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02:20:15 <esolangs> [[Everyonelang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124102&oldid=124101 * Qawtykit * (+74) making sure F is the only command for file I/O you will ever need
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03:33:38 <int-e> I hate poking around in Firefox's CSS... but it's usable for me again. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1877422#c3 :-) (Maybe I should make a theme.)
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09:31:52 <esolangs> [[Talk:Translated ORK]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124104 * MihaiEso * (+1157) Created page with "Wow. ~~~~ What I did was: <pre> ModernMT: English -> Zulu ModernMT: Yoruba -> English ModernMT: English -> Yoruba ModernMT: Zulu -> English ModernMT: English -> Zulu ModernMT: Yoruba -> English </pre> What I get is: <pre> The cockroaches are getting as
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11:39:08 <wib_jonas> oh darn it. so the Microsoft VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) editor likes to reformat the code. it normalizes all the horizontal whitespace, so you can't keep stuff aligned vertically across lines (it keeps the indentation at the start of a line, as well as the horizontal position of where extra statements start if you put more than one in a
11:39:08 <wib_jonas> line). it normalizes integer constants by removing their leading zeroes and redundant type sigils, which means you can't just write &H01000000& so the reader can tell which position the one bit is easily, the editor changes it to &H1000000& and good luck counting those zeroes. It normalizes the case of identifiers that are either builtins or exist
11:39:09 <wib_jonas> in the application interface, which gets ugly when two different identifiers that differ only in their case exist in the interface and the editor keeps changing them randomly, including re-changing them in functions that you aren't even editing when you write the identifier elsewhere.
11:39:33 <wib_jonas> it changes "EndIf" to "End If". so far these are annoying but at least they don't change the semantics of the code.
11:41:01 <wib_jonas> but I just found out that there's a case when the editor even edits the code in a way that changes the meaning of the code: it truncates 32-bit float literals to 7 significant decimal digits, even though you need 8 digits to be able to represent any value.
11:43:15 <wib_jonas> that I won't stand for, and even though in this particular case my literals don't need much precision, I'm going to write them as string constants that I numify later
11:44:32 <wib_jonas> sure, I could just write them as double-precision float literals instead, but I refuse
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12:43:39 <ais523> VBA was one of the first programming languages I learned, so I didn't see the reformatting as odd at the time
12:44:20 <ais523> (and many of the previous languages had been other BASICs, many of which also reformat the code – I think it's fairly common for BASICs to store the program in tokenized form so they don't actually know what the whitespace was when the program was entered)
12:59:05 <wib_jonas> sure, a lot of VBA, including the reformatting, is inherited from previous Microsoft Basics. you can tell that from the numeric error codes. the most common error number is 5, called "Invalid function call", which you get for basically any runtime error that they didn't bother to assign a specific error code. the error numbers used to be assigned
12:59:05 <wib_jonas> contiguously from 1 up, with more common errors getting a lower code (sort of like with unix errno codes), so one of the most common error codes used to be 2 (still the same as unix errno codes) meaning syntax error, but since that's a compile-time error it no longer has an error code, because you can't catch it in runtime, so that code is no
13:01:21 <wib_jonas> there are a lot of other compatibility features that you can find, including how val("3D2") returns 3E2: in older basics the exponent letter used to be D for double precision and E for single precision; in VBA both mean double precision because double-precision numbers are no longer so slow that you don't use them as default in BASIC programs, but
13:01:21 <wib_jonas> the D is still supported for reading
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17:47:34 <esolangs> [[Summatciin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124132&oldid=108853 * BoundedBeans * (+27) Disallowed non-literal namespaces in functions
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21:49:32 <esolangs> [[Talk:Cheese]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124148&oldid=39841 * Angel * (+22) /* cheese */ new section
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22:06:59 <esolangs> [[Everyonelang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124149&oldid=124147 * Qawtykit * (+409) If the repl command isn't actually self-modification, i'll be sure to delete this
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