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01:28:10 <esolangs> [[Codon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107565 * Dtp09 * (+3916) Created page with "= page is a WIP = '''Codon''' is an esolang created by [[User:Dtp09]]. It has about the same concept as [[RNA]] with a different syntax. Codon uses mRNA as programs, being read as codons and amino acids as opcodes and operands. ==Protein Synthesis and RNA== '''Protein synt
01:29:46 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107566&oldid=107565 * Dtp09 * (+71)
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03:22:01 <esolangs> [[User:Dtp09]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107568&oldid=105493 * Dtp09 * (+12) /* languages i made */
03:24:00 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107569&oldid=107566 * Dtp09 * (-57) /* Protein Synthesis and RNA */
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04:12:05 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107570&oldid=107569 * Dtp09 * (-135) /* Codon Chart */
04:14:00 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107571&oldid=107570 * Dtp09 * (+249) /* page is a WIP and i will finish it later */
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05:36:08 <esolangs> [[Cammy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107573&oldid=107521 * Corbin * (+65) /* Semantics */ Fix a type signature.
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10:27:29 <esolangs> [[Ral]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107574&oldid=76215 * Herman-L * (+0) Update the CG&CC username
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14:25:45 <esolangs> [[Tenshi C]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107576&oldid=107383 * Richard565 * (+377) Some type based issues
14:29:37 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107577&oldid=107572 * Dtp09 * (+67) /* Syntax */
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14:34:01 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Abelisaurus * New user account
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14:49:42 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107578&oldid=107577 * Dtp09 * (+619)
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15:40:44 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107579&oldid=107578 * Dtp09 * (-27) /* Codon Chart */
15:41:17 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107580&oldid=107579 * Dtp09 * (+24) /* Syntax */
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16:33:18 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107581&oldid=107580 * Dtp09 * (+860)
16:33:56 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107582&oldid=107581 * Dtp09 * (-9) /* Immediate values */
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17:59:35 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107583&oldid=107567 * Abelisaurus * (+322) Wrote my introduction
18:03:18 <esolangs> [[User:Abelisaurus]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107584 * Abelisaurus * (+158) Added my details
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19:48:24 <esolangs> [[User:Uilebheist]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107585&oldid=98152 * Uilebheist * (+386) Updating links and adding something more about dd/sh
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20:59:30 <b_jonas> so you remember how people spreaded tales about how the maya calendar would overflow in year 2012 and since the mayans were ancient and wise clearly this means that the world will end in 2012. maybe a few billion years ago our descendants will remember that we measured time in seconds in signed 64-bit time_t variables and conclude that since we were ancient and wise clearly the world will end 2**63
20:59:36 <b_jonas> seconds after the big bang (or 2**63 seconds after the unix epoch)
21:00:04 <Riviera> b_jonas: the world will end in 2012
21:00:10 <b_jonas> we're between 2**58 and 2**59 seconds after the big bang so 2**63 seconds is a reasonable length for that myth
21:01:23 <int-e> b_jonas: what did you do with the time line there? "ago" usually applies to the past.
21:02:48 <b_jonas> s/a few billion years ago/a few billion years from now/
21:07:16 <b_jonas> and yes, this doesn't make sense because of general relativity
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21:24:29 <b_jonas> or they'll think that our decimal SI system is ancient and wise and so the world will end earlier, a mere zettasecod after the big bang
21:28:11 <b_jonas> or hopefully none of that because they'll have someone less ancient and more wise to derive their myths from
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21:45:38 <esolangs> [[Codon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107586&oldid=107582 * Dtp09 * (+219) /* Opcodes */
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21:52:50 <FireFly> b_jonas: ..but why would the time since big bang be signed..
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22:19:50 <zzo38> I read somewhere about they thought there is the "mirror universe" before the big bang
22:29:32 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans/Deadfish in one statement of C Sharp]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107587 * BoundedBeans * (+10441) Created page with "I wrote a [[Deadfish]] interpreter in C#, and while that might not be super special on its own, this Deadfish interpreter uses only one statement, and it doesn't cheat by using lambda expressions for blocks. (It does
22:30:38 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107588&oldid=107533 * BoundedBeans * (+106)
22:32:20 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans/Deadfish in one statement of C Sharp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107589&oldid=107587 * BoundedBeans * (+246)
22:41:06 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans/Deadfish in one statement of C Sharp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107590&oldid=107589 * BoundedBeans * (+175)
22:45:44 <esolangs> [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107591&oldid=107047 * BoundedBeans * (+186) Added Deadfish in one statement of C#
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23:31:30 <b_jonas> FireFly: the code often has to take the difference between two timestamps, and this difference should fit into a signed integer
23:33:44 <b_jonas> FireFly: you know, like how fseeko or lseek has to take a signed file offset because you can seek relative to the current tell, even if all absolute offsets in a file are nonnegative; or subtracting two pointers into the same array returns a signed integer, which could overflow if the length of your array is more than fits into a signed integer
23:45:58 <int-e> "signed file offset" -- I momentarily tried to read that in a crypto context
23:49:23 <FireFly> idly reminds me of signed pointers :p
23:49:55 <FireFly> though I think the ones with a cryptographic signature are called something else
23:52:46 <shachaf> Man, I'm skeptical that "the current file offset" should even be part of the OS file API.
23:54:08 <FireFly> curious about the reasoning
23:55:53 <shachaf> I guess I'm not sure about the benefit of maintaining it in the kernel rather than in userspace.
23:56:28 <int-e> FireFly: it's a headache in connection with threads
23:56:29 <shachaf> It doesn't really make sense if you have concurrent reads/writes to the same file -- in that case you presumably always want to pread/pwrite.
23:57:07 <shachaf> I sort of feel like the reasoning for it might have to do with things like appends and streams, but even those behave in a kind of bizarre way.
23:57:15 <int-e> well, as with many things it's sometimes useful... but how many programs that append interchangeable records to files do you really have?
23:57:27 <shachaf> If a file is in append mode, a write to it ignores the offset anyway.
23:59:12 <FireFly> that's a fair point re userspace vs kernel space
23:59:44 <int-e> I guess mmap() alleviates the pain in practice for files that aren't super big, where the "super big" threshold got a massive boost with the switch to 64 bit systems (with 2^48 bits or so address space).
23:59:46 <FireFly> maybe the offset should (also) be maintained in userspace abstractions over the file interface