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00:06:08 <HackEgo> Your esteemoologist wise mementolwrd oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
00:06:30 * boily has doubts about oerjan's glaswegianity...
00:09:03 <HackEgo> "Only sane man" boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
00:09:48 * oerjan has doubts about boily's brotherhood scheme
00:10:24 <oerjan> boily: i'm a confirmed
00:11:23 <oerjan> now even the blind can use neoletters?
00:11:35 <\oren\> now, I just need some way to indicate which pixel is selected
00:12:18 <oerjan> also, ' is confirmed way too close to the return key.
00:12:53 <boily> you're definitely 'wegian (with a capital “'”), and “'” is Shift-, hth.
00:13:42 <boily> the Scheme with the Brother is still being schemed.
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00:16:54 <lambdabot> ENVA 242350Z 09004KT 9999 FEW016 BKN023 01/01 Q1016 RMK WIND 670FT 15012KT
00:17:25 <lambdabot> CYYZ 250000Z 32004KT 6SM -DZ BR OVC008 03/02 A3015 RMK NS8 SLP219
00:17:34 <lambdabot> Local time for \oren\ is Fri Nov 25 00:18:57 2016
00:17:48 <oerjan> that ... seems unlikely.
00:17:57 <oerjan> \oren\: you appear to be on UTC hth
00:18:25 <\oren\> well, it's time for me to go eat things anyway
00:18:44 <oerjan> also, to set your TZ variable
00:20:27 <oerjan> hm, i don't seem to have any. i guess the server has the right setting.
00:22:22 <lambdabot> CYUL 250000Z 04009KT 4SM -SN FEW006 OVC020 00/M01 A3024 RMK SF2SC6 SLP245
00:22:27 <lambdabot> Local time for boily is Thu, 24 Nov 2016 19:22:24 -0500
00:22:37 <boily> \oren\ is one hour earlier than me.
00:23:09 <lambdabot> KOAK 242353Z 30010KT 10SM SCT250 14/08 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP217 T01440078 10156 20122 56015 $
00:23:21 <boily> looks like shachafland is dry and warm.
00:24:08 <hppavilion[0]> boily: No, "'" is [dkl;]<space>, where symbols in [...] are pressed simultaneously
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00:24:51 <boily> nope, doesn't work.
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00:25:09 <boily> it's you, being yourself.
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00:25:53 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, I have a second hexchat running in a buggy can't-see-that-it's-open mode
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00:28:22 <boily> ;dklk;dldlk;dlk;dlk;dlk;dlk;dlk;dk;ldlk;k;dllk;d
00:28:23 <hppavilion[1]> (though in retrospect, [sjkl]<space> would make more sense)
00:28:34 <boily> sjlklsjksjlkjslksjlksjlksjlk
00:28:52 <boily> trying to ' according to your methods.
00:30:23 <oerjan> boily: please don't believe hppavilion[1], it casts doubt on your sanity hth
00:30:41 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_numbers#Fractional_numbers
00:31:14 <hppavilion[1]> boily: In US QWERTY, those buttons are the homerow keys that correspond to the set bits in the ASCII of '
00:31:31 <hppavilion[1]> boily: [homerow in this case being the-buttons-your-non-thumb-fingers-are-on]
00:33:46 * boily whistles innocently
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00:38:40 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: There's already a standard name for that.
00:38:45 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: (Namely, "CLIENTINFO".)
00:39:05 <fizzie> (For a very loose definition of "standard".)
00:39:57 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Oh. pikhq once used that name on another channel (it didn't work), so I assumed it was the standard...
00:40:06 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Is there a standard format [for automated versions]?
00:40:10 <fizzie> http://www.irchelp.org/protocol/ctcpspec.html "CLIENTINFO -- This is for client developers use to make it easier to show other client hackers what a certain client knows when it comes to CTCP. The replies should be fairly verbose explaining what CTCP commands are understood, what arguments are expected of what type, and what replies might be expected from the client."
00:40:20 <hppavilion[1]> (I seem to be using square brackets as parenthesis a lot recently...)
00:41:15 <fizzie> The reply to a no-argument 'CLIENTINFO' query is intended to be a list of known tags; then you can ask for (e.g.) "CLIENTINFO VERSION" to get an explanation of that tag, and so on.
00:41:19 <b_jonas> oerjan: I saw you found a delexing algorithm for Incident. Nice. I was trying to find one myself (I'm not giving that up).
00:44:38 <shachaf> Yes, I understand that part.
00:44:59 <fizzie> The best part about thanksgiving is no emails from MTV.
00:45:16 <shachaf> Hmm, I could go to MTV and email you.
00:45:49 <zzo38> I did not implement CLIENTINFO on my client yet, I can hope to do that? Let me to read exactly what is the protocol, first.
00:45:56 <fizzie> shachaf: How does this Thanksgiving thing work, are you folks offline for tomorrow as well?
00:47:02 <shachaf> It's not a federal holiday.
00:47:08 <b_jonas> fungot, have you implemented CLIENTINFO on your client yet?
00:47:08 <fungot> b_jonas: i know i didn't know that you've had it for some time i added a new page and sends it to emacs, i suggest, vote). you need just some 50 more metres and i'm home, and realised i forgot to take down what he actually checks
00:47:20 <shachaf> Or a stock exchange holiday.
00:47:27 <fizzie> fungot is very bad about CTCPs.
00:47:27 <shachaf> I don't remember whether it's a Google holiday.
00:47:28 <fungot> fizzie: perhaps, if i could but learn is when you're fairies, you know, that thing about genocide is to be one decimal). the following is a little harder than to wait for the airshow. look over jorma's shoulder. " what size will you be? miss, this here ought to be fnord from the house, and heal my computer with full u+ support" then they both bowed low. just keep the safe or tub and emptied it
00:47:58 <b_jonas> shachaf: is it a holiday where you celebrate only in the evening?
00:48:49 <shachaf> fizzie: I don't have a detailed holiday document.
00:49:06 <fizzie> Hm. Well, maybe it'll be quiet anyway.
00:49:22 <shachaf> I have a document that says that in addition to holidays, US employees get 15 days/year of vacation to start.
00:49:45 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: Yes, but I'm talking about the Friday.
00:50:00 <fizzie> I think it's the black one?
00:50:02 <shachaf> I suspect the situation in EMEA is better.
00:50:31 <fizzie> I guess post-Brexit the 'E' is a bit debatable.
00:51:18 <shachaf> Do you have a number of non-holiday vacation days per year?
00:51:44 <fizzie> shachaf: It might be 20.
00:52:28 <shachaf> fizzie: You can probably look it up on go/holidaycalendar or something like that.
00:52:33 <lambdabot> Local time for fizzie is Fri Nov 25 00:52:32 2016
00:52:51 <shachaf> I mean, look up details about Friday.
00:53:16 <fizzie> shachaf: Actually, I think the 25 was right. I keep remembering it in hours (for a nominal 8-hour day).
00:53:28 <fizzie> (That's how Workday shows it.)
00:53:52 <shachaf> Are your work days 8 hours long?
00:54:07 <fizzie> I forget. There was some number in the contract.
00:54:15 <fizzie> It's a very theoretical number anyway.
00:55:17 <fizzie> I guess they are sometimes. But the commute takes two hours in total.
00:55:18 <zzo38> I did implement USERINFO but I have not implemented SOURCE because I have no FTP server (if you have a FTP server to mirror this file then I will add a link to it). Also that document does not specify the encryption scheme for SED
00:56:07 <shachaf> boily: It's kind of cold, actually.
00:56:14 <shachaf> I have a gas heater but I never figured out how to turn it on.
00:56:21 <shachaf> I think it has a pilot light.
00:56:35 <shachaf> I guess I should find out how to turn that on.
00:57:05 <zzo38> The specification for FINGER includes full name, which can be seen by using the WHOIS command with the server; WHOIS will also give idle time. However, there might be the use if the client's idea of the idle time is wanted instead of the server's idea of the client's idle time.
01:01:26 <fizzie> shachaf: Actually, looking at my Oyster history, 8 isn't that far off.
01:03:52 <shachaf> If a program wants to use variables that are put in a special ELF section, what can it do?
01:04:22 <shachaf> Apparently ld.bfd supports .{start,size}of.(sectionname)
01:04:27 <zzo38> (The IRC client I use is simple and does not even keep track of the user's real name, although it wouldn't be too difficult to add the feature to keep track of it.)
01:04:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[DROL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50386&oldid=50385 * BradleySadowsky * (-15) Fix command list
01:04:42 <b_jonas> fizzie: wait, Oyster? isn't that some city mass transport pass?
01:04:53 <fizzie> b_jonas: Yes, London's.
01:05:05 <shachaf> You can link an object file that puts something in the section before and after, but that's kind of annoying.
01:05:20 <fizzie> b_jonas: If you register the card (and turn the thing on), you get emailed an "Oyster Journey History" (PDF + CSV) once a month.
01:05:41 <shachaf> You can also open /proc/self/exe and inspect it.
01:05:45 <b_jonas> shachaf: um, try asking through the compiler or the assembler. I think the object files can represent section info, and you can tell the compiler or assembler to emit such things.
01:05:59 <fizzie> shachaf: I have a vague notion you can add symbols for the section in a linker script.
01:06:00 <b_jonas> shachaf: check the gcc docs for variable attributes
01:06:11 <zzo38> shachaf: I would think that would also require to be used on an operating system that supports that.
01:06:12 <shachaf> fizzie: Right, the linker script is the other option.
01:06:21 <b_jonas> shachaf: which of assembly, C, C++ etc are you defining the variables?
01:06:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[DROL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50387&oldid=50386 * BradleySadowsky * (-27) Redo layout of implementations list
01:06:25 <zzo38> (Hopefully the operating system does support that.)
01:06:32 <shachaf> But you can't just add an additional linker script, apparently, you can only replace the existing ones.
01:06:37 <shachaf> b_jonas: In this case C++.
01:06:57 <zzo38> If it is C++ maybe you have to disable name-mangling for those purpose?
01:07:25 <shachaf> The context is this library: https://github.com/mortehu/xflags
01:07:48 <b_jonas> shachaf: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-6.2.0/gcc/Common-Variable-Attributes.html search for "section"
01:08:17 <shachaf> It's like gflags but it puts flag information in an ELF section so it can be used for e.g. fast startup and autocompletion.
01:08:32 <shachaf> b_jonas: Yes, that lets me put things in the section (which is what that library does).
01:08:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[DROL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50388&oldid=50387 * BradleySadowsky * (+0) Fix typo
01:09:00 <b_jonas> shachaf: ok, so what's the problem? does the linker not handle that properly?
01:09:18 <shachaf> No, the problem is that I want the program to scan through the things I put in that section.
01:09:28 <shachaf> I think I phrased it badly at the beginning.
01:09:53 <b_jonas> shachaf: could you put a symbol (possibly a variable symbol) at the beginning of the section, and one at the end?
01:10:00 <shachaf> Yes, that's what that library does.
01:10:19 <shachaf> But then you have to take care to link that thing before anything else.
01:10:28 <shachaf> Otherwise you silently miss variables.
01:10:44 <shachaf> You can also use .startof.(sectionname), but ld.gold doesn't support that.
01:11:11 <b_jonas> but doesn't the linker help in that? as in, doesn't it have some way to give weights to the variables so they're ordered like that, or put multiple sections one after the other directly in a given order, or something?
01:13:02 <b_jonas> shachaf: as in, write a linker script that tells to put the sections foo0, foo1, foo2 consecutively in the output binary, put the variables in foo1, and the markers in foo0 and foo2
01:13:28 <shachaf> Well, if you can avoid writing a linker script, that would be better.
01:13:42 <shachaf> In particular I don't think you can just add a linker script for the thing you want, you can only replace the existing one?
01:14:20 <b_jonas> shachaf: instead of variables, could you use gcc's builtin support to create functions that are ran at the startup of the program, and let those register the variables at runtime?
01:14:42 <b_jonas> gcc has a way to give weights to order those init functions
01:14:51 <b_jonas> (depends on the linker and crt probably)
01:15:18 <shachaf> Yes, but part of the point of this library is to avoid doing that.
01:15:45 <shachaf> fizzie might have an idea why.
01:16:30 <b_jonas> I don't know much about linker magic.
01:17:15 <b_jonas> There are some other channels here on freenode where you can try to ask if people can't help here, including ##workingset
01:17:38 <b_jonas> Or you could try asking on non-irc forums too
01:19:02 <fizzie> shachaf: There's probably a bunch of properties of the default linker script you could take advantage of, but maybe none I'd be entirely comfortable in relying on.
01:19:22 <b_jonas> Or maybe try to ask the linux kernel people, some of them probably know a lot about unusual compiler+linker magic.
01:20:17 <b_jonas> Also asking ais523 could be worth a try.
01:20:21 <shachaf> They use .startof. now, maybe: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9296965/
01:20:28 <fizzie> shachaf: FWIW, there's one way of "augmenting" the linker script as well at least on GNU ld (see the 'INSERT' command in https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/Miscellaneous-Commands.html#Miscellaneous-Commands and it's description of -T).
01:21:30 <HackEgo> google//Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all.
01:21:59 <HackEgo> 6414:2015-12-19 <tsweẗt> learn Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem. \ 8985:2016-08-27 <oerjän> learn Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all.
01:22:32 <b_jonas> oh! that wisdom tells the name of the super-secret military and pharmaeutical projects that are so secret people can't even tell what domain they're working on?
01:23:00 <b_jonas> Of those two, which one is the pharma?
01:24:36 <shachaf> I have no idea what you're referring to.
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01:35:46 <boily> Google isn't evil, it's omnipotent.
01:42:54 <zzo38> I think probably part of them are a bit evil.
01:43:50 <zzo38> (Even if that might not have originally been their intention when they started Google initially, but they are much larger now.)
01:45:39 <zzo38> I mean part of Google; I don't mean all of them though, it is a large company so it is more complicated than just that
01:46:13 <fizzie> You know what they say, there's a little evil inside every one of us.
01:46:22 <fizzie> "evil" backwards is "live", after all. </deep>
01:47:32 <zzo38> In English it is, yes.
01:48:37 <fizzie> Incidentally, the other day at work there was a big (maybe 1m x 1m x 1.5m) mysterious box, and it said "Shipment ID: PANDORAnnnnnnn" (where the n's are decimal digits) on the label on the side.
01:48:45 <fizzie> I assume that's the Pandora's Box they keep talking about.
01:51:14 <zzo38> But does it have your name on it? If so, did you expect something shipped? (If either answer is no, then probably you should not open it.)
01:53:06 <fizzie> In other "seen things" news, there's this South West Trains ad I keep seeing, I think it's a little on the ominous side: https://zem.fi/tmp/escape.jpg
01:54:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50389&oldid=50362 * BradleySadowsky * (+11) /* D */ Add DROL to list
01:55:02 <boily> there's bamboo shoots in har gow. I feel betrayed.
01:55:24 <shachaf> fizzie: isn't there another channel for that topic of conversation
01:57:47 <fizzie> shachaf: I hadn't realized it was a TRAAAAAINS ad before I had already started to type here.
01:59:54 <fizzie> (I've always been too stuck on the slogan to read beyond that.)
02:01:51 <quintopia> i never know when to use bon or bonne so i give up
02:01:59 <oerjan> . o O ( ominous backwards is suonimo, that's ominously close to finnish )
02:02:57 <boily> quintopia: «bon» is masculine, and «bonne» is feminine. «nuit» is feminine, so it's «bonne nuit».
02:03:06 <quintopia> "I, Mouse" backwards is "E, Suomi"
02:03:14 <oerjan> <boily> there's bamboo shoots in har gow. I feel betrayed. <-- is your relationship to bamboo shots similar to shachaf's relationship to bell peppers?
02:03:32 <zzo38> In JavaScript there is a "constructor" property of most objects. I don't know exactly what was the intended use, but I have found it useful when parsing command-line arguments, by writing something like: option[x]=option[x].constructor(y); The values here are all primitives, and x and y are strings. How common is this kind of code?
02:03:36 <boily> oerjan: no, I was thinking that har gow was purely shrimp.
02:03:41 <quintopia> boily: the latins were stupid. words don't need genders.
02:04:11 <boily> word gender is perfectly logical. «un lit», «une nuit». see, it's sane!
02:04:27 <boily> no, I'm just a Groan Man.
02:04:53 <oerjan> <quintopia> i never know when to use bon or bonne so i give up <-- are you saying you have gender issues
02:05:01 <fizzie> "Suonimo" would translate to something like "veinery".
02:05:06 <quintopia> oerjan: i'm saying french has gender issues
02:05:29 <quintopia> fizzie: a most venerable and venal word
02:05:56 <boily> fungot: which gender do you identify with?
02:05:56 <fungot> boily: is that something you know and and the cases that required to actually mutate the original ( sorted, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance,
02:06:18 <fungot> quintopia: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp
02:06:18 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
02:06:33 <fungot> quintopia: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp
02:06:42 <fizzie> ("suoni" -> "vein", and the -mo suffix is for places where a particular thing is done, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-mo#Finnish)
02:06:53 <boily> fungot is a proper superset of fungot.
02:06:53 <fungot> boily: and it's self-modifying techniques." stop immobilizes and disables you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace?
02:07:05 <boily> see, it's a self-modifying technique!
02:07:19 <quintopia> fungot: try that gender question again
02:07:19 <fungot> quintopia: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube ( some youtube comments)
02:07:29 <oerjan> . o O ( a place for veinous acts )
02:07:47 <boily> veins are too chewy.
02:07:48 <fungot> Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal)
02:07:51 <quintopia> fungot: try that gender question again
02:07:52 <fungot> quintopia: king arthur, *arthur: ector took both his sons to the outside, he is often seen with a camera: there was no light. ( the heart of ahriman: the road between hurworth and neasham. ( van gouden tijden zingen de harpen, by ryotaro shiba)
02:08:17 <shachaf> fizzie: oh man, that was confusing
02:08:53 <shachaf> I once read a book where the king was not male.
02:10:28 <oerjan> shachaf: was it about polish king Jadwiga
02:11:01 <shachaf> No, it was fiction. I'm looking for the title.
02:12:21 <oerjan> . o O ( everything's better with ponies, including horror )
02:12:35 <boily> time to espouse the shape of a mattress. 'night all!
02:12:46 * boily reflectively mapoles the horror out of oerjan
02:12:50 <lambdabot> *** "espouse" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
02:12:50 <lambdabot> v 1: choose and follow; as of theories, ideas, policies,
02:12:50 <lambdabot> strategies or plans; "She followed the feminist movement";
02:12:50 <lambdabot> "The candidate espouses Republican ideals" [syn: {adopt},
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02:14:01 <quintopia> and invite them to beg me for more money?
02:14:37 <oerjan> they have a fundraising now?
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02:23:54 <quintopia> i am reading the wikipedia synopsis...and all of the names...I have to wonder if this is where you got your pun addiction
02:24:10 <quintopia> the barbarian leader is ACTUALLY NAMED "Hasbinbad"
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02:25:43 <oerjan> he may also have read goscinny comics hth
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02:26:24 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iznogoud
02:27:45 <oerjan> . o O ( wait, was that where i got it - one of my earliest memories is of an asterix volume )
02:28:43 <oerjan> i suppose disney wasn't much better.
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03:22:35 <zzo38> If you don't like Wikipedia's fundraising banners you can set them to not be displayed.
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03:32:28 <zzo38> How tall are mediaeval houses?
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04:07:28 <zzo38> Regardless how you spell them. How tall are they (in feet or in yards)?
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06:29:23 <oerjan> and scott aaronson indeed posts about the paper i linked the other day - saying they found a flaw in it. oh well.
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08:32:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ABCR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50391&oldid=50390 * Steve * (-3)
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12:06:28 <HackEgo> mroman_//mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW)
12:06:58 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, is there a name for the general case of the property of exponents where (b^m)*(b^n) = b^(m+n)?
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14:39:53 <HackEgo> fabric of reality//The fabric of reality is *not* plaid corduroy, no matter what evil tongues say.
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14:50:26 <izalove> copying ubuntu on your usb key like a pro
14:50:27 <izalove> root@notebook ~ # cat download/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso > /dev/sdb
14:52:23 * izalove is tired of people using dd for that
15:40:03 <int-e> izalove: let's just hope that the random initialization order didn't accidently cause /dev/sdb to be your hard disk drive
15:40:27 <int-e> (sda being a USB device has happened to me here, at least once)
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17:01:59 <zzo38> I think I have once tried mounting a .iso file and it resulted in a read-only filesystem, which is what I expected anyways. Does this mean that copying it like that will make the USB key also a read-only filesystem until you reformat it?
17:05:55 <int-e> izalove: but you got it wrong; the pro version is curl http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.10/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso > /dev/sdb
17:23:03 <int-e> Zarutian: The world just hasn't been the same ever since Twitch installed Arch Linux. ("Twitch Installs users managed to reinstall Arch only to be thwarted by the botnet. The botnet managed to partially install Gentoo.")
17:25:23 <Zarutian> int-e: you mean there was a stream where people watching it could Twitch Plays Pokemon style install Linux on an VM? Really?
17:26:22 <int-e> I suppose https://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux/v/23578745 can still replay the deed?
17:32:10 <\oren\> why is ttf such a non-local format
17:33:41 <\oren\> I'll have to do a whole extra program that puts all the addresses rigt
17:34:21 <zzo38> How do you mean as "a non-local format" exactly?
17:37:13 <int-e> position-independent in the relocation sense.
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17:46:34 <int-e> (and in any case I suspect that oren's question was rhetorical)
17:48:47 <oerjan> non-locality is a fundamental quantum property hth
17:49:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50393 * Ferrosurgeon * (+695) Created page with "Lutfig is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookup_table#Hardware_LUTs lookup table] configuration language inspired by the impression that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field..."
17:49:42 <HackEgo> group:Groups are just loops with the property of associativity. \ halfling:Halflings are genericized hobbits for intellectual property reasons. \ intellectual property:Intellectual property is either the plot of land where a university campus is or otherwise a property which gives something an intellectual air or appearance. \ keenlist:keenlist is
17:49:54 <oerjan> no, no, you're supposed to lut fish, not figs
17:50:23 <int-e> don't we look down on fish?
17:51:21 * oerjan swats int-e into a lye bath -----###
17:51:24 <fizzie> If wishes were fishes.
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17:56:49 <shachaf> int-e: Should grwp default to sport?
17:57:32 <fizzie> I just had some TGIF pizza.
18:04:13 <HackEgo> #! /bin/bash \ cd wisdom; shopt -s dotglob; grep -R "$@" -- *
18:04:37 <shachaf> `` cd wisdom; grep -R property | sport
18:04:46 <HackEgo> 1/4:intellectual property:Intellectual property is either the plot of land where a university campus is or otherwise a property which gives something an intellectual air or appearance. \ group:Groups are just loops with the property of associativity. \ termite:Termites are genericized ants for intellectual property reasons. \ vegemi
18:04:56 <HackEgo> 2/4:te:Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons. \ sanity:Sanity is the defining property of boily. Taneb invented it. \ keenlist:keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast \ Binar
18:05:17 <\oren\> I have new, terrifying idea!
18:07:09 <\oren\> what if my ttf converter automatically detected shapes that are common to glyphs and treated them as compound
18:08:21 <fizzie> shachaf: That's what the "F" is for.
18:08:40 <shachaf> fizzie: I thought the F was for Forum.
18:08:55 <\oren\> this would have it detect that the left half of my a is identical to the left half of o and use that as acomponent
18:09:16 <fizzie> shachaf: Well, it's Friday here by the time the actual TGIF rolls around.
18:09:41 <\oren\> actually maybe you can even do that to the ttf as a postprocessing step
18:09:59 <fizzie> shachaf: (So we do a "re-show" of the stream in a conference room Friday afternoon, and then a "social TGIF" in the evening.)
18:10:48 <shachaf> I remember that that was the reason it was moved to Thu in the first place.
18:11:05 <\oren\> but how do you efficiently find common sub images in a collection of images?
18:13:45 <\oren\> hmm, given that the images are internally stored as bits, maybe I can use shift and XOR?
18:15:00 <Taneb> Did that inconsistent esolang idea a few weeks ago ever get published
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18:40:04 <zzo38> I made a list of the file formats to support by my Farbfeld Utilities; currently only a few file formats are supported. http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/wiki?name=File+formats ("R" and "W" indicates that it is implemented and "-" means that it doesn't)
18:41:17 <zzo38> If there are other formats you want, you can add them to that wiki page too
18:45:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50394&oldid=50393 * Ferrosurgeon * (+518)
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19:36:54 <zzo38> Do you know how to make reverse-astrology?
19:37:28 <zzo38> I wrote on this paper for making up a character for a GURPS game and I want to figure out what to write for birthday by use of reverse-astrology.
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19:54:37 <zzo38> Why is changing name like that so much? What is that for?
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20:43:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50395&oldid=50394 * Ferrosurgeon * (+884)
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22:55:55 <HackEgo> gazpacho//You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off!
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23:06:47 <quintopia> i learned today that the word "must" is on its way out of the english language
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23:26:04 <hppavilion[1]> (or "mustn't" if you're living in a commonwealth country or the past)
23:28:50 <boily> hppavellon[1]. The Commonwealth is the Future of Tomorrow! Praise be the Queen!
23:29:08 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Someday, english will have a crossdressing king
23:31:37 <boily> crossdressing is fun!
23:32:32 <shachaf> boily: Isn't it blasphemy?
23:37:13 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, apparently counting in binary solves the Towers of Hanoi
23:37:25 <hppavilion[1]> I wonder what variant on Towers of Hanoi is solved by bijective binary
23:38:24 <boily> hellochaf. crossdressing?
23:38:47 <shachaf> I guess dressing like what's-his-name is permitted by Christianity.
23:40:48 <boily> flowing robes are good for æration. plus you're pretty!
23:43:35 <shachaf> i'm not sure he was crucified in robes hth
23:44:39 <boily> crucifixion is a pain in the hand...
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