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00:51:24 <zzo38> I think that UEFI is no good. I had idea how to make better one. The booting order will be configured, and then at the end is the ROM OS (which would be a Forth-based system stored in ROM, so that the computer can be used without an operating system). The disk has the table with three columns: computer type, address on disk, length. (You can have more than one with the same computer type, if desired.)
00:53:00 <zzo38> And then, it is simply loaded into memory and executed (like PC booting does). The BIOS will provide the functions available for boot loader: "input ASCII", "output ASCII", "read disk", "read parameter", "next boot". (There is no "write disk" function; use operating system drivers if you want to write on disks.)
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02:06:51 <Hooloovoo> that... sounds pretty similar to the old BIOS system used on x86 machines
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02:55:17 <zzo38> Yes, it is similar to PC BIOS in some ways. (On a computer that is a PC, it would even be possible to also implement PC BIOS and PC booting system too, so PC-based operating systems will work too.) However, it is different in some ways.
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06:06:16 <zzo38> I implemented EUC-JP (if I have not made a mistake), and EUC-TRON (which is a superset of EUC-JP), but now I will try to implement encode/decode Shift-JIS, which is a bit more complicated and more messy (I think that EUC-JP is generally better than Shift-JIS anyways, especially for C codes; Shift-JIS is no good for any format that uses the ASCII characters 0x40 to 0x7E for special purposes, including C codes)
06:10:06 <zzo38> (Possibly also can add in future, EUC-CN, EUC-KR, EUC-TW, EUC-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, etc)
06:15:58 <b_jonas> fizzie: directly loading a kernel without a boot loader, and not from a floppy disk boot sector? what is this magic?
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20:01:06 <esolangs> [[User:Mkukiro]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107689&oldid=107298 * Mkukiro * (+10)
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22:13:05 <zzo38> I wrote a program which includes (among other conversions) also the conversion between Shift-JIS, EUC-JP, and TRON; however, it is not fully tested.
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23:05:17 <esolangs> [[EchoLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107690&oldid=107530 * I rember * (-2)
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23:07:35 <esolangs> [[EchoLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107691&oldid=107690 * I rember * (-74)
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23:40:48 <esolangs> [[Unarian]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107692&oldid=106873 * Crb233 * (+2570) Once again updated this page to match Github
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