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16:25:23 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181401&oldid=181400 * Miui * (+203) /* My wife */ new section
16:25:47 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181402&oldid=181401 * Miui * (-4) /* My wife */
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16:45:55 <esolangs> [[Talk:Sgn Machine]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181403 * Ractangle * (+219) Created page with "atp ''x''-machine trend is the new ''x'' Complete trend ~~~"
16:46:01 <esolangs> [[TR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181404&oldid=181391 * Exitcode1 * (-21)
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16:59:19 <esolangs> [[TR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181406&oldid=181405 * Aadenboy * (-1) /* Hello, world! */
17:00:23 <esolangs> [[TR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181407&oldid=181406 * Aadenboy * (+95) cats
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17:41:08 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181411&oldid=181410 * Miui * (+49) /* Logo */ idk why its not working?
17:42:25 <esolangs> [[Poop (pstron)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181412&oldid=179498 * Pstron * (-6333) {{delete|Author request: the project is deprecated. I want to delete it.}}
17:44:54 <esolangs> [[User:Miui/N]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181413 * Miui * (+37) Redirected page to [[File:Mshakes.Hamlet.png]]
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18:07:49 <esolangs> [[User talk:SDGL4RNG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181428&oldid=177325 * Miui * (+93) /* Yes please i need help via 'xxx' pattern isolation thank you very much */ new section
18:08:15 <esolangs> [[User:SDGL4RNG]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181429 * Miui * (+13) Created page with "[[Usernames]]"
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18:10:18 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181432&oldid=181431 * Miui * (+3) yeee
18:11:20 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181433&oldid=181432 * Miui * (+59)
18:14:50 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Miui * uploaded "[[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png]]": above sed but in freeBSD
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18:17:08 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181436&oldid=181402 * Miui * (+62) /* $Aleph1/'xxx' */
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18:20:11 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181438&oldid=181437 * Miui * (+75) /* Attempting to explain... */
18:20:29 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181439&oldid=181438 * Miui * (+2) /* Attempting to explain... */
18:21:34 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181440&oldid=181439 * Miui * (+18) /* Attempting to explain... */
18:23:38 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181441&oldid=181435 * Miui * (+25)
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19:44:00 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181443&oldid=181317 * Miui * (+29)
19:45:23 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181444&oldid=181443 * Miui * (+26) /* Hello World */ Category Proposal: Hermetic
19:49:15 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181445&oldid=181288 * Miui * (+154) /* Proposal Category: Hermetic */ new section
19:52:59 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181446&oldid=181444 * Miui * (+307) /* Hello World */
20:48:21 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181447&oldid=181232 * Miui * (+119) /* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */
20:50:26 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181448&oldid=181447 * Miui * (+33) /* successor proposals */
20:52:33 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181449&oldid=181448 * Miui * (+13) /* successor proposals */
20:54:29 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181450&oldid=181449 * Miui * (+52) /* successor proposals */
20:59:40 <esolangs> [[Hyperspace (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181451&oldid=95895 * Miui * (+45)
21:00:15 <esolangs> [[Hyperspace (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181452&oldid=181451 * Miui * (+39)
21:02:25 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181453&oldid=181446 * Miui * (+59) /* Usecase */
21:03:19 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181454&oldid=181453 * Miui * (+50) /* = current proposal miui 21:02, 9 May 2026 (UTC) */
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21:28:06 <esolangs> [[Subcategory:Golf-based]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181460 * Miui * (+18) Redirected page to [[Golf]]
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21:30:58 <esolangs> [[Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181462&oldid=141745 * Miui * (+23)
21:35:21 <esolangs> [[Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181463&oldid=181309 * Miui * (+47)
21:35:52 <esolangs> [[Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181464&oldid=181463 * Miui * (-7) /* Notes on technical limitations** */
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21:36:53 <esolangs> [[Talk:Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181465&oldid=181152 * Miui * (+63) /* Graph-rewriting paradigm */ new section
21:37:42 <Sgeo> VM/370 CE (which I think is too large for HackEso) has instructions on compiling its PL/I elsewhere. I'm... not sure I'm up for it thougj
21:37:43 <esolangs> [[Talk:Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181466&oldid=181465 * Miui * (+0)
21:37:54 <Sgeo> Actually, how large is too large for HackEso?
21:39:20 <esolangs> [[Talk:Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181467&oldid=181466 * Miui * (+379) /* Graph-rewriting paradigm */
21:39:38 <zzo38> What raster picture format might be appropriate for representing a printed page if it should support mipmapping, colour spaces (including spot colours), multiple layers (where each pixel in a layer can be either any colour in the colour space or it can be transparent), and colour variations (e.g. monochrome and colours together, so that it can be printed on monochrome without needing a separate file)?
21:40:34 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181468&oldid=179214 * PlaceReporter99 * (+78) /* Partially Silly Ideas */
21:42:44 <zzo38> After reading an article about PDF, I had some ideas how I would make an alternative format (which lacks many features of PDF but also has some features that PDF lacks; but conversion between formats (losing information that cannot be converted) would also be possible).
21:44:32 <esolangs> [[User talk:OfficialWatchOS7Alt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181469&oldid=181048 * Miui * (+51) /* It ok */ new section
21:44:52 <esolangs> [[User talk:OfficialWatchOS7Alt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181470&oldid=181469 * Miui * (+14) /* It ok */
21:45:05 <esolangs> [[User talk:OfficialWatchOS7Alt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181471&oldid=181470 * Miui * (+0) /* It ok */
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21:47:47 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181473&oldid=181468 * PlaceReporter99 * (+127) /* General Ideas */
21:50:50 <esolangs> [[Esoteric computer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181474&oldid=64341 * Miui * (+30)
21:51:28 <int-e> Sgeo: I guess there are two answers for that. If you stay inside /hackenv/tmp there's a few GB of space available and I suspect it's perfectly fine if those are used. Outside of that directory most stuff is under version control though. Currently the full repo is ~500MB and adding or modifying large binaries will basically add the binary size to that (give or take), and barring tedious history...
21:51:34 <int-e> ...editing that space will be gone forever.
21:52:09 <int-e> `` du -sh ../interps
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22:00:01 <int-e> `` du -sh ../.hg/store/data*/pli*/
22:00:24 <HackEso> 4.4M../.hg/store/data/pli-1.4.1/ \ 16K../.hg/store/data-s/pli-1.4.1/
22:00:42 <int-e> `` du -sh ../.hg/store
22:01:32 <int-e> `` du -sh ../.hg/store
22:02:50 <fizzie> "Few GB" may be overstating it a little. Yes, there's 6.1 GiB technically free on the device (up from ~4G because the new container is lighter-weight than the old one), but that's all shared, and filling it up would prevent the wiki from working too.
22:03:20 <fizzie> (I should probably add actual quota enforcement, in fact, since that's a pretty terrible failure mode.)
22:04:24 <int-e> Hmm shouldn't that `du` eventually be all cached, or does UML add so much overhead that it'll never work?a
22:05:18 <fizzie> The repository weighs around 530M in history (.hg), 137M in working copy (everything else), 122M in /hackenv/tmp.
22:06:35 <fizzie> The first limit you're likely to run into, though, will be the 10 MiB setting of RLIMIT_FSIZE.
22:08:25 <fizzie> That's being even slower than usual.
22:09:32 <fizzie> Looks like there's somehow a stuck UML process consuming ~100% CPU time despite the timeout, that's new.
22:12:24 <fizzie> I'd like to see what it's trying to do, but there's no easy way to do that, the temporary file it uses to pass in the configuration appears to have been unlinked. The process still has an open file descriptor for it, so it might be possible to recover it _some_ way, but that's maybe more effort than it's worth.
22:12:53 <int-e> fizzie: can't you cat the /proc/nnn/fd/foo as root?
22:13:33 <fizzie> The files there look like symlinks.
22:13:41 <fizzie> (And the target is gone.)
22:14:00 <fizzie> Oh, they stat like symlinks but you can still somehow read it.
22:14:03 <int-e> I know but I thought there was some magic that allowed this. Maybe not.
22:14:11 <fizzie> Yeah, /proc is just weird.
22:14:57 <int-e> Even weirder, I seem to recall that you can even `ln` out of there into the original file system.
22:15:18 <fizzie> Yeah, I do remember something like that being a thing.
22:16:47 <fizzie> I'm slightly regretting making this config file a protobuf with a custom header, rather than a text file.
22:18:43 <fizzie> Maybe unsurprisingly, the command it's trying to run is `PATH=/usr/bin /hackenv/bin/altairz80l64 /hackenv/cpm2.d/run`, but it's somewhat unclear why it hasn't timed out.
22:18:56 <fizzie> Maybe it's one of the test runs I did manually that didn't get the usual timeout behavior.
22:21:46 <fizzie> That probably wasn't helping the system cope with the crawling (which today took place from 5pm to 10pm) any better.
22:25:09 <fizzie> `` ulimit -f # is this any faster now
22:25:45 <int-e> `` du -sh ../.hg/store # and this? :)
22:26:13 <fizzie> I was going to say "let's not get ahead of ourselves", but apparently so!
22:26:44 <int-e> Yeah I half expected another timeout
22:27:37 <int-e> of course you warmed up the cache too
22:28:32 <fizzie> Anyhoo, VM370CE.V1.R1.2.zip is 238829089 bytes, that'll definitely run into the file size limit.
22:29:45 <int-e> eh it's probably for the better
22:38:16 <Sgeo> https://sky-visions.com/IBM360/ vm.zip is only 12MB, but doesn't have PL/I installed. I'm not sure how much space PL/I takes up
22:41:02 <Sgeo> VM/370 CE does include a manual on installing PL/I on other VM systems.
22:44:38 <esolangs> [[Category:XXX-based]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181475&oldid=181459 * Ais523 * (-27) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181459|181459]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) please stop inventing new category-like concepts and editing them onto arbitrary pages
22:45:13 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Subcategory:Golf-based]]": content was: "#REDIRECT [[golf]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
22:56:26 <esolangs> [[Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181476&oldid=181462 * Ais523 * (-23) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181462|181462]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) vandalism, this page is not a category page and should not be in a category described for categories
23:00:32 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181477&oldid=181440 * Ais523 * (-5343) remove offtopic / excessive social-media-style content, and add a warning about it and about vandalising pages
23:03:19 <Sgeo> The .aws from a `tape dump` of every file in CE's PL/I stuff is 4.5MB
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01:21:41 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181480&oldid=181479 * Broxol * (+12237) /* Interpreter */
01:22:18 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181481&oldid=181480 * Broxol * (-149) /* Interpreter */
01:24:52 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181482&oldid=181481 * Broxol * (+101) /* Interpreter */
01:27:39 <esolangs> [[User:Broxol]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181483 * Broxol * (+327) Created page with "Hello, Im Broxol, I write esolangs. Esolangs Ive written: *Telephone (you can find it on this wiki) *Hashtag (WIP) *Cycle (WIP) I usually write them in python, and I usually paste the code directly to their page, so if you want to run anything, Id recommend having
01:29:37 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181484&oldid=181482 * Broxol * (+133)
01:52:30 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181485&oldid=181484 * Aadenboy * (-65) format
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02:21:47 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181487&oldid=181284 * Broxol * (+14) /* C */
02:22:59 <esolangs> [[User talk:Salpynx]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181488&oldid=181313 * Salpynx * (+2026) /* gt fetch */ response; gt fetch == group theory mapping?
02:23:51 <esolangs> [[User:Broxol]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181489&oldid=181483 * Broxol * (-26)
02:33:58 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181490&oldid=181477 * Miui * (+56) /* ais said */ new section
02:45:36 <esolangs> [[Insercle]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181491 * Ais523 * (+3943) documenting an esolang I created by mistake
02:46:02 <esolangs> [[Ignorant 2C]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181492 * Ais523 * (+28) Redirected page to [[2C#Ignorant 2C]]
02:50:09 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181493&oldid=181454 * Miui * (+2) /* Usecase */
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03:16:05 <Sgeo> I'm an idiot who didn't realize that just because the .zip is small doesn't mean the unpacked and installed stuff will be spamm
03:21:56 <ais523> well, it depends on how compressible the contents are
03:22:04 <ais523> there are limits to how far you can compress most things
03:24:27 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181495&oldid=181493 * Miui * (+51) /* Usecase */
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03:27:02 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181496&oldid=181490 * Miui * (+67) /* Category proposal */ new section
03:28:41 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181497&oldid=181495 * Miui * (+30)
03:29:28 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181498&oldid=181497 * Miui * (+40)
03:33:58 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181499&oldid=181498 * Miui * (+21)
04:11:17 <esolangs> [[Finite-state automaton]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181500&oldid=78600 * Ais523 * (+99) explain the FSA/FST distinction
04:11:59 <esolangs> [[Finite-state transducer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181501 * Ais523 * (+36) redirect to [[finite-state automaton]] as this is (depending on your point of view) either a special case or trivial modification, and in any case makes sense to discuss in the same article
04:12:25 <esolangs> [[Finite-state automaton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181502&oldid=181500 * Ais523 * (-2) grammar
04:22:16 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181503&oldid=181494 * Broxol * (+256)
04:22:43 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181504&oldid=181503 * Broxol * (+2)
04:28:42 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181505&oldid=181442 * Cleverxia * (-80) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181377|181377]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]): [[User:Miui]], [[bf|fuck]] you if you're doing a lot of unrelated things on this page. this is vandalising.
04:30:23 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181506&oldid=181505 * Cleverxia * (-417) manually undo Miui's edits
04:34:30 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181507&oldid=181499 * Miui * (+206)
04:35:14 <esolangs> [[Stjck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181508&oldid=180817 * Cleverxia * (+179) move out of public sandbox
04:35:16 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181509&oldid=181506 * PrySigneToFry * (+88) Combine some usernames to make "PythonshellDebugwindow" to interpret Python
04:36:26 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181510&oldid=181507 * Miui * (+75) /* Program execution */
04:37:35 <esolangs> [[User:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181511&oldid=181384 * Exitcode1 * (+72)
04:39:08 <esolangs> [[Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181512&oldid=181464 * Miui * (-270) /* Computational Class */
04:39:14 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181513&oldid=181509 * Cleverxia * (+211) frees yet another username
04:39:49 <esolangs> [[Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181514&oldid=181512 * Miui * (-11) /* 2. GNU Multi-precision Arithmetic */
04:40:47 <esolangs> [[Finite-state automaton]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181515&oldid=181502 * Aadenboy * (-29) wording
04:42:23 <esolangs> [[Esoteric computer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181516&oldid=181474 * Cleverxia * (-30) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181474|181474]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]): just another undoing of Miui's vandalising
04:43:31 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181517&oldid=181455 * Cleverxia * (-27) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181455|181455]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
04:44:06 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Pjk0626 * New user account
05:01:19 <esolangs> [[Talk:THCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181518&oldid=181244 * Miui * (+60) /* Category proposal */ new section
05:02:35 <esolangs> [[THCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181519&oldid=181248 * Miui * (+20)
05:04:24 <esolangs> [[Asterisk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181520 * Cleverxia * (+28) I ''think'' this is valid
05:05:19 <esolangs> [[THCA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181521&oldid=181519 * Cleverxia * (-20) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181519|181519]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
05:06:50 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181522&oldid=181513 * PrySigneToFry * (+3)
05:08:13 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181523&oldid=181522 * PrySigneToFry * (+129)
05:08:33 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181524&oldid=181523 * PrySigneToFry * (-5) Oops!
05:13:47 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181525&oldid=181504 * Broxol * (+109) /* EXAMPLES */
05:20:36 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181526&oldid=181525 * Broxol * (+186) /* EXAMPLES */
05:22:01 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181527&oldid=181526 * Broxol * (+810) /* INTERPRETER */
05:51:30 <Sgeo> vm.zip is ~12MB compressed and ~70MB uncompressed, so
05:55:23 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181528&oldid=181496 * Miui * (+126) /* Category proposal */
05:56:13 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181529&oldid=181528 * Miui * (-2401) Replaced content with " == Category proposals == #Quantum subcategory: '''Faux-quantum''' #General category: '''Phytocomputing''' #Formal thematic: '''Neuromorphic computing''' *Characteristic: ''Memory elements''"
06:03:45 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181530&oldid=181529 * Cleverxia * (+2401) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181529|181529]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]): Why do you delete all other's warnings to you
06:05:08 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181531&oldid=181510 * Miui * (+566) /* Program execution */
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06:14:46 <esolangs> [[Talk:Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181532&oldid=180683 * Miui * (+93) /* re. Categorization */ new section
06:17:57 <esolangs> [[Talk:Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181533&oldid=181532 * Miui * (+143) /* re. Categorization */
06:18:42 <esolangs> [[Talk:Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181534&oldid=181533 * Miui * (-2) /* re. Categorization */
06:21:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181535&oldid=181534 * Miui * (+14) /* re. Categorization */
06:25:18 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181536&oldid=181531 * Miui * (+66)
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06:28:50 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181537&oldid=181536 * Miui * (+62) /* Characterization of Miracle langs: */
06:31:00 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181538&oldid=181537 * Miui * (+0) /* Integrated QR */
06:32:04 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181539&oldid=181527 * Broxol * (+124) /* FUNCTIONS */
06:34:09 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181540&oldid=181538 * Miui * (+89) /* Integrated QR */
06:36:07 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181541&oldid=181540 * Miui * (+35) /* Integrated QR */
06:38:17 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181542&oldid=181541 * Miui * (-1) /* Integrated QR */
06:39:00 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181543&oldid=181542 * Miui * (+0) /* Integrated QR */
06:40:29 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181544&oldid=181543 * Miui * (+12) /* Integrated QR */
06:45:36 <esolangs> [[Talk:Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181545&oldid=181535 * Miui * (+29) /* re. Categorization */
06:48:14 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181546&oldid=181441 * Miui * (+34)
06:49:10 <esolangs> [[User:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181547&oldid=162209 * Miui * (-267) Redirected page to [[User:Miui]]
06:50:56 <esolangs> [[User:]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181548&oldid=181547 * Ais523 * (+267) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Zobie211|Zobie211]]
06:56:36 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181549&oldid=181185 * Miui * (+19)
07:04:23 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181550&oldid=181544 * Miui * (+104) /* Integrated QR */
07:04:57 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181551&oldid=181550 * Miui * (-2) /* Interprereted */
07:29:03 <esolangs> [[User:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181552&oldid=181511 * Exitcode1 * (+136)
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07:47:49 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181554&oldid=181553 * Miui * (+43) /* Usecase */
07:48:04 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181555&oldid=181554 * Miui * (-1) /* Accommodator= */
07:51:26 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181556&oldid=181555 * Miui * (+6) /* Accommodator */
07:52:00 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181557&oldid=181556 * Miui * (+1) /* Accommodator */
07:54:37 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181558&oldid=181557 * Miui * (+42) /* Accommodator */
07:57:00 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181559&oldid=181558 * Miui * (+48) /* a candidate */
08:00:07 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181560&oldid=181559 * Miui * (+65) /* Accommodator */
08:01:57 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181561&oldid=181445 * Miui * (+51) /* vote */
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08:02:43 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181562&oldid=181561 * Miui * (+32) /* vote */
08:03:59 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181563&oldid=181560 * Miui * (-367)
08:05:21 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181564&oldid=181563 * Miui * (+28)
08:12:46 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181565&oldid=181564 * Miui * (+121) /* proposal */
08:17:12 <Sgeo> "LAMBDA tells Interlisp to evaluate the arguments when the function is called before moving on to executing the forms that follow. We can also use NLAMBDA, which does not evaluate arguments before executing forms.
08:17:16 <Sgeo> https://primer.interlisp.org/atoms-functions-and-lists
08:17:28 <Sgeo> That vaguely puts me in mind of Kernel Lisp
08:21:12 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181566&oldid=181176 * Miui * (+246) /* Unlimited type */
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08:24:51 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181568&oldid=181567 * Miui * (+26) /* See also */
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11:00:16 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181569 * Ais523 * (+16634) an initial draft of topicality guidelines / rules for what is and isn't allowed on the site whether this becomes policy will be based on community feedback
11:04:34 <esolangs> [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181570&oldid=32053 * Ais523 * (+227) sitenotice to advertise the draft topicality proposal / ensure that as many site users as possible have the opportunity to give feedback
11:05:55 <ais523> OK, I needed to do this months or possibly years ago, but I've finally started a draft of a proposal for new topicality rules, and a process to help revise the draft
11:06:58 <ais523> having clear topicality rules would be good for just about everyone, and having a lot of people give input into them might help get them as good as possible
11:07:30 <ais523> (I have put a link to them into the header of every page on the site, to ensure that all active editors are aware)
11:08:26 <ais523> (and readers will be able to see it too, eventually, although it may take a while to appear due to caching)
11:08:46 <ais523> non-editor readers, that is – MediaWiki invalidates caches more aggressively for logged-in users
11:09:52 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181571 * Cleverxia * (+224) Created page with "chinese version here: [https://pastebin.com/iE7naJ8j] (directly copied from the deepseek API which is very cheap, with only minor changes.) ~~~~"
11:10:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181572&oldid=181571 * Cleverxia * (+30)
11:11:26 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181573&oldid=181450 * Ais523 * (+13) /* successor proposals */ fix broken markup I don't consider this a serious proposal, so I considered deleting it, but at least it should have markup that doesn't break the page
11:17:58 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181574&oldid=181573 * Ais523 * (+1761) /* Pages about art that resembles a description of a programming language */ new section
11:19:43 <esolangs> [[User talk:OfficialWatchOS7Alt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181575&oldid=181471 * OfficialWatchOS7Alt * (+356) /* It ok */
12:12:35 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181576&oldid=181572 * Blashyrkh * (+197) /* Program examples (Category:Examples) */ new section
12:17:12 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181577&oldid=181576 * Ais523 * (+573) /* Program examples (Category:Examples) */ I think these should be allowed
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12:55:09 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181578&oldid=181577 * Blashyrkh * (+216) /* Program examples (Category:Examples) */
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13:13:43 <esolangs> [[Recorder]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181579&oldid=160843 * BestCoder * (+296) /* Optimizations */
13:18:19 <esolangs> [[C**]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181580&oldid=175992 * BestCoder * (-216) /* BrainF Intepreter */
13:23:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Vinh * New user account
13:34:10 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181581&oldid=181356 * None1 * (-10) /* Commands */
13:35:51 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181582&oldid=181581 * None1 * (+161)
13:40:36 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181583&oldid=181358 * Vinh * (+146) /* Introductions */
13:47:08 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181584 * Exitcode1 * (+20) Created page with "idk what is this for"
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14:38:22 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181585&oldid=181569 * Ractangle * (+14)
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14:43:53 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181586&oldid=181584 * Ractangle * (+197)
14:44:22 <esolangs> [[Quantum Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181587&oldid=181252 * Miui * (-22) /* Halting */
14:57:40 <esolangs> [[Hashtag]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181588 * Broxol * (+7402) Created page with "{{WIP}} Hashtag is an esoteric programming language designed by user:Broxol to be a pain in the butt to program. It is also designed to be unreadable to anyone who dares try to come across it without knowing anything. Just to give you a taste, here is Hello, World writ
14:58:46 <esolangs> [[User:Broxol]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181589&oldid=181489 * Broxol * (-2)
14:59:25 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181590&oldid=181487 * Broxol * (+13) /* H */
15:00:19 <esolangs> [[Telephone]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181591&oldid=181485 * Broxol * (+0)
15:02:21 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181592&oldid=181546 * Miui * (+101) /* favorite esoquotes */
15:05:37 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181593&oldid=181585 * Corbin * (+167) /* Pages about esoteric programming languages */ For example, Python.
15:07:28 <b_jonas> hmm, this says “edits to a page that don't match how the language is in practice being specified and used are just vandalism”. But that seems overly broad, because for some esolangs, it's hard to find enough information about the language, so an edit about that may just be a mistake where the editor misunderstood some part of how the language actually works.
15:08:09 <korvo> People are always allowed to make mistakes, if that makes sense. (Because they're always allowed to fix mistakes, too!)
15:12:39 <b_jonas> as for art that resembles a description, I think an interesting edge case where I'm not sure if it counts into that category is David Madore's https://esolangs.org/?curid=10256
15:13:02 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181594&oldid=181586 * Exitcode1 * (-217) Blanked the page
15:13:19 <b_jonas> I mean the original post about it, not the wiki entry
15:14:02 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * AhmadMalik * New user account
15:14:54 <b_jonas> it's unclear if it counts as just art describing a fictional language, or an incomplete description of a real language
15:16:58 <korvo> It had a fragment of an interpreter.
15:16:59 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181595&oldid=181594 * Exitcode1 * (+13)
15:17:18 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181596&oldid=181595 * Exitcode1 * (-13) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181595|181595]] by [[Special:Contributions/Exitcode1|Exitcode1]] ([[User talk:Exitcode1|talk]])
15:17:43 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181597&oldid=181578 * Corbin * (+602) /* Program examples (Category:Examples) */ Crazy J is okay. We're frying bigger fish here.
15:19:08 <b_jonas> hmm, how about pages that describe an aspect of the community, like https://esolangs.org/wiki/CALESYTA
15:19:57 <korvo> Those are fine. Author pages are fine too.
15:23:07 <b_jonas> or there could be pages about a website like TIO that has interpreters for lots of esolangs, or a multi-language golf site that contains golf solutions in esoteric languages, like Code golf SE; or of a language-independent (not golf) contest where some participants often use esolangs, like Advent of code; or a description of a regular event like the ICFP programming contest, where the spec of the
15:23:13 <b_jonas> contest often publishes a new esolang, or IOCCC where winning entries sometimes publish a new esolang, or occasionally an implementation for an existing esolang (see that unlambda interpreter)
15:23:51 <b_jonas> hmm, do we actually describe the IOCCC unlambda interpreter somewhere on the wiki?
15:24:55 <b_jonas> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Unlambda mentions it but doesn't give much detail
15:25:15 <esolangs> [[Cyclical]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181598&oldid=181539 * Broxol * (-9)
15:25:39 <esolangs> [[Hashtag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181599&oldid=181588 * Broxol * (-9)
15:27:02 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181600&oldid=181596 * Exitcode1 * (+9)
15:27:09 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181601&oldid=181600 * Exitcode1 * (-9) Blanked the page
15:28:15 <esolangs> [[User talk:Exitcode1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181602&oldid=181601 * Exitcode1 * (+9) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181601|181601]] by [[Special:Contributions/Exitcode1|Exitcode1]] ([[User talk:Exitcode1|talk]])
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15:31:15 <b_jonas> as for “Some programming languages are not esoteric, but can be viewed from the point of view of esoteric programming.”, that could mean at least two things: it could be discussing features in a non-esoteric languages that are unusual and look like they come from an esoteric language, even though they ended up in a production language; or writing obfuscated programs in an ordinary language,
15:31:21 <b_jonas> deliberately using the language in some unusual way, like many IOCCC entries do
15:33:59 <korvo> I think that [[Python]] has the right idea, even if it's currently a little short. Completeness for lambdas is surprising. The lambda quirk is weird. There are many related esoteric subsets, forks, and derivatives.
15:35:24 <korvo> I also think about e.g. aphyr's approach, where an esoteric programmer can find weird features in any programming environment: https://aphyr.com/tags/interviews
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16:13:18 <b_jonas> weird features in any programming language => yes, but some make it easier. a number of my perl obfuscated programs I created because I saw some weird feature in perl and decided to try to use it
16:13:44 <b_jonas> and they range from really ancient compatibility to freshly added in a new version
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16:15:32 <b_jonas> and at least one about a perl library
16:21:54 <b_jonas> https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=496245 is the one inspired by an ancient compatibility feature (which later got removed); https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=657861 for a fresh new feature that got added to the new major version; https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=453519 https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=1008395 (and the other obfuscations using unpack that it links to)
16:21:59 <b_jonas> https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=901254 are in between; and https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=11150225 is about the weird semantics of a parser in a library
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16:37:55 <esolangs> [[Purely Object-Oriented Producer-based/Constructorless Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181612&oldid=173540 * RaiseAfloppaFan3925 * (-21406) delete page; also the esolang name makes it sound like a GPGPU thing like OpenCL
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20:07:53 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181635&oldid=181632 * Ais523 * (-648) /* Delete Brainfuck */ remove section I don't think this is a serious argument, there's no realistic reasoning given and it appears to be some sort of performance art rather than an attempt to improve the topicality rules
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20:19:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181646&oldid=181643 * Ais523 * (+658) /* Category:Program forms */ some thoughts
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20:24:50 <esolangs> [[Old Joe's Milkshake]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181649&oldid=181647 * Miui * (+4) /* esoteric program form */ globos
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20:49:41 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181663&oldid=181662 * Miui * (+21) /* exotic type */
20:50:24 <esolangs> [[Talk:Quantum Gravity]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181664 * Miui * (+29) Created page with "~~~~"
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21:01:42 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui/]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181671 * Miui * (+75) Created page with "'''Proposal Hermetic''' Program forms differentiate via Fibonacci sequence."
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23:43:32 <esolangs> [[Old Joe's Milkshake]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181685&oldid=181684 * Miui * (+1) /* See also */ link Turing tarpit.
23:51:21 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181686 * Miui * (+24) Created page with "WIP[[Category:Thematic]]"
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05:22:06 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181706 * Salpynx * (+1880) Bug? Example appears to flip the 11 cmd appendant from 10 to 01
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05:45:55 <esolangs> [[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181712&oldid=181434 * Miui * (+7)
05:49:01 <esolangs> [[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181713&oldid=181712 * Miui * (+45) Redirected page to [[File:Lambdus Truth Machine.png]]
05:52:57 <Sgeo> All the commas in LISP 1 are weird
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06:08:23 <Sgeo> "The commas in writing S-expressions ma be omitted. This is an accident."
06:16:13 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181715&oldid=140053 * Miui * (+1) /* spelling and case */
06:59:59 <esolangs> [[File:W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181716&oldid=181415 * Miui * (+41)
07:05:50 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181717&oldid=181715 * Miui * (+20) /* spelling and case */
07:08:32 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181718&oldid=181717 * Miui * (+45) /* spelling and case */
07:09:56 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181719&oldid=181718 * Miui * (+40) /* spelling and case */
07:18:38 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181720&oldid=181706 * PkmnQ * (+910) /* Bug in the example? */
07:32:33 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181721&oldid=181719 * Miui * (-5)
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08:06:20 <esolangs> [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181722&oldid=181658 * QuantumV * (+92) truth machine
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08:12:31 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181723&oldid=179660 * QuantumV * (+82) add dodo
08:13:54 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (D-G)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181724&oldid=176737 * QuantumV * (+49) add dodo
08:15:32 <esolangs> [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181725&oldid=181722 * QuantumV * (+6)
08:16:04 <esolangs> [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181726&oldid=181725 * QuantumV * (+3)
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08:40:20 <esolangs> [[DNA-Sharp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181727&oldid=162703 * EiroWarn * (+123) Added a link to an online interpreter developed using JavaScript
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09:25:29 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * The-coder256 * New user account
11:43:22 <esolangs> [[Grill Tag]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181728&oldid=155268 * PkmnQ * (+0) See [[Talk:Grill Tag]]
11:58:55 <esolangs> [[Septem Lingua/STL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181729&oldid=181622 * PrySigneToFry * (-28) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181622|181622]] by [[Special:Contributions/CodePentuplets48|CodePentuplets48]] ([[User talk:CodePentuplets48|talk]]). Reason: I think "Are you lost" would be better for the page that didn't contain anything.
12:04:40 <esolangs> [[Septem Lingua]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181730&oldid=181220 * PrySigneToFry * (+539)
12:26:20 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181731&oldid=181582 * None1 * (+141)
12:26:58 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181732&oldid=181731 * None1 * (-929)
12:27:34 <esolangs> [[OneVar]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181733 * None1 * (+991) Created page with "'''OneVar''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. As its name states, it uses only one variable (signed integer initially 0), whose name is <code>_</code>, but you can do a lot of things to it. ==Commands== There are two types of commands: variable assignment and cond
12:28:23 <esolangs> [[Template:RSB]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181734&oldid=114624 * None1 * (+8)
12:28:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Izzick Sherburne * New user account
12:31:18 <esolangs> [[OneVar]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181735&oldid=181733 * None1 * (+252)
12:32:25 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181736&oldid=181659 * None1 * (+13) /* O */
12:33:10 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181737&oldid=179595 * None1 * (+60) /* My Esolangs */
12:35:13 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181738&oldid=181583 * Izzick Sherburne * (+247) /* Introductions */
12:36:25 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181739&oldid=181738 * Izzick Sherburne * (+1) /* Introductions */
13:06:14 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Ramonchis * New user account
13:06:45 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181740&oldid=181714 * Miui * (+1) /* cmdlets_ */
13:11:36 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181741&oldid=181739 * Ramonchis * (+286) /* Introductions */
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13:47:21 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181742&oldid=181670 * Miui * (+216) /* Special type */
13:48:42 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181743&oldid=181742 * Miui * (+457) /* example: Nope */
13:50:11 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181744&oldid=181743 * Miui * (+55)
13:52:51 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181745&oldid=181744 * Miui * (+99) /* example: Nope */
13:53:49 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181746&oldid=181745 * Miui * (+0) /* example: Nope */
14:16:43 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181747&oldid=181746 * Miui * (+9) /* example: Nope */
14:17:21 <esolangs> [[Memristor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181748&oldid=181747 * Miui * (+44) /* See also */
14:21:35 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181749&oldid=181672 * Miui * (+64) /* Paradox */ new section
14:27:14 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181750&oldid=181749 * Miui * (+58) /* Paradox */
14:27:29 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181751&oldid=181750 * Miui * (-1) /* Paradox */
14:32:45 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181752&oldid=181751 * Somefan * (+78) unsign use h2 for talk topics and
14:41:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181753&oldid=181752 * Miui * (+316) /* Paradox */
14:41:40 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181754&oldid=181753 * Miui * (+0) /* commentary */
14:42:04 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181755&oldid=181754 * Miui * (+0) /* commentary */
14:48:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181756&oldid=181755 * Corbin * (+113) /* Paradox */
15:17:14 <esolangs> [[Esolangs]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181757&oldid=178305 * RocketRace * (+26) Add year
15:18:22 <esolangs> [[Category:Generated by AI]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181758&oldid=180698 * Somefan * (-22) generalize to include **any** article written using ai. (cat name doesn't specify more than that)
15:24:24 <esolangs> [[Https://esolangs.org]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181759&oldid=178307 * Aadenboy * (+39)
15:25:20 <esolangs> [[Esolangs]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181760&oldid=181757 * Aadenboy * (+78)
15:37:04 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181761&oldid=181756 * Miui * (+151) /* commentary */
15:37:52 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181762&oldid=181761 * Miui * (+80) /* commentary */
16:04:07 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181763&oldid=181762 * Ais523 * (-859) /* Paradox */ rm section, as I think it's primarily a distraction from discussing topicality rules this is a discussion / consensus-finding exercise rather than a vote, and although it is possible for a community to have cyclic preferences it seems
16:08:03 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181764&oldid=181720 * Ais523 * (+258) I think PkmnQ is right
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17:03:23 <esolangs> [[ReversibleFerrariMSB]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181766&oldid=181184 * Miui * (+37)
17:06:51 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * DanielVenable * New user account
17:09:59 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181767&oldid=181741 * DanielVenable * (+102)
17:11:41 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181768&oldid=181565 * Miui * (+56)
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17:14:45 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181769&oldid=181768 * Miui * (+907) /* How Brainfuck programs are stored on the stack */
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17:21:01 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181770&oldid=181769 * Miui * (+621) /* How Brainfuck programs are stored on the stack */
17:22:52 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181771&oldid=181770 * Miui * (-1) /* How Brainfuck programs are stored on the stack */ (its Piet bf interpreter technically legally mine lmao)
17:28:04 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181772&oldid=181771 * Miui * (+92) /* How Brainfuck programs are stored on the stack */
17:31:05 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181773&oldid=181772 * Miui * (+81) /* srcs */
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17:36:43 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181774&oldid=181562 * Miui * (+398) /* Brainwise_Compilation#topic */ new section
17:42:05 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181775&oldid=181774 * Miui * (+1) /* Brainwise_Compilation#topic */ taro ttt
17:42:10 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181776 * DanielVenable * (+1675) Created page with "Disclaimer: any similarities between Just Another Verybad esolAng and another language with a name similar to its acronym are definitely on purpose. = Just Another Verybad esolAng = Just Another Verybad esolAng is similar to Java, except wit
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17:45:31 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181777&oldid=181775 * Miui * (+2) /* Brainwise_Compilation#topic */
17:48:22 <esolangs> [[User:Hammy/Box full of sand]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181778 * Hammy * (+829) made the page
18:00:29 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181779&oldid=181777 * Miui * (+87) /* Brainwise_Compilation#topic */
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18:08:32 <esolangs> [[Supervised P with Printing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181780&oldid=180895 * Squidmanescape * (-23)
18:09:57 <esolangs> [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181781&oldid=181726 * QuantumV * (+189)
18:48:43 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181782&oldid=181776 * Aadenboy * (+46)
18:50:56 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181783&oldid=181763 * Aadenboy * (+452) /* Category:Joke languages */ new section
18:51:03 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181784&oldid=181783 * Aadenboy * (+1) whoops
19:03:32 <esolangs> [[Leetlang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181785 * Squidmanescape * (+3667) Created page with "'''Leetlang''' is a joke functional golfing-adjacent language where the only operations (hereby referred to as functions) directly correspond to Leetcode problems. == Values == Leetlang is a dynamically typed language where the type of a value is entirely depe
19:05:59 <esolangs> [[Leetlang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181786&oldid=181785 * Squidmanescape * (+303)
19:15:19 <esolangs> [[]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181787 * Miui * (+45) Created page with "Floor Function of dead fish. [Category:stubs]"
19:15:35 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181788&oldid=181787 * Miui * (+2)
19:15:44 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181789&oldid=181784 * Olus2000 * (+1037) Pages that are themselves art
19:16:07 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181790&oldid=181789 * Gilbert189 * (+1329) /* How would "esolanging" work after this? */ new section
19:18:59 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181791&oldid=181701 * Miui * (+58)
19:21:30 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181792&oldid=181791 * Miui * (+58)
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19:24:38 <esolangs> [[A-SCP-M]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181793&oldid=172472 * CodePentuplets48 * (+89)
19:25:00 <esolangs> [[A-SCP-M]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181794&oldid=181793 * CodePentuplets48 * (-8)
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19:29:00 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181795&oldid=181740 * Miui * (+61) /* cmdlets_ */
19:31:28 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181796&oldid=181795 * Miui * (+140) /* See also */
19:33:25 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181797&oldid=181796 * Miui * (+17) /* See also */
19:35:16 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181798&oldid=181797 * Miui * (-8) /* See also */
19:35:59 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181799&oldid=181798 * Miui * (+1) /* See also */
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19:39:05 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181800&oldid=181799 * Miui * (+147) /* See also */ !
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19:43:23 <esolangs> [[Deadfloor]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181801 * Miui * (+23) Redirected page to [[]]
19:44:15 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181802&oldid=181790 * Olus2000 * (+710) Esolanging isn't comparable to posting art
19:44:15 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181803&oldid=181800 * Miui * (+24) /* See also */
19:49:28 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181804&oldid=181803 * Miui * (+78) /* SUEOP:>_ */
19:50:15 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181805&oldid=181804 * Miui * (+1) /* other opcodes */
19:52:33 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181806&oldid=181805 * Miui * (+63) /* other opcodes */
19:55:30 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181807&oldid=181806 * Miui * (+105) /* other opcodes */
20:02:33 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181808&oldid=181736 * DanielVenable * (+35) add Just Another Verybad esolAng
20:03:54 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181809&oldid=181807 * Miui * (+123) /* other opcodes */
20:06:01 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181810&oldid=181809 * Miui * (+36) /* memory */
20:06:23 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181811&oldid=181810 * Miui * (-8) /* See also */
20:08:28 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181812&oldid=181811 * Miui * (+10) /* See also */
20:12:13 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181813&oldid=181812 * Miui * (+37)
20:12:14 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181814&oldid=181782 * DanielVenable * (+463) add JVM
20:18:14 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181815&oldid=181814 * DanielVenable * (+26) /* Inheritance */
20:20:01 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181816&oldid=181815 * DanielVenable * (-34) /* Just Another Verybad esolAng */
20:28:58 <esolangs> [[Just Another Verybad esolAng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181817&oldid=181816 * DanielVenable * (+214)
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20:42:49 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181818&oldid=181813 * Miui * (+7) /* other opcodes */
20:43:42 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181819&oldid=181818 * Miui * (-1) /* See also */
20:59:45 <APic> Good Night * 😴
21:02:41 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181820&oldid=181640 * IFcoltransG * (+298) /* Pages about art that resembles a description of a programming language */ Add rule that remaining art should be labelled as art
21:04:54 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181821&oldid=181802 * Miui * (+285) /* How would "esolanging" work after this? */
21:17:50 <esolangs> [[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181822&oldid=181779 * Miui * (+4)
21:22:13 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181823&oldid=181694 * Miui * (+53) /* current scope */
21:23:31 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181824&oldid=181764 * Salpynx * (+2566) /* Bug in the example? */ that highlight clarified it, thanks! More corrections needed on the page?
21:24:34 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181825&oldid=181773 * Miui * (+28)
21:27:32 <esolangs> [['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181826&oldid=181819 * Miui * (+18)
21:27:44 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181827&oldid=181824 * Aadenboy * (-5) remove blank lines between <dd> tags
21:30:39 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181828&oldid=181823 * Miui * (-1708) /* favorite esoquotes */
21:32:33 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181829&oldid=181828 * Miui * (-584)
21:37:24 <esolangs> [[Grill Tag]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181830&oldid=181728 * Salpynx * (+0) /* Specification */ correction in the rle spec, 01 -> 10, given that the command inventory is {10, 11}
21:40:02 <esolangs> [[Linguistic Category:Math]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181831&oldid=181825 * Miui * (+206) /* Characterization of Miracle langs: */
21:56:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181832&oldid=181821 * Miui * (+177) /* topic: Harmonic */ new section
21:56:48 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181833&oldid=181832 * Miui * (+78) /* topic: Harmonic */
21:57:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181834&oldid=181833 * Miui * (+80) /* topic: Harmonic */
22:12:25 <esolangs> [[Grill Tag]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181835&oldid=181830 * Ais523 * (-1) /* Specification */ grammar ("1" is typically considered to start with a consonant, despite "one" both starting with "o" which is a vowel and starting with an "oo" sound which is also usually a vowel)
22:14:18 <esolangs> [[Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181836&oldid=181835 * Ais523 * (+0) /* Computational class */ more 01 vs. 10
22:17:04 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181837&oldid=181693 * Miui * (+70) /* Memory */
22:17:18 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181838&oldid=181837 * Miui * (+4) /* Memory */
22:17:28 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181839&oldid=181838 * Miui * (+0) /* Memory */
22:18:36 <esolangs> [[Talk:Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181840&oldid=181827 * Ais523 * (+303) /* Bug in the example? */ explain
22:21:15 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[User:SDGL4RNG]]": not created by the user associated with this page
22:24:22 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181841&oldid=181834 * Ais523 * (-620) rv Miui's edits: a) they aren't a useful contribution to the topic, b) they attempted to forge another user's signature
22:31:27 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181842&oldid=181841 * Ais523 * (+1151) /* Pages that are themselves art */ reply
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22:35:33 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181843&oldid=181842 * Ais523 * (+903) /* Category:Joke languages */ some thoughts
22:38:41 <esolangs> [[Category:Generated by AI]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181844&oldid=181758 * Ais523 * (+14) this should probably include human-written articles about AI-generated languages (especially because the AI-generated pages may be deleted based on the results of the topicality discussion)
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23:05:18 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181845&oldid=181839 * Miui * (+90) /* Commands */
23:10:08 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181846&oldid=181845 * Miui * (+122) /* Memory */
23:11:52 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181847&oldid=181846 * Miui * (+66) /* Commands */
23:14:49 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181848&oldid=181847 * Miui * (+128) /* Commands */
23:15:58 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181849&oldid=181848 * Miui * (+39) /* Commands */
23:17:44 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181850&oldid=181849 * Miui * (+74) /* Commands */
23:25:49 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181851&oldid=181850 * Miui * (+187) /* Commands */
23:36:16 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181852&oldid=181851 * Miui * (+102)
23:37:33 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181853&oldid=181852 * Miui * (+0) /* Commands */
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23:44:23 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181854&oldid=181853 * Miui * (+72) /* Commands */
23:49:47 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181855&oldid=181854 * Miui * (+151) /* Commands */
23:51:47 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181856&oldid=181855 * Miui * (+98) /* Commands */
23:55:29 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181857&oldid=181856 * Miui * (+134) /* Commands */
00:10:28 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181858&oldid=181857 * Miui * (+40) /* Commands */
00:15:10 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181859&oldid=181858 * Miui * (+235)
00:15:46 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181860&oldid=181859 * Miui * (+4) /* esolang */
00:18:14 <esolangs> [[Syssolu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181861&oldid=181272 * Miui * (+161)
00:28:47 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181862&oldid=181843 * Zip * (+395) /* Category:Joke languages */
00:37:06 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181863&oldid=181862 * Aadenboy * (+400)
00:37:14 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181864&oldid=181860 * Miui * (+28)
00:40:53 <esolangs> [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181865&oldid=181864 * Miui * (+34) /* spec */
00:53:48 <esolangs> [[Leetlang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181866&oldid=181786 * Squidmanescape * (+252)
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01:36:07 <esolangs> [[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181867 * Miui * (+0) Created blank page
01:36:23 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181868&oldid=181863 * RocketRace * (+596) suggestion for artlangs
01:36:56 <esolangs> [[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181869&oldid=181867 * Miui * (+41) Redirected page to [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]]
01:37:30 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181870 * Miui * (+5) Created page with "{WIP}"
01:38:09 <esolangs> [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181871&oldid=181829 * Miui * (+37) /* current scope */
01:39:52 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181872&oldid=181870 * Miui * (+250)
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02:06:51 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181873&oldid=174913 * Tommyaweosme * (-170) Replaced content with "21"
02:07:02 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181874 * Miui * (+390) /* commands */
02:07:02 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]]": redirect to deleted page
02:07:21 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181875&oldid=181874 * Miui * (+22)
02:09:00 <esolangs> [[Talk:Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181876 * Miui * (+28) Created page with "not4smolIQ (ideal quotients)"
02:10:06 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181877&oldid=181875 * Miui * (+82)
02:19:21 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181878&oldid=181877 * Miui * (+42)
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02:31:17 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181882&oldid=181881 * Miui * (-17) /* examples */
02:35:25 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181883&oldid=181882 * Miui * (-32) /* examples */
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02:37:49 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181885&oldid=181884 * Miui * (+29) xinogenic
02:40:43 <esolangs> [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181886&oldid=181885 * Miui * (+163) /* examples */
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03:22:25 <esolangs> [[A boson cannon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181910 * Miui * (+55) Created page with "I a! creating a fucking boson cannon right now fuck you"
03:26:58 <esolangs> [[A boson cannon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181911&oldid=181910 * Miui * (+46)
03:27:29 <esolangs> [[A boson cannon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181912&oldid=181911 * Miui * (+1)
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04:02:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[A boson cannon]]": offtopic; content was: "'''A boson cannon''' is a densely unimplemented weapon. [[Category:Weapons]][[Category:Unimplemented]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
04:04:06 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/block]] block * Ais523 * blocked [[User:Miui]] with an expiration time of 1 day and 7 hours (account creation disabled): does not appear to be here to improve the wiki; has made repeated offtopic edits and has ignored warnings
04:04:57 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]]": offtopic
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04:05:46 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181925&oldid=181721 * Ais523 * (-101) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PrySigneToFry|PrySigneToFry]]
04:07:12 <esolangs> [[Talk:Syssolu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181926&oldid=181290 * Ais523 * (+155) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Yayimhere2(school)|Yayimhere2(school)]]
04:07:52 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Syssolu]]": no useful content stating the existence of something without giving details is not useful, and the rest of the page is offtopic
04:09:35 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]]": no useful content (states that an esolang exists, but just contains rambling and irrelevant links rather than a specification, with the only comprehensible detail being that it's queue-based)
04:12:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Linguistic Category:Math]]": does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category proposal" nature of it is never explained)
04:12:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category
04:12:26 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[]]": content was: "Floor Function of dead fish. [[Category:stubs]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
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04:17:50 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png]]": we don't need two copies of this image (in fact, I'm not sure we even need one copy of this image the other is [[https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:$$Aleph_0x1111111100000001.png]], this is just that in inverse video)
04:18:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[U Down ?]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language
04:20:49 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Old Joe's Milkshake]]": page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory
04:20:49 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Old Joe's Milkshake]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory
04:21:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[U Down ?/presetMv golf]]": content was: "('''()''()''''')", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
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04:25:12 <esolangs> [[Hyperspace (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181927&oldid=181452 * Ais523 * (-66) remove irrelevant categories and add a relevant one
04:25:47 <esolangs> [[Hyperspace (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181928&oldid=181927 * Ais523 * (+0) misread this page's history, fixing my previous edit
04:27:17 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181929&oldid=181574 * Ais523 * (-231) /* successor proposals */ remove category proposals that contain no information on why we'd want these categories, and no information but the names (which aren't very useful) on what they'd be for
04:28:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181930&oldid=181929 * Ais523 * (-4316) /* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */ incomprehensible category proposal, with the supporting arguments being a list of unrelated mathematical results it is probably best to remove this sort of thing from the page beca
04:29:58 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:The Globe.png.png]]": offtopic (was only being used to decorate an article without being directly relevant to it, and is not related to esolangs)
04:30:49 <esolangs> [[Translated /PSTF Again4]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181931&oldid=181181 * Ais523 * (-38) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:MihaiEso|MihaiEso]]
04:39:18 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Data and the Nymphir]]": the page does not appear to describe an esolang it's more like a sequence of fragments that might plausibly be part of an esolang spec, but they aren't related to each other except in terms of which words are used)
04:40:18 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[ReversibleFerrariMSB]]": copyright infringement (in addition to numerous other problems, but this is the easiest one to explain)
04:41:28 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Cain and Abel]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language
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04:43:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Abysys]]": defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable
04:43:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Abysys]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable
04:43:53 <esolangs> [[Matrioshka language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181932&oldid=181198 * Ais523 * (-21) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]]
04:44:00 <esolangs> [[Talk:Matrioshka language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181933&oldid=181199 * Ais523 * (-49) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Ractangle|Ractangle]]
04:45:18 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:PSTF]]": vandalism
04:45:48 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:ndirae]]": contained only an offtopic (and mostly incomprehensible) comment
04:46:27 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Oragami]]": offtopic (consisting of random sentences mostly taken from other pages, rather than being discussion on the article [[Oragami]])
04:48:22 <esolangs> [[User talk:ProjectEuler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181934&oldid=181129 * Ais523 * (-224) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181129|181129]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) category proposals should be left to [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] rather than placed on every page you think might belong in the category
04:50:13 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Iffiniternity]]": contains zero information about the language (other than specifying that the creator is [[User:Miui]], who didn't specify anything about the language) an article with no information is not useful to readers
04:51:06 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png]]": offtopic or test page (article created only to embed a single image, but articles should be used for esolangs images already have a description page)
04:51:17 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[User:Miui/N]]": redirect to deleted page
04:53:20 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:User talk-Miui-$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png]]": duplicate image (of [[File:$$Aleph_0x1111111100000001.png]] which may itself be offtopic)
04:54:10 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[User talk:Miui/$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png]]": page used to embed duplicate copies of an image (pages created purely to embed images aren't useful, nor are duplicate images)
04:54:35 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[User:Miui/$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png]]": page created purely to embed one image; content was: "[[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png|left|R interperter for when ur down.]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]])
04:55:14 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Deadfloor]]": redirect to deleted page
04:57:02 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Quantum Gravity]]": talk page of deleted page, no useful content
05:01:39 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:Cake Knife.png]]": offtopic
05:05:29 <esolangs> [[XKCD Random Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181935&oldid=180108 * Ais523 * (-223) undo two edits by [[User:Miui]] this program doesn't appear to be consistent with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in and thus is not a good example
05:07:03 <esolangs> [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181936&oldid=180598 * Ais523 * (-493) remove [[Oragami]] example as it doesn't appear to comply with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in
05:21:06 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181937&oldid=181868 * Ais523 * (+1786) /* Pages that are themselves art */ this is a difficult problem; explain the contradictory constraints
07:25:15 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181938&oldid=181937 * Salpynx * (+4865) going a bit beyond topicality to maybe more fundamental problems that likely prompted this, but trying to be constructive
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07:31:55 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181939&oldid=181938 * Salpynx * (+2) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ sry, fixing my messed up category link
07:32:59 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181940&oldid=181767 * AeroPurple * (+241)
07:34:49 <esolangs> [[Stuley]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181941&oldid=177228 * Ractangle * (+3)
07:35:05 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ractangle * moved [[Stuley]] to [[Makeup]]: Renamed
07:35:23 <esolangs> [[User:Ractangle/Sandbox/Timeline 1832]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181944&oldid=169025 * Ractangle * (-974)
07:45:53 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181945&oldid=181939 * Salpynx * (+274) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ sub-page creation guidelines?
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08:38:40 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181946&oldid=181945 * RocketRace * (+274) badly translated
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11:39:22 <esolangs> [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181947&oldid=181792 * PrySigneToFry * (+584)
12:28:59 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181948&oldid=181946 * RocketRace * (+607) friction perchance?
12:41:05 <esolangs> [[Talk:Important lesbian virtual machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181949&oldid=180633 * RocketRace * (+112) /* import as from lang */
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13:10:11 <esolangs> [[Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181950&oldid=181836 * Salpynx * (+177) /* External resources */ Python experiment in representing the data appendants as RLE 'grills' too
13:37:37 <esolangs> [[POY (2026)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181951 * RocketRace * (+6943) POY
13:38:22 <esolangs> [[User:RocketRace]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181952&oldid=166216 * RocketRace * (+122) poy
13:38:36 <esolangs> [[User:RocketRace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181953&oldid=181952 * RocketRace * (+2) typo
13:38:55 <esolangs> [[User:RocketRace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181954&oldid=181953 * RocketRace * (+15) proud
13:39:56 <esolangs> [[POY (2026)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181955&oldid=181951 * RocketRace * (+1258) Start with an example
13:43:12 <esolangs> [[POY (2026)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181956&oldid=181955 * RocketRace * (+0) The url has changed as I was creating this page
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14:33:54 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rococo * New user account
14:43:20 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181957&oldid=181940 * Rococo * (+180) /* Introductions */
15:49:37 <esolangs> [[4-list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181958&oldid=161544 * 47 * (-2)
15:53:11 <esolangs> [[Talk:=?]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181959 * 47 * (+71) Created page with "big insparation for the [[4KOWO-like esolang]] btw~~~"
15:54:28 <esolangs> [[User talk:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181960&oldid=173596 * 47 * (+8) Changed redirect target from [[User talk:Ractangle]] to [[User talk:Ractangle/Sandbox]]
15:56:55 <esolangs> [[User:Ractangle/Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181961&oldid=180906 * 47 * (+90)
16:03:48 <esolangs> [[User talk:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181962&oldid=181960 * 47 * (-8) ok maybe not
16:25:28 <korvo> Today's fun awk bug: '[:…]' doesn't necessarily match-and-capture the entire ellipsis '…' so instead I have to use '(:|…)'
16:29:58 <esolangs> [[User:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181963&oldid=180996 * 47 * (+382)
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16:57:52 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181964&oldid=181948 * Hotcrystal0 * (+1156)
17:04:29 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181965&oldid=181964 * Aadenboy * (+320) small comment
17:06:16 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181966&oldid=181820 * Hotcrystal0 * (+351)
17:09:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181967&oldid=181966 * Hotcrystal0 * (+263) More on mass deletions
17:12:07 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181968&oldid=181965 * Hotcrystal0 * (+299)
17:25:34 <esolangs> [[Dodecahedron]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181969 * CodePentuplets48 * (+1816) Created page with "'''Dodecahedron''' is an esolang I created which centers on 12 dodecahedrons nested inside one another at different z-levels, 0 to 11. This is the memory. The instruction space is itself a square grid where you can place instructions. The instructions have
17:25:49 <esolangs> [[Dodecahedron]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181970&oldid=181969 * CodePentuplets48 * (+18)
17:26:03 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181971&oldid=181968 * Corbin * (+172) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */
17:27:44 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181972&oldid=181971 * Hotcrystal0 * (+414)
17:38:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181973&oldid=181972 * Hotcrystal0 * (+787)
17:50:57 <esolangs> [[User:CodePentuplets48]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181974&oldid=181628 * CodePentuplets48 * (+4)
17:52:06 <esolangs> [[User:CodePentuplets48]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181975&oldid=181974 * CodePentuplets48 * (+83)
18:10:28 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * TheUselessestGuy * New user account
18:19:22 <esolangs> [[User:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181976&oldid=181963 * Ractangle * (-382) ignore that pls
18:24:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181977&oldid=181973 * RocketRace * (+441) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ on splitting the wiki in half
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18:42:12 <esolangs> [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181978 * Ais523 * (+570) warning used when a non-admin tries to create a category
18:42:49 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-categorycreate]]: page created at the wrong title
18:43:09 <esolangs> [[User:Hammy/Box full of sand]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181980&oldid=181778 * Hammy * (+124) /* sizes of pages */
18:46:42 <esolangs> [[User:Ais523 non-admin/Sandbox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181981 * Ais523 non-admin * (+4) testing the new edit filter by verifying that non-admins can still create pages that aren't categories
18:49:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Goto]]": there isn't consensus to create this category yet (see [[Esolang talk:Categorization#Category:goto based]]), and if it were created it would't be at this name
18:50:29 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Pages with ignored display titles]]": blank category description page (and it can make sense for MediaWiki's auto-categories to not have a description page in order to more easily serve as an alert that something is wrong)
18:51:51 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181982&oldid=181977 * Ais523 * (+420) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ maybe we could have a template for this
18:53:55 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181983&oldid=181982 * Ais523 * (+624) /* Merging pages */ agreed
18:55:27 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181984&oldid=181983 * Ais523 * (+408) /* Pages that are themselves art */ r to RocketRace; this is an interesting idea but we would need to find details that work
19:14:34 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181985&oldid=181984 * Hotcrystal0 * (+424)
19:17:35 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181986&oldid=181985 * Aadenboy * (+465) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */
19:23:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181987&oldid=181986 * Hotcrystal0 * (+1059) /* Collaborative languages */ new section
19:24:10 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181988&oldid=181634 * Hotcrystal0 * (+387) /* About the policy proposals */ new section
19:26:06 <esolangs> [[Talk:CAPI]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181989&oldid=158388 * Hotcrystal0 * (-23) stuff
19:26:11 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181990&oldid=181987 * Somefan * (+232) wiki dumps?
19:28:28 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181991&oldid=181988 * Ais523 * (+386) /* About the policy proposals */ reply
19:31:18 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181992&oldid=181991 * Hotcrystal0 * (+282) typo on filter
19:36:06 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1343.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot
19:37:27 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181993&oldid=181992 * Aadenboy * (+907) /* About the policy proposals */ adding my thoughts
19:39:49 <esolangs> [[MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181994 * Aadenboy * (+364) Created page with "bit of a nitpick, but I think the red is too harsh here and it's a bit hard to read the text ~~~~"
19:52:37 <esolangs> [[MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181995&oldid=181994 * Ais523 * (+401) it's so that people don't miss the fact that the edit wasn't saved
20:18:57 <HackEso> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral.
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20:33:18 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy/Live stats]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181996&oldid=181061 * Aadenboy * (-661) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181061|181061]] by [[Special:Contributions/Aadenboy|Aadenboy]] ([[User talk:Aadenboy|talk]])
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20:51:46 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181997&oldid=181993 * CodePentuplets48 * (+180)
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21:03:42 <esolangs> [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181998&oldid=181781 * QuantumV * (+115) add get
21:05:29 <esolangs> [[DODO]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181999&oldid=181998 * QuantumV * (+0) /* Var Ops */
21:05:40 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182000&oldid=181990 * Corbin * (+217) /* Collaborative languages */
21:05:42 <esolangs> [[DODO]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182001&oldid=181999 * QuantumV * (+1) /* I/O Ops */
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21:14:26 <int-e> Hmm, is it good to get a core dump from /usr/lib/firefox/crashreporter ?
21:16:22 <int-e> (I deleted it, but maybe I should look more closely.)
21:31:56 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182002&oldid=182000 * Blashyrkh * (+255) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */
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21:39:12 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182003&oldid=182002 * Ais523 * (+203) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ deleted pages are backed up
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21:54:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182004&oldid=182003 * Salpynx * (+1351) /* Collaborative languages */ ...like a video of your friends playing a single game of football last thursday placed at the same level as an article about football
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22:07:53 <salpynx> hi, thought I'd loiter here a bit given all the recent admin topicality discussion. IRC might be more efficient
22:09:11 <salpynx> I appreciate the admin effort, thanks for implementing the Category warning so quickly! Wasn't expecting that to go in immediately
22:21:22 <ais523> I'd been thinking about it for a while, thanks for spurring me to actually do it
22:22:42 <ais523> I've been procrastinating on starting a proper topicality discussion for months or possibly years (although it was more a case of not having enough mental energy)
22:23:09 <ais523> I guess I should also thank the people finding new and creative things that need rules against them, in order to inform the decisions about where the lines should be
22:27:39 <ais523> oh, it's not just a warning, it actually prevents the page being created
22:37:25 <salpynx> that's what basically what I was suggesting. It happens so rarely I don't think it's a problem to be admin only
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22:52:33 <korvo> salpynx: Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate that moderate folks are adding moderate opinions; it makes me look like a git, but that's fine.
23:05:28 <b_jonas> I just feel like there's so many pages where I'd find it hard to judge if they're on topic. I hope it'll be easier for you, or whatever other people you rope in as wiki admins.
23:06:28 <ais523> part of the problem is that I'm also one of the people who just has an esolang idea and then posts it that day, without an interpreter or much analysis (beyond, sometimes, a computational class proof)
23:07:05 <ais523> I think my esolangs posted like that are better than the average other person's esolangs posted like that – but I also see my activity as beneficial and find it hard to characterise how others' is different
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23:10:38 <salpynx> heh, np @korvo! I think we agree on being harsh against user created concept categories, and joke proofs etc., I'm quite liberal on what I'd accept for language pages (high tolerance for absurd art), but in most cases I find myself agreeing with your handling of other users via talkpages
23:11:29 <ais523> fwiw I see both korvo and salpynx as being on the more exclusionary side of the conversation (but that's partly because I expect a nontrivial number of people to believe that the wiki should accept absolutely anything)
23:16:28 <korvo> I mostly want consistency in how rules are enforced. I was raised by lawyers, which is like being raised by wolves except that I use too many words instead of too few.
23:17:13 <korvo> I want to see extra sandboxes and user-editable pages removed in order to stay consistent with the single-sandbox and no-social-media rules, for example. I don't mind that people have personal stuff on user pages per se.
23:17:42 <korvo> salpynx: Thanks. FWIW I wish that I were able to be more polite and understanding with the younger contributors; I know that I'm getting old and out-of-touch.
23:18:05 <salpynx> I find the not fully fleshed out ideas are totally fine, but its something about quantity of similar edits shifts it into a meta wiki editing activity for its own sake, and diminishes the information content of whatever was posted. I'm struggling to define it too
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23:24:45 <salpynx> I'd defend almost any one of that recent user that was blocked's language pages individually, even though I can't quite figure out what was going on with most many seemed like the had a kernel of an idea, but the ignored warnings about using preview, vandalism and unhelpful edits to existing pages shifted it into a pattern of disruptive behaviour
23:25:12 <salpynx> the warnings and temp block seemed appropriate
23:25:53 <ais523> I think they were undesirable for a similar reason as LLM-generated pages are, as in they appeared to be saying something but actually weren't
23:25:59 <ais523> but I don't think they were LLM-produced
23:26:12 <salpynx> I feel a little bad I may have encouraged them by interacting, but I was trying to be welcoming and demonstrate wiki norms or something. I've kinda fallen into this trap before
23:26:51 <ais523> I would have been lighter on them if they weren't making my job almost impossible
23:27:19 <ais523> many of the pages there should have been deleted earlier (e.g. the zero-sized images) but I just couldn't keep track of them because edits were being spammed in such quantity
23:32:56 <salpynx> Does mediawiki have a built-in mechanism to force new users go through a draft review process for their first edit? I wouldn't want that to add admin overhead, but it seems that some users are collecting mediwiki accounts to 'play-mediawiki' games. esolangs seems very permissive and a target
23:33:59 <salpynx> I recall some userpages listing other mediawikis users were banned from as a kind of social-media badge, which is equally funny, and worrying
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23:34:32 <ais523> the edit filter extension is programmable enough to come up with things like the Introduce yourself page
23:35:22 <ais523> (which is designed to be difficult for spambot frameworks to navigate, I'm not sure a single spambot has managed to get through it yet, the occasional human looking to spam has though)
23:35:45 <salpynx> some kind of initial speed bump to halt the new sign-ups creating multiple pages a day. That's a pattern that seems to repeat, then they settle down to more constructive edits, or move on
23:37:38 <salpynx> I forgot about the intial captcha coding challenge, that is clever and seems successful. It ensures we only get human spammers with a certain level of obsessiveness :D
23:38:14 <ais523> the spambots were actually able to get through the Befunge captcha, which is kind-of amazing
23:38:26 <ais523> that's why we needed the Introduce yourself on top of that
23:38:41 <ais523> I'm not sure whether someone taught the spambots Befunge or whether they delegated to human CAPTCHA-solvers
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23:42:50 <b_jonas> or if someone thought the spambots just this one specific type of befunge program, the radix 9 decode
23:43:37 <korvo> salpynx: The sad fact is that we already have a fantastic spam filter. The analogy I usually use in IRC is the question of city managers when faced with a wave of graffiti: how to gently discourage vandalism while permitting artists to florish?
23:44:09 <ais523> b_jonas: I've often wondered what would have happened if we changed the captcha to include some OS commands that gathered system information, in the hope of tricking the spambots into revealing information about themselves
23:44:23 <ais523> but there are numerous reasons why that would have been a bad idea, and it's too late to try now
23:44:26 <korvo> ...Well, okay, it's not sad that we have a filter. It's sad that the filter has limited effect.
23:44:59 <b_jonas> ais523: yeah, hope they're running without adequate sandboxing, send them a full reverse shell, and steal all of their botnet.
23:45:08 <salpynx> easy to apply Templates that point to relevant constructive guidelines seems like a good way for non admins to flag high speed edits would enable better community policing. From fighting spam elsewhere I know it's a battle of resources, you lose if you have to construct a polite custom msg each time, in case it's not a bot
23:45:31 <korvo> salpynx: BTW another proposition I've had, only slightly deletionist, is to delete [[language list]]. I think that many of our youngsters get some sort of yomi or aura from tagging the wall, so to speak, and [[language list]] is one of several tagging spots.
23:46:20 <ais523> korvo: I have been planning to replace that for a while, but the semi-serious language list isn't quite in the right space to replace it yet
23:47:09 <b_jonas> I don't like the semi-serious language list
23:47:14 <korvo> ais523: From our last conversation, I recall that the main issue was that we have lots of incoming bluelinks to it, including from templates and MW includes, which would need to be fixed up to either point to [[:category:languages]] or be completely reworded.
23:47:37 <b_jonas> could we delete the joke language list and the semi-serious language list but keep the language list?
23:47:41 <korvo> (As always, if you need some mass editing done and you're just not feeling like doing it, but you can specify it, just ask me to do it.)
23:48:06 <salpynx> I tended to avoid adding my own things to [[langauge list]] because I didn't quite see the point of it over Category:Languages, they are both unwieldy. I feel even stronger against the 'semi-serious language list' though, it's a watered down 2.0 that will likely suffer from the same fundamental problem
23:48:08 <ais523> b_jonas: I think the SSLL is better than the current language list (which is mostly just redundant to the category)
23:48:09 <b_jonas> it won't help too much, but I feel like a joke language list just encourages a few people to write joke languages and doesn't really have positive effects
23:48:32 <korvo> Gonna leave in a few for the bar. Either running Super Metroid or Link to the Past, bartender's choice.
23:48:37 <salpynx> lol, multpile haters of the 'semi-serious' list!
23:48:45 <ais523> fwiw, with these topicality proposals, Category:Languages may turn into something more like the current SSLL due to merging languages that are too similar onto single pages
23:50:26 <ais523> but my ideal is that you can pick a random page and find something interesting
23:50:35 <ais523> a page listing all the BF equivalents is a lot more interesting than a page listing a single one would be
23:50:44 <korvo> salpynx: I think that the problem with "semi-serious" is that it's polysemous. For me, it might be something that I'm not sure is a real language, I guess? I don't use the category at all. But for some regular contributors it's a "lol xd random" sort of category, while for others it's a "I have not proven this to have coherent reduction" sorts of silliness.
23:51:02 <ais523> korvo: the page is clearly misnamed
23:51:10 <korvo> ais523: Yes! Make Special:Random interesting again!
23:51:25 <ais523> I think the goal is to exclude useless/uninteresting/redundant languages while not excluding esolangs just due to being esoteric
23:53:13 <salpynx> fwiw I strongly oppose merging historically separate pages like Lenguage and Unary, but for pretty specific reasons. They have a history, and I created an almost similar lang with slightly different features because the subtle differences once seemed very important to me. At some point it gets arguable, do we merge pages about all sub-species of cats (animal) into one article or not? I also don't think it's the most important argument to have :)
23:53:32 <ais523> maybe the original idea for a name was "serious language list" and then it was rejected because esolangs aren't considered serious by most people
23:53:54 <ais523> salpynx: I think merging pages with subtle differences is actually a good thing, as it helps you focus on the differences
23:54:21 <ais523> like, you can write once about the concept of using length as source code (including things like EOF sort-of being like a symbol), and then talk about the languages based on it and what the precise differences are
23:54:37 <korvo> salpynx: Hey, if it was good enough for Aristoteles to talk about~ Categorization is certainly hard. I think that, at least from what I recall at the time, ais523 is talking about concepts like [[constant language]], where we hashed out a unifying framework as infrastructure for an eventual removal of all (most?) of the constant-language pages.
23:55:19 <ais523> "length as source code" becomes super-interesting when you start thinking about non-integer lengths
23:56:38 <salpynx> I'd worry that if an existing language page contained a lot of information in context, merging could destroy that information, especially if performed by someone who wasn't familiar with the subtleties. Many esolangs have hidden peculiarities not immediately obvious. I'd worry assuming "sameness" could lose info _for pre-existing dense article_
23:56:56 <ais523> oh yes, it would have to be done carefully
23:57:05 <ais523> OTOH, that information is mostly not present even in the current pages
23:57:15 <korvo> Oh, also, consider that we have other ways of making bluelinks branch out. For example, check out the "main article" pattern I used on [[computable]], [[self-reproducing object]], or [[Turing tarpit]]. We *can* have fairly clean trees of articles with central hubs without listicles.
23:57:55 <ais523> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Lenguage is very unclear on the fact that the I/O is totally different from most BF derivatives (the only thing indicating it's different is the reference interpreter)
23:58:16 <korvo> salpynx: Yes, another good point. [[Lesser known programming languages]] is a recent one, or [[prehistory of esoteric programming languages]] is a personal favorite. Sometimes we gotta do research.
23:58:51 <ais523> fwiw, I think listicles, perhaps accompanied by a separate article about the concept, are actually a good format for conveying esolang knowledge
00:00:04 <salpynx> re. ssll, I think some creators of 'good' languages felt slighted that their jokes were not being acknowledged? I think some of the most interesting language are doign something 'funny', but legitimately interesting too
00:01:28 <korvo> It's a spectrum. Even on the most serious end, proglangs usually have silly punny names; the popular languages are e.g. Python, C, Java, C♯, which have interesting stories behind them. I generally hold off on documenting/implementing a language until I have a good name.
00:02:34 <korvo> Okay, it's speedrunning time. Have a good night, y'all.
00:03:12 <ais523> salpynx: there's a genuine field of study of esolangs as art – this isn't the way I primarily view them but some people do
00:03:23 <ais523> (but it's different from studying esolang *specifications* as art)
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00:10:47 <salpynx> having a clear ontology of concepts would help, I feel like I've only just understood that some users are really only interested in creating specifications, whereas I'd been linking the specs and language because I'm not sure how to unlink them. Computation model and language also gets tricky, TWM and Minsky machines come to mind as difficult to pigeon hole
00:12:38 <ais523> IMO there's a clear distinction between a specification (which exists as a method of communication, to convey your notion of how a language works to other people), and something that is designed to resemble a specification but isn't linked to a language (which exists basically because language specifications can be an art form but the language actually existing isn't necessarily an essential part of the art)
00:17:15 <salpynx> right, so it's something taking the _form_ of a language specification, without necessary functioning as one, or that being the primary purpose
00:23:31 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182005&oldid=182004 * Hotcrystal0 * (+398)
00:32:05 <salpynx> I don't quite get that last comment on the page then, creating languages from scratch _is_ allowed. Seems likre there's some confusion about what we are talking about. Creating the page before the language exists at any level is the problem
00:33:29 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182006&oldid=181873 * Tommyaweosme * (+0)
00:33:33 <salpynx> maybe there is a legitimate confustion about what a language is? Maybe there's a view that all you need is a name, then a 'spec'. The name is enough to create a page, then the spec is jsut what gets written on the page?
00:34:28 <salpynx> too many typos sorry, I need to go get food to focus!
00:35:46 <salpynx> esolangs should be educational too, if there's a way to communicate some of this better, we'd all likely benefit
00:39:19 <ais523> one reason I don't like the user-edited languages is that they typically don't have any sort of plan to create a command set that could be used for programming with
00:40:08 <ais523> when I create a language based on a set of commands, I am typically looking for a set that's sufficient to accomplish the goal I had for the language but without anything that's unnecessary towards that goal
00:50:30 <b_jonas> ok, devil's advocate. the page for efghij specifically claims that users can define additions. would you want to delete that page?
00:51:24 <ais523> b_jonas: no because it's already a usable language
00:51:54 <ais523> the reason to delete user-edited pages is because they don't tend to lead to usable languages, if something already is a usable language that reason doesn't apply
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01:32:20 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182007&oldid=182005 * Tommyaweosme * (+215) /* How would "esolanging" work after this? */
01:49:12 <esolangs> [[Infinite commands???]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182008&oldid=173585 * Tommyaweosme * (+12) /* Interpreter */
02:01:06 <esolangs> [[Windy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182009&oldid=180650 * Sisobus * (+35) change github repo path
02:10:49 <salpynx> focusing back on behaviour rather than content: would restricting new user accounts to 5 edits a day (use them wisely!), then unlimited after some period of time solve all the practical problems at a system level?
02:11:02 <salpynx> I'd hate to resonisbile for some rigid rule that deleted efghij because I can't communicate clearly. The community has a bunch of unwritten rules that we've all broken with a wink and a nod. To clarify them has me worrying about ontologies and definitions, and zen-like "the page is a finger pointing at the moon, not the moon" koans, when ppl who likely need this level of specific guidance don't care.
02:13:45 <ais523> I'm not sure an edits/day restriction would have the intended effect, except to make reviewing pages easier
02:16:00 <salpynx> it'd reduce the sustained adrenaline rush or whatever fuels the excitement of an endless blank canvas of a permissive fully open wiki, and enforce more thoughtful edits since they are a limited resource
02:20:23 <salpynx> break the payoff and engagement loop, by altering the game design and reward more thoughtful play styles
02:22:30 <salpynx> "make reviewing pages easier" is a pretty decent goal, and there were 'broken windows' complaints brought up on IRC and the recent talk page where Randomm page and recent edits can look like 100% low quality. A slowdown would allow other content to shine through
02:22:45 <salpynx> ... just a though, slightly outside the box
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02:51:48 <b_jonas> I don't think limiting edits per day would help much, unless it's extreme, like no edits at all other than the Intro page until your account is two months old
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