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00:08:23 <ehird> {}_: why ask a question that you know you won't be around to read the reply to?
00:08:41 <{}_> ehird, there is log tomorrow *turns off screen*
00:08:56 <ehird> 1. you fail at grammar 2. you don't logread
00:09:21 <Deewiant> Logs exist, although I think it's a bit impolite to ask something and then say essentially "just write it down and I'll read it later".
00:18:23 <ehird> Except tomorrow he'll read the logs to see if I've answered and I won't have
00:18:41 <ehird> WHAT'S THAT BUDDHISTS? KARMA REFERS TO THE ACTION ITSELF WHICH IS ITS OWN PUNISHMENT?
00:18:46 <ehird> THINK I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG BITCHES
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00:37:51 <ehird> have you ever felt the need to middle click and drag?
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01:00:09 <ehird> MOST RIDICULOUS GENRE: Steamphunk
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01:49:44 <ehird> "Rupert Murdoch has said he will try to block Google from using news content from his companies."
01:49:56 <ehird> you know, the internet has an abundance of perfectly good guns he could use to shoot himself in the foot
01:50:08 <ehird> why is he taking the scenic route?
01:50:35 <ehird> ("There's a doctrine called 'fair use', which we believe to be challenged in the courts and would bar it altogether," Mr Murdoch told the TV channel. "But we'll take that slowly.")
01:50:52 * Sgeo cries as he installs Visual C++ 2008 Express
01:51:40 <ehird> http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,26182164-5014090,00.html
01:51:41 <ehird> EXPLAIN YOURSELF, ANMASTER
01:51:43 <ehird> Sgeo: so don't do it.
01:52:06 <Sgeo> If g++ would work with the AW SDK on Windows, I wouldn't
01:52:22 <ehird> You probably did something wrong.
01:52:32 <Sgeo> But I can't figure out what
01:52:33 <ehird> Besides, most such picky old things are VC6 only.
01:52:50 <Sgeo> I think it was developed in VC6
01:53:27 * ehird hopes the old Logitech TrackMan Marble is PS/2, not serial
01:53:37 <ehird> I have a PS/2→USB adapter that should work, but no serial→anything adapter.
02:12:48 <Sgeo> And.. it works in VC++2008Express
02:12:57 <Sgeo> Guess what I'm going to be using from now on
02:16:12 <Sgeo> (At least for AW related stuff
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02:28:43 <Sgeo> Y is altitude, not north/south
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03:04:22 <ehird> fizzy fizzly fizzie
03:06:26 <Sgeo> A program using the AW SDK: http://codepad.org/YonOAnaM
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03:21:48 <ehird> ugh, declarations not at the start of the function
03:21:58 <ehird> you suck! also sleep time now
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05:05:43 <immibis> "bill gates is so rich, he had to pay the bank to convert all their software to use 64-bit integers"
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05:57:47 <MizardX> Doesn't the banks use a decimal system for storing money amounts?
06:04:12 <mad> Dunno, they probably did use binary coded decimal, dunno if they still do
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07:50:36 <{}_> <ehird> Except tomorrow he'll read the logs to see if I've answered and I won't have <-- indeed.
07:51:03 <{}_> <ehird> 1. you fail at grammar 2. you don't logread <-- actually I do look for highlights. Apart from that I don't usually log read
07:51:16 <{}_> usually don't*
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18:19:49 <oerjan> huh no one has spoken for 10 hours
18:20:24 <oklopol> but actually a few people have spoken on other channels
18:20:33 <oerjan> yes but thinking doesn't count
18:20:45 <oerjan> context, oklopol, context
18:21:00 <fax> I was going for 12 hours :(
18:21:17 <oerjan> oklopol: this channel is the context
18:21:31 <oklopol> but... how could i have known
18:21:51 <oerjan> that's what we use when not speaking for hours
18:22:12 <oklopol> anyway i'm beginning to see this fever as a good thing
18:22:40 <oklopol> it makes math much more interesting, because everything even slightly nontrivial requires like a two hour thinking session
18:23:12 <fax> how does that not just mae you study math you already know??
18:24:14 <oerjan> ah but he _thinks_ he doesn't know it
18:24:22 <oerjan> so it's still exciting
18:24:31 <fax> swine fever!
18:24:52 <oklopol> what did you mean by that "mae" thing
18:25:06 <oklopol> well you meant "mean", but i mean by the the sentence
18:25:07 <oerjan> oklopol: mae west, obviously
18:25:52 * oerjan thought "make", actually, but "mean" makes more sense, although a more unlikely typo
18:25:58 <oklopol> exercises aren't always easy even without a fever, i don't see how that'd mean i already know all the math
18:26:18 <oklopol> yeah maybe make, let's see if i understand it then
18:26:52 <oklopol> with "make"... you might mean if everything looks hard, i might accidentally start solving something i've already solved?
18:27:06 <oklopol> also i just solve what they give me
18:27:37 <oklopol> and yes i think i have swine fever
18:27:39 <fax> I wish I was as motivated as you
18:28:25 <oklopol> because i never get sick, i need a reason for being sick now.
18:29:10 <oklopol> also i have all the symptoms... but i'm not sure any of them actually separate it from the usual codenameless sicknesses
18:30:13 <oklopol> a good source of motivation is the fear of not being the best
18:30:38 <oklopol> also a great source of depression, i suppose
18:30:55 <oklopol> i actually took medicine for it yesterday
18:31:53 <oklopol> drugs should only be used for their side-effects
18:32:02 <fax> If you know you aren't and will never be best how do you get motivated anyway?
18:32:17 <fax> not /you/, I mean "one"
18:33:44 <oklopol> to find something you're the best at, you just need to be at the pareto frontier.
18:34:20 <oerjan> {}_: D&D (especially the last annotation line :D)
18:34:49 <oklopol> just take something you are the best at, and think of everything else as getting better at that artificial thing
18:35:03 <oklopol> i have a few of those i don't share with people
18:35:06 <oerjan> oklopol: he's feeling symbolic, clearly
18:35:37 <oklopol> can you understand my sentences? communication is hard
18:35:51 <oklopol> i ordered pizza a few hours ago
18:35:56 <oerjan> oklopol: it perfectly is to understand well may
18:35:59 <oklopol> and the guy asked what the pin code for the house is
18:36:08 <oklopol> and i told him the pin code for my credit card
18:36:55 <oklopol> also i ordered the wrong pizza, said "mir", which is the name of the place, instead of the pizza i actually wanted to order
18:37:22 <oklopol> (not my only mix-ups today, just during that phone call)
18:38:40 <oerjan> mir? russian pizza world?
18:39:47 <oerjan> mir has to be russian. it's probably secretly owned by russian mafia. thus further irony as mir also means "peace"
18:39:49 <oklopol> the owner is a stereotypical kebabian dude
18:40:37 <oerjan> ok maybe it means something in turkish too. let me google...
18:40:58 <oklopol> it means "for me" in german
18:41:07 <oklopol> well "me" in dative anyway
18:41:43 <oklopol> geben sie mir EINEN GROSSEN PIZZA
18:42:20 <oerjan> ah well kebab was invented by turkish germans, so...
18:43:21 <oklopol> huh no one has spoken for 10 seconds
18:44:42 <{}_> oerjan, and iwc
18:44:51 <{}_> didn't notice you join
18:45:05 <{}_> read it hours ago
18:45:10 <{}_> didn't see you in here then
18:47:56 <{}_> oerjan, you weren't invisible‽‽‽
18:50:35 <oerjan> i don't know that you can be invisible in a channel...
18:51:08 <oerjan> i'm always +i, of course
18:53:39 <{}_> <oerjan> i don't know that you can be invisible in a channel... <-- you can?
18:54:00 <FireFly> I assume {}_ is AnMaster, though I wonder why the nick?
18:54:20 <FireFly> Yup, apparently it was AnMaster
18:54:21 <oerjan> {}_: reading comprehension fail
18:54:52 <oerjan> hint, there is no missing comma
18:55:11 <{}_> read it as "didn't"
18:55:14 <{}_> that was the issue
18:55:16 <{}_> FireFly, why not
18:55:37 <FireFly> Well, dunno, it looks odd, that's why
18:55:53 <FireFly> Have you registered that nick while you're at it?
18:56:01 <oerjan> FireFly: look at the bright side, now he looks more swattable than you -----###
18:56:49 <oerjan> he's identified so it must be registered. or?
18:57:16 <FireFly> I think he can sign in for AnMaster without grouping/registering the {}_ nickname
18:57:21 <FireFly> Though I'm not sure, you may be right
18:57:49 <oerjan> hm but then how do we see whether he is registered with that nick...
18:58:00 <FireFly> I guess we can ask NickServ
18:58:23 -!- oerjan has changed nick to test135.
18:58:37 <FireFly> [19:58:25] [PRIVMSG >>> NickServ]: info {}_
18:58:37 <FireFly> [19:58:26] NickServ [NickServ@services.]: Information on {}_ (account AnMaster):
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18:58:42 <FireFly> Seems like he grouped the nick
18:59:08 <{}_> FireFly, yes why?
18:59:14 <oerjan> when i change nick, it says i'm signed on, but not that i'm identified
18:59:52 <{}_> okay can someone say "AnMaster"
18:59:55 <FireFly> Hmm, I guess you're right, oerjan
18:59:58 <{}_> so I can see if the highlight works
19:00:13 <{}_> try again?
19:00:22 <oerjan> AnMaster: not a chance
19:00:36 * {}_ has to read manual instead of guess for a likely settings
19:01:45 <{}_> FireFly, again?
19:02:24 <FireFly> Is it case insensitive? whataboutanmasterthis?
19:03:54 <{}_> insine works doesn't work
19:03:56 <{}_> check case
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19:09:53 <fungot> {}_: a standard argument for it, it is just a " grass is greener on the other hand, often include highly analyzing optimizing compilers and highly optimized run-time systems.
19:10:03 <fax> fungot, style
19:10:04 <fungot> fax: then there's the new eso website
19:10:10 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube
19:10:27 <fizzie> "Grass is greener on the other hand", a nice combino-idiom.
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19:12:19 <{}_> fizzie, the last part is verbitime I assume?
19:12:28 <{}_> "often include highly analyzing optimizing compilers and highly optimized run-time systems."
19:12:37 <{}_> fizzie, from what channel?
19:12:44 <{}_> hi ais523 btw
19:13:56 <fizzie> {}_: [2004-05-15 23:58:45] < Riastradh> Erlang as a language is not designed for intense computation. SML systems, on the other hand, often include highly analyzing & optimizing compilers and highly optimized run-time systems.
19:14:02 <fizzie> {}_: Freenode's #scheme.
19:14:34 <fizzie> The & got completely stripped out during some phase.
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19:50:02 <ais523> {}_: I find your name impossible to mentally pronounce
19:52:13 <pikhq> {}_: I find your name impossible to parse in Tcl syntax.
19:52:18 <fizzie> ais523: You will have to refer to him as "the artist formerly known as AnMaster".
20:29:17 <{}_> ais523, great!
20:29:25 <{}_> <pikhq> {}_: I find your name impossible to parse in Tcl syntax. <-- wow
20:29:36 <{}_> fizzie, what?
20:29:38 <{}_> why artist?
20:29:51 * {}_ guesses it was a monty python reference
20:30:19 <{}_> ais523, would []_ be better?
20:30:32 <ais523> but not by enough to matter
20:30:53 <{}_> ais523, what do you call a { in english now again, slipped my mind
20:31:03 <ais523> brace, or possibly curly bracket
20:31:10 <{}_> "klammer-bracket" just seems so Swinglish
20:31:24 <{}_> (Swedish + English, maybe Swenglish?)
20:31:58 <{}_> ais523, so my name is: "opening curly bracket closing curly bracket underscore"
20:32:08 <{}_> how is that impossible to pronounce?
20:33:03 <{}_> ais523, it isn't my fault [] {} [ ] { } are all taken
20:33:44 <{}_> * |||| :Erroneous Nickname
20:33:49 <{}_> that doesn't make sense
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20:37:23 <{}_> indeed it is allowed
20:37:23 -!- a|b has changed nick to |aha|.
20:37:32 <{}_> so why isn't four of them
20:37:38 <{}_> and ||| is registered
20:37:41 <{}_> same for || and |
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20:39:50 <fizzie> {}_: It was a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_%28musician%29 -- see the "also known as" entry in the infobox, and the first paragraph of the actual article.
20:40:38 <{}_> fizzie, but isn't that one a monty python reference?
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20:40:46 <{}_> unless I'm completely mistaken
20:41:20 <{}_> "The knights formerly known as The Knights of Ni" or something like that (modulo exact phrase)
20:43:51 <fizzie> {}_: No. According to Wikipedia, they were "The Knights Who 'Til Recently Said Ni", which is a bit different; but in the 2004 musical Spamalot, they've been renamed to "The artists formerly known as the Knights who say Ni" as a reference to Prince.
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20:44:29 <fizzie> Of course you could speculate that the "formerly known" thing was a reference to the "'til recently" bit of Holy Grail, but that's not completely obvious, at least.
20:45:02 <{}_> fizzie, oh
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20:55:38 <MizardX> Heh. They're still having trouble with that... "Nick collision from syn."
20:56:27 <FireFly> Well, uh, the one being discussed, not the one of the channel
20:56:48 <AnMaster> not sure about that. And {0}_ was reported erroneous
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21:03:24 <{}_> ais523, btw isn't my nick valid C with the right #define?
21:03:26 <{}_> well not alone
21:04:12 <{}_> like: #define _ /*NOOP*/\nwhile 0 {}_
21:04:26 <{}_> (inside some function)
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21:12:28 <{}_> Deewiant, indeed
21:12:41 <{}_> Deewiant, no define even
21:15:16 <{}_> Deewiant, don't be sarcastic. I was being impressed of that idea.
21:15:34 * {}_ tries to find the English word for "beröm"
21:15:36 * {}_ looks at FireFly
21:17:33 <{}_> praise would be better in this case yeah
21:22:08 <{}_> ais523, what is my nick with intercal char names now again?
21:22:22 <ais523> I'm not sure, { and } aren't used in INTERCAL
21:22:41 <{}_> ais523, what about [] ?
21:22:44 <ais523> (are { and } even /in/ EBCDIC)
21:22:49 <ais523> and [ is a u-turn, I think
21:22:52 <ais523> with ] being a u-turn-back
21:27:13 <Deewiant> In Funge-98 your nick's the rather unwieldy "begin block end block east-west if"
21:28:41 <ais523> []_ would be three conditionals in a row
21:28:45 <{}_> Deewiant, yeah.
21:28:52 <{}_> ais523, no?
21:28:54 <ais523> hmm... or rather, not, because there's be no way to flow through all three in a row
21:29:05 <{}_> ais523, ] and [ are turn in befunge
21:29:06 <ais523> oh, ofc, [ and ] just turn unconditonally
21:29:25 <ais523> I was muddled with Sansism's G
21:29:59 <Deewiant> "turn left turn right east-west if"
21:30:49 * {}_ ponders the nick \hphantom{} but decides against it
21:30:59 <{}_> (anyone else should feel free to register it)
21:31:18 <{}_> (you could do other short latex code snippets as well)
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21:53:43 <fizzie> Deewiant: Hello, fingerprint-defined D push 14 push 14 compare input file push 10 clear stack split.
21:54:43 <Deewiant> Good day to you too, push 15 input file no operation no operation input file push 14!
21:55:22 <{}_> "The GeForce 200 Series is the tenth generation of NVIDIA's GeForce graphics processing units. The series also represents the continuation of the company's unified shader architecture introduced with the GeForce 8 Series and the GeForce 9 Series."
21:55:45 <{}_> isn't that lower than 6000 even
21:55:50 * {}_ fails to see the logic
21:55:57 <fizzie> This reminds me a bit of the A.I. name-pronouncing convetion of Schlock Mercenary; explained in the note of http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20060419.html
21:56:46 <fizzie> The numbers are best treated as meaningless symbols instead of, you know, numbers.
21:57:02 <fizzie> Certainly "200" is a lot more than "8" or "9" (since they're called "series 8" and "series 9").
21:58:45 <fizzie> Though I guess you could argue the new series should be called the "GeForce 0.2 series" then.
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21:59:22 <{}_> fizzie, you could. But it would be pointless
21:59:28 <{}_> since there is no reason to it
21:59:42 <{}_> fizzie, no series 100?
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22:37:26 <fizzie> {}_: IIRC, there is a "series 100", but it was some sort of OEM-only "pretty much geforce 9 with a new name" budget thing.
22:38:21 <fizzie> For example http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_120_us.html "OEM Product", "Not available for individual purchase".
22:48:31 <fizzie> Oh noes, there is an IMPERFECTION in the holy Wikipedia. (Someone has moved -- on Nov 1 -- the GeForce 100 series table from "GeForce 200 Series" into "GeForce 9 Series", without fixing the "GeForce 100 Series" => "GeForce 200 Series#OEM GeForce 100" redirect. I'd fix it myself, but there's a messy "no, they belong to this article" paragraph in the 200-series talk page, and I don't know how these Wiki-things go.)
22:56:55 <fizzie> oklopol: An anointed number.
22:58:57 <oklopol> i just saw that in the other direction in buffy the vampire slayer
22:59:05 <oklopol> there was this anointed one
22:59:13 <oklopol> and spike called him the annoying one and killed him
23:00:03 <fizzie> 1. anoint -- (choose by or as if by divine intervention; "She was anointed the head of the Christian fundamentalist group")
23:00:12 <fizzie> Funky "as if by" variant there.
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23:16:09 <M_Budgie> Does anyone know if there's a language made entirely out of pokemon references?
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23:51:07 <Sgeo> So, anyone try Go?
23:52:36 <Gregor> Go is go is go is go is go is go is go is go is go is go is go is go is MUSHROOM MUSHROOM.
23:53:10 <Sgeo> I meant the language
23:56:27 <fax> I don't like Go
23:58:47 <Sgeo> Too many ways to initialize a variable? (Just reading through the tutorial now)