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00:12:32 <Phantom__Hoover> kmc, is it still hurricane
00:15:25 <kmc> perhaps
00:16:47 <kmc> the actual hurricane is in new jersey or something
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00:26:47 <zzo38> I have failed to even find FPGA-on-FPGA source codes
00:32:51 <zzo38> Unicode is too complicated just use the character set you need
00:36:12 <kmc> no now it's a post-tropical cyclone
00:36:33 <elliott> postatropalyctic
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01:40:54 <kmc> i like loops where the last statement is "continue"
01:42:47 <zzo38> What is best one time programmable FPGA?
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03:24:05 <coppro> sweet mother of
03:24:05 <coppro> http://hint.fm/wind/
03:27:35 <pikhq> My body acheth. It shouldn't, but it doth
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05:41:04 <elliott> does anyone know anything about adom
05:41:12 <Bike> it's hard
05:42:00 <elliott> i hear it isn't
05:42:10 <elliott> although that was from mikee so it might well be very hard in reality
05:47:16 <shachaf> elliott: means "red"
05:48:08 <pikhq> elliott means "red"
05:48:18 <monqy> elliot means "red"
05:48:55 <pikhq> 赤い means "elliott"
05:52:44 <zzo38> Is LLVM compatible with ARMv2a?
05:52:58 <shachaf> monqy: what does you mean
05:53:07 <monqy>
05:53:11 <shachaf>
05:54:29 <pikhq> suhê-su
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08:08:14 <AnotherTest> Hello
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09:13:58 <atriq> AnotherTest, your requirements for your list exclude brainfuck
09:14:24 <AnotherTest> How so?
09:14:37 <atriq> "The language may not be convertible to another language by replacing lexemes from one language with lexemes from the other language. Note, this applies only when there is a "one by one" replacement."
09:15:00 <AnotherTest> and the other language is?
09:15:08 <atriq> brainfuck is convertible to Ook! by one-to-one replacement
09:15:16 <atriq> For example
09:15:17 <AnotherTest> Ook! is convertible to brainfuck
09:15:26 <atriq> And brainfuck is convertible to Ook!
09:15:31 <atriq> They're isomorphic
09:15:32 <AnotherTest> Yes but brainfuck was first
09:15:37 <atriq> ...
09:15:41 <atriq> P'' was the first
09:15:57 <atriq> But that was a computational model for computer science theory purposes, not an esolang
09:15:58 <AnotherTest> You can't convert P'' to brainfuck by one-by-one replacements
09:16:04 <atriq> True
09:16:09 <atriq> False
09:16:10 <atriq> False
09:16:32 <atriq> You can't convert brainfuck to P'' by one-by-one replacements
09:16:35 <atriq> You CAN convert P'' to brainfuck
09:17:37 <fizzie> What is this "list"?
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09:18:51 <AnotherTest> atriq: You're right, I've modified it
09:19:14 <atriq> http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:AnotherTest/Notable_Languages
09:19:15 <atriq> fizzie, ^^^
09:19:21 <fizzie> The not-able languages.
09:19:37 <AnotherTest> :(
09:20:55 <fizzie> Sorry, I guess I should've said "differently abled".
09:22:04 <AnotherTest> I'm not-able to find where I can change the maximum amount of errors displayed in code::blocks
09:23:41 <AnotherTest> aha I found it
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09:49:34 <atriq> Can someone recommend me a tutorial of Nethack so I can get good enough to enjoy it?
09:50:31 <shachaf> apt-get source nethack
09:50:40 <shachaf> You don't need to be good to enjoy it.
09:50:55 <atriq> Yes, but I'm awful
09:51:19 <shachaf> I know, but what does that have to do with NetHack?
09:51:23 <atriq> I'm "You've just eaten poisoned food and died. You killed nothing, prayed for nothing, found nothing, whatever nothing"
09:51:31 <atriq> level awful
09:51:32 <atriq> :P
09:51:47 <shachaf> OK, well, step 1 is to learn from your mistakes.
09:52:13 <shachaf> Now you know not to eat poisoned food, and not to pray at the wrong time.
09:52:55 <atriq> I appear to have just made a dwarven archeologist
09:53:03 <shachaf> If you want to find out the details of praying and poisoned food, you can look those up.
09:53:09 <shachaf> nethackwiki.com is pretty good.
09:53:14 <shachaf> The spoilers are pretty good.
10:03:06 <atriq> Oh no, I just killed my cat
10:04:31 <shachaf> Not good.
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10:08:39 <atriq> BrainCurses isn't a brainfuck derivative at all
10:09:42 <atriq> It's an esoteric single-character-per-instruction language with while loops
10:09:44 <atriq> But that's it
10:10:59 <fizzie> "BrainCurses is an ncurses-based clone of the Mastermind game." Yes, that indeed doesn't sound like a brainfuck derivative.
10:14:00 <atriq> Help, I've found a fountain
10:14:09 <atriq> Should I drink from it
10:15:11 <shachaf> atriq: No.
10:15:22 <shachaf> atriq: That's lesson #1 of being good at NetHack: Don't drink form fountains.
10:16:05 <FreeFull> I don't think I've gotten lower than 5/6
10:16:15 <fizzie> Go team S.
10:17:02 <fizzie> (http://alt.org/nethack/topdeaths.html #4 "killed by a water moccasin".)
10:17:39 <shachaf> go team fizzie
10:18:00 <fizzie> I like the death list.
10:18:02 <fizzie> "killed by a little dog called NOT FOOD, while helpless"
10:18:37 <fizzie> "killed by a leocrotta called HOOOOLY SHIT I'M GONNA DIE!"
10:20:01 <fizzie> Also I like how this GMM-Bayes toolbox prints the log-likelihood diff with %f instead of %g.
10:20:04 <fizzie> log-likelihood diff 179769313486231570814527423731704356798070567525844996598917476803157260780028538760589558632766878171540458953514382464234321326889464182768467546703537516986049910576551282076245490090389328944075868508455133942304583236903222948165808559332123348274797826204144723168738177180919299881250404026184124858368 on round 1
10:20:14 <fizzie> That's a large difference indeed.
10:20:23 <FreeFull> WTF
10:20:32 <FreeFull> Why is everything getting automatically picked up
10:21:57 <FreeFull> I'm fine with money getting autopickedup, but not everything else
10:22:34 <fizzie> Perhaps you've smungled your pickup_types.
10:23:02 <fizzie> This toolbox is the bestest.
10:23:04 <fizzie> log-likelihood diff -Inf on round 2
10:23:04 <fizzie> ??? Error using ==> gmmb_em at 161
10:23:04 <fizzie> Probabilities are no longer finite.
10:24:50 <FreeFull> I haven't changed any settings
10:25:33 <FreeFull> Do samurais pick up more stuff automatically or something
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10:27:43 <FreeFull> fizzie: pickup_types was set to all for some reason. I never set it to that
10:28:24 <atriq> Wow, cool, I can dig
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10:29:50 <FreeFull> Dog!
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10:31:45 <atriq> Aaah what's a grid bug
10:32:02 <FreeFull> Probably a joke
10:32:27 <FreeFull> How do I take my dog downstairs? D:
10:32:35 <FreeFull> Ah, there
10:32:54 <fizzie> A whistle can be helpful for pet management.
10:33:29 <FreeFull> Pro-tip: Only eat fresh corpses
10:34:17 <fizzie> Helpful rules for corpse-eaters: 1) Learn to recognize poisonous/harmful corpses! 2) Only eat corpses that you recognize.
10:34:27 <fizzie> (I was told these in context of poisonous mushrooms.)
10:34:52 <atriq> I found a ring
10:34:54 <FreeFull> A lichen isn't ever going to be poisonous, is it?
10:35:01 <atriq> Should I wear it?
10:35:30 <fizzie> atriq: If you've verified it's not cursed, you could wear it for a moment to see if you can identify it.
10:37:52 <FreeFull> Fuu
10:37:57 <FreeFull> Hungry and nothing to eat
10:38:29 <FreeFull> And my dog is gone somewhere
10:38:39 <fizzie> Were you going to EAT it?
10:38:53 <atriq> How do I verify if something isn't cursed?
10:39:08 <atriq> I found it next to a gravestone
10:39:31 <fizzie> atriq: Then it's quite likely to be cursed, I believe.
10:39:32 <FreeFull> fizzie: No
10:40:00 <FreeFull> Damn, weak and stunned
10:40:01 <Lumpio-> put it on, put it on
10:40:03 <fizzie> atriq: Anyway, I don't suppose you've seen an altar yet? Those are the easiest way to test for cursedness.
10:40:04 <Lumpio-> (Or eat it)
10:40:08 <atriq> Okay
10:40:21 <atriq> Hey, I'm level 4
10:40:27 <FreeFull> Stunned in a 3x3 room with a pit
10:40:37 <fizzie> atriq: Pets can be used for it too, but it's slightly fiddly.
10:40:45 <atriq> I... killed my cat
10:40:57 <fizzie> Well, then that's a no-go too.
10:41:18 <atriq> There's a fountain and a golden potion
10:41:18 <FreeFull> Died
10:41:20 <atriq> Advice?
10:42:55 <atriq> Help a friendly nome
10:43:12 <fizzie> I generally just carry most unidentified junk with me (or make piles) until reaching the minetown altar for definite blessed/uncursed/cursed-testing, but I'm not exactly a real nethakker.
10:43:22 <fizzie> Wands you can try engrave-identifying, though.
10:45:27 <fizzie> If you don't want to stay alive, though, you can certainly get things done faster by trying everything out.
10:48:19 <fizzie> (And anyway, quaffing from the fountain nets you a wish in about 0.43% of the cases, assuming DL5 and nonnegative luck.)
10:49:40 <atriq> I've found a fortune cookie?
10:49:57 <fizzie> They're good eating.
10:50:03 <fizzie> Not much nutrition, though.
10:51:08 <fizzie> You can try taming domesticated animals with it too, if you want a new cat.
10:51:39 <atriq> I've found a statue of a dog
10:51:43 <atriq> I have no idea what I'm doing
10:52:07 <Lumpio-> zap it with a wand, see if it turns alive
10:52:17 <Lumpio-> Maybe you can get a new pet
10:52:33 <fizzie> You could turn it back to a dog if you knew stone to flesh.
10:52:40 <fizzie> Is there even a wand for that?
10:56:47 <fizzie> Why is this (a*b)/(a+b), with a, b >= 0, -0.006 at one point.
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11:02:13 <Arc_Koen> what do you mean "it's not a brainfuck derivative"
11:02:27 <Arc_Koen> it's only means to do arithmetic are to increment or decrement the current cell
11:25:41 <FreeFull> fizzie: Are you sure a and b are actually both greater than 0
11:28:20 <fizzie> FreeFull: Yes, but there was a +c that I had forgotten.
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11:46:25 <benuphoenix> Even though Sgeo is without power, he is safe and [most likely] unharmed.
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11:47:50 <Jafet> http://pbfcomics.com/202/
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12:06:58 <fizzie> That statement should've come with a confidence interval.
12:07:06 <fizzie> "Most likely" is so inaccurate.
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15:19:17 <Arc_Koen> soooo
15:19:29 <Arc_Koen> they already know this palpatine guy has an army of darth vader clones
15:19:59 <Arc_Koen> and now they discover he's in possession of asgardish technology that would allow him to teleport his troops to earth
15:20:28 <Arc_Koen> but "they caught his first lieutenant", so everything is well that ends well and we can go back to sleep reassured
15:23:46 <Arc_Koen> ohhhhh first lines of next episode are epic
15:24:00 <Arc_Koen> "you didn't have your coffee this morning, or what?"
15:24:11 <Arc_Koen> "selmak doesn't like coffee"
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16:32:20 <elliott> AnotherTest: um if you are going to remove a language from the language list for being a joke language then add it to the joke language list...
16:32:53 <AnotherTest> elliott: okay
16:34:33 <elliott> 09:49:34: <atriq> Can someone recommend me a tutorial of Nethack so I can get good enough to enjoy it?
16:34:52 <elliott> @tell atriq nethack doesn't really get more enjoyable the better you are at it
16:34:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:34:56 <elliott> @tell atriq nethack doesn't really get more enjoyable
16:34:56 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:35:07 <Jafet> nethack isn't really enjoyable
16:36:18 <elliott> exactly
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16:46:50 <elliott> @tell atriq (you might want to consider starting with a more accessible roguelike, e.g. brogue)
16:46:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:47:00 <elliott> @tell atriq (which is excellent by the way)
16:47:02 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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17:41:22 <nortti> wow. http://mina.naguib.ca/blog/2012/10/22/the-little-ssh-that-sometimes-couldnt.html
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19:35:06 <Vorpal> hi
19:35:11 <Vorpal> btw... I do not understand subscriptions on youtube... The front page is completely inaccurate. My RSS reader that I used for this since youtube fails so badly is correct but about 1-2 days delayed (varies between channels).
19:35:26 <Vorpal> what a mess
19:35:59 <Vorpal> I'm probably going to have to write a script to screen scrape the channels or something...
19:42:13 <olsner> nortti: what happens if you send a letter to the moomins?
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19:53:56 <olsner> moomin appears to come from the finnish muumi, but they were originally written in swedish where "mumin" would have a differently pronounced 'u'
19:54:21 <olsner> hmm, unless it's supposed to be read in finland swedish
19:54:58 <pikhq> *grin* "muumi" has a perfectly reasonable Japanese interpretation
19:55:39 <pikhq> "No ocean". Clearly the Finns are Japanese speakers who like Led Zeppelin.
19:55:52 <pikhq> Wait, derp
19:55:54 <pikhq> No such song
19:56:03 <pikhq> I merged the song titles of two adjacent ones on an album
19:56:05 <pikhq> I need more coffee
19:56:27 <pikhq> "No Quarter" + "The Ocean" = "No Ocean" apparently in my head
19:56:58 <olsner> hmm, wouldn't that be muümi with two adjacent short us rather than a long u?
19:58:08 <olsner> (except for the fact that I've never seen diaereses used like that in romanised japanese)
19:58:13 <olsner> mu'umi?
19:58:55 <pikhq> In typical romanized Japanese the ' would be devoid of meaning.
19:59:10 <pikhq> In mine that'd be a sokuon, and in that context would be interpreted as a glottal stop, if anything.
19:59:23 <pikhq> "mu umi" is how you'd write it if you wanted to indicate it's two separate short u's.
19:59:47 <pikhq> But, Japanese doesn't make much of a distinction between adjacent short vowels and a single long vowel.
20:01:40 <Vorpal> <olsner> hmm, unless it's supposed to be read in finland swedish <-- that does not appear entirely unlikely
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20:20:26 <elliott> shachaf: how do you format record type definitions in haskell
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21:00:58 <kmc> disney bought the rights to Star Wars and is 'making a seventh movie in the "Star Wars" series called "Episode 7," set for release in 2015, with plans to follow it with Episodes 8 and 9 and then one new movie every two or three years.'
21:03:43 <olsner> ooh, hope it has lots of ewoks
21:05:40 <kmc> special musical appearance by Hannah Montana
21:08:45 <elliott> `quote montana
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21:46:06 <Phantom_Hoover> kmc, so that's a joke righ
21:46:08 <Phantom_Hoover> *t
21:48:27 <elliott> well it's all over various semi-reputable news sites on the web
21:48:45 <elliott> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/oct/30/disney-lucasfilm-star-wars-deal
21:48:47 <elliott> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-disney-lucasfilm-20121030,0,3821750.story
21:49:05 <Phantom_Hoover> are you fucking kidding me
21:49:17 <Phantom_Hoover> hmm i guess on the bright side lucas doesn't control it any more
21:49:38 <elliott> real headline is George Lucas Gets Last Laugh
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23:32:34 <shachaf> elliott: spaces-tabs-spaces for indentation
23:32:37 <shachaf> "hth"
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23:56:27 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: yo
23:56:29 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: are u there
23:57:52 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: wake up
23:59:46 <Phantom_Hoover> asdl;fjk
23:59:48 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
23:59:49 <Phantom_Hoover> what
23:59:51 <Phantom_Hoover> snooze
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