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00:07:52 <zzo38> I made some program it can display statistics of how common each value is, like a histogram but just displays numbers instead of graphics; I suppose it can be used like a log scale histogram kind of.
00:08:19 <oerjan> boily: do you have a goatee twh
00:08:32 <Zarutian> isnt that called a histogram? even though it is not ploted?
00:08:57 <Zarutian> oh, it is called frequency count I think
00:09:15 <zzo38> Maybe; I don't know.
00:09:21 * oerjan is as usual clean shaven, except not very well and he probably should change his razorblade soon.
00:09:34 <Zarutian> boily: re mahjong: what is that game about?
00:09:37 <zzo38> But, I meant what it might look like.
00:10:00 <zzo38> Zarutian: Mahjong is game with four players, you must make a complete hand to win, somewhat like rummy but not really.
00:10:09 <Zarutian> oerjan: are you using that fractal blade head from Quantum Gillette?
00:10:50 <Zarutian> zzo38: really? using the usual deck of cards or is it more like uno in that it has its own deck of cards?
00:11:10 <zzo38> Zarutian: No, it uses its own tiles
00:11:59 <oerjan> Zarutian: no, just a normal gillette for sensitive skin (although i think they've recently reduced the quality because they used to last for ages)
00:12:35 <Zarutian> oerjan: unplanned planned obsolecense
00:12:37 <zzo38> (Although, my brother invented a way to play it with four usual packs shuffled together with several cards deleted; but normally it uses mahjong tiles. You may have played "mahjong solitaire"; the same tiles are used.)
00:13:21 <Zarutian> zzo38: oh, mahjong solitaire is what I have played but I have never gotten the symbology on the tiles.
00:13:55 <zzo38> For mahjong solitaire, the symbology on the tiles is irrelevant; for mahjong they are important.
00:14:26 <Zarutian> zzo38: some seem to be tied to the usual earth-air-fire-water stuff but other seems more in the direction of plant-growth and such
00:15:06 <zzo38> You may be refering to the flowers/seasons tiles, which are not used in modern Japanese mahjong (which is I think wat boily is playing).
00:15:19 <Zarutian> not that I understand chinese ideograms other then those I look up or the one that looks like an tennis field with oversized net and means middle
00:15:57 <zzo38> Yes it does mean that, although that isn't as important as knowing the numbers and compass directions.
00:16:57 <Zarutian> compass directions? so it is somewhat similiar to bridge (often pronounced "brids")
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00:17:37 <zzo38> The compass directions are used in a similar way, yes. (Although, normally mahjong is played without teams, and the compass is "viewed from the other side".)
00:18:08 <Zarutian> but generally mahjong is an card hand management style of game?
00:18:16 <boily> oerjan: no, a full beard.
00:18:50 <zzo38> Yes, generally
00:19:03 <boily> zzo38: yup, we play riichi.
00:19:15 <zzo38> (If I am understandinghow you mean by "card hand management style of game")
00:19:17 * Zarutian plays board games every week at wednesdays so he is familiar with quite a few game mechanics and setups.
00:19:27 * moonheart08 steals boily's mapole(s) and throws them in lava
00:19:45 <Zarutian> like poker or Dominion and such.
00:21:03 * Zarutian quite likes Zhuro tile placement game of Oriental origin/influence.
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00:21:29 <moonheart08> hi Lord_of_Life, are you new to this channel? :)
00:21:31 * Zarutian bills Lord_of_Life for flood damage
00:24:04 <hppavilion[1]> moonheart08: no hth
00:24:23 <moonheart08> k thanks
00:24:31 <hppavilion[1]> hth™
00:24:32 * boily retrieves his mapoles from the lava pool and *THWACKS* moonheart08 with his enchanted Fire Mapole of +2 Divine Retribution
00:25:04 <moonheart08> what, are your mapoles invincible or something :P
00:25:14 <hppavilion[1]> moonheart08: yes hth
00:25:15 * moonheart08 is on fire
00:25:47 <Zarutian> made from the vertices of tesseracts if I understood their item description correctly
00:25:58 <moonheart08> `? mapole
00:26:00 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
00:27:29 <Zarutian> oh, like the unnerver (translated name) of the Hidden Icelandic military
00:30:26 <Zarutian> it looks like a toygun whose barell is of the size of a coke can. It is reputed to spew high velocity liquid lava whose temperture is so low that anything it touches has frostbite damage. That is before it melts whatever it touched.
00:30:46 <boily> ...
00:30:49 <hppavilion[1]> Damn, why do almost all languages have written names for their letters?
00:30:54 <hppavilion[1]> But not english?
00:30:59 * boily shields himself from Zarutian
00:31:20 <hppavilion[1]> There's no official way to spell out "k" or "z" or "s" or "t" in english
00:31:43 <Zarutian> oh but there is!
00:31:49 <hppavilion[1]> And I'm still waiting on some information on whether I write "a ø" or "an ø"
00:32:15 <Zarutian> kay, zea, e(gg)s and t(wat)
00:32:47 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: In english...?
00:32:48 <boily> a, bé, cé, dé, e...
00:33:05 <hppavilion[1]> I want to do the latter because it's a vowel, but read aloud you say "slashed o", "norwegian o", "scandinavian o", "norwegian o with a line through it", or (colocalquially in my house), "no"
00:33:21 <Zarutian> boily: jeah (for é)
00:33:23 <hppavilion[1]> But sometimes "o with a line through it" is used...
00:33:51 <Zarutian> I have heard "diameter measurement symbol"
00:34:04 <Zarutian> but that is when it is used on technical drawings
00:34:04 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: ø the letter
00:34:27 <Zarutian> yebb the same letter
00:34:27 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: The diameter symbol is at a different unicodepoint
00:34:39 <Zarutian> indeed but not many dont know this
00:34:57 <hppavilion[1]> "k" -> "kay" -> "kayaywhy" -> "kayaywhyaywhydoubleyuaychwhy" -> ...
00:35:20 <Zarutian> agh, last should be «indeed but not many do know this»
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00:35:39 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: and that is why lojbanists use letterals
00:36:38 <hppavilion[1]> And properly, you should say [ø] when you read it
00:36:45 <boily> èf, gé, ache, i, ji...
00:38:02 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I can't tell if there's a method here or... wait, is this french?
00:38:14 <myname> whats's a letteral
00:38:30 <Zarutian> boily: the official name for the unnervers output is called élúðnirseimeðja
00:38:32 <izalove> `` sed ':a;p;s/^/_/;:b;s/_k/kay_/;s/_a/ay_/;s/_y/why_/;tb;s/_//;ba' <<< k
00:38:33 <HackEgo> k \ kay \ kayaywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywhywhy \ kayaywhyaywhywhyaywhywhyaywh
00:39:19 <izalove> wait
00:39:21 <izalove> wrong
00:39:21 <hppavilion[1]> izalove: WRONG
00:39:26 <izalove> sry
00:39:30 <izalove> i forgot how to english
00:39:45 <hppavilion[1]> izalove: Properly, you have to give every letter a name (including æ, ø, ð, þ, etc, just in case)
00:40:00 * Zarutian is reminded of wong way in the chinese quarter in an canadian city he visisted
00:40:21 <FireFly> but æ and ø are just called that
00:40:25 <hppavilion[1]> ŋ -> eŋ -> ieŋ -> aiieŋ -> ei -> ...
00:40:46 <FireFly> Fun thing, when I first learned swedish I recognised vowels and consonants by whether their name was just their sound, or several sounds together
00:40:50 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: æ is "ash", "asch", "æsh", or "æsch"
00:41:10 <FireFly> not in norwegian
00:41:11 <FireFly> or danish
00:41:16 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: We're talking about english
00:41:39 <FireFly> fair
00:41:48 <Zarutian> Þe fun þing about Æslandic letters is that many understand what Æ say when Æ vræt við þem
00:42:08 <myname> while we are at it: why aren't the "words" for a, i, o and u not just vowels in english?
00:42:11 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: itym ð hth
00:42:14 <myname> that's stupid
00:42:16 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: and Ð
00:42:56 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: þ is unvoiced <th>, ð is voiced <th> (remember because voiced <th> should really be <dh>)
00:43:07 <FireFly> myname: right, that was quite weird to me
00:43:22 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Until I learned about diphthongs, they were vowels
00:43:30 <FireFly> hppavilion[1]: I think Zarutian would know
00:43:47 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Also, I would insist there are 5 or 6 vowels when asked a few years ago
00:43:48 <myname> well.
00:43:48 <FireFly> considering icelandic still uses htem
00:43:51 <FireFly> them*
00:44:00 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: Oh/
00:44:01 <hppavilion[1]> *?
00:44:09 <myname> hppavilion[1]: that,really depends on what you call vowel
00:44:37 <hppavilion[1]> myname: In english, any n-phthong is considered a vowel afaict
00:44:50 <FireFly> that's a weird definition
00:45:00 <FireFly> well, a new one for me
00:45:02 <izalove> `` sed ':a;p;s/^/_/;:b;s/_a/ay_/;s/_b/bee_/;s/_c/cee_/;s/_d/dee_/;s/_e/ee_/;s/_f/ef_/;s/_g/gee_/;s/_h/aitch_/;s/_i/i_/;s/_j/jay_/;s/_k/kay_/;s/_l/el_/;s/_m/em_/;s/_n/en_/;s/_o/o_/;s/_p/pee_/;s/_q/que_/;s/_r/ar_/;s/_s/es_/;s/_t/tee_/;s/_u/yu_/;s/_v/vee_/;s/_w/doubleyu_/;s/_x/ex_/;s/_y/wye_/;s/_z/zee_/;tb;s/_//;ba'<<<k
00:45:10 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: Only calling [i:], [e:], [a:], etc vowels is a weird definition to us
00:45:10 <myname> i really don't know if that makes any diffwrence in the pronounciation
00:45:22 <myname> but well, english pronounciation is bogus nontheless
00:45:25 <FireFly> Well, [i], [e], [a] etc
00:45:27 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Can't tell if that w is a pun...
00:45:32 * izalove broke HackEgo
00:45:33 <HackEgo> k \ kay \ kayaywye \ kayaywyeaywyedoubleyuwyeee \ kayaywyeaywyedoubleyuwyeeeaywyedoubleyuwyeeedeeoyubeeeleewyeyudoubleyuwyeeeeeee \ kayaywyeaywyedoubleyuwyeeeaywyedoubleyuwyeeedeeoyubeeeleewyeyudoubleyuwyeeeeeeeaywyedoubleyuwyeeedeeoyubeeeleewyeyudoubleyuwyeeeeeeedeeeeeeowyeyubeeeeeeeeeleeeedoubleyuwyeeewyeyudeeoyubeeeleewyeyudoubleyuwyeeeeeeeeeeee
00:45:40 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: both þ and ð are unvoiced. The rules of writing is that ð never starts a word nor sound-part-of-word (Which I dont recall the name of but it starts with s)
00:45:45 <myname> hppavilion[1]: it's not
00:45:49 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: *gasp*
00:46:12 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: You have ruined having ð and þ for me.
00:46:31 <alercah> Zarutian: syllable?
00:46:43 <Zarutian> Þough þorn is usually stressed but eð is not
00:46:50 <Zarutian> alercah: syllable it is!
00:47:00 <boily> hppavilion[1]: French is easier to learn than Icelandic, and usefuler for when you'll move to Canada hth
00:47:02 <hppavilion[1]> "tdhwylion" -> "this does help whether you like it or not"
00:47:12 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Yes :P
00:47:31 <myname> usefuler
00:47:42 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: but that is just an artifact of Icelanders speak. The first sound in the first syllable is stressed. So I might sound like þ is voiced
00:48:32 <hppavilion[1]> myname: In my pet language, all single-symbol voweloids are monophthongs (vowels), and there are 3 ways of writing every vowel
00:48:42 <Zarutian> boily: I do not know, around Manitoba there are many West-Icelanders that still speak Icelandic though their choice of words sounds quinte and somewhat oldstylish to me and many other Icelanders.
00:49:09 <boily> myname: it's cromulent.
00:49:13 <hppavilion[1]> myname: lower case and upper case (as usual), and "overcase" which is a diacritical mark. A vowel <a> with a diacritical mark <b> above it is the <ab> monophthong
00:49:22 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: so it is somewhat similiar to how you write that Elvish script Tolkien invented?
00:49:29 <boily> Zarutian: Manitoba is a weird province hth
00:49:34 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Maybe? I don't know Elvish.
00:49:53 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: The only fictional-world language I'm familiar with is R'lyehan, which isn't very fleshy
00:50:55 <hppavilion[1]> (There are also symbols for semivowels, which can only combine with consonants)
00:50:59 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: oh, come on, you must have heard Klingon destroy someones throat
00:51:14 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: I might've heard it, but I can't read it
00:51:24 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Have you ever HEARD R'lyehan?
00:51:46 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
00:52:00 <Zarutian> strangely I recall the name of the creator in Tolkien world-stuff which is Ilúvatar iirc
00:52:26 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: sounds like constipated farting through vocalcords? then yes
00:53:11 <hppavilion[1]> Collation with diphthongs is done by treating a vowel-with-diacritic as equivalent to the main vowel followed by the diacriticed vowel, with ties broken by putting diacriticized second
00:53:39 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: R'lyehan includes the labioglottal inversion as a sound.
00:53:48 <Zarutian> so basically how Thai is written then?
00:54:05 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Maybe? I don't know
00:54:08 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: speaking on the in breath as it were?
00:54:24 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: wait, which one is this?
00:54:54 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: labioglottal inversion meant that yes?
00:55:32 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: labio- is lips, glottal is glottis, which is near your throat. If the place of articulation is labioglottal, it means you have to press them together.
00:55:50 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Which isn't a thing that human anatomy is particularly good at
00:56:32 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: pretty much celeophods with no beak structure?
00:57:21 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Sure
00:57:24 * hppavilion[1] is afk
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01:05:35 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> And I'm still waiting on some information on whether I write "a ø" or "an ø" <-- "ø" is a vowel hth
01:06:15 <Zarutian> an entire island of one such
01:06:38 <alercah> oerjan: that's not sufficient evidence though
01:06:41 <alercah> "an a" but "a u"
01:06:56 <alercah> it should be "an ø" though
01:07:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Puarsliburf * New user account
01:09:14 * Zarutian is off to bed
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01:12:08 <boily> oh, a new user! is it spam? is it a human being? a fungot?
01:12:08 <fungot> boily: i think hills work... i think you have
01:12:18 <boily> fungot: I work better than a hill hth
01:12:18 <fungot> boily: i start writing. as for the " center". oops, my fault. -g is fine as long as it contains no useful value, though.)
01:12:33 <oerjan> <myname> while we are at it: why aren't the "words" for a, i, o and u not just vowels in english? <-- Great Vowel Shift hth
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01:21:00 <quintopia> whoa
01:25:07 <quintopia> bon soily
01:26:18 <oerjan> <boily> oh, a new user! is it spam? is it a human being? a fungot? <-- no hits in the abuse filter yet
01:26:18 <fungot> oerjan: that idea is fnord awake?" o'clock. doesn't seem the same to scheme because it's small and easy to understand code compared to something liek c or ocaml.
01:26:56 <oerjan> boily: so, you're a hilltopper?
01:28:15 <boily> I may even spin on a hilltop. a helicotopper.
01:31:33 <oerjan> sounds like it might spiral out of control.
01:34:30 <boily> unless I'm singing stuff from the Sound of Music on a hill, everything is fine.
01:35:26 <oerjan> that might be going a bit fa
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01:38:12 * boily la laaa la la laaaa ♪
01:45:02 <oerjan> `? sbeef
01:45:03 <HackEgo> sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow
01:45:16 <oerjan> `slwd sbeef//s/./S/;s/$/./
01:45:19 <HackEgo> sbeef//Sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow.
01:49:45 <izalove> did you know that if you rearrange the letters in donald trump
01:49:50 <izalove> you cn get tan dump lord?
02:04:13 <pecan> Woah
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02:21:01 <oerjan> `? mapole
02:21:02 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
02:21:58 <oerjan> `wisdom
02:22:02 <HackEgo> lord//The way of the Lord is not just.
02:22:20 <oerjan> `cwlprits lord
02:22:23 <HackEgo> shachäf
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02:52:06 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: itym ø is a vøwel
02:52:39 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: But yes, while ø is a vowel, it isn't usually read by English speakers as a vowel
03:20:13 <hppavilion[1]> WHOO! MY DIMENSIONAL ANALYZER WORKS!
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03:30:43 <zzo38> What is a dimensional analyzer?
04:09:05 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: It's a program for dimensional analysis
04:10:47 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: It takes measurements and combines them in a unit-aware fashion; so e.g. if you tell it (4m * 30 kg) / (2 s^2), it'll tell you 60 N
04:11:32 <zzo38> O, OK.
04:12:36 <zzo38> The "units" program almost does that
04:12:37 <oerjan> `frink (4m * 30 kg) / (2 s^2)
04:12:55 <HackEgo> 60 m s^-2 kg (force)
04:13:26 <oerjan> `frink 60 N
04:13:28 <zzo38> That is the answer units gives too; it won't automatically tell you newtons
04:13:30 <HackEgo> 60 m s^-2 kg (force)
04:13:32 <shachaf> `frink 20V * 3A
04:13:37 <HackEgo> 60 m^2 s^-3 kg (power)
04:13:54 <shachaf> wat
04:14:02 <oerjan> shachaf: PROBLEM?
04:14:07 <oerjan> oh.
04:14:18 * oerjan swatts shachaf -----###
04:32:41 <\oren\> https://youtu.be/kPRA0W1kECg
04:38:16 <MDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ZnrzTfFIQ
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04:49:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Challenger5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50164&oldid=49747 * Challenger5 * (+12)
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05:21:08 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: the sorting video made me happy tdh
05:24:03 <shachaf> That video is pretty neat.
05:27:32 <zzo38> Designing this program to work with GURPS templates that include skills that are improved from default will be confusing since the default may differ between the template and the rest of the character.
05:29:19 <zzo38> (For now I will just assume that a character's default overrides a template's default and hope that works.)
05:30:09 <zzo38> (Note that this may mean that a template's total may change based on what skills the character has, I seems like!)
05:33:41 <hppavilion[1]> Fun idea: Kidnap Rent and force them at gunpoint to reperform Seasons of Love with a more accurate count of "525948.7535999999 minutes in a year (by the current mean tropical length)"
05:34:16 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, wait
05:34:47 <hppavilion[1]> 525949.01856 minutes might be better. Do we want tropical year or march equinox year?
05:34:47 <shachaf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWL33wHrV6k
05:35:03 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: ty tmh
05:37:24 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: the one at 2:02 is trippy
05:37:58 <shachaf> like, whoa, man
05:38:01 <shachaf> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmOtL6pPcI0
05:42:12 <hppavilion[1]> I'm waiting for the sequels to Gravity to come out: Electromagnetism and the two-part Weak and Strong Nuclear Force movies
05:43:20 <alercah> `unidecode ♖
05:43:21 <HackEgo> ​[U+2656 WHITE CHESS ROOK]
05:44:48 <hppavilion[1]> AKA RACIALLY PURE CHESS ROOK
05:45:07 <shachaf> can you not do that here please twh
05:45:18 * hppavilion[1] sits by the coroner and thinks about what he's done
05:45:56 <zzo38> Shouldn't you mean corner? Corner is where the rook will be started at anyways, isn't it?
05:46:51 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: I mean coroner hth
05:46:57 <zzo38> O, OK
05:47:03 <shachaf> there is actually nothing funny about that joke
05:47:05 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: The guy who cuts open dead bodies to find how they died
05:47:26 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: It's a knee-jerk reaction
05:47:37 <shachaf> I don't get it.
05:47:38 <zzo38> Yes, I know what coroner is.
05:47:55 <hppavilion[1]> Bubble sort is trippy in its own way
05:48:05 <zzo38> What way is that?
05:48:55 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: You have to see it. Click shachaf's "also ..." link above
05:51:26 <oerjan> `addquote <hppavilion[1]> I'm waiting for the sequels to Gravity to come out: Electromagnetism and the two-part Weak and Strong Nuclear Force movies
05:51:30 <HackEgo> 1297) <hppavilion[1]> I'm waiting for the sequels to Gravity to come out: Electromagnetism and the two-part Weak and Strong Nuclear Force movies
05:51:33 <hppavilion[1]> :D
06:30:48 <\oren\> `` perl -e 'print 500/9;'
06:30:49 <HackEgo> 55.5555555555556
06:34:45 <myname> what
06:35:18 <\oren\> myname: that's how many days till I need to look at this ship again
06:35:56 <myname> okay, i guess?
06:39:34 <hppavilion[1]> Nondeterministic bogosort would actually be fairly efficient...
06:40:00 <hppavilion[1]> (Time-efficient, not space-efficient)
06:40:25 <hppavilion[1]> Generate all permutations of the list, iterate over them, replacing a variable every time you find a more sorted one than the current
06:40:58 <myname> why? just nondeterministically select the correct permutation
06:41:00 <myname> donr
06:41:37 <myname> O(1) time, O(n) space (if not done in place)
06:43:03 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Inverse sort: Take a list L, return a relation R where sort(L, R) = L
06:43:39 <hppavilion[1]> (where sort(l, r) sorts l with the comparison r used to determine which value goes first)
06:44:18 <myname> nice idea
06:44:38 <myname> do you have any idea of how exactly to do that?
06:46:19 <shachaf> What is isort([1,2,1])?
06:46:43 <myname> (t
06:46:55 <myname> (le, ge)?
06:47:28 <hppavilion[1]> myname: No, and for finite lists (and maybe even some infinite lists), there are infinitely many possible answers
06:48:25 <hppavilion[1]> myname: It's more mathematical than computeral
06:49:27 <myname> it doesn't matter if there are infinitely many solutiony
06:49:35 <myname> you just need to find one
06:49:49 <hppavilion[1]> myname: True
06:50:48 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: ...yeah, no idea. It probably isn't defined for lists with non-consecutive repeated values
06:51:06 <myname> there is no reasons for it not to be
06:51:14 <shachaf> Then it's pretty boring.
06:51:31 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Or, lists with repeated values have the boring answer of "yes_2"
06:51:39 <shachaf> For a list [a,b,c,d], you create the total order a < b < c < d
06:51:50 <myname> hppavilion[1]: huh?
06:52:24 <hppavilion[1]> myname: on lists with- wait, nevermind
06:52:50 <myname> how is yes a relation?
06:53:07 <hppavilion[1]> myname: yes_2 is a relation that is true for all values
06:53:14 * hppavilion[1] checks if he messed something up
06:53:52 <myname> that does not make sense for [1,2,1]
06:54:58 <hppavilion[1]> myname: 1 Y 2, 2 Y 1 (where Y is the yes_2 relation)
06:55:23 <myname> that would not sort the list at all
06:55:39 <hppavilion[1]> myname: It wouldn't, would it...
06:56:05 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, is it possible to have an infinitary relation?
06:56:25 <myname> why not
06:56:40 <hppavilion[1]> Essentially, an infinitary relation over S is some subset of S × S × ... = S^inf
06:57:08 <myname> you could easily redefine subset as infinitary relation
06:57:41 <hppavilion[1]> myname: You could, couldn't y- wait, what?
06:57:46 <myname> instead of a set in another set you look for arbitrary many values in other arbitrary many values
06:57:55 <myname> each of which can be infinite
06:59:31 <hppavilion[1]> myname: ...one of us is confused
06:59:57 <myname> i am not
07:14:17 <hppavilion[1]> myname: OK, it must be me then
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07:47:11 <izalove> problem: remove duplicate lines from a file. if the file is too large, the hash table approach takes too much space. what's a good solution in that case?
07:48:38 <izalove> i don't know an easy way to sort lines in a file in O(1) space if the length of the lines is variable
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08:03:36 <hppavilion[1]> I'm reading a "totally legitimately obtained" copy of the Friends Forever MLP comic, issue 20
08:03:40 <hppavilion[1]> This is amazing
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08:14:51 <shachaf> izalove: If it really has to be O(1), any sorting algorithm that only swaps adjacent lines should work, right?
08:15:08 <izalove> are you suggesting bubble sort?
08:15:45 <oerjan> isn't gnu sort optimized for this sort of thing
08:15:46 <shachaf> Insertion sort is surely better than bubble sort in almost every case.
08:15:53 <izalove> ok
08:16:00 <izalove> i was thinking something like a trie
08:16:04 <shachaf> Anyway I'm not suggesting either of them for your original problem.
08:16:51 <shachaf> But if you want a comparison sort that uses O(1) space on variable-sized entries, that's an obvious answer.
08:17:31 <izalove> thoughts on the trie?
08:17:53 <shachaf> An in-place prefix tree?
08:18:04 <shachaf> You might be able to do something.
08:19:14 <shachaf> http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/55128/inplace-sorting-of-variable-length-records
08:19:23 <shachaf> That radix sort might be along the lines you're suggesting.
08:20:32 <shachaf> But, really, how big is your file?
08:20:38 <izalove> i don't know
08:20:51 <shachaf> Petabytes?
08:21:10 <izalove> let's assume the size of the universe + 1
08:21:25 <shachaf> OK, so this is meant to be entirely theoretical.
08:21:42 <izalove> it was an interview question i found online
08:21:47 <izalove> and they didn't specify how large
08:21:59 <izalove> just large enough that the hash table is not viable
08:22:51 <shachaf> Well, do you have enough space for e.g. an array of indexes into the file?
08:22:56 <shachaf> Are the lines expected to be long or short?
08:23:05 <izalove> i don't know
08:23:08 <shachaf> Is there a significant seek time such that you really want to process the file sequentially?
08:23:21 <izalove> that line is literally all i've got
08:23:49 <izalove> 2) Give you a text file, remove duplicated lines.
08:23:51 <izalove> Follow up: If the file is very large, general hash map takes too much spaces, come up with a better solution.
08:24:03 <shachaf> Wait, the question wasn't even about sorting a file, it was about removing duplicates.
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11:40:39 <boily> `wisdom
11:40:47 <HackEgo> te sting//This is horrible?
11:49:09 <int-e> `cwlprits te sting
11:49:12 <HackEgo> shachäf shachäf oerjän
11:55:23 <boily> int-ello. everything is terrible!
11:55:31 <boily> http://watch.everythingisterrible.com/
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13:30:01 <int-e> @tell boily <boily> int-ello. everything is terrible! <-- how did you know that I was looking at systemd at that time? that's uncanny!
13:30:02 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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15:13:07 <b_jonas> Was #1058 olisted yet?
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15:13:39 <moony> moo2
15:13:44 <moony> http://tinyurl.com/jsov795 << kittens
15:14:04 <b_jonas> `olist 1058
15:14:05 <HackEgo> olist 1058: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
15:15:11 <int-e> `wisdom
15:15:12 <HackEgo> tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, the long line, locales, and histograms.
15:15:17 <int-e> `wisdom
15:15:18 <HackEgo> afk//Afk wrote a famous story about hang.
15:31:34 <int-e> `? kAFKa
15:31:35 <HackEgo> kAFKa? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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16:08:03 <\oren\> hmm, which sorting algorithm benefits the most from locality?
16:08:25 <moony> new favorite idle game: http://factoryidle.com/
16:08:30 <moony> warning: this one requires a brain
16:11:03 <\oren\> also: which sorting algorithm would work the best for sorting data on a hard disk?
16:12:50 <FireFly> I played factoryidle a bit, it was pretty fun to try to come up with efficient designs
16:13:15 <FireFly> moony: apropos of kittens, there is also the kittens game
16:14:31 <shachaf> FireFly: did you play factorio
16:14:42 * moony hugs factorio
16:15:08 <FireFly> shachaf: no, not yet. I suspect I'd become addicted to it for a bit if I buy it
16:15:21 <shachaf> FireFly: what if you just try the demo though
16:15:26 <FireFly> it does seem like a game I'd enjoy
16:15:27 <shachaf> that's not buying it
16:15:41 <moony> i tried it, its fun ^_^
16:15:42 <FireFly> I'd probably just end up buying it in that case :p
16:16:00 <FireFly> I'll get it eventually
16:16:23 <int-e> \oren\: http://sortbenchmark.org/ may not really answer your question but I'm glad I found that page.
16:17:30 <alercah> is there a sort benchmark where you have to sort a trillion bits of data?
16:17:48 <moony> sounds big
16:18:13 <alercah> it's small compared to those benchmarks
16:18:20 <alercah> but those probably ask you to sort data more than one bit big
16:18:31 <alercah> my benchmark has you sort all the bits in ascending order
16:19:56 <int-e> alercah: sorry, but bucket sort with only 2 buckets sounds a bit boring.
16:23:33 <shachaf> hint-e
16:23:41 <shachaf> did you play factorio
16:24:47 <alercah> int-e: pssssh
16:26:01 <shachaf> fizzie: I found out that every time I did a voice search from my Android phone, my voice was recorded.
16:31:01 <moony> :P
16:31:38 <alercah> shachaf: that's... not a secret
16:32:03 <shachaf> alercah: I've repeatedly gone through the Google thing in the past and disabled all the histories I could.
16:32:12 <shachaf> Maybe this is a new one.
16:32:18 <shachaf> Now I disabled it too.
16:44:58 <\oren\> this game doesn't seem to simulate conveyor belt jams
16:45:22 <\oren\> I can transport a lot of resources on a single conveyor
16:45:47 <shachaf> \oren\: try factorio hth
16:45:55 <shachaf> https://www.factorio.com/
16:46:22 <\oren\> shachaf: what, no factor.io?
16:46:31 <\oren\> weak
16:47:14 <shachaf> they put the domain name money into game development hth
16:47:27 <alercah> factorio looks like a game I would enjoy
16:47:41 <alercah> does it work in Wine?
16:47:58 <shachaf> Maybe?
16:48:02 <shachaf> But there's a Linux version.
16:48:11 <alercah> not on steam
16:48:30 <shachaf> There's a Linux version on Steam.
16:48:57 <alercah> really? because http://store.steampowered.com/app/427520/ doesn't list linux as supported
16:49:19 <shachaf> There's a Steam logo, which means SteamOS.
16:49:32 <shachaf> That's how they do it.
16:49:35 <alercah> oh
16:49:36 <shachaf> What did you want, a penguin?
16:49:40 <shachaf> (I wanted a penguin.)
16:50:39 <alercah> yes
16:50:53 <alercah> a penguin is exactly what I want
16:51:06 <shachaf> 🐧 hth
16:51:21 <alercah> tdh
16:53:09 <shachaf> alercah: But I think if you buy the game on factorio.com it maybe comes with a Steam key?
16:53:14 <shachaf> Or maybe it doesn't.
16:53:23 <shachaf> But it comes with a non-DRM version at any rate.
17:05:39 <myname> i'd love factorio for android
17:12:17 <izalove> someone please invent archivearchive.org
17:12:32 <myname> what
17:12:34 <alercah> yeah it does
17:12:43 <izalove> https://web.archive.org/web/20140113145619/http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~richie/cs267/mg/report/node35.html <- 503 :(
17:12:46 <izalove> i'm lost
17:15:00 <izalove> it's fixed now, praise the lawds
17:24:33 <moony> [?]
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17:48:48 <b_jonas> izalove: it already exists at http://web.archive.org/web/20161106011722/http://archive.org/ . Even archivearchivearchive exists at http://web.archive.org/web/20160409153039/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://archive.org
17:49:32 <izalove> holy redundancy
17:49:53 <b_jonas> this actually stacks to a lot of levels: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://archive.org exists
17:50:14 <b_jonas> that's archive^7
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18:35:38 <Zarutian> oerjan: oyster romance!
18:40:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Puarsliburf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50168 * Puarsliburf * (+256) Created page with "Hello, I'm Puarsliburf! I program when I'm bored, leading to interesting results from time to time. ==Quick facts about me== *I live in southern Sweden *I'm currently learnin..."
18:45:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Puarsliburf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50169&oldid=50168 * Puarsliburf * (+27) /* Things I've made */
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19:02:11 <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, Randall
19:02:13 <hppavilion[1]> So close
19:02:26 <moony> lol
19:02:38 <hppavilion[1]> moony: bsqtms
19:02:41 <moony> hppavilion[1], i recommend to go on #xkcd if you want to complain about XKCD
19:02:59 <hppavilion[1]> moony: Eh, I should be on #xkcd in general
19:03:43 <moony> really, im sitting around on the offical channel (on Foonetic) and i dont see you there.
19:05:39 <hppavilion[1]> moony: I'm not, trying to figure out why my client won't connect to Foonetic
19:05:44 <hppavilion[1]> moony: "connection reset by peer"
19:05:48 <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, peer gynt
19:05:48 <moony> lol
19:05:49 <hppavilion[1]> `? peer
19:05:50 <HackEgo> Peer Gynt is a famous Norwegian troll. His reviews are in high demand, but nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections.
19:06:20 <moony> * Bucket steals taixzonaut's corneas and sells them to the lowest bidder
19:06:43 <moony> warning: people are goofing off as usual, its not serious and peaceful #esoteric (jk)
19:07:36 <hppavilion[1]> moony: Well yes
19:07:46 <hppavilion[1]> moony: I've been there before, I just don't autoconnecft
19:07:52 <moony> ah
19:07:56 <hppavilion[1]> moony: Now I do
19:08:29 * moony shoves hppavilion[1] into bucket
19:19:09 <int-e> a bucket! why didn't I think of that.
19:21:14 <int-e> really, that's the logo... what's the fedex arrow doing in there?
19:22:07 <hppavilion[1]> moony: Oh. THAT'S where the shove was was
19:22:21 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: "Bucket" is the name of the bot in #xkcd
19:22:25 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: hth
19:26:40 <moony> @tell boily we put a mapole in bucket for you
19:26:40 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
19:29:00 <moony> a maple, a mapole, a maypole, and an n-pole.
19:29:07 <moony> people added too many poles
19:29:42 <Zarutian> dont forget the papoles!
19:29:53 <moony> lol
19:30:13 <moony> i think the mapole distorts the time and space in there enough
19:30:14 <Zarutian> and are there maynotpoles?
19:30:32 <moony> `? mapole
19:30:33 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
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19:35:11 <b_jonas> what? why do the canadian standard use imperial length metrics?
19:36:39 <Zarutian> because they couldnt decide on how long the quebit should be
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19:38:44 <shachaf> @ask boily isn't it a thwackamapoleit it hth
19:38:44 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
19:40:12 <int-e> `? mapole
19:40:13 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
19:40:32 <int-e> Oh, it's just a few lines up there.
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19:48:55 <zzo38> Since all JavaScript numbers are 64-bit floating-point, that means that you can also use +Infinity and -Infinity as numbers, even in circumstances where fractions are not applicable. I do tend to sometimes find this useful.
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19:52:02 <zzo38> There is no complex numbers, but (as in C and BASIC) you can do the math on paper to convert it into an equivalent calculation with real numbers.
19:52:17 <zzo38> (Although I haven't needed complex numbers in JavaScript yet anyways.)
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19:53:50 <ybden> There are complex numbers in C11
19:54:28 <hppavilion[1]> I wonder if "complex number" is considered feminine in grammatically gendered languages....
19:54:43 <zzo38> Yes, although I don't like the way they do that and don't use it.
19:55:08 <zzo38> (I use a subset of the GNU89 version of C when I do C programming.)
19:55:36 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: I use C666, the official version of C used in hell
19:55:43 <hppavilion[1]> (Heavily influenced by COBOL)
19:56:27 <b_jonas> I actually quite like C99 complex numbers.
19:56:29 <zzo38> There are a few GNU89 features not supported in clang, but I think I don't use those features anyways, so it should be compatible.
20:01:04 <zzo38> In one case what I did is to implement a low-pass filter with a complex coefficient.
20:02:29 <zzo38> But recently I read a book they mentioned in a section about "random radio" a circuit that has power that decreases exponentially but whether it is monotonic or oscillatory depend on if the solutions of a quadratic equation are real or complex. Does it have anything to do with that?
20:03:29 <zzo38> (Since a low pass filter with a complex coefficient also oscillates; I realized this before programming into the computer, and then did so in order to figure out how exactly it might sound.)
20:05:22 <zzo38> hppavilion[1]: How the C666 is doing?
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20:05:38 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: ...wat?
20:06:07 <b_jonas> what's a C666?
20:06:29 <zzo38> I don't know; that is why I asked
20:06:51 <b_jonas> ah
20:06:53 <b_jonas> `? C666
20:06:54 <HackEgo> C666? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:07:41 <int-e> it could be a rare carbon isotope
20:07:41 <zzo38> (Actually, I think they don't actually know either, but I like to ask anyways.)
20:07:51 <zzo38> int-e: O, yes, I didn't think of that.
20:08:28 <zzo38> But it is going to be a heavy kind probably, and I don't know how radioactive it would be. Do you know?
20:09:07 <ais523> I don't think anything with that many neutrons compare to the number of protons it has would be stable at all
20:09:18 <ais523> unless it's sufficiently heavy that it can hold itself together under gravity
20:09:28 <int-e> not a clue; I suspect it wouldn't exist long enough to be accepted as an actual nucleus.
20:10:01 <zzo38> I thought also it won't be stable at all, but I don't know so that is why I ask (and anyways I don't know exactly how much, either).
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21:02:36 <zzo38> Do you know how point-based character creation works in Shadowrun? How similar is it to GURPS? (Someone asked me if the program I wrote is compatible, and I don't know.)
21:03:27 <zzo38> (I think I once saw a PDF of the book but I don't have it anymore and don't remember it so well.)
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21:07:40 <b_jonas> zzo38: if you don't get a reply here, ask that on http://rpg.stackexchange.com/
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22:52:07 <boily> `wisdom
22:52:08 <HackEgo> ​Ø//Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug
22:52:09 <boily> @massages-loud
22:52:10 <lambdabot> int-e said 9h 22m 7s ago: <boily> int-ello. everything is terrible! <-- how did you know that I was looking at systemd at that time? that's uncanny!
22:52:10 <lambdabot> moony said 3h 25m 29s ago: we put a mapole in bucket for you
22:52:10 <lambdabot> shachaf asked 3h 13m 25s ago: isn't it a thwackamapoleit it hth
22:52:32 <shachaf> int-e: http://syste.md/ hth
22:52:41 <boily> int-e: int-ello. systemd is good for you.
22:52:55 <boily> moonheart08, moony: mhelloony. bucket?
22:53:03 <boily> hellochaf.
22:54:47 <moonheart08> hi boily
22:54:58 <moonheart08> Bucket is a #xkcd bot :P
22:55:10 <boily> tdh.
22:57:47 <boily> `wisdom
22:57:48 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
22:58:01 <boily> ah, oerjan is now blue?
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23:01:22 <boily> `` sed -i 's/ity/seisty/' wisdom/oerjan
23:01:25 <HackEgo> wisdom/oerjan//Your revertebrate seistymologist gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
23:03:58 <shachaf> epistymologist
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23:04:55 <boily> nooooo! fungot died!
23:05:06 <boily> `` sed -i 's/seisty/episty/' wisdom/oerjan
23:05:09 <HackEgo> wisdom/oerjan//Your revertebrate epistymologist gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
23:05:29 <shachaf> tyvmologist
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23:07:20 <boily> tyvmologist?
23:08:45 <shachaf> yes, thank you very much
23:08:55 <boily> makes sense.
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23:27:50 <zzo38> I don't know why there is not the "repeat" command built-in to Linux, but now I added it
23:28:24 <shachaf> What does it do?
23:29:41 <zzo38> First argument tell you how many times to repeat and the rest is what command to execute repeatedly
23:30:25 <zzo38> http://sprunge.us/cZSV
23:31:04 <shachaf> shouldn't it be called replicateM_ hth
23:32:06 <zzo38> But "repeat" is shorter
23:32:25 <oerjan> `dowg te sting
23:32:27 <HackEgo> 7147:2016-03-06 <shachäf> revert \ 7146:2016-03-06 <shachäf> le/rn Te sting/Did you mean "The sting"? \ 7145:2016-03-06 <oerjän> le/rn Te sting/This is horrible?
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23:33:21 <shachaf> dowg = dramatic owg
23:33:31 <shachaf> owg = owl giant
23:33:33 * oerjan wonders why we didn't delete that
23:33:57 <oerjan> i vaguely think it was put there to test a HackEgo bug that has since been fixed...
23:34:09 <shachaf> `? te sting
23:34:10 <HackEgo> This is horrible?
23:34:30 <oerjan> maybe it was too horrible to contemplate.
23:34:56 <shachaf> oerjan: how do you feel about sweet potatoes
23:34:57 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; ls te*
23:35:00 <HackEgo> teh \ terminal symbol \ termite \ test \ testing \ te sting \ tetrapleur \ tetris
23:35:21 <oerjan> shachaf: i think i have had very limited exposure to them, as in, i'm not sure what they are, even.
23:35:28 <shachaf> `slwd oerjan//s*gneiss*sweet*
23:35:30 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your revertebrate epistymologist sweet potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
23:35:59 <shachaf> søtpotet
23:36:06 <shachaf> batata
23:36:27 <oerjan> yes. even if it has a norwegian name, it's still not something that's traditional.
23:36:40 <shachaf> my opinion: sweet potatoes are scow
23:36:44 <oerjan> OKAY
23:37:12 * oerjan will make due with normal potatoes, then.
23:37:35 <shachaf> is that a pun
23:37:37 <shachaf> make due
23:37:43 <shachaf> i don't follow
23:37:57 <oerjan> darn
23:38:01 <oerjan> *do
23:38:01 <boily> en:"make due" → fr:"faire avec".
23:38:07 <oerjan> no wait
23:38:10 <oerjan> it was right
23:38:40 <shachaf> or was it
23:39:00 * oerjan started worried so googled, found the answer, came back to see shachaf protesting and assumed he had got it wrong.
23:39:06 <oerjan> *worrying
23:39:15 <shachaf> p. sure it's "make do" hth
23:39:21 <shachaf> @google make do vs make due
23:39:22 <lambdabot> http://grammarist.com/usage/make-do-make-due/
23:39:23 <lambdabot> Title: Make do vs. make due - Grammarist
23:39:24 <oerjan> no wait
23:40:09 <oerjan> *due
23:40:13 <Taneb> I guess we're all just going to have to make dew
23:40:15 <oerjan> *do
23:40:17 <oerjan> argh
23:40:25 <zzo38> Now I have a few shell scripts: "repeat" (repeats a command), "sprunge" (pastebin), "fav" (open a Firefox bookmark), "printdvi" (rasterize a DVI and send it to the printer), "rot13" (ROT13), "icanhazip" (tells my computer's WAN address), and a few others.
23:40:37 <oerjan> my brain refuses to absorb the answer
23:40:58 <boily> oerjan: amortized?
23:41:12 <boily> `? Taneb
23:41:13 <HackEgo> Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions).
23:41:54 <boily> `le/rn dew/In the Mountains of York, Taneb makes dew.
23:41:56 <HackEgo> Learned 'dew': In the Mountains of York, Taneb makes dew.
23:42:10 <boily> is York know for its mountains?
23:42:14 <Taneb> No
23:42:17 <Taneb> No it is really not
23:42:36 <Taneb> It is rather flat, in fact
23:43:15 <shachaf> that's why Taneb's dutch ancestors emigrated to it hth
23:43:26 <zzo38> I also made the version of the RinkWorks Fantasy Name Generator in JavaScript now. I don't have the source code for the original so I did it differently; you can see how it is did: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/namegen.js
23:44:55 <zzo38> (By combining it with the "repeat" command I mentioned, you can get multiple outputs.)
23:45:50 <zzo38> Do you like this?
23:48:21 <zzo38> (The other difference is that only the advanced interface is included in this version, and not the simple interface. I don't know the internal details of the simple interface.)
23:50:03 <boily> `le/rn dew/In the Famous Mountains of York, Taneb makes dew.
23:50:05 <HackEgo> Relearned 'dew': In the Famous Mountains of York, Taneb makes dew.
23:51:10 <zzo38> With proper data it could be made more accurate, but instead I just typed stuff like "c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c" into the RinkWorks Fantasy Name Generator and pasted the output into my program. I hope I have a sufficient number of samples to work with.
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23:59:13 <hppavilion[1]> Any subset of a consistent system [of axioms] is also consistent, and any superset of a complete system of axioms is also complete, correct?
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