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00:25:12 <t20kdc> int-e: It kinda seems like this is ISPs fault for breaking things in the first place
00:26:31 <t20kdc> int-e: they decided they were going to make requests return false information, and if the comments on that article are to be believed, made the situation worse by working around previous detection methods
00:27:28 <t20kdc> int-e: (said comment therefore implies that there were previous detection methods, therefore Chromium didn't just start doing this for no apparent reason)
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04:58:14 <int-e> fungot: Does "Among Us" cause imposter syndrome?
04:58:14 <fungot> int-e: why should he have to? :) imagine if the imagination of the images moved to elmorex. i
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16:29:33 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76795&oldid=76794 * SunnyMoon * (+0) Why am I so bad at this?
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21:37:18 <zzo38> What can be good way of picture compression with indexed colours? I know of a few different things which have been done, including XOR, LZW, and RLE.
21:38:33 <b_jonas> zzo38: I usually just use PNG for that
21:38:40 <b_jonas> and you know how that works
21:39:54 <zzo38> Yes, it is DEFLATE. There might be better ways though; I don't know.
21:42:34 <zzo38> Some formats support storing both a monochrome and colour version together, such as XPM format and Infocom's format (although XPM isn't compressed). Stippling is also supported in both formats, although I do not know of any implementation that does it other than my own (the reference implementation of XPM can probably decode stippling, but as far as I know it cannot encode stippling).
21:43:31 <zzo38> Infocom's YZIP picture library format uses huffed RLE with XOR, either the line above or the line above that.
21:44:32 <zzo38> (Although the PC variant seems to be based on LZW instead. I don't know what bits in the header specify the variant and exactly how it is done, although there seems to be some.)
21:50:35 <zzo38> Also, I don't know if any format other than XPM supports symbolic colours in the way that XPM has, although I invented an extension to PNG to support it (the "xpMC" chunk).
21:52:44 <arseniiv> there exists good. Rifling through some old things I found a MIDI 1in/1out-to-USB cable which I presumed earlier didn’t work ever once and tried to test it once more (it should have been working at least on winXP without explicit installation but nope). I went to the manufacturer’s website and found not only this cable, discontinued long ago but having a neat archive page nonetheless, together with some its discontinued predecessors
21:52:44 <arseniiv> and siccessors, but also there was a page with drivers and there was a driver for win7 (which I currently use) and it suddenly worked! like a charm!
21:55:29 <arseniiv> I mean, it didn’t have a CD with a driver, that was a feature it should just auto-install from whatever memory it does have on itself, and work. But that didn’t happen in my case, or maybe I was too dumb in 2007
21:55:47 <arseniiv> yes I forgot to mention that it was bought and manufactured in 2007
21:58:28 <arseniiv> hopefully those folks are well-paid. For some reasons many companies don’t maintain their old product archive as well
21:59:05 <b_jonas> arseniiv: yeah. especially publishers once their books sold out. I hate it.
21:59:29 <b_jonas> there are three books for which I have a long errata list that I couldn't get the publishers host.
21:59:58 <arseniiv> b_jonas: hopefully that will see some improvement in the future
22:01:41 <arseniiv> that’s cool you compiled the errors in a list instead of just pencil-editing them at the corresponding pages or just plain forgetting about them. I don’t have such a good habit for example :(
22:02:39 <b_jonas> arseniiv: it's not such a good habit because I only published them for one and a half book, and didn't push hard enough on the publishers
22:03:15 <arseniiv> though I don’t have books in paper form which I’d consider gems, so maybe I would collect errata if I’d have one such
22:04:13 <arseniiv> b_jonas: at least you can publish them somewhere. This makes a small difference but
22:04:23 <b_jonas> I only have two of those. the third one is K&R, which I don't have because I don't think I need it anymore, I only borrowed them from the library
22:04:44 <arseniiv> isn’t there a book errata project somewhere?
22:05:18 <b_jonas> maybe there's one on wikibooks or something
22:06:27 <arseniiv> if there was no more than a few of them that would be good as people would search these places easily, and updating them with their own finds would be also not hard
22:07:00 <b_jonas> someone should start such a project if it doesn't exist yet, good idea
22:07:30 <arseniiv> anyway collecting small book fixes is good. I don’t think books are on the level of current-day software issue trackers yet
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23:41:10 <zzo38> For automatically making up a palette for a picture, in addition to specifying how many colours, and specifying some colours are fixed, also the possibility of hold and modify, extra half brite, interleaved colour mode, attribute zones, etc.