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11:43:54 <wib_jonas> today I learned that the pulse encoding for telephone numbers on rotary telephones had three (or maybe four or two) incompatible versions, so if you tried to use a phone in the wrong country or region, the digits printed on it would be wrong, and you'd have to permute your phone number before dialing\
11:45:05 <wib_jonas> maybe this is what motivated introducing the DTMF encoding, so that they have one standard instead of three?
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11:45:40 <wib_jonas> and yes, I know that never works as in https://xkcd.com/927/
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13:08:25 <wib_jonas> Is there an attempt to make a dialect of C++ where you can optionally qualify pointers and variables to have rust ownership/reference semantics, in a way that's backwards compatible to traditional C++ compilers in that there's a header that lets you compile your code on those by macroing away those qualifiers, whereas a compiler that supports these
13:08:25 <wib_jonas> features can do the full type and lifetime checking?
13:08:51 <esolangs> [[Gdelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86363&oldid=86359 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-10) Unpipe
13:10:05 <wib_jonas> to be clear, this would be backwards compatible with existing C++ code, because pointers or variables that aren't qualified with the new keyword(s) would have C++'s looser semantics, not rust ownership
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13:14:22 <wib_jonas> I think you'd need like two keywords, let's say `own` so `T *own foo` declares a rust-like mut reference to a T, `T *const own foo` declares a rust-like const reference to T, `struct U { own T foo; };` declares foo as a member that the structure owns, etc, a variant of own that lets you specify a lifetime in parenthesis, and a bunch of presumably
13:14:22 <wib_jonas> template types for essential abstractions of rust
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13:16:10 <wib_jonas> There could also be additional features that aren't compatible with existing C++ compilers of course, like rust enums
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13:30:16 <nakilon> prawnsalad confirmed what I was saying https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 -- that all this crap was nothing else than echochamber made by tomaw to make pawns flame the channels, copypaste fakes and spread the hate with no reason
13:31:49 <nakilon> now I still wait for apologizing for multiple collective false accussations and defamation on me for just telling to stop
13:34:55 <Corbin> You and I have taken very different lessons from all of this. For example, I've paid attention to who seems to have gained @ hats on Freenode; more than a few acquaintances have gone mask-off and embraced a sudden rush of power, it seems.
13:42:51 <riv> wow there's people on freenode?
13:47:53 <wib_jonas> riv: obviously, since there are people who don't use IRC as frequently as I do, and when they log on after several month they don't know in advance about the drama and are surprised to find their irc client conencting to the broken pieces of freenode
13:48:08 <wib_jonas> presumably after that they'll quickly figure out which networks people have moved to
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14:06:04 <wib_jonas> I'll have my old years old birthday soon. I'll feel old after that.
14:07:10 <riv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qD9XElTpCE
14:07:16 <riv> The Story of Shor's Algorithm, Straight From the Source | Peter Shor
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14:54:31 <arseniiv> <wib_jonas> I'll have my old years old birthday soon. I'll feel old after that. => hugs. I’ll have kinda old age in a couple of months too, though I think your age should be older so I shouldn’t be as sad
14:55:08 <wib_jonas> well I thought exactly the same around my last few birthdays, and will probably think the same for every birthday the next few decades
14:56:54 <esolangs> [[Gdelang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86366&oldid=86365 * TJC games * (+10)
15:01:35 <nakilon> "One of my guiding principles, also, has been the scientist's motto 'Take nobody's word for it' (nullius in verba), a corollary of which is that if scientists as a whole denounce an idea this should not necessarily be taken as proof that the said idea is absurd: rather, one should examine carefully the alleged grounds for such opinions and judge
15:01:35 <nakilon> how well these stand up to detailed scrutiny." http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/ -- this was in ru wikipedia page with "missing reference" tag, added it, it's right on his Cambridge homepage
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15:22:04 <nakilon> in that Peter Shor's video the blue book behind looks like Spelunky Jetpack
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15:29:11 <nakilon> lol this is ironic https://i.imgur.com/Crfembw.png
15:29:44 <nakilon> he tells about error correction and there is sqrt(1) on the slide
15:30:13 <riv> correct THAT
15:32:45 <Riviera> why would that be a problem?
15:33:34 <Riviera> riv: good, albeit short, nickname! ;D
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16:27:56 <arseniiv> sqrt(1) is multivalued. Is it 1? Is it −1? Is it a hyperbolic unit j? Or −j? And when we have two such units j, k which anticommute, we have an explosion of the form (j cos t + k sin t), as squared that gives 1 + (j k + k j) cos t sin t = 1. I think we can deal with commuting j, k too but I forgot how
16:36:37 <arseniiv> sqrt(0) is of course even worse as you can multiply any nilpotent and it still remains nilpotent
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17:05:09 <b_jonas> arseniiv: that's irrelevant, in this case it's clearly a typo for sqrt(8)
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17:48:36 <nakilon> arseniiv don't you usually write +/-sqrt(1) then?
17:48:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86371&oldid=86362 * Newtykins * (+336) /* Introductions */
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18:26:45 <arseniiv> nakilon: impossible for things other than complex numbers, unfortunately, as there are usually too many
18:27:06 <arseniiv> for example there is a whole sphere of quaternions which square to −1
18:28:32 <arseniiv> having fun with https://codeparade.itch.io/webcam-fractals
18:29:10 <arseniiv> what a simple concept and this is pure IFS world, nothing fancy
18:30:25 <arseniiv> but with analog-ish dynamics as a natural consequence of its design. And the experience when you hold a webcam in your hands!
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19:01:38 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86375&oldid=86369 * BurningApparatus * (+11) /* I */
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21:42:01 <riv> http://www.leapsecond.com/
21:42:05 <riv> check out this site about leap seconds
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