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00:59:58 <Sgeo> I can attempt to fact-check some of that PL/I stuff.
01:06:46 <Sgeo> I'm testing on PL/I OPTIMIZER V1 R5.1, which is available on pubvm.org. I'm not sure if there's a public domain PL/I in VM/370
01:15:48 <Sgeo> https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/69297a0f0084b2e65aea29231a25a1b0 got a compile-time error when I tried to "multiply a character string by a bit string and assign the result to a float decimal."
01:15:59 <Sgeo> Well, actually I think it's a compile-time warning
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01:54:35 <Sgeo> "Overlay three different types of variable on the same
01:54:35 <Sgeo> memory location? Anything you say!" C allows the same
01:54:57 <Sgeo> Which I guess can be considered more a criticism of C than an acceptable excuse for PL/I
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02:16:11 <Sgeo> VM/370 CE has PL/I (F) installed
02:27:37 <Sgeo> SEVERE ERRORS.
02:27:37 <Sgeo> IEM1802I 5 AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED WHEN CONVERTING THE CONSTANT 'HI' TO
02:27:37 <Sgeo> FIXED BINARY. THE ERROR WAS
02:27:37 <Sgeo> DETECTED IN STATEMENT NUMBER 5 BUT CHECK ALL SIMILAR USES
02:27:37 <Sgeo> OF THIS CONSTANT.
02:30:42 <Sgeo> Execution begins...
02:30:42 <Sgeo> IHE604I ERROR IN CONVERSION FROM CHARACTER STRING TO ARITHMETIC IN STATEMENT 000
02:30:42 <Sgeo> 07 AT OFFSET +00096 FROM ENTRY POINT FOR
02:31:46 <Sgeo> zzo38, I'm having trouble reproducing one of the claims about PL/I
02:33:55 <zzo38> What claim are you trying to reproduce?
02:34:38 <Sgeo> "You can multiply a character string by a bit string and assign the result to a float decimal."
02:35:31 <zzo38> Maybe that is wrong (in which case it should be removed), but I remember reading that somewhere.
02:39:00 <Sgeo> https://www.microfocus.com/documentation/openpli/80/pfdtcv.htm ok, so I think it works if the character string contains a valid number
02:40:49 <Sgeo> Hmm. PL/I (F) seems fine with it, PL/I optimizing less so
02:41:54 <Sgeo> The statement is from https://www.bgreco.net/fortune.txt
02:42:01 <zzo38> I also had my own ideas of a programming language that is meant to be used like C is used. This is because of various things I considered not as good in C, although some of the features are also unusuah (and possibly the standard .o format won't work but I don't know for sure; it should still be possible to include .o files in the linking though, so that you can link it with C codes)
02:43:57 <Sgeo> Then again I can't even get hello world running in PL/I F
02:44:36 <zzo38> Why the PC character set does not have a unequal sign even though it does have other signs such as greater or equal sign and less or equal sign?
02:51:38 <Sgeo> HI THERE! RESULT: 0.00000E+00
02:51:57 <Sgeo> multiply a character string by a bit string and assign the result to a float decimal."
02:52:08 <Sgeo> BITSTRING = '101'B;
02:52:08 <Sgeo> RESULT = CHARS * BITSTRING;
02:52:08 <Sgeo> PUT LIST(' RESULT: ', RESULT);
02:54:36 <zzo38> I do not remember if I have seen a bit string type in anything else other than ASN.1, although I think I might have done but do not remember. It is a useful type for some things.
02:58:15 <Sgeo> PL/I does let you specify how many digits a variable has and where the decimal point is
02:58:18 <Sgeo> Does that count as unusual?
03:00:03 <zzo38> I think it might be, since many programming languages don't work like that. If not sure, it might be worth to add anyways
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03:05:40 <esolangs> [[User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=180746&oldid=180745 * Sgeo * (+664) Rexx stuff
04:39:58 <esolangs> [[RPN]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=180747 * TheCatFromGithub * (+37) common abbr.
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04:48:22 <Sgeo> I /think/ the mention of SQL statements anywhere in PL/I might be with use of some other preprocessor first, and not a property of PL/I itself.
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23:31:29 <Sgeo> In the following sections, the real
23:31:29 <Sgeo> arithmetic data types discussed are decimal
23:31:29 <Sgeo> fixed-point, sterling fixed--point, binary
23:31:29 <Sgeo> fixed-point, decimal floating-point, and
23:31:29 <Sgeo> binary floating-point"
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23:56:41 <zzo38> Why does the QuickBasic IDE move the mouse cursor to the middle of the screen if you type END in the immediate window?