00:57:16 <Sgeo_> I wonder if WebAssembly could be compiled to 6502
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02:19:33 <doesthiswork> I greped for a phrase and the first result was .bash history of me greping the phrase
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07:19:58 <zzo38> Here is one new idea of Magic: the Gathering card: As a special action you can sacrifice a permanent that is a target of a spell or ability controlled by an opponent.
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09:46:06 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I think making that a special action rather than a bog standard triggered ability on the card won't pull its weight. Most of the time there'll be no difference from a trigger, and many of the times when they differ, having a special action there will seem bad for the enjoyment of the game.
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14:03:52 <devhenZv> mwilson: If I knew all of the inner-workings of LS, then I wouldn't be here asking for assistance with a "Hello World" for rule creation. If you needed somebody to take your rage out on for the day, you could have just said so.
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16:10:08 <zzo38> Actually I think you are right a triggered ability would be better in this case.
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16:11:42 <wob_jonas> zzo38: and with the triggered ability, that's something you find on a lot of old cards, but deliberately not on new cards. there's always some effect the trigger gives, but sometimes it's not very useful.
16:12:11 <wob_jonas> Let me try to find what creature does it for cheap mana cost.
16:12:36 <wob_jonas> Well, they allow sacrificing any creature, not just one targeted, but so what.
16:16:34 <HackEso> Dross Hopper \ 1B \ Creature -- Insect Horror \ 2/1 \ Sacrifice a creature: Dross Hopper gains flying until end of turn. \ SOM-C
16:16:51 <wob_jonas> That one seems typical. It's much harder if you don't want to pay black for it.
16:17:59 <HackEso> Bloodthrone Vampire \ 1B \ Creature -- Vampire \ 1/1 \ Sacrifice a creature: Bloodthrone Vampire gets +2/+2 until end of turn. \ ROE-C, M11-C, M13-C, MM2-C, DDP-C
16:20:02 <HackEso> Fanatical Devotion \ 2W \ Enchantment \ Sacrifice a creature: Regenerate target creature. \ NE-C
16:21:41 <wob_jonas> And if you need colorless, then Spawning Pit may be the best bet. It's a Darksteel uncommon.
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16:22:25 <zzo38> OK, I have seen that stuff. Mine is a bit different, being a triggered rather than activated ability, although it could have another power too in order that it make better, such as having some effect when you sacrifice a permanent (perhaps due to anything), or when a permanent you control dies (due to anything), or maybe something else.
16:22:49 <wob_jonas> In a pinch you can use some spot removal or burn spell instead too.
16:22:54 <zzo38> I did once make up something like Fanatical Devotion except it said "permanent" instead of "creature" in both cases.
16:24:06 <wob_jonas> Reknit can regenerate any permanent. Making it so easily repeatable would be too overpowered, it would lead to infinite combos too easily.
16:24:30 <wob_jonas> Triggering is even more dangerous in that respect.
16:24:58 <zzo38> I suppose you are probably correct.
16:25:05 <wob_jonas> And triggering on your creatures getting targeted? That's the easiest way to make a cheap combo deck. It's so easy even I have done it.
16:25:24 <wob_jonas> Mind you, just triggering to sacrifice it with no additional effects wouldn't be too bad.
16:25:29 <wob_jonas> But anything useful and it gets out of hand.
16:26:16 <wob_jonas> They only dared to print the cheapest effect, which is giving the same creature or sometimes some other creature a toughness boost, but even that makes it too easy to assemble an infinite life combo that I can reliably pull off between third and fifth turns inclusive.
16:26:46 <wob_jonas> Hmm wait, how did your card go? Did you only trigger on an effect controlled by an opponent?
16:27:02 <wob_jonas> "a permanent that is a target of a spell or ability controlled by an opponent."
16:29:06 <zzo38> Yes that is why I did that way
16:29:13 <wob_jonas> they used that trick to put stupid counterintuitive processor costs in Battle for Zendikar without breaking eternal formats. I don't like it in that case, but with just sacrificing the creature, you can get away with it.
16:29:32 <wob_jonas> Also, there are illusion creatures that have a trigger to die if it's targeted built in, in blue and black
16:30:47 <HackEso> Skulking Ghost \ 1B \ Creature -- Spirit \ 2/1 \ Flying \ When Skulking Ghost becomes the target of a spell or ability, sacrifice it. \ MI-C, EMA-C
16:30:54 <wob_jonas> that one isn't an Illusion technically
16:31:34 <wob_jonas> blue also has sort of the opposite effect, Shimmering creatures in the Kamigawa block
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23:08:32 <zzo38> Why does SQLite use chapter 4 of the Rule of Saint Benedict as their Code of Conduct? Much of it is not applicable to software development, and they admit nobody can comply perfectly anyways, and also some statements are meaningless to non-Christians. At least, they say "Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone."
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23:59:56 <doesthiswork> John Shutt has a proposal for a better esolang wiki http://fexpr.blogspot.com/2018/10/lisp-mud-and-wikis.html