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01:14:38 <korvo> ais523: Anubis is trivial to bypass by simply solving the challenge; the cost of Anubis is that scrapers with lots of distinct IP addresses will have to solve lots of distinct challenges.
01:30:34 <ais523> korvo: I think the bypass is more along the lines of "you can precompile code that solves the challenge rather than actually running the JavaScript"
01:30:49 <ais523> obviously you still have to do the calculation, but you can do it much faster than a browser can
01:51:13 <strerror> (Meanwhile, legitimate browsers already try to look somewhat alike, all claiming to be the chimeric Mozilla/Chrome/Webkit/likeGecko. Perhaps they'll all claim to be Windows 7 too…)
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02:15:21 <b_jonas> ais523: wait, what calculation does Anubis do that's slow in a browser? browser javascript comes with cryptographic primitives directly callable now.
02:16:50 <b_jonas> unrelated question. if you are writing a story about a fictional animal species, but you want it to sound more realistic and break the suspension of disbelief of the reader less, then you should say that the animal is from Madagascar or New Zealand. if you are writing a story about an esolang but want to make it sound less esoteric, eg. the original posts about Kvikkalkul, then what's the programming
02:16:56 <b_jonas> language equivalent of Madagascar?
02:27:44 <zzo38> Not all legitimate browsers do claim to be Mozilla or Chrome or whatever else it is, e.g. Lynx
02:27:47 <b_jonas> strerror: hmm yeah, that's a good idea. possibly even better is backend mainframes for either banks or airplane tickets, the kind that are using mainframe architecture from 40 years ago and can only be updated in minor ways and takes a day to power cycle, and forces constraings like limits on length and character set of text fields to the entire industry
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03:58:45 <esolangs> [[Mastermind]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=166304&oldid=166303 * MsMissing * (+156) Mastermind was updated
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04:48:48 <zzo38> Today I played Pokemon and I used Thunder Wave on my own pokemon on the second turn, and ended up winning (and the one that was paralyzed (Clefable) never fainted nor switched out during the entire battle). (I did do that deliberately. I don't know how common it is to do things like this, but this time it helped.)
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04:53:52 <b_jonas> zzo38: did this involve a double battle?
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05:05:40 <zzo38> (My other pokemon was Grimmsnarl with Prankster ability, and used Light Screen on the first turn, and switched out on the third turn, and then never came back in. Although some of my pokemons were damaged, the only one that actually fainted did so due to recoil damage on the last turn of the battle.)
05:07:14 <zzo38> (Sometimes, that happens. Another time, I thought I was going to lose because I had only Butterfree and Beedrill (without mega-evolution; I think usually they do but in this case it had Bug Gem instead) left and opponent had four pokemons, and I ended up winning anyways. Other times, it seems that I would win, and then I ended up losing instead.)
05:08:04 <zzo38> (You should know what to save for later, and sometimes will do it wrong especially if there is no team preview, then it makes it more difficult to know what you might need later.)
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12:32:08 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=166312&oldid=166277 * C++DSUCKER * (+17) addeed muh new language
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15:18:46 <esolangs> [[SKI combinator calculus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=166321&oldid=34553 * Aadenboy * (+13) redirect to section
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18:00:17 <korvo> Okay, I've now written a small amount of Execline. Before, I'd only written a tiny amount. This is *so much better* than POSIX shell scripting! It seems like the *only* thing I can't do is a stateful while-loop, but otherwise it's a very lightweight way to wire up some commands in a pipe with some basic conditionals.
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18:58:18 <b_jonas> I have a small design problem with Enchain, the esolang that I'm trying to design. So I want Enchain values have types known at compile-time. But I want to keep the type system as simple as possible so that the language is easier to write a compiler for, so I would really prefer if there were no derived types (eg. no type constructors with arguments) and no implicit conversions between types. now I want
18:58:25 <b_jonas> to have very simple dynamically allocated array of integer types, where you can calloc an array of a size of your choice, or free it, or index into it, or index assign into it. I'd probably have arrays of int32, arrays of int8, and possibly arrays of int16 that work this way. that's three separate types and I'm fine with that much. but I'd also like to have array literals, which are constant arrays
18:58:31 <b_jonas> initialized from numbers listed in the source code, as decimal or hexadecimal numbers or, in the case of int8 arrays, initializing from literal strings should also be possible. but now I have a choice between three designs, neither perfect. (1) literal arrays are the same type as dynamically allocated arrays. but I want literals to be read-only, and this wouldn't let me check that constraint at
18:58:37 <b_jonas> compile-time, so either writing literals would be UB or I'd need a slightly more complex runtime check every time you indexed assign into an array. (2) literal arrays are a separate type, array indexing and a bunch of other functions (fwrite, memcpy) are each duplicated, one version takes a literal array, the other a dynamically allocated array. I might add a special type of string literal that can only
18:58:43 <b_jonas> puts itself as a shortcut. (3) there are three types: literal array, dynamically allocated array, and read-only array. the first two can be explicitly converted to the third. but now you need to write an explicit conversion whenever you want to index into an array (even if you can move it out from a loop).
18:59:38 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=166330&oldid=166057 * Aadenboy * (-169) /* programming languages */
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23:05:11 <Sgeo> Esolang idea: Standardized programming language to be used for educational material for decades, but no I/O in the standard.
23:06:37 <Sgeo> (Does being used for educational purposes disqualify a language from being esoteric? Brainfuck arguably can be used to teach about Turing completeness)
23:07:17 <Sgeo> Is lack of I/O the most esoteric thing about Algol-60?
23:07:58 <Sgeo> Does inventing something that would be used by most later languages count as esoteric? Strange at the time, standard now?
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