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00:17:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[EWagon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51995&oldid=51954 * Timtomtoaster * (-67)
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00:29:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TEWELSWAC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51997&oldid=51994 * Timtomtoaster * (+74)
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00:42:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52000&oldid=51943 * Timtomtoaster * (+16) /* T */
00:46:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TEWELSWAC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52001&oldid=51999 * Timtomtoaster * (+87)
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00:51:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TEWELSWAC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52004&oldid=52003 * Timtomtoaster * (-3)
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00:57:41 <lambdabot> PAMR 252353Z 13006KT 9SM -RA SCT040 BKN047 OVC055 06/02 A2993 RMK AO2 RAE2258B22 SLP138 P0002 60002 T00610022 10122 20050 55000
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01:15:12 <lambdabot> KATL 252352Z 28010KT 10SM FEW050 21/10 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP099 T02060100 10228 20206 52012
01:15:42 <lambdabot> KOAK 252353Z 22021G26KT 10SM FEW024 FEW035 18/11 A2979 RMK AO2 PK WND 23027/2304 SLP088 T01830106 10189 20172 56004
01:15:45 <quintopia> I never get the hang of reading that
01:15:49 <lambdabot> KSJC 252353Z 19017G26KT 10SM FEW014 FEW038 19/10 A2977 RMK AO2 PK WND 18028/2313 SLP082 T01890100 10200 20183 58004
01:15:53 <HackEgo> lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK PAMR
01:15:55 <lambdabot> CYUL 260000Z 08019G28KT 7SM -RA FEW028 OVC048 14/11 A2970 RMK SC2SC6 SLP061 DENSITY ALT 200FT \ ENVA 252350Z 26008KT 9999 FEW017 BKN041 09/07 Q1019 RMK WIND 670FT 28012KT \ ESSB 252350Z AUTO
01:15:55 <lambdabot> 00000KT 9999 OVC074/// 10/09 Q1014 \ KOAK 252353Z 22021G26KT 10SM FEW024 FEW035 18/11 A2979 RMK AO2 PK WND 23027/2304 SLP088 T01830106 10189 20172 56004 \ PAMR 260008Z 11005G15KT 5SM GR SCT021
01:15:55 <lambdabot> BKN047 OVC055 04/02 A2993 RMK AO2 RAE06GRB06 P0005 T00440017
01:17:04 <HackEgo> 1/2:p//P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. \ lmt//lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel. \ spork//A spork is something to be randomly held in front of penguins. \ ĥäŝkéll//ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. \ frenemy//Frenemy is the relationship between Kirby and kin
01:17:31 <HackEgo> p//P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. \ lmt//lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel. \ spork//A spork is something to be randomly held in front of penguins. \ ĥäŝkéll//ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. \ frenemy//Frenemy is the relationship between Kirby and kin \ g Dee Dee.
01:17:39 <shachaf> Clearly distort is too conservative.
01:17:54 <HackEgo> #!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=336 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = ' \\ '.join(f.read().splitlines()) \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N]
01:18:18 <lambdabot> CYUL 260000Z 08019G28KT 7SM -RA FEW028 OVC048 14/11 A2970 RMK SC2SC6 SLP061 DENSITY ALT 200FT
01:18:32 <shachaf> boily: Please figure out the optimal N for distort. That would help.
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01:20:52 <boily> helloochaf. which N?
01:26:25 <hppavilion[1]> I recently discovered https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cloud_type_symbols
01:26:36 <hppavilion[1]> I think there needs to be a cloud-computing language based on that
01:28:48 <oerjan> `` echo -n 9999/10000:; cat tmp/spout
01:28:49 <HackEgo> 9999/10000:p//P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. \ lmt//lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel. \ spork//A spork is something to be randomly held in front of penguins. \ ĥäŝkéll//ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. \ frenemy//Frenemy is the relationship between Kirby and kin \
01:29:05 <oerjan> shachaf: it is exactly as designed hth
01:29:39 <shachaf> oerjan: yes but the designer was talking nonsense hth
01:29:50 <shachaf> who would make a 10000-line spam
01:30:03 <oerjan> otherwise, you need to calculate lengths of the prefix to know where to split
01:30:29 <HackEgo> NP is the complexity class of decision problems that are No Problem.
01:31:21 <HackEgo> Your omnipheasant back principal witty arrant darth oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it.
01:31:33 <shachaf> oerjan: Do you like mushrooms?
01:32:02 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipheasant back principal witty arrant darth oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it.
01:32:29 * oerjan swats shachaf for making him hungry -----###
01:32:48 <shachaf> obviously you're not going to use the skillet
01:32:53 <shachaf> because you have a better use for it currently
01:33:03 <oerjan> but i have no mushrooms ;_;
01:33:16 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipheasant back principal witty arrant darth oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His arc-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it.
01:33:36 <shachaf> oerjan: I fried all sorts of mushrooms the other day.
01:33:44 <shachaf> Maybe you should've come visit.
01:33:56 <shachaf> When you visit I'll also give you a bunch of Magic: The Gathering cards.
01:35:08 <quintopia> oerjan doesnt VISIT. if you see him coming, run
01:36:34 <shachaf> What kinds of delicious wild mushrooms grow in Norway?
01:36:55 <boily> I need moar mushrooms. and magic cards.
01:37:04 <HackEgo> Corpse Harvester \ 3BB \ Creature -- Zombie Wizard \ 3/3 \ {1}{B}, {T}, Sacrifice a creature: Search your library for a Zombie card and a Swamp card, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Then shuffle your library. \ LGN-U, HOP-U
01:37:14 <boily> incidentally, my new deck arrived today ^^ first time playing standard.
01:37:38 <shachaf> Is it based on Bogbrew Witch?
01:38:14 <quintopia> is it based on Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel?
01:38:25 <boily> sadly not, and still not.
01:38:44 <oerjan> shachaf: chanterelles is the only one i remember the english name of
01:39:00 <shachaf> Forest is a pretty good card.
01:39:17 <boily> it's stormchaser mage, enigma drake, and ways to make everything gleefully unblockable.
01:39:27 <shachaf> That sounds red or blue or something.
01:39:52 <oerjan> i suppose theoretically you _can_ find button mushrooms too. but they're a bit discouraged for being similar to the deathcap.
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01:40:42 <boily> we have an upcoming tournament at my job, and this time it's standard budget (everything under USD 33.00).
01:40:48 <oerjan> morels exist. i don't recall how they taste.
01:43:09 <oerjan> the other common mushroom i recall apparently has the english name "terracotta hedgehog"
01:44:34 <boily> morels give you many points, but good luck gathering all three...
01:45:25 <shachaf> kmc: do you know that mushroom twh
01:45:47 <oerjan> well, and the whiter variant, which is just "hedgehog mushroom".
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01:49:12 <oerjan> milk-caps are also among the top mushrooms, i think.
01:50:53 <kmc> morels are so delicious
01:51:23 <kmc> shachaf: that is a strange mushroom. i have no heard of it
01:52:02 <kmc> oerjan: is the white variant Hydnum repandum, or Hericium erinaceus
01:52:08 <kmc> the latter is common here; I've even grown them at home
01:52:13 <kmc> don't think i've seen either of the other hedgehog mushrooms
01:52:42 <kmc> i agree about not foraging for button mushrooms
01:52:48 <kmc> dangerous, and they're tasty and cheap from the store
01:53:10 <kmc> around here though we sometimes find Agaricus augustus, the prince! and it's similar to a portabello but tastier (tastes of almonds)
01:53:21 <kmc> I think it is easy to tell an agaricus from an amanita once it has opened up
01:54:02 <kmc> brown/tan gills vs white
01:54:50 <kmc> also amanitas have a volva
01:54:57 <kmc> but don't take my word on any of this stuff
01:54:59 <kmc> you may die
01:55:13 <kmc> chanterelles are p. tasty too
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01:55:28 <kmc> we went hunting for mushrooms last weekend but didn't find anything worth picking :(
01:56:29 <kmc> if you get morels, stuff them with cream cheese and chives, cover them in beer batter and then fry them
02:01:32 <boily> won't that soak them?
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02:21:02 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjective phrase used to describe something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted to be more flowing, thereby allowing wind to pass it with less resistance.
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02:28:44 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,to describe,for the description of,;s,to be,into a more;s:,: shape,:s,less,significantly less amount of,
02:28:45 <HackEgo> /bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 62: unknown option to `s'
02:29:20 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,to describe,for the description of,;s,to be,into a more,;s:,: shape,:s,less,significantly less amount of,
02:29:21 <HackEgo> /bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 72: unknown option to `s'
02:29:41 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,to describe,for the description of,;s,to be,into a more,;s:,: shape,:;s,less,significantly less amount of,
02:29:43 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjective phrase used for the description of something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted into a more more flowing shape, thereby allowing wind to pass it with significantly less amount of resistance.
02:30:12 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,more ,,
02:30:14 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjective phrase used for the description of something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted into a more flowing shape, thereby allowing wind to pass it with significantly less amount of resistance.
02:30:34 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,sig,a sig,
02:30:36 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjective phrase used for the description of something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted into a more flowing shape, thereby allowing wind to pass it with a significantly less amount of resistance.
02:30:54 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,less,smaller,
02:30:56 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjective phrase used for the description of something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted into a more flowing shape, thereby allowing wind to pass it with a significantly smaller amount of resistance.
02:31:20 <oerjan> `slwd long winded//s,e ,al ,
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02:31:22 <HackEgo> long winded//"long winded" is an adjectival phrase used for the description of something that has been long in the wind and has been slowly sculpted into a more flowing shape, thereby allowing wind to pass it with a significantly smaller amount of resistance.
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03:02:45 <HackEgo> oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän Zarutiän
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03:59:31 <Sgeo> https://www.reddit.com/r/MathJokes/comments/6dbjbh/in_mathematics_0_1/
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05:48:31 <\oren\> https://snag.gy/XU8oQ4.jpg
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06:57:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck constants]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52007&oldid=51897 * Primo * (+1087) /* 0-99 */ filling in the gaps for non-wrapping and soft-wrapping
06:59:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck constants]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52008&oldid=52007 * Primo * (+3218) /* 100-149 */ filling in the gaps for non-wrapping and soft-wrapping
07:01:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck constants]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52009&oldid=52008 * Primo * (+4039) /* 150-199 */ filling in the gaps for non-wrapping and soft-wrapping
07:03:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck constants]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52010&oldid=52009 * Primo * (+5629) /* 200-255 */ filling in the gaps for non-wrapping and soft-wrapping
07:05:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck constants]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52011&oldid=51921 * Primo * (+72) /* Updates to non-wrapping solutions */
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08:00:12 <wob_jonas> I hate this stupid interface: http://nav.gov.hu/nav/ugyfelszolg
08:01:22 <wob_jonas> I just want a list of all the fucking NAV uf in Budapest. There's only like thirty or forty, it wouldn't be too hard. But no, it's just useless like "tell us your location and we'll give you the ten offices that we think are the closest to you"
08:01:36 <wob_jonas> I tried for ten minutes and still can't make it give me a complete fucking list
08:04:15 <wob_jonas> just what the fuck is wrong with people making webpages these days?
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18:09:30 <HackEgo> olist 1073: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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19:09:43 <int-e> wee, ghc's DynFlags record has 144 fields...
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20:16:46 <zzo38> "As zzo38 points out, Foo Void1 = Proxy, Foo Proxy = Identity, Foo Identity = Maybe, Foo (Const e) = (e ->), Foo (e ->) = Either e" But that is not the only thing; I also mentioned that you can make a MonadPlus from any Comonad.
20:17:08 <shachaf> I didn't say that was all zzo38 points out.
20:24:11 <zzo38> The problem with what wob_jonas is mention is even to require to use the webpage at all; it can be better using with SQL. And then you can make up your own kind of queries too. There is even a R*Tree module to use with SQL in case you need geospatial queries. (By default it is using rectangles, but it is possible to define other geometries too, such as circles.)
20:35:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52012&oldid=51976 * Zzo38 * (+391)
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20:48:39 <HackEgo> olist 1073: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
20:48:51 <shachaf> wob_jonas: already been olisted tdnh
20:49:47 <wob_jonas> shachaf: are you sure? the logs don't say so. note that I olisted 1072 two days ago
20:50:09 <shachaf> http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/17.05.26
20:50:45 <shachaf> You can also see zzo38's response to your thing in that log.
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22:45:50 <fizzie> shachaf: I guess you'll be happy to know I'm migrating to Prometheus.
22:46:57 <shachaf> Prometheus? Sounds like a clone of something Google had a decade ago.
22:47:20 <fizzie> I just don't think it can be any crummier than the Influx stuff.
22:47:42 <shachaf> It's really only meant for monitoring/ephemeral data, though.
22:48:02 <shachaf> I thought you had some other sorts of time series.
22:48:33 <fizzie> I'm thinking I'll export select interesting bits as downsampled time series to some external thing from it.
22:48:44 <fizzie> But I never got around to setting up alerts on the TICK stack, and that's a scow.
22:49:30 <fizzie> It's a monitoring thing with a (short-term) time series storage thing and an alerting thing.
22:50:09 <shachaf> fizzie: this has nothing to do with trains
22:50:16 <shachaf> have you considered saying it in #trains-offtopic hth
22:50:35 <shachaf> Phantom__Hoover: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1X1rKozAUuF2MVc1YXElFWq9wkcWv3Axdldl8LOH9Vik
22:51:52 <shachaf> These slides talk about BNS.
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22:51:59 <shachaf> fizzie: What's the alternative to BNS that everyone uses?
22:52:51 <fizzie> I don't know. I was looking at the Prometheus docs and it's got like a bazillion service discovery integrations with names I've never even heard of.
22:53:05 <shachaf> That's true. I guess there's nothing everyone uses.
22:53:59 <fizzie> I think Consul is kind of genericy, but I don't know if anyone's using it.
22:55:42 <fizzie> Fortunately I don't have anything that scales, so my monitoring doesn't need to scale either.
22:55:59 <shachaf> fizzie just wants to serve [redacted]
22:57:15 <fizzie> I got re-inspired by monitoring when my home interweb was (well, still is) being sucky, and I could write a complaint to my ISP with lots and lots of data in there.
22:57:50 <shachaf> I run Prometheus and node_exporter on localhost nowadays.
22:58:25 <shachaf> That way I can get all sorts of data about my computer.
22:58:32 <shachaf> I guess "on localhost" is not a very descriptive thing to say.
23:00:31 <fizzie> So far I've ported over 80% of my collectd <-> InfluxDB things to Prometheus + prometheus-node-exporter, which seems like a very good match. I'm not sure it's the right thing for a thing I really only feel like crawling once a day, because it's too flaky and heavyweight to fetch, though.
23:05:42 <shachaf> Well, you could put those things in pushgateway or something and run the crawling process yourself, I guess.
23:06:27 <fizzie> I was thinking either that, or, if I want to have an external long-term storage thing anyway, I could just write directly to it.
23:06:44 <shachaf> Depends on whether you want to do joins with it etc.
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23:43:00 <shachaf> fizzie: A .fi domain is going to expire soon.
23:43:09 <shachaf> I'd like to register it, but I'll probably have some competition.
23:43:17 <shachaf> Do you know any good tricks?
23:47:34 <fizzie> I don't know any tricks. The whole registry/registrar model is pretty new to .fi.
23:48:36 <shachaf> Oh, scow, it was renewed past expiration date but before availability date.
23:49:35 <fizzie> I don't think there are any tricks that would've helped with that. Except the sort of tricks that involve a rubber hose.
23:50:42 <fizzie> `thanks tab completion
23:50:43 <HackEgo> Thanks, tab completion. Thab completion.
23:51:32 <fizzie> I just learned about "iptables-apply", which is basically just a wrapper around iptables-restore, except it asks y/n, and if you don't answer y (for example, because you screwed up and your SSH connection was lost) it reverts back to the previous configuration.
23:52:02 <shachaf> 02:24 <shachaf> Did you know bash-completion runs programs with --help to tab-complete them for you?
23:52:05 <shachaf> 02:24 <shachaf> Including e.g. programs named ./configure
23:53:21 <int-e> what could possibly go wrong?!
23:54:26 <fizzie> The last few weeks, there's been at least five times I've written "bazel //[REDACTED]" at work, tried to tab-complete, spent a moment checking and double-checking what's wrong with the path, before realizing I should've written the other word that starts with b.
23:55:16 <lambdabot> LOWI 262220Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 NCD 14/09 Q1021
23:55:20 <fizzie> Does a bash alias automatically transfer autocomplete settings as well?
23:56:34 <shachaf> i,i the other word that starts with b and also contains all the other letters
23:56:47 <fizzie> Yes, but in a different order.
23:57:00 <lambdabot> EGLL 262250Z AUTO 09007KT 9999 NCD 17/13 Q1014 NOSIG
23:57:05 <lambdabot> KOAK 262253Z 28012KT 10SM SCT033 OVC041 19/10 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP159 T01890100
23:57:10 <shachaf> Do you think bazel has the right philosophy for how build systems should work?
23:57:27 <fizzie> (It's been so warm today. It's still 24.6 degrees in here.)