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00:00:10 <GregorR> ehird: Too similar to in-the-code or otherwise undrawable.
00:00:13 <GregorR> pikhq: Too obvious.
00:00:25 <olsner> do not put the baby in the argument of removeDirectoryRecursive
00:00:38 <ehird> GregorR, A=Do not put the baby in the A
00:01:01 <pikhq> New idea.
00:01:10 <ehird> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE NEW IDEA
00:01:10 <pikhq> "Do not put the baby"
00:01:16 <ehird> pikhq, I think I win.
00:01:24 <pikhq> Touche.
00:01:29 <pikhq> (douche)
00:02:46 <ehird> pikhq, :(
00:27:08 <ehird> Channel is dead, here is a fortune:
00:27:08 <ehird> Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so
00:27:08 <ehird> get used to it.
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03:18:56 <Sgeo> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE POST-BIG CRUNCH UNIVERSE
03:54:49 <pikhq> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE FORTUNE FILE.
03:56:10 <RodgerTheGreat> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE RECURSIVE ACRONYM "DNPTBITRAD"
03:56:24 <pikhq> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE MAGIC DECK.
03:57:34 <RodgerTheGreat> DO NOT PUT THE BABY IN THE INTELLIGENCE DISPOSAL UNIT
04:21:36 <GregorR> RodgerTheGreat: I got the AWESOME T-shirt.
04:21:54 <RodgerTheGreat> <:D
04:26:16 <GregorR> Is that your celebratory dunce hat?
04:26:36 <RodgerTheGreat> no, it's my cone-shaped skull
04:26:43 <RodgerTheGreat> or perhaps a unibrow
04:26:50 <RodgerTheGreat> it is a mystery
04:26:50 <pikhq> No, only *Gregor* gets a celebratory dunce hat.
04:27:00 <pikhq> (actually, you should get a dunce cap, just for the hell of it)
04:28:06 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: so, do we get a picture of you wearing the internet people T-shirt?
04:35:06 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/pics/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=2
04:35:41 <RodgerTheGreat> haha- that's great
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04:37:30 <lament> GregorR: how self-referential
04:38:52 <lament> RodgerTheGreat: a better drawing on the t-shirt on the t-shirt would be the t-shirt drawing.
04:39:06 <RodgerTheGreat> hm
04:39:22 <lament> then GregorR would be now at the end of an infinite tunnel of people from the internet
04:39:32 <RodgerTheGreat> I could draw gregor wearing the shirt, he could order this new shirt and we could repeat the process several times
04:42:40 <GregorR> I LOVE SPENDING MONEY ON THINGS I'LL ONLY USE ONCE
04:42:48 <RodgerTheGreat> heheh
04:43:08 <oklopol> wasn't that a photo of GregorR on the t-shirt? i could've sworn it was
04:43:08 <RodgerTheGreat> actually, it would be pretty hilarious to wear a series of shirts like that in sequence
04:43:13 <GregorR> I did think about getting a blank T-shirt, taking a picture of me wearing that, put the picture onto itself, etc etc, then eventually buying that on Cafepress :P
04:43:14 <oklopol> (just kidding, he's gorgeous)
04:43:19 <oklopol> *georgeous
04:43:21 <oklopol> err
04:43:23 <oklopol> grerorous
04:43:25 <oklopol> hmm
04:43:28 <Sgeo> Grr at anims at the new dilbert.com rejecting linux
04:43:33 <GregorR> georgeous: Similar to Georgia.
04:43:41 <RodgerTheGreat> everyone around you would slowly realize what was happening with the shirts
04:43:50 <GregorR> Sgeo: ?
04:44:02 <RodgerTheGreat> and just when they think they have it figured out, go to work shirtless
04:44:05 <oklopol> GregorR: i was going for similar to george, but i then realized gregor!=george.
04:44:22 <GregorR> RodgerTheGreat: You could do that with iron-on transfers and a box o' inexpensive Ts.
04:44:23 <RodgerTheGreat> "sorry 'bout that- divide by zero error..."
04:44:24 <oklopol> (not even an anagram)
04:44:33 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: good point
04:45:24 <GregorR> RodgerTheGreat: Just don't want to do that with things that should last, since iron-ons ... uh ... don't :P
04:48:52 <oklopol> RodgerTheGreat: by 2-4 tree, did you mean this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-3-4_tree ?
04:48:57 <oklopol> because that's just b
04:49:10 <RodgerTheGreat> yes
04:49:17 <RodgerTheGreat> I never claimed it isn't a B tree
04:49:21 <oklopol> no
04:49:35 <oklopol> but you said it was isomorphic to a rb-tree
04:49:43 <RodgerTheGreat> oklopol: it IS
04:49:46 <oklopol> oh
04:49:52 <oklopol> didn't know that
04:50:02 <RodgerTheGreat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_black_tree#Analogy_to_B-trees_of_order_4
04:50:21 <oklopol> oh, heh, cool
04:50:28 <RodgerTheGreat> yup
04:51:43 <oklopol> especially cool if that isomorphism was found later
04:52:10 <oklopol> i mean, that one of the data structures wasn't just invented on top of the other
04:52:18 <oklopol> but they just turned out to be the same
04:52:37 <RodgerTheGreat> the red-black tree page discusses the origin of the data structure
04:52:49 <oklopol> perhaps i should read that :P
04:52:55 <oklopol> i'm not really into history, though
04:53:03 <RodgerTheGreat> ok
04:53:48 <oklopol> oh
04:54:04 <oklopol> second sentence really answers my ponderings
05:00:10 <RodgerTheGreat> that was pretty much my point
05:00:49 <oklopol> well how was i supposed to know :D
05:01:06 <RodgerTheGreat> by reading
05:01:26 <oklopol> hmm, good point
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05:59:49 <RodgerTheGreat> good night everyone
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14:20:25 <SimonRC> tumtitum
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16:38:02 <RodgerTheGreat> hi
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17:06:30 <SimonRC> RodgerTheGreat: hi
17:06:44 <RodgerTheGreat> hey, SimonRC
17:07:22 <SimonRC> I have found what concatenative languages are really bad at.
17:07:29 <SimonRC> adding a paramater to something
17:07:35 <SimonRC> especially if that parameter is a function
17:08:00 <SimonRC> HoF in Factor, for example, quickly turns into spagghetti
17:08:11 <SimonRC> *turn
17:08:21 <RodgerTheGreat> hm
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19:26:50 <ehird> EsoBot: back yet?
19:26:54 <ehird> whoa, hi clog
19:26:59 <ehird> sorry you missed out on some stuff
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19:27:23 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:27:26 <ehird> EsoBot: ps
19:27:27 <SimonRC> f00fc7c8?
19:27:30 <EsoBot> PID USER COMMAND
19:27:31 <calamari> sorry.. forgot to restart it for ya
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19:28:00 <EsoBot> 184 root [bash]
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19:28:04 <EsoBot> 199 root telnetd -l /bin/bash
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19:28:11 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:28:46 <calamari> btw.. you can msg esobot directly for a new shell
19:28:53 <calamari> then you don't have to spam the channel as much
19:29:27 <calamari> it's nicer too because then you don't need Esobot in front of everything :)
19:29:50 <ehird> calamari, bah!
19:30:01 <ehird> EsoBot: python
19:30:05 <EsoBot> Python 2.4.2 (#3, Apr 13 2008, 20:46:27)
19:30:06 <ehird> EsoBot: import threading
19:30:07 <EsoBot> [GCC 4.2.1] on linux2
19:30:09 <EsoBot> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
19:30:12 <EsoBot> >>> >>>
19:30:16 <ehird> EsoBot: while True:
19:30:21 <EsoBot> ...
19:30:23 <ehird> EsoBot: threading.Thread().start()
19:30:28 <EsoBot> ...
19:30:29 <ehird> EsoBot:
19:30:42 <ehird> calamari, That should work QUITE thoroughly.
19:30:56 <calamari> ehird: you don't need python for that
19:31:03 <calamari> oops
19:31:07 <ehird> calamari, For real threads you do
19:31:08 <calamari> bot error.. lol
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19:31:58 <calamari> pathetic bug.. I should know better
19:32:13 <ehird> calamari, what happened :D
19:32:16 <SimonRC> I will try one next
19:32:35 <calamari> if irc_message[0] == " ":
19:32:35 <calamari> IndexError: string index out of range
19:32:39 <calamari> duh....
19:33:35 <calamari> while it's down, perhaps I'll have it retry the telnet connection if it loses it
19:34:08 <calamari> the biggest part of the code is the vt102 stripping stuff tho, lol
19:34:55 <SimonRC> aren't most terminals a superset of vt102 though?
19:36:14 <calamari> well, I just went off man console_codes
19:36:37 <SimonRC> hmm
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19:43:03 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:43:46 <calamari> pkill telnetd
19:43:54 <calamari> oops
19:43:59 <calamari> EsoBot: pkill telnetd
19:44:27 <calamari> EsoBot: ls
19:44:53 <calamari> interesting.. I guess it takes a while for the connection to die
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19:49:09 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:49:41 <SimonRC> ok...
19:49:45 <SimonRC> EsoBot: ls /proc
19:49:50 <EsoBot> 1 221 cpuinfo kallsyms stat
19:49:51 <EsoBot> 165 27 crypto kcore sys
19:49:54 <EsoBot> 179 3 devices kmsg sysvipc
19:49:56 <EsoBot> 182 30 diskstats loadavg timer_list
19:49:58 <EsoBot> 184 4 dma locks tty
19:49:59 <EsoBot> 187 5 driver meminfo uptime
19:50:01 <EsoBot> 199 60 execdomains misc version
19:50:03 <EsoBot> 2 61 filesystems mounts vmstat
19:50:05 <EsoBot> 206 62 fs net zoneinfo
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19:50:09 <EsoBot> 212 buddyinfo iomem partitions
19:50:11 <EsoBot> 216 bus ioports self
19:50:14 <EsoBot> 218 cmdline irq slabinfo
19:50:17 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:50:18 <SimonRC> ls -ld /proc/kcore
19:50:32 <Deewiant> EsoBot: ls -ld /proc/kcore
19:50:33 <SimonRC> FAIL
19:50:37 <EsoBot> -r-------- 1 root root 33558528 Apr 19 18:50 /proc/kcore
19:50:40 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
19:50:40 <SimonRC> oops, sily me
19:50:43 <SimonRC> right...
19:50:43 <ehird> EsoBot: rm -f /proc/kcore
19:50:48 <EsoBot> rm: cannot remove '/proc/kcore': Operation not permitted
19:50:50 <ehird> EsoBot: cat /proc/kcore
19:50:51 <EsoBot> [bash-3.2] /#
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19:51:02 <SimonRC> hey, thi si my turn
19:51:03 <ehird> EsoBot: echo >/proc/kcore
19:51:03 <Deewiant> EsoBot: su root
19:51:04 <EsoBot> FF0
19:51:06 <EsoBot> !MQ0000 3 .0.8 2 EQUMC -DOR M ,J"CPnf"CPPP~`0
19:51:07 <ehird> SimonRC, we must share!
19:51:08 <EsoBot> P7
19:51:08 <EgoBot> Huh?
19:51:10 <ehird> Deewiant, Already root
19:51:10 <EsoBot> FF0
19:51:13 <EsoBot> oo77|
19:51:15 <Deewiant> ehird: O_o
19:51:16 <EsoBot> 1- t ?Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported.
19:51:18 <EsoBot> Please use a boot loader program instead.
19:51:20 <EsoBot> Remove disk and press any key to reboot . . .
19:51:22 <ehird> Deewiant, It's qemu-sandboxed.
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19:51:26 <Deewiant> ah.
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19:51:33 <SimonRC> I wanted to rty this:
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19:51:36 <calamari> oh for crying out loud you guys
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19:51:41 <ehird> calamari, Shush it's fun
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19:51:47 <Deewiant> 'fun'? :-P
19:51:48 <SimonRC> EsoBot: cat /dev/zero > /proc/kcore
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19:52:25 <SimonRC> I'm in ur sandbox, catting crap
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19:52:29 <Deewiant> um
19:52:33 <ehird> calamari, Yeah put it in #esobot
19:52:34 <Deewiant> kcore was 33 megabytes
19:52:39 <Deewiant> ah, it died already
19:52:49 <ehird> So we don't muck up here!
19:52:54 <calamari> I pkilled it
19:52:56 <Deewiant> alternatively... implement spam limiter
19:52:56 <SimonRC> a channel for all esoteric bots?
19:53:02 <ehird> SimonRC, #esoteric-blah
19:53:10 <ehird> that's my channel
19:53:14 <calamari> the point of this point is NOt to try to destroy it
19:53:25 <calamari> it's for esolang experimentation
19:53:27 <Deewiant> the point of this point is that it's sharp and pokey
19:53:28 <ehird> calamari, Why not just put it in #esoteric-blah and let us have our fun?
19:53:36 <ehird> Honestly, if you want us to not abuse a shell, DON'T PUT ONE UP
19:53:41 <ehird> We already have EgoBot for esolangs
19:54:44 <calamari> exercise some self control
19:55:01 <ehird> calamari, The only use this channel has for a shell bot is to toy around with it.
19:55:06 <ehird> There is absolutely nothing else it does for us.
19:55:18 <calamari> ehird: really?
19:55:25 <ehird> calamari, Pretty much
19:55:34 <ehird> But it is a load of fun, so please keep it up ;)
19:55:40 <calamari> it has python.. you can code pretty much any esolang you want in that
19:55:54 <ehird> calamari, But nobody wants to.
19:55:54 <calamari> I could add a c compiler.. working on that actually
19:56:02 <ehird> calamari, No point.
19:56:08 <ehird> Now let us have our fun ;))
19:56:08 <calamari> I'm not sure you speak for everyone
19:56:35 <ehird> calamari, Everyone here has just played with it.
19:56:59 <SimonRC> indeed
19:57:09 <ehird> Nothing wrong with that.
19:57:20 <ehird> EgoBot works great, a simple irc bot is easier ... giving people python code is even easier
19:57:25 <ehird> It has no niche apart from some fun toying.
19:57:27 <ehird> But at that it's good.
19:58:21 <ehird> Now get it in #esoteric-blah because it's fun.. please? ;)
20:00:07 <calamari> ehird: by destorying it you prove nothing.. there is no challenge
20:00:18 <calamari> ehird: you're root.. game over
20:00:21 <ehird> calamari, It's fun to find new ways to do it.
20:00:32 <ehird> Besides, putting myself in a user-jail and breaking it from there sounds like something I'd do
20:01:08 <calamari> have fun writing chroot then
20:01:50 <ehird> calamari, writing chroot isn't hard
20:01:59 <ehird> now please put it up ;))
20:02:16 <calamari> I guess I need to add user accounts
20:03:03 <ehird> calamari, nooo!
20:03:06 <ehird> just make it auto-restore
20:03:15 <calamari> could still fork bomb it.. but that's about it
20:03:25 <ehird> if the telnet breaks, autorestore and reconnect
20:03:32 <ehird> calamari, if you make it unbreakable, nobody will use it for much
20:03:35 <ehird> beacuse it's all its fun/useful for
20:03:55 <calamari> according to whom?
20:04:04 <calamari> I'd like to use it for esolang experimentation
20:04:20 <Deewiant> why do you need to do it on IRC? :-P
20:04:23 <ehird> calamari, why can't you just personally use python locally?
20:04:25 <ehird> exactly
20:04:29 <ehird> nobody else is using it for experimentation
20:04:32 <ehird> we're just having fun breaking it
20:04:34 <ehird> and it IS fun
20:04:54 <calamari> Deewiant: that argument is equally applicable to EgoBot
20:05:13 <ehird> calamari, no it is not
20:05:17 <Deewiant> I know nothing of EgoBot
20:05:22 <calamari> you can run all those elsolangs locally
20:05:59 <ehird> But that is NOT the point
20:06:29 <calamari> yes it is actually.. the idea was that you could create your esolang in a private chat with esobot, then execute i
20:06:36 <calamari> t like with Egobot, publically
20:07:22 <calamari> I thought I'd made it obvious that hacking wasn't necessary, because you are root
20:07:38 <ehird> calamari, absolutely no point: When it's just a shell, I have one right here.
20:10:56 <ehird> anyway
20:11:03 <ehird> calamari, put it in #esoteric-blah once you get the C compiler up
20:11:06 <ehird> a whole new world of fun :)
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20:21:43 <Sgeo> ehird, cal's bot is iun #esobot
20:21:56 <Sgeo> Or at least was a while ago
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20:45:46 <ehird> Hey SimonRC
20:45:56 <ehird> EsoBot wasn't responding in channel
20:46:00 <ehird> calamari said I would have to fix it
20:46:08 <ehird> So I wrote my own arbitary execution bot: http://rafb.net/p/VOZdO641.txt
20:46:13 <ehird> Then tried to 'wget' it on the esobot
20:46:15 <ehird> ... no dns!
20:46:23 <ehird> so I had to upload it to my server, get the ip, download it from there
20:46:28 <ehird> then change hte server to the ip
20:46:31 <ehird> and THEN run it from inside esobot
20:46:33 <ehird> and THEN it worked
20:48:27 <calamari> trying to catch a few more exceptions... shouldn't be long now
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22:25:28 <UnrelatedToQaz> hey all
22:27:47 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: ello
22:34:06 <UnrelatedToQaz> "i hate california" is such a great song...
22:34:44 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: is this RelatedToEsotericProgrammingLangauges
22:40:15 <UnrelatedToQaz> hmm?
22:40:18 <UnrelatedToQaz> oh, sorry
22:40:44 <UnrelatedToQaz> i meant "java" is such a great language
22:40:48 <UnrelatedToQaz> (seriously)
22:41:36 <oerjan> i think saying that _might_ be a bannable offense in #haskell.
22:42:18 <UnrelatedToQaz> what if I say "i mean, it's so obfusticated and esoteric and weird"?
22:42:27 <UnrelatedToQaz> will they forgive me?
22:42:44 <oerjan> maybe if you put it in one line
22:43:23 <oerjan> otherwise you won't get time to say it
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23:00:21 * UnrelatedToQaz does some research
23:00:35 <UnrelatedToQaz> so Haskell was basically the Esperanto of functional programming languages?
23:00:44 <UnrelatedToQaz> (based on http://darcs.haskell.org/yaht/yaht.pdf)
23:00:53 <UnrelatedToQaz> p3
23:06:34 <oerjan> heh
23:06:57 <oerjan> strongly typed, lazy functional ones
23:07:15 <oerjan> *statically
23:11:26 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: was? is
23:11:32 <ehird> it is used for practical things.
23:11:49 <ehird> it has a very active community (for a non-major language)
23:12:00 <UnrelatedToQaz> sorry
23:12:09 <UnrelatedToQaz> reading history sections always does that to me
23:13:00 * UnrelatedToQaz continues reading
23:13:24 <UnrelatedToQaz> no! my precious side-effects and destructive updates! how shall I cope without them
23:13:41 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: happier.
23:15:48 <UnrelatedToQaz> ehird: I'm getting the sense that you like Haskell
23:16:03 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: So does oerjan. ;)
23:16:18 <ehird> also
23:16:23 <ehird> #haskell - 437 people
23:16:28 <ehird> #ruby-lang - 329
23:16:30 <ehird> QED
23:16:40 <UnrelatedToQaz> ...
23:16:59 <UnrelatedToQaz> that would be a more effective argument if I knew what ruby was
23:17:02 * UnrelatedToQaz ducks
23:17:11 <ehird> BREAKING NEWS: UnrelatedToQaz found living under rock.
23:17:26 <UnrelatedToQaz> i know, i know
23:17:39 <UnrelatedToQaz> i seem to have missed the start of this whole thing
23:17:50 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: ruby is a moderately good language that has got a lot of WEB TWO POINT OHH buzz lately
23:17:56 <ehird> for http://rubyonrails.org this web framewor
23:17:57 <ehird> k
23:17:59 <UnrelatedToQaz> i think i turned the wrong way at unlambda
23:18:07 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: Sun are supporting it etc
23:18:14 <ehird> Tim O'Reilly jumped on the bandwagon
23:18:20 <ehird> It's big right now.
23:18:34 <UnrelatedToQaz> ehird: but not as big as haskell?
23:18:53 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: kind of a cheat - #ruby has 196 people
23:18:55 <ehird> So add 'em up...
23:18:57 <ehird> But even so..
23:19:00 <ehird> Haskell is very alive.
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23:19:33 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: Try asking in #haskell!
23:19:37 <ehird> It's friendly
23:19:45 <UnrelatedToQaz> it would be even more alive if this thing would download ghc
23:20:18 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: if you are, get a binary
23:20:28 <ehird> GHC compilation 1. requires a copy of GHC 2. takes around 6 hours
23:20:59 <Slereah> HASKEEEEEEEEEEEELL!
23:21:13 <ehird> Haskell scares Slereah.
23:21:17 <ehird> He tried to learn it once.
23:21:19 <Slereah> RAAAARGH
23:21:24 <Slereah> Heh.
23:21:28 <UnrelatedToQaz> he still has the scars?
23:21:34 <oerjan> he got stuck in a monad and never got out
23:21:45 <Slereah> Oh you.
23:21:50 <UnrelatedToQaz> Sounds like an episode of "The Prisoner".
23:22:29 <ehird> UnrelatedToQaz: Whenever you read 'monad', think 'warm fuzzy thing'.
23:22:30 <ehird> That is all.
23:24:19 <Slereah> But monads aren't warm or fuzzy D:
23:24:30 <Slereah> They are cold and hard.
23:24:48 <oerjan> LIES
23:26:03 <UnrelatedToQaz> aha, download's done
23:26:08 <Slereah> I got Mathematica 6 today.
23:26:16 <UnrelatedToQaz> now to endure the slownss of windows install
23:26:17 <Slereah> I hope it is awesome and all.
23:26:21 <RodgerTheGreat> cool
23:26:28 <RodgerTheGreat> I liked mathematica 5
23:26:54 <UnrelatedToQaz> slereah: I've heard of Mathematica! Is the new one good?
23:27:44 <Slereah> well, I just got it
23:27:51 <Slereah> Haven't had time to really try it out
23:28:00 <ehird> mathematica = wolfram
23:28:03 <ehird> so i am skeptical
23:28:18 <Slereah> Well, it is good and simple to do math
23:29:28 <Slereah> Not sure about programming on it though
23:33:45 <ehird> Slereah: $$$$
23:33:56 <Slereah> ehird : $0
23:34:20 <ehird> Slereah: Lucky.
23:34:42 <Slereah> No.
23:34:43 <Slereah> http://www.torrentz.com/dd1c50393c5a7a8c7f9cf59d9051f35e4a0468ee
23:34:48 <ehird> oic.
23:35:01 <ehird> is der a lunix ??
23:35:21 <Slereah> I dunno.
23:35:38 <Slereah> Probably.
23:59:36 <SimonRC> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-downloadMonitor/user_uploads/model_view_controller_song.mp3
23:59:48 <SimonRC> hmm
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