00:03:42 <int-e> `learn The password of the month is 68657861646563696D616C.
00:03:44 <HackEso> Relearned 'password': The password of the month is 68657861646563696D616C.
00:03:56 <int-e> (I hope we haven't done that one yet.)
00:04:09 <int-e> (We did have "alphanumeric".)
00:09:31 <oerjan> <int-e> Is there an explanation of the honorable/learned/member/friend etiquette? Does learned refer to some sort of higher education? <-- wikipedia had some. iirc: honorable member = general MP, friend = same party, learned = lawyer
00:09:37 <HackEso> https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/log/tip/wisdom/password
00:10:07 <int-e> monkeystance: it's just a running gag.
00:13:47 * int-e had to google why qjkxbmwvz is a lousy password.
00:15:05 <monkeystance> int-e, I think computerphile has a good video on password security
00:15:53 <fizzie> `` perl -e 'print pack("H*", "68657861646563696D616C");' # just checking
00:18:10 <int-e> monkeystance: you may be overestimating the seriousness of this channel.
00:19:15 <HackEso> brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array
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01:42:33 <oerjan> int-e: also "right" means member of the queen's privy council, a most peculiar body.
01:42:34 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60932&oldid=60931 * Void * (+93)
01:44:18 <oerjan> iirc part of it is the supreme court of some non-UK commonwealth countries (i may be mixing that up)
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02:03:52 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Void * uploaded "[[File:Zmq6w93bbho21.png]]"
02:05:30 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60936&oldid=60934 * Void * (+336)
02:21:39 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Void * uploaded "[[File:Screenshot from 2019-04-09 04-20-58.png]]"
02:24:13 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60938&oldid=60936 * Void * (+162) /* Evolving programs */
02:38:21 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60939&oldid=60938 * Void * (+1883)
02:41:24 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60940&oldid=60939 * Void * (+38) /* The principle of least authority */
02:43:06 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60941&oldid=60940 * Void * (-3)
02:51:37 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Void * uploaded "[[File:Recursivecontrol.png]]"
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02:53:43 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60944&oldid=60941 * Void * (+70) /* Language overview */
02:54:40 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60945&oldid=60944 * Void * (-1) /* Machine cooperation, the very big picture */
03:01:10 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60946&oldid=60945 * Void * (+116) /* Language overview */
03:04:03 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60947&oldid=60946 * Void * (-8) /* Implementations */
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03:24:42 <esowiki> [[90]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60948&oldid=60473 * Ais523 * (+8) editing to fix a link target is fine, but you need to work the new link target into the sentence
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07:03:24 <b_jonas> int-e: https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-04-08.html re explanation of the "hon. and learned friend" and other forms of address
07:06:22 <b_jonas> "<zzo38> Would there be a style of Magic: the Gathering? Would there be a style to use all styles together?" => \? roborosewater for the former, ^style fungot for the latter
07:06:22 <fungot> b_jonas: cyrus! are you leaving! you've got to be joking!?
07:14:45 <HackEso> 423) <fungot> tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today??
07:14:55 <HackEso> 83) <fax> okay I see it now, quines do exist
07:16:00 <HackEso> 918) <shachaf> what are some good concurrency primitives <ais523> shachaf: how primitive do you want?
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08:13:56 <esowiki> [[Text]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60949&oldid=54594 * A * (+217) /* Development of a compiler */
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09:17:54 <esowiki> [[Keg]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60951&oldid=58308 * JonoCode9374 * (+76)
09:20:45 <esowiki> [[Drive-In Window]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60952&oldid=60254 * Dtuser * (+24) The interpreter for this programming language is implemented.
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11:35:19 <fizzie> Things that are just: https://hack.esolangs.org/tmp/paste/paste.15102
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12:08:09 <wob_jonas> I ran into a particularly annoying bug in this software I didn't write, but where the code I wrote exercises the bug that you'd normally not meet, so now I'll have to clean it so that the program doesn't randomly crash later.
12:14:03 <wob_jonas> Apparently I managed to create a corrupt file with some strange operations I did.
12:34:41 <wob_jonas> fizzie: why is indexed monad twice in that?
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12:36:22 <HackEso> Xor is just addition of nimbers.
12:36:23 <HackEso> ^ (also notated by ⊕ or ⊻) is the exclusive-or operator; ∧ (also notated by /\ or &) is the and (conjunction) operator; ^ (also notated by ↑ or ** or ⋆) is the power operator.
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12:57:57 <fizzie> wob_jonas: The file of it has got two lines for some reason, and that's (slightly transformed) what came out of gwrp.
12:58:00 <fizzie> `` wc -l wisdom/'indexed monad'
12:58:50 <HackEso> 3151:2013-06-18 <shachäf> sed -i \'2s/$/./\' wisdom/indexed\\ monad \ 3150:2013-06-17 <shachäf> echo \'Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category\' >> wisdom/\'indexed monad\' \ 3149:2013-06-17 <shachäf> mv \'indexed monad\' wisdom/
12:59:45 <HackEso> Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
12:59:46 <HackEso> Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.
13:00:24 <fizzie> `` find wisdom -type f -exec wc -l '{}' + | grep -v '^ *1 '
13:00:25 <HackEso> 2 wisdom/bdsmreclist \ 0 wisdom/rules of wisdom \ 0 wisdom/funpuns \ 2 wisdom/indexed monad \ 1558 total
13:11:34 <wob_jonas> ``` set -e; cd wisdom; for f in *; do test -e "${f}s" && echo "$f"; done;
13:11:35 <HackEso> emac \ funpun \ justice \ monad \ monoid \ number \ o \ oop \ the u
13:11:37 <HackEso> The eMac, released in 2002, was the first model of Macintosh computer to use electricity.
13:11:39 <HackEso> emacs is the weird brother of nano.
13:11:45 <HackEso> funpuns fceƀ fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
13:11:46 <HackEso> Dhrra Funpuns bs gur Qnja fceƀ fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Ur qbrfa'g xabj jura gb fgbc nfxvat dhrfgvbaf. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
13:12:11 <wob_jonas> ``` \? funpun | tr N-ZA-Mn-za-m A-Za-z
13:12:13 <HackEso> shachaf sprƀ som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
13:12:36 <wob_jonas> ``` \? funpuns | tr N-ZA-Mn-za-m A-Za-z
13:12:37 <HackEso> Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprƀ som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
13:12:41 <HackEso> Justice is just behavior or treatment.
13:12:42 <HackEso> Justices are just members of the Supreme Court.
13:12:47 <HackEso> The number of the hour is 14.
13:12:48 <HackEso> Numbers: 0, 848, 1344, 1696, 1969, 2192, _, 2544, 2688, 2817, _, 3040, _, _, 3313, 3392, ...
13:12:56 <HackEso> Os is the accusative plural of us. Alsø a village in Denmark. Ånd a Norwegian spirit.
13:13:01 <HackEso> OOPS (Obligatory Oblivious PunS) is a variant of OOP.
13:13:02 <HackEso> OOP (Obligatory Opportunistic Pun) is a popular technique for naming things, thus solving zero of the hard problems in computer science.
13:13:06 <HackEso> The U are a very mad people.
13:16:45 <HackEso> Dhrra Funpuns bs gur Qnja fceƀ fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Ur qbrfa'g xabj jura gb fgbc nfxvat dhrfgvbaf. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
13:17:08 <HackEso> 'wisdom/funpuns' -> 'wisdom/funpun'
13:17:11 <HackEso> Dhrra Funpuns bs gur Qnja fceƀ fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Ur qbrfa'g xabj jura gb fgbc nfxvat dhrfgvbaf. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
13:17:15 <HackEso> Dhrra Funpuns bs gur Qnja fceƀ fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Ur qbrfa'g xabj jura gb fgbc nfxvat dhrfgvbaf. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
13:34:49 <wob_jonas> today I learned that when linux added real posix-like threads, they actually made the existing _exit syscall exit just a thread, and added a new syscall called group_exit that exits all threads of the current process, and the libc _exit function actually calls the latter. this is scary.
13:35:26 <wob_jonas> I'm also trying to look up some other details about thread internals, but they're mostly buried deep inside the kernel and libc, so I can't find much
14:01:12 <int-e> Hmm I don't see why this is scary.
14:01:31 <int-e> (threads, yes. but syscall naming?)
15:22:20 <HackEso> test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available.
15:26:30 <fungot> tswett[m]: but cyrus! are you leaving! who the heck are you?! c'mon!!
15:27:17 <fungot> tswett[m]: shall we get back to the present? he's been known. we reptites will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's place...
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17:59:10 <esowiki> [[Polytran]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60955 * Areallycoolusername * (+1547) Created page with "Polytran is an [[esoteric programming language]] that is a mix between [[Polynomial]] and [[Fortran]], made by [[User: Areallycoolusername|Areallycoolusername]]. It was inspir..."
18:27:36 <rain1> I wonder if anyone has gone on https://www.theproofistrivial.com/ and gotten a genuinely valuable insight from it
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19:22:46 <arseniiv> rain1: sometimes it says sensible things e. g. “Just view the problem as a // compact // group // whose elements are // non-degenerate // linear transformations”
19:23:02 <arseniiv> about valuable insights, though…
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20:49:18 <b_jonas> "<int-e> fungot: if you take a wheel of a tricycle, do you get a bicycle then?" => you know that tom7 has done some research on a similar topic, right?
20:49:18 <fungot> b_jonas: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil...
20:49:28 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
20:49:42 <b_jonas> that's not a nice thing to say, fungot
20:49:42 <fungot> b_jonas: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono!
20:51:29 <fizzie> It was also a verbatim quote. This style is prone to do those.
20:51:33 <fungot> Selected style: ff7 (Full script of the game Final Fantasy VII)
20:51:38 <fizzie> Maybe changing games would help.
20:51:53 <fizzie> fungot: Are you more friendly now?
20:51:53 <fungot> fizzie: at least i thought i gave this to the id security check area. the use of getting gossip on everyone? everyone's here?
20:54:21 <fizzie> Heh, that sounds almost like the normal IRC style.
20:56:31 <esowiki> [[Teg]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60957&oldid=60926 * Salpynx * (-53) this is not rewriting, I'm changing the paradigim
20:58:22 <b_jonas> int-e: https://youtu.be/mNTj05I4k5I Unlikely Bikes: The Unibicle (from 2016)
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21:31:00 <b_jonas> I'm looking for airplane tickets, within Europe
21:31:40 <b_jonas> the rules of this airline says that check-in baggage has a maximum size of 1.58 m for sum of length and width and depth. that's actually quite small. I'm not used to such a small limit.
21:32:07 <b_jonas> you can bring oversized luggage, but it costs a lot
21:32:25 <shachaf> Why do people measure things like that?
21:32:53 <b_jonas> shachaf: because they don't want to list like three different sets of three maximum dimensions
21:34:52 <oren> clearly the most efficient shape is a suitcase shaped like a perfect 52 cm cube
21:35:33 <oren> I should start a line of cube shaped baggage products
21:36:12 <b_jonas> shachaf: the local transport in Budapest has the rule that each piece of baggage must be sized at most 0.4x0.5x0.8 or 0.2x0.2x2 meters, and you can take two pieces of such baggage. there are certain exceptions, most importantly for baby carriages.
21:36:50 <b_jonas> this means in effect that many people who carry adult sports equipment or a large musical instrument are technically disobeying the rules
21:37:01 <b_jonas> mind you, this is just one of the many rules that are often disobeyed
21:38:05 <b_jonas> you're technically also not supposed to eat on the buses, and you're only allowed to take dogs if they are either in a box or (on a leash and wearing a muzzle guard)
21:39:08 <b_jonas> oren: it's not so simple, because I also want to put the luggage in the automatic luggage cabins in airports or stations, and such a cube would be hard to fit
21:39:46 <b_jonas> it would also be inconvenient on the train and other transport from and to the airpor
21:45:24 <b_jonas> I'm reading the rules for what you aren't allowed to put in hand luggage, and what you aren't allowed to put in check-in luggage.
21:45:33 <b_jonas> As usual this specifically mentions throwing stars.
21:45:53 <b_jonas> It also says that you aren't allowed to put "billiard, snooker and pool cues" in your hand luggage
21:46:18 <b_jonas> I wonder how you'd fit one in hand luggage anyway
22:01:01 <b_jonas> OK, I booked the airplane for vacation
22:01:18 <b_jonas> that's the cheaper part, I'll also have to book accomodation
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23:42:38 <arseniiv> opened a plenty of new places in BIY and played a level in each, nice
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