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00:11:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Magic-1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52357 * B jonas * (+4121) Created page with "'''Magic-1''' is a unique home-built microcomputer with a custom CPU. It was designed and developped mainly by Bill Buzbee. The hardware was built between 2005 and 2006, the..."
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00:14:28 <__kerbal__> Ok, Integbot is running
00:15:41 <__kerbal__> ;integ 8096373705231173873515698288105814457559349996780213465927102169635143836763371455511239714251901656919412172053510347251766358525837584663686083361012968763343440510359069137201087033274943221529093137894442823663461959335745044107344)](125)](40)](41)](40)~(?({(@()))(1)())(}(+(1)(@()))(/({(@()))(10)))~(?(@())(1)())(_(@())](+(48)(%({(@()))(10))))~(](+(37)(%({())(90)))/(1)(}()(/({())(90))))()
00:15:58 <__kerbal__> sorry, wrong channel
00:19:08 <__kerbal__> int-e: I couldn't get your Integ quine to work for some reason. Maybe I have the wrong link
00:20:04 <__kerbal__> Did you do it in the standalone interpreter? If so, a glitch may be preventing it from working
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00:34:30 <shachaf> `olist 1078
00:34:31 <HackEgo> olist 1078: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
00:35:07 <Sgeo__> Good day. New OOTS + understanding Rust well enough to do a thing I've wanted to do for years in Rust
00:41:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52358&oldid=52320 * Kerbal * (+81)
00:41:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52359&oldid=52358 * Kerbal * (+0)
00:42:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52360&oldid=52359 * Kerbal * (+0)
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00:59:02 <__kerbal__> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie."
00:59:06 <__kerbal__> I prefer "n00b"
00:59:32 <alercah> `addquote <__kerbal> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie."
00:59:34 <HackEgo> 1313) <__kerbal> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie."
00:59:38 <alercah> `revert
00:59:39 <HackEgo> Done.
00:59:45 <alercah> `addquote <__kerbal> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie." <__kerbal__> I prefer "n00b"
00:59:47 <HackEgo> 1313) <__kerbal> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie." <__kerbal__> I prefer "n00b"
01:05:56 <oerjan> `sled quotes//1313s,l,l__,
01:05:59 <HackEgo> quotes//<Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ <Quas_NaArt> Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... <Quas_NaArt> More practice is in order. \ <AnMaster> that's where I got it <AnMaster> rocket launch facility gift shop \ <Warrigal> GKennethR: he shou
01:06:07 <oerjan> `quote 1313
01:06:08 <HackEgo> 1313) <__kerbal__> oerjan: I object to being called a "newbie." <__kerbal__> I prefer "n00b"
01:06:56 <oerjan> __kerbal__: i don't generally use that style of spelling hth
01:13:20 <__kerbal__> you should
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01:25:04 <oerjan> i also have principles against claims expressed with "should" hth
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01:26:12 <shachaf> oerjan: see http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/epistemologicalNightmare.html hth
01:28:25 <oerjan> THAT'S IRRELEPHANT
01:28:48 <shachaf> there's a discussion of the word "should" around halfway through hth
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01:30:52 <oerjan> my haziness prevents me from reading that far, especially since i've already read (at least some of) that before and find it grating.
01:35:25 <__kerbal__> That's not confusing at all
01:37:23 <__kerbal__> " Really? It doesn't even seem that it seems red to me? It sure seems like it seems like it seems red to me!"
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01:53:11 <quintopia> oerjan: do you have the same aversion to "shouldn't"?
01:57:39 <oerjan> ER
01:58:05 <oerjan> obviously.
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02:08:30 <fizzie> Just so you know, the upcoming fungot outage is due to a planned maintenance window.
02:08:31 <fungot> fizzie: you get too far as i could, but we need to get that " video games, but
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02:09:17 <fizzie> (And the quit message is because it's running through a bouncer to work around the "can't reconnect automatically" misfeature.)
02:12:42 <oerjan> same bouncer that Gregor uses, it seems.
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02:13:31 <fizzie> fungot: Are you feeling okay?
02:13:31 <fungot> fizzie: fnord i've always had a studly soundcard ( gus?) or something. :p))
02:13:37 <fizzie> I guess as okay as always.
02:15:09 <fizzie> We had a company summer party thing, two people asked about the fungot shirt again.
02:15:10 <fungot> fizzie: also lisp in general). they were the start of the isr to the right? i.e. is the eip value?
02:15:53 <shachaf> What does fungot need a soundcard for, let alone a studly one?
02:15:53 <fungot> shachaf: it would get bigger in time and attach a debugger and hack it a bit
02:16:00 <shachaf> fair enough
02:18:03 <__kerbal__> Where do you get fungot shirts?
02:18:03 <fungot> __kerbal__: it contains several esolang puzzles in it this year!
02:18:21 <__kerbal__> That didn't answer my question, by ok
02:18:24 <__kerbal__> but
02:18:28 <Hoolootwo> I would buy one
02:18:33 <ais523> you can't normally expect fungot to meaningfully answer your question
02:18:33 <fungot> ais523: your mind suddenly finds your dumb mistakes. i've never used scheme for software development and therefore know nothing about astronomy?
02:18:45 <__kerbal__> ais523: I know
02:18:52 <__kerbal__> One wishes
02:19:03 <__kerbal__> But, in all seriousness, where would you get one?
02:19:20 <ais523> there are companies who'll make arbitrary T-shirts for you, I'm sure they'd be willing to make a fungot shirt
02:19:20 <fungot> ais523: tough to find wooden shoes in portland, oregon.
02:20:00 <__kerbal__> true
02:20:02 <__kerbal__> fungot
02:20:02 <fungot> __kerbal__: you haven't seen it. i've done quite a lot of stupid in learning, the wheat/ chaff split is being able to load that. page. :p
02:21:21 <fizzie> __kerbal__: ais523: I got a free "print your own T-shirt" coupon from a thing for one of those companies, and used them.
02:23:29 <__kerbal__> ah
02:24:03 <__kerbal__> What algorithm does fungot use?
02:24:03 <fungot> __kerbal__: i only occasionally glance at c.l.s to remind myself of how they all work fine.
02:24:51 <ais523> __kerbal__: markov chains
02:25:06 <fizzie> It's got https://zem.fi/tmp/fungot_shirt_front.png printed on it, except in theory the black part is transparent, on a naturally black shirt.
02:25:06 <fungot> fizzie: hmmm... a minikanren talk but no presentations by oleg? s pages first. eh.) period when 50 of the fnord swastika and the zen ss"
02:26:48 <fizzie> Couldn't fit all of it in and keep it readable, so it's just the babbling bit.
02:27:01 <Hoolootwo> hmm, I've seen that before, what is that code?
02:27:13 <fizzie> It's just fungot.
02:27:13 <fungot> fizzie: the c you can read the logs first
02:27:44 <Hoolootwo> oh, I see
02:28:30 <__kerbal__> That's actually a really neat design
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02:34:31 <fizzie> I can definitely recommand https://rapanuiclothing.com/custom-printed-mens-t-shirts/ if you need a custom-printed shirt, the print quality was pretty nice. The process they use doesn't result in super-sharp lines, but it also doesn't look/feel like it's a sticker on top of the fabric.
02:40:15 <Hoolootwo> if I did, I'd go local
02:42:07 <fizzie> Sure, that's maybe a more relevant recommendation for the other UKers.
02:42:30 <ais523> why does a UK company have a web page ending .com? :-(
02:44:09 <fizzie> Hwy, BBC's website redirected me to a .bbc.com URL today.
02:44:24 <fizzie> s/Hwy/Hey/
02:45:49 <fizzie> Normally it sticks to bbc.co.uk but for some settings it took me to account.bbc.com or some such.
02:46:35 <fizzie> (Thought I'd do that account setup since iPlayer keeps reminding me they'll make it mandatory sooner or later.)
02:50:04 <Hoolootwo> you can have any TLD you want, if the TLD allows it
02:53:01 <fizzie> I like the conventional .ac.uk names, they're often delightfully short.
02:53:24 <fizzie> ox.ac.uk, cam.ac.uk, shef.ac.uk and so on.
02:54:39 <fizzie> I had a coauthor with a @dcs.shef.ac.uk email. Very retro.
02:54:41 <ais523> my workplace was bham.ac.uk for ages
02:54:50 <ais523> but they decided to change to birmingham.ac.uk for some reason
02:54:56 <ais523> email is still bham.ac.uk, though, thankfully
02:57:03 <fizzie> Ours changed from hut.fi to tkk.fi (from the English to the Finnish abbreviation), and then to aalto.fi for the merging/rebranding. Maybe that's fair, can't really meaningfully shorten "aalto".
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03:00:34 <oerjan> . o O ( they were the same for ages, and then *BHAM* they changed )
03:01:27 <Hoolootwo> we used to have uiuc.edu but now we have illinois.edu which is annoying
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03:14:35 <zzo38> Sacrifice a permanent that is attached to ~: ~ deals damage to target creature or player equal to converted mana cost of sacrificed permanent.
03:21:26 <zzo38> It is the idea. Possibly also: You control all permanents that are attached to ~.
03:27:29 <ais523> zzo38: now I'm wondering how that second ability interacts with a Control Magic effect
03:28:05 <ais523> like, if I control a creature "You control all permanents that are attached to ~", and you cast an aura "You control enchanted creature" on it, who ends up controlling what?
03:30:40 <zzo38> It is a layer 2 effect. The effect with the earliest timestamp applies first. I think that the Aura will now be controlled by the same controller as "You control all permanents that are attached to ~" because the Aura has a later timestamp. (I don't know if there is a way using existing cards and this new one to reverse the order of the timestamps)
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09:27:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52361&oldid=52360 * Int-e * (+480) /* Quine */
09:29:26 <int-e> @tell __kerbal__ I've added the quine to the Integ page; the thing you tried was a mispaste of a 474 character quine (missing the first 80 characters) that turned out to be too long for IRC after all.
09:29:26 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
09:41:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zayne]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52362&oldid=52354 * Zayne * (+118)
09:41:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zayne]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52363&oldid=52362 * Zayne * (+12) /* Interpreters Made */
09:42:46 <oerjan> . o O ( you can't be Zayne, that's boily's job )
09:44:40 <int-e> that's inzayne
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09:45:47 <int-e> noitdoesntello
09:48:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52364 * Zayne * (+767) Created page with "2017 is a programming language created by [[User:Zayne|Zayne]], loosely based off of 2014, it was made only to be used in the year 2017. If the year isn't 2017 then it will er..."
09:48:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2014]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52365&oldid=41562 * Zayne * (+23)
09:48:51 <oerjan> `2017
09:48:58 <HackEgo> Hello, world!
09:49:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52366&oldid=52364 * Zayne * (+6)
09:50:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zayne]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52367&oldid=52363 * Zayne * (+60)
09:50:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52368&oldid=52366 * Zayne * (+2)
09:51:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52369&oldid=52368 * Zayne * (+0) /* See Also */
09:51:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2014]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52370&oldid=52365 * Zayne * (+2) /* See Also */
09:54:25 <int-e> I wonder, am I the only one who finds this wikipedia UI element confusing? http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/active_tab%3f.png
09:58:05 <oerjan> heh
09:58:37 <oerjan> i do sometimes use that to go to the current revision from an old one.
09:58:57 <Cale> int-e: It's weird when you consider it alongside the other tabstrip to the right
09:59:07 <oerjan> or from an edit page, or the like
10:00:21 <int-e> I do use it to get to the current page, but it takes me a conscious effort to recall that even though it looks like the rider of the currently displayed "tab", it really isn't.
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10:25:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hardfuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52371 * Zayne * (+4354) Created page with "'''Hardfuck''' is a [[Brainfuck]] derivative created by [[User:Zayne|Zayne]] (why am I not surprised) and as the name suggests it is supposed to be harder than Brainfuck. == C..."
10:26:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zayne]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52372&oldid=52367 * Zayne * (+17) /* My Esolangs (including jokes) */
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15:12:58 <__kerbal__> int-e: What version of the interpreter are you testing the quine with?
15:13:33 <__kerbal__> int-e: Let me try again
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15:17:36 <__kerbal__> Wait... I see. It's chopping off the end of the quine. Let me try the offline version
15:22:17 <__kerbal__> int-e: Ok, it works now.
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16:15:03 <zzo38> What is the address of the "2017 server"? I made up a implementation of joke program language "2017", but it should need to specify the "2017 server"; currently it just uses localhost but it should be changed to the proper address of the server.
16:15:54 <myname> obviously, it has ipv4 address 2017
16:16:31 <zzo38> Doesn't work.
16:16:52 <ais523> is a valid IPv4 address, but I have no idea who owns it
16:17:25 <zzo38> I just tried 2017, although now I tried and that doesn't work either.
16:17:40 <myname> too bad
16:17:56 <ais523> perhaps there isn't such a server tey?
16:17:58 <ais523> *yet
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16:18:07 <quintopia> just pick any server that returns the date and time
16:18:17 <quintopia> some NIST server maybe
16:19:24 <zzo38> What is the address of the NIST server?
16:20:25 <quintopia>
16:20:56 <zzo38> Thank you, it work
16:21:48 <quintopia> its far away from you geographically, but i think the extra time wasted is in the spirit of the language
16:22:23 <zzo38> OK
16:22:28 <__kerbal__> Are you referring to https://esolangs.org/wiki/2017 ?
16:23:20 <ais523> wow that page is horribly formatted
16:23:23 <ais523> give me a moment
16:23:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52373&oldid=52369 * Zzo38 * (+768) Make implementation
16:23:43 <zzo38> __kerbal__: Yes
16:23:51 <__kerbal__> ah
16:25:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[2017]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52374&oldid=52373 * Ais523 * (+28) clean up the formatting a bit
16:27:45 <ais523> wow, that was an automatically resolved edit conflict
16:27:51 <ais523> how often does /that/ happen on esolangs.org?
16:28:50 <zzo38> I don't know?
16:30:10 <ais523> my guess is almost never
16:30:14 <ais523> there's a chance this was the first time ever
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18:19:05 <__kerbal__> Integ's getting a package system. I'm testing it over at #esoteric-blah
18:19:57 <__kerbal__> if anyone is interested
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18:50:36 <__kerbal__> fungot
18:50:36 <fungot> __kerbal__: or something like that, that's an 8-bit character encoding
19:09:02 <\oren\> Happy Canada Day Everyone
19:17:39 <zzo38> Can you answer these quiz of Canada Day: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/canada.day
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20:01:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Hardfuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52375 * Kerbal * (+246) Created page with "I think that a subset of hardf*** (the subset not including @ and \) is almost exactly equivalent to brainf***. Therefore, hardf*** is almost undoubtedly Turing-complete. ~~~~"
20:02:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Hardfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52376&oldid=52375 * Kerbal * (+0)
20:03:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Hardfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52377&oldid=52376 * Kerbal * (+19)
20:05:15 <shachaf> something about bricks and brains
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20:27:19 <rdococ> seriously, hardfuck?
20:34:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52378&oldid=52349 * B jonas * (+29)
20:34:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:B jonas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52379&oldid=52351 * B jonas * (-61)
20:36:17 <zzo38> Do you know these questions?
20:37:49 <shachaf> I am not Canada.
20:38:52 <int-e> . o O ( not glorious nor free )
20:39:11 <myname> "i'm gonna make bf harder by giving it more shortcut commands!"?
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21:17:37 <rdococ> hyumans
21:17:42 <rdococ> `? hooman
21:17:45 <HackEgo> hooman? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:20:22 <fizzie> Before / after: https://zem.fi/tmp/cover.jpg
21:20:26 <fizzie> (Went for a walk.)
21:28:22 <int-e> is that a flying pig...
21:29:34 <fizzie> Yes.
21:29:40 <fizzie> An inflatable one.
21:32:20 <int-e> seems that only two of the chimneys were in use?
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22:23:39 <Taneb> fizzie, is that Battersea?
22:26:48 <fizzie> Taneb: Yep.
22:41:38 <fizzie> In case it wasn't clear, the left side is the cover of the Pink Floyd album Animals.
22:45:12 <zzo38> Now I wrote the specification for Unusenet.
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23:29:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Integ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52380&oldid=52361 * Kerbal * (-20)
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