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07:28:49 <ais523> so a problem I'm kind-of stuck on at the moment: given a directed acyclic graph, determine whether or not there are two different paths connecting the same two points
07:28:57 <ais523> it's easy to do in quadratic time, but I'm wondering whether it can be done faster
07:29:17 <ais523> (these are directed paths, otherwise it'd be easy)
07:30:08 <ais523> actually, I'm less interested in the problem itself and more interested in what sort of data structure solves it
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08:50:47 <b_jonas> ais523: do you need two paths that are merely different, or edge-disjoint, or node-disjoint?
08:51:35 <ais523> b_jonas: merely different – although all the definitions are the same because it's not "between two particular points" but "between any two points"
08:51:57 <ais523> so if there are two paths between A and B that both go through C, for example, there are also two paths from either A to C or C to B
08:52:18 <ais523> (or both)
08:52:42 <ais523> so if it can be done with two arbitrary paths, it can also be done with two node-disjoint (apart from the endpoints) paths
08:52:46 <b_jonas> oh, between any two points
08:54:07 <ais523> between two particular points is easy I think, just do a tsort to see which point comes earlier, then a BFS from the earlier point that counts the number of paths from that point to each other point
08:54:16 <b_jonas> yeah, any two points sounds less trivial
08:54:22 <ais523> (my quadratic-time algorithm is doing that starting from every point)
08:54:55 <ais523> (or, well, skipping the ones that are downstream of a point you've already checked)
08:55:04 <ais523> (but that doesn't change the computational complexity)
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18:41:06 <b_jonas> ais523: interesting question. I'm trying to think about the restricted version where the digraph doesn't have 3 long directed paths, so there are just three layers and you want to find two length 2 directed paths with the same start and endpoint.
19:08:53 <shachaf> Oh man, someone mentioned N Step Steve and my save file is apparently gone.
19:08:59 <shachaf> Which is what I expect from browser-based things.
19:19:12 <fizzie> More browser-based things should have a save game export/import facility so you can put them in just regular files if they're important.
19:57:42 <shachaf> Right.
19:57:48 <shachaf> Though I'd rather this just not be a browser-based thing.
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20:58:52 <zzo38> I made up a font, now. (I think some other people on here have also made up a font.)
21:00:59 <zzo38> It includes JIS X 0213, JIS X 0212, GB 2312, KS C 5601, 6-dot Braille, and 8-dot Braille. However, only the braille is my own glyphs; the others are from other sources
21:02:55 <zzo38> (I also put them together in one font; previously they were separated by several fonts)
21:34:29 <b_jonas> zzo38: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Font
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23:40:03 <zzo38> b_jonas: Thank you. However, what I made is a bit different from those, and has a different format, and is mostly combined from other fonts (the file which was used to control the combination is available too). (It might be possible to write a converter into pcf and other bitmap font formats, although I have not done so.)
23:40:30 <zzo38> The file which controls the conversion is: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zzo38/scorpion/trunk/gui/font/T0021_16x16.make
23:41:31 <zzo38> (Change the end from ".make" to ".font" to download the font file itself. The program that makes the conversion, and documentation of the file format, are also available.)
23:44:44 <zzo38> Also, why is the "Font" article with the categories, which it would probably only be applicable for programming languages? (I doubt any category is actually appropriate, in this case)
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