00:13:55 <fizzie> int-e: Played around with some of this stuff. Setting up a systemd-nspawn container was pretty neat, but turns out it's not that simple to run a command inside the active container with stdin/stdout outside it. "systemd-run --quiet --pty --wait --machine=X ..." almost manages, but the PTY confuses some bit along the way. There's a promising "--pipe" flag in later versions, but not in the Debian stretch
00:14:04 <fizzie> (My config push thing is based on bundling the data and metadata into a standalone Python script that carefully drops files in place if there's no conflicts, and then running "python3 -" over SSH to execute that script.)
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00:28:51 <fizzie> (Raw "systemd-nspawn" can run a command in the container fine, the problem is finding what would run something in the context of an already-spawned thing.)
00:30:26 <fizzie> Looks like there's a lower-level tool called "nsenter" from util-linux that might work.
00:34:20 <zzo38> I have read about now they have the possibility to add the MOR and MXOR commands from MMIX into 64-bit WebAssembly. I think it is good; there is a lot of use of a MOR command, including endianness conversion.
00:53:50 <fizzie> MoonyTheDwarf: I'm considering setting up an instance on the current wiki host.
01:00:04 <fizzie> My weekly copy is current up to March 16, so hopefully it's not missing too much.
01:00:07 <fizzie> (Also that text is black-on-black for me.)
01:02:35 <oerjan> MoonyTheDwarf: that is completely unreadable in my terminal tdnh i had to copy and paste it to see it
01:04:31 <zzo38> On my computer it is visible
01:11:23 <shachaf> That's probably because your computer uses 120V, not 220V like oerjan's.
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01:43:27 <oerjan> shachaf: your explanation has potential
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04:59:57 <imode> why do we have stack machines instead of queue machines.
05:06:55 <zzo38> So that you can call functions to use the data sharing on the same stack.
05:07:25 <imode> but you need two stacks to be turing complete.
05:07:53 <imode> zero/one/infinity rule, dude. you only need one queue. :P
05:16:33 <zzo38> Yes, although Forth has two stacks (some implementations add additional stacks for floating point and so on)
05:35:14 <zzo38> (Also, many stack machines, including Forth, have other memory too.)
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22:32:43 <fizzie> Man, there's a lot of cruft in the HackEgo repository. I may need to trim the history at some point.
22:32:48 <fizzie> There's, for example, node-v7.2.1-linux-x64.tar.xz, node-v0.10.22-linux-x64.tar.gz and factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz. And a fully extracted perl-5.22.2 and a .deb for powershell. And five pastes that are exactly 10 megs each.
22:33:02 <fizzie> (In the future, if you want something bulky, I would ask if you could first ask me to install it on the system instead, or use the unversioned space.)
22:43:58 <MoonyTheDwarf> can you add factorio. We'd all love to play it on hackego /s
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22:47:28 <fizzie> A lot of things probably won't work (it's on a very minimal system, plus things are different), the web repo browser in particular.
22:47:43 <HackEso> HackEso is almost but not quite unlike HackEgo.
22:53:40 <fizzie> It's got the same multibot bug that it never waits on the child processes, so each command leaves a "[python] <defunct>" zombie. Will have to kludge something to fix that.
22:55:41 <HackEso> 1/3127:11461:2018-04-07 <fizzïe> learn HackEso is almost but not quite unlike HackEgo. \ 11460:2018-03-16 <shachäf> swrjan s/punster/hero/ \ 11459:2018-03-16 <oerjän> rm bin/5? \ 11458:2018-03-16 <shachäf> sled bin/5?//s/1/{1:-w q}/ \ 11457:2018-03-16 <shachäf> sled bin/5?//s/$/ | sport/ \ 11456:2018-03-16 <shachäf> mkx bin/q//quote "$@
22:55:54 <fizzie> I may be missing some changes there.
22:56:15 <shachaf> `slwd HackEso//s/ H/ entirely&/
22:56:22 <shachaf> `slwd hackeso//s/ H/ entirely&/
22:56:24 <HackEso> hackeso//HackEso is almost but not quite unlike entirely HackEgo.
22:57:20 <shachaf> `slwd hackeso//s/t/&,/; s/te/&, entirely/
22:57:22 <HackEso> hackeso//HackEso is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike HackEgo.
22:57:43 <shachaf> That doesn't even make sense.
22:58:24 <shachaf> fizzie: In the future I think people will put bulky things in tmp/
22:58:43 <shachaf> Which probably didn't exist when all those things were added to the history.
23:00:55 <fizzie> That's true, it's a recent invention.
23:01:02 <fizzie> Also I don't have a copy of tmp. :/
23:01:17 <fizzie> I'll make sure it's backed up from this instance, but I didn't think of it for HackEgo.
23:02:43 <shachaf> Well, that's part of the tmp contract.
23:02:57 <shachaf> Can you search the logs for the last instance of ls tmp or similar?
23:03:08 <shachaf> I bet there wasn't much important there.
23:03:11 <fizzie> As soon as I finish this subprocess thing.
23:03:13 <HackEso> Shaventions include: before/now/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1/4/5, edit. Taneb did not invent them yet.
23:04:46 <fizzie> I think I have something that should work, but my local development instance isn't working at all for some reason. I'll just... test in production, I guess.
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23:05:21 <MoonyTheDwarf> fizzie, we both know umlbox is one of the most finicky things ever invented. I'm not suprised :p
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23:05:51 <shachaf> #esoteric is production now?!
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23:06:19 <fizzie> shachaf: Well, relatively speaking.
23:07:01 <HackEso> Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, Italian, the grace period, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex.
23:07:14 <HackEso> special relativity? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:07:22 <shachaf> Did Taneb also invent general relativity?
23:07:53 <fizzie> shachaf: Turns out last `ls tmp is actually just "paste \ spline \ spout", because oerjan recently cleaned everything from there.
23:08:14 <MoonyTheDwarf> but if taneb invented the universe, by sideeffect he invented everything involving sex
23:09:00 <HackEso> This sentence is just. Taneb invented it.
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23:09:52 <zzo38> MoonyTheDwarf: I don't think so, it mean he "meta-invented" such thing, maybe
23:10:24 <MoonyTheDwarf> meta-invention is a superset of invention. So by downreference, he invented it.
23:10:37 <zzo38> O, in that case, OK
23:11:51 <zzo38> Then what doesn't the Tanebventions list also include paradox?
23:13:52 <MoonyTheDwarf> because if taneb invented the universe, but didn't invent the paradox, that's a paradox, and so is this statement
23:19:48 <fizzie> Hmm. I don't have a copy of the CaC hackego.esolangs.org nginx configuration. :/
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23:38:43 <fizzie> The web stuff will probably have to wait until later. I can't even remember whether I used uWSGI or fcgiwrap or something else to serve it.
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