00:09:41 <esolangs> [[Drive-In Window TC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124154 * BoundedBeans * (+519) Created page with "Drive-In Window TC is an esolang by [[User:BoundedBeans]]. It is based on [[Drive-In Window]], but Turing-complete. ==Commands== All of the commands in Drive-In Window plus: {| class="wikitable" | Person N would like to get takeout. || Pushes the value
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03:05:26 <esolangs> [[Drive-In Window TC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124163&oldid=124155 * BoundedBeans * (+3008) Added proof
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04:40:52 <esolangs> [[Drive-In Window TC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124168&oldid=124163 * BoundedBeans * (+182) Added implementation
04:42:27 <esolangs> [[Drive-In Window TC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124169&oldid=124168 * BoundedBeans * (+73) Credited implementation
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07:20:32 <hppavilion[1]> I'm struck with the idea to create a high-level programming language that still feels like a Turing machine. Code is organized into named state blocks, with the main methods of control flow being conditionals and state transitions. A loop is implemented by setting up your state transitions so that they cycle.
07:20:51 <hppavilion[1]> Except this might just be a trivial rewriting of regular old assembly language. Not sure.
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13:11:04 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124176&oldid=124116 * None1 * (+123) /* My Esolangs */
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13:30:32 <esolangs> [[KeyF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124179&oldid=124178 * None1 * (+0) /* Print HI */
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13:32:07 <esolangs> [[KeyF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124181&oldid=124179 * None1 * (+1355) /* Examples */ Added Python interpreter and implemented category tag
13:48:53 <esolangs> [[KeyF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124182&oldid=124181 * None1 * (+139) Added hello world example
13:50:03 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124183&oldid=123828 * None1 * (+128) /* Keg */ Added Hello World! in [[KeyF]]
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13:57:29 <esolangs> [[Everyonelang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124186&oldid=124149 * None1 * (+65) /* Instructions */
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19:56:36 <esolangs> [[Grounded]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124196&oldid=124195 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+216) Rectified the Wikipedia reference URL, added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Grounded programming language on GitHub, and supplemented further page categories.
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20:59:03 <fizzie> Oh for crying out loud. I've got a Windows installation on a separate drive for those rare occasions when it's needed; it's been getting quite bloaty (due to all kinds of random experiments), so I thought I'd do a clean installation since I need to migrate it to a slightly smaller drive anyway (512G → 500G) due to reasons.
20:59:07 <fizzie> But the Windows 10 installer just stops with: "Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of installation."
20:59:11 <fizzie> AFAICT, this usually means it doesn't like other drives being present in the system. So I thought "oh, I'll just disable them in the BIOS, it'll be better anyway to ensure it doesn't touch the Linux installation".
20:59:19 <fizzie> But apparently at least on this motherboard, you can only disable SATA ports in BIOS, not M.2 NVMe slots. And that's where the Linux SSDs are now (as well as the one I'm trying to put Windows on).
20:59:26 <esolangs> [[Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124201&oldid=124013 * PaxtonPenguin * (-1) Fixed the user thing
21:00:23 <fizzie> I'd have to remove the GPU to be able to physically pull them out during the installation. Why can't this thing just rely on me picking the right boot option when it restarts during the installation?
21:01:13 <fizzie> Sounds like it *might* work even with the other drives present if I make the drive bootable enough that I can make it the preferred boot option. Or not.
21:02:21 <int-e> You shall have no OS before me.
21:09:42 <b_jonas> fizzie: wait, aren't you installing and running windows only in a virtual machine anyway? why would you trust Windows to access your whole computer?
21:10:17 <b_jonas> if it's virtualized then you can ensure that the windows disk is the first one
21:10:55 <b_jonas> if I have to install windows on my home machine to test random stuff then I'll definitely only do it in a virtual machine
21:11:34 <b_jonas> I don't currently have a windows on my home machine because the work laptop is running windowses and that's enough for the random tests
21:18:07 <fizzie> I should probably do the virtualized thing. But I used to play games on it, and at least back when I set it up last it didn't really seem feasible to do that wrapped inside a VM.
21:22:01 <fizzie> For the last couple of years, the Proton thing has been good enough to take care of that particular thing. But I feel like I should keep a "native" Windows installation around just in case there's something I want to play that needs it.
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21:24:53 <ais523> <fizzie> Why can't this thing just rely on me picking the right boot option when it restarts during the installation? ← it doesn't need to, UEFI has a way for an OS to say "please pick this boot option on next boot"
21:25:12 <fizzie> Well, why does it not do that then?
21:25:37 <int-e> I believe I gave the right answer ;-)
21:25:47 <ais523> I don't know – I suspect that the programmers either didn't know what they were doing or didn't care to test/implement multiboot setups
21:30:12 <int-e> or maybe "people who do that tend to block our telemetry"
21:31:20 <fizzie> There's also a really annoying new hum in the system after the hardware changes that I haven't been able to track down. :/
21:31:37 <fizzie> Usually that's been a matter of trying to touch various things while it's making the noise to figure out what part is vibrating.
21:32:15 <fizzie> But I haven't found any spot where touching it would make the hum stop, and it seems really hard to localize by sound.
21:32:45 <int-e> would be funny if this was the old fashioned thing... a transformer
21:33:25 <int-e> Sadly it probably isn't.
21:33:50 <int-e> (because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply )
21:36:56 <fizzie> I'd guesstimate the hum is somewhere around 400 Hz, if that helps identify the source.
21:39:13 <b_jonas> I don't have experience in this, but I think you can virtualize GPU these days, so you can play many games.
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21:44:34 <ais523> int-e: my experience with PSU transformer hum is that it generally raises in pitch after the power is off (gradually, like a chirp rather than a step function)
21:44:40 <ais523> that might be a good way to work out whether it's that or something else
21:44:55 <ais523> (of course, it eventually stops altogether when the capacitors drain)
21:45:07 <fizzie> A spectrum analyzer says it's actually a 277 Hz hum.
21:46:11 <ais523> I am somewhat surprised that you just happen to have a spectrum analyzer :-D
21:46:17 <int-e> > 277/8 * 60 -- possible fan RPM?
21:46:32 <fizzie> I mean, it's just an Android app, it's not a dedicated device.
21:46:46 <ais523> I was wondering if you could do that in software nowadays
21:47:11 <int-e> (the main thing with fans though is that you'd expect to hear them spin up and down)
21:47:21 <ais523> much of my undergraduate degree took place in rooms full of miscellaneous measuring devices, although I rarely used anything beyond a multimeter
21:47:41 <ais523> and an oscilloscope on rare occasions
21:47:52 <b_jonas> at work I run virtualized windows guests on a windows host, but the guests aren't doing anything that needs a GPU
21:47:52 <fizzie> The fan speeds are ~513 RPM and ~700 RPM.
21:48:51 <fizzie> There's of course a couple of spinning hard drives in there, but grabbing those didn't seem to stop it either.
21:50:07 <fizzie> Also if I use hdparm to spin them all down, the hum doesn't go away.
21:55:50 <b_jonas> int-e: wait, why (/8)? don't computer fans have 7 or 9 blades?
21:56:36 <int-e> b_jonas: it was one of several conceivable values
21:57:02 <fizzie> The case fans are Noctua NF-A14 fans, which do indeed have 7 blades.
21:58:33 <int-e> b_jonas: I actually haven't looked at a fan in a fairly long time, never mind counted the blades.
21:59:08 <fizzie> I didn't notice the hum before installing the new GPU, but the fan in that one isn't spinning, and while they do have the coil whine thing, that's usually a whine, not a hum.
22:02:47 <fizzie> I guess there's a fan in the PSU too, didn't really think of that one.
22:27:27 <fizzie> Moving the microphone around, it *does* seem loudest near the PSU. I should probably put the computer in the middle of the floor, open all the panels, and see if it still hums.
22:27:55 <fizzie> Though when I did try that one morning it just gradually stopped humming before I could find anything useful.
22:43:40 <b_jonas> with such a low frequency hum you can't easily localize it by moving around the microphone
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23:17:32 <esolangs> [[0bIN]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124202 * PaxtonPenguin * (+667) Created page with "A programming language that uses only binary* You need to convert the symbols into binary {| class="wikitable" |+ |- ! The Unbined !! How to |- | + || add 1 to selected item |- | - || subtract |- | ( || loop based on number (eg, 1()) |- | ) || end loop |- | [ || mo
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23:26:56 <fizzie> Ugh. I think aptitude got into a loop of some sort. It says "resolving dependencies..." and it's now up to "open: 171237; closed: 506806; defer: 108; conflict: 144", and I don't think Debian even has that many packages.
23:27:12 <fizzie> It's also taking over 5 gigabytes of memory.
23:27:24 <int-e> I hate when that happens.
23:27:43 <int-e> dist-upgrade tends to push through when safe-upgrade doesn't
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