00:10:15 <zzo38> How to download raw git objects (the object that it is a hash of) from a remote git service over HTTP(S) (without using the git program)?
00:24:10 <Corbin> Question for lambda-calculus/SKI folks (including ais523 and tromp): I want to define "compiler". Suppose I say: a compiler from languages L to M is an assignment of programs in M to programs in L, such that...
00:25:00 <Corbin> (1) For every pair of total computable functions in L, compiling that pair to M and then composing them is equivalent to composing them in L and then compiling them.
00:26:06 <Corbin> (2) For every program in L which can be written as an expression of S and K combinators (i.e. all of them), the compiler sends that program to an equivalent expression in M.
00:26:28 <Corbin> Is (2) implied by (1)? Is (2) alone sufficient? Is there a massive gaping hole in behavior?
00:26:47 <Corbin> (For bonus points: Is such a compiler always invertible; does it establish a bijection between L and M?)
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00:31:27 <Corbin> Oh, I didn't define equivalence. Equivalence in both L and M is observational/extensional equivalence; the idea is that neither L nor M can tell when the compiler is substituting one equivalent term for another.
00:33:04 <b_jonas> I read just that last part without trying to understand your definition, and now I'm imagining that someone takes two unrelated turing-complete languages, enumerates programs in each of them, writes a compiler forward and a compiler backwards, and then runs both of those an exponential number of times to Schröder-Bernstein a bijective compiler from them. of course the exponential would make it so slow
00:33:10 <b_jonas> that you'd never run it on a real computer on real programs, but you could still make a theoretical implementation.
00:34:15 <Corbin> I can certainly motivate my definition; I'm working with a formalism which explains Turing-completeness in terms of partial combinatory algebras (PCAs), and a PCA can be characterized in terms of SKI combinators (for reasons I admit I don't fully grok).
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00:40:27 <b_jonas> that said, I think you could make a somewhat more practical bijective compiler. it would still require both a forwards and backwards compiler, but instead of Schröder-Bersteining, you'd embed the original program as a comment into the translated program, recognize when there's such a comment and verify that the program is exactly the compilation of the program in the comment and return the original if
00:40:33 <b_jonas> that's the case, plus some more extra nonsense to make it all work out
00:41:01 <b_jonas> and by "practical" I just mean it doesn't take an exponential amount of time to run; it would still be an esoteric and mostly useless thing to actually make it strictly bijective
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00:42:00 <Corbin> Sure. I don't really *want* the bijection, but there's category-theoretic reasons to expect it to be possible/normal.
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00:44:50 <b_jonas> I think to make it work out, I'd need to count how many layers of correctly compiling nested comments there are (which is fast because there's overhead at each layer), and then only trust the comment if there's an odd number of them
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01:48:30 <ais523> Corbin: I'm not sure whether composition is enough for 1, you might need both composition and application
01:49:13 <ais523> there are languages like Underload which blur the boundaries, but I don't think you can write Underload just with compositions of S and K combinators, you need applications too (I might be wrong on this though!)
01:50:01 <ais523> it also has trouble with nondeterministic languages, as "equivalence" is too vague a word for that
01:50:38 <ais523> normally computer scientists use may-equivalence of halting (i.e. either both programs are capable of halting, or neither program is capable of halting), but I'm not sure of the reason for that choice
01:51:43 <Corbin> Ooh, non-deterministic execution's a good point. I don't know how to handle that.
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06:37:53 <zzo38> I figured out how to download git objects but it sends files that I had not requested. How to download only the ones I requested and exclude all other files?
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11:00:29 <wib_jonas> zzo38: you might not be able to, because git usually stores multiple objects compressed together, so it will serve those together. you'll just have to accept the extra objects, or recompress everything discarding what you don't want after you downloaded everything you need
11:01:02 <wib_jonas> that said, I don't understand why you want to do this without git software. doesn't git already have a subcommand to download objects for you?
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16:20:03 <zzo38> My opinion is that the file formats, protocols, commands, etc of fossil are much better; git is much more confusing.
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16:27:54 <zzo38> What does "pijul" means?
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16:31:29 <myname> pijul is a version control system
16:32:59 <zzo38> It is not one that I have look at, so I cannot say about that one.
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17:09:41 <myname> so, my copy of mindbug arrived and it has a weird giant box
17:09:45 <myname> not sure what to make of that
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17:10:10 <int-e> you need a box if you want to think outside of it
17:11:45 <int-e> https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Headcrab <-- also a mindbug of sorts
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18:19:38 <b_jonas> so my new mobile phone has a stupid software bug. there are five sound profiles. one of them is hard-coded silent, but in the other four, you can customize the call ringtone and SMS receive notification tone to whatever audio file you want. however, they've indexed into some array wrong, so the message tone of profile k is always the same as the call tone of profile k-1.
18:20:22 <b_jonas> and I think the message tone of profile 3 is stored somewhere that aliases some completely different memory variable, because I saw a corrupt value there.
18:20:43 <b_jonas> so this goes without saying, ais523, if you ever make a mobile phone software, don't do this stupid mistake
18:21:28 <b_jonas> other than this, there are lots of places where the UI is less convenient than on phones of older brands, requiring too many button presses than you should need for many functions. it seems like they didn't spend too much time testing.
18:21:44 <b_jonas> I wonder if I should try to send them a bug report about the indexing
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19:44:28 <HackEso> Ants are great architects. They are famous for their highways.
19:44:30 <HackEso> Ents are very useful creatures for the puzzle of writing town names in Hungary as the catenation of six or more Hungarian words. Bal-a-s-s-a-gyarmat Bal-a-ton-{s-zár-szó,{rend,szem}-e-s} Egy-ház-a-s-holló-s Fel-s-ősz-ent-már-ton Jász-ár-ok-száll-á-s Ki-s-kun-{fél-egy-ház-a,hal-a-s} Rá-basz-ent-mik-ló-s Vér-te-s-sző-lő-s.
19:44:36 <HackEso> Spelling of -ance/-ence words: advance, science, conference, experience, finance, insurance, licence, performance, reference, assistance, balance, defence, difference, distance, evidence, acceptance, appliance, audience, compliance, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, preference, presence, sentence, sequence, substance, violence, absence, accordance, alliance, appearance, assurance, attendance, circumstance, clearance, confidence, c
19:45:11 <HackEso> 1/1:Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "<string>", line 1, in <module> \ NameError: name 'ance' is not defined
19:45:40 <HackEso> Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "<string>", line 1, in <module> \ NameError: name 'ance' is not defined
19:45:47 <HackEso> 1/2:Spelling of -ance/-ence words: advance, science, conference, experience, finance, insurance, licence, performance, reference, assistance, balance, defence, difference, distance, evidence, acceptance, appliance, audience, compliance, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, preference, presence, sentence, sequence, substance, violence, absence, accordance, alliance, appearance, assurance, attendance, circumstance, clearan
19:45:54 <HackEso> 2/2:ce, confidence, consequence, entrance, excellence, existence, fragrance, governance, guidance, independence, offence, refinance, residence, resistance, romance.
19:46:06 <b_jonas> I need descendant vs descendent
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19:46:29 <b_jonas> fungot, which one is the correct spelling? descendant or descendent
19:50:46 <int-e> isn't one a noun and the other an adjective
19:51:18 <lambdabot> I saw fungot leaving #esolangs 3d 15h 25m 5s ago.
19:52:30 <b_jonas> "one a noun and the other an adjective" => that's very unlikely with an -ant/-ent or -ance/-ence pair.
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19:54:45 <b_jonas> well, if fungot is unavailable, I'll have to check the big Oxford dictionary on my shelf
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19:56:27 <b_jonas> heck. the dictionary confirms what you say
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19:56:53 <b_jonas> "descendant" is a noun that's the opposite of ancestor, meaning familiar relation or similar;
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19:57:24 <b_jonas> "descendent" is an adjective that I can probably forget about and just say "descending" instead
19:59:10 <b_jonas> (or "anti-monotone" if I'm feeling fancy, though we usually reserve that when the domain and/or range is only partially ordered, not necessarily totally ordered)
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20:19:24 <fizzie> fungot: Where were you?
20:19:25 <fungot> fizzie: much /less/? ( syn+ack)
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20:22:57 <fungot> b_jonas: i could write fairly brief input and output windows doesn't let you very clearly manipulate the environment.
20:26:40 <int-e> does fungot send its own pings? (I suppose the bot wouldn't; is the wrapper more than just socat?)
20:26:40 <fungot> int-e: i learned scheme in 2 hours? :p. ugh i need to what, eating cooked meat? might want to look into
20:27:27 <int-e> (if not... this could be the usual semi-open TCP connection)
20:38:14 <b_jonas> that reminds me, I wanted to ask something
20:40:35 <b_jonas> If I want free open TCP echo (and possibly UDP echo) servers hosted in North America (and possibly ones hosted in Australia), where would I find them? I'd want this for when I develop software that should ideally work with real-time communication between server and client on separate continents through the internet, to test how usable it is with transatlantic latency and lag spikes, while I still have
20:40:41 <b_jonas> the server and client on the same continent for the test, but use an echo service to simulate the variable lag.
20:41:12 <b_jonas> I know there are more complex protocols that I could use for this, like tor, but if possible I'd like to avoid the additional complications and just use a plain echo.
20:41:42 <b_jonas> Also if possible I don't want to tunnel my messages into ICMP pings, even though that's technically possible.
20:43:30 <b_jonas> An open proxy would be simpler, but nobody likes to run those these days, however I think an echo service (which sends the data back in the same TCP connection or to the same UDP host-port where they came from) would be much harder to abuse.
20:46:53 <b_jonas> This is mostly theoretical, making such software is very low priorities among my long todos.
20:52:14 <esolangs> [[User:Yes]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99831&oldid=99770 * Yes * (+71)
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23:30:06 <esolangs> [[BRUH]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99856&oldid=95796 * Kaveh Yousefi * (-62) Rectified the Adder example which, owing to a superfluous dextral pointer translation, hitherto would attempt to move beyond the rightmost accumulator.
23:31:23 <esolangs> [[BRUH]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99857&oldid=99856 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+168) Added a cat program as a further example.
23:32:42 <esolangs> [[BRUH]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99858&oldid=99857 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+4) Rectified the description of the URU command which, appropriated from brainfuck, should jump back if the accumulator is not zero.
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23:33:25 <esolangs> [[BRUH]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99859&oldid=99858 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+158) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the BRUH programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
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