00:00:28 <oerjan> (why does everyone want me to get a kitten suddenly)
00:01:05 <oerjan> (also other things being equal, i like puppies more.)
00:01:18 <shachaf> imo get a full-grown old lazy cat
00:01:35 <shachaf> two cats are better than one
00:02:20 <wob_jonas> I should tell you about the troubles I have
00:02:41 <shachaf> I seem to be pretty standard.
00:02:58 <wob_jonas> yeah, but a geek that's a dog person? what kind of programmer is that
00:02:59 <int-e> you don't know when to ask questions
00:03:28 <shachaf> wob_jonas: Did you know Google is officially a dog company?
00:04:21 <shachaf> See https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
00:04:28 <int-e> @google dog : pooch :: cat : ?
00:04:29 <oerjan> int-e: i'm not sure that's strange, really.
00:04:31 <lambdabot> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4350214/Photos-dogs-pushed-beds-crafty-cats.html
00:04:31 <lambdabot> Title: Photos show dogs pushed out of their beds by crafty cats | Daily Mail Online
00:04:45 <int-e> oerjan: I messed up the wisdom entry quote
00:05:21 <shachaf> I picked up my pooch habit at Google.
00:07:00 <int-e> I'd summon the alice quote but it's short the pertinent bit.
00:07:45 <lambdabot> monochrom says: Alice: "Bob, you should learn Haskell, it's better!" Bob: "la la la, I am not hearing you." Alice: "cola cola cola, I am not talking to you!"
00:08:02 <lambdabot> monochrom says: Alice: "Bob, you should learn Haskell, it's better!" Bob: "la la la, I am not hearing you." Alice: "cola cola cola, I am not talking to you!"
00:08:04 <lambdabot> gwern says: I sometimes think a CS degree could be replaced by reading Alice in Wonderland, GEB, and SICP
00:09:07 * oerjan is confused about which alice quote int-e means
00:11:12 <int-e> "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
00:11:29 <wob_jonas> oh! yes, that quote makes much more sense in context
00:12:04 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 1 wisdom/mad
00:12:05 <HackEgo> "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
00:12:30 <HackEgo> This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate.
00:12:37 <int-e> I wasn't even sure whether it was a nitia quote or not.
00:12:47 <oerjan> . o O ( which pertinent bit was missing? )
00:12:56 <int-e> oerjan: all of it :P
00:13:12 <HackEgo> Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
00:13:43 <int-e> but the initial part was resurrected in that wisdom entry
00:14:40 <int-e> But I'm feeling overly incoherent, good night.
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01:37:44 <kerbal> There is a reason why I keep changing my nickname
01:40:18 <HackEgo> muphrys law//Mumphrie's Law says things will be misspelled at the worst possible moment.
01:40:57 <kerbal> oerjan: Made progress with my bot
01:42:03 <kerbal> I'm working on it over in #esoteric-blah
01:45:41 <HackEgo> zoidberg//Zoidberg is almost definitely a distinct entity from oerjan (p = .02).
01:45:48 <HackEgo> loudly//Did you mean: loudly
01:45:52 <HackEgo> matrix//A matrix is just a matrix. People use them to communicate. Taneb invented them.
01:58:05 <HackEgo> wth//WTH is wavy toe hair. hth.
01:59:08 <HackEgo> dth//dth is the dth ordinal. dth?
01:59:19 <HackEgo> stume//A stume cowears and goatears you. That is the main reason why the often look so ackward.
01:59:36 <kerbal> What does that even mean?
01:59:44 <Cale> `wisdom gostak
01:59:45 <HackEgo> gostak//The gostak distims the doshes.
02:00:30 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: HackEgo: not found
02:00:44 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: HackEgo: not found
02:00:50 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
02:01:27 <HackEgo> rm: missing operand \ Try 'rm --help' for more information.
02:01:57 <HackEgo> rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try 'rm --help' for more information.
02:02:12 <HackEgo> Usage: rm [OPTION]... FILE... \ Remove (unlink) the FILE(s). \ \ -f, --force ignore nonexistent files and arguments, never prompt \ -i prompt before every removal \ -I prompt once before removing more than three files, or \ when removing recursively; less intrusive tha
02:02:45 <HackEgo> 5pEV4X5h \ bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ nasmbuild \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wlcom
02:03:30 <kerbal> You can't actually delete directories in HackEgo, right?
02:03:39 <kerbal> That wouldn't be a great design
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02:05:30 <kerbal> wob_jonas: I got Integbot working again
02:07:32 <Cale> http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2Fzcode%2Fgostak.z5
02:10:07 <kerbal> What is a glaud? A guard?
02:15:40 <Cale> Much of the stam of this interofgan halpock is in abvating things on your own.
02:20:26 <Cale> But you might notice that it's hard to pell at the doshery with glauds crenned in the lutt. You'll probably need to discren them.
02:21:32 <\oren\> is it true that in German, "Feminist" is a masculine noun?
02:24:34 <HackEgo> 10990:2017-06-02 <wob_jonäs> `` echo >> wlcom \ 10989:2017-06-02 <wob_jonäs> revert \ 10988:2017-06-02 <wob_jonäs> `` echo > wlcom
02:25:33 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wlcom: No such file or directory
02:26:03 <oerjan> it was probably put in that directory by mistake.
02:27:01 <HackEgo> 10549:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> fetch https://pastebin.com/raw/5pEV4X5h
02:27:16 <HackEgo> 5pEV4X5h: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
02:27:54 <HackEgo> 10557:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure > confoutput \ 10556:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure \ 10555:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure; make \ 10554:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild; tar -xf nasm.tar.gz \ 10553:2017-03-30 <moonyt
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02:29:47 <HackEgo> 3 \ paste \ spline \ spout \ test \ test2 \ wlist \ yo
02:30:15 <oerjan> `` doag | grep 5pEV4X5h
02:30:19 <HackEgo> 10550:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> as 5pEV4X5h \ 10549:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> fetch https://pastebin.com/raw/5pEV4X5h
02:34:22 <oerjan> `` doag | grep nasmbuild
02:34:27 <HackEgo> 10557:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure > confoutput \ 10556:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure \ 10555:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild/nasm-2.13rc9; ./configure; make \ 10554:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> ` cd nasmbuild; tar -xf nasm.tar.gz \ 10553:2017-03-30 <moonyt
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09:12:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52163&oldid=52151 * Mayube * (+17) /* T */
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09:37:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Theoretica]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52164 * Mayube * (+2152) Created page with "'''Theoretica''' is a theoretical language. No accurate-to-spec implementation of Theoretica can be produced on a physical machine, as an implementation would require not only..."
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09:46:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Theoretica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52165&oldid=52164 * Mayube * (+1094)
09:50:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Theoretica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52166&oldid=52165 * Mayube * (+0) /* Operators */
09:52:36 <myname> so... it's basically a subset of J?
10:27:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Theoretica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52167&oldid=52166 * Mayube * (-32) /* Description */
10:31:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Theoretica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52168&oldid=52167 * Mayube * (-3)
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10:45:02 <mroman> http://codepad.org/iDiCWfSi <- not working as I expected.
10:45:49 <mroman> tl;dr is that the type of node.Next is not guaranteed
10:46:34 <mroman> (and you can't change the type of somethin in a loop)
10:47:30 <mroman> node.Next has type !Any (! means it could be MISSING (== NULL))
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11:36:35 <HackEgo> hax0r//hax0r (see ¯\(°_o)/¯)
11:36:39 <lambdabot> LOWI 151020Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW065 27/13 Q1017 NOSIG
11:37:14 <int-e> do chicken rest when it's hot?
11:38:31 <HackEgo> “Only sane adverb” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
11:38:54 <boily> int-ello. I wonder if a chicken can overheat...
11:39:18 <lambdabot> CYUL 151000Z 05009KT 30SM BKN250 12/06 A3010 RMK CI7 SLP194
11:39:27 <boily> back to normalcy ^^
11:39:46 <int-e> boily: it can, its proteins will denaturalize and the result, properly seasoned, will be yummy.
11:40:35 <int-e> "In the adult chicken the variability is between 105°F and 107°F (40.6° and 41.7°C)." may be closer to what you meant though.
11:43:29 <int-e> "Ethanol intake in the chicken and its effect on body temperature and hypothalamic serotonin" ... for science?!
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11:46:11 <boily> let's marinate chicken while they're still alive!
11:48:52 <boily> meanwhile, AAAAAAAAAARGUHEROUGRUGHRUEIREIUGHUREHAUIREGH.
11:49:06 <boily> pentadactyl is once again broken.
11:58:09 <int-e> . o O ( they should make it into a browser )
12:02:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Myth]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52169&oldid=51258 * Plugnburn * (+245)
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12:22:54 <mroman> also where do chickens go when it rains.
12:23:03 <mroman> because they hardly can fly away.
12:23:43 <mroman> > Do you think they will be smart enough to go back inside?
12:23:44 <lambdabot> parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
12:23:50 <mroman> somebody actually asked this
12:24:02 <mroman> "Hey, I have chicken. Are they smart enough to go back inside when it rains"
12:24:16 <HackEgo> Chicken have capital words. boily leaves them.
12:24:50 <mroman> `? rain is a natural bird repellant. Also chickens.
12:24:51 <HackEgo> rain is a natural bird repellant. Also chickens.? ¯\(°_o)/¯
12:24:54 <mroman> `learn rain is a natural bird repellant. Also chickens.
12:24:56 <HackEgo> Learned 'rain': rain is a natural bird repellant. Also chickens.
12:25:07 <mroman> `learn rain is a natural bird repellent. Also chickens.
12:25:09 <HackEgo> Relearned 'rain': rain is a natural bird repellent. Also chickens.
12:25:27 <mroman> Chickens are part of the species of "false birds" unlike "true birds"
12:25:41 <mroman> just like there are true ducks and false ducks.
12:29:59 <boily> `` grep -FI boily wisdom/* | wc -l
12:30:30 <HackEgo> grep: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory
12:30:54 <boily> `` grep -FIrs boily wisdom/* | wc -l
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14:41:53 <izabera> is there a hash table that allows efficient merging?
14:44:00 <izabera> and hash table doesn't have to be a hash table, any kind of associative array would be fine
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14:44:28 <izabera> and by efficient i mean sublinear time
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18:13:38 <\oren\> WHYYYYY they are calling their subroutines like:
18:15:03 <wob_jonas> nah, the real answer is that they learned programming from bad old books, same as with all the bad C++ code out there, by people who learned C++ back when it was a bad language, and haven't updated their knowledge since
18:15:38 <shachaf> Learning C++ from the Internet may just be a bad idea.
18:16:02 <wob_jonas> shachaf: no no, that was before the internet got big
18:16:16 <shachaf> @google example of the "mutable" keyword in C++
18:16:17 <lambdabot> http://www.geeksforgeeks.org/c-mutable-keyword/
18:16:17 <lambdabot> Title: C++ mutable keyword - GeeksforGeeks
18:16:34 <wob_jonas> shachaf: back when we only had access to some random shareware or pirated software from floppies, and some badly translated old books
18:19:39 <\oren\> they have a user subroutine called &unlink()
18:19:58 <\oren\> which isn't the same as the builtin unlink
18:20:09 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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19:34:37 <wob_jonas> my vacation starts on saturday (in less than two days) and I'm visiting my brother in sweden again
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20:19:17 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
20:19:27 <HackEgo> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
20:19:31 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
20:19:36 <lambdabot> What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas.
20:19:40 <lambdabot> activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search
20:19:40 <lambdabot> slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where
20:22:34 <int-e> @check reverse xs == xs
20:22:36 <lambdabot> • Variable not in scope: xs :: [()] • Perhaps you meant one of these: ‘x’ (i...
20:22:36 <lambdabot> You have QuickCheck and 3 seconds. Prove something.
20:22:42 <int-e> @check reverse \xs -> xs == xs
20:22:54 <int-e> @check \xs -> reverse xs == xs
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20:23:10 <int-e> @check \xs -> reverse xs == (xs :: [Bool])
20:23:12 <lambdabot> *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 3 tests):
20:24:21 <int-e> (beware that @src is an incomplete work of fiction, though it is based on Haskell's standard library)
20:24:50 <int-e> idris-bot: ( help?
20:24:50 <idris-bot> (input):1:5: error: expected: "#",
20:25:00 <idris-bot> (input):1:1: error: expected: ":",
20:25:15 <kerbal> Ah, it interprets a programming language
20:25:17 <int-e> anyway, enough annoying shachaf :P
20:25:27 <fungot> kerbal: mit scheme, rather than languages where it's required by the scheme standard
20:25:35 <fungot> ^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
20:26:03 <fungot> int-e: it looks better this way: 99 bottles of beer. take one down and pass it around,
20:26:04 <HackEgo> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
20:26:28 <kerbal> That doesn't seem entirely accurate
20:26:53 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? It started with, like, an ø?
20:26:57 <kerbal> fungot is a neat bot, but it has a screw loose
20:26:57 <fungot> kerbal: sweet. where is esobot? i have
20:27:19 <kerbal> If fungot is your voice of reason, you are doomed
20:27:19 <fungot> kerbal: except that one time travel movie with the same name
20:27:24 <int-e> . o O ( I think you're reading the wisdom entry the wrong way )
20:27:34 <int-e> getting warmer now
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20:43:21 <wob_jonas> anyway, I realized why I was stupid today:
20:43:32 <wob_jonas> it would be much more concise to encode things into one big number
20:43:38 <wob_jonas> that's how I should try to write the quine
20:43:51 <kerbal> Could you send me the quine using pastebin again?
20:43:53 <wob_jonas> it would probably still be on the limit of what fits in an irc message, maybe slightly bigger
20:44:26 <kerbal> shachaf: can I put integbot here?
20:47:20 <int-e> `` echo 1684951050dnP | dc
20:53:14 <wob_jonas> kerbal: but make an esolangs.org page too
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20:55:03 <wob_jonas> and I think in the docs you should clarify what the return value of the print (]) and store (}) operators are (technically also of the sbrk (_) expression but I don't care about that one),
20:55:15 <wob_jonas> and figure out how that implicit sequencing works, and document or fix it or something
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20:56:31 <wob_jonas> documenting language rules is better than not documenting them, even if the rules are something stupid
20:56:42 <kerbal> sorry if they are stupid
20:57:06 <wob_jonas> well I don't know what the rule is right now
20:57:11 <wob_jonas> maybe it's just a bug you'll fix soon or something
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22:23:54 <__kerbal__> That might be sufficiently distinct and simultaneously familiar. Maybe I can finally register __kerbal__
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22:28:39 <\oren\> yeah this is some sort of barbarian perl dialect
22:29:21 <\oren\> where subroutines are all called as if & was the sigil for subroutines
22:32:47 <__kerbal__> ok, I am now __kerbal__. It's distinct and nice and Pythonic.
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22:33:56 <wob_jonas> ais has created two more languages?
22:37:54 <\oren\> wob_jonas: some guy at my work speaks a barbarian dialect of perl
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22:48:14 <quintopia> what is my favorite game beginning with the letter c?
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23:45:39 <wob_jonas> I wonder how often it happens that the spirit of the dead Euler appears as a vision to a mathematician and reveals some hitherto unknown mathematics, but Euler explains the maths in latin so the lesser mathematician doesn't understand anything.
23:46:34 <wob_jonas> I don't know if Euler knows maths terminology in russian, german, french, or hebrew. Maybe he does and then he can find a common language with the listener.
23:46:46 <int-e> yay, one IPv6 mystery solved
23:48:18 <int-e> (lambdabot had sporadic problems connecting for @google, and I finally decided to make a support ticket for that... turns out the host's IPv6 address was configured with the wrong prefix length... in retrospect I could have spotted that problem myself.)
23:49:18 <wob_jonas> yes, spotting probs is always easier in retrospect
23:50:09 <int-e> True. What I mean is that I did have all the necessary information.
23:51:51 <int-e> but ip addr add aaaa:bbbb:cccc:dddd::eeee/64 looked too plausible and I didn't think of counting the bits in the aaaa:bbbb:cccc::1 router address.
23:53:22 <int-e> and the amazing bit is... it mostly worked
23:57:32 <int-e> But it's really nice to get customer support. (I opened the ticket 6pm local time, marked it low priority, got a reply within 5 minutes...)
23:58:36 <int-e> A human reply, I should add.