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00:09:53 <^v> vifino, y u do dis
00:10:02 <ds84182> vifino, I will kill you back on espernet... just you wait
00:10:03 <^v> also, y u in dis channel
00:10:09 <^v> he is here too
00:10:17 <^v> who else is CC/OC and is in here >_>
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00:10:22 <vifino> ^v: #tired and bored and bored, and bored
00:10:25 <Bike> so what's next on the agenda. ar ewe going to roleplay as horny raccoons? play some runescape, perhaps
00:10:43 * ^v and vifino friends
00:11:03 <Bike> damn elliott this seems a bit abstract. maybe if you were less metaphorical with your orders.
00:12:06 <^v> ds84182, <[.<]$$$,$[~@~)~{~[+@~[{$~]~*{$<*<]{$@@{$@.
00:12:48 <elliott> before you send a line, consider whether you are contributing or adding to the signal-noise ratio of the channel
00:12:55 <elliott> except flip one of those words
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00:13:35 <^v> vifino, >_> diddnt i tell you how to optimize that
00:14:19 <ds84182> Haha. Xihcute is where it's at
00:14:22 <^v> you can steal my text to bf db table >_>
00:14:31 <vifino> its encoder is atleast a bit more efficient
00:14:44 <ds84182> that reminds me, I have to make a new version of Xihcute to do everything better.
00:17:27 <vifino> ds84182: That reminds me to implement some bettur things in my webserver
00:17:43 <vifino> Its fancy, it werks great
00:17:44 <ds84182> how does my esolang remind you of a webserver
00:18:05 <vifino> ds84182: Everything reminds me of the things i am working on
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03:14:47 <zzo38> When scanning tokens from standard input should you ever need more than one lookahead?
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03:30:25 <zzo38> Do you have any documents more than 65535 pages long, or with any pages taller or wider than eighteen feet?
03:31:50 <Bike> Does multivolume count as one document
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03:39:26 <zzo38> I would think usually not
03:40:34 <Bike> no, then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marguerite_Young_with_manuscript.jpg only 1200 pages (though the manuscript is proably longer)
04:04:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Ligature Machine]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40133&oldid=40126 * Zzo38 * (+113)
04:23:04 <zzo38> There is a computational class, but can you also define I/O classes?
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05:13:33 <zzo38> I don't quite know really, but, presumably I/O class could compare Ligature Machine and Finite State Transducer and Finite State Machine, for example. As well as such things as programming language that might be Turing-complete but cannot do I/O at all, or only a finite amount of output, or whatever like that
05:14:44 <zzo38> Or can only output a subset of its input, etc
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08:05:01 <oerjan> ^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+.[-]++++++++++[>+++<-]>++.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+++++++.[-]
08:05:14 <oerjan> !bf ++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+.[-]++++++++++[>+++<-]>++.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+++++++.[-]
08:05:32 <oerjan> !bf ++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+.[-]++++++++++[>+++<-]>++.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+++++++.[-]
08:05:50 <oerjan> myndzi: psst we already have a !bf command recognizer in the channel hth
08:06:18 * oerjan reflectively tries /whois to check if myndzi is idle. oh wait...
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08:08:49 <oerjan> interesting how english has both reflexive and reflective with different meanings
08:09:33 <oerjan> `interp bf8 ++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+.[-]++++++++++[>+++<-]>++.[-]++++++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>+++++++.[-]
08:12:37 <oerjan> fizzie: fungot failure found, fix forthtwith
08:12:58 * oerjan could not find a synonym for "please" starting with f
08:13:13 <oerjan> i knew that looked wrong
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08:19:51 <oerjan> zzo38: we've been using bf-complete before to mean "language that can do all i/o brainfuck can"
08:26:55 <oerjan> although i'm not sure it's entirely unambigous whether that includes interactivity
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08:34:42 <fungot> fizzie: although i admit it, you're not limited to for clauses.
08:35:16 <oerjan> well for clauses have nearly all the power of monads, it's not that bad
08:36:25 <fizzie> The power of monad compels you.
08:38:44 <shachaf> u r limited 2 4 preposition
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17:42:03 <zzo38> The following grammar is not LALR(1): s -> LPAREN exp1 RPAREN. s -> LBRACKET exp1 RBRACKET. s -> LPAREN exp2 RBRACKET. s -> LBRACKET exp2 RPAREN. exp1 -> ID. exp2 -> ID.
17:43:05 <zzo38> According to a book I have, it is LR(1) though. What I want to know is how could I fix Lemon to add ability to not combine states for some lookaheads so that with the correct options it will be able to use this input?
17:45:40 <zzo38> (This example is a bit silly since it is particularly easy to work-around, by having one left-delimiters symbol, one right-delimiters symbol, and move the actions to s to have a if block to check whether or not they match.)
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23:26:01 * Sgeo wonders if it was a bad idea to point someone newish to programming looking at Ruby for web purposes towards Sinatra
23:27:51 <Sgeo> get '/foo', :agent => /Songbird (\d\.\d)[\d\/]*?/ do
23:27:59 <Sgeo> Hmm, not really a fan of its arbitrary renaming of user-agent
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23:33:09 <Sgeo> help Ruby is giving me a useless 'where is the hygiene' anxiety attack looking at things like request in get blocks
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23:45:48 <Sgeo> Just saw a snippit on Ruby's main page, feel sick
23:46:11 <Bike> take a deep breath
23:46:18 <Sgeo> http://codepad.org/tnqVIU4y
23:46:40 <Sgeo> say['love']... what is that doing here? Searching for the appropriate substring? Is each word indexed separately? What?
23:47:10 <Bike> do you want me to tell you about experimental 1970s surgery on cats
23:48:35 <Bike> okay, so, most of the time experimental cats were (are, probably, i'm not an animal person) gotten from pounds and stuff, or more generally just as adults, so there was some worry that their physiology might be "damaged" by normal life experience, making them a bit hard to generalize
23:49:04 <Bike> so for this experiment they got some kittens and raised them entirely in a soundproofed chamber. they could still hear each other and talk but they wouldn't be exposed to loud noises or anything
23:49:41 <Bike> the idea being to avoid hearing damage
23:50:16 <Bike> when they grew up they cut holes in their skulls and inserted electrodes into their cochleas to record synaptic responses from the spiral ganglion
23:51:13 <Bike> for one, they got a noise generator, set it to 108 dB (equiv. to standing next to a car horn) and left it on for two hours to see the effects
23:51:18 <Bike> it clumped spontaneous firing rates.
23:52:14 <Sgeo> How do you generalize from that though? Maybe they're missing normal cat visual stimulus?
23:52:56 <Bike> it was hearing research. vision is someone else's department.
23:55:34 <Bike> i'm glad you (alluded to) ask(ing). you see, nerves in the spiral ganglion sometimes fire off spikes in the total absence of stimulation from the hair cells. Each fiber seems to have a different spontaneous firing rate, varying from 0.1 to 100 spike/sec in cats. (different in other animals because lol.) usually the distribution of firing rates is mostly (but not entirely) even across central frequencies of the hair cells, but after the traum
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23:55:57 <Sgeo> traum obviously.
23:56:43 <Sgeo> (aka Bike I think you got cut off)
23:56:55 <Bike> yeah. i don't care though.
23:59:48 <monotone> Sgeo: You can index into Ruby strings by substring or regular expression. And mutate the slice, of course.