2017-04-30 - freenode:#esoteric

00:26:13 <shachaf> Like what, the fact that today you played GURPS game a second time?

00:31:31 <zzo38> Then you must learn. My character is named Ziveruskex and his friend is Strixan and then there is also Bob and also Domag who is a priest and is also very strong and is good at fighting with a sword. (My own character is fight by shield.)

00:32:44 <shachaf> I had a smiter in Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction who did that.

00:49:24 <zzo38> It is a good thing that I had a shield and had chosen to defend on one turn, because those two things together made the important difference to be able to successfully defend against an opponent's attack with a sword.

00:57:07 <boily> hezzo38. I was wandering on the Wikipédia, and fell on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanttulaatikko

00:58:55 <shachaf> "Traditional lanttulaatikko is made of boiled and mashed swedes"

01:03:23 <boily> olsner: hellolsner. are you edible, and if so, do you taste good?

01:04:57 <fizzie> The carrot thing is the only one of the christmas "box" foods worth eating.

01:23:52 <zzo38> You can read about GURPS game I play at: http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+2

01:24:13 <Jafet> an #esoteric-dwelling swede / was mistaken for edible feed / “with you,” said a sicko / “our lanttulaatikko / would be very tasty indeed!”

01:25:09 <olsner> boily: I am not edible but if I was I would be very tasty indeed

01:26:54 <zzo38> (If you have any complaints, you can enter a new ticket.)

01:56:53 <HackEgo> typoglycerine//Typoglycerine is an explosive that scrambles the letters inside a word.

03:04:27 <zzo38> Does any picture compression format take advantage of trying to rotate/flip the picture when storing it (and then rotating it back when loading) if that would compress better?

03:04:35 * hppavilion[1] grumbles something about those fuckin' sums, stealing our jobs, livin' off the gov'mnt

03:05:14 <zzo38> I found that the built-in "wizard:" picture in ImageMagick seems to compress in a PNG format better when it is rotated clockwise 90 degrees than when it is stored normally.

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04:29:51 <zzo38> http://zzo38computer.org/img_19/Worldview.jpg How to do the other five combinations of the color of Magic: the Gathering?

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06:54:28 <zzo38> http://zzo38computer.org/img6/ch11-simplicity-vs-complexity.gif

07:14:29 <hppavilion[1]> My dad is currently nailing the flag of China just above the door to the bedroom of a former CIA agent (who is currently asleep inside)

10:45:04 <lambdabot> LOWI 300920Z 27007KT 240V310 CAVOK 12/01 Q1013 NOSIG

10:47:12 <lambdabot> ENVA 300920Z 24004KT 200V260 9999 SCT024 BKN076 05/M04 Q1020 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT VRB03KT

10:48:35 <int-e> sounds a bit like 2 days ago except here it was cloudy and rainy, so there's no way the dewpoint was that low.

10:49:14 <olsner> zzo38: I think it's rather a matter of PNG being unnecessarily dependent on orientation (it does things like store the delta between scanlines, but doesn't have the corresponding feature for the other direction)

11:13:24 <FireFly> The weather is all over the place, but today it's nice and sunny

11:57:02 <oerjan> looks like it just gives the size of its first argument

11:58:29 <FireFly> It's index-of, returning one past the end for missing values

12:05:21 <oerjan> figures, none of my tests repeated a number on both sides.

13:22:44 <HackEgo> dragon//Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels.

14:09:45 <int-e> https://nusan.itch.io/fragments-of-euclid is a cute little game

14:18:38 <int-e> ("little" refers to the length; it can be finished in an hour or two.)

15:02:44 <fizzie> FireFly: ^ The `iata|`icao|`airport syntax is a little confusing -- the command name is what you're looking things up *with*, not what you want out of it.

15:04:53 <FireFly> I think I probably was told that last time I attempted to use it, but forgot again, haha

15:10:37 <fizzie> `mkx bin/help//echo ask oerjan to do something with this

15:10:41 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/

15:11:24 <fizzie> `mkx bin/help//echo ask oerjan to do something with bin/help.

15:11:43 <fizzie> ...maybe I should've done the link to \? as a first pass though.

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15:57:22 <HackEgo> implication//Implication is a useful rhetorical device, if you know what I mean.

17:01:47 <HackEgo> page//The smallest floating-point number is known as pages. Fungot discovered it.

17:46:47 <fungot> int-e: of course! magick!!! i have an alibi. it's 5:30 am, i

17:47:27 <int-e> Somehow I don't think fungot knows what an alibi is. Or are we fungot's alibi... hmm.

17:47:27 <fungot> int-e: no but `1 is a unit of memory. like 8 times what your program does not work here... :( i don't think

17:47:34 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube

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17:57:56 <fungot> fizzie: and gcc already compiles to it with fnord and outmoded concepts such as continuations for practical web development. it is

18:05:43 <fungot> boily: what kind of criticism you've levelled at the arithmetic library is there to believe? sending another message with the given data, that would

18:54:44 <HackEgo> Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces.

18:57:08 <HackEgo> `edit <file> gives you a url, then in your browser: (1) Press Sync (unless making a new file) (2) Make your changes (3) Press Save (4) Paste the command line at the top into the channel.

18:57:33 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/

18:58:32 <oerjan> `learn `fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.

18:58:35 <HackEgo> Learned '`fetch': `fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.

18:58:43 <HackEgo> `fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.

18:59:01 <HackEgo> `fetch//`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.

19:00:11 <oerjan> `slwd `fetch//s,See,It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. &,

19:00:13 <HackEgo> `fetch//`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. See also `edit.

19:00:48 <HackEgo> #!/bin/bash \ echo "Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access." >&2 \ exit 1

19:01:38 <HackEgo> Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access.

19:02:24 <HackEgo> bin/lynx//#!/bin/bash \ ? 'web access' >&2 \ exit 1

19:02:30 <HackEgo> Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access.

19:03:55 <HackEgo> Learned 'web access': Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access. However, see `? fetch

19:06:09 <HackEgo> 10853:2017-04-30 <oerjän> le/rn_append web access//However, see `? fetch \ 10851:2017-04-30 <oerjän> ` lynx 2>wisdom/\'web access\'

19:09:05 <oerjan> `learn `run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for runninc a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)

19:09:07 <HackEgo> Learned '`run': `run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for runninc a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)

19:10:04 <HackEgo> `run//`run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for running a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)

19:13:05 <oerjan> `learn `revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See <http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/>. It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands.

19:13:07 <HackEgo> Relearned '`revert': `revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See <http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/>. It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands.

19:13:23 <HackEgo> wisdom/`revert//`revert now works fine. Yay fizzie!

19:15:54 <HackEgo> web access//Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access. However, see `? `fetch

19:29:00 <rdococ> is there an instruction for summing a series? e.g. [1, 2, 3, 4] -> [1, 3, 6, 10]

19:30:32 <myname> i have no idea wether or not there is an easy prefix verb

19:41:38 <oerjan> i think ok is what it says when not outputting anything, like when outputting a 0-dimensional matrix

19:50:03 <oerjan> ok i think i understand something. each of the parts of the first argument give a big part of the result

19:50:30 <oerjan> and the 0s are padding to make all the parts fit in one matrix

19:52:22 <oerjan> so i predict if i do 0 1 3 4 +\ 4 5 6 we'll get 4 parts, each 3 by 3

19:56:48 <oerjan> and then it adds enough rows to get to use all the elements.

19:57:35 <oerjan> and the rows + columns = 1 + number of second arguments

19:57:58 <oerjan> and this somehow is considered the case even when columns = 0

20:00:43 <fungot> int-e: i thought the point of sqlite: it is a nice name for it.

20:00:44 <HackEgo> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.

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20:45:41 <fizzie> Heh, fun fact about z80asm: for its conditional inclusion directive, the syntax is "if <cond>", "else", "else", "else", ..., "endif", and if <cond> is true, it will assemble all odd blocks, while if it's false it will do all the even ones.

21:02:52 <int-e> fizzie: that's kind of useful, though what about common parts of the code ;)

21:31:48 <FireFly> [ +/\ i.4 NB. f\ applies f to prefixes, rather than folding f on prefixes, so you need to use f/\ for a scan

21:36:38 <fizzie> I'm surprised if there are no Z80 assemblers running on the speccy.

21:38:38 <fizzie> I was at a place the other weekend, they had a bunch of BBC Micros, I think I've heard its BASIC interpreter has a reasonably elaborate inline assembly mode.

23:27:08 <zzo38> In this GURPS game is the wall of a solid diamond, maybe I would need another diamond in order to cut it to get what is behind it.

23:28:28 <int-e> . o O ( burn it down (but that will likely fail due to high heat conductivity) )

23:30:06 <int-e> "Although diamonds can burn at temperatures reached by a regular welding torch, generally there isn't enough of a ready supply of oxygen in the atmosphere."

23:30:25 <int-e> random find, take it with a grain of salt. but it does sound plausible.

23:39:24 <boily> hezzo38. our trustiest source for cutting stuff down in DnD is a seagull hth

23:47:22 <zzo38> I do have a spell that can produce "an effect as though burning magnesium or phosphorus had been held to the subject".

23:55:49 <zzo38> And how can a seagull to help to destroy a diamond wall anyways?

23:59:37 <boily> we don't know, the seagull only works if we don't look at it.