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01:24:53 <esolangs> [[Supervised P with Printing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180685&oldid=180000 * Squidmanescape * (+950) yes
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07:37:10 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Stavmouse * New user account
07:41:58 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180686&oldid=180649 * Stavmouse * (+205) /* Introductions */
07:43:04 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180687&oldid=180686 * Stavmouse * (-9) /* Introductions */
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09:46:49 <esolangs> [[User:Uff20xd]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180688&oldid=174354 * Uff20xd * (+13) Added walkson
09:53:32 <esolangs> [[Walkson]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180689 * Uff20xd * (+188) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Walkson |paradigms=imperative |author=[[Uff20xd]] |year=[[:Category:2026] |memsys=[[:Category:Stack-based]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] }}"
10:03:28 <esolangs> [[/\]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180690&oldid=178774 * Dragoneater67mobile * (+0) correction
10:29:47 <esolangs> [[Walkson]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180691&oldid=180689 * Uff20xd * (+1384) Actually add the language description and such.
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15:04:31 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Chimera418 * New user account
15:20:15 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180693&oldid=180687 * Chimera418 * (+276)
15:40:51 <esolangs> [[CMRA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180694 * Chimera418 * (+4381) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name = CMRA |paradigms = imperative |author = Chimera418 |year = 2026 |class = unknown |majorimpl = Python (cmra interpreter) }} '''CMRA''' is an esoteric programming language that explores reversible execution using a global direction model. Progra
15:42:36 <esolangs> [[Cmra]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180695 * Chimera418 * (+18) Redirected page to [[CMRA]]
15:47:06 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180696&oldid=180651 * Chimera418 * (+11)
15:50:47 <esolangs> [[CMRA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180697&oldid=180694 * Aadenboy * (+157) fix formatting + mark as AI
15:52:21 <esolangs> [[Category:Generated by AI]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180698&oldid=169982 * Aadenboy * (+31) redefine based on IRC chat
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16:24:39 <esolangs> [[Talk:CMRA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180699 * Corbin * (+151) Created page with "Have you actually shown that Fire and Shadow are semantically equivalent? ~~~~"
16:24:54 <korvo> Students saying "I made this" while holding something covered in Claude's fingerprints... We really have reached a new era of plagiarism.
17:14:36 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Danieland! * New user account
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17:20:27 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180700&oldid=180693 * Danieland! * (+58) added my summary!
17:32:44 <b_jonas> korvo: is that more plagiarism than before, when they said "I made this" while holding something copied from a web forum or from a fellow student and covered with obvious fingerprints of those?
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17:34:18 <b_jonas> because that's what we had in my time, all the students already had good internet access
17:35:32 <b_jonas> does this make me sound too old or too young?
17:40:06 <esolangs> [[Mhm!/Turing-completeness proof]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180701 * Aadenboy * (+2776) yahoo another BCT implementation!!
17:44:28 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mhm!/Turing-completeness proof]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180702 * Aadenboy * (+783) Created page with "this program is best viewed in my interpreter with <code>--showloose=b,b.,c..</code>. Mhm! is definitely more space-inclined than pointer-inclined, and I wonder if reinterpreting it as a tree would help. I'm finding that bits can very easily
17:45:59 <korvo> b_jonas: I'm viewing it more as a difference in quality. There's two kinds of students who use the bots now. One kind wasn't even trying; they'd post "lol brainfuck but with a butt operator" and now they write "**ButtFuck** is a [[Brainfuck derivative]] which..." with a thousand tokens of Claude.
17:46:34 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180703&oldid=179675 * Aadenboy * (+138) TC!
17:46:43 <korvo> The other kind would just rip off some existing language and change the names of everything to make it theirs. These students haven't changed but now they're faster. The bot turns anybody into a script kiddie.
17:47:06 <esolangs> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180704&oldid=174891 * Aadenboy * (+38) /* Survey */ add [[Mhm!]]
17:47:30 <korvo> The bot can do it all: hacker, code cracker, slacker, slinging 9 to 5 at Hewlett Packard. (What!?)
17:47:35 <esolangs> [[Semi-serious language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180705&oldid=180613 * Aadenboy * (+11) /* M */ add [[Mhm!]]
17:48:52 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180706&oldid=179674 * Aadenboy * (+62) /* my own esolangs */ mark [[Mhm!]] as TC
17:50:29 <korvo> (Fun English history. The term "rip off" comes from improperly removing inventory tags and trademarked badgets. The term "cut out" comes from removing pages from inventory catalogs. Both are signs of organized crime as opposed to individual stealing.)
17:50:41 <esolangs> [[EsoInterpreters]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180707&oldid=177926 * Aadenboy * (+551) /* Main table */ add [[Mhm!]]
18:02:14 <esolangs> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180708&oldid=180704 * Corbin * (-114) /* Linguistic elements */ Clean up unclear referents and subordinate clauses. Also, conventions. Also, citations needed, and I'm removing the uncited stuff for which I haven't seen evidence.
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18:42:32 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180709&oldid=180703 * Aadenboy * (-2)
18:49:18 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180710&oldid=180709 * Aadenboy * (-85) reword
18:53:50 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180711&oldid=180710 * Aadenboy * (+74)
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20:01:49 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180712&oldid=180711 * Aadenboy * (+269) reframing this to refer to memory as a tree instead so it's much clearer. still unsure on how to better word `(`'s description
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20:11:59 <esolangs> [[Mhm!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180713&oldid=180712 * Aadenboy * (+23)
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23:24:47 <Sgeo> New computer idea: Someone should design a supercomputer that supports bit addressing. Then watch it fail in the marketplace and another supercomputer built by another company, and the CEO of the first company should insult the second small company
23:25:19 <Sgeo> Ok so maybe that's a bit of a stretch
23:30:35 <korvo> Trying to figure out who this is a reference to. Not Cray or Sinclair, I think.
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23:31:24 <korvo> Oh! Drat, I don't remember the name. An early Apple-like company with a singular person doing both the design and sales. They expanded early and then cannibalized themselves by announcing their v2 hardware before v1 had even hit the shelves, causing both v1 and v2 sales to crater.
23:31:54 <korvo> Poor guy ended up deeply resentful. But he was also something of an asshole IIRC. Wish I could remember the name.
23:46:51 * Sgeo was thinking of IBM Stretch
23:47:39 <Sgeo> https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/supercomputers/10/33/62
23:48:02 <Sgeo> korvo, are you thinking of Osborne?
23:48:26 <Sgeo> (I'm not sure about most of it but v2 cannabalizing v1 is "Osborne effect")
23:48:28 <korvo> Sgeo: Yes! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_Computer_Corporation So, did I get it right? Who were you thinking of?
23:49:14 <Sgeo> korvo, IBM's CEO insulting CDC (which included Cray) https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/supercomputers/10/33/62
23:49:35 <Sgeo> Or maybe "insulting" is the wrong word. Upset that CDC beat them
23:49:55 <korvo> I think I have a hash collision on "Osborne" because my mind uses phonetics and "Osborn" is the name of a person in the Spider-Man universe. (Which is not big in my life, but big in a girlfriend's life, so.)
23:50:48 <korvo> Wow, that's delightful. Thanks for sharing.
23:51:10 <Sgeo> You're welcome
23:51:50 <Sgeo> I've tried to learn a bit about IBM 7030 ("Stretch"). All I've retained so far is that it supports bit addressing
23:52:02 <Sgeo> 64-bit words. CDC 6600 used 60-bit words
23:52:37 <ais523> hmm, doesn't even current x86 support a bit-test instruction that will move into adjacent memory addresses on overflow?
23:52:59 <ais523> (I expect the in-memory version to be microcoded and extremely slow, the version that works on a register might be fast though)
23:54:46 <ais523> I looked it up, the in-memory instruction is slow but not as slow as I thought, it's more like 10 times slower than a normal instruction than the 100 times I was expecting
23:55:49 <ais523> and this is true on both recent Intel and recent AMD implementations of x86-64
23:58:20 <b_jonas> ais523: yes, but those are just a few specific instructions
23:59:36 <ais523> supporting bit-addressing for arbitrary instructions seems like a bad idea, given that stricter alignment requirements are generally helpful for performance and bit-addressing is the opposite of that
23:59:52 <ais523> I can understand bit-addressing when accessing single bits, but that's what the x86 instructions do