00:38:06 <esowiki> [[KRONKSCRIPT]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=77207 * McGoodmen * (+2525) Created page with "An Esolang by Zack Umar. Version 1.0.0 ==What is KRONKSCRIPT?== '''KRONKSCRIPT''' is an esoteric programming language based on Kronker Pepikrankenitz. If you do not know of..."
00:38:28 <esowiki> [[KRONKSCRIPT]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77208&oldid=77207 * McGoodmen * (-1)
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04:36:12 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77210&oldid=77185 * TwilightSparkle * (+157) /* Control Flow */
04:37:15 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77211&oldid=77210 * TwilightSparkle * (+197) /* If block */
04:38:11 <esowiki> [[,,,]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77212&oldid=77195 * TwilightSparkle * (+95)
04:42:40 <esowiki> [[1CP=1ICL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77213&oldid=77206 * TwilightSparkle * (+133) /* Language specifications */
04:46:33 <esowiki> [[1CP=1ICL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77214&oldid=77213 * TwilightSparkle * (+193) /* Language specifications */
04:47:38 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77215&oldid=77211 * TwilightSparkle * (+153) /* If-else block */
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04:59:24 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77216&oldid=77215 * TwilightSparkle * (+40) /* If-else block */
05:09:53 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77217&oldid=77216 * TwilightSparkle * (+209) /* Control Flow */
05:14:44 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77218&oldid=77217 * TwilightSparkle * (+250)
05:26:49 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77219&oldid=77218 * TwilightSparkle * (+7) /* While loop */
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07:38:09 <esowiki> [[Conglument]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77220&oldid=77166 * Hakerh400 * (+0) /* Overview */
07:39:15 <esowiki> [[Conglument]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77221&oldid=77220 * Hakerh400 * (+1) /* Overview */
07:43:29 <esowiki> [[Conglument]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77222&oldid=77221 * Hakerh400 * (+1) /* Projection */
07:45:36 <esowiki> [[Conglument]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77223&oldid=77222 * Hakerh400 * (+0) /* Composition */
07:46:05 <esowiki> [[Conglument]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77224&oldid=77223 * Hakerh400 * (-1) /* Composition */
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08:15:41 <esowiki> [[ByteByteFork]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77225&oldid=77205 * Zero * (+140)
08:17:22 <rain1> Is there a OIES thing for taylor series of functions?
08:23:34 <esowiki> [[ByteByteFork]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77226&oldid=77225 * Zero * (+212)
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09:34:24 <esowiki> [[Ix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77230&oldid=76966 * Orisphera * (+167) /* Quine */
09:36:22 <esowiki> [[Ix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77231&oldid=77230 * Orisphera * (+126) /* The language */
10:12:57 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77232&oldid=77219 * TwilightSparkle * (+138) /* Easy */
10:13:18 <esowiki> [[1+/Snippets]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77233&oldid=77232 * TwilightSparkle * (+50) /* Comparison */
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12:29:02 <esowiki> [[Talk:!lyriclydemoteestablishcommunism!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77234&oldid=76830 * Baidicoot * (+141)
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15:33:59 <esowiki> [[ByteByteFork]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77235&oldid=77229 * Zero * (+3200)
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16:46:25 <rain1> https://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlasticConstant.html
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17:02:19 <esowiki> [[ByteByteFork]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77237&oldid=77236 * Zero * (+185)
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17:38:41 <esowiki> [[Talk:,,,]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77242&oldid=77209 * SunnyMoon * (+190) Okay...
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19:30:13 <esowiki> [[1CP=1ICL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77244&oldid=77214 * Camto * (+328) Add q and w instructions.
19:54:03 <esowiki> [[,,,]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77245&oldid=77212 * SunnyMoon * (-76) my hate I grammar
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20:01:28 <ais523> one weird SI prefix exception is to do with farads; for whatever reason, electronic engineers never use millifarads (and this is something that's taught in textbooks)
20:01:56 <ais523> farads, microfarads, picofarads are all commonly used; according to Wikipedia, nanofarads aren't used in North America but are elsewhere
20:02:31 <ais523> in fact, I've been taught that if I see "mF", it is probably a misprinting/misencoding of "µF", rather than an actual indication of millifarads
20:04:00 <ais523> as for a symbol for minute, it does have a symbol, ′
20:04:10 <ais523> but it isn't commonly used because it looks so much like an apostrophe
20:04:20 <ais523> and SI recommends that it's abbreviated to "min"
20:04:59 <ais523> in practice, it only tends to be alonside ″ for seconds
20:05:46 <fizzie> Unless whoever did it couldn't figure out how to type those and went with ' and " instead.
20:07:22 <ais523> I can type ’ and ” easily enough, but they aren't the right codepoints
20:08:41 <zzo38> In many cases ' and " are suitable, although not always. However, I see them more often in angular measurement I think, such as those in ephemerides.
20:12:57 <ais523> there is an unambiguous symbol for arc-second, it's a seconds symbol with a circumflex on it, ′̂
20:13:02 <ais523> it doesn't render very well in this client
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20:35:06 <ais523> ooh, here's another example of silly SI-ish units; a "1.44 megabyte" floppy disk has a capacity of 1.44×1000×1024
20:35:23 <ais523> "1440 KiB" would be more accurate
20:37:24 <ais523> well, it doesn't make sense, but it's at least mildly plausible how it could have happened
20:37:52 <b_jonas> so it's 1.47 MB or 1.40 MiB
20:38:02 <ais523> fizzie: I considered saying that :-)
20:38:36 <ais523> hmm, I still have some floppy disks, and even floppy disk drives
20:38:41 <ais523> although I haven't used either in years
20:39:09 <ais523> the data that was on them is backed up in numerous places, because they're so small relative to modern storage devices that you can just include a backup of all the floppy disks as a random part of other backups you make
20:39:18 <b_jonas> I don't have physical floppy disks or drives anyomre.
20:39:23 <ais523> so I haven't needed to use the disks themselves
20:39:31 <fizzie> When we went to prepare our flat back in Finland to be rented out, I hooked up a floppy drive to the skeleton of a computer that was still there, and imaged all the floppies.
20:39:41 <fizzie> I think maybe ~70% of them were still readable.
20:41:14 <fizzie> Also did the same for all the CD-Rs, which had a little better success rate, but not 100% either.
20:41:39 <spruit11> 20% off of all goods with jemalloc.
20:43:07 <zzo38> The man page for charmap(5) says that multi-bytes characters is not supported, but in the files on my computer, they seem to be used. The charmap files also have a section for widths, which are not mentioned in the man page, and all of the symbolic names seems to be Unicode numbers, but is this required? (You might want to define character sets which are not compatible with Unicode.)
20:54:00 <ais523> fizzie: now I'm wondering why you imaged them rather than just copying the files; were some of them using interesting copy protection mechanisms?
20:54:12 <ais523> or was it simply easier?
20:55:27 <fizzie> It was just easier. I don't expect any of them had any particularly exotic formats, but there was no storage on that computer and I had limited time, it was easier just to image them and upload back to home, and put them into the "sort through these later" pile.
20:55:43 <b_jonas> I think it's easier, and you can still get the files later.
20:58:47 <zzo38> Well, many programs can read disk images, such as you may be able to mount them on Linux, and 7-Zip can also read many kinds of disk image files
20:59:17 <zzo38> (Also copying the files may cause some of their attributes to be lost, depending on the file system)
20:59:57 <b_jonas> zzo38: yes, and since some of those disks have DOS programs, you can just use the images directly as emulated floppy disks in a virtual machine emulating DOS
21:00:52 <zzo38> Yes, I believe DOSBOX will also read the disk image files directly (although it doesn't support switching floppy disk images; switching is supported only for CDs)
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