00:00:11 <nakilon> oh they have it in google street view https://goo.gl/maps/wd5fpPybgA4GNy9KA
00:02:43 <nakilon> chair is gone; but looks like you can have a virtual walk in the working space; they blurred a lot
00:03:05 <fizzie> Was going to say, not seeing a g-shaped chair.
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00:09:01 <fizzie> I've not been to that many offices, but of the ones I've been to, I think the Zürich one's been the most whimsical. They've got a lot of these old ski lift cabins redecorated and repurposed for ad-hoc meetings. No Street View, though.
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00:36:35 <b_jonas> fizzie: so you still work at Google? also the chairs are g-shaped when viewed from which direction? are they rocking chairs?
00:36:54 <fizzie> I haven't seen these chairs.
00:37:28 <fizzie> We've got some vaguely S-shaped chairs in some of the non-working spaces, I think they're a moderately well-known designer chair.
00:38:00 <oerjan> all you need to change S to g is to push hard in the right place hth
00:38:08 <fizzie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panton_Chair <- those things
00:38:28 <fizzie> "The world's first moulded plastic chair, it is considered to be one of the masterpieces of Danish design."
00:40:44 <b_jonas> oh, that's S-shaped without the top of the S. that's easy.
00:42:05 <int-e> oerjan: I still don't remember who that is though :P
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00:43:57 <nakilon> https://i.imgur.com/ZhywAwZ.png
00:44:17 * nakilon sighs about his idea of making IDE in CSS
00:44:47 <teaml> thats an idea that pains me very much
00:45:35 <teaml> can you even do that?
00:45:41 <teaml> is css that advanced?
00:46:24 <teaml> not the object Object
00:47:41 <nakilon> found the chair https://www.setaprint.net/2015/07/letter-g-chair/
00:47:47 <nakilon> but it was painted in brand colors
00:57:33 <oerjan> int-e: that's lord moonbark, who i specifically excluded it being
00:58:32 <oerjan> int-e: he's the one who showed gil and trelawney thorpe the mirror in londinium
01:02:52 <oerjan> i was also confused by him fashionably wearing different clothes every time he appears
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01:04:55 <oerjan> i suppose a lot of the cast do that, but somehow that made it easier to believe it wasn't him on the first checking
01:06:59 <oerjan> . o O ( well we _are_ talking about a comic that has regularly made paper doll outfits as fan service )
01:07:43 <oerjan> might be about time for a new intermission with H. Fashion Clank
01:13:00 <int-e> or another month of the circus people doing a radio show?
01:13:23 <int-e> this comic has had soooo many intermissions
01:13:39 <int-e> tbf it is a rather long-running one too
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01:27:18 <b_jonas> int-e: and it's one of multiple comics that #esoteric is so much into that I keep consider if I should binge read it at some point. especially as I believe #esoteric,'s recommendation was most of what pushed me to read OotS, and I enjoy OotS a lot
01:27:55 <oerjan> int-e: i don't remember it being the circus people, thought it was the foglio author avatars
01:28:20 <oerjan> although back when it ran, that may have been less obvious
01:28:58 <HackEso> Recommended comics include Yet Another Genius Gamer, Stuck Girl, Home of the Order, and Fantasy Stick Comic. The content of this list is not to be questioned.
01:29:01 <int-e> oerjan: you're more likely to be right than I am
01:29:16 <oerjan> although maybe i should check
01:29:30 <b_jonas> huh, I don't recall that thing
01:30:26 <HackEso> o is a popular comedy fantasy webcomic. It's about a group called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence, and eventually stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, and they're out to stop him and conquer their personal problems at the same time. Hopefully not in that order.
01:30:32 <HackEso> olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
01:33:01 <HackEso> Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck.
01:33:03 <HackEso> Non-update notification for the webcomic Super Mega.
01:33:57 <oerjan> b_jonas: girl genius updates too regularly to have a list
01:34:28 <oerjan> yafgc could be debated, but it updates frequently when it does
01:34:42 <b_jonas> and IWC updates regularly except it updates an hour earlier than it should
01:35:13 <oerjan> i haven't got back to iwc since my hiatus
01:35:43 <int-e> (sw is something some people here might recognize... if someone guesses ksbd that would surprise me a little bit, I guess)
01:37:12 <int-e> Actually I'm reading two comics that fit "sw", fun.
01:37:32 <b_jonas> I used to ring the pbflist, but then I started disliking that comic strip so I stopped with the update notifications, but also didn't dare to remove the command or the wisdom
01:37:36 <int-e> Maybe I should abbreviate one of them as s&w instead
01:37:59 <b_jonas> I also used to ring bobadventureslist and ehlist
01:38:50 <int-e> (The comics I had in mind are: Sandra & Woo; Slack Wyrm; Kill Six Billion Demons)
01:39:24 <oerjan> i think i've heard the name Sandra & Woo and that's as close as i get
01:39:44 <b_jonas> Sandra & Woo is another one that used to be good in the first few years
01:40:01 <b_jonas> but didn't keep its quality
01:40:12 <b_jonas> though on the plus side, it does have a mostly consistent update schedule
01:42:42 <b_jonas> I'm particularly impressed with the drawing style of early Sandra & Woo by the way
01:42:47 <oerjan> i think schlock mercenary was the last comic i really got into but that has finished
01:42:53 <b_jonas> which is, you know, unusual among webcomics I read
01:43:11 <b_jonas> Schlock Mercenary finished?
01:43:19 <b_jonas> wasn't that one of the ever-going never finishing comic?
01:44:45 <b_jonas> is that the longest running webcomic with a definite end?
01:45:24 <fizzie> I think it also never had any missed days?
01:46:11 <fizzie> https://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/nineteen-years/ "The comic has updated daily, every day, without fail, for nineteen years now."
01:46:22 <fizzie> And I don't think that failed during the last year either.
01:47:25 <int-e> It wrapped up pretty well too.
01:47:58 <b_jonas> most webcomics never come to a definite end, they're just abandonned. I know of some shorter webcomics that wrapped up properly, but not one that long.
01:48:11 <fizzie> https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WebcomicsLongRunners has it under the "Discontinued" section as the only thing that reached 20 years.
01:48:27 <fizzie> If Kevin & Kell ever actually ends, it'll beat it though.
01:48:57 <b_jonas> I mean Irregular Webcomic is already pretty impressive, having concluded three times in eight years
01:49:42 <b_jonas> and I think DMM is the record-keeper, having had three concluded webcomics, with five or six conclusions total
01:50:35 <oerjan> i wouldn't bet on that.
01:56:54 <b_jonas> Joe the Circle is a bit odd, in that it has seasons, sort of like TV series, and has 13 seasons concluded, but it also started as a paper comic, like Bobadventures, so some of those aren't webcomics
01:57:32 <b_jonas> but I haven't read enough of that comic to know if it had what counts as concluding the comic, as opposed to just concluding seasons or story arcs
02:02:52 <nakilon> https://jsfiddle.net/9vetsczw/ why do these columns of + and x are of the different height _<>
02:04:32 <fizzie> The xs have "padding-top: 0.5rem;" and the +s don't?
02:05:10 <fizzie> Or is that just for the whole chunk of them, I guess so.
02:06:43 <nakilon> yes, the padding is intended but the relative shift should not change
02:07:34 <fizzie> Curious. Maybe you need to do something to force a line spacing.
02:08:04 <fizzie> They are rendered with different fonts for me, in case that makes a difference.
02:09:22 <fizzie> (The +s come from Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, the xs for some unfathomable reason from DejaVu Sans.)
02:10:08 <fizzie> (They both have "font-family: monospaced" as the computed style though.)
02:10:17 <nakilon> font is only specified in body as font-family: monospace
02:11:29 <nakilon> these fancy flex, grid things were said to make the life easier than table...
02:14:10 <fizzie> Well, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with that, because replacing the x with x makes it render all from the same fonts but doesn't fix the spacing.
02:14:59 <fizzie> Looking at the boxes though, it would seem that both columns have the exact same total height, just the padding causes everything else to get squeezed a little.
02:17:02 <fizzie> As in, for this browser both the #row_adders and #row_removers divs are 16x150 pixels, but the other one has 8 pixels of padding up top, leaving only 142 for the actual characters.
02:17:19 <fizzie> Maybe you can fix it by ensuring that there's a similar padding at the bottom of the other column.
02:17:26 <fizzie> (And the whole grid, to keep it in line.)
02:19:17 <fizzie> Well, doing that got it... a little bit better, but still not exactly right. Not going to fiddle any more with it.
02:20:44 <fizzie> (I don't know how people manage to make actually good-looking yet robust web things of that kind. Because there's definitely things that do work.)
02:23:24 <nakilon> added more paddings around, became almost ok https://jsfiddle.net/9vetsczw/1/but the "width: 1rem" does not seem to work at all
02:24:00 <nakilon> (space between "1/" and "but")
02:24:50 <nakilon> "I don't know how people manage to make" -- I feel like they just force sizes in "px"
02:25:34 <nakilon> not sure about text base aligning though, I tried to tweak that too
02:27:09 <nakilon> also there is some https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/line-height that also changes the size in some misterious way
02:30:48 <nakilon> oh, acrually the width:rem works it's just 1 height != 1 width, lol
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07:16:01 <zzo38> Now I made up a format for compact binary structured data, which is: http://sprunge.us/G7xVU8 Do you think this is good?
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08:27:01 <river> I see that it has long numbers
08:27:10 <river> my book was teaching about long numbers
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12:52:55 <nakilon> amazing how coding in your "native" language you can write dozens of lines with algorithms of any complexity without an error but if you take something you aren't used to you are doomed
12:53:51 <nakilon> working on this jquery thing I have to test after every new line of code added ..D
12:54:05 <nakilon> because it always has an error
12:59:31 <nakilon> for example, there is a grid with "selected" cell, and at any time some cell should be selected so I decided when I remove the col or row containing the selected cell I select the left-top one; the first struggle was that there is no "remove event propagation" in jquery when you remove the containing row so the cell does not know you remove it, so
12:59:31 <nakilon> you have to loop along the row to check each cell if it's selected; and even when I do "if this==selected select(0,0)" on each cell before removal I've got a bug that if the selected cell was in the first row or col the top-left cell selected during the loop is gone in the end; I can't believe I've got caught in it
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14:24:42 <nakilon> so no colorful annotations list yet https://i.imgur.com/CmNuI0a.png but it reads and writes the file
14:26:04 <nakilon> now switching away from JS to make the rasel<->rasela converter; then the runner; then the run reporter
15:30:31 <b_jonas> fungot, if I were to want to disassemble you, what type and size of screwdriver should I bring?
15:30:31 <fungot> b_jonas: i know. he demands the framework used in r5rs?
15:36:00 <b_jonas> fungot, what kind of material is wolframane, and is it metalic or non-metalic?
15:54:26 <fizzie> fungot: Are you just researching the topic now?
15:54:26 <fungot> fizzie: what would it be unfair to give a 15 minute scribble, but i understood). to a top level
15:55:41 <nakilon> that's actually a cool answer
15:55:56 <nakilon> if bot sees he needs a time he says "one sec" and comes with an answer later
16:25:46 <b_jonas> we give some time on exams for students to prepare their answer
16:25:55 <b_jonas> must give them a fair chance to cheat
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16:51:47 <nakilon> I cheated on exams once; still feeling bad about that _<>
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