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00:02:22 <oerjan> the one i got right above hth
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00:04:04 <oerjan> maybe gamemanj just observed it happening. in a quantum way.
00:19:36 <oerjan> <izabera> i think you're just proving how drunk you are <-- looks plausible
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00:23:06 <boily> testostelloren!
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00:24:28 <boily> d20
00:24:28 <lambdabot> boily: 8
00:24:44 * boily gets swatten
00:24:46 <boily> d20
00:24:46 <lambdabot> boily: 6
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00:25:15 <oerjan> sounds about right
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00:34:23 <oerjan> <orin> apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp <-- well yeah, except the parentheses aren't always necessary.
00:35:04 <oerjan> > map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4]
00:35:06 <lambdabot> Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’
00:35:06 <lambdabot> It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’,
00:35:06 <lambdabot> imported from ‘Data.List’ at /tmp/mueval2145174...
00:35:13 <oerjan> wat
00:35:16 <oerjan> :t map
00:35:17 <lambdabot> Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’
00:35:17 <lambdabot> It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’,
00:35:17 <lambdabot> imported from ‘Data.List’ at /home/lambda/.lambdabot/State/L.hs:99:1-16
00:35:28 <oerjan> @undef
00:35:28 <lambdabot> Undefined.
00:35:31 <oerjan> > map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4]
00:35:32 <lambdabot> [0.8414709848078965,0.9092974268256817,-0.9899924966004454,-0.6536436208636119]
00:36:58 <orin> `quote \oren\
00:36:59 <HackEgo> grep: \ at end of pattern
00:37:08 <orin> `quote '\oren\'
00:37:08 <HackEgo> No output.
00:37:13 <orin> `` quote '\oren\'
00:37:14 <HackEgo> grep: \ at end of pattern
00:37:27 <orin> `quote \\oren\
00:37:27 <HackEgo> grep: \ at end of pattern
00:37:29 <orin> `quote \\oren\\
00:37:30 <HackEgo> 1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar
00:38:22 <hppavilion[1]> Damn, I wish I knew the context for that
00:38:31 <hppavilion[1]> Probably KSP
00:38:47 <orin> `quote 1262
00:38:48 <HackEgo> 1262) <\oren\> scientists can apparently research things even while rotating 30 times a minute
00:38:54 <orin> yeah
00:39:39 <oerjan> pretty sure 1261 and 1262 are KSP
00:39:49 <oerjan> i seem to recall the original
00:44:11 <orin> `` quote '\\oren\\' | sed -e 's/).*//'
00:44:12 <HackEgo> 1257 \ 1260 \ 1261 \ 1262 \ 1266
00:44:25 <orin> `quote 1266
00:44:25 <HackEgo> 1266) <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished
00:45:13 <orin> `` quote 'hppavilion' | sed -e 's/).*//'
00:45:14 <HackEgo> 1242 \ 1253 \ 1254 \ 1260
00:45:22 <orin> `` quote '\\oren\\'
00:45:23 <HackEgo> 1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar
00:45:28 <orin> `` quote 'hppavilion'
00:45:29 <HackEgo> 1242) <ais523> hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context <ais523> because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1253) <shachaf> What is an esolang? <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1254) <h
00:45:48 <boily> `? orin
00:45:50 <HackEgo> orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line.
00:46:22 <orin> `quote 1253
00:46:22 <HackEgo> 1253) <shachaf> What is an esolang? <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang
00:46:32 <orin> `quote 1254
00:46:33 <HackEgo> 1254) <hppavilion[1]> izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. <hppavilion[1]> Except It only prints "<N> BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks.
00:46:47 <boily> `pastequotes
00:46:51 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.32496
00:46:52 <orin> `quote 1260
00:46:53 <HackEgo> 1260) <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane
00:46:54 <myname> what's the joke on 1253?
00:47:10 <boily> wait. we have a kenm quote?
00:47:14 <hppavilion[1]> myname: ...capitalization, maybe?
00:47:15 <orin> `quote kenm
00:47:15 <HackEgo> No output.
00:47:26 <nortti> `run cat $(which pastequotes)
00:47:27 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste
00:47:33 <myname> that's not funny
00:47:47 <nortti> `run cat $(which allquotes)
00:47:48 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes
00:48:16 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him!
00:48:44 <orin> `quote tricycle
00:48:45 <HackEgo> 14) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him!
00:49:12 <orin> probably the chrono trigger mode
00:49:42 <hppavilion[1]> `quote 25
00:49:43 <HackEgo> 25) <ehird> pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. <fungebob> ehird: consider low-gravity porn <ehird> fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced.
00:51:18 <tswett> hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure you can really incite an attempted crime.
00:51:33 <tswett> Inciting someone to attempt to commit a crime is inciting them to commit that crime.
00:51:35 <hppavilion[1]> tswett: I think you can
00:51:40 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, true
00:52:05 <hppavilion[1]> tswett: Unless you incite them with the full knowledge that they can't actually accomplish it
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00:52:18 <tswett> Hmm, I think you have a point.
00:52:35 <tswett> That reminds me of a stupid legal scenario I came up with one day.
00:53:46 <hppavilion[1]> I don't want to know quote 42's context
00:53:50 <hppavilion[1]> tswett: Continue
00:54:08 <tswett> It is winter, and there is a pond which is frozen over. The ice on the pond is thin, and any reasonable person would know that the ice is thin and that it would be unacceptably dangerous to walk out onto the ice.
00:55:01 <oerjan> `quote 42
00:55:01 <HackEgo> 42) <GregorR> ??? <GregorR> Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? <GregorR> Or are there monster dildos and cocks? <GregorR> Or are both the dildos and cocks monster?
00:55:04 <tswett> There is a person who unreasonably believes that it would be safe to walk on the ice.
00:55:14 <oerjan> OKAY
00:55:42 <tswett> So the person walks out onto the ice, and the ice breaks, plunging the person into the freezing cold water.
00:56:11 <orin> the context is porbably quote 52
00:56:16 <oerjan> `quote 52
00:56:17 <HackEgo> 52) <oklopol> if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has
00:56:29 <tswett> At this point, the person notices a branch which they had not seen before, which is lying on top of the ice.
00:56:40 <oerjan> orin: hardly. quotes are usually chronological and rarely that close in time.
00:56:53 <hppavilion[1]> OH
00:56:54 <tswett> The person could grab onto the branch and use it to pull themself out of the ice.
00:56:56 <hppavilion[1]> Of course
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00:57:08 <tswett> Meanwhile, you have been standing by the pond and you've witnessed all of this.
00:57:17 <tswett> For no reason, you grab the branch and pull it out of the person's reach.
00:57:25 <orin> well the point is that the context of both those quotes is japanese porn
00:57:32 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, yes, of course
00:57:45 <tswett> The person is thus unable to escape from the ice, and freezes to death.
00:57:58 <tswett> So the question is: have you murdered that person?
00:58:14 <hppavilion[1]> Yes
00:58:16 <hppavilion[1]> Definitely
00:58:30 <oerjan> definitely.
00:58:53 <hppavilion[1]> Barring extenuating circumstances, such as you pulling the branch out of their reach into the reach of someone else
00:59:09 <hppavilion[1]> I don't think this even constitutes manslaughter
00:59:24 <hppavilion[1]> Just second-degree (unmeditated) murder
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01:00:48 <hppavilion[1]> @tell ais523 I am completely mystified. You have succeeded.
01:00:48 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:01:17 <tswett> What if you're out gathering firewood, and that branch is the only viable firewood in sight?
01:01:42 <tswett> And you're really hungry and you want to just get some firewood already so you can go home and eat as soon as possible?
01:02:56 <oerjan> that somehow reminds me of that shipwreck cannibalism case i saw on wikipedia.
01:03:34 <oerjan> where the conclusion was basically, that killing someone is murder even if it will prevent everyone else from starving to death.
01:03:44 <oerjan> (by english law iirc)
01:04:58 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens
01:05:03 <boily> are there quotes that refer to future quotes?
01:05:31 <oerjan> boily: there may be quotes added out of order, but i don't recall anything like that.
01:06:38 <oerjan> or, as the article says, "necessity is not a defence to a charge of murder".
01:06:47 <hppavilion[1]> `quote 105
01:06:48 <HackEgo> 105) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well
01:06:53 <hppavilion[1]> What the fucking fuck does that mean?
01:07:09 <oerjan> which is pretty relevant to tswett's original question.
01:07:13 <boily> hppavellon[1]. you never met oklopol, didn't you?
01:07:35 <oerjan> a clear case of oklopol, that.
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01:07:45 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I think I was online with em once
01:08:12 <oerjan> he may have met one of his rare recent alternate nick visits.
01:09:34 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Quick, say something that references a future quote
01:10:16 <oerjan> `quote time
01:10:16 <HackEgo> 33) <mycroftiv> [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective \ 59) <oklofok> i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 86) <oerjan> insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 109) <fungot>
01:10:36 <oerjan> `quote time[^s]
01:10:37 <HackEgo> 86) <oerjan> insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 145) <zzo38> catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 246) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) <nyuszika7h> Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O <Gregor> A small bene
01:11:11 <oerjan> `quote time travel
01:11:12 <HackEgo> 863) <Bike> i don't even know anything about feather and i'm getting sick of the time travel jokes \ 894) <ais523> you can define Feather as "Smalltalk done right" if you want to confuse people into wondering why that would involve time travel stuff and all that
01:11:44 <boily> hppavilion[1]: best way to delinearize time is to invoke fungot.
01:11:44 <fungot> boily: gauche is obviously broken then. you're the artist, or you could catch the exception
01:12:28 <boily> can fungot invoke me?
01:12:29 <fungot> boily: i didn't imply ' bitwise' from ' /usr/ ports/ net/ openbsd, bsd/ os, look at the metadata and use it pervasively throughout the curricula, but also blurred vision
01:12:44 <boily> fungot: no, my vision's perfectly fine hth
01:12:45 <fungot> boily: got new mail: http://lists.r6rs.org/ pipermail/ python-list/ 2003-october/ 186473.html google search
01:12:47 <hppavilion[1]> How much must one use IRC before they start dreaming in terminal...
01:13:19 <hppavilion[1]> boily: It appears the answer is yes
01:13:37 <boily> hppavilion[1]: no, I still have perfectly clear vision hthth
01:13:40 <moon_> <hbot> 3.141592652582646125206037179644022371557877983160126149695135327918621058849781011234089 2609570395550671346460285442982415593446
01:13:46 <moon_> it has a good approximation
01:14:53 <hppavilion[1]> `quote 118
01:14:53 <HackEgo> 118) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? <cpressey> Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime
01:15:03 <hppavilion[1]> ^^^ Relevant to what I've been thinking
01:16:16 <hppavilion[1]> `quote 122
01:16:17 <HackEgo> 122) <fungot> pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?"
01:16:22 <hppavilion[1]> What mode was that!?
01:16:26 <hppavilion[1]> ^mode
01:16:43 <hppavilion[1]> ^help
01:16:43 <fungot> ^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
01:16:50 <hppavilion[1]> ^style
01:16:50 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
01:17:02 <hppavilion[1]> ^style speeches
01:17:02 <fungot> Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg)
01:17:09 <hppavilion[1]> ^style oots
01:17:09 <fungot> Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick)
01:17:18 <hppavilion[1]> ^style fisher
01:17:18 <fungot> Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations)
01:17:22 <hppavilion[1]> Oooh
01:17:26 <hppavilion[1]> fungot: Ahoy
01:17:26 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: yes i'm like every time a plane would fly over we have a computer
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01:19:54 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: i'm guessing ct, it's an old style that looks like that.
01:20:11 <hppavilion[1]> ^style ct
01:20:12 <fungot> Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script)
01:20:15 <hppavilion[1]> Interesting
01:20:21 <hppavilion[1]> fungot: beep
01:20:21 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: but, we are far outnumbered! me saw! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away!
01:20:30 <oerjan> although usually with more exclamation points than question marks
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01:20:41 <boily> speaking of ct, I had my first scan ever happen to me the other week. too bad I forgot about asking if I could keep a copy of the data :/
01:20:57 <hppavilion[1]> boily: scan?
01:21:20 <oerjan> . o O ( he had to have his head examined )
01:21:31 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, CAT
01:22:35 <oerjan> fungot: how's the sword stopping going?
01:22:36 <fungot> oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now...
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01:23:55 <oerjan> boily: hope it's not too serious
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01:26:02 <boily> oerjan: just had recurring headaches and dizziness. they scanned me just to make sure there was nothing wrong (there's effectively nothing), and prescribed me enough tylenols for the next three generations.
01:26:19 <oerjan> eep
01:26:40 <moon_> ouch
01:27:34 <boily> nothing to be worried about. eat more proteins, drink water, acetaminophen and wait a month.
01:31:05 <boily> uhm, just to be sure, no hypochondriacs in these here fine chännel, eh?
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02:00:24 <oerjan> boily: i'm sure my chondriac is very hypo, i think i can feel it aching hth
02:00:35 <orin> Using my new, better method, I made a polling average of the election
02:00:46 <orin> http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.htm
02:01:55 <orin> http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.c.htm
02:01:59 <orin> http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.txt.htm
02:08:23 <oerjan> @tell gamemanj <gamemanj> also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously <-- your point twh?
02:08:23 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:08:56 <oerjan> boily: finally i got to the explanatory part of the logs.
02:11:48 <oerjan> @tell gamemanj <gamemanj> then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" <-- i think that's overthinking it hth
02:11:48 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:13:07 <boily> I am not a mad scientist, I'm only impersonating one. I am sane.
02:13:45 <boily> (when doing debug stuff with our PDF generation code, I have a nice logo for "Evil Mad Dentist Laboratory" to put in the headers.)
02:13:56 <oerjan> @tell int-e <int-e> the u/w is a bit too subtle. <-- you can still use wisdom/ although we might yell at you hth
02:13:56 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:15:02 <oerjan> boily: is that a backronym of the actual one twh
02:16:56 <boily> no, I don't retracronymify initialisms hth
02:18:52 <oerjan> backronyms of initialisms lack yoghurt
02:19:01 <oerjan> (my mind drew a blank there)
02:19:33 <moon_> hi oerjan
02:19:41 <boily> I like yoghurt. a great dollop of it on your cereals in the morning is the best.
02:19:41 <oerjan> hi' moon
02:19:48 <moon_> helloily
02:21:12 <boily> mhelloon_
02:23:44 <oerjan> @tell gamemanj <gamemanj> it's for groups of groups <-- now you're overthinking in the wrong direction hth
02:23:44 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:34:10 <boily> 'night all!
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03:09:18 <orin> what happened on july 24
03:09:56 <orin> ah, the DNC
03:10:05 <orin> that makes sense
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03:35:54 <pikhq> There was also a *lot* of instances of Trump being a public idiot starting about then.
03:52:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Kiwitrader * New user account
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03:59:16 <moon_> ded
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03:59:22 <moon_> channel is ded
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04:01:24 <moon_> channel is VERY dead
04:03:07 <oerjan> very faux spammer nickname on that one
04:03:28 <oerjan> also, BRAINS
04:03:51 * moon_ hides the bodys
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04:36:27 <hppavilion[1]> Huh
04:37:04 <hppavilion[1]> Apparently Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game
04:37:07 <hppavilion[1]> Who knew?
04:37:28 <hppavilion[1]> . o O (I want my wikiname to be ~~~~...)
04:37:51 <orin> pikhq: that explians why trump wnt down as well as clinton going up
04:38:26 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: it's just the HackEgo link not doing the expansion for some reason.
04:38:36 <zgrep> Huh. Thought bubble notation has crept its way into here. Or did it come from here.
04:38:59 <orin> . o O (I first saw it here)
04:39:46 <oerjan> . o O ( you people are missing spaces )
04:39:46 <hppavilion[1]> orin: He criticized a Gold Star family
04:39:52 <hppavilion[1]> crap
04:39:57 <hppavilion[1]> HARUKIRI
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04:41:40 <orin> hppavilion[1]: ITYM harakiri
04:42:01 <hppavilion[1]> orin: It's japanese. Spelling is fungible.
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04:43:06 <orin> 腹切り
04:43:42 <pikhq> hppavilion[1]: "Harukiri" would be "cutting spring".
04:43:50 <pikhq> Spelling is important.
04:44:06 <orin> 春切り
04:44:09 <hppavilion[1]> Dammit
04:45:03 <pikhq> While "harakiri" is, well, harakiri. Or seppuku. (腹切り, 切腹)
04:45:54 <orin> gut cutting
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04:46:31 <oerjan> google chose a weird reading of 腹切り, i thought orin was making a pun on fungible.
04:46:54 <oerjan> or something.
04:50:52 <quintopia> so apparently its been a busy night here?
04:51:08 <quintopia> anything worth scrolling up for?
04:58:53 <quintopia> just a brief attempt to reimplement the voight-kampff test disguised as an ethical question
05:06:53 <oerjan> hey, i linked to relevant precedent tsh
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05:15:10 <shachaf> `? tsh
05:15:12 <HackEgo> tsh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:15:35 <shachaf> `learn tsh seems helpful
05:15:39 <HackEgo> Learned 'tsh': tsh seems helpful
05:15:55 <orin> that should help
05:16:02 <shachaf> i know hth
05:16:18 <oerjan> in the words of Jim from Darths & Droids: ooh, that's even better!
05:16:23 <shachaf> `sedlast selpqurtq
05:16:25 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command \ wisdom/tsh//tsh seems helpful
05:16:37 <shachaf> `sedlast sqelpqurtq
05:16:39 <HackEgo> wisdom/tsh//tsh seems hurtful
05:16:41 <oerjan> :/
05:16:44 <oerjan> LIES
05:17:06 <shachaf> I should finish reading D&D
05:17:43 <shachaf> `sedlast sqeemsqoundsq
05:17:46 <HackEgo> wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds hurtful
05:18:29 <oerjan> `sedlast skur.*korrendousk
05:18:31 <HackEgo> wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds horrendous
05:19:23 <orin> um... why are you speaking alien to hackego, and why does he seem to understand you?
05:19:45 <shachaf> oerjan is an alien hth
05:20:13 <shachaf> `? hhgttg
05:20:14 <HackEgo> hhgttg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:21:07 <oerjan> orin: skkntrisqastvsk hth
05:21:08 <shachaf> or is it thhgttg
05:21:27 <oerjan> `? h2g2
05:21:28 <HackEgo> h2g2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:21:43 <oerjan> shockingly, we may not have a wisdom for it?
05:21:52 <shachaf> shocking
05:23:29 <oerjan> also, it's ais523 who is an alien, i thought that was well established.
05:23:59 <shachaf> only one alien?
05:25:33 <oerjan> yep. the rest are zombies, artificial intelligences, disembodied ghosts on the internet or mutant carnivorous plants hth
05:25:54 <oerjan> there may also be one dog, but we're not sure of it.
05:26:17 <shachaf> pooch?
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06:36:49 <hppavilion[1]> "Blood is thicker than water, but have you /seen/ oil!?"
06:37:18 <izabera> and have you seen concrete?
06:39:43 <oerjan> have you seen neutronium?
06:39:50 <izabera> nope
06:40:06 <oerjan> it's pretty thick hth
06:53:15 <zzo38> Is apostasy is not apostasy?
06:53:44 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: oerjan: Neither of those are liquids
06:53:57 <hppavilion[1]> concrete is a solid and neutronium is a reality-breaker
06:54:01 <hppavilion[1]> Nobody say "glass"
06:54:19 <hppavilion[1]> Or I will remove you lungs
06:54:27 <izabera> welp
06:55:56 <zzo38> Why?
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07:31:37 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: diamond, inside jupiter hth
07:31:52 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: That works
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07:51:16 <hppavilion[1]> Hm...
07:51:26 <hppavilion[1]> I've never seen a superhero with the ability to combine other people
07:52:27 <izabera> why would the do it?
07:56:29 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: Not sure, but I'm sure it would be cool
07:57:00 <hppavilion[1]> Another interesting superpower: Sort of like Astral Projection, but with the added capability to then bring your body to you
08:01:10 <hppavilion[1]> Oooh, Probability manipulation is a fun power
08:12:35 <hppavilion[1]> Some people subscribe to the Fate view, which says that everything that ever happens happens because of some sort of orchestrated cosmic symphony
08:12:56 <hppavilion[1]> It says everything happens for a reason (which is pleasant), but we don't have free will (which makes life hard)
08:13:47 <hppavilion[1]> Other people say that the way the universe goes is up for us to decide, which says that we choose our own paths and those who do well did so because they earned it and a guilty criminal could have /not/ done it, so it's their fault.
08:14:04 <hppavilion[1]> Free will is inspiring... but it also requires that nothing happen for a reason, which makes it sad when bad things happen
08:14:09 <hppavilion[1]> I take the more practical approach
08:15:00 <hppavilion[1]> The human brain is largely random and impossible to predict, but ultimately has no meaningful form of free will because some actions are determinant and others are random, but none are controlled by some glorious, unified higher entity
08:15:15 <hppavilion[1]> Which gives the ultimate view that humans don't have free will AND it's all meaningless
08:15:17 <hppavilion[1]> ...yay?
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17:29:26 <int-e> this CaC VM is getting worse and worse... HackEgo is so lucky in comparison
17:32:28 <izabera> what vm?
17:32:42 <izabera> and what problems are you experiencing?
17:32:50 <izabera> i got one a couple of days ago
17:33:03 <izabera> actually 3
17:33:21 <izabera> and yesterday i couldn't access it and had to reboot from the control panel
17:38:32 <int-e> izabera: it's just getting write errors on the storage device...
17:39:01 <int-e> ...periodically causing the FS to be remounted read-only, sometimes locking the VM up completely
17:40:33 <int-e> (It's one of the 512MB/10GB $35/lifetime VMs.)
17:40:46 <izabera> i got a $70
17:41:01 <izabera> for $21 because discounts
17:41:08 <int-e> I actually deleted the thing and set it up again but it didn't improve... all I got out of it was a changed IP ;)
17:42:17 <izabera> how long have you been using it?
17:42:29 <int-e> yeah I paid $17.50... january 2015
17:43:21 <izabera> actually that doesn't sound too bad
17:43:24 <int-e> anyway, since my attitude was that I'd get it to see how bad it would be I wasn't unduly disappointed
17:43:48 <int-e> but it has been misbehaving for most of that time.
17:43:53 <izabera> most?
17:43:57 <int-e> a year?
17:44:05 <izabera> what happened?
17:44:10 <int-e> what I wrote
17:44:14 <int-e> it's been like that for ages
17:44:19 <izabera> ok
17:44:32 <izabera> what do you use it for?
17:44:42 <izabera> just curious about the type of load etc
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17:45:30 <izabera> i'm currently only using it for weechat in 2 channels but i was planning to move arin.ga over there
17:45:33 <int-e> virtually no load. It has a homepage and mroman's Burlesque shell.
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17:45:52 <izabera> i wish to report a bug
17:45:57 <izabera> the picture is all blurry
17:45:59 <izabera> pls fix
17:46:07 <int-e> izabera: It's a feature.
17:46:13 <izabera> broken by design
17:46:50 <int-e> I worked hard on that picture, for probably an hour in gimp! Don't dis it!!!1
17:47:10 <int-e> (these things always take longer than they should ;-) )
17:47:50 <izabera> what about that burlesque shell?
17:47:58 <izabera> lemme see it
17:48:08 <int-e> @google burlesque shell
17:48:14 <lambdabot> http://yorehab.com/burlesque-shell-seat-purple/
17:48:14 <lambdabot> Title: » Burlesque Shell Seat Purple YoWorld Price Guide and YoWorld Fan Site
17:48:16 <int-e> (just curious)
17:48:19 <int-e> (that's not it)
17:48:46 <int-e> @google brulesque programming language
17:48:52 <lambdabot> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque
17:49:01 <int-e> hmm, close enough.
17:49:38 <int-e> from there you can find http://mroman.ch/burlesque/ which has a link to the shell
17:49:58 <int-e> (and I don't give a direct link because that may change)
17:50:29 <izabera> i was assuming cac gave you an ip?
17:50:45 <int-e> they did
17:51:01 <int-e> and they'll give me another one if I decide to set up the VM from scratch again
17:51:20 <izabera> oh that's what you mean
17:51:24 <izabera> that's fine
17:51:34 <izabera> i thought they changed it without notice
17:51:56 <int-e> that would be interesting, but no, they have not done that yet
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17:54:11 <int-e> oh and I have a Debian system on there... it's just conceivable that it doesn't agree with VMware.
17:54:22 <int-e> But I don't really believe it.
17:55:18 <int-e> I could, perhaps, drop the errors=remount-ro flag from the fstab
17:56:12 <int-e> (just for fun)
18:00:12 <izabera> i got ubuntu and then used this https://github.com/drizzt/vps2arch
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23:11:38 <prooftechnique> My roommate just sent http://imgur.com/KTVaVW1 to me, and I had a flashback to one of those 0 == 1 "proofs"
23:13:14 <gamemanj> Yes, there's quite clearly a five++ in there.
23:14:11 <gamemanj> @tell oerjan Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of.
23:14:11 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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23:15:34 <int-e> gamemanj: maybe you should think on that before making such a bold claim
23:15:45 * int-e is helping!
23:16:00 <gamemanj> int-e: Which bold claim?
23:16:31 <int-e> the one you just told lambdabot to relay to oerjan
23:16:42 <gamemanj> I am. It's what I'm good at.
23:17:52 <int-e> I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of.
23:18:13 <gamemanj> I forget to comment my code. My art... do not ask about my art. My physical strength is pretty low - I can't pull myself up onto a ledge if it's higher than my shoulders (probably if it's higher than my elbows, I need to actually write these things down.) My memory is also lacking, as suggested in that last comment.
23:18:17 <int-e> And of course I'm attracted to the circularity.
23:18:33 <gamemanj> So, tell me, int-e, what am I to be proud of but my overthinking?
23:18:44 <quintopia> prooftechnique: is that js? what even does incrementing an object mean?
23:19:18 <FireFly> the same as setting it to NaN, usually
23:19:23 <gamemanj> quintopia: The "object" is actually Number: 5, and I'm guessing there's implicit conversion.
23:19:25 <quintopia> i guess its a native number object containing the value five?
23:19:26 <prooftechnique> quintopia: It is. It coerces it to an int in that case
23:19:37 <int-e> gamemanj: oh you could start small. there's the remarkable feat of your continued existence
23:19:50 * gamemanj picks up a rock.
23:20:00 <gamemanj> Rock, you should be proud of yourself.
23:20:05 <gamemanj> For your continued existence.
23:20:09 * gamemanj places the rock back down.
23:20:13 <quintopia> oh that makes sense. so five++ means five=five.intValue()+1
23:20:23 <quintopia> this is why pyhton doesnt ++
23:20:26 <prooftechnique> Right
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23:21:48 <quintopia> and then setting properties on it coerces it back into Number?
23:22:03 <quintopia> or no
23:22:12 <quintopia> it just silemtly fails
23:22:16 <quintopia> weird
23:22:16 <prooftechnique> Nope, the coercion is in place
23:22:19 <myname> there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ...
23:22:35 <prooftechnique> So it goes from Number(5) to an int 5
23:22:45 <prooftechnique> Well, int 6, I guess
23:22:57 <quintopia> prooftechnique: i meant setting the wtf of int 6
23:23:05 <prooftechnique> Right, int isn't an object in JS
23:23:12 <quintopia> it doesnt even give an error
23:23:27 <zzo38> There is no integer type in JavaScript, only floating point
23:23:36 <quintopia> zzo38: thx
23:23:43 <quintopia> js is so weird
23:23:46 <prooftechnique> Right, I forgot about that. What a nightmare
23:23:51 <zzo38> But in many cases is treated as an integer, and some implementations may even store them as integers too to increase speed
23:24:43 <zzo38> For example, bitwise operations will treat the numbers as signed 32-bit integers and output a signed 32-bit integer too
23:25:52 <quintopia> prooftechnique: if i ran that code and then did Number(5).wtf would it say potato
23:27:13 <prooftechnique> I'm not sure, actually.
23:28:10 <prooftechnique> I don't think so, though
23:28:51 <quintopia> ok. so each wrapped number gets its own instance?
23:28:55 <prooftechnique> I think that would be equivalent to new Number(5).wtf, so it would give nothing
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23:29:58 <quintopia> some languages intern cache number objects for small integers. java, for instance
23:30:11 <quintopia> to save memory
23:30:47 <quintopia> but then, they are essentially read-only objects if you dont do some tricky reflection
23:31:05 <quintopia> so theres no way to screw them up
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