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00:55:31 <boily> I hate Adobe with the force of a thousand mammoths.
00:55:45 <boily> bonsœirjan. are you on a caffeine high?
01:23:14 <oerjan> i _do_ seem to have a craving for eating more chocolate beans.
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03:13:14 <HackEgo> 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 is an empty chess board in FEN.
03:13:51 <oerjan> hm did i reset dns after the last time i had to use 8.8.8.8
03:13:59 <boilyphone> Manual editing of resolv conf works for now.
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03:15:47 <oerjan> argh windows has removed it from the menu i use to get to it from
03:16:23 <oerjan> oh there was a link inside the thing it shows instead
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13:29:12 <b_jonas> Pre-decimalizatoin measures really suck
13:30:48 <b_jonas> A great example is in Verne's "Voyage au centre de la terre", when Axel is lost and is talking to his uncle Lidenbrock through magical echos (that magic is later reused in Mathias Sandorf),
13:32:28 <b_jonas> they measure the ping time, find that it's 40 second, and from that they conclude that since the speed of sound is 1020 feet per second, they must be one and a half and an eighth leagues apart.
13:33:16 <b_jonas> I'm so glad I don't have to deal with any of that nonsense, we have decimal units for everything and logarithms.
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13:42:25 <fizzie> b_jonas: Decimal units for larger-than-second intervals of time as well?
13:55:25 <b_jonas> fizzie: we use those when we want to synchronize something to the cycle of days or weeks or months or years, eg. I go to work every weekday morning, get my wages every month, go skiing usually once a year, etc.
13:55:53 <b_jonas> But when that is not necessary, then I can just use seconds for any measurement.
13:56:07 <b_jonas> And yes, this isn't perfect.
13:57:09 <b_jonas> I'm still reading science stuff that talks about geology and biology stuff that happened a million years ago, and sometimes
13:58:04 <b_jonas> even things about whether the universe is 12 billion years old or twice as much, despite that the solar system and earth's rotation didn't even exist back then.
13:58:09 <b_jonas> We should use seconds for that.
13:58:33 <b_jonas> Still, this is much better than what people had many years ago.
13:58:48 <fizzie> The fact that km/h and m/s are both widely used and have a non-power-of-10 conversion factor is annoying.
13:59:23 <b_jonas> fizzie: and I'm charged for electricity in kilowatthours
14:00:06 <b_jonas> and my blood pressure is measured in millimeters of mercury
14:00:18 <fizzie> I can only really grok "travel speed" in km/h and "wind speed" in m/s (as in, what's fast and what's not), since those are the customary units for them in Finland.
14:00:40 <b_jonas> and food stuff in kilocalories, which is like 4.2 kilojoules or something
14:00:47 <fizzie> (Of course here wind speeds are either in knots or miles/hour...)
14:01:26 <fizzie> (More often the latter.)
14:03:16 <b_jonas> Wind speed is given for laypeople in km/h here when they give a number: http://www.met.hu/idojaras/elorejelzes/magyarorszagi_telepulesek/index.php
14:03:35 <b_jonas> but more often they use the non-numeric categories for the wind speed instead
14:05:35 <b_jonas> let me try to find a list of those
14:06:01 <b_jonas> oh, and air pressure is in hectopascal
14:09:41 <b_jonas> https://www.met.hu/ismertetok/viharjelzesi_fokozatok.pdf lists them. it's called Beaufort-scale
14:10:10 <b_jonas> https://www.met.hu/ismertetok/Beaufort-skala.pdf too
14:10:24 <b_jonas> the latter is more relevant
14:10:53 <b_jonas> gives the terms and the corresponding wind speeds in three different units of measurement
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14:52:56 <HackEgo> Salvage \ G \ Sorcery \ Put target card from your graveyard on top of your library. \ P2-C \ \ Salvage Drone \ U \ Creature -- Eldrazi Drone \ 1/1 \ Devoid (This card has no color.) \ Ingest (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player exiles the top card of his or her library.) \ When Salvage Drone dies, you may draw a car
14:54:09 <HackEgo> Remedy \ 1W \ Instant \ Prevent the next 5 damage that would be dealt this turn to any number of target creatures and/or players, divided as you choose. \ VI-C, 6E-C
14:56:34 <b_jonas> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/klorp -- this one is totally real. there are advertisments here about a mineral and trace element supplement pill with two different variants, one for men and one for women.
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18:57:06 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53798&oldid=53743 * Intrepion * (+224)
18:57:19 <esowiki> [[BranFlakes]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53799 * Intrepion * (+23) Redirected page to [[Brainfuck]]
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18:57:51 <esowiki> [[Branflakes]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53800 * Intrepion * (+23) Redirected page to [[Brainfuck]]
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19:15:40 <esowiki> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53801&oldid=53680 * Intrepion * (+13)
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19:26:58 <fizzie> I've never heard it called "BranFlakes".
19:28:35 <fizzie> Looks like there's a few cases on the webs though.
19:28:47 <fizzie> (And also an implementation by that name, but that's maybe not surprising.)
19:29:17 <fizzie> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/137821653/ for example.
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20:49:18 <\oren\> imagine if you defined every variable as auto, every function as template <typename X> and used tuples everywhere
20:49:40 <\oren\> you would then have a barbarian dialect of C++ without any types
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