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00:37:28 <zzo38> What code is that?
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04:29:41 <zzo38> Do you like my program GLUZMA?
04:29:56 <zzo38> If there is any bug in the program you can find, please report them.
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05:28:16 <esowiki> [[User talk:FMS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59167&oldid=59156 * Oerjan * (+478) Too bad
05:29:31 * oerjan plays the ball to fizzie, just in case
05:30:18 <zzo38> What kind of ball do you play?
05:32:32 <oerjan> to possibly fix the previous account FMS lost the password for because of a combination of errors
05:40:53 <esowiki> [[User:Cortex/sus++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59168&oldid=59141 * Cortex * (+1689)
05:48:32 <oerjan> hm someone else requesting deletion
05:49:06 <oerjan> i don't quite see the point when they've made only one edit...
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06:02:32 <oerjan> fungot: but you're here!
06:02:32 <fungot> oerjan: vimes stared at his fingers for a moment. then the hogfather leaned back. " you've got to know the dog wuffles, and a hiss of steam from the bowl on to a winner.'
06:03:13 <oerjan> . o O ( but _why_ does the dog wuffle? )
06:34:06 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59169&oldid=59151 * A * (+1105)
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09:46:35 <esowiki> [[QETAN]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59170 * Cortex * (+2030) Created page with "'''QETAN''' (pronounced KAY-tan) is joke esolang created by [[User:Cortex|]]. It is designed to be completely nonsensical in all senses, but still possible to use. The name st..."
09:46:51 <esowiki> [[User:Cortex]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59171&oldid=59133 * Cortex * (+12)
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09:58:09 <zzo38> Zork I contains the instruction "SET 1,VAR(1)" at address 38255. What is the purpose of this? I guess possibly Zilch failed to optimize something (I don't know if ZILF will optimize it out).
10:05:52 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59173&oldid=59169 * A * (-1)
10:06:26 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59174&oldid=59173 * A * (+34) /* Syntax */
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10:14:30 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59175&oldid=59174 * A * (+105)
10:20:39 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59176 * A * (+1556) Created page with "Note: [[Printscript]] has too much information, so this page is created. ==New Syntax== Printscript Version 5 supports comments(both one-line and multi-line). One line commen..."
10:22:46 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59177&oldid=59175 * A * (+16)
10:24:10 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59178&oldid=59177 * A * (+91)
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10:34:27 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59181&oldid=59178 * A * (+47)
10:36:28 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59182&oldid=59180 * A * (+18)
10:36:40 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59183&oldid=59181 * A * (+18)
10:39:02 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59184&oldid=59182 * A * (+1) /* See also */
10:41:42 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59185&oldid=59183 * A * (+44)
10:43:50 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59186&oldid=59185 * A * (+51)
10:45:30 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59187&oldid=59184 * A * (+49) Fix the comments.
10:46:28 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59188&oldid=59187 * A * (+4)
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11:29:57 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59189&oldid=59188 * A * (+1960)
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11:54:08 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59192&oldid=59191 * A * (+33)
11:58:55 <esowiki> [[Printscript 5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59193&oldid=59192 * A * (+18) /* See also */
12:12:48 <esowiki> [[Printscript 9]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59194 * A * (+168) Created page with "Again, there is too much information in [[Printscript 5]]. ==New Syntax== ==Implementation== Version 9 [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:Implemented]] [[Category:2019]]"
12:13:29 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59195&oldid=59186 * A * (+13)
12:13:44 <esowiki> [[Printscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59196&oldid=59195 * A * (-51)
12:25:11 <esowiki> [[Printscript 9]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59197&oldid=59194 * A * (+2774)
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12:39:08 <esowiki> [[Printscript 9]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59199&oldid=59198 * A * (-20)
12:39:20 <myname> "new in version 9: comments"
12:39:35 <myname> it lacks arithmetical operations, though
12:39:37 <esowiki> [[Printscript 9]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59200&oldid=59199 * A * (+0)
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19:16:52 <imode> hamming graphs could prove really useful in HPC. the general schema of a hamming graph really lends itself well to "scaling up and down".
19:19:05 <imode> a complete graph of complete graphs!
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19:37:18 <rain1> I will read up on hamming graphs
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21:00:10 <fungot> b_jonas: wonse jumped, scrabbled at the pile. it sneered. ' heroic eunuchs?'
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21:34:50 <j-bot> Luciole: thanks b_jonas
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21:55:36 <esowiki> [[Talk:Introduction to esolang design]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59203 * Salpynx * (+545) Bump
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22:06:07 <HackEso> Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. Taneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels.
22:06:39 <b_jonas> my hon. and learned friend fungot, in your opinion, how should we deal with dragons?
22:06:39 <fungot> b_jonas: brutha removed his hand. it was long and low, like a gasp. then she woke up shivering. it was not required.'
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22:10:17 <salpynx> Inspired by some recent edits and conversations I thought I'd bump that Intro to esolang design page. No prominent page on the wiki really gives any guidelines about what makes a good esolang
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22:11:18 <b_jonas> salpynx: yeah, it's hard to give such advice, because a good esolang has to be really different from the previous ones
22:11:50 <salpynx> I consider myself pretty new at this sort of thing, and its fun to learn and experiment, so it'd be good if there were more resources to help.
22:12:32 <salpynx> I think I at least tried to do some of my learning in private :D
22:13:55 <b_jonas> you mean as opposed to spamming the wiki with nonsense pages? that's certainly commendable
22:19:14 <salpynx> yeah, and it's making me want to hold off making some frivolous changes that might be interpreted as encouragement.
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22:41:53 <salpynx> A page that covered some basic comp sci terminology and made a distinction about the areas that can be made esoteric -- symbols used, code structure, flow control, computational mechanisms, data representation etc, and how being esoteric in one does not mean you are being interesting in any other way.
22:44:46 <salpynx> also, how punctuation symbols alone != esoteric, and neither necessarily does being awkward with Unicode (which I enjoy, and have been playing with, but am getting to the end of what I think I need to do with that).
22:51:11 <b_jonas> any part can be made esoteric
22:51:37 <b_jonas> even parts we've never thought of yet
22:51:52 <b_jonas> or the parts we have thought can be made esoteric in new ways
22:58:19 <HackEso> monads//Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.
22:58:21 <HackEso> relrod//A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force.
22:58:22 <HackEso> The password of the month is "overreachtorridbittenmandible".
23:01:16 <esowiki> [[Polyglot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59204&oldid=54818 * B jonas * (-5)
23:01:17 <salpynx> b_jonas: providing a starting map would help some good intentioned people go further, quicker
23:04:05 <salpynx> There are some good blog posts with interviews with some people one here I believe? Can't remember how I found those, but that'd be good reading to link to
23:04:50 <esowiki> [[Timeline of esoteric programming languages]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59205&oldid=56051 * B jonas * (+86)
23:05:25 <b_jonas> salpynx: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Ais523 links to one, but there are more interviews with him
23:06:50 <salpynx> That's probably where I found them, via user pages
23:07:22 <b_jonas> ais523: why can't I reach http://c.intercal.org.uk/ ?
23:13:44 <HackEso> measure theory? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:13:54 <HackEso> category theroy? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:14:11 <HackEso> In the theory of categories, category theory is a theory in the category of theories.
23:14:47 <HackEso> halting problem? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:17:32 <HackEso> Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people.
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23:38:26 <esowiki> [[1.1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59206 * B jonas * (+1967) Created page with "'''1.1''' is a Turing-complete esoteric programming language based on string replacement in a string data buffer, arbitrary control flow among states, but without self-modifyi..."
23:38:43 <esowiki> [[User:B jonas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59207&oldid=58759 * B jonas * (-218)
23:39:27 <esowiki> [[User:B jonas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59208&oldid=59207 * B jonas * (+0)
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23:47:30 <salpynx> Maths question, because I think mathematicians lurk here: Taking the Lebesgue measure as an example of a valid "measure on a set", is there a measure X() that returns the abs value of the greatest element of a set, and that will work on sets of size 1 (dimensionality 0) e.g. X({5,1})=5, X({5}) = 5, -- is that a valid measure, or does it fail some criteria?
23:47:39 <salpynx> If I understand it correctly, the Lebesgue measure would give λ*({5,1}) = 4, λ*({5,0}) = 5, but λ*({5}) = 0
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23:52:29 <b_jonas> salpynx: no, it's not a measure according to the usual definition of a measure; yes it fails some criteria; and I don't think you understand that correctly
23:53:01 <salpynx> it X() fails being a measure, _and_ I don't understand <sigh>
23:53:51 <salpynx> what did I get wrong about Lebesgue?
23:55:17 <b_jonas> maybe I just don't understand what you're trying to say about the Lebesgue thing. what are the * stars supposed to mean?
23:55:26 <salpynx> I suspected there was a problem with calling something that gave an answer like X({5}) = 5 would fail being a measure, but I couldn't find examples to figure out why.
23:56:45 <b_jonas> X({5}) = 5 alone isn't a problem
23:56:59 <b_jonas> you said more about X though if I understand right
23:57:01 <salpynx> yeah, the stars are probably wrong. I think I meant simply λ({5,1}) = 4, λ({5,0}) = 5, but λ({5}) where <lambda> is meant to represent a 'standard' Lebesgue measure, i.e the generalised length / area / volume thing
23:59:28 <salpynx> I do want to know / understand why X({5}) is or isn't a valid "measure" according to measure theory, because I was trying to use it to define a "measure space"