00:00:44 <int-e> `sled ../bin/"//s=-r=--r=
00:00:47 <HackEso> ../bin/"//allquotes | grep -P -i -- "$1" | shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom -n 2 | sport
00:00:52 <HackEso> 1/1:325) <oklopol> but touchscreens should feel like poking a boob \ 622) <oklopol> i don't lie, i tell stories <oklopol> there's no difference <oklopol> *a
00:00:59 <HackEso> 1/1:1020) <elliott> beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone \ 995) <elliott> that is better than any made up story i was about to tell
00:03:36 <fizzie> Do you actually need that shuf option?
00:03:53 <fizzie> I mean, I don't mind, just wondering if it's insufficiently random by default.
00:04:40 <int-e> `` echo $(seq 10 | shuf)
00:04:43 <int-e> `` echo $(seq 10 | shuf)
00:05:23 <fizzie> "By default these commands use an internal pseudo-random generator initialized by a small amount of entropy, but can be directed to use an external source with the --random-source=file option. An error is reported if file does not contain enough bytes." https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/Random-sources.html
00:06:17 <fizzie> It doesn't specify where that initialization is coming from, though.
00:06:46 <int-e> context, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/rev/3e54f8d1843f ... let's see the logs
00:10:24 <int-e> fizzie: I guess it's not needed.
00:10:53 <int-e> I copied it from `wisdom without thinking too much about it. Except that I retyped it and messed it up in the process, rather than mechanically copying it.
00:11:07 <int-e> And by `wisdom I mean `quote
00:13:02 <fizzie> Looks like we used the highly rigorous statistical test of oerjan having a feeling in order to prove that the default was insufficiently random.
00:13:12 <HackEso> '(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote
00:13:13 <HackEso> "(1hackeso) - show two random quotes
00:13:16 <HackEso> q(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote
00:13:20 <HackEso> quote(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote \ quote(8lambdabot) - no description
00:13:26 <HackEso> 163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there. <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? <nooga> what <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not
00:13:29 <HackEso> 163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there. <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? <nooga> what <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not
00:13:31 <HackEso> 163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there. <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? <nooga> what <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not
00:13:56 <b_jonas> so none of these prints one random matching quote when you search?
00:14:36 <int-e> no, they print all quotes for some reason, in file order
00:14:51 <int-e> ' is a symlink to quote
00:14:57 <int-e> I suspect q is as well?
00:15:08 <fizzie> No, but it calls quote.
00:15:22 <fizzie> What's the right word for that? Should we call it a bashlink?
00:17:05 <b_jonas> ``` ls -dlF /hackenv/bin/{q,quote,\'}
00:17:07 <HackEso> lrwxrwxrwx 1 1000 1000 5 Jul 8 2017 /hackenv/bin/' -> quote* \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 11 Apr 7 2018 /hackenv/bin/q* \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 194 Apr 7 2018 /hackenv/bin/quote*
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00:25:32 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(random.choice([l for l in open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb") if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)]))' llio
00:25:33 <HackEso> <ZOMGMODULES> I can trust elliott_ to have an opinion on anything and everything <elliott_> Yes. <elliott_> And the best thing is: it is the correct opinion.
00:25:45 <b_jonas> prints one random quote that matches the regex "llio"
00:27:05 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(b"".join(random.sample([l for l in open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb") if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)], 2)))' fun.ot
00:27:06 <HackEso> <fungot> boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program. \ <fungot> elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you!
00:27:28 <fizzie> I assume the fact that quote prints all the matching ones is intentional -- the reasoning being that you might be looking for a specific one that you faintly remember.
00:27:51 <b_jonas> I generally use grep for those things, but it makes sense that quote can do that too
00:27:57 <b_jonas> but sometimes I want to read a random fungot quote
00:27:57 <fungot> b_jonas: fnord has a factorial opcode, and you will be teh positively fnord.
00:28:10 <b_jonas> because there are so many bad ones that you want to do the list five quotes delete one routine on just them
00:28:29 <fungot> fizzie: he was gushing about the power of the first
00:28:30 <HackEso> 807) <olsner> fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? <fungot> olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa.
00:28:41 <HackEso> 431) <fungot> elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'.
00:29:47 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(b"".join(random.sample([b"%d) %s"%(1+n,l) for n,l in enumerate(open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb")) if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)], 2)))' fun.ot
00:29:48 <HackEso> 768) <fungot> olsner: over the undertow! under the overpass! around the future and not just fnord for example. it's just the syntax \ 668) <fungot> elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white.
00:29:55 <b_jonas> ^ in case you want line numbers
00:30:16 <int-e> `` allquotes | shuf -n 1
00:30:18 <HackEso> 1194) <olsner> fungot: what do you do to get rid of information you no longer need? <fungot> olsner: emacs lisp for a while
00:30:28 <int-e> (is basically what `quote does)
00:30:32 <HackEso> randquote(1hackeso) - no description
00:30:34 <int-e> (without arguments)
00:31:27 <b_jonas> `addwhatis randquote(1hackeso) - print a random quote matching a regular expression
00:31:29 <HackEso> addwhatis: replaced 'randquote(1hackeso)'
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00:43:06 <b_jonas> What's the simplest infinite loop in /// ? The wiki article doesn't seem to say.
00:43:26 <b_jonas> what is the simplest loop that reads infinitely many patterns then?
00:44:31 <shachaf> My learned clauses are so scow.
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11:12:44 <ggtylerr> so i got back my account w/o waiting for a full day \o/
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15:45:04 <b_jonas> fungot, in pokémon, which move is it that copies a move from the opponent? I don't mean Ditto, who copies the form of a pokémon, just copy the move.
15:45:04 <fungot> b_jonas: doing is infectious, i tell ya. do i get out of vi. i use latex.
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15:55:01 <fizzie> There's at least Mirror Move and Copycat.
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16:09:18 <kingoffrance> pokemon, pshaw, us sun kings do final fantasy reflects and such :/
16:17:23 <b_jonas> kingoffrance: not even the collectible card game where you have to be rich to get the best cards?
16:19:29 <int-e> . o O ( should use sleeves )
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16:23:43 <b_jonas> I like the april fool announcement https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/announcing-vault-vaults-2009-04-01 which mentions "the safe that contains Richard Garfield's personal Black Lotus collection, and the underground bunker that contains Richard Garfield's personal black Lotus collection", and "black Lotus" is linked to a webpage about a car of brand Lotus. The difference is that the
16:23:49 <b_jonas> former kind of Lotus is never shiny but the latter kind usually is.
16:26:12 <b_jonas> you want to run that on bfbot?
16:26:25 <b_jonas> ^ this should say something about the bot being on vacation
16:27:49 <b_jonas> I don't play chess, so I don't think I'll use such a bot much
16:29:16 <b_jonas> oh by the way, prerequisite before you write an esoteric chess engine: http://www.nanochess.org/chess.html Oscar Toledo's golfed chess programs;
16:29:39 <kingoffrance> they say the knights templars brought it back from crusades (chess == shah, persianish for "king") and the pope or somebody demanded a "bishop" character; its basically a "how to overthrow a gov." game
16:29:49 <b_jonas> you may also want to check the one chess-related IOCCC winner that isn't by Oscar Toledo, and Tom7's silly chess strategies
16:29:59 <kingoffrance> (i cant remember what the "bishop" was before the rebrand)
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19:19:33 <zzo38> The bishop was a elephant at first. What I read is that they called it a bishop because they did not know what is a elephant
19:21:10 <zzo38> (The queen also was not originally called that; also the bishop and queen's movement were different before they made the modern rules.)
19:22:20 <kmc> ah, is this because the game was imported from India?
19:22:47 <kmc> what were the old rules?
19:24:32 <zzo38> The elephant moves exactly two spaces diagonally and can jump; the advisor (now the queen) moves exactly one space diagonally and can't go orthogonally; promotion is always to queens; no pawns double step; no castling; once per game the king can go like a knight.
19:29:06 <b_jonas> zzo38: that sounds unlikely. everyone knew elephants form Pilnius, didn't they?
19:31:26 <zzo38> b_jonas: I don't know.
19:33:07 <zzo38> Maybe that is true; I don't know.
19:35:02 <kingoffrance> im saying surely they knew what an elephant was, they purposely wanted a religious figure to defend the kingdom or whatever
19:37:30 <zzo38> Maybe it is; I don't know about that history so well
19:39:36 <b_jonas> I think it's not an elephant because you can't turn an elephant figurine on a lathe.
19:39:55 <b_jonas> So an elephant would work as long as you only sell very expensive board, but not for a board game developed for mass market.
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20:37:03 <kspalaiologos> should it display board on multiple lines or a single line?
20:37:19 <zzo38> On just one line, I think, you can use FEN, I think
20:38:00 <kspalaiologos> imagine only thing you see is fen and you want to play
20:38:42 <zzo38> Although FEN is only needed for the initial position. After that just use the algebraic notation for each move.
20:38:50 <zzo38> You do not need to repeat the board after each move.
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20:41:44 <int-e> I suspect ♔♕♖♗♘♙♚♛♜♝♞♟ are your friends in this case
20:44:40 <zzo38> I think you can just write 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 and so on.
20:50:05 <int-e> It's not about having complete information, it's about not having to visualize a full board.
20:52:34 <b_jonas> [ 'rnbqkbnr',(8$'p'),(4 8$'.'),(8$'P'),:'RNBQKBNR'
20:55:29 <zzo38> You can place the pieces on your own board if you want to
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21:22:00 <b_jonas> [ 'rnbqkbnr',(8$'p'),(4 8$'.'),(8$'P'),:'RNBQKBNR'
21:22:38 <arseniiv> bishop is still, and I think forever, called elephant in Russian chess terminology, officially. There’s also an unofficial name translated as “officer”. I don’t understand why that one perseveres, as elephant is just four letters long and it’s not a taboo word or what
21:23:21 <int-e> arseniiv: What about knights?
21:24:47 <arseniiv> also queen is ferz, that one borrowed word having no non-chess meaning at all, and yes, knights are just (male) horses
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21:25:14 <arseniiv> I should check what’s a non-chess meaning of rook to elaborate further
21:25:57 <int-e> German also has its own term for bishop (Läufer=runner), knight (Springer=jumper, colloquially Pferd=horse), and rook (Turm=tower).
21:26:57 <fizzie> Finnish bishops are messengers/couriers ("lähetti").
21:27:32 <fizzie> And knights are a the generic word for any riding animal ("ratsu").
21:27:38 <int-e> That would agree with the runner idea.
21:28:38 <int-e> Anyway, "rook" is pretty mysterious to me.
21:29:00 <fizzie> Rooks are towers, but to be fair, they *are* towers.
21:29:24 <arseniiv> “rook” as a chesspiece seems not having a non-chess meaning, as a bird rook is not a partially synonymous castle. Russian rook name is an archaic word for boat, and an unofficial word (I think it should be much rare than an officer bishop vs. elephant bishop case) is a French borrowing or something, for a castle
21:30:26 <int-e> Oh it's a transcription of the arabic/persian terms
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21:31:13 <int-e> Well, loaned from there anyway... "Middle English rok, from Anglo-French roc, from Arabic rukhkh, from Persian rukh"
21:31:23 <arseniiv> now, at last pawn here is again a chess-exclusive word (plus its metaphorical usage, exactly as in English) derived analogously from a footsoldier
21:31:53 <int-e> (it's too old for scripture to play any significant role in the process)
21:33:53 <arseniiv> <int-e> Springer=jumper => oh! now I suddenly understand something about some publisher
21:34:20 <fizzie> Oh, that's why they've got that logo.
21:35:41 <int-e> Always nice to spread some knowledge :-?
21:37:22 <arseniiv> I wonder is there a page collecting these names and connotations between different languages
21:37:59 <fizzie> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Chess_pieces for the first part.
21:38:09 <fizzie> For just the list, I mean.
21:38:23 <fizzie> You'd have to click on the individual words for the meanings, unfortunately.
21:40:15 <arseniiv> fizzie: oh, that’s useful! though I don’t know for what
21:40:53 <int-e> arseniiv: if you can't find any other use, it's good for https://www.xkcd.com/609/
21:42:06 <arseniiv> yes, I forgot that queen is occasionally a queen to, but not officially, as that table mentions too, if one to suppose the first name is always an official one if it has sense for that language’s chess authority
21:43:54 <int-e> Oh it should be noted that "Springen" exists as a particular kind of horse riding. And in a military context, I suspect it's a kind of reserve that you can use to fill gaps in the front.
21:43:59 <arseniiv> wait, didn’t Munroe had another one about that effect and called it Wikipedia effect or something?
21:44:20 <zzo38> The queen was originally called ferz before they called it queen. The rook is called that because it was a corruption of a Indian word for a chariot (in Chinese game the piece with the same movement as a rook is called a chariot or car).
21:45:51 <int-e> arseniiv: you're right: https://www.xkcd.com/214/
21:47:16 <int-e> arseniiv: explainxkcd further points to the image title in https://www.xkcd.com/1501/
21:47:46 <zzo38> Wiktionary says "rook" is from a Arabic, from Persian (in both Arabic and Persian it means that chess piece), in turn from Sanskrit word meaning a chariot or car.
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22:07:14 <int-e> arseniiv: I suspect Munroe has a hard time *not* doing one of those comics every month.
22:07:57 <int-e> I mean he must be ending up in those spirals constantly, while looking for comic ideas and otherwise entertaining himself
22:08:37 <arseniiv> the former hadn’t occurred to me
22:09:01 <arseniiv> the latter is not that mysterious as he says too :D
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22:59:03 <kmc> fungot: have you ever been to the fungus fair
22:59:03 <fungot> kmc: in my experience, fnord type constructors would be defined by the angles the lines of what you call ' objects?'
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23:14:47 <b_jonas> fungot: no, that's not how type constructors work
23:14:48 <fungot> b_jonas: the fnord seems a less stable ( historical) state than -as-behaviour.)