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00:13:47 <zzo38> Today I played GURPS game a second time.
00:13:54 <zzo38> Do you know that?
00:22:18 <shachaf> I know it now that you said it.
00:23:20 <zzo38> O, OK.
00:25:20 <zzo38> Do you like this?
00:26:13 <shachaf> Like what, the fact that today you played GURPS game a second time?
00:26:39 <zzo38> I mean if you like this GURPS game a second time.
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00:29:06 <shachaf> I didn't even like it the first time.
00:29:09 <shachaf> I know nothing about it.
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00:31:31 <zzo38> Then you must learn. My character is named Ziveruskex and his friend is Strixan and then there is also Bob and also Domag who is a priest and is also very strong and is good at fighting with a sword. (My own character is fight by shield.)
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00:32:12 <shachaf> How do you fight by shield?
00:32:36 <zzo38> By a shield bash.
00:32:44 <shachaf> I had a smiter in Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction who did that.
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00:38:58 <zzo38> O, OK
00:49:24 <zzo38> It is a good thing that I had a shield and had chosen to defend on one turn, because those two things together made the important difference to be able to successfully defend against an opponent's attack with a sword.
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00:55:20 <boily> fungot: lanttulaatikko.
00:55:20 <fungot> boily: i thought so,
00:56:04 <zzo38> What is "lanttulaatikko"?
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00:57:07 <boily> hezzo38. I was wandering on the Wikipédia, and fell on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanttulaatikko
00:58:11 <zzo38> O, that is what it is.
00:58:55 <shachaf> "Traditional lanttulaatikko is made of boiled and mashed swedes"
01:03:23 <boily> olsner: hellolsner. are you edible, and if so, do you taste good?
01:04:13 <fizzie> boily: Ugh.
01:04:57 <fizzie> The carrot thing is the only one of the christmas "box" foods worth eating.
01:23:52 <zzo38> You can read about GURPS game I play at: http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+2
01:24:13 <Jafet> an #esoteric-dwelling swede / was mistaken for edible feed / “with you,” said a sicko / “our lanttulaatikko / would be very tasty indeed!”
01:25:02 <zzo38> Do you like this?
01:25:09 <olsner> boily: I am not edible but if I was I would be very tasty indeed
01:25:44 <boily> Jafellot. :D
01:25:48 <boily> zzo38: :D
01:25:51 <boily> olsner: :D
01:26:03 <boily> fizziello. carrot thing?
01:26:54 <zzo38> (If you have any complaints, you can enter a new ticket.)
01:27:11 <shachaf> Jafet++
01:27:38 <fizzie> boily: Porkkanalaatikko.
01:28:13 <boily> en:carrot is fi:pork?????
01:28:21 <fizzie> boily: No, it's fi:porkkana.
01:28:32 <fizzie> (fi:kana is en:chicken.)
01:29:10 <shachaf> What about en:chicken-of-the-woods?
01:29:20 * boily is culinarily perturbed
01:29:33 <shachaf> And en:hen-of-the-woods?
01:29:43 <fizzie> shachaf: fi:rikkikääpä.
01:30:11 <fizzie> shachaf: And fi:koppelokääpä.
01:30:40 <fizzie> (fi:kääpä is any Polyporaceae.)
01:56:50 <boily> `wisdom
01:56:53 <HackEgo> typoglycerine//Typoglycerine is an explosive that scrambles the letters inside a word.
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03:04:01 * hppavilion[1] installs an Add Blocker
03:04:27 <zzo38> Does any picture compression format take advantage of trying to rotate/flip the picture when storing it (and then rotating it back when loading) if that would compress better?
03:04:35 * hppavilion[1] grumbles something about those fuckin' sums, stealing our jobs, livin' off the gov'mnt
03:05:14 <zzo38> I found that the built-in "wizard:" picture in ImageMagick seems to compress in a PNG format better when it is rotated clockwise 90 degrees than when it is stored normally.
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04:29:51 <zzo38> http://zzo38computer.org/img_19/Worldview.jpg How to do the other five combinations of the color of Magic: the Gathering?
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06:54:28 <zzo38> http://zzo38computer.org/img6/ch11-simplicity-vs-complexity.gif
07:14:29 <hppavilion[1]> *sigh*
07:14:29 <hppavilion[1]> My dad is currently nailing the flag of China just above the door to the bedroom of a former CIA agent (who is currently asleep inside)
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07:23:21 <pikhq> That doesn't seem wise.
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08:18:30 <myname> it does seem funny
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10:44:26 <int-e> . o O ( twist: they're the same person )
10:45:04 <int-e> @metar lowi
10:45:04 <lambdabot> LOWI 300920Z 27007KT 240V310 CAVOK 12/01 Q1013 NOSIG
10:45:36 <int-e> it went down just below 0°C tonight.
10:47:12 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
10:47:12 <lambdabot> ENVA 300920Z 24004KT 200V260 9999 SCT024 BKN076 05/M04 Q1020 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT VRB03KT
10:48:35 <int-e> sounds a bit like 2 days ago except here it was cloudy and rainy, so there's no way the dewpoint was that low.
10:49:14 <olsner> zzo38: I think it's rather a matter of PNG being unnecessarily dependent on orientation (it does things like store the delta between scanlines, but doesn't have the corresponding feature for the other direction)
11:06:45 <\oren\> MechaNika is a good game
11:13:24 <FireFly> The weather is all over the place, but today it's nice and sunny
11:13:32 <FireFly> @metar ESSB
11:13:33 <lambdabot> ESSB 300950Z 28014KT CAVOK 07/M07 Q1020
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11:14:15 <FireFly> `iata Skavsta
11:14:24 <FireFly> hm
11:14:26 <HackEgo> No output.
11:15:13 <FireFly> Oh I wanted ICAO anyway
11:15:34 <FireFly> @metar eskn
11:15:34 <lambdabot> ESKN 300950Z 27014KT CAVOK 09/M05 Q1021
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11:30:21 <oerjan> ( 1i3
11:30:21 <idris-bot> (input):1:2:No such variable i3
11:30:30 <oerjan> hum
11:30:37 <oerjan> oh
11:30:43 <oerjan> [ 1i3
11:30:44 <j-bot> oerjan: |ill-formed number
11:30:47 <oerjan> darn
11:30:57 <oerjan> [ 1i.3
11:30:57 <j-bot> oerjan: |ill-formed number
11:31:05 <oerjan> whatev
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11:51:20 <FireFly> [ i.3
11:51:20 <j-bot> FireFly: 0 1 2
11:51:38 <oerjan> oh m
11:51:43 <oerjan> [ 1 i.3
11:51:44 <j-bot> oerjan: 1
11:51:59 <oerjan> [ 1+i.3
11:51:59 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 3
11:52:19 <oerjan> [ +/i.3
11:52:20 <j-bot> oerjan: 3
11:52:30 <oerjan> [ */i.3
11:52:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
11:52:37 <oerjan> [ */1+i.3
11:52:37 <j-bot> oerjan: 6
11:53:10 <oerjan> [ 3 i. 7
11:53:10 <j-bot> oerjan: 1
11:54:13 <oerjan> [ 4 i. 8
11:54:13 <j-bot> oerjan: 1
11:54:21 <oerjan> [ 4 i. 8 5 6
11:54:22 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 1 1
11:54:35 <oerjan> [ 2 3 4 i. 8 5 6
11:54:36 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 3 3
11:55:03 <oerjan> [ 2 3 4 10 i. 8 5 6
11:55:04 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 4 4
11:55:22 <oerjan> [ 2 3; 4 10 i. 8 5 6
11:55:23 <j-bot> oerjan: ┌───┬─────┐
11:55:23 <j-bot> oerjan: │2 3│2 2 2│
11:55:23 <j-bot> oerjan: └───┴─────┘
11:55:38 <oerjan> [ (2 3; 4 10) i. 8 5 6
11:55:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 2 2
11:56:07 <int-e> j-spam
11:56:40 <oerjan> just wondering what binary i. does
11:57:02 <oerjan> looks like it just gives the size of its first argument
11:58:29 <FireFly> It's index-of, returning one past the end for missing values
12:00:08 <FireFly> [ 'abcdef' i. 'cabbage'
12:00:09 <j-bot> FireFly: 2 0 1 1 0 6 4
12:05:21 <oerjan> figures, none of my tests repeated a number on both sides.
12:06:06 <oerjan> [ 'cabbage' i. 'abcdef'
12:06:06 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 0 7 6 7
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12:26:17 <rdococ> [ 6
12:26:18 <j-bot> rdococ: 6
12:26:24 <rdococ> [ 7 + 7
12:26:24 <j-bot> rdococ: 14
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13:22:23 <boily> `w
13:22:44 <HackEgo> dragon//Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels.
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13:31:53 <boily> Mayelloirkin.
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13:40:18 <rdococ> `? horse
13:40:21 <HackEgo> A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!
13:40:27 <rdococ> [ i. 3
13:40:28 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 1 2
13:40:31 <rdococ> [ i. 5
13:40:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 1 2 3 4
13:40:38 <rdococ> [ 'a'
13:40:38 <j-bot> rdococ: a
13:40:39 <rdococ> [ 'ab'
13:40:40 <j-bot> rdococ: ab
13:40:43 <rdococ> [ 'abc'
13:40:43 <j-bot> rdococ: abc
13:40:46 <rdococ> [ 'abc' 3
13:40:46 <j-bot> rdococ: |syntax error
13:40:46 <j-bot> rdococ: | 'abc'3
13:40:54 <rdococ> [ 'abc' i.3
13:40:55 <j-bot> rdococ: 3
13:40:56 <rdococ> huh
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14:09:45 <int-e> https://nusan.itch.io/fragments-of-euclid is a cute little game
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14:18:38 <int-e> ("little" refers to the length; it can be finished in an hour or two.)
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14:29:53 <rdococ> [ 3 + i. 4
14:29:54 <j-bot> rdococ: 3 4 5 6
14:30:16 <rdococ> [i. 3 * i. 3
14:30:19 <rdococ> [ i. 3 * i. 3
14:30:19 <j-bot> rdococ: |ok
14:30:27 <rdococ> [ i. 3
14:30:27 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 1 2
14:30:30 <rdococ> [ i. 3 + i. 3
14:30:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 1 2 3 4
14:30:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 5 6 7 8 9
14:30:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 10 11 12 13 14
14:30:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 15 16 17 18 19
14:30:31 <j-bot> rdococ:
14:30:32 <j-bot> rdococ: 20 21 22 23 24
14:30:32 <j-bot> rdococ: 25 26 27 28 29
14:30:33 <j-bot> rdococ: 30 31 32 33 34
14:30:33 <j-bot> rdococ: ...
14:30:36 <rdococ> er
14:37:43 <myname> makes sense
14:37:59 <myname> seems to be i. (3 + i. 3)
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14:41:06 <rdococ> [ (i. 3) + (i. 3)
14:41:07 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 2 4
14:41:14 <rdococ> [ (i. 3) + (i. 4)
14:41:15 <j-bot> rdococ: |length error
14:41:15 <j-bot> rdococ: | (i.3) +(i.4)
14:44:34 <rdococ> [ i. (i. 3)
14:44:35 <j-bot> rdococ: |ok
14:45:01 <rdococ> [ i. (1 +i. 3)
14:45:01 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 1 2
14:45:01 <j-bot> rdococ: 3 4 5
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15:02:41 <fizzie> `airport Skavsta
15:02:42 <HackEgo> Skavsta (NYO, ESKN)
15:02:44 <fizzie> FireFly: ^ The `iata|`icao|`airport syntax is a little confusing -- the command name is what you're looking things up *with*, not what you want out of it.
15:04:32 <FireFly> ah
15:04:53 <FireFly> I think I probably was told that last time I attempted to use it, but forgot again, haha
15:10:37 <fizzie> `mkx bin/help//echo ask oerjan to do something with this
15:10:40 <HackEgo> bin/help
15:10:41 <fizzie> `help
15:10:41 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
15:10:45 <fizzie> `help some_argument
15:10:46 <HackEgo> ask oerjan to do something with this
15:11:04 <fizzie> @tell oerjan Try "`help foo".
15:11:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
15:11:24 <fizzie> `mkx bin/help//echo ask oerjan to do something with bin/help.
15:11:26 <HackEgo> bin/help
15:11:43 <fizzie> ...maybe I should've done the link to \? as a first pass though.
15:12:49 <fizzie> `mkx bin/help//\? '`'"$1"
15:12:51 <HackEgo> bin/help
15:12:54 <fizzie> `help command
15:12:55 <HackEgo> ​`command? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
15:13:02 <fizzie> Yeah, that's fine.
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15:57:20 <boily> `w
15:57:22 <HackEgo> implication//Implication is a useful rhetorical device, if you know what I mean.
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17:01:25 <boily>
17:01:28 <boily> `w
17:01:47 <HackEgo> page//The smallest floating-point number is known as pages. Fungot discovered it.
17:11:04 <int-e> too contextual, perhaps
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17:46:46 <int-e> fungot: you around?
17:46:47 <fungot> int-e: of course! magick!!! i have an alibi. it's 5:30 am, i
17:46:55 <int-e> hah
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17:47:27 <int-e> Somehow I don't think fungot knows what an alibi is. Or are we fungot's alibi... hmm.
17:47:27 <fungot> int-e: no but `1 is a unit of memory. like 8 times what your program does not work here... :( i don't think
17:47:34 <int-e> ^style
17:47:34 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
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17:57:55 <fizzie> fungot: It's certainly true that you don't think.
17:57:56 <fungot> fizzie: and gcc already compiles to it with fnord and outmoded concepts such as continuations for practical web development. it is
17:59:06 <APic> Thinking is darn expensive.
18:00:17 <rdococ> holle
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18:05:43 <boily> fungot: umngqusho.
18:05:43 <fungot> boily: what kind of criticism you've levelled at the arithmetic library is there to believe? sending another message with the given data, that would
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18:48:20 <oerjan> `help foo
18:48:22 <HackEgo> ​`foo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:50:46 <oerjan> [ 'abc' + 3
18:50:47 <j-bot> oerjan: |domain error
18:50:47 <j-bot> oerjan: | 'abc' +3
18:50:52 <oerjan> [ 'abc' + 'def'
18:50:53 <j-bot> oerjan: |domain error
18:50:53 <j-bot> oerjan: | 'abc' +'def'
18:51:12 <oerjan> how static
18:53:53 <boily> almost as helpful as metasepia ^^
18:54:07 <oerjan> [ duck
18:54:08 <j-bot> oerjan: |value error: duck
18:54:15 <oerjan> _almost_.
18:54:42 <oerjan> `help ostrich
18:54:44 <HackEgo> Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces.
18:54:56 <oerjan> HackEgo is now helpful.
18:55:46 <oerjan> `help fetch
18:55:47 <HackEgo> ​`fetch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:55:53 <boily> disturbing.
18:55:59 <boily> `? duck
18:56:00 <HackEgo> duck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:57:07 <oerjan> `help `edit
18:57:08 <HackEgo> ​`edit <file> gives you a url, then in your browser: (1) Press Sync (unless making a new file) (2) Make your changes (3) Press Save (4) Paste the command line at the top into the channel.
18:57:33 <oerjan> `help
18:57:33 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
18:58:32 <oerjan> `learn `fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.
18:58:35 <HackEgo> Learned '`fetch': `fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.
18:58:42 <oerjan> `help fetch
18:58:43 <HackEgo> ​`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.
18:58:59 <oerjan> `slwd `fetch//s,",,
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18:59:01 <HackEgo> ​`fetch//`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. See also `edit.
19:00:11 <oerjan> `slwd `fetch//s,See,It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. &,
19:00:13 <HackEgo> ​`fetch//`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. See also `edit.
19:00:40 <oerjan> `cat bin/curl
19:00:41 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ exec $HACKENV/bin/lynx
19:00:47 <oerjan> `cat bin/lynx
19:00:48 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ echo "Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access." >&2 \ exit 1
19:01:31 <oerjan> `` lynx 2>wisdom/'web access'
19:01:33 <HackEgo> No output.
19:01:37 <oerjan> `? web access
19:01:38 <HackEgo> Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access.
19:02:17 <oerjan> `slwd bin/lynx//2c\? 'web access' >&2
19:02:18 <HackEgo> Roswbud!
19:02:22 <oerjan> `sled bin/lynx//2c\? 'web access' >&2
19:02:24 <HackEgo> bin/lynx//#!/bin/bash \ ? 'web access' >&2 \ exit 1
19:02:29 <oerjan> `lynx
19:02:30 <HackEgo> Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access.
19:03:53 <oerjan> `le/rn_append web access//However, see `? fetch
19:03:55 <HackEgo> Learned 'web access': Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access. However, see `? fetch
19:06:01 <oerjan> `dowg web access
19:06:09 <HackEgo> 10853:2017-04-30 <oerjän> le/rn_append web access//However, see `? fetch \ 10851:2017-04-30 <oerjän> ` lynx 2>wisdom/\'web access\'
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19:09:05 <oerjan> `learn `run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for runninc a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)
19:09:07 <HackEgo> Learned '`run': `run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for runninc a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)
19:10:02 <oerjan> `slwd `run//s,inc,ing,
19:10:04 <HackEgo> ​`run//`run <command> is HackEgo's builtin for running a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.)
19:13:05 <oerjan> `learn `revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See <http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/>. It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands.
19:13:07 <HackEgo> Relearned '`revert': `revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See <http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/>. It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands.
19:13:12 <oerjan> oops
19:13:16 <oerjan> `before
19:13:23 <HackEgo> wisdom/`revert//`revert now works fine. Yay fizzie!
19:13:30 <oerjan> oh okay
19:15:51 <oerjan> `slwd web access//s,fetch,`&,
19:15:54 <HackEgo> web access//Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access. However, see `? `fetch
19:16:43 <oerjan> `? `?
19:16:44 <HackEgo> ​​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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19:17:34 <oerjan> hm that one is special
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19:20:48 <oerjan> [ +/ i. 3 3
19:20:49 <j-bot> oerjan: 9 12 15
19:21:42 <oerjan> { 1 2 3 +/ 1 2 3
19:21:52 <oerjan> [ 1 2 3 +/ 1 2 3
19:21:53 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 3 4
19:21:53 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 4 5
19:21:53 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:22:05 <oerjan> ooh that was it
19:22:23 <oerjan> [ 1 2 3 */ 1 2 3
19:22:23 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 3
19:22:23 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 4 6
19:22:23 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 6 9
19:23:15 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 * 1 2 3
19:23:16 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 4 9
19:23:26 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 // 1 2 3
19:23:26 <j-bot> rdococ: |domain error
19:23:26 <j-bot> rdococ: | 1 2 3//1 2 3
19:23:32 <rdococ> er
19:23:53 <oerjan> [ 1 / 2
19:23:53 <j-bot> oerjan: |domain error
19:23:53 <j-bot> oerjan: | 1/2
19:23:58 <myname> %
19:24:20 <oerjan> [ 1 2 3 %/ 1 2 3
19:24:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0.5 0.333333
19:24:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 1 0.666667
19:24:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 1.5 1
19:25:37 <rdococ> [1 % 2
19:25:39 <rdococ> [ 1 % 2
19:25:40 <j-bot> rdococ: 0.5
19:25:43 <rdococ> o-o
19:25:47 <myname> ?
19:29:00 <rdococ> is there an instruction for summing a series? e.g. [1, 2, 3, 4] -> [1, 3, 6, 10]
19:29:49 <myname> good question, is there a take verb?
19:30:17 <myname> you could do something like +/ over each prefix
19:30:32 <myname> i have no idea wether or not there is an easy prefix verb
19:31:07 <oerjan> there ought to be a / variant for it
19:31:20 <oerjan> [ +\ 1 2 3 4
19:31:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0 0 0
19:31:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 0 0
19:31:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 3 0
19:31:21 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 2 3 4
19:31:24 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 !/
19:31:25 <j-bot> rdococ: |syntax error
19:31:25 <j-bot> rdococ: | 1 2 3!/
19:31:30 <oerjan> huh
19:31:48 <rdococ> I was thinking about factorial/ for some reason
19:32:11 <myname> [ +/ (+\ i.4)
19:32:12 <j-bot> myname: 0 3 4 3
19:32:17 <oerjan> it doesn't have postfixed operators, i think
19:32:18 <myname> damn
19:32:46 <myname> how do you transpose
19:32:47 <oerjan> [ +\ 1 3 5
19:32:47 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0 0
19:32:47 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 3 0
19:32:47 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 3 5
19:32:57 <oerjan> [ *\ 1 3 5
19:32:57 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0 0
19:32:57 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 1 0
19:32:57 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 1 1
19:33:15 <oerjan> [ %\ 1 3 5
19:33:16 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0 0
19:33:16 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0.333333 0
19:33:16 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0.333333 0.2
19:33:17 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 *\ 1 2 3
19:33:17 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0 0
19:33:17 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0 0
19:33:17 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0 0
19:33:17 <j-bot> rdococ:
19:33:17 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 1 0
19:33:18 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 1 0
19:33:18 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 0 0
19:33:19 <j-bot> rdococ:
19:33:19 <j-bot> rdococ: ...
19:33:23 <rdococ> er
19:33:31 * boily *THWACKS* rdococ
19:34:04 * rdococ *ORANGES* boily
19:34:28 <myname> [ +/(|: (+\ i.4))
19:34:29 <j-bot> myname: 0 1 3 6
19:34:38 <myname> there we go
19:34:42 <myname> now make it less ugly
19:34:53 <rdococ> and tell me what | and : mean
19:35:03 <myname> |: transposes a matrix
19:35:06 <rdococ> ah
19:37:01 <oerjan> [ 1 2 *\ 1 2
19:37:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0
19:37:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0
19:37:01 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:37:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 1
19:37:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0
19:37:11 <oerjan> [ * 2
19:37:12 <j-bot> oerjan: 1
19:37:21 <oerjan> hm thought so
19:37:31 <oerjan> [ + 3
19:37:31 <j-bot> oerjan: 3
19:37:46 <oerjan> <op>\ treats <op> as unary
19:37:57 <oerjan> or monic, is that the word
19:38:04 <oerjan> monadic
19:38:37 <oerjan> [ 1 2 +\ 3 4
19:38:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 0
19:38:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0
19:38:38 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:38:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 4
19:38:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0
19:39:16 <oerjan> hm the part before does some shaping?
19:40:00 <oerjan> [ 1 2 +\ 7
19:40:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:40:01 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:40:01 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:40:17 <oerjan> [ 1 2 \ 7
19:40:18 <j-bot> oerjan: |domain error
19:40:18 <j-bot> oerjan: | 1 2\7
19:40:52 <oerjan> [ 2 3 +\ 7
19:40:52 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:40:57 <oerjan> huh
19:41:05 <rdococ> [ ok
19:41:05 <j-bot> rdococ: |value error: ok
19:41:38 <oerjan> i think ok is what it says when not outputting anything, like when outputting a 0-dimensional matrix
19:41:50 <rdococ> that makes sense
19:42:21 <rdococ> [
19:42:22 <oerjan> [ 2 3 +\ 4 5
19:42:23 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 0
19:42:23 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:42:23 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:42:42 <rdococ> [ +\ 3
19:42:43 <j-bot> rdococ: 3
19:42:46 <rdococ> [ 2 +\ 3
19:42:47 <j-bot> rdococ: |ok
19:42:52 <rdococ> huh
19:42:53 <rdococ> odd
19:43:10 <oerjan> [ 2 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:43:10 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 0
19:43:10 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6 0
19:43:11 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:43:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:43:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:43:30 <oerjan> this operation is crazy :P
19:44:25 <oerjan> [ 3 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:44:26 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:44:26 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:44:26 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:44:34 <oerjan> huh that was _shorter_
19:44:35 <rdococ> [ 2 3 +\ 2 3
19:44:36 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 3 0
19:44:36 <j-bot> rdococ:
19:44:36 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 0 0
19:44:46 <rdococ> [ 2 1 +\ 2 1
19:44:46 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 1
19:44:46 <j-bot> rdococ: 0 0
19:44:46 <j-bot> rdococ:
19:44:46 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 0
19:44:46 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0
19:44:52 <rdococ> that is really odd
19:45:13 <oerjan> [ 1 2 +\ 4 5
19:45:14 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0
19:45:14 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 0
19:45:14 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:45:14 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5
19:45:14 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0
19:46:11 <oerjan> [ 1 0 +\ 4 5
19:46:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 4
19:46:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 5
19:46:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:46:11 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:46:11 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:46:12 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:46:12 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:46:43 <oerjan> [ 1 +\ 4 5
19:46:44 <j-bot> oerjan: 4
19:46:44 <j-bot> oerjan: 5
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19:46:51 <oerjan> [ 0 +\ 4 5
19:46:52 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:46:57 <oerjan> [ 2 +\ 4 5
19:46:57 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5
19:47:08 <oerjan> oh hm
19:48:04 <oerjan> [ 1 +\ 4 5
19:48:05 <j-bot> oerjan: 4
19:48:05 <j-bot> oerjan: 5
19:48:13 <oerjan> [ 3 +\ 4 5
19:48:13 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:48:23 <oerjan> [ 0 +\ 7
19:48:23 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:48:28 <oerjan> [ 1 +\ 7
19:48:29 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:48:34 <oerjan> [ 2 +\ 7
19:48:34 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:48:41 <oerjan> [ 1 1 +\ 7
19:48:42 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:48:42 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:48:42 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:49:18 <oerjan> [ 2 +\ 4 5 6
19:49:19 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5
19:49:19 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6
19:49:24 <oerjan> [ 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:49:24 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:49:30 <oerjan> [ 2 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:49:31 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 0
19:49:31 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6 0
19:49:31 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:49:31 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:49:31 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:50:03 <oerjan> ok i think i understand something. each of the parts of the first argument give a big part of the result
19:50:30 <oerjan> and the 0s are padding to make all the parts fit in one matrix
19:50:44 * boily is updating the PDF
19:50:49 <oerjan> [ 1 2 +\ 7
19:50:50 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:50:50 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:50:50 <j-bot> oerjan: 0
19:51:31 <oerjan> [ 0 +\ 4 5 6
19:51:32 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:51:37 <oerjan> [ 1 +\ 4 5 6
19:51:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 4
19:51:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 5
19:51:38 <j-bot> oerjan: 6
19:51:42 <oerjan> [ 2 +\ 4 5 6
19:51:43 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5
19:51:43 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6
19:51:47 <oerjan> [ 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:51:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:52:22 <oerjan> so i predict if i do 0 1 3 4 +\ 4 5 6 we'll get 4 parts, each 3 by 3
19:52:26 <oerjan> er
19:52:42 <oerjan> *0 1 2 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:52:47 <oerjan> [ 0 1 2 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0 0
19:52:48 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 0 0
19:52:49 <j-bot> oerjan: 6 0 0
19:52:49 <j-bot> oerjan: ...
19:52:59 <oerjan> oops it was 3 by 4
19:53:40 <oerjan> [ 1 2 3 +\ 4 5 6
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0 0
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 0 0
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 6 0 0
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 0
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6 0
19:53:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 0 0 0
19:53:42 <j-bot> oerjan:
19:53:42 <j-bot> oerjan: ...
19:54:00 <oerjan> that fits
19:54:20 <oerjan> the 0 case must be considered 0 by 4, somehow
19:55:30 <oerjan> [ 1 +\ 4 5 6 7
19:55:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 4
19:55:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 5
19:55:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 6
19:55:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 7
19:55:34 <oerjan> [ 2 +\ 4 5 6 7
19:55:35 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5
19:55:35 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6
19:55:35 <j-bot> oerjan: 6 7
19:55:40 <oerjan> [ 3 +\ 4 5 6 7
19:55:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6
19:55:41 <j-bot> oerjan: 5 6 7
19:55:45 <oerjan> [ 4 +\ 4 5 6 7
19:55:46 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 5 6 7
19:55:53 <oerjan> [ 5 +\ 4 5 6 7
19:55:54 <j-bot> oerjan: |ok
19:56:26 <oerjan> ok the argument is number of columns, i think.
19:56:48 <oerjan> and then it adds enough rows to get to use all the elements.
19:57:06 <oerjan> but if there are too many columns, it gives nothing
19:57:35 <oerjan> and the rows + columns = 1 + number of second arguments
19:57:58 <oerjan> and this somehow is considered the case even when columns = 0
19:58:11 <oerjan> i think this explains the pattern.
19:58:53 <rdococ> [ 4 +\ 2 3 4 5
19:58:54 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 3 4 5
19:59:02 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 4 +\ 1 2 3 4
19:59:03 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0 0 0
19:59:03 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 0 0 0
19:59:03 <j-bot> rdococ: 3 0 0 0
19:59:03 <j-bot> rdococ: 4 0 0 0
19:59:03 <j-bot> rdococ:
19:59:04 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 2 0 0
19:59:04 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 3 0 0
19:59:04 <j-bot> rdococ: 3 4 0 0
19:59:04 <j-bot> rdococ: ...
19:59:18 <rdococ> ah
20:00:34 <int-e> `? j-bot
20:00:35 <HackEgo> j-bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:00:43 <int-e> `? fungot
20:00:43 <fungot> int-e: i thought the point of sqlite: it is a nice name for it.
20:00:44 <HackEgo> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
20:01:55 <rdococ> fungot, why are you so lovable
20:01:55 <fungot> rdococ: the one true way.
20:02:10 <rdococ> I meant like a kitten, but sure
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20:03:06 <oerjan> [ +. 1 2 3
20:03:06 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0
20:03:06 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 0
20:03:06 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 0
20:03:34 <oerjan> [ +. 1 2 3 4
20:03:34 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0
20:03:34 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 0
20:03:34 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 0
20:03:34 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0
20:03:40 <oerjan> fancy
20:03:52 <oerjan> [ *. 1 2 3 4
20:03:52 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 0
20:03:52 <j-bot> oerjan: 2 0
20:03:52 <j-bot> oerjan: 3 0
20:03:52 <j-bot> oerjan: 4 0
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20:09:03 <rdococ> hi
20:09:18 <rdococ> [ 1 2 *. 1 2 3 4
20:09:19 <j-bot> rdococ: |length error
20:09:19 <j-bot> rdococ: | 1 2 *.1 2 3 4
20:09:24 <rdococ> er
20:09:30 <rdococ> [ +. 1 2 3 4
20:09:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 0
20:09:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 0
20:09:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 3 0
20:09:31 <j-bot> rdococ: 4 0
20:09:39 <rdococ> [ 1 2 3 +. 1 2 3
20:09:39 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 2 3
20:09:44 <rdococ> [ 1 2 4 +. 1 2 3
20:09:44 <j-bot> rdococ: 1 2 1
20:09:50 <rdococ> that's odd
20:09:58 <rdococ> [ 3 +. 3
20:09:59 <j-bot> rdococ: 3
20:10:04 <rdococ> [ 2 3 +. 2 3
20:10:05 <j-bot> rdococ: 2 3
20:10:17 <int-e> perhaps j-bot should be in #esoteric-blah. ;P
20:20:18 <oerjan> [ 1 3 5 7 +. 1 3 5 7 9
20:20:19 <j-bot> oerjan: |length error
20:20:19 <j-bot> oerjan: | 1 3 5 7 +.1 3 5 7 9
20:20:29 <oerjan> [ 1 3 5 7 +. 1 3 5 7
20:20:30 <j-bot> oerjan: 1 3 5 7
20:20:36 <oerjan> curious
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20:45:41 <fizzie> Heh, fun fact about z80asm: for its conditional inclusion directive, the syntax is "if <cond>", "else", "else", "else", ..., "endif", and if <cond> is true, it will assemble all odd blocks, while if it's false it will do all the even ones.
20:49:55 * DHeadshot just uses machine code for z80...
20:50:23 <DHeadshot> Don't really have a choice on the Speccy...
20:51:44 <shachaf> fizzie: counting from 1?
21:02:52 <int-e> fizzie: that's kind of useful, though what about common parts of the code ;)
21:16:08 <zzo38> Some other assemblers might do that too.
21:29:55 <FireFly> j-bot is already in #jeval for J eval spam :p
21:30:02 <FireFly> there's also query of course
21:31:48 <FireFly> [ +/\ i.4 NB. f\ applies f to prefixes, rather than folding f on prefixes, so you need to use f/\ for a scan
21:31:48 <j-bot> FireFly: 0 1 3 6
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21:34:23 <FireFly> I could have it join #esoteric-blah
21:34:28 <FireFly> didn't know that was a thing
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21:36:38 <fizzie> I'm surprised if there are no Z80 assemblers running on the speccy.
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21:38:38 <fizzie> I was at a place the other weekend, they had a bunch of BBC Micros, I think I've heard its BASIC interpreter has a reasonably elaborate inline assembly mode.
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23:27:08 <zzo38> In this GURPS game is the wall of a solid diamond, maybe I would need another diamond in order to cut it to get what is behind it.
23:28:28 <int-e> . o O ( burn it down (but that will likely fail due to high heat conductivity) )
23:30:06 <int-e> "Although diamonds can burn at temperatures reached by a regular welding torch, generally there isn't enough of a ready supply of oxygen in the atmosphere."
23:30:25 <int-e> random find, take it with a grain of salt. but it does sound plausible.
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23:39:24 <boily> hezzo38. our trustiest source for cutting stuff down in DnD is a seagull hth
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23:46:40 <zzo38> I am playind at GURPS though not Dungeons.
23:46:49 <zzo38> (Also I don't have a seagull)
23:47:22 <zzo38> I do have a spell that can produce "an effect as though burning magnesium or phosphorus had been held to the subject".
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23:55:49 <zzo38> And how can a seagull to help to destroy a diamond wall anyways?
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23:59:37 <boily> we don't know, the seagull only works if we don't look at it.
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