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01:50:28 <zzo38> QuickBASIC is using @ for 64-bit fixed-point.
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04:08:33 <zzo38> Using ? in BASIC is only an abbreviation for PRINT, so using as a type sigil too should not cause an ambiguity. (Although, I would probably using the new sigil for 8-bit variables, rather than bignums, I think; you could use DIM ... AS for many other types anyways
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07:53:56 <oerjan> i seem to have got a bunch of mail bounces for someone sending spam with my address :/
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12:23:19 <wob_jonas> At my past job, the company had multiple rooms that each open to a public corridor in an office building that isn't exclusive to the company. These rooms had different keys for the door locks. In order that the company doesn't have to give keys for every room to every employee to every room, but only to the rooms they usually use, there are some ke
12:23:19 <wob_jonas> ys that are kept in certain rooms for accessing other rooms,
12:24:38 <wob_jonas> and those keys are supposed to be returned to the prior room. The keys have tags, and these tags display what room they open. But IMO the tags should also list which room the key is stored in, so you know where to return it. Is there a convention for how to format such a label with two room numbers or room descriptions in a clear way?
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13:43:25 <wob_jonas> oerjan: you were right about DMM. http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/draakslair/viewtopic.php?p=169770
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14:47:25 <int-e> yay another GDPR mail... in actual GREEK! (I'm assuming it's about the GDPR because that's mentioned in the subject)
14:48:34 <wob_jonas> I got some too. I think there are even phishing emails that refer to that thing and ask you to accept the modified terms of service.
14:49:27 <wob_jonas> I still don't understand what the big deal is about GDPR. Its rules are basically the same as we already had, the only significant change I understand is that they'll try to force it on providers from outside of Europe if they collect data from Europe.
14:50:58 <int-e> wob_jonas: the GDPR has (some) people scrambling to get the "informed optin" that the GDPR asks for
14:51:33 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, but that was already a thing required everywhere
14:51:45 <int-e> so basically, people who are trying to operate legally and used to rely on obscure checkboxes (or the like) on third party websites years ago as "opt in"
14:51:46 <wob_jonas> I think websites are just using the popularity to send advertisment emails
14:52:00 <wob_jonas> which is basically the opposite of the spirit of the laws
14:52:10 <fizzie> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GDPR_(General_Data_Protection_Regulation)_and_MediaWiki_software should probably have a look at this at some point
14:52:52 <int-e> wob_jonas: when has the spirit of the law ever mattered when the letter of the law had holes?
14:53:19 <wob_jonas> but the GDPR hasn't changed that either
14:53:24 <fizzie> I got that one GDPR email that was also in the hall of shame, the one that was disguised as order confirmation.
14:54:10 <fizzie> wob_jonas: https://gdprhallofshame.com/3-order-confirmation-gdpr/
14:55:10 <fizzie> "We’d like to unreservedly apologise for sending this email to some customers that received it."
14:55:20 <fizzie> Note that they're not apologizing to everyone who received it, only some.
14:55:38 <int-e> I have one really odd one so far, where a company claims that the data record they're using comes from themselves... and I've never heard of the company before. Oh and they are not asking for opt-in, they're offering opt-out.
14:55:56 <int-e> which irritates me quite a bit
14:56:23 <wob_jonas> int-e: like I said, some of those are spam ads or phishing
14:56:41 <int-e> It's clearly spam.
14:58:20 <int-e> I think that's a case where I'll take them up on their offer to explain how they got that email address and what other data they have on me.
14:59:25 <wob_jonas> int-e: is that a good idea? if they're sending spam, that will just make them send you more spam. unless you're prepared to go very far and sue them at courts or something.
14:59:55 <wob_jonas> as in, they'll sell the email address of people who follow links in that email to other people to send spam
15:00:07 <int-e> I don't really mind getting spam that much... if I would, I wouldn't still be using an email address that I used on usenet in the late 90s and early 00s
15:00:44 <wob_jonas> int-e: sure, I don't usually mind spam either, but I don't encourage it by contacting spammers
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16:42:32 <int-e> . o O ( so... why is www.softwareheritage.org not accessible without Javascript? On the plus side, the actual archive at https://archive.softwareheritage.org/ seems to work fine... )
16:43:09 <int-e> . o O ( ...until you try to actually search something )
17:17:33 <Lymia> The worst thing since sliced bread
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17:27:10 <fizzie> Web 3.11 for Workgroups is much better.
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18:41:49 <\oren\> apparently a "pathetic fallacy" doesn't mean a "pitifully bad logical error"
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19:25:55 <zzo38> I once saw someone suggested, what if your character can see the author's room? I might imagine that Ziveruskex may think, he must be very rich to have so many books
19:39:00 <esowiki> [[XTW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55597&oldid=53463 * Zseri * (+35) /* new Syntax elements */ fix table caption
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20:32:13 <zzo38> Sometimes the printer on my computer does not work; would it work to connect a Raspberry Pi computer to the same router of my computer and then connect that to the USB printer and then use the ethernet to send the print job?
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21:22:56 <arseniiv> printers are definitely black magic, I haven’t seen any other device comparable
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21:26:01 <zzo38> When it works, it works perfectly OK. When it does not work, it can result in the computer saying the printer is not ready, and/or uninterruptible processes, and/or kernel panics.
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22:43:32 <arseniiv> (fungot is silent—how is it possible, is it ill?)
22:43:32 <fungot> arseniiv: i don't really know much about them
22:44:25 <fungot> arseniiv: ( ( okay i i this is my second one too
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23:07:08 <quintopia> we never did play a game. tell me when.
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23:14:02 <boily> I got a new machine to play games on :D
23:15:04 <fungot> boily: i collect glass fnord you know other things that
23:16:06 <quintopia> we could not starve together. i know another guy who has it now.
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23:34:32 <boily> nah, it ubuntues. windows didn't want to be installed.
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