty old-fashioned to me )
17:45:16 <hppavilion[1]> Gragh
17:45:34 <hppavilion[1]> My school censors the internet
17:45:44 <oerjan> shocking
17:45:49 <hppavilion[1]> And it doesn't block the website KnowYourMeme, but it blocks the domain of one of the stylesheets
17:45:52 <rdococ>
17:45:55 <hppavilion[1]> So the page loads, but is missing important parts
17:46:04 <hppavilion[1]> The URL of the stylesheet is a.kym-cdn.com/assets/application-e15fbd68366e7b708bee633fb97d103c.css
17:46:35 <hppavilion[1]> If I could get my hands on that from another source (exempli gratia Pastebin), there might be a way to horribly hack my cache so the site will load
17:47:01 <rdococ> In my experience, teachers know nothing about computers. They will happily use Windows and IE, and don't know how to turn off Youtube's autoplay.
17:48:49 <hppavilion[1]> rdococ: I know
17:48:58 <hppavilion[1]> rdococ: Step 1 is to obtain the stylesheet.
17:49:21 <int-e> Wee, so many ARP packets. But the failed @google are RST packets on the initial TCP handshake. So... nothing I can do about that? Sigh.
17:49:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Cyclic tag system]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51401&oldid=41979 * Oerjan * (+267) Marketing
17:50:01 <hppavilion[1]> rdococ: ...I'm trying to hintily ask someone to open a.kym-cdn.com/assets/application-e15fbd68366e7b708bee633fb97d103c.css and pastebin the content
17:50:11 <hppavilion[1]> And now I'm leaving.
17:51:13 <rdococ> oh
17:51:17 <rdococ> derp
17:51:29 <rdococ> hppavilion[1]
17:51:35 <oerjan> `fetch /tmp/yo http://a.kym-cdn.com/assets/application-e15fbd68366e7b708bee633fb97d103c.css
17:51:36 <HackEgo> In another world: /tmp/yo
17:51:44 <oerjan> `fetch tmp/yo http://a.kym-cdn.com/assets/application-e15fbd68366e7b708bee633fb97d103c.css
17:51:48 <HackEgo> 2017-03-24 17:51:39 URL:http://a.kym-cdn.com/assets/application-e15fbd68366e7b708bee633fb97d103c.css [86548/86548] -> "tmp/yo" [1]
17:51:55 <oerjan> `url tmp/yo
17:51:55 <int-e> (I've captured 771 ARP packets over a time frame of 10 seconds. That seems a bit excessive.)
17:51:56 <HackEgo> https://hackego.esolangs.org/tmp/yo
17:52:03 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: ^ yo
17:52:24 <rdococ> http://pastebin.com/v3C0gF0m
17:52:28 <rdococ> or that
17:52:37 <rdococ> well, looks like hppavilion[1] is gone
17:52:38 <rdococ> :c
17:52:40 <oerjan> `` head -1 tmp/yo
17:52:41 <HackEgo> ​@charset "UTF-8";html,body,header,hgroup,nav,article,section,details,aside,footer,div,span,applet,object,iframe,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,p,blockquote,pre,a,abbr,acronym,address,big,cite,code,del,dfn,em,font,img,ins,kbd,q,s,samp,small,strike,strong,sub,sup,tt,var,b,u,i,center,dl,dt,dd,ol,ul,li,fieldset,form,label,legend,table,caption,tbody,tfoot,thead,t
17:52:52 <rdococ> message to the school: duck all schools
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17:55:02 <rdococ> -o-
17:56:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Cyclic tag system]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51402&oldid=51401 * Oerjan * (+37) /* Computational class */ not to mention
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18:09:12 <rdococ> <HackEgo> https://hackego.esolangs.org/tmp/yo
18:09:19 <rdococ> hp
18:11:20 <hppavilion[1]> rdococ: ty, now to figure out how to force it into the site
18:13:39 <hppavilion[1]> OK, now, does anybody know of a way to override a URL, either in the browser or on an OS level
18:14:12 <hppavilion[1]> OK, found an extension that might work
18:19:41 <rdococ> hipavillion[1], HackEllo
18:24:19 <int-e> I guess I'll try to disable IPv6 for lambdabot and see whether that helps... but first, shopping.
18:36:01 <rdococ> hipavilion[1], hint-e: what do you think when you hear the word positronium?
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18:54:01 <int-e> rdococ: science fiction technobabble
18:54:37 <rdococ> yes, but I'd like it to be functional magic
18:54:39 <rdococ> something with rules
18:54:50 <rdococ> what will these, "positronium crystals", behave like?
18:55:02 <rdococ> granted they'd probably annihilate themselves but shhh
19:00:22 <\oren\> positronium? sounds like the antimatter equivalent of an electron gas
19:01:35 <rdococ> but as a crystal, what do you think it would be?
19:01:52 <rdococ> I'm creating a mod for a better, open-source version of Minecraft, called Minetest.
19:03:02 <rdococ> It'll be found in SPACE! (space space space space)
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19:13:27 <hppavilion[1]> It is REALLY hard to find blank memes.
19:13:41 <hppavilion[1]> People must be thinking I'm saying "Dank"
19:14:25 <rdococ> ik a good blank meme
19:14:27 <rdococ> space
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19:43:19 <int-e> meh. sorry for that; apparently /reconnect does *not* take changed ssl settings into account.
19:53:46 <int-e> dtscode: FWIW, it's actually a problem in the bot... apparently it can't even wait for one second for the connection to be established. It takes that long because for some reason that I don't understand, the IPv6 neighbour discovery starts with the link-local scope address as source before asking on the global level.
19:54:48 <dtscode> ah
19:54:52 <dtscode> haskell man
19:54:52 <dtscode> not even once
19:56:06 <int-e> I'm not sure that it's Haskell's fault :P
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20:05:26 <shapr> mmm, haskell
20:05:29 <shapr> dtscode: you're missing out
20:06:09 <dtscode> I'd much rather write a nice bash script
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20:41:17 <fizzie> Good tips on extracting data from a disk drive when reading from the drive causes the machine to instantly reboot?
20:41:23 <fizzie> The drive identifies to the system well enough, and I can read the partition table, and even a few blocks of data (dd bs=512 count=1024), but whenever I tell it to read anything much, it reboots.
20:41:52 <fizzie> I've got two drives that behave like this, both 2.5" IDE ones using an adapter for the normal 3.5" IDE connector.
20:42:05 <fizzie> A third drive using the same adapter I could read with dd just fine.
20:42:48 <fizzie> I thought about trying to use hdparm to downgrade it to some less efficient transfer mode, but it doesn't respect the -d flag for disabling DMA.
20:45:15 <fizzie> I wonder if I could use dd | pv | dd to make a "slow copy", and if that would really help matters.
20:46:55 <shachaf> Did you know FreeBSD has a SIGINFO signal that you can send to programs like cp to get progress information?
20:47:10 <shachaf> With ^T apparently.
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20:53:27 <fizzie> Apparently the answer is "no" to dd | pv | dd. (Instant reboot.)
20:53:35 <fizzie> I know dd prints progress info on SIGUSR1.
20:53:59 <fizzie> Having it widely available and with a key sounds clever.
20:56:38 <shapr> fizzie: you use pv
20:56:43 <shapr> oh, nm
21:00:31 <fizzie> It's a little hard to diagnose a thing that causes an instant reboot.
21:07:10 <shachaf> fizzie: Another thing you could do is have all long-running programs run HTTP servers that you can get information from.
21:07:48 <fizzie> shachaf: I spent a couple seconds wondering how on earth that would help with my hard disk problems.
21:08:20 <shachaf> Did you know there's a program that will print status information about running cp etc. processes?
21:09:00 <shachaf> It uses /proc/n/fdinfo to see how far they are into their file descriptors.
21:09:09 <shachaf> Well, I guess for cp you don't even need that, you can just look at the target file.
21:11:46 <shachaf> I think I'm thinking of this program: https://github.com/Xfennec/progress
21:32:21 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFlwc9Kl5o <- Touhou Opera
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22:07:30 <boily> `wisdom
22:09:23 <rdococ> Wisdom is magic.
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22:16:13 <boily> `?
22:16:57 <rdococ> ? is punctuation.
22:18:19 <int-e> dtscode: So actually I have just reproduced this with C code :-/ Which means that the kernel reports this as an unreachable host.
22:18:39 <rdococ> Reproduce it with pronounceable cee.
22:18:45 <int-e> so much fun.
22:18:51 <dtscode> the haskell code fucked with the kernel?
22:19:03 <int-e> dtscode: that's silly.
22:19:17 <dtscode> i'm going to keep blaming haskell because it scares me
22:19:55 <boily> there's nothing to be feared about Haskell. C++ on the other hand...
22:20:04 <dtscode> see I like C++
22:20:10 <dtscode> as long as I don't get into TMP
22:20:40 <int-e> boily: psst, unsafeCoerce, hush.
22:21:02 <dtscode> int-e: what kind of kernel is it?
22:21:07 <dtscode> linux?
22:21:20 <boily> int-ello. modulo that minor inconsequential detail.
22:21:52 <int-e> hmm, 3.16.0. Debian.
22:22:02 <dtscode> maybe a driver issue?
22:22:21 <int-e> boily: also, tracking down insufficient laziness
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22:22:51 <int-e> that said, C++ doesn't even offer the assurances that unsafeCoerce breaks :)
22:23:22 <shachaf> Which assurances?
22:23:30 <int-e> type safety
22:23:39 <shachaf> C++ has all sorts of type safety.
22:24:39 <rdococ> 0/10 Too safe.
22:25:03 <shachaf> rdococ: Why do you do the things you do?
22:25:25 * int-e tries to remember the last time that rdococ said anything of interest, but fails.
22:26:00 * dtscode tries to remember, but fails
22:29:22 <rdococ> Anything of interest.
22:29:25 <rdococ> There, I said it.
22:34:53 * boily bores rdococ
22:35:45 <dtscode> we should all just start writing everything in bash
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22:55:54 <boily> that may not be the reasonablest choice...
22:56:05 <boily> I say, write everything in Java!
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22:57:36 <zzo38> I think different program language can be use for different thing, such as assembly language, C, JavaScript, Forth, etc
22:57:47 <zzo38> There is also the domain specific programming
22:58:00 <shachaf> I think different program language can be use for same thing
22:58:53 <zzo38> That too can be done yes
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23:55:57 <quintopia> ?
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