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00:25:35 <imode> hm.. what if you modified `]` to mean the opposite of `[`. i.e "dequeue an item, if it's true, loop to the beginning of the loop, otherwise move on to the next instruction."
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03:00:17 <imode> https://repl.it/repls/RunnyDistinctDeclaration it's a start.
03:05:37 <imode> one thing I do like about this implementation is that it guards against spinning processes. if all of your processes are dead or blocking, it just stops.
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04:11:43 <HackEso> 1/1:hth//hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. \ nø//nø means 'Char', apparently. Maybe like when you burn a lot? \ lifthrasiir//lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. \ #esoteric-blah//#esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! \ vegemite//Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons.
04:54:22 <esowiki> [[User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 01]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67831 * Salpynx * (+5473) Puns intended. I started with a serious attempt, but then this happened...
05:42:17 <esowiki> [[Talk:Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67832&oldid=67763 * Salpynx * (+1429) /* Random Observations and Guesses */ colour theory
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05:53:47 <kingoffrance> in atlas and/or reverse atlas news; theres totally a card with dude holding up "the world" on google right now
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08:27:19 <zzo38> There is a Magic: the Gathering mystery card called "Corrupted Key". If it is tapped, your creatures have menace and deathtouch. Do you have the card database with the mystery cards in this IRC?
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08:31:00 <shachaf> `card-by-name corrupted key
08:31:05 <HackEso> Corrupted Conscience \ 3UU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ You control enchanted creature. \ Enchanted creature has infect. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.) \ MBS-U \ \ Corrupted Crossroads \ Land \ {T}: Add {C}. ({C} represents colorless mana.) \ {T}, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a spell with devoid. \ OGW-R \ \ Corru
08:31:30 <shachaf> I don't remember what Menace is. Was there a rules lookup command?
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08:31:44 <b_jonas> shachaf: we don't have one
08:31:45 <kingoffrance> well, i have reverse corrupted keys zzo38 , but that explanation makes total sense zzo38
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08:32:42 <b_jonas> ``` grep -i menace /hackenv/share/mtg/rules.txt | tail -n+2
08:32:43 <HackEso> 702.110. Menace \ 702.110a Menace is an evasion ability. \ 702.110b A creature with menace can’t be blocked except by two or more creatures. (See rule 509, “Declare Blockers Step.”) \ 702.110c Multiple instances of menace on the same creature are redundant. \ Menace \ An evasion ability that makes creatures unblockable by a single creature. See rule 702.110, “Menace.”
08:33:57 <kingoffrance> douthtouch is lifetouch just depends on which "bible" people go by
08:35:17 <zzo38> Deathtouch means damage this object deals to a creature will cause state based actions to destroy that creature even if the damage doesn't equal or exceed its toughness. There is no "lifetouch" in Magic: the Gathering, and I don't know what "douthtouch" means (is it like "deathtouch"?)
08:36:33 <zzo38> I fail to see what the Bible has to do with it.
08:40:13 <zzo38> I do not understand.
08:41:32 <b_jonas> kingoffrance: card with dude holding up "the world" => do you mean https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bembo-Visconti-tarot-arcanum-21-world.jpg or other https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/?curid=11291208 ?
08:44:13 <kingoffrance> theres a first coming set of catholic keys, and theres 2nd coming protestant keys basically
08:44:42 <zzo38> I thought a card holding up the world might refer to one of the trumps in the tarot cards, but "on google right now", it is unclear
08:44:56 <zzo38> (Although I don't use Google much, so I don't know.)
08:45:26 <zzo38> kingoffrance: OK, although I was discussing Magic: the Gathering cards, rather than Catholic and Protestant religions
08:46:05 <b_jonas> zzo38: "on google right now" means that he's looking at the image of such a card through the internet, potentially the very image that I linked
08:48:14 <zzo38> b_jonas: OK, but then he didn't say very clearly, at least to me
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08:54:04 <kingoffrance> how they shapeshift the google logo on www.google.com might be gone now depending on your timezone
08:54:38 <zzo38> O, OK, now I looked. Yes it is still there.
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09:00:21 <b_jonas> so apparently the hoster of the Everyday Heroes and The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob webcomics has changed to one of those horrible hosts where you need to overload your computer with javascript ads before it is willing to show the webcomic, and even then you need one click to hide an ad and another to view the comic in full resolution. gocomics.com has already been such a webcomic host for a while,
09:00:27 <b_jonas> but now there's another one.
09:00:52 <b_jonas> either that, or their website is just plain broken. I haven't tried to get through their javascript yet, so I don't know if the comic behind it is actually accessible.
09:01:07 <b_jonas> I'll try some day when I feel more adventurous.
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09:46:40 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Salpynx * uploaded "[[File:Phoney-burn-r110-spaceship.png]]"
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10:08:53 <esowiki> [[Talk:Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67839&oldid=67833 * Salpynx * (+476) /* Reverse engineering attempts */ phoney solution to the reverse engineering challenge
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18:47:56 <int-e> fungot: Can you do multivariate optimization?
18:47:56 <fungot> int-e: it's finland! :) i'm stealing their hidden stash of alcohol. for some reason. it could spend n ticks to mark a certain spot, just to show that
18:49:43 <b_jonas> int-e: not anymore. training the markov models isn't built into fungot, he gets the models already precompiled, and nobody knows how fizzie created those models lots of years ago
18:49:43 <fungot> b_jonas: i was about to mention that
18:49:43 <esowiki> [[Intcode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67850&oldid=67849 * Yay * (-36) /* Parameter Modes */ fix everything I broke
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18:51:34 <int-e> b_jonas: I'm tackling Ponder This, and I'm doing stupid random hillclimbing instead of finding a proper tool for the job.
18:52:07 <int-e> I'm successful, mind you. But it feels wrong.
18:52:11 <esowiki> [[Intcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67851&oldid=67850 * Yay * (+1) /* Opcodes */
18:53:17 <b_jonas> int-e: what's Ponder This? it's not Advent of Code, right?
18:53:32 <int-e> http://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/challenges/December2019.html
18:54:18 <int-e> A monthly puzzle by some IBM Research fault, has been going for over 20 years.
18:55:40 <b_jonas> interesting. I didn't know about that puzzle set
18:57:57 <b_jonas> anyway, as for your original question, GSL https://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ has multivariate numerical optimization with machine doubles, and has a C interface, including that you give it a C callback that computes the function you want to optimize and possibly its derivatives
18:58:18 <b_jonas> it calls it "Multidimensional Minimization"
18:58:50 <b_jonas> and there was a link, let me try to find it, about more software for multidimensional minimization,
18:59:07 <b_jonas> plus you can find such libraries distributed with various computer algebra software
19:00:06 <b_jonas> the webpage that gives those links might be somewhere in the channel logs too
19:13:31 <b_jonas> found it. int-e: http://plato.asu.edu/sub/pns.html list of numeric optimization software
19:18:25 <fizzie> In fact, I do know how I created them. In fact, most of them were created almost exactly following the steps at https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/varikn/readme.txt
19:18:25 <fungot> fizzie: so it *is* long, and how a distributed system needs to be a really slow aircraft, though,
19:18:33 <fizzie> I do not have a copy of the exact parameter values I used, so I can't quite recreate the same results from scratch, but it should be close enough.
19:18:46 <fizzie> Some of the older (better?) models were trained with a super-crummy C++ program, which I still have -- though I'm not sure if buildlm.cc, buildlm-old.cc or buildlm-old2.cc is the relevant version for each of them. I have no excuse for why it's not in version control, either.
19:20:44 <esowiki> [[Fungot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67852&oldid=67237 * B jonas * (+153) link to dDescription of the software that was used to generate most of the markov models of fungot
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19:47:27 <int-e> Oh well I tweaked my code to the point where it finally seems to be approaching a local minimum.
19:49:05 <b_jonas> int-e: good. nevertheless I recommend that list page, in case you meet a more complicated numeric optimization problem in the future
20:02:02 <int-e> b_jonas: yeah it does look useful, thanks.
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