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00:23:59 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93483&oldid=93447 * Axminister * (+11) /* O */
00:29:35 <esolangs> [[Oddy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93484 * Axminister * (+351) its werid
00:30:31 <esolangs> [[Oddy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93485&oldid=93484 * Axminister * (+10) /* Oddy! */
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03:44:28 <int-e> `learn The password of the month is marching on.
03:44:32 <HackEso> Relearned 'password': The password of the month is marching on.
03:46:06 <int-e> (This one started out as an innocent pun... in the end I had to resist adding the name of a city.)
03:46:13 <int-e> The times we live in...
03:47:15 <int-e> We've had worse :P https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/rev/8b39a3bee917
04:02:40 <Corbin> fungot: How many sunflowers should I plant this season?
04:02:41 <fungot> Corbin: that's ruby's behavior too, i think
04:04:28 <esolangs> [[Cood]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93489&oldid=70509 * PixelatedStarfish * (+25) /* External resources */
04:09:55 <int-e> fungot: Why does Tuesday follow Monday?
04:09:56 <fungot> int-e: hmm that could work. i've got a putty
04:10:07 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
04:10:21 <int-e> (just checking... IRC seemed most likely)
04:19:40 <fizzie> fungot: Are you always losing Saturday somewhere?
04:19:40 <fungot> fizzie: " modprobe fnord" helped. scheme-48 reported error. stklos warned about strange request and fnord up all memory :) in that case
04:22:33 <Corbin> `fnord` sounds like a plausible kernel module name~
04:22:34 <HackEso> fnord`? No such file or directory
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13:34:30 <river> what does modprobe fnord print?
13:34:44 <ais523> presumably it depends on what fnord does
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19:59:41 <river> well it was a stupid joke about how modprobe (unhelpfully) prints nothing when successfull
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02:57:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93497&oldid=93482 * Tsuki * (+226) Add `Tsuki`
03:04:08 <esolangs> [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93498&oldid=93360 * Tsuki * (+335) Add another `C++ codegolfed` implementation for Deadfish
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06:04:31 <oerjan> girl genius: an explosion of hubris in 3,2,...
06:06:49 <int-e> But I don't think it'll be that easy.
06:07:14 <oerjan> well, according to what we saw before she may need an organic body first.
06:07:29 <oerjan> unfortunately, there are several available.
06:07:52 <int-e> Is this the kind of thing that attracts abominable abominations, or are those only interested in time manipulation?
06:08:10 <oerjan> an excellent question.
06:09:14 <int-e> Oh and where's the lantern right now... hmm. I don't know.
06:09:47 <oerjan> well they intended to bring it
06:10:29 <int-e> They kind of split up though, didn't they? Or am I confused... well, I'm confused anyway.
06:10:38 <oerjan> violetta is probably the best choice to keep it handy
06:11:33 <oerjan> well yes, but the party that are just next to lucrezia and friends includes agatha, violetta, krosp, zeetha and dr rakethorn at least
06:12:41 <oerjan> oh and the castle and train
06:13:35 <int-e> I hate action movies... too many cuts ;-)
06:14:58 <oerjan> "but that's why i love them" --dupree
06:19:58 <int-e> we saw the lantern in https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20211224 spoke about it in https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20220119 ... saw that violetta carries all sorts of stuff in https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20220131 ... I may have missed that we saw castle and train catch up in https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20220216 ......
06:20:04 <int-e> ...https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20220223 shows Violetta without any bag (from above) but I guess they just find those again when they need them ...
06:20:47 <int-e> Anyway, I thing we don't know for sure where the lantern is but Violetta is a very likely candidate.
06:22:38 <int-e> "too many cuts" -- because we're following developments of 4 different parties, the last time we saw the lantern was 9 weeks ago.
06:24:16 <int-e> (Now 3 because train and castle have joined the main heroes. There's still Dupree fighting monsters outside, I think.)
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06:25:22 <int-e> Oh and possibly another group of antagonists currently stirring up trouble in Londonium.
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06:28:15 <int-e> And a bunch of people waiting to reappear, like Tarvek, Martellus, Gil, Othar... there's just too much :P
06:29:14 <oerjan> martellus is a party of his own at this moment
06:31:38 <oerjan> we haven't seen higgs since the last splitup, which is a bit surprising.
06:31:56 <oerjan> (i'd expect him to follow agatha and zeetha)
06:32:17 <int-e> Yeah I assume he's with them.
06:32:37 <int-e> Unless... they left someone behind to watch the portal
06:34:06 <oerjan> princess neenah was planned to be left there
06:34:36 <Corbin> fungot: Higgs is faster than he appears.
06:34:36 <fungot> Corbin: what am i saying, im in scheme
06:35:09 <oerjan> that _is_ true. he is a jäger after all.
06:39:28 <oerjan> hm, my plot sense says they'll probably cut to gil etc. next comic
06:40:15 <int-e> Uh. I'm hoping for some fireworks. :-/
06:40:50 <oerjan> i suppose there might be. they _are_ only just behind lucrezia.
06:41:32 <oerjan> but this kind of magnificent gloating today seems like a cut point to me.
06:42:47 <int-e> You may be right. But... meh, I dislike the prospect.
06:43:13 <int-e> So I hope you're wrong :-P
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06:59:09 <int-e> Cool, a 12" optical disc. https://nitter.eu/atomicthumbs/status/1498852821793345538#m
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15:32:21 <esolangs> [[Bedroom]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93500&oldid=93499 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+166) Added an infinite cat program as a further example.
15:33:56 <esolangs> [[Bedroom]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93501&oldid=93500 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+574) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Bedroom programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
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18:22:52 <esolangs> [[Entish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93505&oldid=72960 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) Fix author
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20:28:44 <river> idea: Pokemon except they are non-transitive dice
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21:50:41 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93507&oldid=93312 * DanielE * (+57) Added command
21:52:03 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93508&oldid=93507 * DanielE * (-5) /* Hello world */
21:54:06 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93509&oldid=93508 * DanielE * (-83) /* Truth machine */
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22:46:29 <esolangs> [[Punctuation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93513&oldid=93512 * CiY3 * (+26) /* Hello World */
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01:40:48 <esolangs> [[Talk:Un-Js]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93515 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+229) URLs
02:16:38 <zzo38> I made up a separate web page about Free Hero Mesh since someone had suggested that I should do
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07:45:53 <wib_jonas> river: they're already non-transitive. you get a water, a fire, or a grass pokémon as the starter, and of thsoe, water beats fire, fire beats grass, and grass beats water. or maybe some other three types, depending on the game.
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19:00:15 <river> yes thats the point
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19:13:15 <river> https://i.postimg.cc/4sCSgwQW/Screenshot-2022-03-03-191226.png baba is you, new adventures, level 6. not really spoily
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21:26:20 <esolangs> [[User:Hakerh400/How to solve Slitherlink using SAT solver]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93524&oldid=89022 * Hakerh400 * (+162) Add an example
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22:47:50 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93525&oldid=93521 * Childishbeat * (+184) I introduced myself.
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00:20:36 <esolangs> [[=,-&~]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93527&oldid=93526 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+578) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the =,-&~ programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
00:24:43 <esolangs> [[=,-&~]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93528&oldid=93527 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+506) Added two further examples: an infinitely repeating cat program and a Fibonacci sequence printer.
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00:29:22 <Guest2189> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??????????????
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00:30:04 <fizzie> I did in fact type a `welcome, but then thought better of it.
00:50:06 <int-e> fungot: ARE YOU DEAD TOO?
00:50:07 <fungot> int-e: was going to be homeless soon, no one's ported it to scheme48, operates cleanly with the mechanism he's using call/ cc
00:50:49 <Corbin> fungot: what is esolang?
00:50:50 <fungot> Corbin: each element of its second argument. ( with-... here ( output))) without letting me see the result :)
00:51:12 <fizzie> Oh no, fungot's going to be homeless?
00:51:13 <fungot> fizzie: it's dash peculiar?' have you ever tried hacking the stalin source?
01:15:03 <esolangs> [[1 Line Challenge]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93529 * Childishbeat * (+2502) Created.
01:38:42 <esolangs> [[1 Line Challenge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93530&oldid=93529 * Childishbeat * (+0) Down to up was the wrong way round.
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02:15:36 <fizzie> Hmm. Email with the subject line "Join the Illuminati". You'd think they'd be a little more careful about recruiting.
02:16:54 <Corbin> Not really. We'll take anybody.
02:17:02 <fizzie> "Note: Some email providers incorrectly place official Illuminati messages in their spam / junk folder or promotion folder." Ooh, how dare they.
02:17:30 <int-e> That seems wrong...
02:17:47 <int-e> ...the spam folder is where you *deliberately* put secret messages because most people don't look there.
02:19:42 <fizzie> The message goes into some detail on the benefits of joining (fame, riches, powers and so on) but is curiously quiet on the accompanying responsibilities, other than to advise that disloyalty is highly not tolerated.
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02:23:14 <Corbin> Fame, riches, powers? This sounds like an MLM. A true Discordian only craves hot dogs, and only occasionally.
02:23:48 <Corbin> fungot: If every pork chop were perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs.
02:23:48 <fungot> Corbin: neither in caps nor in lowercase
02:25:30 <fizzie> fungot: Ooh, is it in the highly secret third case then?
02:25:30 <fungot> fizzie: bfvga does line-buffered input.)?
02:27:14 <fizzie> I heard from a video once that the UK information classification level that's now called "Top Secret" used to be called "Most Secret" instead, but got Americanized at some point.
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03:04:14 <oerjan> <fizzie> I did in fact type a `welcome, but then thought better of it. <-- naturally. `relcome is where it's at.
03:06:56 <oerjan> spam is of course bottom secret, that's why everyone gets it.
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03:37:53 <oerjan> hm that breaks my intended sorting rule of not ignoring spaces - but that corner case hasn't been tested before.
03:44:37 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93533&oldid=93532 * Oerjan * (+137) /* Non-alphabetic */ orst, and state how this section is different
05:42:58 <oerjan> ok my prediction failed. maybe next comic.
05:43:04 <oerjan> (it's nice when you're prediction is sure to happen eventually)
05:45:48 <Corbin> Hm. Flame? Lanterns have flames.
05:45:57 <fungot> Corbin: egobot is lying around in the first case is impossible, it's easier to reason about a multi-phase macro expansion, i already though a bit of a pain
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08:12:56 <int-e> . o O ( 586081^2 is not prohibitively large if you handle each pair in 10 cycles. feels wrong though :P )
08:16:58 <int-e> Unfortunately, there were no fireworks either. Just exposition.
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10:29:18 <fizzie> fungot: The frozen flame is actually a piece of Lavos, you know.
10:29:18 <fungot> fizzie: fnord it's usually pronounced ( and thus didn't see/ hear anything)? i don't know
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12:59:59 <fungot> river: i couldn't evaluate your expression in the given time. ( in haskell mode)
13:00:07 <river> fungot: flip concat map
13:00:07 <fungot> river: optimize ( let-values ( ( (
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13:05:17 <wib_jonas> "<fizzie> Oh no, fungot's going to be homeless?" => he's hosted in Finland and is worried about Putin
13:05:17 <fungot> wib_jonas: i just heard today that nobody likes anything about me. :x
13:06:10 <fizzie> fungot: Oh, that's not true! Everyone loves you! You're the best bot.
13:06:10 <fungot> fizzie: ( isdn hasn't thrown more errors yet), but
13:06:32 <fizzie> (We don't want it to start sulking.)
13:06:56 <wib_jonas> “Hmm. Email with the subject line "Join the Illuminati".” => I just got one with "Extend your research in Mathematics". an e-penis extension method.
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19:16:18 <wib_jonas> fungot, how would you rank impedance among your favorite styles of dance?
19:16:18 <fungot> wib_jonas: ( i just realised i'm in the minority... i never saved it so i can still work on some designs for them :o
19:16:39 <wib_jonas> fungot: you can still work on them after you save
19:16:39 <fungot> wib_jonas: but not any more than you
19:17:36 <wib_jonas> don't compare yourself to the best you can find on the internet, that can only lead to disappointment.
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19:59:00 <int-e> fungot: can you do better than brute force on this month's Ponder This!?
19:59:00 <fungot> int-e: ( f x)) ( register-proc! " /bar" bar))
20:01:05 <int-e> fungot: I'll take that as a no. Please balance your parentheses...
20:01:06 <fungot> int-e: it's kind of axiomatic systems, not yours.) http://befunge.org/fis/ fnord ( see fnord) and fnord to reconstruct the source code
20:04:56 <esolangs> [[AMiaBF!?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93534&oldid=85519 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+448) Extended the documentation based upon the command table and the extant examples.
20:05:37 <int-e> (none of my ideas so far have gone beyond the back-of-an-envelope computation of feasibility; it's nice to reduce the number of inner loop iterations by a factor of 5 but not when you replace a 9 cycle inner loop by something more complicated that has to traverse auxiliary data structures)
20:06:10 <esolangs> [[AMiaBF!?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93535&oldid=93534 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+605) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the AMiaBF!? programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
20:07:43 <esolangs> [[AMiaBF!?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93536&oldid=93535 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+152) Addded an example involving the arithmetic derivative.
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20:26:43 <fizzie> The Perl prototype had an enforced punctuation balancer (with a stack, just ignoring mismatched close tokens and adding all the missing close tokens at the end of the sentence), but I never got around to porting that over to the Befunge version.
20:40:20 <wib_jonas> fungot, is "semi-irregular" a word
20:40:20 <fungot> wib_jonas: well i'm thinking just evaluate all ( expr) all the time
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21:36:13 <oerjan> . o O ( occasionally, about half of the time )
21:38:03 <int-e> wait, does this mean that I can predict coin flips with perfect semi-accuracy?
21:38:24 <fizzie> Yay, Bytemark replied that it was just their bug re the discount vs. price increase, and said they'll continue to provide the thing at no cost.
21:38:26 <fizzie> HackEso: In other words, you'll continue to be supplied with delicious alternating current, no need to worry.
21:40:05 <fizzie> I imagine one tiny VPS is a roundoff error at any "serious" provider's scale, but it's still appreciated.
21:43:42 <int-e> fizzie: "rounding error"... just think of the value of that dedicated IPv4 address ;)
21:44:24 <fizzie> I guess there's that. Those are going at, what, $50/address now?
21:46:20 <int-e> . o O ( $200B market cap )
21:46:44 <int-e> https://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-pricing/ has graphs ending around $30
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21:47:21 <fizzie> I was going by an article at https://blog.apnic.net/2021/12/16/opinion-ipv4-address-markets/
21:47:58 <fizzie> A previous consumer ISP gave me a /29 of IPv4 addresses at home, I guess that'd be kind of unlikely these days.
21:49:49 <fizzie> The current one instead charges £5/month for a single one, which I'm paying for no really defensible reason. And have been paying for long enough for them to have recouped their losses, even if they had to pay current prices for it.
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21:51:49 <int-e> Oh is this a paid "fixed IP, definitely no NAT" service?
21:52:28 <int-e> The whole IPv6 story is sad.
21:52:30 <fizzie> Yeah. Although I don't think they do CGNAT even for non-payers. Maybe. I guess I don't know.
21:53:10 * int-e is on a cheap mobile connection
21:53:22 <fizzie> The same £5/month does also mean the /56 that they give to me over DHCPv6 is fixed.
21:53:30 <int-e> inet 10.93.160.254 netmask 255.255.255.255 destination 10.0.0.1
21:54:19 <int-e> Well that's something.
21:55:09 <fizzie> When it works. ;) It's already twice done that thing where IPv6 just stops working.
21:55:29 <int-e> But the reason you pay for this is simple... it's a feature that most users won't miss *at all*. So you can sell it as an add-on to those who want it.
21:55:54 <int-e> And you should be happy that you don't have to upgrade to a (5 times more expensive) business account for this :-P
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21:56:42 <int-e> (CGNAT... yeah maybe that's something people would notice now-adays. There's quite a few games that do peer to peer communication.)
21:57:46 <int-e> And I suspect that's typically UDP, so hard for connection tracking.
21:58:46 <int-e> (Unless I misunderstand what CGNAT actually doe... I'm assuming it maps several consumer side IPs to one ISP-owned IP. I should check.)
22:00:18 <fizzie> Yeah, there's that. One of those "we build our own fibre" ISPs (CommunityFibre) sent me (well, "The Occupier" at this address, they don't know my name) a letter the other day that they're going to be expanding around here. They sell a 3 Gbps consumer service (which is pretty odd), but only do static IPs for "business customers".
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22:05:13 <shachaf> i,i {-# LANGUAGE CGNATs #-}
22:05:45 <zzo38> A few years ago the ISP that I have had enabled NAT by default, but the modem has an option to disable NAT, which I had used, since I have my own router. The IP address is dynamic but it does not change often.
22:07:20 <int-e> (It seems that my vague assumptions about CGNAT were correct.)
22:09:22 <oerjan> fungot: how well do gnats program C, anyway?
22:09:23 <fungot> oerjan: i have on my desktop
22:09:32 <int-e> Of course rather than switching off IPv4 we invent new ways to cope... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Control_Protocol
22:09:40 <int-e> (had not seen that one before)
22:15:40 <fizzie> I knew of UPnP-IGD, and I think I had heard of NAT-PMP, but maybe not PCP.
22:16:15 <int-e> it solves the port correspondence problem
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08:32:39 <esolangs> [[User:IkenusDisnem]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93540 * IkenusDisnem * (+258) PLS ACCEPT THIS PLS PLS PLS
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09:52:17 <zzo38> Now I managed to make Firefox to display Gemini files (although not the Gemini protocol).
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10:25:54 <esolangs> [[AMiaBF!?]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93543&oldid=93536 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1) Inserted a missing period . in the command table.
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11:18:38 <wib_jonas> as for ISP side NAT, does anyone happen to know of a reliable online echo service that tells me not just the my IP address but also the TCP ports on both sides of the connection? it would be nice for debugging. for some reason nobody seems to run one. I don't understand, it doesn't seem like it would take too much bandwidth nor would it be a
11:19:19 <wib_jonas> I think I've seen a few that echo the headers from a HTTP request, but come on, why is the full address-port on both sides so hard?
11:20:54 <wib_jonas> "it solves the port correspondence problem" => isn't that the auth protocol?
11:22:13 <wib_jonas> that old thing used for shared hosts that in theory lets server providers ban only one student in your school rather than ban the whole school, not that anyone actually bothers with that
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14:49:10 <int-e> fungot: do you handle integer overflows?
14:49:14 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93544 * IkenusDisnem * (+3916) not finished
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16:32:23 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93547&oldid=93546 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-46) Use wikilinks
16:34:34 <wib_jonas> ^bf +[[->++<]>+.] do you handle integer overflows?
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16:50:03 <fizzie> Hmm. I think fungot's cells are supposed to be 0..255 with wraparound.
16:50:04 <fungot> fizzie: i love _the wall_... axiomatic system that allows you to know thine enemy in srfi discussions. having been involved in a lot of
16:50:36 <fizzie> (256-4)/2 = 126 = ~, that would seem to check out.
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17:18:01 <fungot> definitelya: 99% sure there is nobody to use it
17:23:49 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++++++++++++>+<[>[->+++<]>[-<+>]<].-.-.-.-.-.
17:24:09 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++ >+<[>[->+++<]>[-<+>]<].-.-.-.-.-.
17:24:24 <fungot> wib_jonas: i mean dot between proc and argstreams list? and why do you want
17:28:54 <fizzie> *Why* are you here, fungot?
17:28:54 <fungot> fizzie: it doesn't work at all. i was very confused. it worked fine for me.
17:29:31 <fizzie> I too am very confused.
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17:32:42 <wib_jonas> ++++ >+<[>[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<].-.-.-.-.-.
17:33:26 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++ >+<[>[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<].-.-.-.-.-.
17:33:42 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++ >+<[->[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<].-.-.-.-.-.
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17:34:49 <wib_jonas> what's wrong with my bf code all the time?
17:35:56 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++ >+<[->[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<]> .-.-.-.-.-.
17:36:12 <wib_jonas> ^bf ++++++++++++++ >+<[->[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<]> .-.-.-.-.-.
17:38:00 <fizzie> I think there was also some sort of a thing where a . of a 0 causes the output to get truncated, because that's the string terminator.
17:39:27 <wib_jonas> ^bf +++++ >+<[->[->+++<]>[-<+>]<<]> .-.-.-.-.-.
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17:53:16 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93549&oldid=93533 * Totobird Creations * (+17) /* S */
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21:19:15 <zzo38> The implementation of Deadfish in Free Hero Mesh was written before the (Control) block was implemented; if the (Control) block is used then it is not necessary to assign an image nor to place any objects in the level editor (neither is allowed for a (Control) block, anyways).
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05:37:29 <esolangs> [[Vurl]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93560 * Viba * (+3635) Created page with "'''vurl''' (viba's useless rudimentary language) is a programming language created by [[User:Viba]] in 2022, for no reason other than to cure their own boredom. == overview =..."
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06:39:49 <zzo38> A more strange idea of Magic: the Gathering: "As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice target world permanent. ;; You win the game."
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07:24:33 <zzo38> (It is probably difficult to use effectively.)
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07:53:24 <river> fungot: ... In fact, the maximum output of a horse can be up to 15 horsepower. Because horses don't care what humans think is impossible.
07:53:25 <fungot> river: im not thinking about then too much and i don't
07:53:52 <river> > sacrifice target world permanent
07:53:53 <lambdabot> Variable not in scope: sacrifice :: t0 -> t1 -> t2 -> terror:
07:53:54 <river> what does this mean?
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08:59:36 <shachaf> A permanent with the type "world"?
08:59:57 <shachaf> As far as I know all of them are world enchantments.
09:36:12 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93561&oldid=93547 * IkenusDisnem * (+187) yeseseas
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09:38:42 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93564&oldid=93561 * IkenusDisnem * (+24) REDIRECT YAS
09:39:14 <esolangs> [[BetulLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93565 * IkenusDisnem * (+35) =)
09:39:26 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93566&oldid=93564 * IkenusDisnem * (-24) Yes
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10:11:37 <esolangs> [[REALScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93569 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+1167) Created page with "'''REALScript''' is modified version of [[FakeScript]] by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]]. Any argument that start with "#" is variable ==Commands== {| class="wikitable" |- ! Command..."
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18:41:40 <wib_jonas> `' pyrotech # Is any of the regulars a fire safety building code inspector? I'm abroad for a work-related thing, and I'm in a hotel. I can't open the door of my hotel room one-handed from the outside, but can open it one-handed from the inside. I was wondering if that's legal. I suspect it isn't.
18:41:47 <wib_jonas> ``` \' pyrotech # Is any of the regulars a fire safety building code inspector? I'm abroad for a work-related thing, and I'm in a hotel. I can't open the door of my hotel room one-handed from the outside, but can open it one-handed from the inside. I was wondering if that's legal. I suspect it isn't.
18:41:48 <HackEso> 663) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith?
18:42:27 <HackEso> 993) <kmc> i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages)
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00:41:52 <esolangs> [[Esomachine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93572&oldid=75037 * Kaveh Yousefi * (-4) Amended two errors in the truth-machine example: (1) The instruction HANDS_EXCEPT should be HANDS_EXPECT, (2) the jumping to line 8 shall occur if the accumulator contains zero.
00:43:08 <esolangs> [[Esomachine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93573&oldid=93572 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+197) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Esomachine programming language on GitHub and added the category tag Implemented.
00:49:12 <esolangs> [[Esomachine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93574&oldid=93573 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+25) Amended the orthography by replacing paramether with parameter and rectified further instances of cacography.
00:51:57 <esolangs> [[Esomachine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93575&oldid=93574 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+184) Added an infinite cat program as a further example.
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02:55:02 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93576&oldid=93568 * IkenusDisnem * (+37) commands list some unclear description
03:47:13 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93577&oldid=93576 * IkenusDisnem * (+0) Mixed up commands
07:32:02 <oerjan> for having four arms, lady steelgarter has surprisingly little trouble fitting.
07:34:00 <oerjan> also, those two better hope lucrezia still really needs them.
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14:00:15 <wib_jonas> so this new company notebook has only two USB-A connectors and two USB-C connectors. yesterday both USB-A connectors were still working, today one of them is dead. I was planning to buy a cheap USB HUB for this, but now I'll have to look for one with a USB-C connector on the host side rather than with a USB-A, if such a design exists.
14:01:09 <wib_jonas> Why the heck can't they put more USB-A connectors to this stupid notebook? And why don't they put at least one USB 3 capable USB-A connector? It's not even a cheap notebook.
14:03:37 <fizzie> My work laptop has two USB-C connectors, and one proprietary "mini-Ethernet" thing that could hypothetically (with the right sort of adapter) be converted to a RJ-45 connector, but they've been positioned so that if you plug the adapter in the mini-Ethernet connector, it's physically impossible to plug anything in the other USB-C connector. Even though AFAIK they don't share any resources or
14:16:31 <wib_jonas> I confirmed that USB hubs with USB-C connector exist
14:23:49 <fizzie> I'm using my monitor as extra USB-A ports for that laptop, but it only does USB 2.0 speeds, even though at least on paper supposedly doing DP alt mode for these monitor resolutions and refresh rates should leave enough bandwidth for USB 3.0. Fortunately nothing plugged in it really needs USB 3.0 anyway.
14:25:57 <fizzie> There's a toggle called "USB-C Prioritization" in the monitor menus that can be changed between "High Resolution" and "High Data Speed" that sounded like it could affect that, but it doesn't.
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14:32:10 <wib_jonas> I'm still on the work trip abroad with bad hotel wifi by the way, so my connection will break even more often than usual
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20:33:30 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93582&oldid=93511 * DanielE * (-9)
20:34:08 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93583&oldid=93582 * DanielE * (+34) /* Hello world */
20:34:59 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93584&oldid=93583 * DanielE * (+5) /* Truth machine */
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21:43:30 <esolangs> [[Trueclone]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93585&oldid=78071 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+169) Improved the formatting.
21:44:50 <esolangs> [[Trueclone]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93586&oldid=93585 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+169) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the trueclone programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
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22:22:08 <esolangs> [[Baa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93588&oldid=92384 * CappyIsCrappy * (+141) /* Print every Unicode character */
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01:12:54 <fizzie> Aw. There's been a perennial thing with btrfs where they say they're working on allowing per-subvolume redundancy levels, so that you could say "here's my two drives, make sure all files in /foo have the data stored on both drives but don't bother for /bar" (because /bar just has things that can be regenerated), without having to decide in advance how to split the storage between /foo and /bar.
01:12:56 <fizzie> But they never seem to make any progress with that feature. So I thought "hmm, maybe I'll just look into ZFS, since that's the fancy filesystem with features, and I hear OpenZFS is all good now". But ZFS doesn't have that either!
01:27:29 <oerjan> . o O ( maybe it's actually NP-complete for some subtle reason )
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09:36:15 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93593&oldid=93592 * DanielE * (-1) /* Hello world */
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10:20:24 <esolangs> [[Xjansk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93595&oldid=93594 * DanielE * (+7) /* square */
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19:21:25 <esolangs> [[User:SpideyZac]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93598 * SpideyZac * (+104) Created page with "Hi! I'm Zac and I'm creating an Esolang called Baseball which is based off of the sport, well, Baseball!"
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20:24:51 <esolangs> [[User:Poggingfish]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93603 * Poggingfish * (+133) Created page with "Hey guys! Its me dylan aka poggingfish. I am currently working on quite a few languages that you may see pop up here sometime soon :D"
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07:23:29 <zzo38> I wrote a specification of "Generalized Fossil" (although a few parts are incomplete).
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19:23:52 <esolangs> [[User:MinekPo1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93611 * MinekPo1 * (+55) Created page with "hello ig [[https://com.github.com/MinekPo1 my github]]"
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20:47:20 <b_jonas> fungot, why do dishwashers have so much trouble cleaning mustard when they're so good at cleaning other greasy substances?
20:47:20 <fungot> b_jonas: i shouldn't really say anything as i understand it. one mo'. opinions?
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06:01:10 <river> fungot: we don't actually /need/ gravity, right?
06:01:10 <fungot> river: it has underlying lambdas. the first item for which the professor asked for a reason
07:10:13 <shachaf> Underlying lambdas? You mean like the cosmological constant?
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08:25:15 <int-e> it's lambdas all the way down
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10:34:01 <b_jonas> a river that thinks they can flow without gravity. .
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14:16:18 <b_jonas> fungot, does any place in the world still use the stupid measurement system where the measurement units are defined based on the size and weight of the emperor's body and when there's a new emperor (or a child emperor grows) they don't just replace all coins but also all rulers and weight scales?
14:16:18 <fungot> b_jonas: depends on what addition is too old... using 2nd fnord fnord
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01:40:02 <b_jonas> fungot, how many legs do Star Wars quadducks have?
01:40:02 <fungot> b_jonas: what do you use? :) ( i.e., what stuff got loaded? then, welcome
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02:52:48 <zzo38> Features I want in a spreadsheet program include: You can write extensions in C, and that the file consists of pages where each page has row zones and column zones, each zone containing a row or column of cells, and you can assign formulas/formats to an entire row or column within a zone if wanted, and both numbered and named references, and does not use HTML and Unicode.
02:53:14 <zzo38> Is there such a FOSS program for Linux? I have not been able to find any; I suppose I will have to write my own if there isn't any?
03:00:49 <b_jonas> I'm afraid that sounds so specific that if you want it you'll have to write it yourself
03:02:21 <b_jonas> don't take that the wrong way, the same is true for some software that I want
03:07:47 <zzo38> Some other programs support extensions in Python, Ruby, JavaScript, etc, but not in C. I don't know if others have zones like I described, either. (What did you want?)
03:16:18 <b_jonas> zzo38: well, one of the things I'd like is a text editor. I want it to do exactly what I want and not much more. one difficult part is that I mustn't overcomplicate it, because then my mistakes would cause unpredictable bugs. however,
03:16:43 <b_jonas> I do want a full undo history, and that does require some amount of complications.
03:17:59 <b_jonas> also one feature that I'd like is a built-in table mode which can lay out a tab-separated csv with the columns aligned.
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03:58:11 <zzo38> Use of SQLite will probably solve many things (although it uses Unicode, but the functions can be overridden if I need non-ASCII text, anyways), such as the file format, extension loading, and expression parser. However, there are still some complications in such a case.
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17:01:41 <b_jonas> fungot, why does this channel have so few on-top conversations these days, do you contain chemicals known by the state of California to cause cancer or other birth defects, and do you even lift?
17:01:42 <fungot> b_jonas: lovely typo :) that's another reason i didn't think they were made for normal programming," to make a fn that takes arbitrary args and that always puts the output in your buffer? or is it
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17:03:43 <Corbin> fungot: We get it, you vape Prop 65 chemicals.
17:03:43 <fungot> Corbin: aww josh that's not true
17:05:47 <b_jonas> fungot: be careful, even oxygen and nitrogen and carbon dioxide count these days. I'm not sure there's even any chemical not affected. unless maybe it's ones that kill you instantly.
17:05:47 <fungot> b_jonas: guess you really are going to heaven for you because of your talk somewhere?: ( define ( fnord conn. fnord)
17:11:51 <definitelya__> fungot, make that fn put its output in my buffer. uwu
17:11:51 <fungot> definitelya__: there is more fragmentation between scheme systems, unfortunately)
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22:47:32 <zzo38> Looking at the list of shortcomings in the Wikipedia article about spreadsheets, it seems that my idea of zoned spreadsheets avoids some of these problems. For example, you can spread a formula across an entire zone, and the numbers of rows/columns can easily be changed, without having to adjust the rest of the file to compensate.
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10:05:21 <river> fungot: 3.142022 r^2
10:05:22 <fungot> river: quite queer. googling for " scheme with types". that's a non-argument.) is similar to cheney but incremental.
10:05:54 <river> zzo38: I thought of a combination between spreadsheets and SQL
10:06:09 <river> i havent heard of zones thoug
10:37:23 <int-e> > let n = 155 in tan (pi/n) * n
10:38:24 <int-e> (area of a circumscribed regular 155-gon of the unit circle)
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20:03:06 <zzo38> river: Can you explain how you will do combination with spreadsheets and SQL, how you expect to do?
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20:20:05 <river> i don't really know
20:20:56 <river> i considered how spreadsheets use rows and columns which are labelled 1,2,3,4,5... and A,B,C,D,E,F,...
20:21:03 <river> now t his is interesting in an of itself
20:21:15 <river> but with SQL tables, you declare the names of the columns
20:21:27 <river> so perhaps you coul dhave a collection of linked small spreadsheets with named columns
20:22:13 <river> now the column labels in a spreadsheet are interesting
20:22:15 <river> A, B, C, ..., Y, Z, AA, AB, ...
20:22:22 <river> this is different to numbers
20:22:27 <river> notice how there is no equivalent to zero
20:22:39 <river> so it is its own numbering system
20:23:10 <river> with only A and B it would be A B AA AB BA BB AAA AAB ABA ABB BAA BAB BBA BBB AAAA and so on
20:23:41 <river> is this different to binary
20:23:53 <river> I thought it was but now it looks the same
20:24:20 <river> i suppose in binary 0 = 00, but in this A != AA
20:26:03 <b_jonas> river: no, that's just one option. Excel has a setting where you can use one of two options, A1 addressing and R1C1 addressing. and of course it's localized, so R1C1 becomes S1O1 if your Excel is set to Hungarian. what happens if that clashes with a defined name? no f'ing clue. I also don't know what happens when a defined name clashes with a localized built-in function name.
20:26:29 <b_jonas> I know you can't define either A1 or R1C1 as a name regardless the setting
20:27:15 <b_jonas> this actually comes up in practice in modern Excel, because it allows more than 256 columns: "nav1" is now an illegal name because there are enough columns that "nav" is a column name.
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20:36:07 <zzo38> I suppose what you describe "A B AA AB BA BB AAA AAB etc" is like bijective binary
20:38:38 <river> good to know a name for it
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20:59:08 <zzo38> But what I was thinking is that sometimes you might have two dimensional data, and you can arrange them in named row/column zones, and the cells within each zone will have row/column numbers. There can also be other zones in the same row/column, so all zones in a zone of rows have the same number of rows of cells, etc.
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00:14:03 <esolangs> [[VurlG]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93758 * Viba * (+3396) Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''vurlG''' is a (work in progress) extension of [[Vurl|vurl]] that provides graphical output as well as mouse/keyboard user interaction, created using LVE. =..."
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02:02:53 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * OpticalStarline * New user account
02:10:16 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * MWI * New user account
02:12:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93760&oldid=93739 * MWI * (+125) /* Introductions */
02:13:47 <esolangs> [[Hexagony]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93761&oldid=53856 * MWI * (+87) Added an interpreter link
02:14:23 <esolangs> [[Hexagony]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93762&oldid=93761 * MWI * (-2) /* Computational class */
02:14:37 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93763&oldid=93760 * OpticalStarline * (+175) /* Introductions */
02:23:33 <esolangs> [[User:OpticalStarline]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93764 * OpticalStarline * (+84) Created page with "Hi! I made [[A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor]]."
02:38:22 <esolangs> [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93765&oldid=93329 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1) /* MacroBeep */
02:38:40 <esolangs> [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93766&oldid=93765 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* MacroBeep */
02:40:42 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93767&oldid=93558 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1) /* External Links */
02:41:18 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93768&oldid=93767 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* Interpreter Status */
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02:46:50 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93770&oldid=93769 * PixelatedStarfish * (+285) /* Instruction Set */
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02:49:15 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93772&oldid=93771 * PixelatedStarfish * (+457) /* Language Paradigm and Memory */
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03:34:53 <esolangs> [[A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93775 * OpticalStarline * (+5437) A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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03:42:13 <int-e> . o O ( An abacus is a wireless device. )
03:43:27 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93777&oldid=93755 * OpticalStarline * (+75) /* A */
03:44:33 <esolangs> [[User:OpticalStarline]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93778&oldid=93764 * OpticalStarline * (+29)
03:45:58 <esolangs> [[A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93779&oldid=93776 * OpticalStarline * (-44)
05:13:26 <HackEso> 1/1:352) <olsner> as always in sweden everything goes to a fixed pattern: thursday is queueing at systembolaget to get beer and schnaps, friday is pickled herring, schnaps and dancing the frog dance around the phallos, saturday is dedicated to being hung over \ 401) <Taneb> So... God has jizzed on everything? <oklopol> have you even READ the bible?
05:14:34 <HackEso> Hackego wants a cookie! *hangs*
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07:09:51 <zzo38> Now I made up a SQLite extension for reading 2D data from a CSV file, giving each record with the row number, column number, and value.
07:18:48 <zzo38> I had some 2D data which I wanted to read from a spreadsheet relating to GURPS Spaceships, with columns for size and rows for type of system. (It is actually even more messy than that; I have not fully decoded it but that is a part of it. SQL queries may be able to make it cleaner.)
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10:26:09 <b_jonas> fungot, is flattery the profession to make pizza dough or the profession to plane wooden planks?
10:26:10 <fungot> b_jonas: i am a big fan of plt's gui but from based on limited experience using mzscheme it didn't seem to overtake the predefined one :)
10:27:16 <b_jonas> fungot: maybe it's making ceramic plates then?
10:27:17 <fungot> b_jonas: i rather liked his fnord wisdom. so we didn't keep that.)
11:23:17 <fizzie> fungot: You liked it, so didn't keep it? How logical.
11:23:18 <fungot> fizzie: i again recommend that you try to do shopping before getting home, because the problem is
11:23:45 <fizzie> fungot: The problem is I can't do the shopping *at* home? Fair enough. There are no shops here.
11:23:45 <fungot> fizzie: well do you know
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13:08:05 <river> regarding the topic of dice rolling
13:08:07 <river> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1861612/how-to-physically-model-construct-a-biased-coin
13:08:19 <river> i came across this very interesting post to use a spherical cap to create arbitrary biased coins
13:09:11 <river> can biased coins replace dN?
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14:39:13 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93873&oldid=93872 * Skye * (+24) add my talk page
14:39:28 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93874 * Skye * (+987) Created page with "'''Swirly''' is a [[forth]] derivative with static types, which compiles to [[uxntal]], created by Isabelle Cedar. It uses state switching to switch between a text, type, comp..."
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14:45:39 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93876&oldid=93875 * Skye * (+0)
14:46:01 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93877&oldid=93876 * Skye * (+30) /* Examples */
14:46:18 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93878&oldid=93877 * Skye * (+12) /* Set the system colors */
14:47:16 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93879&oldid=93878 * Skye * (-14) /* Set the screen size */
14:48:01 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93880&oldid=93879 * Skye * (-23) /* Set the system colors */
14:49:42 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93881&oldid=93880 * Skye * (+146) /* Examples */
14:49:51 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93882&oldid=93881 * Skye * (-1) /* Draw a sprite to the screen */
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14:59:28 <esolangs> [[Swirly]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93884&oldid=93882 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+24) Add category
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15:22:59 <int-e> Hmm that "FZIP!" must be really quiet. (GG)
15:25:40 <fizzie> Sounds like a compression algorithm optimizing speed over compression ratio to me.
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00:16:19 <esolangs> [[Talk:Funge-98]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93889&oldid=46628 * Oshaboy * (+199) /* Name? */
00:27:51 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1254.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
00:28:05 <Sgeo> Was about to do it but typed 1154 and had to think for too long
00:31:40 <esolangs> [[Talk:Funge-98]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93890&oldid=93889 * Oshaboy * (+62)
01:33:13 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93891&oldid=93773 * PixelatedStarfish * (-2) /* Instruction Set */
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03:18:30 <esolangs> [[Vurl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93893&oldid=93759 * Viba * (+340)
03:19:16 <esolangs> [[Vurl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93894&oldid=93893 * Viba * (-24) /* collatz sequence */
03:46:10 <esolangs> [[MacroBeep]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93895&oldid=93892 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* External Links */
03:47:01 <esolangs> [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93896&oldid=93766 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* MacroBeep */
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10:32:18 <esolangs> [[Dimensional]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93902&oldid=93901 * NutronStar45 * (+1) The last edit was a major edit
10:33:11 <esolangs> [[User:NutronStar45]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93903&oldid=93862 * NutronStar45 * (+20)
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11:37:39 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93904&oldid=93857 * BowlingPizzaBall * (-13) /* Befunk */ That ain't a dead link, silly
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12:45:05 <esolangs> [[ShitLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93907&oldid=93650 * Idkwhattoget * (+55)
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13:28:30 <esolangs> [[User:TheTermProgrammer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93909 * TheTermProgrammer * (+293) Created page with "==TheTermProgrammer== aka Cristian Cestola, is an italian 14 years old boy with the passion for programming and for making programming languages. The only project that is bei..."
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16:16:49 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93910&oldid=93908 * Chashofficial * (+127) /* Introductions */
16:17:02 <esolangs> [[Poinal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93911 * Chashofficial * (+3129) basically a programming language created for fun
16:18:02 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93912&oldid=93710 * Chashofficial * (+74) /* General languages */
16:47:54 <esolangs> [[Cerberus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93913&oldid=79903 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+351) Rectified the truth-machine by inserting a duplication command prior to the marker jumping and added an infinite cat program as a second example.
16:49:12 <esolangs> [[Cerberus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93914&oldid=93913 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+239) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Cerberus programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
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20:32:40 <Sgeo> https://www.quaxio.com/qrquine/
20:32:48 <Sgeo> (Yes I did see this on Twitter >.> )
21:00:40 <int-e> Can you make a png of this kind? (people have made gzip quines, so this isn't *entirely* unchartered territory)
21:02:36 <esolangs> [[Fragile]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93917 * Otesunki * (+704) inb4 fragile-256, the antigolflang
21:17:25 <fizzie> Very nice, but surely it should have been called a "qruine" instead.
21:28:45 <esolangs> [[User:DigitalDetective47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93918&oldid=93428 * DigitalDetective47 * (+91) Undo revision 93428 by [[Special:Contributions/DigitalDetective47|DigitalDetective47]] ([[User talk:DigitalDetective47|talk]])
21:37:55 <river> a png that displays itself base64 encoded?
21:38:09 <river> I imagine it is literally impossible, but I have no reason for why I think that
21:41:42 <int-e> river: QR codes is what I had in mind (there is a binary mode, so you /can/ encode a png)
21:42:36 <int-e> Only 2953 bytes though, that may be too small to pull anything like this off.
21:43:36 <int-e> (that number is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code#Storage)
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21:56:19 <esolangs> [[OLNMLNE]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93919&oldid=84144 * Grs * (-9283) Deleted page contents
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23:57:58 <fizzie> fungot: You okay, post-upgrade?
23:57:59 <fungot> fizzie: ok lazy... im talking ' normal' macro if a macro that quotes the function :) that parses an expresion like this ' ( 2 3) ( define ( u) is returning t in gsi
00:53:48 <esolangs> [[A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93922&oldid=93916 * OpticalStarline * (+44) Fixed inconsistencies between the order of popped values when used in math operations. Added additional snark.
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02:18:04 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * DigitalDetective47 * uploaded "[[File:Oneway.png]]": One-way US traffic sign.
02:32:16 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93925 * DigitalDetective47 * (+5652) Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=[[File:Oneway.png|100px]]}} [[File:Oneway.png|100px]] is an esoteric programming language created by [[User:DigitalDetective47]] based on oneway mov..."
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02:48:06 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93926&oldid=93925 * DigitalDetective47 * (+528) /* Commands */ Added block commands
02:54:17 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93927&oldid=93883 * DigitalDetective47 * (+41) /* O */ Add ONE WAY
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03:09:10 <esolangs> [[User:DigitalDetective47]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93929&oldid=93918 * DigitalDetective47 * (-91) Undo revision 93918 by [[Special:Contributions/DigitalDetective47|DigitalDetective47]] ([[User talk:DigitalDetective47|talk]])
03:10:40 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93930&oldid=93926 * DigitalDetective47 * (+12) Add alt text for language title
03:13:05 <esolangs> [[User:DigitalDetective47]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93931&oldid=93929 * DigitalDetective47 * (+400) Add ONE WAY
03:13:30 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93932&oldid=93927 * DigitalDetective47 * (+12) /* O */ Add alt text to ONE WAY's title.
03:17:13 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93933&oldid=93930 * DigitalDetective47 * (+64) /* Commands */ Add dupe command
03:19:18 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93934&oldid=93933 * DigitalDetective47 * (+88) /* str */ Add nl
03:21:41 <esolangs> [[ONE WAY]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93935&oldid=93934 * DigitalDetective47 * (+141) /* Examples */ Add truth-machine
03:26:32 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93936&oldid=93904 * DigitalDetective47 * (+208) /* Implementations */ Add ONE WAY
03:27:35 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93937&oldid=93928 * DigitalDetective47 * (+5) /* ONE WAY */ Remove alt text
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08:47:38 <b_jonas> "<int-e> Can you make a png of this kind?" => oh that's actually a good question! I suspect the answer is yes
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08:48:17 <b_jonas> yes as in it's possible, not necessarily that it's worth anyone's time to make one
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12:25:32 <Taneb> (Girl Genius) I suspect Lucrezia's solution to not having an organic body is that she has two perfectly good organic bodies right there that she could use
12:27:30 <river> well that sounds ominous!
12:29:40 <int-e> Taneb: I believe the technical term is "human resources"
12:31:40 <int-e> Taneb: that last panel isn't exactly subtle
12:32:15 <int-e> though she could be breaking the fourth wall, heh
12:47:35 <Taneb> I wonder if next Wednesday we might find out why Monahan wears a mask
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16:20:48 <wib_jonas> Taneb: "I suspect Lucrezia's solution to not having an organic body is that she has two perfectly good organic bodies right there that she could use" => hmm. Paris decided to pilot the ship without an organic body https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1141.html rather than possess a body cloned from his own https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1135.html ,
16:20:49 <wib_jonas> but I think it never occurred to him to possess the other characters' body
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17:02:48 <Taneb> b_jonas: I think Paris is a lot more concerned with, like, other people's feelings and continued sentience than Lucrezia is
17:06:11 <Corbin> I think Lucy isn't being honest.
17:09:28 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Ardemit * New user account
17:17:49 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93956&oldid=93910 * Ardemit * (+456) Added my introduction Ardemit
17:21:12 <Taneb> Corbin: that's a given, but about what in particular?
17:24:30 <Corbin> Taneb: Fair. In the latest pages, I think she's misrepresenting queenhood.
17:28:54 <esolangs> [[Left-Right March]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93957&oldid=91471 * DigitalDetective47 * (+123) /* Text dump program generator */ Add rectwrap to program
17:33:19 <Taneb> Corbin: hmm. I suspect she may be making the same mistake as when she tried to swordfight Zeetha while in Agatha's body. She may _know_ how to do more things, but her body won't have the experience to actually _do_ it well
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20:34:29 <esolangs> [[FuSS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93961&oldid=93959 * MinekPo1 * (+37)
20:36:06 <esolangs> [[Mepytaruon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93962 * Ardemit * (+8342) Creating the page
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21:28:30 <esolangs> [[Mepytaruon]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93971&oldid=93970 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+5) Link to userpage
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00:07:07 <esolangs> [[Smallfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93973&oldid=74905 * Squidmanescape * (+89) I added this implementation.
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01:45:29 <razetime> are there plans to change the featured language?
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02:15:08 <fizzie> Yes, but they don't seem to be coming into fruition.
02:15:20 <fizzie> For example, I've had a plan to feature Befunge for the last three or so years, since it's already a proposed candidate, but a part of that plan is to give the article a lick of paint first, and I never get around to.
02:18:37 <razetime> hm. Is there a way i can help?
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02:38:30 <b_jonas> fizzie: Befunge is not currently proposed. I used to propose it, but I revoked my proposal in favor of nopfunge because someone added a silly rule that you can only propose one language as featured.
02:40:18 <b_jonas> of course that's just a stupid technicality, if you want to feature it you can always just propose it yourself, or make it featured without a proposal or whatever
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04:55:01 <zzo38> In Magic: the Gathering, what is the effect of more than one Raging River card (or a copied triggered ability)? Does each one double the number of labels, or are multiples redundant, or do multiples cancel each other out, or does it make your creatures unblockable, or something else?
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05:52:08 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93979&oldid=93577 * IkenusDisnem * (-4) Compiler link
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17:10:16 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93990&oldid=93985 * LinceLazuli * (+164)
18:05:38 <esolangs> [[Behaviour]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93991 * LinceLazuli * (+1784) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Behaviour |paradigms=imperative |author=[https://github.com/FabricioLince Lince Lazuli] |year=[[:Category:2021|2021]] |class=:Category:Turing comple..."
18:08:10 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93992&oldid=93987 * LinceLazuli * (+16) /* B */
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20:37:21 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93993&oldid=93990 * WhoeverKnew123 * (+181) /* Introductions */
20:40:52 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * WhoeverKnew123 * uploaded "[[File:Me.png]]"
20:41:39 <esolangs> [[User:WhoeverKnew123]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93995 * WhoeverKnew123 * (+119) Created page with "[[File:Me.png|thumb]] Hellooo I'm WhoeverKnew123 (normally from [http://scratch.mit.edu/users/WhoeverKnew123 Scratch])"
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02:17:44 <zzo38> Now I implemented the picture format that they used on Murdoch Mysteries on television (using Morse code)
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02:18:13 <zzo38> (Is there a name of this format?)
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02:21:00 <zzo38> I also implemented a compact variant with everything on one line, prefixed by the width.
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03:17:34 <esolangs> [[Wave]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94001 * WhoeverKnew123 * (+1329) Created page with "'''Wave''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] made by [[User:WhoeverKnew123]]. [[File:Hello World in Wavw.png|thumb|alt=Hello World|Hello World in Wave esolang]] ~! ST..."
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03:45:45 <esolangs> [[(top, height)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94009&oldid=91830 * Squidmanescape * (+9) /* Tips */
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05:14:22 <HackEso> smlist 537: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale
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06:12:12 <zzo38> (The format is a sequence of letters/numbers, which can be encoded as Morse code and then each dot and dash corresponds to the value of the pixel; spaces between letters are ignored.)
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07:16:51 <zzo38> Someone told me that there is a name for this format but that they do not remember what it is.
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15:18:28 <esolangs> [[Binerdy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94013&oldid=94012 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+301) Added two further examples, one being an infinitely repeating version of the cat program, the other realizing a truth-machine.
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17:50:37 <esolangs> [[Broccoli]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94018 * Mathieucaroff * (+715) Create the language page Broccoli
17:52:00 <esolangs> [[User:WhoeverKnew123]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94019&oldid=94000 * WhoeverKnew123 * (+78)
17:52:26 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94020&oldid=94007 * Mathieucaroff * (+15) /* B */ Add Broccoli to the language list
18:02:20 <esolangs> [[Broccoli]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94021&oldid=94018 * Mathieucaroff * (+180)
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19:16:05 <river> https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/245345
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21:51:59 <esolangs> [[Mepytaruon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94031&oldid=94029 * Ardemit * (+322) Clearer and stricter rules for interpreters; one change in language specification (Yellow/Blue tiles variant 8)
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21:59:31 <esolangs> [[Mepytaruon]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94034&oldid=94031 * Ardemit * (-1) A minor formatting mistake
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05:12:10 <esolangs> [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94052&oldid=94051 * Squidmanescape * (+83) Added Befunge-93 interpreter.
05:24:24 <esolangs> [[Metafractran]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94053&oldid=86561 * Squidmanescape * (+25) I believe this is implemented, due to the existence of an interpreter.
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10:59:34 <int-e> who came up with that silly tap-the-version-7-times dance?
11:00:03 <int-e> (got a new android device, I had forgotten that bit)
11:01:40 <fizzie> I imagine I could hypothetically find out from version control who added the code for it, but that isn't necessarily who came up with it.
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11:10:37 <fizzie> Heh, Dianne Hackborn, apparently: https://cs.android.com/android/_/android/platform/packages/apps/Settings/+/caefa9b5f03b595b81729407e4123fee18a4342c
11:15:55 <fizzie> As for who came up with it, the linked bug suggests Hiroshi Lockheimer and/or Matias Duarte (who I feel okay naming since both have Wikipedia articles so are therefore public figures).
11:17:08 <sknebel> you'll find the same pattern in all kinds of embedded software. I know at least two car navigation/entertainment platforms that have variants of the same
11:18:02 <int-e> I mean... it is cute. Beats having to break your fingers while booting up a device (for example... well that's also a thing for some android devices if you want to activate the bootloader menu).
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13:40:22 <wib_jonas> int-e: I recently wanted to boot my previous work laptop to bios setup mode. the solution is to first boot into windows, then pull the power from it, then reboot so it does the full slow reboot rather than a fast boot to windows, then mash the keys. and it was for naught because the backlighting of the internal LCD display is broken, so I could
13:40:22 <wib_jonas> just barely see that it's in the setup but couldn't see the specifics, and it wouldn't show the setup on the external display.
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20:29:48 <zzo38> If I want to add a file in a software project which describes things to be considered by other people who are doing distribution, package manager, porting the program to other computers, and related things, then what might such a file be called? There are more than one thing but they are related in some ways since some details will be relevant to more than one case, while others are only one.
21:15:34 <Corbin> `PORTING` is one traditional name. There's probably others.
21:15:36 <HackEso> PORTING`? No such file or directory
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01:07:35 <zzo38> Other than the file name, what are some such considerations (about the things that I mentioned) that I might have missed?
01:15:35 <esolangs> [[Pi Calculus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94065&oldid=94058 * Squidmanescape * (+25) There are many implementations, so it is implemented.
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04:13:04 <esolangs> [[User:Lemonz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94080 * Lemonz * (+538) Oh god I want to literally fall off a bridge if it takes 2 million years for my noticement.
05:07:49 <esolangs> [[DML]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94081 * AndrewBayly * (+1625) Created page with "DML - Directed Multigraph Language, is an esoteric programming language. DML may be considered a cellular automaton, though the underlying topology is not a grid of squares, b..."
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05:35:42 <zzo38> I asked on here before about passing a structure of two 32-bit integers by value in a argument and as a return value of a function in C. I am using 64-bit x86, and my question had been answered for that case. But, what is the efficiency of this for 32-bit ARM and 64-bit ARM?
06:21:37 <shachaf> Presumably the calling convention varies by platform.
06:26:20 <shachaf> It looks to me from just typing some code into a compiler that a struct of two 32-bit integers is represented as a single 64-bit integer.
06:26:24 <shachaf> At least in return values?
06:27:54 <zzo38> At least I know this is the case for 64-bit x86 since it has been tried before. However, the code may run on systems other than 64-bit x86, such as 32-bit x86, 64-bit ARM, and 32-bit ARM.
06:28:00 <shachaf> I just passed too high of an optimization flag and it tried to be tricky with vector instructions.
06:28:20 <shachaf> I was testing for "ARM64 gcc" on Godbolt, whatever that is.
06:28:56 <shachaf> E.g. https://godbolt.org/z/rnzo8s7Wo
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15:45:42 <esolangs> [[Esme]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94096&oldid=89429 * Squidmanescape * (-22) I don't think "Shameful" is a category.
15:47:38 <int-e> Sigh. So yes, Android's USB tethering just makes the device act as a USB network device. So... you get an easy local connection (with a fixed IP on their side, 192.168.42.129). What you don't get is... anything that would enable your end to be the default gateway (via dhcp or manual configuration). Not without rooting the device, that is.
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17:37:28 <esolangs> [[Fact]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94101&oldid=25390 * Squidmanescape * (+25) It is implemented in the IRC bot.
17:41:35 <esolangs> [[Gray Snail]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94102&oldid=90930 * Squidmanescape * (-7) these?
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18:01:14 <esolangs> [[Kolmogorov]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94107&oldid=88851 * Squidmanescape * (+24) It seems to have been implemented.
18:41:13 <esolangs> [[Track]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94108&oldid=90950 * Squidmanescape * (+25) It has an implementation.
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22:42:40 <esolangs> [[SOS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94119 * Celtschk * (+9343) SOS is a purely stack based esoteric programming language
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00:44:49 <b_jonas> suppose I want to specify a programming language that is kind of like J in that it's golfy but not as golfy as some of these crazy modern golf languages, and is intended to work well for numeric computations and as a calculator for quickly testing stuff. suppose it's esoteric only in as much as it's golfy and trying out lots of new crazy ideas 90% of which are probably bad ideas but nothing that I
00:44:55 <b_jonas> definitely know is a bad idea and add only for weirdness's sake.
00:46:06 <b_jonas> in that case, would it be too evil to (1) use the - sign to mean reverse subtraction, so that 1-9 results in 8? (2) use < as the less than comparison operator but > for something entirely different because I don't need a short notation for both less than and greater than comparison and ascii punctuation is expensive?
00:46:30 <ais523> "trying out lots of new crazy ideas 90% of which are probably bad ideas but nothing that I definitely know is a bad idea and add only for weirdness's sake" is probably one of the most productive things you can do when creating a programming language, in terms of informing future languages
00:47:30 <ais523> languages like Brachylog (golfy, but not so much as the modern most-golfy languages) manage with lots of redundant use of single-byte tokens, though
00:47:33 <b_jonas> ais523: yeah, and it's really only future languages, because many of those ideas are ones that can't easily be removed from the language later
00:48:34 <ais523> perhaps all noncommutative operators should have reversed operands? then - as reverse-subtract doesn't seem so starnge
00:49:38 <b_jonas> all of them? including less than? hmm, I haven't considered that
00:50:51 <ais523> in a language I'm working on, all objects have values as booleans that can be unrelated to their values as integers/strings
00:51:10 <ais523> so you can make - and less-than the same operation, by having subtraction set the truthiness of the result based on its sign
00:51:48 <ais523> (this is a similar idea to overloading operators based on their return type, but easier to specify and it doesn't need any static analysis)
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04:16:18 <esolangs> [[@everyone]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94135 * Lemonz * (+7985) please improve
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07:07:45 <zzo38> I have thought of something a bit similar before in some other designs that I had done, although instead an instruction that stores a result will also store a boolean value with it, and I think subtraction did work like you described (if I remember correctly).
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16:40:23 <esolangs> [[SOS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94148&oldid=94119 * Celtschk * (+97) The language indeed is Turing complete
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19:19:49 <esolangs> [[User:Gapples2]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94153 * Gapples2 * (+97) Created page with "Created the low level esoteric language [[Bitflipper]]. Also making an interpreter for it in C++."
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23:04:11 <b_jonas> fungot, what's the difference between a bucket and a pail?
23:04:11 <fungot> b_jonas: no not for ioccc of course...
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00:46:34 <esolangs> [[David Madore]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94169&oldid=65702 * B jonas * (+19) make the statement about IOCCC sound sillier
00:47:09 <b_jonas> (not very original, I know, his writeup says the same thing, but still, I think it's better for that article)
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04:31:13 <zzo38> Although I had starting making zoned spreadsheet program (although not much, yet), I had consider: There should be possibility to assign a formula to a single cell, to a row or column within a zone, and to an entire zone; are there considerations of this having to do with user interface, internal data structures, file format, etc?
04:32:40 <zzo38> Another thing I had consider would be the syntax and capability of ranges. For example, to reference an entire column within another zone in the same column as this one, in the same column of cells as this one. Another example might be a range of all rows above in this zone but one column left in the same zone.
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12:43:28 <Soni> we wish programming was touchscreen accessible sometimes
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12:45:02 <int-e> *we* wish touch screens were less common
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12:48:34 <Soni> we use pronouns
12:49:09 <Soni> but seriously why isn't there a touchscreen esolang
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12:50:21 <Corbin> There are dozens to hundreds of programmers using drawing tablets, and there are interfaces intended for a stylus.
12:50:33 <Corbin> A touchscreen is not really much different from a mouse.
12:50:38 <int-e> . o O ( To program in Fingering you need to use Rude Gestures. )
12:51:05 <Corbin> And of course it's possible to put nine buttons onto a keypad (the ninth is Backspace) for a simple Brainfuck experience.
12:51:20 <int-e> I hate that the fingers cover the spot you're trying to interact with.
12:51:29 <int-e> Mouse pointers are much better at this.
12:51:56 <Soni> just let us swipe code to delete
12:52:14 <Soni> optimize for optimization
12:52:58 <int-e> There are other issues... like leaving fingerprints (the alternative would be to wash my hands every 10 minutes or so) ...and at least with my previous tablet, trouble operating the thing when the fingers were too dry. Probably a sensitivity issue.
12:53:38 <Corbin> Why does the underlying language need to be designed for this? It's a UX issue, I think. Consider very old mainframes with "toggle entry" (term?) for booting; to enter the initial program, you'd have to flip a bank of switches to represent each word in the program, and then hit a button to execute the word, repeated for each word in the program.
12:55:05 <int-e> Yeah, it's in the same category of shallow esolang concepts as another syntax for Brainfuck...
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12:57:50 <Franciman> isn't ux part of language design, Corbin ?
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12:58:34 <Franciman> if it isn't, it means that you delegated that part to somebody else
12:58:38 <int-e> but many people here care more about semantics
12:58:39 <Soni> is visual programming (scratch, blockly, etc) not esolang?
13:01:23 <sknebel> hm, not sure they are esolangs or not. I guess in some parts they are (trying unusual things), but the goal is not necessarily to explore those but to achieve some other useful thing?
13:02:02 <sknebel> also a bit of a gradient between "language optimized for touch editing" vs "touch optimized editor for a language"
13:03:13 <sknebel> e.g. a language with flow graphs etc is clearly "visual", vs a block-y editor with templates for a textual language
13:03:38 <sknebel> e.g. scratch is structurally something you could also type, it just replaces typing with blocks
13:04:10 <sknebel> (afaik, not looked at it in detail in ages)
13:07:52 <int-e> I have an idea why programming languages are still mostly textual; it's connected to information density. Because, in the end, you track *a lot* of information when programming, and it helps to have as much of it on screen as possible at each moment in time. And there, text wins over graphics.
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13:12:41 <Soni> have you ever used an on screen keyboard?
13:12:56 <int-e> I don't program on tablets.
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13:13:24 <int-e> Computers have keyboards. If they don't, they don't count. :-P
13:13:37 <Soni> not everyone can use a keyboard
13:23:11 <Corbin> Franciman: One of the important ideas in UX is "input methods", or HCI "human-computer interfaces". These methods are partially language-dependent, but they implement patterns which are not language-dependent.
13:29:38 <fizzie> Neal Stephenson, in Snow Crash, on the topic of visual programming: https://0x0.st/oNkI.txt
13:29:40 <fizzie> (Opinions expressed may not reflect mine.)
13:33:25 <Corbin> It's interesting that he mentions dimensionality. Text doesn't have to be one- or two-dimensional; that's entirely up to conventions.
13:35:15 <b_jonas> most of the text on my shelves is three-dimensional. it's printed in books that have pages, the pages have lines, the lines have characters
13:35:55 <b_jonas> the two-dimensional ones are out on the street, annoying election campaign ads.
13:39:58 <Corbin> That's an interesting idea. Most of my books contain two-dimensional text; exceptions include GEB and "House of Leaves". Maybe some of the comic books count; "Watchmen", maybe?
13:41:09 <b_jonas> you books have two-dimensional text rather than three? are they all rolled-up codexes?
13:42:17 <Corbin> They might as well be. Often they're only one-dimensional; text could be reflowed on each page and inside each paragraph without issues. The music books and some code books, like the OpenGL books, couldn't be reflowed like that; they're 2D.
13:42:35 <Taneb> They're 2D but with page-wrapping
13:43:43 <Corbin> "House of Leaves" has 3D whitespace structures inside the book. The whitespace persists from page to page, like a 3D printer. GEB has 2D images in the center of its 3D pages. "Watchmen" has similar 3D positioning inside its chapters, when bound as a single omnibus.
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14:05:15 <esolangs> [[Stacks of Queues]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94179&oldid=94178 * Jemhunter * (-4) Moved links to headers of examples
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16:02:51 <HackEso> 1/1:81) <fax> sekuoir: that's just gay sex <sekuoir> I am learning though! \ 1258) <shachaf> pikhq: The Google way isn't exactly NIH. They have their own variant of it.
16:03:26 <pikhq> Oh is that what I did with that one guy?
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16:29:45 <HackEso> 1259) <ais523> editor flame wars are fun, I typically take the side of emacs and vim versus everything else <ais523> normally I can get most of the emacs /and/ vim users round to my side, thus catching out all the other-editor-users who thought they were safe
16:29:58 <fizzie> Just wanted to confirm there was a single-quote analogue of `".
16:30:13 <fizzie> Would've been weird if there wasn't, but you never know here.
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17:22:42 <zzo38> I don't like touch screen so much; keyboard (and sometimes also the mouse in addition to keyboard) is better, I think.
17:40:49 <esolangs> [[Broccoli]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94180&oldid=94028 * Mathieucaroff * (+24)
17:49:51 <esolangs> [[Broccoli]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94181&oldid=94180 * Mathieucaroff * (+7)
17:49:57 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94182&oldid=94026 * Mathieucaroff * (+91)
17:56:26 <pikhq> int-e: i mean it was sex, and pretty gay, so
17:56:38 <pikhq> and we were both googlers at the time,
18:29:42 <int-e> pikhq: I don't know your many aliases
18:30:29 <pikhq> i'm just shitposting at the implication that google nih'd gay sex
18:31:21 <int-e> Okay. So "...not exactly?" still seems to be an apt reply to me :-P
18:31:45 <int-e> Because it chimes in with the "They have their own variant of it." part :-P
18:31:52 <int-e> Which is how I intended it.
18:39:16 * pikhq should probably work instead of irc
18:39:22 <pikhq> not that'll necessarily stop me
19:23:46 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94183&oldid=94182 * Celtschk * (+349) /* Sophie */ added SOS
19:33:38 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94184&oldid=93937 * Celtschk * (+156) /* Sortle */ Added SOS
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03:40:27 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94189&oldid=94170 * Lemonz * (+29) /* Non-alphabetic */
03:52:15 <esolangs> [[HASSL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94190&oldid=93107 * Ethan T. Stanger * (+45)
03:55:31 <esolangs> [[HASSL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94191&oldid=94190 * Ethan T. Stanger * (+660) Added cat implementation details
03:57:56 <esolangs> [[HASSL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94192&oldid=94191 * Ethan T. Stanger * (+172) Added additional info in the cat program pretext
03:58:36 <esolangs> [[HASSL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94193&oldid=94192 * Ethan T. Stanger * (-13)
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07:48:56 <Taneb> (Girl Genius) is Monahan going to find out what Igneous Heterodyne did
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08:30:34 <Taneb> Also I feel like I've seen Monahan's face before
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08:43:03 <esolangs> [[SOS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94196&oldid=94195 * Celtschk * (-23) Removed explicit [[Category::Languages]] since the template already adds it
08:46:38 <esolangs> [[SOS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94197&oldid=94196 * Celtschk * (+207) /* Example programs */ Added infinite loop
09:05:11 <esolangs> [[SOS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94198&oldid=94197 * Celtschk * (+1092) /* Example programs */ Added looping counter example
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11:56:26 <int-e> . o O ( Writing dead code for fun an profit. )
12:00:05 <fizzie> I wrote dead code just the other day, and it was for work purposes, so I guess it was for profit.
12:00:11 <fizzie> (Well, dead unless tests count. It was code for someone else to add an actual use of, to make it less dead.)
12:02:15 <int-e> Well, in my case the code is about to get animated... just need to figure out how. :P
12:05:38 <int-e> But in the meantime, rustc is generating plenty of dead code warnings.
12:10:40 <fizzie> Go makes unused variables a compile error, which might be the most frequent complaint people have. Not dead code, though.
12:11:43 <int-e> Yes, making those an error is annoying while writing code.
12:12:31 <int-e> [I know! I *will* use it later. In the meantime, please tell me whether what I have so far can be compiled...]
12:13:10 <int-e> But eh, I have used Go once. I don't particularly like it.
12:13:35 <int-e> Have they figured out generics?
12:13:39 <fizzie> The canonical workaround is to throw in a `_ = foo` to make it "used", but it can be a little annoying.
12:14:44 <fizzie> "Figured out" might be a bit too much to say, but yes in a sense; Go 1.18, released just a week or two ago, has the initial implementation of generics.
12:15:45 <fizzie> None of the standard library, though; that's all still in the "golang.org/x/exp" repository, pending "more experience" before including them in the parts that have the Compatibility Guarantee™.
12:17:08 <int-e> Makes sense for a language feature you've just added
12:17:32 <int-e> But it is something that I missed when I tried using it.
12:18:41 <int-e> (I even made the mistake of peeking behind the curtain to figure out how their containers get around it... I forgot the details but it was pretty awful at the time, messing around with run-time type information IIRC)
12:22:42 <fizzie> One current-generics quirk: there's no clean way to write an expression that produces the zero value of a parameterized type T, if for example you have a function returning (T, error) and would want to do the usual of returning the zero value + a non-nil error. You can do `var zero T; return zero, someError` but that requires an extra declaration, or you can do `return *new(T), someError` but
12:22:44 <fizzie> that just looks weird.
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22:25:33 <Soni> esolang where documentation changes break the API/ABI?
22:26:17 <Soni> also hi pikhq o/
22:27:46 <esolangs> [[SPL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94203&oldid=94202 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+0) Rectified the countdown example which seems to have mistaken the undefined token | (vertical bar) for the input command , (comma).
22:28:31 <esolangs> [[SPL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94204&oldid=94203 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+158) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the SPL programming language on GitHub.
22:29:54 <esolangs> [[SPL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94205&oldid=94204 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+88) Added an infinite cat program as a further example.
22:38:57 <ais523> hmm, maybe the ABI could use things like character numbers within the documentation as unique identifiers
22:39:12 <ais523> e.g. if a function is defined at the 1500th byte of the docs, we use the number 1500 to identify it
22:39:30 <ais523> this seems guaranteed to produce fairly small unique identifiers without collisions, which is good for an ABI
22:39:45 <ais523> in fact I think it has no drawbacks other than the obvious ones
22:40:43 <ais523> (they're fairly big ones though!)
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00:04:41 <esolangs> [[SPL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94207&oldid=94205 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+111) Improved formatting and added a hyperlink to the Hello, world! page.
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10:46:04 <int-e> Oh no, somebody cut the webring!
10:57:57 <int-e> . o O ( https://gist.github.com/int-e/f1d578dbf3df8c93b0e597b0e37ceaea looks much less scary than in emacs (which makes the `unsafe` keyword *bold* and red)
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13:30:27 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94211&oldid=93609 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+10)
13:38:46 <esolangs> [[Xaxa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94212&oldid=94210 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+0)
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13:45:23 <esolangs> [[Mountain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94215&oldid=94214 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-15)
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14:49:59 <esolangs> [[User talk:IkenusDisnem]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94217 * IkenusDisnem * (+169) Created page with "== Please put newer discussions on the top =) == yes pls do it in order --~~~~"
14:50:16 <esolangs> [[User talk:IkenusDisnem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94218&oldid=94217 * IkenusDisnem * (-2) /* Please put newer discussions on the top =) */
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17:09:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94222&oldid=94129 * Marco Devillers * (+246) Marco Devillers edit
17:09:43 <esolangs> [[Egel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94223&oldid=69602 * Marco Devillers * (+854) add an infobox
17:15:08 <esolangs> [[Egel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94224&oldid=94223 * Marco Devillers * (-6) update
17:15:47 <esolangs> [[User:Marco Devillers]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94225 * Marco Devillers * (+53) Created page with "Marco Devillers is the designer of the Egel language."
17:16:54 <esolangs> [[Egel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94226&oldid=94224 * Marco Devillers * (-4) website
17:17:39 <esolangs> [[Egel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94227&oldid=94226 * Marco Devillers * (-4) ain't no toy
17:35:04 <esolangs> [[Egel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94228&oldid=94227 * Marco Devillers * (+88) add introduction
17:38:22 <esolangs> [[Egel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94229&oldid=94228 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+8) Stub
18:02:51 <sprout_> didn't this channel run an egel bot too?
18:03:17 <sprout_> I think. maybe. or something
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18:38:30 <esolangs> [[Egel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94233&oldid=94229 * Marco Devillers * (+23) sasl
19:01:29 <esolangs> [[Egel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94234&oldid=94233 * Marco Devillers * (-44) no self grandeur
19:14:00 <Soni> honestly not sure how to implement such an esolang
19:23:28 <b_jonas> sprout_: weren't you running the egelbot?
19:24:05 <sprout_> b_jonas: I am in #proglangdesign. but didn't you add it to some bot running here?
19:34:21 <b_jonas> sprout_: oh, I tried to run it in HackEso but I gave up
19:34:32 <b_jonas> but HackEso is programmable so you can teach it if you wish
19:36:19 <esolangs> [[KonamiCode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94235&oldid=90708 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) /* Interpreters */ category
19:36:38 <sprout_> oh right. you can run egel standalone but not in repl mode probably?
19:36:57 <sprout_> ah well. thanks for trying anyway
19:51:00 <HackEso> HackEso is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike HackEgo.
19:51:53 <HackEso> HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico!
19:52:26 <b_jonas> also https://esolangs.org/wiki/HackEso thoguh my documentation is very lacking there
19:54:22 <b_jonas> is there a betting pool for what the next generation's name would be?
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20:49:22 <esolangs> [[BITWISEBASE64BITWISEBASE64BITWISEBASE64BITWISE]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94242&oldid=94241 * Lemonz * (+501) /* Other programs */
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20:55:02 <esolangs> [[User:Lemonz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94245&oldid=94208 * Lemonz * (+53) /* Actually a thing language */
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21:03:49 <esolangs> [[Madbrain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94248&oldid=81420 * Gamer * (-704) revamped the code of my implementation
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21:04:35 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94250&oldid=94173 * Lemonz * (+49) /* General languages */
21:04:46 <esolangs> [[User:Lemonz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94251&oldid=94245 * Lemonz * (+11) /* My focus: joke languages!!! */
21:05:14 <esolangs> [[Madbrain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94252&oldid=94248 * Gamer * (+60) fixed the code
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15:12:07 <esolangs> [[Qualm]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94268&oldid=94267 * Wilfreddv * (+14)
15:15:16 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94269&oldid=94232 * Wilfreddv * (+12)
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15:32:21 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94271&oldid=94269 * Dominicentek * (+16) /* L */
15:33:16 <esolangs> [[ImagePath]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94272&oldid=89037 * Dominicentek * (-43) /* Interpreter */
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17:33:52 <esolangs> [[Set script]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94276 * Peter * (+23) Redirected page to [[Setscript]]
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18:58:54 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94280&oldid=94279 * Marco Devillers * (+84) add soul repository
20:08:35 <esolangs> [[Hanoifuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94281&oldid=77776 * Zesterer * (+238)
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20:22:04 <esolangs> [[BITWISEBASE64BITWISEBASE64BITWISEBASE64BITWISE]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94284&oldid=94283 * Lemonz * (+244) /* Other programs */
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23:08:11 <sprout_> https://github.com/egel-lang/soul Soul, an esoteric sole-stack concatenative language
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23:35:00 <esolangs> [[Soul]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94285&oldid=94280 * Marco Devillers * (+1364) Soul agitprop
23:36:13 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94286&oldid=94285 * Marco Devillers * (+0) typo
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23:44:14 <esolangs> [[Qualm]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94288&oldid=94287 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+8) Stub
00:02:43 <zzo38> I had played the GURPS yesterday. (There was permanently the sun light but we managed to use a magic gem to get rid of it.)
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00:06:12 <b_jonas> sprout_: create an entry on the wiki
00:06:47 <sprout_> I did, it's there under Soul language
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02:21:57 <zzo38> I wrote it in my computer in case you like to read: http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+52 Do you like this? (You can change the number in the end of the URL if you want to read the previous one, or the previous one before that, etc. The first one is 1) One stone has labels in Latin. Do you know how to write those words in Latin properly?
02:46:23 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94290&oldid=94289 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+75)
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09:28:12 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94295&oldid=94211 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+34)
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10:19:00 <esolangs> [[Questa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94297&oldid=94294 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+96)
10:19:09 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94298&oldid=94295 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+12)
11:26:10 <esolangs> [[Force of Arch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94299 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+783) Created page with "'''Force of Arch''' is [[Arch]]-based language by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]], which is mix between [[BF]] and Data structure [[Arch]]. ==Commands== {| class="wikitable" |- ! Com..."
11:26:44 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94300&oldid=94298 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+19)
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16:38:29 <esolangs> [[Soul]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94301&oldid=94286 * Marco Devillers * (+860) predefined operators
16:44:03 <esolangs> [[Soul]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94302&oldid=94301 * Marco Devillers * (+285) infobox
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16:57:16 <esolangs> [[Arch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94304&oldid=74181 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+30)
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17:07:54 <sprout> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Soul take a day to work on the interpreter, and then some hours to do the docs
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17:32:48 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94305&oldid=94303 * Marco Devillers * (-21) minimize
17:37:05 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94306&oldid=94305 * Marco Devillers * (+0) typo
17:55:34 <sprout> trace of 'fac 6 print' in Soul: https://pastebin.com/x6X5vi4q
18:07:26 <esolangs> [[Q set]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94307 * Peter * (+19) Redirected page to [[Q-SET]]
18:07:43 <esolangs> [[Qset]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94308 * Peter * (+19) Redirected page to [[Q-SET]]
18:16:07 <esolangs> [[Q-SET]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94309 * Peter * (+254) Created page with "**Q-SET** is a programming language designed by [[User:Peter]]. All data consists of sets of numbers, which may or may not be structured in ordered pairs. It's named after the..."
18:16:21 <esolangs> [[Q-SET]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94310&oldid=94309 * Peter * (+0)
18:51:39 <sprout> put it on Reddit. go, Karma, go! https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/comments/tqftad/soul_an_esoteric_concatenative_language/
19:14:39 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94311&oldid=94306 * Marco Devillers * (+1) typo
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20:06:50 <esolangs> [[Yaren]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94312&oldid=86396 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+70) Improved the formatting of commands.
20:07:40 <esolangs> [[Yaren]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94313&oldid=94312 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+160) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Yaren programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
20:09:56 <esolangs> [[Yaren]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94314&oldid=94313 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+171) Added an infinite cat program as a further example.
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21:33:54 <esolangs> [[Copyright makes no sense]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94316&oldid=94315 * Hakerh400 * (+110)
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22:54:56 <esolangs> [[Copyright makes no sense]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94317&oldid=94316 * Corbin * (+49) Add link to related material on WP.
22:58:08 <int-e> ∃ (f : book → book), f b₁ = b₂ ...yeah that's a bit silly I think
22:58:39 <int-e> to capture the notion of reconstruction
22:59:26 <int-e> (whatever that is supposed to entail legally; copyright cares about reproduction and derived works)
23:03:38 <int-e> also related: http://www.spiderrobinson.com/melancholyelephants.html
23:05:11 <Corbin> It sounds reasonable enough. The overreach might be in the definition of f; the intent was that b2's copyrighted sections could be found within b1 in some permutation, but f is not structurally constrained to merely be a combinator of b1's contents.
23:08:52 <Corbin> Even so, restricting f doesn't seem to actually make things worse, reading the details of the proof. The proof says, roughly: there exists a non-copyrighted book, there exists a copyrighted book, and there exists an f. If that non-copyrighted book is e.g. a dictionary, then the argument is relatively sound.
23:09:32 <Corbin> Indeed, there's a sorites paradox with copyrightability of works which are decomposible into elements or primitives; how much copying is enough to infringe copyright, vs how much original material is required to even qualify for copyright?
23:10:10 <Corbin> If I build a big pile of non-copyrightable media, then the pile might be copyrightable anyway. This is quite silly, but it's the law.
23:13:17 <int-e> I think we have a real life example of this kind of mess... what's the copyright status of code produced by copilot?
23:14:00 <int-e> (There were some cases where it unambiguously reproduced GPL code sans license... but let's discount those.)
23:16:24 <zzo38> I try to avoid by I don't do copyright when I make my own stuff. (Actually I wanted to make up a license which effectively prevents other making restrictions too but is otherwise not restricted by copyright, even no attribution is required either, etc, and cannot be sued in many cases either, with some exception to allow relicensing by GNU GPL; but, I had not done so (I am not a lawyer), so I will just do public domain).
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05:19:30 <zzo38> Also sometimes if a book contains tables with some numeric data that could also easily be derived in another way, using simple calculations, even if the original text is copyright.
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13:18:53 * int-e wonders what fizzie thinks of https://nitter.eu/ariadneconill/status/1508696919786328068#m
13:19:20 <fizzie> Without looking, I guessed that was that tirade about the Go standard library.
13:19:46 <fizzie> Well, and/or Google SWE interviews.
13:20:01 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94330&oldid=94311 * Marco Devillers * (+16) clarity
13:20:06 <fizzie> I had read it earlier today.
13:21:14 <int-e> I'm torn on algorithms... it can't hurt to know them but so much software engineering is about understanding interfaces of opaque libraries these days...
13:22:02 <int-e> ...and in that context, knowing algorithms just feeds the NIH syndrome.
13:22:39 <int-e> ("this isn't quite ideal for what we want, and we *can* implement our own")
13:22:48 <fizzie> FWIW, I don't really understand what "that append is probably asymptotic O(n), so you probably want to prepend and then reverse" is trying to say.
13:23:11 <int-e> I didn't understand that either... it's not a linked list
13:23:30 <int-e> if it /were/ a linked list, then it would make sense
13:24:09 <fizzie> And the Python example -- list(set(x)) -- is probably much closer to the disparaged "use a map" answer, isn't a Python set basically a hashmap? Well, I guess I don't know that.
13:24:29 <int-e> fizzie: but I really meant the SWE interview part.
13:24:31 <fizzie> (Except obviously rather more concise than the version with a Go map.)
13:24:42 <fizzie> Well. I've been doing a bunch lately, as it happens.
13:25:12 <int-e> And... obviously this tweet is a shitpost :)
13:25:15 <fizzie> I haven't asked about sorting a list, and if I did, I would expect TC to say they'd use their language's sort function.
13:25:48 <fizzie> (TC is short for "the candidate", and is the canonical gender-neutral term in our interview feedback.)
13:27:07 <int-e> . o O ( Batcher's odd-even merging on a GPU )
13:27:50 <int-e> Obviously that's not the default answer :)
13:28:48 <fizzie> It's certainly true that we do ask quite a lot of "algorithm" questions. From the interview schedules I've seen, typically 3 out of the 5 interviews for general SWE candidates are one of those.
13:30:21 <fizzie> I think the official rationale for the policy is that there's research (both internal and external) saying it's... well, while it's a *bad* predictor for future success, it's not substantially worse than the others people have tried.
13:31:07 <int-e> I suppose it gauges interest in programming to some extent
13:32:05 <fizzie> I didn't spend any time preparing for my own interviews back when, FWIW. (I've also pretty much forgotten what I was asked.)
13:34:01 <fizzie> At least some subset of those "missing bits of the Go standard library" will probably land in the WIP generic https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/exp/slices package, now that generics are a thing.
13:35:06 <fizzie> In particular, Ariadne's dedup is `slices.Sort(in); slices.Compact(in);` with that package.
13:35:52 <int-e> Compact() then... that dedup assumes a sorted input
13:36:06 <fizzie> No, it's got a `sort.Strings(in)` in it.
13:36:48 <int-e> I don't know why I missed it... focussed on the loop I guess.
13:37:29 <fizzie> The standard library `sort` package has a handful of pre-baked functions for special slice types, namely sort.Float64s, sort.Ints and sort.Strings, as a sort of a bankrupt man's generics.
13:37:42 <fizzie> (Even less than a poor man's. That's sort.Slice, instead.)
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13:39:41 <fizzie> I wrote `SortBy` the other day to complement slices.Sort and slices.SortFunc, as a sort of a (trivial) exercise to start getting a little familiar with Go generics: https://go.dev/play/p/10B41WQMj_9
13:39:58 <fizzie> The type constraint system feels a little quirky to me.
13:41:07 <int-e> Go really doesn't believe in punctuation, does it...
13:41:26 <int-e> . o O ( U: constraints.Ordered )
13:42:08 <fizzie> Yeah, that's an interface defined in a library as the full set of all primitive types that you can apply < to. ;)
13:42:36 <int-e> I meant the lack of ":" in the actual syntax
13:43:14 <fizzie> Yeah. Well, atleast [] type parameters are consistent with () function parameters in the lack of punctuation.
13:43:52 <int-e> yeah and the absence of ; for separating statements and so on
13:44:17 <int-e> It's not /really/ a complaint. But I do find it a bit awkward :P
13:44:27 <fizzie> The semicolons are actually there in the formal syntax, they're just inserted by a rule rather than written explicitly in the source.
13:44:39 <fizzie> You could write them, but gofmt would keep taking them out as fast as you could type them in.
13:44:52 <int-e> Rust does have colons, and I do prefer that.
13:45:20 <fizzie> gofmt even forcibly line-separates `if x { a; b }` into `if x {` newline `a` newline `b` newline `}`. But it is what it is.
13:45:24 <int-e> Also statement separators; I feel less strongly about those because of Python and Haskell I guess.
13:45:53 <fizzie> (But it'd be valid Go to write the one with a single line and a semicolon too, just not canonically formatted Go.)
13:46:35 <fizzie> Given the de-facto standard nature of gofmt, it's probably a good question on whether it even matters separating statements "manually" by semicolons is valid. Like that tree-in-a-forest-sound thing.
13:46:57 <int-e> Looking at the actual code... how hard would it be to pull off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwartzian_transform ?
13:47:41 <int-e> I guess that's a matter of having a generic 'map' function or not...
13:48:06 <int-e> :t map snd . sort . map (?f &&& id)
13:48:07 <lambdabot> (Ord a1, Ord a2, ?f::a2 -> a1) => [a2] -> [a2]
13:48:51 <int-e> :t map snd . sortBy (comparing fst) . map (?f &&& id)
13:48:53 <lambdabot> (Ord a1, ?f::a2 -> a1) => [a2] -> [a2]
13:49:32 <fizzie> Yeah, I don't think there's a slices.Map actually. Go folks aren't functional programmers. :)
13:49:47 <int-e> sortBy being SortFunc. Your SortBy is sortOn
13:50:37 <fizzie> Hmm, not sure where I got the "by" from, for that. It's called "key" in Python.
13:50:43 <int-e> Rust, somehow, has quite a few functional patterns. It's... nice, really. I'm afraid the compiler isn't doing a great job optimizing them atm though... I should look at some assembly code to confirm.
13:52:11 <int-e> https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/iter/struct.Map.html <-- this gives a `map` on iterators
13:54:00 <fizzie> Aw... I thought https://go.dev/play/p/tSwLz-6lZ5l would be the Go-ish way of doing that, but "type declarations inside generic functions are not currently supported". :/
13:54:03 <int-e> I do think that the choice between `by` and `on` is quite arbitrary here.
13:55:08 <fizzie> That's a shame, because it works if you just manually substitute that in: https://go.dev/play/p/G5ZaZlm6-Wg -- but that looks *ridiculous*.
13:55:39 <fizzie> I think in practice if you'd want to do that with Go, since it's so "low-level" anyway, you'd just use a separate slice to store the mapped values.
13:56:22 <int-e> but how do you track the association then, hmm
13:56:44 <int-e> unless you're reimplementing the full sorting algorithm I guess
13:57:03 <b_jonas> oh come on, everyone knows that sort library functions are redundant, you can just write them form array indexing and indexed assignment => https://dpaste.com/DWPH4PLEX
13:57:21 <int-e> ah well... things are happening. maybe Go will be more usable a year from now as a result :P
13:57:58 <fizzie> int-e: You could implement sort.Interface, which tells the sort algorithm how to swap, and have it swap both slices in sync.
13:58:40 <fizzie> I'm not going to try that out with generics though, because I need to go grocery shopping.
13:59:49 <b_jonas> it helps here that VBA can assign a whole struct as a single value
14:00:37 <fizzie> But I think you could "easily" have a `type slicePair[T any, U constraints.Ordered] struct { vals []T; keys []U }` that implements sort.Interface.
14:00:48 <fizzie> Meaning no need for a copy of the original values.
14:01:38 <int-e> b_jonas: ugh... is that a stack-less bottom up merge sort?
14:01:48 <int-e> I think it is... looks nasty
14:02:29 <int-e> (and it explains why the scratch space is twice as big as the input)
14:02:30 <b_jonas> int-e: something like that, a two-way natural mergesort. the trick for implementing it is to just look it up in Knuth. and be careful if your comparison function is not known to be well-behaved.
14:03:24 <b_jonas> I think that's what you mean by stackless, there's no index of stacks or fixed (eg. power of two) sizes of runs
14:03:32 <int-e> it should be parsimonious... so there should be no trouble from bad comparison functions [sure, the result won't be sorted, but that's the price you pay]
14:03:49 <int-e> the runs are powers of two
14:03:53 <int-e> that's the rz variable
14:04:26 <b_jonas> I have no idea how this thing worked
14:04:31 <b_jonas> I wrote it like half a year ago
14:04:50 <b_jonas> yeah, it's a power of two thing, not a natural merge
14:06:34 <int-e> fizzie: ah, having swaps as part of the interface makes sense... but I didn't know go does that (and I'm not sure I've seen anyone else do it either)
14:08:45 <b_jonas> of course the problem with this is that you have to copy that code for each different type of struct that you define
14:09:15 <b_jonas> and for each array too, if you want to be able to sort more than one array, or at least write a helper that copies an array to/from the sort buffer
14:09:44 <b_jonas> mind you, VBA is an interpreted language were you can implement string-eval so you could automate that, but that's nasty
14:10:30 <b_jonas> and that only works if you make your array public and so assign a unique name
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14:11:23 <fizzie> int-e: It had to be done: https://go.dev/play/p/NclyObFyha1
14:11:37 <fizzie> But now I do need to go.
14:12:12 <fizzie> (In fact, that was surprisingly painless.)
14:13:25 <fizzie> FTR, the reason why the constraints are [S ~[]T, T any, U ...] rather than just [T any, U ...] and then making the method take a []T is that with the "approximate" matcher ~, you can also use the function on a new defined type with an underlying type of []T. Otherwise you could only sort a slice, not a `type customThing []foo`.
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14:35:05 <esolangs> [[Soul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94333&oldid=94332 * Marco Devillers * (+2) typo
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14:42:47 <sprout> right, need to spell everything out
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17:19:28 <fizzie> Heh, "need to go", I wasn't even aware that was a pun.
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17:20:32 <fowl> this all seems very esoteric to me
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09:31:45 <river> a new puzzle game... patricks parabox is out
09:32:01 <river> i am not sure what it is like.. maybe similar to recursed
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11:43:45 <int-e> I see what you mean by "similar to recursed", I think
11:46:19 <int-e> anyway. maybe something to look at next year :P
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11:50:59 <river> what are you doing this year?
12:09:42 <int-e> Maybe finish the Ice Palace set for Recursed, some new Baba levels, and A Monster's Expedition (still some undiscovered islands, but I haven't touched it in a long time...)? And that's just puzzle games.
12:10:20 <int-e> Oh and I justr bought Darq
12:11:02 <int-e> In a year I'll a) know whether the game is worth playing and b) pay less money for it :P
12:12:02 <river> i had about 5 levels left in recursed, but to redo them i think i would have to play the entire game from scratch
12:12:18 <river> i am working hard on baba new adventures atm
12:12:39 <river> which mostly means opening the same 5 levels im stmped on, staring at them and doing nothing
12:12:49 <int-e> I had solved all levels with secrets (100% achievements) and then somebody told me about the Ice Palace.
12:13:15 <river> yea I need to get there one day
12:13:49 <int-e> And The Ice Palace *is* significantly harder.
12:14:09 <int-e> Which is saying a lot because Recursed itself is pretty hard already.
12:14:45 <esolangs> [[Return()zero]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=94359&oldid=92128 * Dummiedummie * (+0)
12:17:09 <int-e> river: I did play Recursed from scratch once and I found it enjoyable... most of the levels are more interesting than tedious
12:17:32 <river> that's terrifying - recursed is one of the hardest games
12:17:52 <river> yes it's got very clever mechanics
12:18:08 <river> i assume it can be modelled with lambda calculus in some way
12:18:12 <river> but i never bothered to figure it out
12:18:44 <int-e> Have you seen https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.05131 ?
12:19:19 <int-e> (though that doesn't model the whole game... but obviously you can squeeze the rest of it into whatever TC formalism you like)
12:24:19 <river> hmm DARQ looks extremely cool
12:24:25 <river> oh yes i remember that paper now
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14:09:10 <int-e> river: I grabbed it because it's on sale on gog: https://www.gog.com/game/darq
14:10:02 <int-e> (apparently it went even lower on steam at some point, https://steamdb.info/app/433550/ has a recorded price at -82%)
14:12:32 <int-e> (that's why I generally don't buy games when they come out... almost all of them go on sale eventually, first at 20% off and later at 50% off or more)
14:13:07 <int-e> There have been some exception... Kerbal Space Program may be the most notable? Unless I misremember, it started out at around $10 or so and went up from there...
14:14:21 <int-e> So a rare game that was an experimental indie game that inexplicably became successful.
14:14:52 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1255.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
14:21:10 <b_jonas> river: I heard of that game, it was in the Mystery tournament at https://youtu.be/mwXR1JysvAM?t=11940
14:21:43 <b_jonas> and that was in 2020-12 (with the demo in that tournament and the full version not released yet) so
14:22:04 <int-e> it won awards in 2020, apparently
14:22:40 <int-e> and 2019. according to https://www.patricksparabox.com/
14:22:51 <river> oh it must have been the demo???
14:22:56 <river> i think it has just been released now
14:24:06 <int-e> https://indiecade.fandom.com/wiki/Patrick%27s_Parabox --I suppose it was less polished and had fewer levels
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15:11:51 <b_jonas> apparently in English a "chandelier" can mean either an ornate ceiling lamp or a professional who makes candles. fungot, do you suppose this has ever led to sitcom style comical misunderstandings?
15:11:52 <fungot> b_jonas: not hearing much about those days aswell, so you're going to define my own. complex, real, word, logos ( the divine word of god; the second person who said mu to me today except i could go off of for any of the current
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14:27:40 <river> > Now for the million-dollar question. Is GPT-3 Turing complete? Maybe.
14:27:42 <lambdabot> parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
14:27:52 <river> https://mayt.substack.com/p/gpt-3-can-run-code
14:33:57 <river> yeah makes no sense
14:34:13 <int-e> It should be complex enough to work as the finite automaton part of a Turing Machine.
14:35:13 <Corbin> But we know that such finite automata can be very simple, almost to the point of being canonical within some trivial context. Matrix multiplication can work. String concatenation can work. Two-stack automata and three-register automata can work.
14:35:26 <int-e> And who knows, it may be programmable in the way that Malbolge is.
14:35:57 <int-e> (Does it have recurrent parts? I suppose it does, but don't know.)
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15:05:52 <fizzie> I asked Google "do frogs have a religion?", but it just told me about human religions that frogs are related to. Completely misunderstood my question. :/
15:10:21 <int-e> so... we'll never know
15:10:44 <fizzie> I could file a bug, but I don't think it would help.
15:11:18 <river> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJHsrVyDDQ
15:12:18 <int-e> I could file a bug but what could I possibly need chitin powder for?
15:12:30 <fizzie> Context for the question was https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-60943132 -- I was wondering whether, if they put that thing in a zoo with some zoo-born other frogs, they'd treat it as (a) a really cool globetrotting frog, (b) a weirdo nutcase, or (c) a prophet of a new religion.
15:12:54 <fizzie> Assuming it starts telling the others of its travels, y'know.
15:14:57 <int-e> fizzie: this is more in "abducted by aliens" territory to my mind
15:15:09 <int-e> including the inevitable probes
15:16:18 <int-e> "The RSPCA said animals accidentally imported from abroad are rarely returned to their natural habitat and are usually rehomed with specialist zoos or wildlife parks." --I would assume most of them die on the way.
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16:11:46 <b_jonas> Manual of my new microwave oven. “Warning! When heating liquids, e.g. soup, sauces and beverages in your oven, overheating the liquid beyond boilig point can occur without evidence of bubbling. This could result in a sudden boil over of the hot liquid.” Wait, soup? You might be able to overheat water if you're careful but surely there's no way you can do that with soup.
16:14:40 <b_jonas> “When heating food in platic or paper containers, keep an eye on the overn as these types of containers ignite if overheated.” Plastic food boxes can melt if you aren't careful, but I haven't heard of them ignite before.
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17:36:52 <b_jonas> fungot, do frogs have a religion?
17:36:53 <fungot> b_jonas: what was wrong with the door to the east is ( 6) foolish ( devoid of good sense or judgment;...)' is ill-defined. this problem does not fnord
17:37:41 <b_jonas> fizzie: ah, I expected this was because of the giant frogs in "Kirby and the forgotten land"
17:45:35 <Corbin> "this problem does not fnord", nice.
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