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01:26:33 <fizzie> Is there anything at all you could still buy in a grocery store that's a dime a dozen? Hmm, I guess something where a single unit's quite small. But anything you could actually buy exactly 12 of, with a dime?
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02:03:20 <zzo38> I don't know, and I cannot test it at this time, due to the pandemic
02:03:49 <zzo38> (If it is anything, possibly something in bulk)
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02:21:14 <kmc> bulk items are usually sold by weight
02:21:41 <kmc> it might work out to a dime a dozen, but would also depend on the weight of each item, which is usually somewhat variable
02:27:25 <kmc> unrelatedly i noticed today the logo of Raspberry Pi StackExchange looks a bit like everyone's favorite Letter, Other unicode character https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/
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02:28:55 <kmc> today I put a Raspberry Pi in my fridge for an hour
02:29:04 <kmc> powered from a USB power bank
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02:29:28 <kmc> playing around with Mycodo and a temperature/humidity sensor I got
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02:29:50 <kmc> it somehow amuses me greatly to SSH to a computer that is inside my fridge
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03:20:26 <Hooloovo0> one time I had a computer that would only wake up from sleep if it was cold. I'd sometimes put it in the fridge for a bit when I got home so I could do that
03:22:26 <kmc> i've heard of putting hard drives in the freezer to save them
03:22:39 <kmc> fixes intermittent contacts on the board through metal expansion or something?
03:23:14 <zzo38> Is there a CSS command to display the page number of an anchor?
03:27:56 <kmc> don't know
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07:57:23 <b_jonas> nakilon, fizzie: also I don't buy the argument that the backtick key (the one to the left of the 1 key) is far away, given how many people in forums seem to write backticks instead of every apostrophe
08:02:43 <b_jonas> "<fizzie> Is there anything at all you could still buy in a grocery store that's a dime a dozen?" => not in a grocery store I believe. about the only items that are cheap enough to buy in a dime in a grocery store here are a box of matches, but that has about 40 to 50 sticks of matches in a box, or possibly twice as much if you can buy two for a dime, or staple baker products, but you can get one or at
08:02:49 <b_jonas> most two for a dime. however,
08:04:41 <b_jonas> I wonder, there may be something you can buy for that price in a paper store or office supply store or post office, but even then I don't think it's possible anymore.
08:04:54 <b_jonas> or a photocopy store maybe.
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08:10:01 <b_jonas> perhaps you could buy something like colored glass toy beads, or screws, or links of a metal chain, or large bearing balls a dime a dozen
08:10:22 <b_jonas> but I don't think you can buy less than a meter of a metal chain
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10:44:18 <int-e> b_jonas: you're not into jewelry, are you
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11:00:05 <b_jonas> int-e: I'm not into jewelry
11:00:36 <b_jonas> was that because of the metal chain?
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15:08:30 <nakilon> > given how many people in forums seem to write backticks instead of every apostrophe
15:08:32 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:23: error: <hint>:1:23: error: parse error on input ‘in’
15:08:41 <nakilon> maybe in their layout it's not that far? maybe near some Shift?
15:09:14 <nakilon> ` -- actually this one is on the key on the right from the left shift in my current layout
15:09:44 <nakilon> I don't use this key at all though, I prefer big shift and thinking that the next key is Z
15:10:34 <nakilon> lol I've triggered two bots
15:11:46 <nakilon> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Physical_keyboard_layouts_comparison_ANSI_ISO_KS_ABNT_JIS.png
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15:13:52 <nakilon> I've use an old keyboard on desktop that has the upper layout -- that's what people used earlier, and Shifts got destroyed only years after that
15:16:17 <nakilon> anyway the thing I told wasn't about the backtick but about the Ёё that is on the same key -- the one under Esc
15:17:40 <b_jonas> nakilon: yes, I just said I think substituting е for ё was a thing before most people learned to type on a keyboard
15:17:49 <b_jonas> but I could be wrong about this
15:20:38 <nakilon> quick googling gives three typewriter layouts: one same as modern keyboard: https://media.mts.ru/upload/contents/10544/poviezhivatsya_301120_6.jpg
15:21:01 <nakilon> another one with Ё in the far right bottom https://media.mts.ru/upload/contents/10544/poviezhivatsya_301120_4.jpg
15:21:43 <nakilon> oh, I lost the third one, but it also didn't have Ё at all
15:22:09 <nakilon> so I guess it just didn't have a place yet before computers
15:23:02 <nakilon> ah, they are from this page: https://media.mts.ru/society/124811/
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18:07:47 <kmc> TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_pumpkins_and_watermelons
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18:28:48 <oren> MLP stands for multilayer perceptron
18:28:57 <oren> not my little pony
18:31:49 <b_jonas> no, it stands for machine language parser
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19:22:37 <myname> there is a political party named MLPD and i always think it has something to do with my little pony
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20:08:05 <fizzie> It stands for Mobile Location Protocol.
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20:37:02 <zzo38> Do any other systems store object references as a pair of index number and generation number?
20:39:19 <shachaf> zzo38: Systems other than what?
20:39:26 <shachaf> I think that's a relatively common scheme.
20:39:44 <zzo38> OK. Although, I know many systems just use pointers.
20:39:58 <zzo38> (Some might use an index number without a generation number.)
20:40:14 <shachaf> Here's one article about it: https://floooh.github.io/2018/06/17/handles-vs-pointers.html
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21:02:29 <zzo38> Yes that works. What I have done is a bit different, although in my case it is involving VM codes, and while each object has a generation number, vacant slots don't; there is a single global generation counter which is incremented during a creation if there was no other creation since the most recent destruction. Another advantage of index/generation pairs is that you can easily find if an object has been destroyed, in case you care abo
21:03:05 <shachaf> Your message was cut off after "care abo".
21:03:25 <shachaf> But use-after-free detection is a nice property.
21:10:31 <zzo38> Not only to detect use-after-free, but in case you need to know if the object exists for some other reason, not only for detecting errors, sometimes.
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22:36:06 <zzo38> In this case, it is Free Hero Mesh is what I am doing, although similar ideas can apply to other systems, whether they use VM codes or not. There are other methods of garbage collections and determining validity of references in some systems, and that is one possibility.
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22:55:19 <zzo38> (Most instructions that dereference objects will result in an error if an invalid reference is given, except for ",Destroyed" which will be 1 if given an invalid reference. In this way, it is possible to check for invalid references.)
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23:05:19 <zzo38> (This is different than the Windows version, which does use pointers, and an invalid reference will always crash and cannot be detected.)
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23:35:44 <zzo38> Do you have backups of my public files? I make backups on DVDs, although I don't do that all the time; I only have a limited number of DVDs. Many of my files are Fossil repositories, which it is possible to clone (it is also possible to download only some artifacts, if you implement that by yourself; Fossil does not have the ability to make partial clones, although the protocol does).
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23:37:03 <zzo38> (That is, if you are interested, or know someone who is; if not, ignore this, I suppose)
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