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00:31:11 * Zarutian cranks the volume way up on oerjans headphones and does: dong!
00:35:25 <oerjan> @tell rdococ 3-cell brainfuck is _very_ restrictive in what kind of calculations it can do - to prove it TC, you essentially have to encode your _real_ data as gödel numbers. for example, i know how to read in a string and convert it into a gödel number, but i have no idea how to print one back out cleanly, even at the end of a program.
00:36:24 <boily> fungot: does oerjan have any resonant frequencies?
00:36:24 <fungot> boily: ( not to mention the program supposed to know
00:36:29 <oerjan> @tell (i can print it out with a lot of junk intermingled, though.)
00:36:53 <oerjan> @tell rdococ (i can print it out with a lot of junk intermingled, though.)
00:37:15 <oerjan> someone should really add some nick syntax checking to @tell.
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00:38:42 <oerjan> <boily> fungot: does oerjan have any resonant frequencies? <-- i can feel one frome the fridge right now.
00:38:43 <fungot> oerjan: does anyone use the plt setup tool, a helper. if it's not as clean as one would hope.
00:41:02 <boily> alercah: we introduced the Marvelous World of Tile Shuffling to yet another coworker yesterday night ^^
00:46:21 <boily> oerjan: wait. you resonate with your fridge???
00:47:36 <oerjan> at least my stomach does. yuck.
00:48:00 <boily> you should cook something.
00:49:30 <Zarutian> oerjan: hmm... single phase AC 50Hz compressor mose likely. Have you consider moving it like 1 cm around or so to prevent the resonance?
00:50:54 <oerjan> i resonate with a lot of things, i'm hypersensitive to vibration.
00:52:34 <Zarutian> The Creators own tuning fork, that you?
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00:57:03 <HackEgo> `sled//`sled <filename>//<sed script>
00:57:18 <HackEgo> prography//Prography is the art of turning computational algorithms into something totally incomprehensible to anyone whose brain isn't made of silicon and arsenic.
00:57:39 <HackEgo> `slwd <wisdom name>//<sed script>
01:06:44 <HackEgo> gentlebeing//A gentlebeing is a gender and species neutral gentleman.
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01:36:18 <oerjan> `le/rn word salad detector//Our word salad detector only uses the finest brains with a smattering of red arrow shark-repellant housewives made out of impertinent codeine fragments in a light sauce of mediterranean guadalope under a bright full speed ahead recommended by fungot.
01:36:18 <fungot> oerjan: but then again, those board look pretty small. i guess
01:36:20 <HackEgo> Learned 'word salad detector': Our word salad detector only uses the finest brains with a smattering of red arrow shark-repellant housewives made out of impertinent codeine fragments in a light sauce of mediterranean guadalope under a bright full speed ahead recommended by fungot.
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02:17:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Challenger5]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51379&oldid=50777 * Challenger5 * (+139)
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02:36:06 <Jafet> `le/rn word salad detector//Our salad detectors include the fact that we have to reveal the excerpt of the codeine, which does not make sense for the light of the guadalupe mediterranean sauce. Please use the bright heart of the housewife the red shark rejects the brightest maximum speed recommended by the ducks.
02:36:08 <HackEgo> Relearned 'word salad detector': Our salad detectors include the fact that we have to reveal the excerpt of the codeine, which does not make sense for the light of the guadalupe mediterranean sauce. Please use the bright heart of the housewife the red shark rejects the brightest maximum speed recommended by the ducks.
02:37:17 <Jafet> (unfortunately, google translate is much more grammatical than it used to be)
02:38:21 <alercah> Jafet: try one of the languages that don't use AI
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02:42:46 <Challenger5> Can someone explain to me how /// is Turing complete? Because I really don't understand it.
02:45:29 <Jafet> apparently mongolian hasn't been Deeply Learned yet
02:48:32 <Jafet> `le/rn word salad detector//Our only word salad detectors before fungot proposed bright full speed under the mediterranean guadalope a light sauce impertinent used the best brains of codeine fragments emerge from the red arrow shark-repellant housewife a smattering.
02:48:33 <fungot> Jafet: that's crossed my mind before. how do we fix it :) but it seems to be a church but hasn't been bothered to implement it somewhat fast in software ( it's speed is fnord now...
02:48:34 <HackEgo> Relearned 'word salad detector': Our only word salad detectors before fungot proposed bright full speed under the mediterranean guadalope a light sauce impertinent used the best brains of codeine fragments emerge from the red arrow shark-repellant housewife a smattering.
02:48:40 <alercah> Challenger5: see the Bitwise Cyclic Tag interpreter
02:49:03 <alercah> it implements BCT, which is known to be turing-complete by reduction to general cyclic tag systems
02:50:36 <Jafet> well, the bct reduction doesn't really help to understand it
02:53:35 <Jafet> shouldn't there be an easier reduction from thue, or something?
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02:56:18 <Challenger5> I made a step-by-step debugger to try to help me understand ///, but it didn't work.
02:56:38 <Challenger5> Also, I still don't understand how tag systems are Turing complete.
02:56:41 <Jafet> `slwd word salad detector//sS.$S and yes I said yes I will Yes.S
02:56:43 <HackEgo> word salad detector//Our only word salad detectors before fungot proposed bright full speed under the mediterranean guadalope a light sauce impertinent used the best brains of codeine fragments emerge from the red arrow shark-repellant housewife a smattering and yes I said yes I will Yes.
02:57:03 <Challenger5> I suppose you might be able to do some type of conversion to a Minsky machine...
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03:06:06 <oerjan> people who want my explanations should bloody well stay.
03:06:31 * oerjan isn't entirely sure on the spot why tag systems are TC, either.
03:06:50 <oerjan> although /// is powerful enough that you don't _have_ to go via them.
03:07:35 <oerjan> hm did Nthern make some other interpreter in it?
03:09:10 <oerjan> hm translator for thue, with plans for others.
03:11:11 <Jafet> of course, it's not entirely obvious that thue is tc either
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03:23:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[///]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51380&oldid=51099 * Oerjan * (+104) /* Implementation */ Link my debugger version.
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11:02:25 <HackEgo> extreme ironing//Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages.
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11:03:31 <Taneb> Is extreme ironing more or less esoteric than submarine jousting
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11:16:03 <boily> Tanelle. less, because it can be explained.
11:17:47 <Taneb> `? submarine jousting
11:17:48 <HackEgo> Submarine jousting is unexplainable.
11:19:18 <int-e> `cwlprits submarine jousting
11:20:31 <Taneb> (I do in fact have a fairly clear idea of what submarine jousting is in my mind, fwiw)
11:20:48 <boily> `grwp submarine jousting
11:21:16 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches \ tanebvention:Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything i
11:21:23 <HackEgo> 1/2:20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): <ehird> So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! \ 277) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! \ 538) <Phantom_Hoover> OMG <Phantom_Hoover> What if <Phantom_Hoover> we shoot Hitler w
11:21:40 <boily> what was the command again to get the history?
11:22:05 <boily> Taneb: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/171131/captain-sonar
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16:05:38 <HackEgo> hilter:HILTER is what happens when someone combines argumentum ad hitlerum, shouting, and muphry's law in one glorious clusterfuck. \ Binary file reflection matches
16:22:57 <oerjan> \oren\: it's illiterally hitler!
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17:22:59 <shapr> tromp: I'm certain I've seen a base prime webpage somewhere, using a zeckendorf representation to make it all work out. Would you happen to know about that?
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18:33:25 <HackEgo> fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky canary prime minister of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg \ hacker:Jim Hacker is a former British prime minister. \ Binary file reflection matches
18:33:46 <HackEgo> : would be the set of rational numbers, if the Unicode Consortium weren't idiots who put it as ℚ. \ algebraic number theory:The theory of algebraic numbers was invented by Fermat to prove his theorem, but he didn't have room to write it down. \ bezout's theorem:Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the co
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19:55:55 <HackEgo> 1:4/And fungot pinged the sockets, and saw that they responded before they timed out, and e saw that it was good: and fungot divided the cloud from the hard drive.
19:57:07 <Zarutian> „divided the cloud from the hard drive.“ <- recent USA WEST S3 outage anyone?
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20:03:53 <HackEgo> Boron (B) is the element of boredom. Stars hate boredom, so refuse to make it.
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20:07:07 <HackEgo> gen_sys_1.0-1:2/And #esoteric was without denizens, and empty; and the order was on the face of the PDP-8. And the software of fungot moved upon the face of the scrollback.
20:07:19 <HackEgo> gen_sys_1.0-1:2/And #esoteric was without denizens, and empty; and the order was on the face of the PDP-8. And the software of fungot moved upon the face of the scrollback.
20:07:23 <HackEgo> gen_sys_1.0-1:5/And fungot called the cloud internet, and the hard drive *nix. And the DNS and the server were upon the first day.
20:07:37 <HackEgo> cat: esobible/gen_sys_1.0-1:2.5: No such file or directory
20:08:20 <HackEgo> And fungot checked if the build environment was sane, and saw that there was no build environment in the first place, and deemed that to be close enough.
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20:10:00 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, I think I should move all the files to be based at 0
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21:27:55 <hppavilion[1]> Nothing beats the feeling of going to a site with a video that you want to download
21:28:09 <hppavilion[1]> Where the video is protected from download (usually by some FlashPlayer thing)
21:28:34 <hppavilion[1]> And downloading the code, decompiling, and finding where the video lives in downloadable mp4 form.
21:43:32 <zzo38> Or if you have some kind of Flash implementation that will have the download option included
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22:15:32 <\oren\> gah, why do I have to shush in as root to do this
22:17:54 <\oren\> "shush in as root, then su back to your own username"
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22:33:24 <hppavilion[0]> Hm, CC-BY-ND licenses have a bit of an issue to them as far as I can tell
22:33:38 <hppavilion[0]> If you duplicate and rehost a webpage licensed under that, you're required to cite the source
22:34:08 <hppavilion[0]> But citing the source requires either putting the citation in a parent page (which means people might not see it if they're linked straight to your mirror, which could be a legal issue)
22:34:32 <hppavilion[0]> Or embed the citation in the rehosted page, but that would count as a derivative in the strictest sense.
22:35:10 <Zarutian> hppavilion[0]: ya mean it is a basically an nomic trap?
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22:37:29 <Zarutian> You could always go "The Non Derative clause is hereby and only here violated to give the required citation: <link to original>"
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