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00:13:25 <fizzie> That looks just fine in this terminal, but my browser's real bad at making monospace text actually monospaced. https://zem.fi/tmp/ugh.png
00:14:25 <fizzie> (It says YES if you do filter out the colors, NO if you don't.)
00:15:21 <nakilon> https://i.imgur.com/xGRi0OP.png
00:16:32 <fizzie> You get the YES out of the browsable logs by highlighting the text: https://zem.fi/tmp/ugh2.png
00:16:46 <fizzie> (With a slight shadow of the NO still visible.)
00:17:44 <fizzie> Of course all that doesn't really explain *why* come here to do that... experiment. But I guess why not.
00:18:59 <nakilon> fungot do you filter colors?
00:18:59 <fungot> nakilon: pyrotechno ok. now i'm hungry. :( only one? good for him. ( and there are pi seconds in a fnord
00:19:20 <fizzie> ^rainbow NOT TOO LIKELY
00:20:32 <nakilon> ^rainbow XXXXXXXXX X X X X X X X X X
00:20:32 <fungot> XXXXXXXXX X X X X X X X X X
00:23:25 <fizzie> There was also another one, but it seems to have become broken for me, I think probably because it now truncates in the middle of a UTF-8 sequence.
00:23:27 <fungot> ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ ...too much output!
00:23:28 <int-e> wow, firefox is weird... it shows "YES" if I select the text, but switched to a grey "NO" when it loses focus...
00:23:44 <nakilon> guys, how do you pretty print json in command line?
00:24:01 <fizzie> `... | jq .` is what I always do.
00:24:04 <HackEso> ...? No such file or directory
00:24:10 <fizzie> HackEso: That wasn't to you.
00:24:18 <nakilon> the json_pp from wherever it is on my machine is some perl script that is too slow and if I stop it prematurely it fucks up my session
00:25:06 <fizzie> https://0x0.st/-JgT.txt
00:26:38 <fizzie> I use jq so infrequently, I always need to look up how its pipelines and filters and general syntax works if I need to actually *do* anything with it, but I can (barely) manage to remember the `.` filter for just pretty-printing as a side effect.
00:28:21 <nakilon> yeah I wondered about that .
00:33:11 <Corbin> fizzie: Getting good at jq might not be worth it. It's a sort of tacit-ish concatenative-ish language, and it's nice for quick one-liners, but it allows modules and it gets unreadable quickly.
00:33:23 <Corbin> https://github.com/MostAwesomeDude/klesi/blob/master/cat.jq is about as good as I got with it.
00:33:59 <nakilon> nice, it's millions times faster than json_pp
00:54:33 <zzo38> On my computer the IRC colours are not even interpreted, so it does not say YES or NO
01:07:27 <int-e> zzo38: it uses the █ block drawing character for the YES version
01:07:39 <fizzie> Right, but I guess it would be hard to make out anything if the color codes are left visible.
01:08:06 <int-e> "not even interpreted"... oh
01:08:32 <int-e> yeah that'll look awful
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08:38:07 <HackEso> 530) <Phantom_Hoover> I mean, any organisation called the Scottish Defence League should be beating up English people, what other point would there be?
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09:10:45 <fizzie> Never really thought about the inconsistency that "defence" (de-fence) involves *removing* fences rather than adding them.
09:34:12 <Taneb> fizzie: sometimes what a prefix denotes can be counterintuitive
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10:04:49 <nakilon> is dewall something bigger then defence?
10:05:59 <fizzie> Just another brick in dewall, as they say.
10:07:08 <nakilon> 30 minutes ago I realised I'm dreaming
10:07:37 <wib_jonas> nakilon: no, that's called raise a wall when you build one, or raze a wall when you destroy it, and the two are pronounced exactly the same
10:08:21 <nakilon> usually for different reasons I don't use that, and didn't use it now; because I was in a street, there was a crowd a run partying, there was a cool techno music playing
10:09:23 <nakilon> so I decided to wake up to sing and record that cool musical motive; not sure though how to use it -- there is no working service to find a music from a singing
10:09:57 <nakilon> android can finds music from just 1-2 sec of listening but it needs a real track
10:10:28 <nakilon> btw I hate that people use smartphones ~100-1000 times more than I do and don't even know android can do that
10:11:05 <fizzie> There's that hum-to-search thing, but I've not managed to get it to actually work.
10:11:09 <fizzie> https://blog.google/products/search/hum-to-search/
10:13:53 <nakilon> fizzie hmmm from the gif it looks like they added it into the music search widget
10:14:41 <nakilon> now I understand why widget has changed the icon -- it's a part of "Google" application
10:16:55 <fizzie> Song detection (whether via the Google thing, Shazham or SoundHound) is definitely more robust when you've got a clip of an actual recording, even if it's pretty faint or garbled. The humming blog post claims "you don’t need perfect pitch to use this feature", but I feel like there's still some sort of a threshold, like you need to at least get the direction of most pitch changes right or
10:16:57 <fizzie> something. And I'm bad at making sounds with my mouth.
10:17:16 <nakilon> heh, it recognized the "Popcorn" track I just singed
10:19:38 <nakilon> :Unable to find a match" for my dream motive (
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10:22:19 <nakilon> I need to upload my recording everywhere with some viral text to make people write tracks then
10:32:05 <nakilon> I looked in a window and saw sky being so weird -- the blue part was white and the clouds were blue, like a negative; I said "dude, take a photo, quick!" and dude started making photos with his ball pen; I though his pen probably has crappy camera, but when I've found my camera it was too late, the sky phenomenon was over, then I went outside,
10:32:05 <nakilon> where the music was playing and people were walking, and one guy on a bicycle flew over our heads at the height of maybe 15 meters; I though "okay, but... he should land within at least 50 meters... hm, he does not land, he went even higher, this is weird, how he does that?..." -- and then I realised...; I hate taking cool photos in dreams -- there
10:32:05 <nakilon> is a huge photo album of beautiful sky there already, and I won't be surprised they are indeed saved in my memory, sometimes dreams have very old references
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15:09:29 <esolangs> [[Portsy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87191&oldid=87190 * RocketRace * (-2) aaa
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16:21:48 <Melvar> <fizzie> Never really thought about the inconsistency that "defence" (de-fence) involves *removing* fences rather than adding them. – It looks like it’s actually that “fence” is just a clipping of “defence”.
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16:53:34 <hanif> recently learnt of this https://www.3blue1brown.com/blog/some1 , perhaps a first foray into making math videos
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17:12:59 <nakilon> защита -- defense, щит -- shield
17:13:50 <nakilon> it's kind of similar in Russian but it's about shield, not fence; and "за" does not mean "un", this particle does not have a particular sense
17:14:52 <nakilon> particle without a particular meaning -- such a tautology, lol
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17:38:40 <b_jonas> the debian 11 release is coming up soon
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18:14:24 <esolangs> [[User talk:Sanscicondos]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87194&oldid=83069 * Sanscicondos * (-89) Removed Featured Language Prototype
18:24:18 <fizzie> I updated my miscellaneous-personal-use VPS (that I normally keep on stable) to bullseye already, because... uh, I forget, but it had a newer version of some software that I wanted on it.
18:32:45 <nakilon> I moved all the stuff to docker on both servers
18:34:32 <nakilon> occasionally host OS would need some updates probably, but instead of updating it directly I will probably just start another instance and move docker containers there one by one
18:35:22 <nakilon> (of course it should be possible to move them all together, I'll just use the event to review/clean any possible mess)
18:36:22 <nakilon> security updates are said to be installed automatically in cloud -- I never checked it but I believe them
18:39:06 <nakilon> "I will probably just start another instance" -- maybe you did the same, can't tell from your message
18:40:36 <nakilon> in fact I've never updated any linux installation ..D
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21:02:09 <river> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMgCBYgVwsI what did he mean by this
21:42:06 <esolangs> [[PL2 vCPU]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87204&oldid=87172 * TeamLightning * (-3) /* Overview */ changed extensible to modular to match GitHub description
21:47:42 <esolangs> [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87205&oldid=87201 * KakkoiiChris * (+233) /* Unary Operators */ Casts can affect arrays too
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23:01:27 <int-e> ...whose bright idea was to stick to 32 bit ints on 64 bit platforms...
23:07:21 <fizzie> I suspect there are several people to blame for that.
23:10:03 <int-e> (I did x & (1 << n) stuff without the proper cast; I should stick to (x >> n) & 1 instead)
23:11:12 <int-e> fizzie: I imagine that it reduced the amount of broken code when the world transitioned from 32 to 64 bit architectures, but by now it's more of a technical debt to my mind
23:15:50 <fizzie> Go's model is to have the set of integer types be int8, int16, int32 and int64, and then make the `int` type an alias for int32 or int64 depending on the target architecture, but make everything (slice lengths, indices, whatever) consistently use the `int` type. Maybe that's a reasonable one.
23:16:41 <fizzie> As for C, wouldn't it be nice if a `long short` was a 24-bit type, and a `short long` was a 48-bit one?
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