2024-01 - libera.chat:#esolangs

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00:09:10 <b_jonas> happy new year for everyone in the UK/Ireland/Portugal timezone and the Iceland timezone as well

00:10:45 <ais523> happy new year b_jonas

00:13:27 <esolangs> [[EZ]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121337&oldid=65361 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) Category

00:16:08 <fizzie> BBC just rickrolled the whole nation. (As in, Rick Astley is doing the traditional New Year's concert thing, and he sang That Song right as the fireworks show ended.)

00:16:28 <FireFly> checks out

00:17:27 <int-e> we are no strangers to love, you know the rules, and so do I...

00:45:30 <ais523> there has to be a conceptual issue with whether or not an actual Rick Astley concert counts as a rickroll

00:45:39 <ais523> it probably has to be at least unexpected to some degree

00:46:44 <FireFly> it's not the first time he's done that I think

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03:05:27 <b_jonas> happy new year to everyone in the Brazil/Chile timezone, and everyone else who's already in the new year

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05:51:43 <esolangs> [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121338&oldid=21467 * BoundedBeans * (+1767)

06:07:23 <b_jonas> happy new years to everyone in the US east coast and central time zones, and everyone else who is already here in the future with me

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06:43:59 <int-e> `? password

06:44:04 <HackEso> The password of the month is adventageous reindeer nosebleed.

06:45:18 <int-e> . o O ( `learn The password of the month has pH value 14. -- it is very basic )

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06:55:57 <esolangs> [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121339&oldid=121338 * BoundedBeans * (+523) Clarified looping extension

06:56:46 <esolangs> [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121340&oldid=121339 * BoundedBeans * (+34) Fixed square bracket issues

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08:40:23 <b_jonas> happy new years everyone!

08:49:04 <esolangs> [[Haxell]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121341 * Hakerh400 * (+1676) +[[Haxell]]

08:49:35 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121342&oldid=121313 * Hakerh400 * (+13) +[[Haxell]]

08:49:58 <esolangs> [[User:Hakerh400]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121343&oldid=120277 * Hakerh400 * (-35) +[[Haxell]]

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13:42:31 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Lk050807 * uploaded "[[File:+=- logo.png]]": Official logo of <+=->

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14:21:00 <esolangs> [[Computer For Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121345&oldid=116354 * XNTEABDSC * (-7) /* Computer For Number Marked */

14:43:45 <esolangs> [[Computer For Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121346&oldid=121345 * XNTEABDSC * (+77) /* Computer For Number Marked */

14:44:39 <esolangs> [[Computer For Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121347&oldid=121346 * XNTEABDSC * (+16) /* Computer For Number Marked */

14:49:31 <esolangs> [[Computer For Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121348&oldid=121347 * XNTEABDSC * (+43) /* Computer For Number Marked */

14:50:29 <esolangs> [[Computer For Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121349&oldid=121348 * XNTEABDSC * (+12) /* Computer For Number Marked */

15:18:43 <b_jonas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGxIE1hr0w4 has the recent BBC rickroll that fizzie mentioned. it turns out that Rick Astley is also not immune to aging.

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18:07:49 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121350&oldid=121285 * Kiken * (+361)

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19:57:57 <esolangs> [[NeverGonna]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121351&oldid=120595 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+197) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the NeverGonna programming language on GitHub and supplemented the category tag Implemented.

20:04:13 <esolangs> [[NeverGonna]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121352&oldid=121351 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+6253) Supplemented an Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF) description of the language, and added several further example programs.

20:04:55 <esolangs> [[NeverGonna]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121353&oldid=121352 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+0) Rectified a mistake in the title of the 99 Bottles of Beer example program.

20:07:39 <esolangs> [[NeverGonna]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121354&oldid=121353 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+5512) Added a listing of the unary and binary operations.

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21:22:46 <esolangs> [[NeverGonna]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121355&oldid=121354 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+15) Rectified the 99 Bottles of Beer example program by supplementing missing of instances.

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23:26:41 <int-e> `learn The password of the month is Steamboat Willy Liberation

23:26:44 <HackEso> Relearned 'password': The password of the month is Steamboat Willy Liberation

23:28:36 <b_jonas> :(

23:29:16 <fizzie> By the way, pushed the final redraw of the AoC graphs; I stop collecting the numbers at the end of December.

23:30:04 <fizzie> (Still don't really understand why day 25 always has such a large percentage of one-star solutions. Is it really just people who don't care about it and therefore don't click on the link that gives you the second star?)

23:30:55 <int-e> I believe you need *all* previous stars before you're allowed to click that.

23:31:11 <fizzie> Oh! That would make a lot more sense.

23:31:31 <fizzie> I've always done them in order, but yeah, I guess the text always implies something about needing 49 stars.

23:33:35 <int-e> b_jonas: sorry? ...nah, not really.

23:33:57 <int-e> b_jonas: context is https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/dec/28/copyright-mickey-mouse-steamboat-willie

23:34:02 <b_jonas> yeah, I know

23:34:38 <int-e> which caught me a bit by surprise

23:34:40 <b_jonas> also most of my esolangs passwords suck so I can't really complain about any

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06:12:04 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * -matrizz * New user account

06:54:43 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121356&oldid=121336 * -matrizz * (+106) /* Introductions */

07:06:45 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121357&oldid=121333 * -matrizz * (+125)

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09:59:17 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121358&oldid=110673 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-15)

10:18:56 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121359&oldid=121350 * Kiken * (+55) /* Implementations */

10:19:22 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121360 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+849) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=VenetianScript |author=[[User:PoptartPlungerBoi|PoptartPlungerBoi]] |year=[[:Category:2024|2024]] |majorimpl= |files=<code>.midi</code> }} '''Venetian

10:19:57 <esolangs> [[]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121361 * Kiken * (+3410) Created page with "'''''' (Chinese for '''horizontal''') is a two-dimensional [[esoteric programming language]] made by [[User:kiken]]. It is based on so-called 'generic platformers' that are usually seen on [https://scratch.mit.edu Scratch]. ==Overview== The IP starts at the top-left of the grid

10:20:55 <esolangs> [[/Implementations]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121362 * Kiken * (+62) Redirected page to [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Implementations/]]

10:22:50 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121363&oldid=121361 * Kiken * (+126) Tags

10:23:57 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121364&oldid=121342 * Kiken * (+10) /* Non-alphabetic */

10:26:19 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121365&oldid=121357 * Kiken * (+24) /* the hapi bleu box */

10:30:17 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121366&oldid=121365 * Kiken * (+24) /* The ultimate content box */

10:30:39 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121367&oldid=121366 * Kiken * (+1) /* The ultimate content box */

10:31:02 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:Venetscrlogo.png]]": made in paint

10:32:24 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121369&oldid=121360 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+37)

10:32:51 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121370&oldid=121369 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-4)

10:32:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121371&oldid=121367 * Kiken * (+25) /* a */

10:41:59 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121372&oldid=121264 * Kiken * (+59)

10:42:26 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Grub]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121373 * Kiken * (+62) Created page with "{{lowercase}} This page is a draft for my esolang, '''grub'''."

10:43:22 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Kiken * moved [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Grub]] to [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/grub]]: Subpages was meant to be lowercased

10:43:38 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121376&oldid=121372 * Kiken * (+0)

10:46:10 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121377&oldid=121155 * Kiken * (+10) /* Esolangs I created */

10:47:00 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121378&oldid=121377 * Kiken * (+10) /* Esolangs I created */

10:55:19 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121379&oldid=121370 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+191) /* Commands */

10:58:25 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121380&oldid=121379 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+42)

10:59:48 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121381&oldid=121380 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+37) /* Commands */

11:27:48 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121382&oldid=121381 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-3) /* Commands */

11:47:00 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:VENETIANSCRIPTHELLO.png]]"

11:47:58 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121384&oldid=121382 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+67) /* Commands */

11:48:59 <esolangs> [[PricK]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121385&oldid=121331 * Olus2000 * (+143) /* BlooP translation */ Make it sound less informal

12:51:49 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/grub]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121386&oldid=121374 * Kiken * (+2044)

13:16:56 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Dalto * New user account

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13:35:00 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121387&oldid=121356 * Dalto * (+158)

13:38:57 <esolangs> [[Talk:Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121388&oldid=120653 * Dalto * (+288) /* How about a Haskell implementation? */ new section

13:39:30 <esolangs> [[Talk:Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121389&oldid=121388 * Dalto * (+49) Added signature

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15:21:31 <esolangs> [[Lakshayati]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121390&oldid=93514 * MaxDobbs32 * (+77)

15:25:09 <esolangs> [[Lakshayati]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121391&oldid=121390 * MaxDobbs32 * (+3)

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15:33:28 <esolangs> [[Lakshayati]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121392&oldid=121391 * MaxDobbs32 * (+2) My web interpreter was taken down so I had to change it

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20:19:45 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/grub]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121393&oldid=121386 * Kiken * (+3312)

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23:26:24 <esolangs> [[NumSym]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121394&oldid=94581 * Stiathirs the Protogen * (-55) edit links and turing-completeness

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00:30:52 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded a new version of "[[File:VENETIANSCRIPTHELLO.png]]"

00:37:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121396&oldid=121371 * NameGoesThere * (+75) /* 1 < 0 */

00:37:40 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121397&oldid=121396 * NameGoesThere * (+1) /* 1 < 0 */

00:57:05 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121398&oldid=120645 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+57) /* Verbose */

01:02:34 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121399&oldid=121384 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+527)

01:07:13 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121400&oldid=121399 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-5) /* Commands */

01:09:59 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121401&oldid=121358 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+21) /* Esolangs i've created (alphabetical order) */

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01:23:42 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121402&oldid=121400 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+20) /* Commands */

01:35:27 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:VENETIANTRUTH.png]]"

01:36:19 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121404&oldid=121223 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+53) /* Varigen */

01:36:53 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121405&oldid=121402 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+50) /* Hello, World! */

01:41:10 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121406&oldid=121405 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+52)

02:15:53 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121407&oldid=121364 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+21) /* V */

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04:40:10 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121408&oldid=121406 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+82)

04:47:28 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121409&oldid=120592 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+22)

04:51:43 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121410&oldid=121408 * None1 * (+19)

04:56:38 <esolangs> [[SAS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121411 * None1 * (+377) Created page with "SAS or Simple Assembly is an assembly language invented by [[User:None1]] to be simple to implement, it is possible to write a C compiler to it. ==Memory== There are infinite dialects of SAS: SAS-1, SAS-2, ... The number is the architecture number: the number of bits in a mach

04:59:57 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121412&oldid=121411 * None1 * (+66)

05:16:04 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121413&oldid=121412 * None1 * (+441) /* Memory */

05:19:17 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121414&oldid=121413 * None1 * (+138)

05:21:07 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121415&oldid=121414 * None1 * (+0) /* Computational class */

05:21:49 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121416&oldid=121407 * None1 * (+10) /* S */

05:24:13 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121417&oldid=121230 * None1 * (+41) /* My Esolangs */

05:25:13 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121418&oldid=121415 * None1 * (+77)

05:25:33 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121419&oldid=121418 * None1 * (+15) /* Computational class */

05:27:12 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121420&oldid=121419 * None1 * (+25)

05:28:30 <esolangs> [[Simple Assembly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121421 * None1 * (+17) Redirected page to [[SAS]]

05:32:05 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121422&oldid=121420 * None1 * (+33) /* Basic Commands */

06:09:15 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded a new version of "[[File:VENETIANTRUTH.png]]"

06:19:18 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121424&oldid=121410 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-58) /* Commands */

06:30:23 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121425&oldid=121424 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+43) /* Commands */

06:56:09 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121426&oldid=121425 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+63)

06:59:13 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121427&oldid=121426 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+2)

07:01:33 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121428&oldid=121427 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+15)

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07:47:35 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121429&oldid=121428 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+359)

07:47:54 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121430&oldid=121429 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+2) /* Etymology */

07:49:46 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121431&oldid=121430 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-41) /* History */

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08:19:38 <esolangs> [[MarioLANG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121432&oldid=97580 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+744) /* Examples */

08:20:53 <esolangs> [[MarioLANG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121433&oldid=121432 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-743) /* Hello world */

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09:07:36 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121434&oldid=121422 * None1 * (+62) /* Basic Commands */

09:07:48 <riv> https://github.com/kspalaiologos/malbolge-lisp

09:20:42 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121435&oldid=121434 * None1 * (+574) /* I/O Extensions (optional) */ Add Hello world

09:23:03 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121436&oldid=121398 * None1 * (+542) /* Sansism */

09:23:25 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121437&oldid=121435 * None1 * (+29) /* Example Programs */

09:23:35 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121438&oldid=121437 * None1 * (+1) /* Example Programs */

09:24:44 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121439&oldid=121438 * None1 * (+32) /* Memory */

09:25:01 <esolangs> [[Quinary Bueue]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121440 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+990) Created page with "'''Quinary Bueue''' is an esolang by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]]. ==Specifcation== 0 - enqueue 0 1 - enqueue 1 [ - dequeue, if zero jump after matching ] ] - jump back to matching [ ==Computational class== '''Quinary Bueue''' is Turing-complete because it

09:28:14 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121441&oldid=121439 * None1 * (+124) /* Memory */

09:29:20 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121442&oldid=121441 * None1 * (+44) /* Memory */

09:29:34 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121443&oldid=121442 * None1 * (+1) /* Memory */

09:30:40 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move_redir * Kiken * moved [[You can fuck without a brain]] to [[Brainfuck]] over redirect: adding strikes into the title, like the author probably wanted

09:30:40 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete_redir * Kiken * Kiken deleted redirect [[Brainfuck]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[You can fuck without a brain]]"

09:31:08 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121446&oldid=121444 * Kiken * (-34) removing wrongtitle

09:31:26 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121447&oldid=121446 * Kiken * (-1) remove \n

09:32:01 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121448&oldid=121447 * Kiken * (-158) /* Why is the article named "You can fuck without a brain" */ removing unnecessary section

09:40:39 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121449&oldid=121431 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-6) /* Commands */

09:40:58 <esolangs> [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121450&oldid=121363 * Kiken * (+18)

09:41:03 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:Venetiancat.png]]"

09:41:49 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121452&oldid=121449 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+50)

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09:42:34 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121453&oldid=121452 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+6) /* Cat */

09:42:44 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121454&oldid=121453 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+0) /* Cat */

09:43:02 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121455&oldid=121454 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+0) /* Cat */

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09:56:39 <esolangs> [[BF instruction minimalization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121456&oldid=119568 * Kiken * (+800)

09:59:23 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121457&oldid=121378 * Kiken * (+41) /* Implemented */

09:59:31 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121458&oldid=121457 * Kiken * (-21) /* Unimplemented */

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10:05:50 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121459&oldid=121455 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+22)

10:15:38 <esolangs> [[BFInfinity]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121460&oldid=119444 * None1 * (+474) /* Commands */

10:15:55 <esolangs> [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121461&oldid=121460 * None1 * (+1) /* Base Specs */

10:24:35 <esolangs> [[BFInfinity]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121462&oldid=121461 * None1 * (+500) /* Commands */

10:32:30 <esolangs> [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121463&oldid=121321 * None1 * (+116) /* Maze */

10:49:35 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121464&oldid=121459 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+148) /* History */

10:52:46 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121465&oldid=121464 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+27) /* Commands */

10:56:35 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121466&oldid=121465 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+153) /* Commands */

11:01:29 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121467&oldid=121466 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+53)

11:01:53 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121468&oldid=121467 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+1)

11:02:12 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121469&oldid=121468 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+0)

11:02:23 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121470&oldid=121469 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-1)

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11:43:12 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:Mickey Bucket Throw.PNG]]": Steamboat Willie's copyright expired in 1 January 2024 since it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before 1 January 1929 Made as a title esolang Evidence: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67833411 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/

11:52:15 <esolangs> [[Public Domain Mickey Reaction]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121472 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+191) Created page with "[[File:Mickey Bucket Throw.PNG|70px]] is an esolang created in 2024. The esolang was made to represent someone reacting to the 1928 animated short Steamboat Willie going to the public domain."

11:53:23 <esolangs> [[Public Domain Mickey Reaction]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121473&oldid=121472 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+60)

11:56:20 <esolangs> [[Public Domain Mickey Reaction]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121474&oldid=121473 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+126)

11:57:22 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move_redir * None1 * moved [[You can without a brainfuck]] to [[Brainfuck]] over redirect: Move to real name

11:57:22 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete_redir * None1 * None1 deleted redirect [[Brainfuck]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[You can without a brainfuck]]"

11:57:47 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121477&oldid=121401 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+75) /* Esolangs i've created (alphabetical order) */

11:59:30 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121478&oldid=121475 * None1 * (-48)

12:23:00 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121479&oldid=121478 * None1 * (+2) /* Implementations */

12:38:32 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121480&oldid=121443 * None1 * (+0) /* Memory */

12:46:21 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121481&oldid=121480 * None1 * (+30)

13:02:22 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121482&oldid=121481 * None1 * (+1023) /* Computational class */

13:03:04 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121483&oldid=121482 * None1 * (+25) /* Implementations */

13:04:15 <esolangs> [[Public Domain Mickey Reaction]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121484&oldid=121474 * None1 * (+41) languages+2024

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13:07:19 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121485&oldid=121483 * None1 * (+6) /* Memory */

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13:09:02 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121486&oldid=121485 * None1 * (+45) /* Example Programs */

13:09:20 <esolangs> [[SAS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121487&oldid=121486 * None1 * (+0) /* Cat program */

13:15:42 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121488&oldid=121487 * None1 * (+85) /* Example Programs */

13:22:32 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121489&oldid=121488 * None1 * (-8) /* Implementations */

13:23:29 <esolangs> [[SAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121490&oldid=121489 * None1 * (+0) /* Memory */

13:24:57 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121491&oldid=121404 * None1 * (+77) /* Sailing By */

14:21:20 <esolangs> [[Prolix 1.1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121492 * Morlus * (+14336) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Prolix |image=File:Prolix-logo.png|200px|center |paradigms=[[Wikipedia:Multi-paradigm|Multi paradigm]]: [[Object-oriented paradigm|object oriented]], [[Wikipedia:Procedural programming|procedural]] ([[Wikipedia:Imperative programming|imperati

14:21:48 <esolangs> [[Prolix 1.1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121493&oldid=121492 * Morlus * (+0)

14:23:03 <esolangs> [[Prolix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121494&oldid=120954 * Morlus * (-14107) Replaced content with "This page is in working progress! You can join my discord by [https://discord.gg/tMaBPAPKca click me]!"

14:24:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Morlus * uploaded "[[File:Prolix-2.0-logo.png]]"

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16:35:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:ITM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121496&oldid=109435 * Pro465 * (+47) /* This was made by a kid */ add date and sign

17:26:30 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121497&oldid=121470 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+56) Categories

17:28:55 <esolangs> [[Talk:ITM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121498&oldid=121496 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-1) Use unsigned template l

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17:33:07 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121499&oldid=121416 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+20) /* Q */ add

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19:24:18 <esolangs> [[ITMR]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121500 * Alanmalan * (+1007) Creation of something

19:24:45 <esolangs> [[ITMR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121501&oldid=121500 * Alanmalan * (+0)

19:25:56 <esolangs> [[User:Alanmalan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121502&oldid=109433 * Alanmalan * (+106)

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21:09:10 <esolangs> [[Category:User Edited]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121503 * PaxtonPenguin * (+47) Created page with "This category contains esolangs that users edit"

21:09:41 <esolangs> [[BFInfinity]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121504&oldid=121462 * PaxtonPenguin * (+25)

21:10:12 <esolangs> [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121505&oldid=119367 * PaxtonPenguin * (+25)

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22:52:22 <zzo38> How to request review of a C code for a (mainly) security review?

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23:27:37 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Metanetwork * New user account

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00:08:19 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121506&oldid=121497 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-23)

00:15:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Venetiancat.png]]"

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02:14:09 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121508&oldid=121491 * Justaweirdodev * (+68)

02:42:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121509&oldid=121387 * Metanetwork * (+128) /* Introductions */

02:48:08 <esolangs> [[Talk:Picofuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121510&oldid=91923 * Metanetwork * (+3416) /* PF attempt using a command counter */ new section

02:56:08 <esolangs> [[Talk:Picofuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121511&oldid=121510 * Metanetwork * (+19) /* PF attempt using a command counter */

03:05:58 <esolangs> [[Talk:Picofuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121512&oldid=121511 * Metanetwork * (+82) /* PF attempt using a command counter */

03:12:12 <esolangs> [[Talk:Picofuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121513&oldid=121512 * Metanetwork * (-2) /* PF attempt using a command counter */

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04:57:12 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121514&oldid=121506 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+20) /* Commands */

05:18:09 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121515&oldid=121477 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+217) /* Esolangs i've created (alphabetical order) */

05:33:10 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi/]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121516 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+4677) Created page with "

05:35:45 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121517&oldid=121515 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+62)

06:01:27 <esolangs> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121518&oldid=114046 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+47) /* Survey */

06:13:42 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121519&oldid=121517 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+0)

06:17:25 <esolangs> [[Binary-encoded Minsky machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121520&oldid=121080 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+45) /* Encoding */

06:18:28 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi/...................]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121521 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+1) Created page with "."

06:18:57 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121522&oldid=121519 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+47)

06:25:21 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi/...................]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121523&oldid=121521 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+6987)

06:51:35 <esolangs> [[Duck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121524&oldid=118821 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-2)

06:51:59 <esolangs> [[Duck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121525&oldid=121524 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+2) /* Specification */

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07:41:07 <esolangs> [[GotoStart Turing-completness proof]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121526&oldid=120686 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-1) /* Examples */

07:47:35 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck with while 0 loops]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121527&oldid=109805 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+56)

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08:26:06 <esolangs> [[Two variable language]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121528 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+1745) Created page with "'''Two variable language''' is an esolang by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] based on [[B2C]]. ==Specification== Language works on two variables, a and b, which store unsigned integers. Initially, a is set to 0 and b is set to 1 ===Commands== Pointer star

08:26:17 <esolangs> [[Two variable language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121529&oldid=121528 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+2) /* Commands */

09:23:26 <esolangs> [[Talk:Home Row]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121530&oldid=103845 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+146)

09:40:35 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121531&oldid=121514 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-19) /* Commands */

09:41:43 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121532&oldid=121531 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-2) /* Commands */

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11:14:38 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121534&oldid=121532 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+6) /* Commands */

11:21:05 <esolangs> [[SHITS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121535 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+826) Created page with "'''SHITS''' ('''S'''imple language wit'''H''' b'''ITS''') is an esolang by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] based on brainfuck minimalisations which uses binary tape. ==Speceification== Language uses right-infinite tape. ==Commands== ! - flip bit and move to the first cel

11:23:46 <esolangs> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121536&oldid=121518 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+71) /* Survey */

11:47:51 <esolangs> [[Quinary Bueue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121537&oldid=121440 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+19)

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12:25:01 <esolangs> [[Template talk:Py]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121538&oldid=121533 * None1 * (+79) /* ...this is already a thing though? */

12:25:21 <esolangs> [[Template talk:Py]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121539&oldid=121538 * None1 * (+78)

12:29:38 <esolangs> [[Category:Graphical Output]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121540&oldid=121072 * Minicoder * (+1) IO to I/O

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12:41:45 <esolangs> [[Category:Total]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121541&oldid=121070 * Minicoder * (+1) added missing space

14:04:48 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121542 * None1 * (+156) Created page with "{{WIP}} '''Excellang''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], that uses .xlsx, .xls or .csv charts as programs. [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:2023]]"

14:05:01 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121543&oldid=121542 * None1 * (+0)

14:05:27 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121544&oldid=121543 * None1 * (+0)

14:07:57 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121545&oldid=121544 * None1 * (+100)

14:14:45 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121546&oldid=121545 * None1 * (+449)

14:15:36 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121547&oldid=121546 * None1 * (+10) /* Commands */

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14:17:42 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121548&oldid=121547 * None1 * (+218) /* Commands */

14:18:01 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121549&oldid=121548 * None1 * (+31) /* Commands */

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14:20:07 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121550&oldid=121549 * None1 * (+96) /* Commands */

14:20:32 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121551&oldid=121550 * None1 * (+2) /* Commands */

14:21:43 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121552&oldid=121551 * None1 * (+204) /* Commands */

14:27:27 <esolangs> [[Alertbox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121553 * None1 * (+274) Created page with "Alertbox is a joke esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. There is only one command: a. It creates an alert box with "Hello, World!" in it. ==Examples== ===GUI Hello World=== a [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:Joke languages]] [[Category:2024]] [[Category:Graphical Output

14:29:34 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121554&oldid=121229 * None1 * (+35) /* General languages */

14:30:06 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121555&oldid=121417 * None1 * (+34) /* My Esolangs */

14:30:18 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121556&oldid=121555 * None1 * (+0) /* My Esolangs */

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14:33:49 <esolangs> [[Two variable language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121557&oldid=121529 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+48) /* Commands */

14:34:35 <esolangs> [[Two variable language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121558&oldid=121557 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+27)

15:03:15 <esolangs> [[SStack]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121559&oldid=118822 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+36) /* Commands */

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16:18:17 <esolangs> [[Prolix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121560&oldid=121494 * Morlus * (+24510)

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19:46:38 <esolangs> [[EsoChan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121561&oldid=101004 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+787) Introduced two further examples, one being an infinite cat program, the other a truth-machine, and added a hyperlink to my implementation on GitHub.

19:47:20 <esolangs> [[EsoChan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121562&oldid=121561 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1) Rectified an orthographic mistake in the truth-machine example.

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21:30:21 <esolangs> [[EsoChan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121563&oldid=121562 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+0) Modified the cat program such that it jumps to the prompt line during each cycle, thus circumventing the unnecessary repetition of the variable highlighting.

22:05:02 <esolangs> [[1CP=1ICL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121564&oldid=102748 * PaxtonPenguin * (+25)

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23:18:21 <esolangs> [[Alertbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121565&oldid=121553 * None1 * (+165) Implement

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23:46:37 <esolangs> [[Comun]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121566&oldid=121021 * Tastyfish * (+144) Expanded intro

00:22:15 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Seal * New user account

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04:38:01 <esolangs> [[VenetianScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121567&oldid=121534 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+13) /* Commands */

04:44:05 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121568 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+121) Created page with "'''DAEANAAACP''', short for '''Definitely An Esolang And Not An Arts And Crafts Project''' is an esolang created in 2024."

04:44:33 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121569&oldid=121522 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+17) /* Esolangs i've created (alphabetical order) */

04:55:58 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121570&oldid=121568 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+304)

04:56:18 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121571&oldid=121570 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+5)

04:58:47 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121572&oldid=121571 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+23)

05:05:41 <esolangs> [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121573&oldid=121146 * None1 * (+1) /* How to help about the project */ advice is uncountable isn't it

05:06:16 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121574&oldid=121572 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+52) /* Commands */

05:07:33 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121575&oldid=121574 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+23) /* Commands */

05:08:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:20240105 130757.jpg]]"

05:09:59 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121577&oldid=121575 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+48)

05:10:17 <esolangs> [[User talk:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121578&oldid=113246 * None1 * (+281) /* Hi */

05:10:28 <esolangs> [[User talk:PoptartPlungerBoi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121579&oldid=121578 * None1 * (+0) /* Hi */

05:10:57 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121580&oldid=121577 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+6)

05:14:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PoptartPlungerBoi * uploaded "[[File:Screenshot 20240105 131412 FlipaClip.jpg]]"

05:16:23 <esolangs> [[User talk:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121582&oldid=121579 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+262) /* Hi */

05:16:41 <esolangs> [[User talk:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121583&oldid=121582 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+2)

05:17:56 <esolangs> [[User talk:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121584&oldid=121583 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (-1)

05:20:46 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121585&oldid=121552 * None1 * (+100)

05:21:00 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121586&oldid=121585 * None1 * (+1)

05:25:37 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121587&oldid=121586 * None1 * (+695) /* Commands */

05:25:53 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121588&oldid=121587 * None1 * (-1) /* Commands */

05:26:50 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121589&oldid=121588 * None1 * (-8)

05:29:12 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121590&oldid=121589 * None1 * (+118)

05:33:24 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121591&oldid=121590 * None1 * (+135) /* Examples */

05:33:55 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121592&oldid=121499 * None1 * (+16) /* E */

05:34:37 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121593&oldid=121556 * None1 * (+49) /* My Esolangs */

05:35:50 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121594&oldid=121508 * None1 * (+131) /* ESOPUNK */

05:36:05 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121595&oldid=121594 * None1 * (+132) /* ESOPUNK */

05:36:21 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121596&oldid=121595 * None1 * (-132) /* Excellang */

05:38:52 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121597&oldid=121591 * None1 * (-4) /* Truth Machine */

05:39:54 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121598&oldid=121596 * None1 * (-4) /* Excellang */

05:43:32 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121599&oldid=121597 * None1 * (+22) /* Commands */

06:37:57 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121600&oldid=121580 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+41) Categories

06:39:17 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121601&oldid=121592 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+17) /* D */ add

06:57:35 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121602&oldid=121279 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+30) /* 2023 */

06:57:54 <esolangs> [[SHITS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121603&oldid=121535 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+0) /* Speceification */

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08:05:04 <esolangs> [[Talk:Dragostea din tei]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121604&oldid=116456 * Richard565 * (+111)

08:10:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Samorost * New user account

08:12:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121605&oldid=121509 * Samorost * (+213)

08:24:47 <esolangs> [[Zalgo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121606&oldid=102607 * Samorost * (+24) put zalgo's hello world in <pre> tags and gave it some line breaks before and after, so the diacritics can actually be seen.

08:30:30 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zalgo]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121607 * Samorost * (+451) Created page with "== Weirdness with the code tags? == Is there something weird going on here? When you look at the rendered page (heading "Cat" for example) the code is definitely in a <code>code-box</code>, but when you go to the edit page, there is no <nowiki><code></nowiki> or <now

08:35:51 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zalgo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121608&oldid=121607 * Samorost * (+751) /* Wider code boxes to make room for the diacritics */ new section

08:38:14 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zalgo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121609&oldid=121608 * Samorost * (+93)

09:27:16 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121610&oldid=121599 * None1 * (+1) /* Commands */

09:28:47 <esolangs> [[Excellang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121611&oldid=121610 * None1 * (+14) Added pronounciation

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09:53:16 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121612&oldid=121593 * None1 * (-1) /* My Esolangs */

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11:27:22 <esolangs> [[AutProL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121613&oldid=110680 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+62)

11:27:28 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Velocitatem * New user account

11:28:23 <esolangs> [[Cool And Rad]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121614 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+659) Created page with "'''Cool And Rad''' is an esolang created by [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi|PoptartPlungerBoi]] in 2024. == History == The esolang was originally named '''A Totally Sick And Twistingl

11:29:10 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121615&oldid=121569 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+19) /* Esolangs i've created (alphabetical order) */

11:32:19 <esolangs> [[User:PoptartPlungerBoi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121616&oldid=121615 * PoptartPlungerBoi * (+39)

11:48:51 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121617&oldid=121605 * Velocitatem * (+224) /* Introductions */

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14:53:42 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121618&oldid=119321 * PaxtonPenguin * (+74)

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16:35:08 <esolangs> [[The Apeironillion Numbering System: An Extension of the Conway-Wechsler System with Truncation of Contiguous Substrings]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121619 * PixelatedStarfish * (+255) Created page with "*So... This is not an esolang. Due to policies I, frankly do not understand yet, I will just post this project here for now. I think I have to wait f

16:37:36 <esolangs> [[The Apeironillion Numbering System: An Extension of the Conway-Wechsler System with Truncation of Contiguous Substrings]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121620&oldid=121619 * PixelatedStarfish * (+17063)

16:38:14 <esolangs> [[The Apeironillion Numbering System: An Extension of the Conway-Wechsler System with Truncation of Contiguous Substrings]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121621&oldid=121620 * PixelatedStarfish * (-17061) Replaced content with "''So... This is not an esolang. Due to policies I, frankly do not understand yet, I will just post this project here for now. I thin

16:38:58 <esolangs> [[The Apeironillion Numbering System: An Extension of the Conway-Wechsler System with Truncation of Contiguous Substrings]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121622&oldid=121621 * PixelatedStarfish * (+28)

16:39:44 <esolangs> [[The Apeironillion Numbering System: An Extension of the Conway-Wechsler System with Truncation of Contiguous Substrings]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121623&oldid=121622 * PixelatedStarfish * (+16)

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18:13:19 <esolangs> [[User:Joaozin003]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121624&oldid=117686 * Joaozin003 * (+29)

18:13:57 <esolangs> [[User:Joaozin003]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121625&oldid=121624 * Joaozin003 * (+2)

18:14:25 <esolangs> [[User:Joaozin003]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121626&oldid=121625 * Joaozin003 * (-2)

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18:51:30 <esolangs> [[SUBBIG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121627&oldid=119966 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+57) /* Description */

18:53:11 <esolangs> [[SUBBIG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121628&oldid=121627 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+0)

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18:53:58 <esolangs> [[INJUQ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121629&oldid=119971 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+68)

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18:54:16 <esolangs> [[INJUQ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121630&oldid=121629 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+1) /* Print "HI" */

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20:15:47 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121631&oldid=121554 * Tastyfish * (-1) it's -> its

20:32:48 <esolangs> [[Improbable]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121632&oldid=39507 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+61) Categories, deadlink

20:41:39 <esolangs> [[Cool And Rad]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121633&oldid=121614 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+32) Stub, category

20:42:45 <esolangs> [[DAEANAAACP]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121634&oldid=121600 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+9) Stub

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22:00:23 <esolangs> [[Fnaf sort]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121635&oldid=112603 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+64) Stub, link, category

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22:58:44 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Arutonee * New user account

23:01:45 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121636&oldid=121617 * Arutonee * (+223)

23:29:50 <esolangs> [[RegRep]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121637 * Arutonee * (+4135) Initial commit

23:38:55 <zzo38> Do you like Hero Hearts levels that I had made up? http://zzo38computer.org/freeheromesh/hyperhero.fhm.gz

00:43:07 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121638&oldid=121601 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+13) /* R */ add

00:44:16 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121639&oldid=121638 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+19) /* C */ add

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02:12:50 <esolangs> [[Prolix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121640&oldid=121560 * Morlus * (+0)

06:24:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Aburka * New user account

06:28:09 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121641&oldid=121636 * Aburka * (+164)

06:37:14 <esolangs> [[Braintuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121642&oldid=92308 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+71) Categories

06:54:04 <zzo38> Do you know, I invented a different protocol and file format that can be a possible alternative than others such as Gopher, Gemini, HTML

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08:22:44 <esolangs> [[Pico]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121643 * Salpynx * (+9732) Considering this spec finished since I haven't changed it in the last 3 years.

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23:00:13 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121645&oldid=121644 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+28) /* T */ Alphabetise, add

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03:52:09 <esolangs> [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121646&oldid=121340 * BoundedBeans * (+8) Added "labels" to list of things statements in loops cannot have

05:22:31 <esolangs> [[The Rink of Insanity]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121647 * BoundedBeans * (+9046) Created page with "The Rink of Insanity is a skating-themed 2d esolang designed by [[User:BoundedBeans]]. Rather than describing the control flow directly, it outlines a path for skaters to follow to perform the instruction. ==Skaters== Skaters behave somewhat like inst

05:23:24 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121648&oldid=121645 * BoundedBeans * (+27)

05:23:42 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121649&oldid=120411 * BoundedBeans * (+26)

06:05:40 <esolangs> [[The Rink of Insanity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121650&oldid=121647 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+22) /* Logic gates */ Category

06:09:08 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121651&oldid=121648 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* T */ Alphabetise

06:16:53 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121652&oldid=121376 * Kiken * (+61)

06:17:08 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Train]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121653 * Kiken * (+49) Created page with "This page is a draft for my esolang, '''Train'''."

06:24:33 <esolangs> [[Betul Betul BetulLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121654&oldid=93979 * BoundedBeans * (+2138) Added Turing-completeness proof

07:43:45 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Train]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121655&oldid=121653 * Kiken * (+3301)

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08:14:21 <esolangs> [[The Rink of Insanity]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121656&oldid=121650 * BoundedBeans * (-308) Corrected computational class

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08:57:40 <esolangs> [[Prolix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121657&oldid=121640 * Morlus * (+863)

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09:15:31 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Morlus * uploaded "[[File:Prolix2.png]]"

09:16:00 <esolangs> [[Prolix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121659&oldid=121657 * Morlus * (-8)

10:18:10 <esolangs> [[SStack]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121660&oldid=121559 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+3) /* Computational class */

10:19:25 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08/Interpreters]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121661&oldid=121047 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+4) /* brainfuck in SStack */

11:14:24 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Train]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121662&oldid=121655 * Kiken * (-31) /* Computational class */

11:17:00 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121663&oldid=121652 * Kiken * (+65)

11:17:20 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Current]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121664 * Kiken * (+51) Created page with "This page is a draft for my esolang, '''Current'''."

11:18:45 <esolangs> [[Train]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121665 * Kiken * (+3390) Created page with "{{Distinguish/Confusion|TRAIN!}} '''Train''' is a two-dimensional [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:kiken]]. ==Overview== Train consists of a single train (the instruction pointer) that is moving across a track. It is constantly moving forwards, and once

11:20:17 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121666&oldid=121651 * Kiken * (+12) /* T */

11:20:46 <esolangs> [[Train]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121667&oldid=121665 * Kiken * (+27) Categories

11:20:58 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121668&oldid=121458 * Kiken * (+11) /* Esolangs I created */

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11:44:58 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121669&oldid=106589 * KapitanGamer * (+90)

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12:28:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Nazalassa * New user account

12:37:50 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121670&oldid=121641 * Nazalassa * (+380) Mandatory introduction

12:43:32 <esolangs> [[User:Nazalassa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121671 * Nazalassa * (+12) Created page with "Hello world!"

12:43:54 <esolangs> [[User talk:Nazalassa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121672 * Nazalassa * (+0) Created blank page

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13:28:06 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121673&oldid=121669 * KapitanGamer * (+15)

13:36:46 <esolangs> [[ANItka]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121674&oldid=113299 * KapitanGamer * (+5)

13:38:46 <esolangs> [[ANItka]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121675&oldid=121674 * KapitanGamer * (-5)

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13:59:46 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Current]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121676&oldid=121664 * Kiken * (+1335)

14:44:43 <impomatic> Hi, does anyone know an app to read / post to text newsgroups from Android? Everything seems aimed at downloading binaries.

14:44:55 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121677 * KapitanGamer * (+146) Created page with "'''Tyr''' is an [[Esoteric programming language|esoteric programming language]] and [http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conlang constucted language]"

14:45:47 <impomatic> Google Groups are discontinuing Usenet access next month.

14:47:55 <impomatic> Also any free NNTP servers for text groups. I'm using Eternal September and I've found the dotsrc one (which only has limited groups). Wondering if there are any others.

14:53:57 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121678&oldid=121677 * KapitanGamer * (-4)

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15:14:07 <esolangs> [[ASCIIfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121679&oldid=121305 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+196) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the ASCIIfuck programming language on GitHub and supplemented the Implemented category tag.

15:15:28 <esolangs> [[ASCIIfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121680&oldid=121679 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+24) Rectified the Hello world example, the same lacked a few instructions.

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15:25:49 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121682&oldid=121681 * KapitanGamer * (+28)

15:32:33 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121683&oldid=121682 * KapitanGamer * (+96)

17:14:09 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121684&oldid=121683 * KapitanGamer * (+847)

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17:31:40 <esolangs> [[User:KapitanGamer/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121685&oldid=121684 * KapitanGamer * (+1041)

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17:50:11 <esolangs> [[/path]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121686 * Nazalassa * (+8808) Created /path

17:51:15 <esolangs> [[Train]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121687&oldid=121667 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+22) /* Examples */ Category

17:52:13 <esolangs> [[TRAIN!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121688&oldid=87546 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+55) Distinguish confusion, add category

17:52:29 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121689&oldid=121666 * Nazalassa * (+12) Added /path to the list, between /// and :]

17:53:30 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121690&oldid=121686 * Nazalassa * (+91) Clarification

17:53:52 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121691&oldid=121690 * Nazalassa * (+2) Fixed orth

17:55:56 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121692 * Nazalassa * (+8295) Created page with "<pre> #!/bin/python3 import os.path as op, sys errstr = '''/path error in block {bidx}: /{block}/ {pad}^ {msg}''' subs = { '\\':'/', 'P':'^', 'M':'\'', 'o':'`', 'D':'=', 'u':':', 'L':'#', 'O':'<', 'I':'>', 'a':'+', 'r':'-', 't':'*', 'm':'%',

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21:07:58 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121693&oldid=121691 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-3) /* Limits */ Category

21:09:09 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121694&oldid=121692 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+46) Back, category

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22:00:07 <esolangs> [[Thue Symbol Sorting Theorem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121695&oldid=72779 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-36) Deadlink

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00:40:55 <esolangs> [[Print]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121696&oldid=66161 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) Category

00:43:32 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121697&oldid=121689 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+12) /* P */ add

00:44:05 <esolangs> [[Print]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121698&oldid=121696 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+32) Distinguish confusion

00:45:21 <esolangs> [[PRINT]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121699&oldid=115584 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+32) Distinguish confusion

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07:31:01 <esolangs> [[/path]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121700&oldid=121693 * Nazalassa * (+32) New instruction: k

07:32:30 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121701&oldid=121700 * Nazalassa * (+50) k instruction update

07:34:14 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121702&oldid=121701 * Nazalassa * (+52) k instruction update

07:51:42 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121703&oldid=121694 * Nazalassa * (+1782) Updated interpreter

07:59:50 <zzo38> If I want a server (without needing to run as root) to be able to execute programs that users have put in public directories meant to be executed by this server, and want to make it work securely (e.g. they cannot read/write other files belonging to the server or other users unless they have permission to do so), how to do, while avoiding race conditions?

08:15:52 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121704&oldid=121703 * Nazalassa * (+0) Fixed implementation error in substraction operation

08:33:24 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121705&oldid=121704 * Nazalassa * (+4) Fix implementation error in swap operation

08:36:37 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121706&oldid=121702 * Nazalassa * (+137) More examples

08:37:33 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121707&oldid=121706 * Nazalassa * (+51) More precise behaviour on k operator

08:41:41 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121708&oldid=121705 * Nazalassa * (+72) Fixed implementation error in S operator

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10:31:41 <esolangs> [[Print]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121709&oldid=121698 * None1 * (-1) /* Truth-machine */

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11:24:52 <wib_jonas> zzo38: https://esolangs.org/wiki/HackEso#Implementation_details

11:40:12 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Current]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121710&oldid=121676 * Kiken * (+1786) /* Overview and syntax */

11:57:00 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121711 * None1 * (+704) Created page with "{{Lang|a=User:None1}} It is a superset of [[Output]]. ==Extra command== Fuck ''value'' Interpret ''value'' as [[brainfuck]]. The format of the value is the same as the format of the value in output. ==Examples== ===[[Cat program]]=== Fuck ",[.,]" ===[[Brainfuck]] interpr

11:57:34 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121712&oldid=121711 * None1 * (+0) /* Computational class */

11:58:36 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121713&oldid=121697 * None1 * (+14) /* O */

11:59:11 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121714&oldid=121712 * None1 * (+27) /* Computational class */

11:59:49 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121715&oldid=121612 * None1 * (+58) /* My Esolangs */

12:01:38 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121716&oldid=117994 * None1 * (+56) /* Interpreters in Other esolangs */

12:04:08 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121717&oldid=121714 * None1 * (+249) /* Alternative */

12:04:27 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121718&oldid=121717 * None1 * (-4) /* Alternative */

12:05:55 <esolangs> [[Fish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121719&oldid=117364 * Cleverxia * (+33) /* Code execution */

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13:41:10 <esolangs> [[Opf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121720 * None1 * (+336) Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1}} It is a superset of [[Op]]. It is similar to [[OutputF]]. ==Commands== It adds the {{cd|f}} command, its usage is: f"''string''" Interprets ''string'' as [[brainfuck]]. ==Examples== ===Cat program=== f",[.,]" ===Brainfuck interpreter=== ifi [[Category

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13:42:34 <esolangs> [[Opf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121721&oldid=121720 * None1 * (+352) /* Brainfuck interpreter */

13:43:23 <esolangs> [[Opf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121722&oldid=121721 * None1 * (+110) /* Examples */

13:43:58 <esolangs> [[Output]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121723&oldid=120893 * None1 * (+37) /* See also */

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13:44:42 <esolangs> [[Op]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121724&oldid=120894 * None1 * (+54) /* Example programs */

13:44:54 <esolangs> [[Op]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121725&oldid=121724 * None1 * (+1) /* See also */

13:45:42 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121726&oldid=121718 * None1 * (+66) /* Computational class */

13:45:56 <esolangs> [[OutputF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121727&oldid=121726 * None1 * (+1) /* See also */

13:46:23 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121728&oldid=121713 * None1 * (+10) /* O */

13:46:59 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121729&oldid=121715 * None1 * (+45) /* My Esolangs */

13:47:32 <esolangs> [[Opf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121730&oldid=121722 * None1 * (+15)

13:48:57 <esolangs> [[Opf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121731&oldid=121730 * None1 * (+267) /* Commands */

13:49:14 <esolangs> [[Op]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121732&oldid=121725 * None1 * (+1) /* Commands */

13:56:45 <esolangs> [[Slash-path]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121733 * None1 * (+19) Redirected page to [[/path]]

13:59:08 <esolangs> [[BooleanFunge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121734&oldid=106515 * None1 * (-3) /* Stack part */

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16:08:06 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121735&oldid=121728 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* O */ Alphabetise

16:13:30 <esolangs> [[Ctonia]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121736&oldid=40941 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) Category

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17:15:47 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121737&oldid=121708 * Nazalassa * (+85) Fixed more errors

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17:28:22 <esolangs> [[/path]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121738&oldid=121707 * Nazalassa * (+145) More examples

17:32:32 <wib_jonas> `olist 1295

17:32:34 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1295.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas

17:37:33 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121739&oldid=121738 * Nazalassa * (+66) Added r instruction

17:39:00 <esolangs> [[/path/refimpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121740&oldid=121737 * Nazalassa * (+112) Implemented r instruction

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21:52:32 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121741&oldid=119608 * Aadenboy * (-13)

21:53:22 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121742&oldid=121741 * Aadenboy * (+72)

21:53:30 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121743&oldid=121742 * Aadenboy * (+1)

21:53:51 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121744&oldid=121743 * Aadenboy * (+0)

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22:09:42 <zzo38> Only one popup text can be displayed per turn; if multiples would be displayed, only the first one is displayed and the rest aren't. (You will have to learn to take advantage of this in order to win the game.)

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23:22:09 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121745&oldid=121436 * None1 * (+58) /* OOLANG */

23:22:58 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121746&oldid=121745 * None1 * (+33) /* Output */

23:23:13 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121747&oldid=121746 * None1 * (+0) /* Output */

23:31:03 <esolangs> [[User:Laclale]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121748&oldid=104689 * Laclale * (+47) /* I made */

23:35:34 <esolangs> [[User:Laclale/AsciiSquish]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121749 * Laclale * (+1701) Created page with "<pre> local tabledef=["+","-",">","<",",",".","[","]"] --[[ ASCIIfuck is a variation of brainfuck by User:ChuckEsoteric08 which uses ASCII values of a characters. Take ASCII value of character If it has three digits, add first two First digit of an ope

23:36:33 <esolangs> [[User:Laclale]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121750&oldid=121748 * Laclale * (+1) /* I made */

23:39:26 <esolangs> [[ASCIIfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121751&oldid=121680 * Laclale * (+102) /* Interpreter */

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03:26:03 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Cute Catgirl * New user account

03:29:07 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121752&oldid=121670 * Cute Catgirl * (+173) /* Introductions */

03:34:12 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121753&oldid=121079 * Cute Catgirl * (+132) Add idea for OS

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08:49:38 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121754&oldid=121739 * Nazalassa * (+421) More examples

09:07:15 <esolangs> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121755&oldid=68885 * None1 * (+27) /* Non-terminating Cat */

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09:33:41 <esolangs> [[Eyefuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121756&oldid=108011 * None1 * (+58)

09:36:05 <esolangs> [[Eyefuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121757&oldid=121756 * None1 * (+30) /* Example programs */

09:39:54 <esolangs> [[Talk:Timeline of esoteric programming languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121758&oldid=120573 * None1 * (+63) /* WTF? is that?! */

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11:53:52 <esolangs> [[Nanofunge]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121759 * Cleverxia * (+2552) Created page with "Nanofunge, like [[Nopfunge]], is a [[fungeoid]]. It's a 2D [[esoteric programming language]] base on 3 commands which is a "subset" of [[Befunge]]. The goal of it is to discover the minimum number of commands to make a direction-only language [[Turing-complete]]. ==

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13:28:02 <esolangs> [[Talk:Timeline of esoteric programming languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121760&oldid=121758 * NameGoesThere * (+156) /* WTF? is that?! */

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14:25:05 <esolangs> [[Interpret Esolangs Online]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121761&oldid=117926 * None1 * (+13) /* External Resources */

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16:32:45 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Alligin * New user account

16:37:59 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121762&oldid=121752 * Alligin * (+70) /* Introductions */

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17:05:59 <andyatalligin> Anything happen on here?

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17:33:39 <cpressey> Higher Order Attribute Grammars: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/74818.74830

17:34:05 * cpressey just leaves that there

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17:41:42 <esolangs> [[ITMR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121763&oldid=121501 * Alanmalan * (+168)

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18:05:23 <op_4> andyatalligin: depends on your definition of anything :)

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21:29:41 <esolangs> [[Reset]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121764 * Infinitehexagon * (+892) Created page with "'''Reset''' is an esolang that is based entirely off of a dream [[User:Infinitehexagon]] had about a viral programming language on the internet. This esolang is heavily inspired off of [[]]. ==Instructions== ===Lowercase=== {| class="wikitable" ! Instruction !! De

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00:54:38 <esolangs> [[AssemblerFuck++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121765&oldid=103262 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+211) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the AssemblerFuck++ programming language on GitHub and supplemented the category tag Implemented.

00:56:08 <esolangs> [[AssemblerFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121766&oldid=108748 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+109) Rectified the Hello World program, which erroneously employed a dextral translation of the cell pointer in lieu of a sinistral one.

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05:38:19 <esolangs> [[The Goblins Operation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121767&oldid=86942 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+34) Category

05:42:19 <esolangs> [[Reset]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121768&oldid=121764 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+63) Space, categories

05:54:56 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121769&oldid=121735 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+12) /* R */ Fix capitalisation, add

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07:11:48 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121770&oldid=119461 * Fazaazafg * (+5) /* Notes */

07:12:30 <esolangs> [[Rs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121771&oldid=47003 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+43) Deadlink, category

07:14:44 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121772&oldid=121770 * Fazaazafg * (-11) /* Examples */

07:18:27 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121773&oldid=121772 * Fazaazafg * (+57) /* Built-ins */

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09:02:10 <esolangs> [[TPLTSSPP]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121774&oldid=106381 * None1 * (-9) /* Interpreter */

09:16:04 <esolangs> [[Opf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121775&oldid=121731 * None1 * (+36) /* Computational class */

09:29:51 <esolangs> [[Nice]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121776&oldid=110578 * None1 * (+3) /* Keywords */ Output would be a better name for the command

09:52:23 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121777&oldid=119235 * None1 * (+108)

10:02:41 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121778&oldid=121777 * None1 * (+411)

10:03:41 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121779&oldid=121778 * None1 * (+50) /* Syntax */

10:04:19 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121780&oldid=121779 * None1 * (+33) /* Syntax */

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10:10:03 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121782&oldid=121781 * None1 * (+312) /* Syntax */

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10:12:14 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121783&oldid=121782 * None1 * (+164) /* Syntax */

10:15:30 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121784&oldid=121783 * None1 * (+273) /* Syntax */

10:15:48 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121785&oldid=121784 * None1 * (-2) /* Threads */

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10:19:10 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121787&oldid=121786 * None1 * (+96) /* Commands */

10:36:40 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121788&oldid=121787 * None1 * (+0) /* Commands */

10:40:53 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121789&oldid=121788 * None1 * (+309) /* Threads */

10:41:04 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121790&oldid=121789 * None1 * (-2) /* Directions */

10:44:45 <esolangs> [[Pyline]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121791&oldid=119679 * YufangTSTSU * (+1020)

11:15:40 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121792&oldid=121790 * None1 * (+898) /* Calculators */

11:15:52 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121793&oldid=121792 * None1 * (+0) /* Cells */

11:17:34 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121794&oldid=121793 * None1 * (+108) /* Cells */

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12:11:15 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121795&oldid=121794 * None1 * (+534) /* Commands */

12:11:56 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121796&oldid=121795 * None1 * (+26) /* Table syntax */

12:16:31 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121797&oldid=121796 * None1 * (+229) /* Threads */

12:17:28 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121798&oldid=121797 * None1 * (-9) /* Threads */

12:19:55 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121799&oldid=121798 * None1 * (+144) /* Threads */

12:20:45 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121800&oldid=121799 * None1 * (+5) /* Threads */

12:23:22 <esolangs> [[Nopfunge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121801&oldid=107721 * None1 * (+36)

12:30:31 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121802&oldid=121800 * None1 * (+236) /* Unary calculators */

12:34:05 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121803&oldid=121802 * None1 * (+257) /* Binary calculators */

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13:27:39 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121804&oldid=121803 * None1 * (+1158) /* Binary calculators */

13:30:49 <esolangs> [[/path]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121805&oldid=121754 * Nazalassa * (+49) Fixed Disan count

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16:40:47 <esolangs> [[Wierd]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121806&oldid=108207 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) Category

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19:23:10 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121808 * LEOMOK * (+5317) Created page with "This page is about the '''EA Script, It's in the code.''' programming language, where you have to pay for absolutely everything. ==Instructions== It operates on an unbounded tape of 8-bit cells, but you have to pay $9.99 for every cell after the fi

19:23:56 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121809&oldid=121808 * LEOMOK * (+27) Added a bit of clarity.

19:24:15 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121810&oldid=121809 * LEOMOK * (+15) fixed link

19:24:47 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121811&oldid=121810 * LEOMOK * (-19) removed link because of a bug

19:27:22 <esolangs> [[Category:Usability not set]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121812 * LEOMOK * (+238) Created page with "This category is for a programming language whose usability statuses are known, but is implementation-dependent or requires the user to pay money, thus there is no definite answer to "Is this programming language usable for programming?"."

19:27:32 <esolangs> [[Category:Usability not set]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121813&oldid=121812 * LEOMOK * (+1)

19:28:29 <esolangs> [[Category:No set computational class]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121814 * LEOMOK * (+257) Created page with "This category is for a programming language whose computational class statuses are known, but are implementation-dependent or require the user to pay money, thus there is no definite answer to "What is the computational class of this programmin

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19:34:43 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121819&oldid=121811 * LEOMOK * (-1)

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19:42:19 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121828&oldid=121827 * LEOMOK * (-11)

19:44:21 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121829&oldid=121828 * LEOMOK * (+15)

19:45:24 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121830&oldid=121829 * LEOMOK * (+0) removed clash because lol

19:45:33 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121831&oldid=121830 * LEOMOK * (+0)

19:48:49 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121832&oldid=121831 * LEOMOK * (+1)

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22:22:04 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121833&oldid=121832 * LEOMOK * (-3) Fixed mistake

23:18:54 <esolangs> [[Talk:\]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121834&oldid=121127 * None1 * (+284)

23:19:48 <esolangs> [[Talk:\]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121835&oldid=121834 * None1 * (+0)

23:27:35 <esolangs> [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121836&oldid=121573 * None1 * (-4964) /* External Resources */ Fixed bug with numbers from 10 to 20, didn't commit this in GitHub yet.

23:28:40 <esolangs> [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121837&oldid=121836 * None1 * (+4964) /* External Resources */

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00:38:36 <esolangs> [[ITMR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121839&oldid=121838 * Alanmalan * (+46)

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09:23:55 <esolangs> [[PaidFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121841&oldid=121840 * None1 * (-4) /* Cat program */

09:24:38 <esolangs> [[PaidFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121842&oldid=121841 * None1 * (-3) /* Cost */

09:26:12 <esolangs> [[PaidFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121843&oldid=121842 * None1 * (+40) /* Cat program */

09:27:43 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121844&oldid=121769 * None1 * (+78) /* P */

09:27:59 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121845&oldid=121844 * None1 * (-1) /* P */

09:28:27 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121846&oldid=121729 * None1 * (+81) /* My Esolangs */

09:29:19 <esolangs> [[PaidFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121847&oldid=121843 * None1 * (+7) /* Cost */ be exact to microseconds

09:32:58 <esolangs> [[\]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121848&oldid=120933 * None1 * (-1) /* Commands */

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09:43:04 <cpressey> Having a higher-order attribute grammar means that you can pass terminals and nonterminals up and down as attributes. Further it ought to mean that you can apply those terminals and nonterminals during parsing. And ultimately this ought to allow you to write grammars in continuation-passing style. Now, I cannot really imagine what the benefits of

09:43:04 <cpressey> writing a grammar in CPS would be, but I don't consider that a serious impediment to wanting to do it.

09:47:59 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121849&oldid=121804 * None1 * (-217) /* Threads */

09:48:55 <esolangs> [[User:None1/InDev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121850&oldid=121849 * None1 * (+1) /* Threads */

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10:23:41 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121851&oldid=78326 * Chris Pressey * (+1401) Some updates on v1.1 and the compilications of showing it Turing-complete

10:24:26 <esolangs> [[User talk:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121852&oldid=118565 * None1 * (+194) /* category links */ new section

10:25:20 <esolangs> [[Category:Brainfuck equivalents]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121853&oldid=101267 * None1 * (+23)

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10:31:18 <esolangs> [[\]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121854&oldid=121848 * None1 * (-5) /* External resources */ use conjunctions correctly

10:41:43 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121855&oldid=121851 * Chris Pressey * (+944) /* Computational class */ Clarify the reasons why TC looks unlikely to me

10:50:17 <esolangs> [[Talk:Entropy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121856&oldid=31760 * None1 * (+9019) /* A little experiment */ new section

10:50:37 <esolangs> [[Talk:Entropy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121857&oldid=121856 * None1 * (+79) /* A little experiment */

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11:14:48 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121858&oldid=121855 * Chris Pressey * (+307) /* Computational class */ Also mention halting and some subtlety of Minsky machine simulation.

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11:30:12 <esolangs> [[Braindrunk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121859 * None1 * (+9771) Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1|i=[[Entropy]] and [[brainfuck]]}} It is like brainfuck, except the cell at the pointer is slightly modified after an instruction. It is named Braindrunk because its behavior seems drunken. There are two rates: increment rate and decrement rate, whi

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11:36:58 <esolangs> [[Braindrunk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121860&oldid=121859 * None1 * (+7792) /* Experiments */

11:38:07 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121861&oldid=121845 * None1 * (+17) /* B */

11:39:04 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121862&oldid=121846 * None1 * (+36) /* My Esolangs */

11:46:19 <esolangs> [[Talk:Braindrunk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121863 * None1 * (+4949) Created page with "==200x boost!== This is what I get when I made the increment and decrement rate 200x larger (0.2): ===Hello World=== >$M ===Classic Hello World=== <pre> </pre> ===99 bottles of beer=== ''Partial output'', it doesn't seem to stop <pre class="rectwrap"> A^/WGG4@.

11:47:11 <esolangs> [[Braindrunk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121864&oldid=121860 * None1 * (+75) /* Experiments */

12:02:06 <esolangs> [[Talk:1.1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121865 * Chris Pressey * (+969) How is 1.1 "essentially equivalent" to Markov algorithms?

12:13:14 <esolangs> [[Talk:Markov algorithm]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121866 * Chris Pressey * (+682) Article likely to have been plagiarised from Wikipedia

12:13:51 <esolangs> [[Talk:The Esoteric File Archive]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121867&oldid=37296 * None1 * (+178) /* Is this still active? */ new section

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15:04:43 <esolangs> [[Impossible Script]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121868 * LEOMOK * (+6347) Created page with "Programming might be hard for some people, but you will NEVER, EVER, EVER learn to code in '''Impossible Script'''. You need a zillionplex years to write useful programs in it. ==Description== This programming language uses a stack. These are the data types. {|

15:52:16 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121869&oldid=121807 * PaxtonPenguin * (-5)

15:53:03 <esolangs> [[When The]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121870&oldid=118874 * PaxtonPenguin * (+52)

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17:11:40 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121872&oldid=121631 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+14) /* Brainfuck derivatives */ add

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18:57:17 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Odeva55 * New user account

19:02:07 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121873&oldid=121762 * Odeva55 * (+82) /* Introductions */

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19:55:29 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * The Big Boy * New user account

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20:49:33 <esolangs> [[G arD^EN CorUtY@rD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121874&oldid=113808 * BoundedBeans * (-625) Changed proof to regular Cyclic Tag because Bitwise Cyclic Tag caused problems when the program ends with a lone 1

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21:14:53 <esolangs> [[PricK]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121876&oldid=121385 * Olus2000 * (+1258) /* PricK to BlooP */ Correct code after testing

21:20:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121877&oldid=121873 * The Big Boy * (+215) /* Introductions */

21:21:08 <esolangs> [[User:The Big Boy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121878 * The Big Boy * (+154) Created page with "An anonymous coder from Portland, Oregon who loves bricking motherboards, making computers from scratch, and otherwise messing around with low level stuff"

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22:46:50 <esolangs> [[Impossible Script]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121879&oldid=121868 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Category

22:53:35 <esolangs> [[CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121880&oldid=118236 * BoundedBeans * (+121) Added mirror to version 1.-94.-2.3

22:56:23 <esolangs> [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121881&oldid=121646 * BoundedBeans * (+12) Added GIVE UP statement to example .iacc

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02:27:55 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Loganz * New user account

02:30:34 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121884&oldid=121877 * Loganz * (+125) /* Introductions */

02:32:37 <esolangs> [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121885&oldid=121048 * Loganz * (+57) Add a shorter non-reversed hello world example

03:01:48 <esolangs> [[User:PinkysWorld/]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121886 * PinkysWorld * (+95) Created page with "You decided to type a slash in front of my username to see if anything would happen. Why?"

03:02:09 <esolangs> [[User:PinkysWorld]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121887&oldid=96254 * PinkysWorld * (-4)

07:24:50 <int-e> `le//rn schwartzian//In 1987, Yogurt introduced a better way to rank Schwartz users: Rather than holding an annual tournament, users would take a series of standardized tests adminstered by official Schwartz centers, and would then be ranked according to the results. This lead to the Schwartzian transform because it allowed many more users to be ranked.

07:24:55 <HackEso> Learned 'schwartzian': In 1987, Yogurt introduced a better way to rank Schwartz users: Rather than holding an annual tournament, users would take a series of standardized tests adminstered by official Schwartz centers, and would then be ranked according to the results. This lead to the Schwartzian transform because it allowed many more users to be ranked.

07:28:03 <int-e> `"

07:28:05 <HackEso> 1/1:1028) <Bike> I'm glad I quit programming to take up listening to numbers stations \ 19) <ehird> so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers

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09:25:43 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121888&oldid=121858 * Chris Pressey * (+4) Update links

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09:39:12 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121889&oldid=121888 * Chris Pressey * (+730) Add "interlock flag" idea, giving more hope that a Minsky machine could be built in Strelnokoff

09:58:35 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121890&oldid=121889 * Chris Pressey * (+144) Better info on division and relational operators.

09:59:23 <esolangs> [[Braindrunk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121891&oldid=121864 * None1 * (+13) /* Python interpreter */

09:59:32 <esolangs> [[Braindrunk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121892&oldid=121891 * None1 * (+1) /* Python interpreter */

10:29:12 <int-e> . o O ( Brainduck is like Ook! but with s/oOk/Quack/g )

10:29:40 <int-e> Ook, not oOk.

10:39:30 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121893&oldid=121890 * Chris Pressey * (-165) Re-explain the complications of building a Minsky machine now that I'm more optimistic about it

10:44:23 <esolangs> [[Impossible Script]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121894&oldid=121882 * LEOMOK * (+6) Fixed mistakes

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14:56:06 <esolangs> [[User talk:Graue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121897&oldid=86306 * None1 * (+283) /* The Esoteric File Archive */ new section

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15:44:07 <cpressey> Ah hmm, I just found out about a complexity class I hadn't heard of before - TOWER

15:45:06 <cpressey> Normalizing a term in STLC is TOWER-complete

15:45:19 <cpressey> and, ELEMENTARY ⊊ TOWER ⊊ PR

15:46:39 <cpressey> reference: https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/a/52113

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15:51:31 <wib_jonas> cpressey: is that the same as https://complexityzoo.net/Complexity_Zoo:T#tower ?

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15:57:47 <cpressey> wib_jonas: They look like they're referring to the same thing to me

15:58:42 <esolangs> [[EA Script, It's in the code.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121899&oldid=121895 * LEOMOK * (+0)

15:59:54 <cpressey> "Unlike ELEMENTARY and PR, which have no complete problems..." wait what? How is evaluating a primitive recursive function not PR-complete?

16:02:03 <cpressey> Ehhmm... "technical reasons that make my brain hurt".

16:02:10 <wib_jonas> crpessey: a primitive recursive function has a runtime of O(n↑↑c) for some constant c where n is the input length. if you want to evaluate any primitive recursive function then you need to handle arbitrarily high c, which no primitive recursive program can do, so evaulating a primitive recursive program isn't primitive recursive.

16:03:07 <wib_jonas> mind you, you would think the same about P, since a program in P has runtime bounded by O(n↑c) for some constant c, so that's not a valid argument

16:03:09 <cpressey> OK, but, a polynomial time function has a runtime of O(n^c) for some constant c, which can also be arbitrarily high -- but there IS such a thing as P-completeness.

16:03:17 <cpressey> jinx.

16:03:26 <wib_jonas> yeah, I don't know

16:03:38 <wib_jonas> guess you'll have to ask ais523, he knows how this works

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16:05:21 <cpressey> I think it has something more to do with the fact that completeness relies on reductions and what kind of reductions are allowable depends on the class you're targetting. (e.g. logspace reductions for P, polytime reductions for NP). I'm given to understand that PR is "closed under reductions that belong to ELEMENTARY" and the absence of

16:05:22 <cpressey> completeness has something to do with that.

16:09:55 <wib_jonas> I don't really know how P-complete is defined as in what reductions are allowed

16:10:34 <wib_jonas> NP-completeness just works out very fortunate with the definition where you always reduce one boolean output problem to one boolean output problem with the output not processed

16:11:26 <wib_jonas> but multiple kind of reductions could make sense for some class and it might not be clear which one you want

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16:15:35 <cpressey> More complexity fun: instead of scoffing at the thought that P=NP, you can (thanks to descriptive complexity theory) scoff at the thought that first-order logic with a least fixed point operator can express just as many provable statements as existential second-order logic can.

16:21:52 <wib_jonas> what

16:22:23 <wib_jonas> is that like express if you can choose any language, or express with some specific underlying language like integers with addition and multiplication and exponentiation or something like that

16:22:33 <wib_jonas> also that statement is more opaque and so less scoffworthy

16:30:29 <wib_jonas> I mean the question isn't just about what language, but about express as in have an axiom system and what to decide if it's consistent, or just express as in whether the statement is true for the natural numbers with those operations

16:33:51 <cpressey> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_complexity_theory can probably explain it better than I can. And yes, the logic version is harder to think about and thus less scoffworthy, but I think the more you're used to logic the easier it is to see it that way. It's not hard to see that plain SO logic is much more expressive than plain FO logic,

16:33:52 <cpressey> for example. And then it's just trying to figure out what those add-ons add.

16:38:08 <cpressey> Also, the difficult-to-see-the-scoffworthiness was supposed to be humourous.

16:40:02 <wib_jonas> yeah, in reality neither is scuffworthy because P!=NP is hard to prove

16:41:07 <wib_jonas> also scuffing at it would mean you scuff at the work of cryptographers who try to come up with trap functions that are hard to reverse, at least the part of their work that isn't about side-channels

16:41:20 <wib_jonas> (easy to compute forward and hard to reverse, obviously)

16:43:06 <cpressey> P!=NP may be hard to prove, but it's easy to rely on, apparently.

16:45:44 <wib_jonas> ok, I think that's technically not equivalent, the implication only goes backwards, if you scoff at the cryptographers then you scoff at P!=NP too, but not backwards, because the cryptographers want better bounds on how slow the function is to revers than just asymptotic non-polynomial

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17:11:31 <cpressey> <cpressey> How is evaluating a primitive recursive function not PR-complete? <--- bahhhh!!! Evaluating a PR function isn't even in PR, so how could it be PR-complete?

17:11:43 <cpressey> My brain, it is out of practice on this stuff

17:12:30 <cpressey> I'm not even sure what I'm interested in anymore.

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19:09:56 <b_jonas> cpressey: "Evaluating a PR function isn't even in PR" => yes, that's what I said, but also evaluating a polynomial time function isn't even in polynomial time

19:10:14 <b_jonas> no matter how you encode the functions

19:10:53 <b_jonas> and yet there is such a thing as P-complete

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21:40:37 <esolangs> [[Freestajlo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121906&oldid=121905 * LEOMOK * (+1) Fixed category section

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21:48:03 <esolangs> [[Threi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121910&oldid=120676 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+325) Completed the Hello, World! example in order to replicate the respective message in binary form.

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16:50:24 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff Turing-completeness proof]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121969 * Chris Pressey * (+4653) Created page with "We show that [[Strelnokoff]] is [[Turing-complete]] by showing how to convert any [[Alternating 1-based Minsky machine]] to an equivalent Strelnokoff program. ==Assumptions== We assume that Strelnokoff variables may contain integers

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17:33:09 <esolangs> [[Strelnokoff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121970&oldid=121893 * Chris Pressey * (-460) Unknown computational class -> Turing-complete

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20:43:25 <esolangs> [[User:DolphyWind]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121974 * DolphyWind * (+76) Created page with "I love programming, math and Celeste. [https://github.com/DolphyWind GitHub]"

20:43:56 <esolangs> [[User:DolphyWind]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121975&oldid=121974 * DolphyWind * (+26)

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21:17:49 <esolangs> [[Electra]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121976&oldid=120459 * DolphyWind * (+146)

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03:06:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * RetroGamer5491 * New user account

03:09:44 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121977&oldid=121917 * RetroGamer5491 * (+202) /* Introductions */

03:12:56 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121978&oldid=121968 * RetroGamer5491 * (+112) /* Graphical input and/or output */

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09:23:33 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121979&oldid=121598 * None1 * (+547) /* Brainbits */

09:24:46 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121980&oldid=121979 * None1 * (+11) /* Brainbits */

09:28:10 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121981&oldid=120939 * None1 * (+1254) /* Brainchicken */

09:28:21 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121982&oldid=121981 * None1 * (-1) /* Brainf*ck= */

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11:15:53 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121983&oldid=121960 * None1 * (+10) /* Commands */

11:17:26 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121984&oldid=121983 * None1 * (+13) /* Commands */

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11:45:15 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121985&oldid=121984 * None1 * (+358) /* Examples */

11:45:54 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121986&oldid=121211 * None1 * (+366) /* Brain-Flak */

11:50:46 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121987&oldid=121985 * None1 * (+4566) /* Examples */

11:51:13 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121988&oldid=121987 * None1 * (+9447) /* Python]] interpreter */

11:51:36 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121989&oldid=121988 * None1 * (+12659) /* Python interpreter */

11:51:59 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121990&oldid=121989 * None1 * (+12066) /* Python interpreter */

11:52:14 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121991&oldid=121990 * None1 * (+26434) /* Python interpreter */

11:52:45 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121992&oldid=121991 * None1 * (+3350) /* Python interpreter */

11:53:51 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121993&oldid=121992 * None1 * (+25) /* See also */

12:02:05 <esolangs> [[User:None1/]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=121994 * None1 * (+65) Created page with "Hey there! This isn't my user page, [[User:None1|'''this''']] is!"

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13:49:44 <esolangs> [[Mbfi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121995&oldid=89004 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+30) Category

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15:59:18 <esolangs> [[Folders]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121996&oldid=90933 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+33) Distinguish confusion

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16:00:35 <esolangs> [[Folder]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121997&oldid=116585 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+34) Distinguish confusion

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16:32:02 <esolangs> [[Portsy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121998&oldid=87191 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+46) Category

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18:13:38 <esolangs> [[Talk:Dragostea din tei]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=121999&oldid=121604 * LEOMOK * (+73)

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21:22:59 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122000&oldid=117236 * Europe2048 * (-4)

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21:53:39 <esolangs> [[Visify]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122001&oldid=74097 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+20) Fix command, improve wording

22:12:36 <esolangs> [[Papel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122002&oldid=107009 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+71) Categories

22:13:21 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[Papel]] to [[PAPEL]]: Fix capitalisation

22:13:21 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[Talk:Papel]] to [[Talk:PAPEL]]: Fix capitalisation

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23:12:11 <esolangs> [[Mbfi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122007&oldid=121995 * None1 * (+23) /* Code */

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23:38:07 <esolangs> [[WIWH]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122008 * BoundedBeans * (+7765) Created page with "WIWH (which stands for Wishing I Were Home, a song by the musician Todd Edwards, famous for having large amounts of tiny samples in his songs) is an esoteric programming language created in 2023 by [[User:BoundedBeans]] in which code is disguised as a sample find vide

23:38:45 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122009&oldid=121962 * BoundedBeans * (+11)

23:39:10 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122010&oldid=121649 * BoundedBeans * (+10)

23:40:31 <esolangs> [[WIWH-IH]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122011 * BoundedBeans * (+18) Redirect to WIWH

23:41:40 <esolangs> [[WIWH-IH]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122012&oldid=122011 * BoundedBeans * (+8) Made redirect to specifically the WIWH-IH section on the WIWH page

23:42:51 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122013&oldid=122010 * BoundedBeans * (+18)

00:25:42 <esolangs> [[Ueck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122014 * BoundedBeans * (+5873) Created page with "Ueck is an expression-based esolang by [[User:BoundedBeans]]. ==Syntax== There are only two expression types in this language. An item is either an unsigned 31-bit integer (0-2147483647) or an operator. Operators are one of the characters <code>+-*/@=!?</code>. A

00:26:09 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122015&oldid=122009 * BoundedBeans * (+11)

00:26:56 <esolangs> [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122016&oldid=122013 * BoundedBeans * (+10)

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09:00:42 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122017&oldid=122000 * None1 * (+242) /* Why is your interpreter with input? */

09:00:55 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122018&oldid=122017 * None1 * (+2) /* Why is your interpreter with input? */

09:13:59 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122019&oldid=122018 * None1 * (+2) /* Why is your interpreter with input? */

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09:24:13 <esolangs> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122020&oldid=87164 * None1 * (+207) /* Sample Code */ Add a+b problem example

09:27:56 <esolangs> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122021&oldid=122020 * None1 * (+237) /* Sample Code */

09:29:14 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jacobl * New user account

09:33:54 <esolangs> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122022&oldid=122021 * None1 * (+65) /* Sample Code */

09:36:24 <esolangs> [[Emoji-gramming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122023&oldid=122022 * None1 * (-65) /* Sample Code */

09:41:33 <esolangs> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122024&oldid=122023 * None1 * (+62) /* Interpreter */

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10:30:16 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122025&oldid=121964 * None1 * (+58) /* My Accounts */

10:31:51 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122026&oldid=121977 * Jacobl * (+81)

10:32:22 <esolangs> [[Wee]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122027 * None1 * (+45) Redirected page to [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]]

10:33:37 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122028&oldid=121409 * None1 * (-6) /* External resources */ This is an FSA because deadfish is

10:40:12 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122029 * Jacobl * (+3709) Created page with " = SpinGate = SpinGate is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-bit_computing 1 bit computer] with a corresponding single bit [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-instruction_set_computer 1-instruction language] intended to be implemented in hardw

10:40:33 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122030&oldid=122029 * Jacobl * (+8) /* Demo */

10:42:42 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/99 bottles]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122031 * None1 * (+43347) Created page with "{{Back|Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee}} The 99 bottles of beer in [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] is so long (about 14.892 megabytes) that it is unsuitable to put it on the wiki. Luckily, the powerful compression method LZMA compre

10:43:52 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/99 bottles]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122032&oldid=122031 * None1 * (+2)

10:44:12 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122033&oldid=122028 * None1 * (-314) /* External resources */

10:44:49 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122034&oldid=122033 * None1 * (+75) /* External resources */

10:45:24 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122035&oldid=122034 * None1 * (+14) /* Examples */

10:48:02 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122036&oldid=122035 * None1 * (+106) /* Examples */

10:48:15 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122037&oldid=122036 * None1 * (+4) /* Examples */

10:48:31 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122038&oldid=122037 * None1 * (+8) /* Examples */

10:56:41 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * None1 * uploaded "[[File:Input nice.png]]"

11:06:46 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * None1 * uploaded "[[File:2input nice.png]]": Input diagram, am I right for this?

11:07:49 <esolangs> [[Nice]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122041&oldid=121776 * None1 * (+27) /* Output */

11:19:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * None1 * uploaded "[[File:New stopn.PNG]]"

11:24:07 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122043&oldid=122019 * None1 * (+86) /* Sign checking */

11:24:16 <esolangs> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122044&oldid=122043 * None1 * (+79)

11:40:13 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Operation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122045&oldid=121946 * Kiken * (+1099)

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11:47:59 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122046&oldid=122030 * Jacobl * (+1) /* Bit Operations */

11:48:18 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122047&oldid=122046 * Jacobl * (+0) /* Logic Gates */

11:48:30 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122048&oldid=122047 * Jacobl * (+1) /* Nand */

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12:54:52 <esolangs> [[AETRF]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122049 * None1 * (+234) Created page with "AETRF or An Esolang That Refuses Files is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. If the program is read from standard input, it's the same as [[brainfuck]], otherwise it will print: FILE DETECTED, FAILED TO RUN [[Category:Languages]]"

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12:56:37 <esolangs> [[AETRF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122050&oldid=122049 * None1 * (+85)

12:56:49 <esolangs> [[AETRF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122051&oldid=122050 * None1 * (+29)

12:58:17 <esolangs> [[AETRF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122052&oldid=122051 * None1 * (+954)

12:59:08 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122053&oldid=121939 * None1 * (+46) /* General languages */

12:59:32 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122054&oldid=122025 * None1 * (+57) /* My Esolangs */

12:59:57 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122055&oldid=122054 * None1 * (+31) /* Other */

13:00:30 <esolangs> [[User:None1/ToDo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122056&oldid=118502 * None1 * (+95) /* Content */

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13:48:57 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/99 bottles]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122057&oldid=122032 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-7) Category

13:57:08 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122058&oldid=122048 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+84) Categories

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20:27:40 <esolangs> [[Migol 09]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122059&oldid=32425 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+216) Deadlinks; add archived link

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21:24:53 <esolangs> [[(?!)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122060&oldid=62877 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+791) Rectified the statement about the memory model, which suggests a single register in lieu of a tape, reformatted the command table, added a hyperlink to my implementation on GitHub, and supplemented three page category tags.

21:27:14 <esolangs> [[(?!)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122061&oldid=122060 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+489) Supplemented a Syntax section.

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00:38:49 <esolangs> [[Backtracking INTERCAL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122062&oldid=12110 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Wayback

00:39:54 <esolangs> [[Malcolm Ryan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122063&oldid=34081 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Wayback

00:45:06 <esolangs> [[Threaded INTERCAL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122064&oldid=120969 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-13) Wayback; implementation appears to be dead

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01:55:04 <esolangs> [[(?!)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122065&oldid=122061 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+43) Supplemented the lapsed output command entry in the Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF) formulation.

02:01:38 <esolangs> [[An Esolang That Refuses Files]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122066 * None1 * (+19) Redirected page to [[AETRF]]

03:08:47 <esolangs> [[SpinGate]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122067&oldid=122058 * None1 * (+19) /* Logic Gates */

05:40:00 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/99 bottles]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122068&oldid=122057 * None1 * (+12)

05:43:52 <esolangs> [[.fuck cat program]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122069&oldid=113012 * None1 * (+1)

05:45:32 <esolangs> [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122070&oldid=119100 * None1 * (+29) /* See also */

05:46:03 <esolangs> [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122071&oldid=122070 * None1 * (-1) /* Why is it brain-exploding */

05:46:17 <esolangs> [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122072&oldid=122071 * None1 * (-1) /* Why is it brain-exploding */

05:47:31 <esolangs> [[OCPL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122073&oldid=119103 * None1 * (-2)

05:50:32 <esolangs> [[OCPL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122074&oldid=122073 * None1 * (+29) /* Members */

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12:15:36 <cpressey> IRC seems really... dead.

12:17:06 <cpressey> Since I only use Libera maybe I should be fair and say "Libera seems really dead", but from what I understand Libera is the most popular IRC server.

12:17:08 <cpressey> https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php?year=2023

12:17:52 <cpressey> Wonder what happened in Aug 2023.

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12:32:06 <cpressey> All this other stuff now. https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/

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12:56:57 <int-e> "Wonder what happened in Aug 2023." -- "As of 2023-08-05, the official Libera.Chat bridge operated by Element Matrix Services (EMS) was taken down."

12:59:04 <fizzie> "Anyhow... It seems that the Internet Relay Chat has its best times well behind." As they say on the top-10 page.

13:03:11 <int-e> young people these days ( :-P ) are socialized differently.

13:04:32 <fizzie> They had an "here's how to use IRC" primer in the welcome leaflet for CS students at the university, I wonder what they have now.

13:05:00 <int-e> "You already know Discord, maybe have a look at Matrix too"

13:05:01 <int-e> :-P

13:05:05 <fizzie> I think I heard a rumor they even closed down the local NNTP server.

13:08:13 <fizzie> Looking at the student association web page, looks like they use Telegram now.

13:08:21 <int-e> Anyway, I think "dead" is an exaggeration but it is definitely winding down, and I think it will continue to do that for 2-3 more decades before it truly dies.

13:09:27 <int-e> Simply because IRC servers are cheap to keep alive, and IRC clients don't take up much screen space so you can leave them running forever.

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13:53:19 <int-e> cpressey: https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-01-17.html#lhb

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14:11:40 <int-e> Hmm. "I tried IRC but I can't 'like' it."

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14:16:56 <cpressey> "As of 2023-08-05, the official Libera.Chat bridge operated by Element Matrix Services (EMS) was taken down." <-- wait, does that mean you can no longer connect to Libera.Chat using Matrix? If so then the esowiki page about this channel might need updating.

14:18:06 <int-e> The seamless bridge (where you become an IRC user) is gone, yes.

14:18:39 <fizzie> Oh, I didn't even think of that. Yeah, the instructions are probably now incorrect.

14:20:46 <fizzie> Well, it says #esolangs:libera.chat "should" work, arguably that's not totally incorrect. It doesn't, but in a hypothetical perfect world, it probably should.

14:21:06 <int-e> :) (I thought the same thing)

14:21:32 <int-e> just add <s> </s> around it

14:23:13 <int-e> do I dare to check whether that #esocrypt channel on the network that shall not be named is still around?

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14:24:25 <int-e> it's empty.

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14:26:36 <int-e> (meh, I didn't think that would pick up all the autojoin channels)

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14:31:54 <fizzie> Which reminds me, we never actually made https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:IRC_cloaks happen, it just kind of stalled.

14:32:22 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122108&oldid=122026 * MaroonCoffee * (+193) Signed my name on the introduce_yourself page

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15:04:51 <int-e> `'

15:04:53 <HackEso> 197) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!"

15:05:00 <int-e> fizzie: tbh I never cared about those

15:08:28 <int-e> What a timely quote, D just got forked. https://dpldocs.info/this-week-in-arsd/Blog.Posted_2024_01_01.html

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15:09:46 <cpressey> TIL enough people still care about D to disagree with some other people who also still care about D

15:10:24 <int-e> Oh sure, I only noticed it because there was drama.

15:10:40 <int-e> D felt... unnecessary, I guess, to me.

15:11:14 <supercode> yes, ditto for me. I know the D author is active on HN and responds to many programming language threads and always shows examples from D about how D does something in programming language threads.

15:11:14 <int-e> If I had named the fork thogh I would've called it D++

15:11:16 <int-e> ;-)

15:11:33 <int-e> *though

15:11:39 <supercode> but recently I learnt there is a community and forking about it which means enough people care. didn't know that before.

15:12:46 <supercode> where did that quote come from? source of that quote?

15:14:40 <int-e> Almost all quotes produced by `' (= `quote) are from this channel.

15:16:12 <supercode> '197

15:16:35 <supercode> sorry new here. but how do I get it to print this quote: 197) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!"

15:17:29 <int-e> https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2011-01-22.html#lSA

15:17:39 <int-e> `' 197

15:17:40 <HackEso> 197) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!"

15:17:48 <supercode> `' 197

15:17:50 <HackEso> 197) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!"

15:18:01 <supercode> ah! eso-syntax for esolang channel!

15:18:06 <shachaf> `5 q

15:18:10 <HackEso> 1/2:599) <Phantom__Hoover> Minecraft has made me view all trees as ridiculously slender. \ 695) <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory \ 565) <elliott> ais523: those suck <elliott> hmm, those are all pretty good \ 529) <hagb4rd> jesus, yes.. he was human <hagb4rd> and that is fantastic <hagb4rd> more than beeing able to speak with fish.. like seaman does \ 886) <ais523> in Smalltalk, as in Fe

15:18:13 <shachaf> `n

15:18:14 <HackEso> 2/2:ather, in order to do I/O, you must first create the universe <Sgeo> ais523, it seems quite capable of I/O... GUI is a form of I/O <ais523> Sgeo: yeah exactly <ais523> where does the GUI come from? <ais523> it's written in Smalltalk, clearly <ais523> and how does the GUI do its I/O? <ais523> if you think about the issue for too long, you end up inventing Feather

15:18:35 <int-e> `help

15:18:36 <HackEso> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral.

15:18:57 <int-e> `pwd

15:18:57 <HackEso> /hackenv/tmp

15:18:58 <supercode> `run ls -l

15:18:59 <HackEso> total 396 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 163 May 27 2021 🌱 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 0 Nov 1 2022 3 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1192 Jul 22 2021 a.o \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 16608 Sep 26 2022 a.out \ drwxr-xr-x 7 1000 1000 4096 Dec 31 2019 asmbf-1.2.7 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 103 Nov 12 2019 banana.txt \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 32686 May 27 2021 bef2 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 17296 Nov 18 2019 bfi \ drwxr-xr-x 2 1000 1000 4096

15:19:12 <supercode> `run who am i

15:19:13 <HackEso> No output.

15:19:15 <supercode> `run who

15:19:16 <HackEso> No output.

15:19:20 <int-e> `` whoami

15:19:21 <HackEso> int-e

15:19:29 <int-e> magic!

15:19:58 <int-e> (not really: https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/bin/whoami )

15:23:32 <ais523> cpressey: I think most online communities tend to be pretty quiet at this time of year

15:23:48 <ais523> october/november are often very busy, with december/january much more empty

15:24:59 <ais523> I've had even more trouble doing anything at all this month than I have had over most of the past year

15:27:03 <ais523> and it's quite possible I'm not the only person in that situation

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15:32:20 <cpressey79> Well, maybe... but I remember noticing how quiet it seemed when I came back to IRC in autumn of last year.

15:32:32 <cpressey79> Quiet and different somehow.

15:32:49 <ais523> I think a parallel esolangs community has sprung up on Discord, which is a place that I intentionally avoid

15:32:59 <ais523> but I think it may have been becoming more quiet too

15:33:50 <ais523> and codegolf stack exchange's chat also became more quiet over time

15:34:14 <wib_jonas> int-e: what is the relationship between D and golang? are they trying to fill the same role, kind of like how rust is a more modern language with goals similar to C++, and zig is a more modern language with goals similar to C? or are they for completely different purposes?

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15:34:38 <ais523> wib_jonas: I don't think Go is trying to fill C's niche

15:35:13 <ais523> (although it was written by some of the same people)

15:35:20 <wib_jonas> ais523: yes, I'm asking about D versus golang, as in is golang trying to be a more modern language used for the same thing as D?

15:35:28 <ais523> oh, I see

15:35:33 <wib_jonas> ais523: I said that zig is trying to fill C's niche, and rust C++'s

15:35:40 <wib_jonas> these are just more than niches though

15:35:46 <ais523> go has found a niche mostly in writing network services/servers

15:36:22 <ais523> that said, I have not had a good experience with it – I haven't tried to write it myself, but regularly use one Go program written by someone else and it is a bit of a mess

15:36:37 <wib_jonas> "D felt... unnecessary, I guess, to me." => I perceived it as a research language, in the sense that it was made by someone who also made a C compiler and so probably wanted to experiment on how to make a better language. then it got somewhat succesful and popular.

15:37:14 <int-e> wib_jonas: I guess "systems programming language with support for garbage collection" makes it sound like golang. Except that maybe 2002 (rounding december 2001) was too early for people to embrace GC?

15:37:23 <ais523> the thing about making a better C, is that making a better C is easy, but making a better *enough* C is hard

15:37:48 <ais523> like, C has tons of well-known problems, many of which have well-known and simple solutions

15:38:12 <wib_jonas> supercode: there is some documentation at https://esolangs.org/wiki/HackEso , though it's really incomplete

15:38:14 <fizzie> int-e: Re cloaks, apparently a widely shared opinion based on nobody asking after them.

15:38:23 <ais523> but, the costs of switching language are high enough that something that simply fixes some/many of C's problems isn't better by enough to persuade people to make the switch

15:39:03 <ais523> Rust was the first language that was better by enough to persuade me to stop using C

15:39:35 <ais523> (and even then, it has a lot of issues, but they're manageable)

15:39:42 <int-e> D defintely predates the trend of every big company making their own programming language (unless you count Objective C and I guess Cocoa along with it)

15:40:12 <int-e> But I also never took D seriously enough to look at it closely.

15:40:13 <ais523> does Amazon have its own programming language?

15:40:22 <wib_jonas> ais523: yes, which is why zig is trying to be so fricking easy to mix with C, though this doesn't seem to be the aspect that they advertise the most. in particular, the zig compiler can parse C headers, including with macros, so you need less glue to use libraries with a C API than in eg. rust or haskell or zig. this is a large part of what made

15:40:22 <wib_jonas> C++ succeed.

15:40:49 <ais523> wib_jonas: I have definitely seen Zig evangelists advertise that their compiler is better at building C than a typical C compiler is

15:40:50 <int-e> ais523: Hmm, I guess not. They also don't have their own OS.

15:41:07 <int-e> That I know of.

15:41:14 <ais523> they do have the entire mess of AWS support libraries and services, that's kind-of like an OS

15:41:26 <wib_jonas> ais523: also zig manages to ship a working C and C++ compiler and libc for win32, and that's pretty hard these days, so you can use the same compiler toolkit and library to compile mixed C and C++ and zig for win32

15:41:28 <ais523> it's definitely a "platform you can write for"

15:42:17 <fizzie> They've also got an Android distribution on those Fire things. And an SDK for third-party apps to do special Amazon-integrated things on them, I think.

15:42:20 <ais523> int-e: also I get the feeling that in the past, it was more common for companies (even small ones) to have their own languages, rather than less

15:42:22 <int-e> ais523: And they have so many abstractions in the form of AWS services that they probably don't need a programming language to lock in people further.

15:42:35 <int-e> ais523: Anyway, yes, Amazon looks like an exception to the rule.

15:42:39 <cpressey79> One of Amazon's values is "frugality". It repurposes desks out of old doors and things like that.

15:42:59 <cpressey79> Providing their own language doesn't quite match with that value.

15:43:02 <wib_jonas> ais523: it is very likely better than other compilers that you can get for win32. you know how both intel and msvc have difficulty with their own compilers and so are experimenting with using clang as the compiler backend but with their own libraries, right? zig also ships clang, which is the easy part, the hard part is getting the libraries to

15:43:03 <wib_jonas> work on windows as well.

15:43:11 <int-e> And I should probably not discount Sun's Java which is an older big company programming language... though they made the core fairly open.

15:43:33 <ais523> wib_jonas: when I need to build C programs on Windows I normally use Strawberry Perl, which ships with a working C toolchain

15:43:50 <wib_jonas> ais523: hmm, I haven't tried that, interesting

15:43:55 <ais523> based on mingw I think

15:44:24 <int-e> funny

15:44:26 <cpressey79> Does Microsoft's 8-bit BASIC racket (and then later, Visual Basic) count as a "big company programming language"?

15:44:50 <ais523> cpressey79: that's kind-of inverted I think, in that them doing Basic predated them becoming a big company

15:44:51 <int-e> I'd look at C# for that.

15:44:56 <ais523> (and in fact they may have become big partly due to it)

15:45:29 <ais523> Microsoft has been making its own languages for ages, but few of them really caught on for non-Windows platforms

15:45:50 <ais523> C# is very commonly used on Windows, and TypeScript is somewhat popular on the web (but very recent compared to the other big Microsoft languages)

15:45:53 <int-e> cpressey79: "racket" - wasn't BASIC the original product

15:46:25 <int-e> before Digital Research botched their negotiations with IBM and MS got do make DOS for them?

15:47:03 <cpressey79> "racket" as in "Hey, you, micro manufacturer, your users are gonna need a way to USE that micro of yours ain't they? Well we got the solution for you!"

15:47:15 <int-e> Ah.

15:48:21 <cpressey79> In the phrase "Applesoft BASIC" the word "Applesoft" is a portmanteau of "Apple" and "Microsoft".

15:49:13 <cpressey79> But anyway. They own GitHub now, so they got their "Developers! Developers! Developers!" wish.

15:49:31 <ais523> the relationship between Apple and Microsoft over the years has been hard to follow

15:50:29 <wib_jonas> it doesn't seem like supercode has been welcomed yet

15:50:32 <wib_jonas> `welcome supercode

15:50:34 <HackEso> supercode: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)

15:51:43 <supercode> thanks!

15:54:46 <wib_jonas> as for languages with inconveniences, do these modern javascript thingies have an array type yet that just throws an error if you try to index it out of bounds, or are they still mostly doing the perl for array types?

15:55:22 <wib_jonas> because that sounds like you don't need an entirely new language for, just some library addition

15:56:47 <ais523> wib_jonas: there's TypedArray

15:57:09 <ais523> although that only stores integers of a specified bit size

15:57:19 <ais523> or IEEE floats

15:58:43 <ais523> modern JavaScript does have a proper map type Map (as opposed to the old-fashioned Object) – fixing that was more urgent than fixing the arrays, I think

15:59:13 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122109&oldid=122102 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* T */ Alphabetise

16:00:29 <wib_jonas> sure, fixing Map was more important

16:00:37 <wib_jonas> and possibly easier too

16:01:56 <ais523> fwiw, "arrays that grow when you index past the last element" make a lot of sense for memory-safe langauges

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16:03:50 <ais523> actually I think a lot of the conceptual interest with array types is that they're a sort of general-purpose type that can be used to represent a lot of different sorts of data, and the "optimal" array behaviour is different in each case

16:04:12 <APic> *nod*

16:04:28 <ais523> for example, an array can be used to represent a map from integers to values, or an ordered list, or an unordered list

16:04:48 <ais523> and all three of those data structures are somewhat general in their own right

16:05:56 <ais523> but, the map grows in a different way from the lists, and the lists grow in a different way from each other (in particular, when an array is used to represent an unordered list, it grows only at the end, and can be deleted from efficiently via swapping the element you're deleting to the end)

16:06:40 <ais523> actually no, the swap-delete isn't efficient because actually finding the element you want to delete is O(n)

16:07:00 <ais523> this is a common fallacy with unordered data structures, e.g. non-intrusive linked lists are slow to delete from for the same reason

16:07:18 <ais523> sorry for making the mistake (although I am glad I caught myself quickly)

16:08:20 <int-e> I mean it's true in that the actual act of deleting is cheap

16:09:28 <ais523> it is strange that intrusive linked lists aren't more widely supported in high-level languages, given that their performance properties are hard to obtain in other ways

16:09:46 <int-e> So you can have a nice little container whose operations are: insert, pick random element, and delete

16:10:08 <int-e> if you need to track elements as they're swapped it easily becomes expensive

16:10:26 <ais523> that reminded me of an idea I had for playing TCGs

16:10:55 <ais523> where, instead of your deck being an ordered pile of cards, only the cards that had been placed on the top or bottom of the deck by a card effect were tracked in a pile

16:10:58 <int-e> ah

16:11:12 <ais523> and the other cards were placed in a not-necessarily-random order on a grid with coordinates

16:11:20 <int-e> ...saving one indirection shouldn't have a fancy name

16:11:25 <int-e> IMHO

16:11:38 <ais523> to draw a card, if there were no nonrandom cards on top of the deck, you would roll dice to see which card was on top

16:12:03 <ais523> int-e: intrusive linked lists isn't just a case of saving an indirection

16:12:13 <ais523> they let you start with a pointer to an object that's on a list, and discover its place in the list

16:12:36 <ais523> if the list is doubly-linked, which it almost always is for intrusive linked lists, you can then delete it without having to search for it first

16:13:45 <int-e> Sure, I get all that. I have used what is apparently called intrusive linked lists myself.

16:13:54 <int-e> I called them linked lists.

16:13:55 <int-e> :P

16:14:13 <ais523> well, the LinkedList type in languages that have one is almost always non-intrusive

16:14:33 <ais523> (and you can't write an intrusive linked list in safe Rust because the borrow checker doesn't understand them, so linked lists go almost unused there)

16:15:25 <int-e> that's true regardless of whether they're intrusive or not...

16:15:44 <ais523> you can write a singly linked non-intrusive list in safe Rust, it's just basically useless

16:16:46 * int-e wonders whether Knuth makes this distinction

16:18:33 <wib_jonas> "a lot of the conceptual interest with array types is that they're a sort of general-purpose type that can be used to represent a lot of different sorts of data" => sure, and it'

16:18:56 <wib_jonas> and there's a sort of evolution towards type safety where something is first implemented on normal arrays, then later moved into a new type

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16:21:48 <wib_jonas> that's why we now have binary heap types, sorted array types (flat_map and flat_multimap), vectors with a capacity, typically-small arrays that store a few elements inside them but can allocate into the heap when they outgrow that, string types, matrix types, types for triangular matrix, symmetric matrix, hermitian matrix, as well as just stack and

16:21:48 <wib_jonas> queue types, and sometimes even multi-threaded queues with an associated condition variable and all that jazz

16:22:17 <cpressey> I first learned about linked lists so long ago that "intrusitivity" was just an assumed property of all linked lists

16:22:21 <int-e> Knuth doesn't dwell on linked lists all that much but his default linked list is intrusive.

16:22:47 <cpressey> If you want to link records together you need to add a link to the record, duh

16:22:59 <int-e> exactly

16:23:29 <wib_jonas> "Knuth doesn't dwell on linked lists all that much" => what? isn't like half of chapter 2 about linked lists (including doubly-linked and other variants), plus memory allocation schemes that use linked lists to chain free blocks?

16:25:34 <wib_jonas> "it is strange that intrusive linked lists aren't more widely supported in high-level languages, given that their performance properties are hard to obtain in other ways" => yes, but you rarely need those performance properties. you can do most of what they do with various array types.

16:26:08 <wib_jonas> also lists are hard to support in a memory-safe language because you need a way to have a smart pointer (iterator) onto a list element

16:26:24 <ais523> fwiw, I think generally for situations where intrusive linked lists are good, the only alternative with comparable performance properties is a relational database with indexes

16:26:25 <int-e> wib_jonas: oh you're right, that section is longer than the index suggests. probably because I looked for the wrong keyword.

16:26:37 <int-e> anyway, it's still true that his default is "intrusive"

16:26:39 <ais523> which is O(log n) slower for some important operations and has worse constant factors

16:27:00 <wib_jonas> and if the code does not use pointers into the list elements, then it probably only wants either a dequeue, which you can make from two arrays, or a list that you can sort

16:27:26 <ais523> (these are also situations in which a garbage collector doesn't help at all – if you don't know when the last reference to an object is disappearing anyway, you have a logic bug)

16:27:41 <wib_jonas> now for low level languages, sure, if you're writing a kernel then use intrusive lists where appropriate, but then it's on you to make sure you don't reference stale pointers

16:28:03 <ais523> why *should* it be on me? why can't I have a language that can guarantee memory safety and still give me intrusive lists?

16:29:40 <cpressey> Short answer: economics

16:29:48 <int-e> Anyway, fine, I'll get over it... eventually.

16:29:57 <cpressey> Come to think of it, that's the short answer to everything

16:32:43 <wib_jonas> ais523: I guess you can, you just have to use weak references with backlinks and all that sort of nonsense, but it's not often that that case comes up, because in most of the cases it's easier to use arrays, possibly also with backlinks to references, and in the rest a list isn't powerful enough and you need some kind of tree structure

16:33:17 <ais523> wib_jonas: the weak references are pretty hard to prove to be memory-safe, though (which in this case means "do not unexpectedly null themselves out")

16:34:05 <ais523> oddly, the memory-unsafe languages are much easier to get this right in, because you only have to check the invariants on the references in a few places

16:34:07 <wib_jonas> basically in each node in the list (or each element of the array) you have to track the references to it, clear the reference if you delete that node (or element in the array), for an array or singly-linked list only update the link when you move the element, and

16:34:24 <wib_jonas> if you want to make copies of the full list (such as for undo purposes) then it gets much worse

16:34:43 <ais523> right

16:35:23 <wib_jonas> and this applies regardless whether your reference to the node is a normal or weak reference

16:35:27 <ais523> this reminds me of the "reverse strong reference" concept (a reference from A to B that holds A alive for as long as B is alive – a regular strong reference holds B alive for as long as A is alive)

16:36:45 <ais523> (they have to be combined with objects that have weak references to A in order to make any sense at all, but allow you to do things that you couldn't otherwise automatically do in GCed languages)

16:37:22 <wib_jonas> I did this in a very small scale when I implemented a structure that whose elements are both a binary heap by weight and in a dictionary by another key. to implement this, the dictionary stores indexes into the heap, and whenever I move items in the binary heap I have to update the indexes in the dictionary.

16:38:32 <ais523> this seems like the sort of thing that a language really should be able to do automatically (if nothing else, it would be less error-prone than doing it by hand)

16:38:51 <ais523> but it's also the sort of thing that encourages me to use databases, which are normally very good at it

16:39:00 <ais523> SQL has ON DELETE CASCADE, for example

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16:40:52 <wib_jonas> oh, I have a question. rust's rc module (and, IIUC, python's weak references) implement a kind of weak reference, where instead of the back references being on an intrusive list, the weak-referencable object just has a counter of the weak references, and when the object would die but has weak references then the allocation (but not the object

16:40:52 <wib_jonas> contents) is kept alive until the last weak reference disappears. why is this ever better than just putting the weak references on a backlink?

16:41:25 <ais523> what do you mean by "backlink" here?

16:42:04 <ais523> in Rust's case I strongly suspect it's caused by arbitrary objects being movable via memcpy

16:42:24 <ais523> and you can't move an intrusive list via memcpy because it would break the pointers

16:42:43 <ais523> so it may be the most efficient solution that's compatible with the language invariants

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16:44:55 <wib_jonas> I mean, if I have to implement weak references, then in each weak-referencable object I'll have a pointer field that points to the first weak reference to the object, and each weak reference has a pointer field to the next weak reference to the same object, thus forming an intrusive singly-linked list (hopefully short) of the weak references to any

16:44:55 <wib_jonas> one object. before I destroy a weak reference I traverse the whole list to find that weak reference and delete it from the list. if the referenced object is destroyed then I iterate the list of weak references and mark them as invalid (null them out). (you could even do a doubly-linked list of weak references if you expect there will be many for

16:44:56 <wib_jonas> the same object.) this is what I mean by a backlink in the case of weak references.

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16:45:49 <int-e> wib_jonas: as ais523 said you can't rely on objects in Rust to have a fixed location during their lifetime because of move semantics.

16:46:00 <wib_jonas> hmm yes, you have a point about rust and how intrusive list wouldn't be movable, yse

16:46:22 <wib_jonas> that would make the weak references immovable, which makes them very hard to use

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16:48:18 <wib_jonas> ais523 may be right about how it may be worth in a high-level language to support intrusive structures, because it may help the programmer avoid errors, either memory safety errors, or inconsistency between redundant data

16:48:39 <wib_jonas> and about how relational databases are doing that

16:49:10 <wib_jonas> but SQL databases also don't easily let you do the things that you can do with a doubly-linked list, like insert or delete elements in the middle or cut and glue lists

16:49:32 <ais523> the other thing that languages like Rust seem to be missing is a concept that I don't have a good name for yet, but it's basically "values that are conceptually part of the object, but instead of being stored in the object, are stored by the users of the object and provided whenever you call a method on it"

16:49:37 <cpressey> "High level" goes hand-in-hand with "Don't make me think about memory management"

16:49:55 <cpressey> If you need to think about memory management you pick a lower-level language

16:50:15 <ais523> e.g. instead of storing the length of an array in the array itself, the users of the array remember how long it is, and tell it each time, and this is enforced in the type system for correctness

16:50:23 <cpressey> This is a slightly expanded version of my earlier short answer, "economics"

16:50:24 <ais523> cpressey: I think memory is a bit of a red herring

16:50:42 <ais523> what's actually important for mutable things is tracking object identity

16:51:05 <ais523> i.e. if I mutate this object, what references to similar-looking objects also get mutated?

16:51:08 <cpressey> Tracking object identity is a form of memory management

16:51:19 <ais523> yes, they're very similar

16:51:19 <wib_jonas> ais523: you mean when this value isn't known at compile-time, right? because rust has got better at the compile-time version where a type is parametrized by compile-time data

16:51:33 <ais523> wib_jonas: yes, for non-compile-time values, Rust can already do it for values known at compile time

16:51:49 <ais523> I want something that works almost exactly like a const generic except that the value is determined at runtime

16:53:14 <ais523> (this may mean that we need types that exist only for a certain scope, and functions that are generic over them, but that's OK – due to Rust tracking lifetimes, it already has plenty of types that work like that, such as &'a)

16:53:43 <cpressey> My answer sort of implies that Rust is a lower-level language though. I'm sure you can get a certain amount into Rust without having to think about memory management. But I'm also sure if you get serious enough, you hit a point where you can't avoid it.

16:56:17 <cpressey> And I'm sure this is why I like pure functional languages - I don't even have to think about object identity in them.

16:56:21 <ais523> my current viewpoint is very much "if you have mutable things, you need to track what you know about their identities to avoid logic bugs, and then working out when to delete them is normally trivial – however, a garbage collector is useful for immutable things, and the language should be able to check your manual deletion logic for memory safety"

16:56:39 <wib_jonas> ais523: the particular case I was thinking about is how to make a text editor that lets you do any of the following and its algorithms are asymptotically efficient in theory (as opposed to efficient in most practical cases): insert or delete text anywhere, delete or copy a block of text; place any number of named bookmarks, and use two or three of

16:56:39 <wib_jonas> those bookmarks to tell which block to delete or copy, or one bookmark to tell where to insert or delete text; if you copy a block and there was a bookmark inside, let you find where the bookmark goes in the copy and turn that into a new bookmark; have an undo/version history. as far as I can tell this is possible, but gets really ugly. the problem

16:56:40 <wib_jonas> is that undo interacts in an ugly way with an already complicated structure.

16:56:42 <cpressey> [1, 2, 3] == [1, 2, 3] and I wonder which bot will give me an error for starting a message with [

16:57:28 <cpressey> oh nice, not a single one. Well then. Looks like I need to write a bot that responds to [

16:58:05 <wib_jonas> cpressey: j-bot is down right now, sorry

16:58:49 <wib_jonas> though it probably wouldn't have responded, the grammar requires a space (or certain punctuation) after the [ shortcut

17:00:02 <wib_jonas> ais523: this is why I was asking about your 2-3 tree library by the way. but as far as I can tell it wouldn't be *enough* for this theoretical editor, it would just help.

17:00:07 <ais523> I think equality operators are awkward because they don't clearly convey intent

17:00:26 <ais523> for immutable objects, the equality you care about is generally "are these two objects interchangeable/indistinguishable"

17:01:03 <ais523> for mutable objects, it could be either "do these objects currently contain equal values" (a sort of "snapshot equality") or "do these objects have the same identity, i.e. mutating one mutates the other"

17:01:23 <ais523> wib_jonas: ah, I see – yes, I doubt it would be enough

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17:03:53 <wib_jonas> what I would need is a (tree of trees) inside a tree. tree of trees is easy, it's just a tree with a tree in each leaf. but tree inside a tree means that the inner tree is implemented such that what would normally be pointers are indexes, and the outer tree is keyed by these indexes, so that the outer tree is immutable and you modify it only by

17:03:53 <wib_jonas> copying a logarithmic number of nodes, and the indexes stay valid in both the old and new version of the outer tree.

17:03:54 <cpressey> The problem where "you say equality but what you really want is equivalence" seems to be quite a deep one actually. I see mathematicians talking about these sorts of things, at least I imagine that is what the things that they say must mean.

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17:05:36 <cpressey> "Setoid", that's the word I was looking for

17:05:39 <ais523> I've co-written some CS papers, precisely defining the notion of "these programs do the same thing" is surprisingly nuanced

17:07:10 <wib_jonas> and in a (tree of trees) inside a tree, both the trees inside have to use indexes (that are keys of the outer tree) instead of pointers

17:07:53 <wib_jonas> that said, a (tree of trees) inside a tree is probably not the only data structure that can do what I want, I was thinking about alternatives

17:08:15 <ais523> cpressey: so one of these deep equivalence problems I've wondered about is "is a pointer to an immutable thing any different from the thing it points to"

17:08:31 <ais523> and my conclusion is, that sometimes in practice it is, but it shouldn't be

17:08:57 <ais523> although it is not necessarily clear what "immutable" means if mutable things also exist the same language

17:09:07 <cpressey> "These programs produce the same outputs from the same inputs with the same performance except one of them exhibits some timing characteristics that can be exploited to expose security loopholes." Oops!

17:10:06 <ais523> oh right, side-channels too

17:10:09 <wib_jonas> .oO( nothing is immutable anymore, nobody makes ROM chips, even the CPU has a non-volatile RAM in it so you can upload security fixes)

17:10:46 <ais523> actually a major part of my research prior to my PhD was in a field which tries to precisely define the notion of "timing is irrelevant"

17:11:14 <ais523> wib_jonas: non-volatile? I thought CPU microcode updates were stored in volatile RAM and uploaded during early boot

17:11:37 <cpressey> Everything's mutable if you have a big enough plasma discharge

17:12:04 <ais523> that said, I think there is NVRAM in the CPU but it's used for something else

17:12:28 <ais523> possibly the keys for verifying that the bootloader is signed correctly

17:12:30 <wib_jonas> ais523: uh, possible, I don't know

17:13:45 <wib_jonas> cpressey: right, melting down the very wires

17:14:56 <wib_jonas> there are a few people who specialize on destructively examining chips, so yes, even ROM is mutable in that sense

17:16:57 <wib_jonas> they're allowed to be more destructive than the medical imaging folks who merely paint my organs with chemicals that either show up easily on x-ray/CT or MR or are radiocative and show up on a radiation detector

17:17:36 <wib_jonas> the medical imaging folks have to ensure that I survive, the chip microscope folks usually don't have to ensure that the chip survives

17:21:23 <cpressey> So, OK: reframe "immutable" as "X is prevented from changing Y by Z". In practice, X being able to see Y is a prerequisite for X being able to change Y sensibly. Sometimes, programming language work these things out, according to their own theories, and sometimes they don't.

17:21:47 <cpressey> Obvious example, "private" fields in OO languages.

17:25:24 <wib_jonas> I don't remember all details, but I think rust has some hidden language rules that depend on what things are mutable and immutable.

17:28:08 <ais523> wib_jonas: the main one is that anything that is mutable via an & pointer has to either be UnsafeCell, or else contain its immutable portion within an UnsafeCell (possibly indirectly)

17:28:15 <ais523> * contain its mutable portion

17:31:38 <wib_jonas> right, that's the main thing, but there are more details that I don't remember

17:33:03 <wib_jonas> also Rust has done library improvements so there are a lot of new abstractions to express stuff, but by "new" I mean in the last five years

17:34:10 <cpressey> The "memory must be moveable" thing in Rust, I hadn't heard of. Is that a library level thing or is the language itself imposing that restriction?

17:35:13 <ais523> cpressey: it's almost a language level thing

17:35:25 <ais523> in that the language does implicit moves in a lot of cases

17:35:47 <ais523> if you want to use immoveable memory, you can, but you can only access it via pointer types that have been carefully designed to ensure that the thing they point to can't ever move

17:36:48 <ais523> (and although the compiler can verify that they're being used safely once created, it can't verify that they're being created safely, so you need some amount of unsafe to use them)

17:36:55 <cpressey> I'm always confused about where they want to draw the lines in Rust

17:37:14 <cpressey> (responding to "almost a language level thing")

17:37:24 <ais523> well, technically it's an explicit move: function calls and assignments always move

17:38:01 <ais523> except when they copy, and the move versus copy decision is a documented property of the type that's being moved/copied (and that you can choose for your own data types)

17:38:10 <ais523> also, the move or copy is always bitwise

17:38:20 <ais523> it's just that these moves and copies are really pervasive and have very lightweight syntax

17:38:25 <ais523> so it feels like they're happening automatically

17:38:27 <cpressey> wait wait what

17:38:39 <cpressey> "assignments always move"?

17:38:54 <ais523> yep, a=b will always move b, unless b is a bitwise-copy type in which case it copies b

17:40:35 <ais523> cpressey: here's an example: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=1446dfeee2c6c527ec508397f7cfc599

17:40:50 <cpressey> I think you must mean "move" in some way different from how I was using the word

17:41:24 <ais523> the Rust definition is "the bits are copied from the memory that stored b into the memory that stores a, and the memory that stored b is now considered uninitialized"

17:41:46 <ais523> so trying to do anything with b after that will give you a use-after-free error

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17:42:39 <ais523> in practice, therefore, you have to use references a lot (so it's the reference that gets moved/copied rather than the thing it references)

17:42:41 <cpressey> OK, I see that as a typing thing. The ownership moves.

17:43:05 <ais523> ownership moves, but if you decompile the code, the bits move too (unless the move can be optimised out)

17:43:27 <ais523> if I write a function fn b(x: u8) -> Box<u8> { Box::new(x) }

17:43:29 <cpressey> Bits never move

17:43:47 <ais523> well, the bits are copied and then the original is considered uninitialised

17:43:54 <ais523> err, u8 is a bad example because it's copied

17:44:12 <ais523> but the value comes into the function in a register, and then is copied/moved to the heap

17:45:21 <cpressey> I hesitate to ask whether a=3 is considered to have moved 3 and now 3 is considered uninitialized

17:46:36 <cpressey> This is esolang territory.

17:46:39 <ais523> cpressey: 3 has a copiable type

17:46:47 <ais523> so it's considered to copy the 3 from the program, but it stays there

17:47:36 <ais523> if you tried that with an uncopiable type you would get a compile error because the code wouldn't run properly the second time, except that I can't think of any ways to create a literal that isn't Copy

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19:35:19 <cpressey> There is still a small knot in my understanding about why Rust hates intrustive linked lists but I think it is probably minor.

19:35:43 <cpressey> I'm probably never going to write anything in Rust so I'm just happy to forget it.

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20:01:33 <cpressey> If adoption of a thing comes down to "social proof" (i.e. everyone else in our network has adopted this so we need to adopt it too in order to stay in the network), then all the other argumentation for or against that thing is just... I could say "useless" but I suspect there is a mot juste here that I can't quite get my butterfly net around.

20:03:42 <cpressey> "Sophistry" isn't quite right because it's not necessarily sophistry, but there is also absolutely nothing preventing it from degrading into sophistry.

20:04:55 <cpressey> "Vacuous" is pretty close. It's no longer tethered to anything, so it can go anywhere, anywhere at all.

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22:15:19 <zzo38> I still prefer IRC and I think it is better than the other one. I also still use NNTP and I think it is better than the other one, too.

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04:25:41 <esolangs> [[ThreadFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122133&oldid=122132 * None1 * (+90) /* Example 2 */

04:46:53 <esolangs> [[ThreadFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122134&oldid=122133 * None1 * (+470) /* Examples */ Added another lock example

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10:59:22 <cpressey> So I recently updated Strelnokoff. I wrote another implementation. I'm trying to release it.

11:00:09 <cpressey> This has indirectly caused me to look at open source licensing again, more critically this time.

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11:01:10 <cpressey> It's a mess. (but I'm sure you already knew that)

11:02:31 <cpressey> It's especially a mess if you just want to put something into the public domain.

11:34:51 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122137 * None1 * (+1233) Created page with "{{WIP}}{{Lang|a=User:None1|i=[[hash function]]}} ==Hash== HashedPoem programs consists of '''words''' separated by whitespaces (spaces, tabs, linefeeds). Each word has a hash value, the hash of a lowercase string a0a1a2...al-1</sub

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11:37:53 <wib_jonas> cpressey: yes it is

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11:53:59 <cpressey> The Unlicense is OSI approved, but people wail about how it won't work in Germany. CC0 will work in Germany, but the FSF wails about how it doesn't protect users from patent treachery.

11:58:46 <cpressey> There also seems to be a trend of butchering the licenses themselves. If I see "License: MIT" I'm just supposed to know that a MIT-style license applies in the absence of the full legal text, even though the full legal text has a specific clause about how "redistribution must include this list of conditions".

12:01:24 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122144&oldid=122143 * None1 * (+1328) /* Integer representation */

12:01:25 <cpressey> Some conventions recommend using a license file that starts with "(c) <year> <name>" and putting the actual copyright messge in the source file; even though there is text in the license referring to "the above copyright message".

12:01:25 <wib_jonas> cpressey: what annoys me is that most of the shorter licenses fail to specify time or space limits. they should specifically say that they give you a perpetual worldwide license, or something equivalent to that.

12:01:57 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122145&oldid=122144 * None1 * (-9) Finished

12:02:23 <cpressey> (More specifically, I should've said a template license file that start with the *literal* text "(c) <year> <name>")

12:03:20 <wib_jonas> cpressey: why is that a problem if it's a template and the other files distributed have the copyright message filled in? do you want an explicit license to distribute the license?

12:03:25 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122146&oldid=122118 * None1 * (+17) /* H */

12:04:38 <cpressey> wib_jonas: The license template reads like it requires copies to contain the literal text "(c) <year> <name>", rather than the copyright message. The sane thing would be to update the license to say "the copyright message in the covered file" (or something) rather than "the above copyright message".

12:05:15 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122147&oldid=122103 * None1 * (+98) /* My Esolangs */

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12:08:01 <cpressey> I realize that hardly any of this ever comes to legal action, and when it does, they often base the arguments on the intent of the person releasing the thing, and aren't locked into a literal reading of the text

12:08:03 <cpressey> Still

12:08:09 <cpressey> It bugs me.

12:28:15 <wib_jonas> the python license says world-wide but doesn't say perpetual; the X11 license gives neither a time nor space unless you interpret "without restriction" as that; the BSD licenses don't give either time or space extent and some versions don't even say it's free of money; the Boost license doesn't give either time or space extent. even longer licenses

12:28:16 <wib_jonas> don't always seem to get it right, the GPL is rather implicit about space or time limits.

12:30:15 <wib_jonas> the Apache license is one of those that does get this right, it says "perpetual, worldwide, ..., no-charge, royalty-free"

12:30:25 <wib_jonas> so are the Creative Commons licenses by the way

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12:33:27 <wib_jonas> or... wait a moment

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12:39:55 <wib_jonas> the CC-0 disclaimer does say perpetual worldwide (not in these words but equivalent), but the CC-BY-4.0 license only says worldwide and doesn't seem to give a time extent

12:42:02 <int-e> the latter says "This Public License applies for the term of the Copyright and Similar Rights licensed here."

12:42:23 <int-e> Which is even more specific than "perpetual" would be.

12:43:21 <int-e> (showing that keyword searches are not adequate for this)

12:43:27 <wib_jonas> oh good, so it does give a time. good.

12:43:41 <wib_jonas> that explains why I thought it gave a time extent. I checked this at some point.

12:46:48 <wib_jonas> what I'd like is a license that gives you the same rights as the CC-BY-4.0, but with the additional license that 70 years after you acquire the licensed work you can redistribute it under the CC-0 disclaimer

12:49:11 <int-e> There's a proper mess here (all depending on jurisdictions). For example, there's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities (making "perpetual" problematic) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_lives_clause as a response to that.

12:49:47 <wib_jonas> I want to work around the stupid way how the copyright law incentivizes you to kill creators (make it look like an accident) so that the copyright protections expire earlier. An additional license disclaiming the copyright 70 years after you acquire the work would remove this incentive.

12:50:16 <wib_jonas> well, mostly remove it. technically you could still kill me to get the rights for a yet unpublished work earlier.

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12:52:27 <wib_jonas> int-e: hmm

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12:56:25 <wib_jonas> int-e: wait, that page you linked "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_lives_clause" gives as example "all the lineal descendants of his Majesty King Charles III who have been born before the date of this agreement". isn't that only eight people, all in one family? that sounds a bit too few for run-over-by-a-truck insurance.

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12:57:11 <wib_jonas> I mean, they probably won't all crash on the same single plane, but still, why would you bet on that when you could just specify more people with not much drawback?

12:57:27 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122157&oldid=122156 * None1 * (+6) /* Programs */

12:57:43 <int-e> wib_jonas: sure, you could cast your net wider if you have other people that you hate with a passion ;)

12:58:17 <int-e> since apparently you think that this stuff creates and assassination market

13:04:08 <wib_jonas> no, I think that's backwards. you're saying that the Rule against perpetuities might prohibit a creator to give a perpetual license, or might prohibit the distributor to have such a license, so you use this workaround to write a license that's close enough to perpetual. that encourages them to keep those royalty alive. that's unless perhaps you're

13:04:08 <wib_jonas> an unfriendly heir of the creator who doesn't like that your ancestor gave a perpetual license, or you somehow acquired an alternate license that's more perpetual than what most people have

13:07:24 <int-e> wib_jonas: I'm not saying that you should use that particular workaround. It's noteworthy though that with copyright, the copyright term is longer than those 21 years beyond the life span of the most likely licensor (the author)

13:07:51 <int-e> My main point was really that there's a proper mess out there.

13:08:31 <wib_jonas> sure

13:09:39 <int-e> (And not a mess I understand. I know of a few highlights.)

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13:15:54 <wib_jonas> the unspecified time and place bothers me because the law about copyrights "https://njt.hu/jogszabaly/1999-76-00-00.48#sc1999-76-00-00-672" says that if the space extent is not specified in a copyright license then it applies only to redistribution in Hungary only by default, if the duration is not specified then it applies to the usual duration

13:15:55 <wib_jonas> used for similar types of work by default, and that if the copyright license is ambiguous then it must be interpreted as granting the least rights to the redistributor and the most rights to the creator

13:16:47 <wib_jonas> so if I publish something with a license like the X11 license then I can later claim that I did not allow you to redistribute it outside of Hungary

13:18:55 <wib_jonas> this law was basically originally designed for TV series broadcast on the few government-owned television channels, and for dead-tree publishers to sell author's books through book stores, and it really shows. there are some parts of the law that are good, but some are just moronic

13:22:35 <wib_jonas> like, really, they tried to write it in a forward-thinking way, but the extent of that is that there's like tons of references of satellite television in addition to earth-based broadcast.

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11:47:57 <cpressey> It's fun to write code! It's easy to write incorrect code. It's NOT fun to debug code.

11:47:57 <cpressey> So that coding project of yours? Will be a fun project! Until one day. Then the project becomes NOT fun.

11:52:41 <cpressey> I think a lot about motivation and stuff these days

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11:57:47 <cpressey> Of course, in this community, I would expect there are maybe more than the average number of people who consider it fun to debug code.

11:58:50 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122197&oldid=122170 * None1 * (+1017)

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11:59:53 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122198&oldid=122197 * None1 * (+16) /* Assemblers */

12:01:56 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122199&oldid=122198 * None1 * (+138) /* Code */

12:02:53 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122200&oldid=122199 * None1 * (+73) /* Infinite loop */

12:12:10 <cpressey> Defining esolangs is fun! Implementing esolangs is less fun.

12:12:56 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122201&oldid=122200 * None1 * (+2) /* Infinite loop */

12:13:21 <cpressey> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Unimplemented "The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 904 total."

12:15:34 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122202&oldid=122201 * None1 * (+0) /* Infinite loop */ This wont change the behavior of code but makes it make even more sense

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12:16:06 <cpressey52> Hi cpressey I'm cpressey52 I disagree with everything you've said

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12:29:18 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122203&oldid=122116 * LeonovK * (+271) /* Introductions */

12:29:38 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122204 * LeonovK * (+2508) Added a page for the new programming language Minicode.

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12:34:43 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122205&oldid=122146 * LeonovK * (+15) /* M */

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13:01:50 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122206&oldid=122202 * None1 * (+1) /* Integer representation */

13:03:28 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122207&oldid=122206 * None1 * (+3) /* Integer representation */

13:04:41 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122208&oldid=122207 * None1 * (+85) /* Assemblers */

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13:33:00 <esolangs> [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122209&oldid=121950 * None1 * (+5) /* brainfuck interpreter */

13:40:57 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Operation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122210&oldid=122155 * Kiken * (+679)

13:41:25 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Operation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122211&oldid=122210 * Kiken * (+0) /* Computational class */

13:42:12 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken/Construction Site/Descriptions/Operation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122212&oldid=122211 * Kiken * (+2) /* Computational class */

13:45:38 <esolangs> [[Operation]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122213 * Kiken * (+5430) Created page with "'''Operation''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] that relies on folder metadata, created by [[User:kiken|kiken]]. ==Overview== ===Memory=== Memory in Operation consists of a stack. Each item is a single byte. The memory starts with {{cd|00000000}} pushed onto t

13:46:33 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122214&oldid=122205 * Kiken * (+16) /* O */

13:47:32 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122215&oldid=122214 * Kiken * (+0) /* O */ wrong place

13:48:07 <esolangs> [[User:Kiken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122216&oldid=121668 * Kiken * (+15) /* Partially implemented */

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13:55:32 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122217&oldid=122215 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* O */ Alphabetise

13:56:12 <esolangs> [[Operation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122218&oldid=122213 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-13) /* Implementations */ Categories

13:56:33 <esolangs> [[Operation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122219&oldid=122218 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) /* Implementations */ Category

13:58:19 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122220&oldid=122204 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) Category

14:04:03 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122221&oldid=122208 * None1 * (+24) /* Examples */

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14:11:29 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122222&oldid=122220 * LeonovK * (+315) added a table with key information

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15:51:36 <cpressey> I remember seeing a long time ago a web page about a "CVS virus". A person wrote about a weird error they ran into using CVS that added junk to the repository somehow. And every CVS action they took to try to remove the junk re-triggered the error and just added more and more junk.

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19:24:03 <esolangs> [[Ratcl]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122223 * EvyLah * (+556) Created page with "''The real title is '''Random-ass Turing Complete Language''' or abbreviated to Ratcl. It is always capitalized like that.'' ==Code Execution== Commands in Ratcl all technically single characters, but they (mostly) use the characters to the left and right side as modifiers

19:26:57 <esolangs> [[Ratcl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122224&oldid=122223 * EvyLah * (-509) Replaced content with "#REDIRECT [Random-ass Turing Complete Language]"

19:27:30 <esolangs> [[Ratcl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122225&oldid=122224 * EvyLah * (+2) Redirected page to [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]]

19:29:09 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122226 * EvyLah * (+556) Created page with "''The real title is '''Random-ass Turing Complete Language''' or abbreviated to Ratcl. It is always capitalized like that.'' ==Code Execution== Commands in Ratcl all technically single characters, but they (mostly) use the characters to the le

19:30:01 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122227&oldid=122226 * EvyLah * (-2)

19:33:51 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122228&oldid=122227 * EvyLah * (+352)

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19:56:24 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122230&oldid=122229 * EvyLah * (+1169)

20:22:49 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122231&oldid=122222 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+7) Remove from featured languages, add category

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20:39:40 <esolangs> [[Inputbrain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122234&oldid=96394 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+82) Categories

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21:32:21 <zzo38> I made one of Moscow Puzzles with Hero Hearts. A binary counter can be made by Sliding Doors, Pullers, and Switches.

21:32:57 <zzo38> By add other objects too, such as Lasers, Atomizer, Creeper, Mirror, then they can be set up so that after exactly eight switches the creeper can go through the open door and touch a switch to close it, but otherwise the open door moves a puller that then other door will push when the binary counter is counting up, moving a mirror which deflects the laser beam and destroys the Exit.

21:34:46 <zzo38> But, if it is not counting up enough to eight, then the door is closed and the creeper will be blocked by the door and will reverse direction, and touch another laser which will destroy the exit from the other direction.

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01:18:37 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122236&oldid=122232 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+42) /* R */ add

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01:41:22 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122237&oldid=122221 * None1 * (+2414) /* Interpreters */

01:41:36 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122238&oldid=122237 * None1 * (+25) /* Examples */

05:35:45 <esolangs> [[Talk:Minsky Swap]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122239&oldid=97675 * Caenbe * (+346) Objection to TC proof

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15:58:35 <int-e> `w

15:58:37 <HackEso> insurance//Insurance is a closed loop.

16:32:21 <esolangs> [[Bogus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122240&oldid=112276 * Olus2000 * (+1145) Example of getting a constant with high accuracy

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18:36:46 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Smaybius * New user account

18:43:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122241&oldid=122203 * Smaybius * (+134) /* Introductions */

18:43:46 <esolangs> [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122242&oldid=122126 * Smaybius * (+2)

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21:33:18 <esolangs> [[Talk:Minsky Swap]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122243&oldid=122239 * Salpynx * (+1870) /* 2-reg MM simulation; TC proof */ Agree, there's a mistake in the proof :( (but this lang _should_ be TC)

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22:14:51 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122244&oldid=122231 * LeonovK * (+925) I expanded the description a little and added information from the last update

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23:05:22 <zzo38> Does Linux or BSD or other operating systems have a flag for "change file access time normally but do not write the changed time to disk unless it is necessary to write the block containing it to disk for some other reason"? Is such a flag useful anyways?

23:16:19 <b_jonas> zzo38: I don't think so. then you'd hvae to remember all the file access times in memory indefinitely until reboot just in case you ever need to write it in the future

23:19:04 <b_jonas> though there's a lazytime option that does some magic like that apparently

23:22:11 <zzo38> I should be more clear; I also mean to not keep them in memory indefinitely either unless they need to be kept in memory for other reasons, too.

23:33:02 <zzo38> O, I found about the "lazytime" and apparently it also affects mtime? Well, I don't want it to defer changes to the mtime, but only the atime. If mtime changes it should be written to disk normally.

23:34:10 <zzo38> (And, changes to ctime also should be written to disk normally)

23:36:40 <b_jonas> yeah

23:36:55 <b_jonas> so probably just either use noatime, or use relatime,nodiratime

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10:34:57 <esolangs> [[RIfP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122245&oldid=108817 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+1768) /* Computational class */

12:02:52 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122246&oldid=122238 * None1 * (+191) /* Interpreters */ Complete error reporting

12:10:56 <esolangs> [[RIfP]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122247&oldid=122245 * None1 * (+211) /* Examples */ Added truth machine example

12:11:40 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122248&oldid=121980 * None1 * (+201) /* Rhokell */

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12:24:21 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122249&oldid=122246 * None1 * (-44) /* Interpreters */ Remove print calls that only is for temporary debug usage and isn't supposed to exist in the interpreter

12:25:38 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122250&oldid=122249 * None1 * (+284) /* Examples */

12:50:01 <esolangs> [[SwitchCase]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122251 * None1 * (+2321) Create new language

12:51:48 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122252&oldid=122236 * None1 * (+17) /* S */

12:52:27 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122253&oldid=122190 * None1 * (+75) /* My Esolangs */

13:03:52 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122254&oldid=122250 * None1 * (-11) /* Interpreters */ Remove the "ha=x" line that only is for temporary debug usage and isn't supposed to exist in the interpreter

13:04:50 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122255&oldid=122254 * None1 * (+1104) /* Truth Machine */

13:06:34 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122256&oldid=122255 * None1 * (+796) /* Code */

13:07:36 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122257&oldid=122256 * None1 * (+185) /* Truth Machine */

13:08:06 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122258&oldid=122257 * None1 * (+45) /* Infinite loop */

13:15:47 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * None1 * uploaded "[[File:HashedPoem Logo.png]]": Logo for [[HashedPoem]] esolang.

13:16:54 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122260&oldid=122258 * None1 * (+49) Added logo

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13:20:19 <esolangs> [[SwitchCase]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122261&oldid=122251 * None1 * (+2) /* Computational class */

13:27:25 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122262&oldid=122260 * None1 * (+744) Prove Turing completeness

13:28:50 <esolangs> [[HashedPoem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122263&oldid=122262 * None1 * (-13) /* Computational class */

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17:53:30 <esolangs> [[Quests]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122264&oldid=108670 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+164) /* Commands */

17:54:09 <esolangs> [[Quests]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122265&oldid=122264 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+0) /* Examples */

19:31:28 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122266&oldid=122235 * EvyLah * (+228)

19:37:02 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122267&oldid=122266 * EvyLah * (+59)

19:39:20 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122268&oldid=122267 * EvyLah * (-98)

19:39:46 <esolangs> [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122269&oldid=122268 * EvyLah * (-302)

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20:59:19 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122270&oldid=121773 * Fazaazafg * (+1045) /* IO */

21:00:00 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122271&oldid=122270 * Fazaazafg * (-932)

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21:37:25 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122272&oldid=122271 * Fazaazafg * (+202) /* Notes */

21:43:09 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122273&oldid=122272 * Fazaazafg * (-28) /* Notes */

21:47:32 <esolangs> [[Pairpointing]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122274&oldid=122273 * Fazaazafg * (+157) /* Notes */

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22:53:16 <esolangs> [[Snigl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122275&oldid=73033 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+50) Categories

00:50:35 <esolangs> [[Quests]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122276&oldid=122265 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+64) Updated and rectified the Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF) description.

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08:03:13 <esolangs> [[User:Matthilde]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122277&oldid=90423 * Olus2000 * (-4) Updated links to git

08:34:47 <esolangs> [[UM8]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122278&oldid=122167 * Olus2000 * (-122) /* Hello World */ Even shorter

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11:18:03 <esolangs> [[Talk:Iavac]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122280 * PkmnQ * (+118) Created page with "Should this just redirect to [[Idvac]]? --~~~~"

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13:57:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122281&oldid=122128 * Xyzzy * (+80)

14:00:30 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122282&oldid=122281 * Xyzzy * (+35)

14:02:18 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122283&oldid=122282 * Xyzzy * (+152)

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15:39:34 <cpressey> "[S]tated purpose affects legal interpretation [...] The GPLs start with long preambles. Those preambles are not operative text in the strictest legal sense, but they are part of the documents, and can be cited to resolve vagueness and ambiguity, where it arises." <-- omg it's a form of "prompt engineering"

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16:10:56 <wib_jonas> cpressey: that's a white lie. that's because people won't read or won't obey "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed." even as they're trying to use a fricking copyright license, and they try to cut out parts of the license, even though they are clearly requried to

16:10:56 <wib_jonas> distribute the whole thing. So GNU put that white lie there in case they listen more to that than the straightforward "changing it is not allowed".

16:13:27 <cpressey> Well, the GPLs are just one example. Other licenses are preceded with a statement of purpose too. I don't doubt it affects legal interpretation, when it comes down to it. Whether the GPL's preamble affects legal interpretation in a way that helps GNU or not, I can't say.

16:15:04 <wib_jonas> redistributing the preamble and postamble is simply propaganda that GNU requires you to do if you use their licenses or copy their software, same as how the license for the GNU libc manual requires you to keep the "Free Software Needs Free Documentation" essay in the appendix

16:15:49 <wib_jonas> it's just that Debian counts the former one about the GPL still a free license, but the latter (or possibly the required front-cover text and back-covered text) too much and doesn't consider the manual free, which I think is ridiculous

16:18:35 <wib_jonas> "Other licenses are preceded with a statement of purpose too." => yes, the Creative Commons license comes with twice as much explanatory text as legally binding text. I don't think this is a problem. I wish people who write laws added explanatory text too rather than just vomit anything on paper, go on vacation, and hope the courts sort out what

16:18:35 <wib_jonas> their text is supposed to mean. we should just wall then into the parliament until they solve all the homework that the supreme court gives them and disambiguate their own laws, with bread and water only starting from the seventh day, and only at most two personal servants per congressman, like the papal elections do.

16:19:29 <wib_jonas> also, walling them in goes explicitly against the constitution's guarantees about freedom right now, so we can't do this without modifying the constitution first.

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16:34:41 <cpressey> I just want a functioning public domain that includes software. Maybe that can't happen because software is too special. I dunno.

16:37:17 <cpressey> If I write an essay, I can say, "OK, that's not a work of mine anymore. No one owns it anymore." Apparently it's too dangerous to allow that to happen with software.

16:39:54 <cpressey> The fact that there might be a patent hiding in it. The fact that it might be deemed a merchantable good that comes with an implicit warranty of fitness for a particular purpose. All these dangers, you see.

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18:17:22 <zzo38> I wanted a different license, which is effectively like public domain including free from patents, etc, that you are not required to give attribution or copyright notices or to anything else like that; however, anyone who distributes it must use the same license (implicitly or explicitly) or GPL3, AGPL3, CC-BY-SA 4.0 (if they are able to satisfy the terms of those licenses).

18:18:18 <zzo38> Furthermore, you are not to be sued for violation except for a counterclaim due to someone trying to sue you for violating their own copyright, patent, etc on this work.

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23:39:01 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122292&oldid=122283 * None1 * (+153) /* 0>0 */

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10:55:21 <esolangs> [[X strike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122298&oldid=120673 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+604) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the X strike programming language on GitHub and supplemented the category tag Implemented.

10:59:12 <esolangs> [[X strike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122299&oldid=122298 * Kaveh Yousefi * (-12) Rectified the Hello world, one-time cat program, and truth-machine, the second of which would not query for an input because of its cell being zero, while the latter repeatedly requested a number.

11:05:55 <esolangs> [[X strike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122300&oldid=122299 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+507) Supplemented an perpetually cycling cat program as an example and improved the code fragments' formatting.

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15:38:15 <cpressey> "This is your brain. This is your brain after thinking about about open-source software licensing"

15:39:32 <cpressey> The cultural reference there will likely be missed by anyone younger than me and/or not raised in North America.

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15:44:44 <fizzie> I'm pretty sure that's the sort of thing you pick up by osmosis by spending time on at least certain parts of the Internet. I know I did, without having been raised in North America.

15:45:00 <int-e> hmmmm omelette

15:45:33 <cpressey> Fair enough. Memes travel.

15:45:40 <fizzie> Where's the boundary between a frittata and an omelette, exactly? (There was one of the former at lunch today.)

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15:46:13 <fizzie> Wikipedia suggests "four key differences", guess it's that.

15:47:17 <wib_jonas> I didn't know about that one. Maybe I'm too young. An internet search suggests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Your_Brain_on_Drugs .

15:49:33 <int-e> I was able to fill in "on drugs" but I had no images to connect to that. Still don't since the wikipedia example is missing the non-drug counterpart.

15:50:32 <cpressey> For avoidance of doubt, non-drug brain = egg (in intact shell), on-drugs brain = egg frying in frying pan

15:50:56 <wib_jonas> cpressey: how about on-licenses brain?

15:51:53 <wib_jonas> before searching on the internet, I was guessing it was an advert for car insurance, or an insurance aggregator search service

15:53:32 <cpressey> Permission to use, break, hatch, and/or fry this egg for any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted.

15:54:28 <int-e> so generous

15:54:46 <int-e> maybe check it in a lab to make sure that it's not part of an alien invasion

15:54:51 <wib_jonas> you're on #esolangs, you already signed away your sanity, you're here to get your brain fried.

15:56:42 <int-e> The brain-themed meme I've seen most of the past year is this template (different text): https://uploads.dailydot.com/2024/01/Screenshot-2024-01-12-at-12.09.07-PM.png (sorry about the source)

15:57:20 <int-e> And there are way too many youtube videos titled "Foo did bar. This is what happend to their brain."

15:59:33 <int-e> cpressey: So you could say that the poster agrees that drugs are a mind-opening experience. :P

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18:35:34 <b_jonas_> `olist 1296

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21:23:47 <esolangs> [[Exclamation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122306&oldid=122305 * Infinitehexagon * (-630) Replaced content with "SCRAPPED"

21:24:10 <esolangs> [[New]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122307&oldid=121012 * Infinitehexagon * (-572) Replaced content with "SCRAPPED"

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03:45:04 <esolangs> [[Dongbei]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122310 * * (+426) Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''dongbei''' is a language created by [https://github.com/zhanyong-wan Zhanyong Wan] following [[wenyan]]. Its source code reflects the characteristics of Northeastern Mandarin, a branch of Mandarin Chinese native to some 120 million people. It is implemented in,

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11:38:40 <esolangs> [[Talk:OISC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122315&oldid=87921 * None1 * (+136) /* does an OISC have to be Turing complete? */ new section

11:41:54 <esolangs> [[Dongbei]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122316&oldid=122312 * None1 * (+82)

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12:37:17 <esolangs> [[Dongbei]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122320&oldid=122319 * None1 * (-25) /* See also */ Oh I thought thr github link is the interpreter

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19:48:54 <esolangs> [[EsoChan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122337&oldid=121563 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+50) Rectified the goto command invocations in the example programs to employ one-based line numbering, as suggested by another language of the author, and supplemented an apostille in the command table.

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20:20:52 <esolangs> [[ShitLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122339&oldid=93907 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+35) Distinguish confusion

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08:29:31 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122343&oldid=122333 * ZCX islptng * (+280) /* Introductions */

08:47:26 <esolangs> [[TripletNOR]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122344 * ZCX islptng * (+323) Created page with "This is an esolang created by islptng. Inspired by the game Turing Complete. It let us make computers only with NAND at first. According to De Morgan's laws, we can start with NOR, too. I haven't think about it completely.~~~~"

08:48:09 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122345&oldid=122341 * ZCX islptng * (+17) /* T */

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10:24:12 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122346&oldid=122343 * Restruct * (+162) added myself cause yes

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12:45:12 <esolangs> [[+-)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122348&oldid=122347 * None1 * (+0) /* Commands */

12:48:11 <esolangs> [[+-)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122349&oldid=122348 * None1 * (+142) /* [ and ] */

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17:00:11 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122351&oldid=122346 * Esolang * (+142) /* Introductions */

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21:06:34 <esolangs> [[Bracket]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122352 * PaxtonPenguin * (+984) Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=[}} Bracket is a programming language that only uses brackets {| class="wikitable" |+ [ |- ! Units !! How |- | [ || add one |- | ] || subtract one |- | [[ || output ascii |- | ]] || output number |- | [] || input |- | ( || start loop, stops wh

21:07:16 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122353&oldid=121869 * PaxtonPenguin * (+16)

21:07:39 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122354&oldid=122353 * PaxtonPenguin * (-7)

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22:20:47 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[CheB]] to [[Che]]: Fix title

22:20:58 <esolangs> [[Che]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122359&oldid=122357 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-28) Right title

22:21:25 <esolangs> [[Bracket]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122360&oldid=122352 * PaxtonPenguin * (+18)

22:22:36 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122361&oldid=122345 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+1) /* C */ Fix title

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02:31:00 <esolangs> [[+-)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122370&oldid=122349 * None1 * (-3) /* Commands */

02:47:51 <esolangs> [[+-)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122371&oldid=122370 * None1 * (+118) /* Commands */ Modify the esolang to make the proof right

02:51:57 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122372 * EvyLah * (+1442) Created page with "'''Brainfuck+2''' is exactly what it sounds: [[brainfuck]], but with 2 more commands. Those 2 make it easier to handle input and output when dealing with numbers. For more info about brainfuck, check out its wiki page. If an input operation receives nothing, the cel

02:53:54 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122373&oldid=122372 * EvyLah * (+7)

02:54:54 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122374&oldid=122373 * EvyLah * (+97)

03:01:36 <esolangs> [[+-)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122375&oldid=122371 * None1 * (+86) /* [ and ] */

03:20:59 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122376&oldid=122374 * EvyLah * (+952)

03:39:05 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122377&oldid=122376 * None1 * (+105)

03:39:20 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122378&oldid=122377 * None1 * (+0)

03:43:04 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122379&oldid=122378 * None1 * (+225) /* Programs */

03:44:07 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122380&oldid=121986 * None1 * (+219) /* Implementations */ Added [[Brainfuck+2]] implementation

03:52:21 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122381&oldid=122379 * None1 * (+1513) Added Python interpreter and implemented category tag

03:54:51 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122382&oldid=122381 * None1 * (+51) /* A+B Problem */

04:04:16 <esolangs> [[Brainf ck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122383&oldid=121993 * None1 * (-68446) /* Python interpreter */ Moving to external link because syntax highlighting in wiki produces long wikitext

05:15:00 <esolangs> [[Interpret Esolangs Online]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122384&oldid=121924 * None1 * (+18) /* Introduction */

05:15:52 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122385&oldid=122382 * None1 * (+2637) /* Implementations */ Added JavaScript interpreter

05:15:58 <esolangs> [[Talk:MCBlocks]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122386 * EvyLah * (+179) Created page with "I really want to try this out. is this an mc mod? if so, what forge/fabric and mc version is it on? ~~~~"

05:16:16 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122387&oldid=122331 * None1 * (+43) /* My Implementations */

05:22:26 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122388&oldid=122380 * None1 * (+12453) /* Java */ Added [[JSFuck]] implementation

05:23:16 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122389&oldid=122388 * None1 * (+92) /* JavaScript */

05:24:54 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122390&oldid=122389 * None1 * (+6409) /* JSFuck */

05:27:10 <esolangs> [[Interpret Esolangs Online]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122391&oldid=122384 * None1 * (+0) /* Introduction */

05:29:00 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122392&oldid=122385 * None1 * (+202)

05:52:17 <esolangs> [[TripletNOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122393&oldid=122369 * ZCX islptng * (-67)

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06:37:07 <esolangs> [[TripletNOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122396&oldid=122395 * ZCX islptng * (+216) /* Rules */

06:50:19 <esolangs> [[TripletNOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122397&oldid=122396 * ZCX islptng * (+49)

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11:44:05 <esolangs> [[Pico]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122398&oldid=121643 * Salpynx * (-2) Fix bug in spec (unset cells within loops), and prevent python `is not` warning

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13:20:44 <esolangs> [[Pico]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122399&oldid=122398 * Salpynx * (+1427) Fix bug on empty string input, add cat example. Have tested a converted bf self-interpreter, so the bugs are ironed out.

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14:00:06 <Esolang> hi

14:03:14 <esolangs> [[Pico]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122400&oldid=122399 * Salpynx * (+5104) /* Examples */

14:04:01 <Esolang> wait i can see the edits in real time here??? thats so cool

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15:56:32 <Esolang> hi you 2

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16:40:39 <Esolang> hi

16:42:47 <esolangs> [[GolfJoke]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122401&oldid=66134 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+62) Stub, categories

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18:26:53 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122404&oldid=122292 * PaxtonPenguin * (+14)

18:29:22 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Teso Studios * New user account

18:30:40 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122405&oldid=122351 * Teso Studios * (+121)

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18:31:39 <esolangs> [[User:Teso Studios]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122406 * Teso Studios * (+49) Created page with "My Name is Teso Studios And Welcome To My Account"

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18:35:58 <esolangs> [[User:00Her0]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122408&oldid=122407 * PaxtonPenguin * (+19) Undo revision 122407 by [[Special:Contributions/Teso Studios|Teso Studios]] ([[User talk:Teso Studios|talk]])

18:36:27 <esolangs> [[User:Teso Studios]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122409&oldid=122406 * PaxtonPenguin * (-21)

18:38:44 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122410&oldid=122354 * Teso Studios * (-721) Blanked the page

18:39:07 <esolangs> [[User:PaxtonPenguin]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122411&oldid=122410 * PaxtonPenguin * (+721) Undo revision 122410 by [[Special:Contributions/Teso Studios|Teso Studios]] ([[User talk:Teso Studios|talk]])

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20:51:04 <esolangs> [[EE]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122413&oldid=73048 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+49) Categories

20:55:23 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122414&oldid=122392 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+24) Category

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21:19:05 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122415&oldid=117931 * Aadenboy * (+310) add a thingy

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23:21:16 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122417&oldid=122416 * Aadenboy * (+1) /* Language Overview */ whoops wrong way around

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02:14:11 <zzo38> My opinion of the "disguise" in Magic: the Gathering is I would have made a bit differently: [1] Make "superward {2}" instead of "ward {2}" (superward is a nonstandard variant of ward). [2] If you cast a spell with disguise, you can declare it as morph or disguise; if you declare it as morph then it doesn't have "superward {2}" but now opponent's doesn't know whether it has morph or disguise.

02:17:58 <zzo38> Also, the release notes don't mention if a permanent other than a Case can be solved or if a permanent other than a creature can be suspected. I think this should be possible, although the abilities gained by being suspected are not meaningful for a non-creature permanent unless that permanent later becomes a creature (e.g. in case it is a Vehicle).

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02:19:54 <zzo38> Also, I think that the previous rule that casting a suspended card is mandatory, is better than being optional, in my opinion.

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02:53:37 <ais523> zzo38: I'm not sure why superward would need to exist separately from ward, but I agree that not being able to morph a disguise creature is a bit silly

02:54:18 <ais523> perhaps the best solution would be to give the old morphs ward 2 too, it would be unlikely to break them, but Wizards don't normally like to errata to that extent (Companion is a bit of a special case there)

02:56:13 <ais523> also, the release notes fail to mention megamorph; perhaps they forgot about it

02:56:50 <ais523> I assume that having megamorph is equivalent to having morph, + an ability "as this card is turned face up, put a +1/+1 counter on it", but they don't actually explain that

02:57:59 <ais523> fwiw, my reading of the rules is that a permanent can't become solved unless it's a case, but once it is solved, it remains solved even if it becomes a non-case

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04:29:18 <b_jonas> they did errata a bunch of cards for the 2010 rules changes, and even more got changes implicitly from the comp. rules changes. the most obvious was that if you have a creature like Mogg Fanatic or Benevolent Bodyguard then you can't deal damage in combat but also use its sac ability even if it would die from combat. this one was so important that it's the only place where the comp. rules explicitly

04:29:24 <b_jonas> says "This is a change from previous rules."

04:30:40 <b_jonas> but around the same time, the text of some cards got changed too, such as for cards with reach like Giant Spider

04:34:43 <b_jonas> there must be a white card like that that is more well-known than Benevolent Bodyguard by the way.

04:37:41 <b_jonas> I guess I'll go with non-white ones: Carrion Feeder and Wild Cantor

04:40:41 <b_jonas> that phrase "This is a change from previous rules." is still in the comp. rules 13 years later by the way

04:58:33 <esolangs> [[TripletNOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122418&oldid=122397 * ZCX islptng * (-31)

05:20:21 <b_jonas> ais has been following Magic for long enough that he must remember the 2010 rules changes

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07:28:36 <Sgeo> According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_nines_in_pi , Feynman may not have made the joke about that point. I am now unreasonably disappointed in the author of Cadaeic Cadenza for repeating the claim that it was Feynman

07:28:59 <Sgeo> (Ok, so not seriously disappointed. But I'm pretty sure that's where I first heard of it)

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07:40:11 <Sgeo> I'm a Cadaeic! I'm a real Cadaeic!

07:40:32 <Sgeo> (Those exclamations have inexplicably stayed in my brain for years)

08:35:27 <esolangs> [[Scratcholang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122419&oldid=120901 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (-72) /* Truth machine program */

08:36:17 <esolangs> [[Scratcholang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122420&oldid=122419 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (-54) /* Language Overview */

08:37:42 <esolangs> [[Scratcholang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122421&oldid=122420 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (+54) /* Language Overview */

08:51:16 <int-e> Sgeo: Attributing quotes to somebody famous instantly makes them more profound. - Mark Twain.

08:56:06 <int-e> Sgeo: This phenomenon will become so much worse with the wide-spread adaptation of LLMs. -- ChatGPT

08:57:37 <int-e> `"

08:57:40 <HackEso> 1/1:585) <Ngevd> Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge \ 416) <Sgeo> My memory passed <monqy> rest in peace sgeos memory

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14:26:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122422&oldid=122405 * AnotherUser05 * (+133) /* Introductions */

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14:33:10 <esolangs> [[User:User:AnotherUser05]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122423 * AnotherUser05 * (+62) Created page with "heya ==My Esolangs== * figuring out how to even make one lol"

14:33:59 <esolangs> [[User talk:User:AnotherUser05]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122424 * AnotherUser05 * (+8) Created page with "==talk=="

14:35:01 <esolangs> [[User:AnotherUser05]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122425 * AnotherUser05 * (+70) Created page with "heya!! ==my esolangs== * currently figuring out how to even make one"

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15:34:56 <esolangs> [[BrainTravel]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122426 * AnotherUser05 * (+537) Created page with "'''BrainTravel''' is basically [[Brainfuck]] but with alternate dimensions and time travel. Don't ask. {| class="wikitable" |+ |- ! Command !! Description |- | + || Example |- | - || Example |- | > || Example |- | < || Example |- | [ || Example |- | ] || Exam

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17:31:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Lynndotpy * New user account

17:36:27 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122428&oldid=122422 * Lynndotpy * (+347) lynndotpy introducing themself in the wiki

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17:50:55 <esolangs> [[BrainTravel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122434&oldid=122433 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+29) Categories

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17:52:08 <esolangs> [[BrainTravel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122436&oldid=122434 * AnotherUser05 * (+15)

18:04:04 <lynndotpy> Hi all! I have a question about the wiki that I don't think can be grokked through lurking moar. I've made an esolang, is it appropriate and welcome within the community for me to just appear out of the blue and make a wiki page for it? Or would that be too presumptuous about the significance and esoteric-ness of my language?

18:05:46 <ais523> lynndotpy: it's fine to just make a page out of nowhere

18:06:29 <b_jonas> lynndotpy: yes, you can just appear out of nowhere and add a page about the esolang onto the esowiki. the esowiki has lots of articles about non-significant languages. there's a mandatory spam filter step that the wiki ensures before you can add a page, but that's it.

18:06:40 <ais523> no matter how bad it is, it is unlikely to compete with some of the existing pages for the worst language ever

18:07:24 <ais523> the wiki was founded partly as a reaction to information about esolangs being deleted beause it was considered too unimportant/insignificant, so from day 1 the wiki has intentionally not had quality/importance standards for the articles, as long as they're ontopic

18:07:37 <ais523> and this has lead to a lot of terrible pages but also a lot of good ones

18:08:40 <b_jonas> I should at some point try to count how many times users have independently invented brainfuck but with just one command that serves as either left bracket or right bracket with no explanation of how you're supposed to use them for useful control flow.

18:09:26 <ais523> b_jonas: hmm, is BF TC with just right bracket (implying left brackets at the start of the program)?

18:10:21 <ais523> actually that language is close enough to brainpocalypse (not quite identical) that it almost certainly is

18:10:55 <b_jonas> ais523: you'll have to figure out something for initialization, because bf usually starts with all zeros on the tape so that would just skip any loop immediately

18:11:12 <ais523> b_jonas: program execution starts after the opening square brackets

18:11:28 <lynndotpy> I appreciate the context! I'll try to make my page good but I won't worry then about not being significant. (It's also not a brainfuck derivative!)

18:15:12 <b_jonas> I don't know. oerjan might now.

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19:04:42 <ais523> b_jonas: oh right, the "BF but brackets don't nest" languages probably come about as a consequence of people trying to write interpreters – getting the brackets to match correctly is the hardest part of interpreting BF

19:07:46 <b_jonas> ais523: do they? I thought they come about because more typical languages can be programmed without nested loops and that's what they're used to

19:08:51 <b_jonas> or it's like one step above all those languages posted that have no loops at all, like the deadfish variants

19:10:07 <b_jonas> but there seems to be some amount of variance

19:12:09 <ais523> hmm, I think most practical languages can't reasonably be programmed without nested control structures

19:12:23 <ais523> they're still TC, but the resulting code ends up doing things like simulating if statements with arithmetic

19:12:33 <ais523> so it's a hard-to-understand programming style

19:13:24 <b_jonas> ais523: well, it depends on how exactly the no nested loops work. if you can still nest conditionals into each other, but not loops, then it's not that bad. if you can't put a conditional inside a loop, which is more like brainfuck, then yes, that would be very unusable

19:14:38 <ais523> I guess it is easy for newer esoprogrammers to forget that [] isn't just BF's only while loop, it's also BF's only if statement

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22:24:00 <esolangs> [[User:Imakesi]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122445 * Imakesi * (+36) Created page with "==Imakesi== me ==I makes i== not me"

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22:30:09 <esolangs> [[Esolang:SemiScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122447 * Imakesi * (+98) SemiScript, cool

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10:26:53 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * None1 * moved [[Esolang:You can uck without a brainf]] to [[You can uck without a brainf]]: Please DON'T write you esolangs in the Esolang: namespace

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16:05:38 <ais523> <b_jonas> ais has been following Magic for long enough that he must remember the 2010 rules changes ← indeed, and I still sort-of dislike them

16:05:52 <ais523> there's a tradeoff between making the rules simple, and making the rules produce expected results

16:06:21 <ais523> the rules post-2010 produce the results that most players would expect from abilities used during combat, but use an incredible amount of complexity to accomplish that

16:07:00 <ais523> my current belief is that allowing double-blocking may have been a mistake – it creates a lot of rules complexity for not much gameplay gain

16:07:36 <ais523> if you remove double blocking then most of the complexity added in the 2010 rules change goes away

16:08:21 <ais523> (for a timeline perspective: at the point in time I was actively playing Magic, it was under the ruleset where combat damage went on the stack)

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17:10:57 <b_jonas> ais523: I don't know if double-blocking is a mistake, it's been present for long enough that I think it's one of those rules that give M:tG its unique character. the pre-2010 combat rules were certainly nice and easier to think about, the problem was mostly how they were phrased. they should have rephrased them such that instead of combat damage being an object on the stack, combat damage was one of

17:11:03 <b_jonas> those actions that happen at the start of a step, so they break the old combat damage step to two steps, one before the damage is resolved and one after. note that back then mana disappeared only between phases, not between steps, so breaking one step into two steps wouldn't be much of a rule change. (obviously the whole thing is doubled for first strike.)

17:14:35 <b_jonas> I'm not completely against the node damage order rules, but yes, the pre-2010 rules were seem simpler, but this might just be what I'm used to.

17:18:26 <b_jonas> plus it just seems like a change that came up too often in practical games. I wasn't playing with Mogg Fanatic, but I was playing against Mogg Fanatic a lot.

17:19:07 <b_jonas> and M:tG already had the tool to print a creature that they didn't want to work there: activated abilities that had "{T}, sacrifice this permanent" in their cost

17:19:33 <b_jonas> (yes, I know there's vigilance and Twiddle)

17:20:33 <b_jonas> yes, I know it's not the same, it means you can't sac the creature after it attacks (even for giving up the damage that it would deal)

17:21:03 <b_jonas> but it's a flavorful way to implement creatures like Benevolent Bodyguard that can choose to either fight or protect at the start of combat

17:22:09 <b_jonas> sure, Mogg Fanatic was in tenth edition, so it wouldn't just go away quickly in favor of newer cards

17:22:43 <b_jonas> but M:tG does generally try to just print new cards with new abilities instead of errataing the meaning of old ones.

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17:30:00 <b_jonas> of course the rules change isn't only about cards like Mogg Fanatic. another practical situation is if I attack with two 1/1 elf tokens, the opponent blocks with a 2/2 soldier, then I cast a Giant Growth, then by the old rules I'd lose one of my elves, whereas in the modern rules I get to keep both elves

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18:18:07 <zzo38> I think that combat damage on the stack was not as good as it is now; the alternative would be to have a "damage prevention step" like the older rules have, which might have been acceptable if they had a good way to do it (although the newer rules work differently in many ways that it doesn't fit as well)

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19:58:48 <ais523> zzo38: re things like the "damage prevention step", the Netrunner rules people worked out a way to allow people to activate abilities in the middle of the resolution of another ability

19:58:58 <ais523> meaning that Netrunner's regeneration-like abilities work quite intuitively

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20:00:18 <ais523> (the rules are: you can only activate an ability in the middle of another ability if it has an "[interrupt]" marker that gives you permission to do that, and it also has a requirement that specifies what the ability in question must do for the activation to be legal; and resolving abilities create windows in which you can activate relevant interruption abilities, which are resolved before the ability continues to resolve)

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20:02:59 <ais523> most of them prevent something happening, in which case they can only be activated during an ability that would cause that thing to happen

20:03:18 <b_jonas> ais523: Magic has that but only in vestiges.

20:03:29 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Rhystic Shield

20:03:32 <HackEso> Rhystic Shield \ 1W \ Instant \ Creatures you control get +0/+1 until end of turn. They get an additional +0/+2 until end of turn unless any player pays {2}. \ PR-C

20:03:59 <ais523> b_jonas: you can activate mana abilities during a resolving ability if that ability gives players the opportunity to pay mana, yes

20:04:08 <b_jonas> ^ when an ability says something like "unless any player pays {2}" then players are allowed to activate mana abilities only, right there during resolving that ability

20:04:21 <b_jonas> that, plus there's one more exceptional case

20:04:27 <b_jonas> but it's a rather crazy one

20:04:35 <ais523> Panglacial Wurm?

20:04:39 <ais523> `card-by-name Panglacial Wurm

20:04:40 <HackEso> Panglacial Wurm \ 5GG \ Creature -- Wurm \ 9/5 \ Trample \ While you're searching your library, you may cast Panglacial Wurm from your library. \ CSP-R

20:04:42 <b_jonas> yes

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20:05:25 <ais523> Yugioh has some cards that you can summon directly from your deck, if certain conditions are met

20:06:00 <ais523> (I think there's a rule that you have to shuffle your deck afterwards, even though it isn't explicitly stated on the card)

20:06:10 <b_jonas> the much more common case is that you can activate mana abilities during casting a spell, which seems kind of unnecessary, because you could almost always just activate those mana abilities before that, so this is probably just a convenience rule for Online

20:06:15 <ais523> https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Awakening_of_the_Possessed_-_Nefariouser_Archfiend is probably the most popular

20:06:43 <ais523> (incidentally, I am not convinced that "nefariouser" is a real word, it should be "more nefarious", but I suspect they ran out of space in the name box

20:06:44 <ais523> )

20:07:08 <ais523> b_jonas: so I found out fairly recently about the history of that rule

20:07:10 <b_jonas> eh, it's a fantasy card game, it's normal if it invents words for card games

20:07:29 <ais523> apparently in some early pro tour, one player was persistently tapping lands for spells after casting them, rather than before

20:07:33 <ais523> apparently out of habit

20:07:46 <zzo38> The mana step during casting a spell is sometimes relevant, even though usually it does not matter. The mana step is more relevant for costs of attacking and blocking, though.

20:07:54 <ais523> they received several warnings, and eventually ended up getting disqualified for breaking the same rule repeatedly, but by then it was the semifinals or possibly finals

20:08:00 <ais523> and this caused an actual riot

20:08:06 <ais523> because the other players thought the disqualification was unfair

20:08:16 <ais523> so, the rules were changed to allow tapping lands while casting a spell, rather than beforehnand

20:08:19 <b_jonas> sure, but you should just interpret that as a shortcut for tapping the lands first then casting the spell.

20:08:38 <ais523> I am not sure that shortcuts existed at the time; but yes, that would be a better fix

20:08:59 <ais523> as zzo38 says, there are some cases it matters, e.g. casting a spell with Improvise using Gold tokens (or Black Lotus)

20:09:11 <ais523> or, hmm, does black lotus tap?

20:09:25 <ais523> gold tokens don't, so you can tap them to pay 1 of the mana and sacrifice them to play another

20:09:36 <ais523> same interaction comes up with Skirk Prospector and convoke spells

20:10:08 <zzo38> Black Lotus does require tapping to be activated

20:10:18 <b_jonas> I know there are a few cases when it matters, and it's those cases why I'd prefer if activating mana abilities during casting weren't allowed

20:11:09 <ais523> it'd at least fix the selvala/panglacial wurm interaction

20:11:16 <ais523> which I'm not sure was ever satisfactorily resolved

20:11:35 <zzo38> Also, the mana step applies before the costs of the spell are paid (although after the spell enters the stack; which is sometimes what matters).

20:11:47 <ais523> (selvala has a mana ability that creates a random amount of mana and also draws cards – the issue is that you can try to use it to cast panglacial wurm and then discover you don't have enough mana)

20:11:49 <b_jonas> for ordinary cases when you're just casting a lightnign bolt and tapping your mountain during it's fine, and if the rule didn't exist you'd just do that as a shortcut

20:12:03 <b_jonas> and the complex cases just cause rule headaches and shouldn't be allowed

20:12:26 <ais523> although, the mana step being after the spell is moved to the stack at least avoids the situation where you draw the panglacial wurm you're trying to cast

20:12:58 <zzo38> I don't know how to solve the issue with Selvala either; possibly adding errata that requires priority to activate its ability. I have written some unofficial rules of Magic: the Gathering, but it does not solve that problem yet.

20:13:49 <ais523> I think the best fix is just to add the "activate this ability only any time you could cast an instant" restriction, like Lion's Eye Diamond has

20:13:54 <ais523> `card-by-name Lion's Eye Diamond

20:13:55 <HackEso> Lion's Eye Diamond \ 0 \ Artifact \ Discard your hand, Sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond: Add three mana of any one color. Activate this ability only any time you could cast an instant. \ MI-R, VMA-M

20:14:25 <b_jonas> ais523: wouldn't that just mostly fail, as in if you're trying to tap Selvala for mana while a spell is resolved then the cards aren't actually revealed until later, you fail to add any mana, players draw cards but can't look at them yet, then since you don't have enough mana the whole thing gets reverted but since you didn't reveal anything this causes no problems?

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20:15:03 <b_jonas> sure, making that not a mana ability would also make sense,

20:15:06 <ais523> b_jonas: the problem is that selvala generates mana based on which cards were drawn

20:15:15 <ais523> so you can't just not look at them

20:15:35 <ais523> although, I forgot that cards drawn during the resolution of a mana ability are drawn face down – that rule doesn't come up very often

20:16:03 <ais523> (technically the cards are drawn face down with selvala, but they were revealed earlier during the resolution of the same ability)

20:16:33 <zzo38> That restriction is what I had suggested, but I think that the words "activate this ability only any time you could cast an instant" is too long in my opinion; so on my own custom cards I used the much shorter phrase "requires priority", which has the same effect (and I added a rule which says that).

20:16:57 <b_jonas> ais523: I thought there was a rules patch or ruling about this for some other card, maybe Chandra Ablaze or something, and if you can't look at the cards then they won't match nonland so you don't get mana

20:17:12 <ais523> I think they should add "once per turn when" as a phrase that indicates a triggered ability (like "when", "whenever", and "at"), but the triggered ability triggers only once per turn if it uses that phrase

20:17:32 <ais523> abilities like that are being used increasingly often in Magic at the moment, but the current templating is both misleading and very wordy

20:17:41 <zzo38> The rule that cards drawn while a spell is in the process of being cast (rule 121.8; it isn't as general as you say but it should be), says that, and also says that card has no characteristics during that time.

20:18:05 <ais523> `card-by-name Selvala, Explorer Returned

20:18:06 <HackEso> Selvala, Explorer Returned \ 1GW \ Legendary Creature -- Elf Scout \ 2/4 \ Parley -- {T}: Each player reveals the top card of their library. For each nonland card revealed this way, add {G} and you gain 1 life. Then each player draws a card. \ CNS-R, C16-R, VMA-R

20:18:14 <ais523> b_jonas: the problem is that Selvala explicitly reveals the cards

20:18:21 <b_jonas> ais523: the rules don't specifically say this, but they're clearly written so that when abilities say "reveal" or "look at" or you draw cards or for other reasons could look at new cards, then you can't look at them while the game is in a state that can be rolled back. except for some cases when players leave the game.

20:18:30 <ais523> and checks the characteristics before they're drawn

20:18:33 <b_jonas> ais523: hmm, let me check the rules

20:19:00 <ais523> it would be hilarious if selvala revealed them face down during the casting of Panglacial Wurm – that would be one way to fix the interaction

20:19:44 <b_jonas> ais523: it's not just during the casting of Panglacial Wurm, it does that whenever you do that while paying for a spell or ability during casting it

20:19:50 <b_jonas> at least I think so, I'll check the rules

20:20:04 <b_jonas> so normally you just activate Selvala when you're not casting any spell

20:20:22 <b_jonas> 121.8

20:20:22 <zzo38> However, the interpretation of rule 121.8 is confusing; see: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.7 Judges seem to disagree about this puzzle.

20:22:24 <b_jonas> 121.8. If a spell or ability causes a card to be drawn while another spell is being cast, the drawn card is kept face down until that spell becomes cast […] or until the casting process is reversed […]. The same is true with relation to another ability being activated. If an effect allows or instructs a player to reveal the card as it’s being drawn, it’s revealed after the spell becomes cast or

20:22:30 <b_jonas> the ability becomes activated. While face down, the drawn card is considered to have no characteristics and can’t be used to pay any part of the cost of the spell or ability that would require the card to have specific characteristics.

20:22:43 <b_jonas> this pretty clearly applies to Selvala

20:23:33 <b_jonas> it's older than Selvala, it just didn't use to come up so often, because you needed multi-card interactions to get into really weird situations. Selvala does it all in one card.

20:24:28 <zzo38> Yes, it does clearly apply to Selvala.

20:24:39 <ais523> b_jonas: it doesn't apply to Selvala, it's specific to a) cards that are drawn, b) cards that are revealed as they are drwan

20:24:49 <ais523> Selvala explicitly reveals the card before it is drawn, rather than as or after

20:24:53 <b_jonas> hmm

20:24:53 <ais523> and thus the requirements of the rule are met

20:25:02 <b_jonas> so it applies only when a card is drawn! I see

20:25:25 <b_jonas> yeah, that's a problem. so that's why you're saying they should fix the rules for taht

20:26:57 <zzo38> Of course Selvala avoids the problems of the card being unknown, because they are revealed; however, it also says the cards are drawn afterward, and you still might not have enough mana by the time they are activated.

20:28:04 <zzo38> However, there is a ruling for Selvala to mention what happens in that case; the interaction with Panglacial Wurm is still unclear though, since you might not have had an opportunity to activate it otherwise.

20:28:56 <b_jonas> I don't understand, why is Selvala more of a problem with Panglacial Wurm than otherwise if you're trying to tap it for mana while paying to activate a spell or ability?

20:29:51 <ais523> b_jonas: hmm, maybe it isn't? there's just the separate problem of drawing cards while searching your library, before you shuffle

20:29:59 <zzo38> For one thing, effects that allow you to search your library will usually result in shuffling your library afterward, so the top card will be a different one

20:30:22 <ais523> that said, other games don't seem to have the trouble that Magic does with looking at cards without reordering them

20:31:02 <ais523> "look at the top three cards of your opponent's deck, then put them back in the same order" is a very common effect in Netrunner

20:31:31 <ais523> and some cards even trigger in response to the opponent looking at them for certain reasons, and require the opponent to reveal them when that happened (so that their owner knows that they triggered)

20:31:54 <ais523> it is difficult to cheat this without being caught, as the cards are likely to get drawn eventually

20:32:26 <ais523> and the "look at" is generally done by having their owner lift them up and show them, holding the card so that only their opponent can see them

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20:35:52 <b_jonas> ah, you mean drawing a card while you're searching the library. that's not that strange I think.

20:36:42 <zzo38> (Normally you cannot use mana abilities while searching your library.)

20:38:50 <b_jonas> zzo38: yes, so for just the one weird Wurm it is actually helpful that you can use mana abilities while searching your library

20:39:25 <ais523> is there any situation in Magic where you might end up searching your library unexpectedly?

20:40:16 <ais523> most times you'd search are as the consequence of an ability resolving, so if you know you're about to be given a search, and have a panglacial wurm you want to cast, you could just tap mana before the search happens

20:40:32 <ais523> I guess it's possible to not know whether or not there's a panglacial wurm in your deck (e.g. because your opponent is playing Pyxis of Pandemonium)

20:40:34 <b_jonas> it's probably rare

20:40:56 <ais523> incidentally, in Yugioh you can look at your own face-down banished cards, because you have a responsibility to know what's in your deck at all times

20:41:16 <ais523> and, e.g., not look at your deck if you're given the opportunity to search for a card that isn't in there

20:41:39 <ais523> (you can't fail to find in Yugioh – you aren't allowed to legally start a search unless there's an appropriate card to search for)

20:42:09 <ais523> (and the game is actually balanced around this, with many cards having the downside of having to search some terrible card out of your deck, so in order to play them you have to dilute the deck by adding the card in question)

20:44:39 <b_jonas> I'm not entirely sure, but I think even before Selvala you could have a case when you'd first be able to look at a card while you're tapping mana abilities while casting a spell. Say there's an Opalescence in play, a Telepathy, and you have a Humility in play. The Humility deactivates the ability of Telepathy, so you can't see opponent's hands. While trying to cast a creature, you tap Phyrexian Tower

20:44:45 <b_jonas> and sacrifice Humility for it (it's a creature because of Opalescence). Then the Telepathy should kick in.

20:46:32 <b_jonas> I wonder if you could make something like this from old cards where you also can't know in advance whether you will be able to finish casting the spell or have to revert it.

20:47:09 <ais523> I thought Telepathy didn't work in the middle of casting a spell, but I'm not sure

20:48:04 <b_jonas> ais523: 121.8 should suppress it, but we just found that it doesn't

20:48:08 <b_jonas> maybe there's some other rule?

20:48:29 <b_jonas> I also wonder if perhaps Telepathy doesn't gain the ability back until later

20:48:33 <b_jonas> but I think it gains it back immediately

20:48:45 <ais523> I vaguely remember watching games of Lantern Control on MTGO

20:49:07 <ais523> which should give an accurate representation of whether telepathy-like effects are on or not at various points in the game

20:49:11 <ais523> `card-by-name Lantern of Insight

20:49:12 <HackEso> Lantern of Insight \ 1 \ Artifact \ Players play with the top card of their libraries revealed. \ {T}, Sacrifice Lantern of Insight: Target player shuffles their library. \ 5DN-U

20:49:26 <ais523> oh wow, that's so much better than Telepathy in most respects

20:49:37 <ais523> artifacts are a bit easier to destroy than enchantments, but it's cheaper and has a bonus ability

20:49:48 <ais523> or, well, Telepathy is opponent's library only, right?

20:49:52 <ais523> `card-by-name Telepathy

20:49:53 <HackEso> Telepathy \ U \ Enchantment \ Your opponents play with their hands revealed. \ US-U, 7E-U, 8ED-U, 9ED-U, 10E-U, M10-U

20:49:58 <ais523> oh, hands, not library

20:50:37 <ais523> I still think Lantern is better, being able to see your own library is useful, and being able to see your opponent's top-of-library on an ongoing basis is usually better than being able to see their hand on an ongoing basis

20:51:12 <b_jonas> possible, Telepathy is just the one I was familiar with

20:52:01 <ais523> I have seen Telepathy because i actually own the card, somewhere

20:52:04 <ais523> it isn't very good

20:52:15 <ais523> Lantern is a little older and I don't own it, but it's been more competitively played

20:52:25 <b_jonas> hmm, let me check, I don't remember if I own Telepathy or not

20:52:31 <ais523> (there is some doubt as to whether Lantern Control was ever actually a *good* deck, but it had a run of popularity at one point)

20:53:29 <ais523> the idea is to play Lantern + lots of mill and shuffle effects, together with lockpieces that make many cards uncastable or otherwise useless, and ensure your opponent never draws a useful card for the rest of the game

20:57:56 <b_jonas> Air Bladder, Aquitect's Will, Cerulean Wisps, Coral Net, Cut the Earthly Bond, Diminish, Dream's Grip, Essence Flare, Flight, Index, Infiltrate, Intervene, Mental Note, Peek, Ponder, Preordain, Reach Throught Mists, Sea's Claim (9th Edition), Serum Visions, Shimmering Wings, Sigil of Sleep, Unsummon, Wind Zendikon, and then 2 cmc cards. No, I don't have Telepathy.

21:01:49 <b_jonas> I'm not follwing Magic much so I didn't even remember which box has the blue cards

21:02:26 <ais523> I've been keeping up to date with Legacy, but not really the other formats

21:02:44 <b_jonas> I guess I could label the boxes from the outside, but while I was buying M:tG cards I changed what's in what box multiple times

21:02:56 <ais523> Standard was badly broken recently (and might still be but I'm not sure), Modern has been broken for a while, and I haven't been following Pioneer very much

21:03:28 <ais523> and Vintage is not really any worse than it's always been, but continues to not have very much variety

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21:12:05 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122558&oldid=122557 * Imakesi * (+371)

21:12:28 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122559&oldid=122558 * Imakesi * (-2)

21:12:30 <ais523> hmm, website I just discovered, which seems relevant to this channel: https://bbchallenge.org/story

21:12:40 <esolangs> [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122560&oldid=122559 * Imakesi * (-2)

21:12:58 <ais523> they are trying to decide halting for all 2-symbol 5-state Turing machines

21:13:39 <ais523> (starting from a blank tape)

21:16:59 <b_jonas> that is relevant to the channel, yes

21:21:45 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Imakesi * moved [[]] to [[Esolang:Brainthon]]: Emojis.

21:23:02 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122563&oldid=122508 * Imakesi * (+34) /* General languages */

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21:33:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * EvyLah * uploaded "[[File:Gdlang.jpeg]]": the real title

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21:35:46 <esolangs> [[SHITS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122570&oldid=121603 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+1171) Links, interpreter, categories

21:39:44 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122571&oldid=122500 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) /* S */ add

21:42:12 <esolangs> [[GDLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122572&oldid=122564 * EvyLah * (+489)

21:44:57 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * EvyLah * uploaded "[[File:Program bounds.jpeg]]": shows the program bounds of gdlang

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21:58:55 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * EvyLah * uploaded "[[File:Gdarrow1603.png]]": arrow for gdlang

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22:01:55 <esolangs> [[GDLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122578&oldid=122577 * EvyLah * (-5)

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23:55:31 <esolangs> [[SemiScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122581&oldid=122555 * Imakesi * (-62)

00:36:18 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Autoconfirmed users]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122582&oldid=122579 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-218) Revert spam, remove signature, misc.

00:38:46 <esolangs> [[Ice box]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122583&oldid=122507 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+85) Categories

00:40:59 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122584&oldid=122571 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+14) /* I */ add

00:46:05 <esolangs> [[Ice box]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122585&oldid=122583 * AnotherUser05 * (+427)

00:47:45 <esolangs> [[User:AnotherUser05]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122586&oldid=122440 * AnotherUser05 * (+30) /* my esolangs */

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02:11:21 <Sgeo> If a hard drive won't be read by USB adapter + ddrescue, is there still a way to recover it at home? Like, opening it up and putting the platter in some special reader or something?

02:16:27 <JAA> Depending on the failure, replacing the logic board could work, but that's risky. Opening up the actual chassis shouldn't happen outside a clean room.

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03:02:36 <Sgeo> I have no idea what the failure is. One was from 2010, and died after a fall. The other is from 1997. Could just be old. Was making some loud sounds

03:03:04 <JAA> Loud sounds are almost never good.

03:43:30 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:brainfuck]]": Author request: blanked by author shortly after creation

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05:16:32 <esolangs> [[SemiScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122588&oldid=122581 * Imakesi * (+107)

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06:04:55 <esolangs> [[SemiScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122591&oldid=122590 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+78) Categories

06:10:38 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Brainthon]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122592&oldid=122561 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+131) Categories

06:11:17 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[Esolang:Brainthon]] to [[Brainthon]]: Move to main namespace

06:11:49 <esolangs> [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122595&oldid=122562 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-8) Use main namespace

06:12:43 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122596&oldid=122563 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-18) /* General languages */ Alphabetise, fix namespace

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06:15:38 <esolangs> [[BOREDOM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122598&oldid=69269 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+61) Categories

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10:12:09 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122600&oldid=122599 * None1 * (+1)

10:16:56 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122601&oldid=122600 * None1 * (-5)

10:24:02 <esolangs> [[Main Page]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122602&oldid=117267 * None1 * (+140) I'n annoyed of this

10:27:39 <esolangs> [[Main Page]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122603&oldid=122602 * None1 * (+3)

10:43:34 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122604&oldid=120600 * None1 * (+4)

10:45:15 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Give You Up]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122605&oldid=120709 * None1 * (+128)

10:45:33 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Give You Up]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122606&oldid=122605 * None1 * (+6)

10:51:17 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122607&oldid=122604 * None1 * (+254) /* Example Programs */

10:54:09 <esolangs> [[Talk:Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122608&oldid=120627 * None1 * (+172)

10:54:19 <esolangs> [[Talk:Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122609&oldid=122608 * None1 * (+0)

10:55:43 <esolangs> [[File talk:Program bounds.jpeg]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122610 * None1 * (+114) Created page with "Are you sure this is public domain? --~~~~"

11:23:31 <int-e> ah yes another github pet peeve... so you hide comments in the middle of a ticket when there are many of them. You show both the first comments and the last comments. Cool. You have a "load more..." clicky thing that... only loads comments from the top? WHY?!

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12:30:12 <esolangs> [[ObjLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122611 * None1 * (+3849) Created page with "'''ObjLang''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], its programs are marshalled [[Python]] nested lists and dictionaries. ==Syntax== A program is a marshalled dictionary with string as keys and lists as values, a key is a command, a value is a list of arguments ==Type

12:34:04 <esolangs> [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122612&oldid=122611 * None1 * (+113) /* Commands */

12:35:16 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122613&oldid=122584 * None1 * (+14) /* O */

12:36:04 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122614&oldid=122506 * None1 * (+77) /* My Esolangs */

12:37:29 <esolangs> [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122615&oldid=122612 * None1 * (+47) /* Fibonacci (via recursion) */

12:38:32 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122616&oldid=122501 * None1 * (+106) /* Obfuscated */

12:39:16 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122617&oldid=122552 * None1 * (+284) /* Obfuscated */

12:39:48 <esolangs> [[A+B Problem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122618&oldid=122502 * None1 * (+148) /* JavaScript */

13:22:35 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Fuck You Up/Rickroll]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122619 * None1 * (+6544) Created page with ":{{Back|Never Gonna Fuck You Up}} The [[Never Gonna Give You Up]] program in [[Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] is so long (about 0.319 megabytes) that it is unsuitable to put it on the wiki. Luckily, the powerful compression method LZMA compressed it t

13:23:38 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Fuck You Up]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122620&oldid=122607 * None1 * (+72) /* Example Programs */

13:24:10 <esolangs> [[Never Gonna Give You Up]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122621&oldid=122606 * None1 * (+74) /* Brainfuck */

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14:54:23 <esolangs> [[Ice box]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122622&oldid=122585 * AnotherUser05 * (-33) /* Number Guessing Game */

15:24:51 <esolangs> [[HuePrism]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122623 * Restruct * (+491) MAKE THE PAGE

15:38:59 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Selaere * New user account

15:42:16 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122624&oldid=122444 * Selaere * (+155) add introduction

15:57:36 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Imakesi * uploaded "[[File:Banner of SemiScript.png]]"

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17:33:54 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122627&oldid=122626 * Aadenboy * (-1994) doesn't work no mo!

17:35:56 <esolangs> [[User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122628&oldid=121040 * Aadenboy * (-62) website was retired

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18:36:06 <esolangs> [[Ueck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122629&oldid=122014 * BoundedBeans * (-1) Fixed grammar mistake

18:45:44 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Esolang:Brainthon]]": redirect left behind after page was moved to the correct namespace

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20:40:00 <zzo38> About GitHub, I wrote my own script to substitute for some of the scripts on GitHub. However, it does not currently apply to comments in a ticket, but if other people are able to write the missing parts then it might be done.

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07:38:04 <esolangs> [[HuePrism]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122637&oldid=122623 * Restruct * (-19)

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10:42:39 <esolangs> [[User:Yetyetty1234567890]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122641&oldid=122633 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+102)

11:00:36 <esolangs> [[200]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122642 * None1 * (+925) Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1}} It is his 200th esolang, and it is again, like his 100th esolang [[100BF]], a [[brainfuck]] equivalent. ==Commands== 200 BF 202 + 020 - 220 , 022 . 222 [ 000 ] 200 > 002 < ==Examples== ===[[Hello, World!]]=== <pre class="rectwrap">202202202202202

11:01:01 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122643&oldid=122634 * None1 * (+10) /* Non-alphabetic */

11:01:57 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122644&oldid=122614 * None1 * (+47) /* My Esolangs */

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11:18:31 <esolangs> [[Talk:Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122646&oldid=94449 * None1 * (+152)

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13:57:55 <esolangs> [[Minicode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122648&oldid=122244 * LeonovK * (+4068) updated the page in accordance with the latest language updates

14:00:56 <esolangs> [[Befunge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122649&oldid=122242 * Chris Pressey * (+10) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

14:03:03 <esolangs> [[Braktif]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122650&oldid=13153 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

14:04:16 <esolangs> [[Beturing]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122651&oldid=53678 * Chris Pressey * (-7) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

14:04:56 <esolangs> [[Burro]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122652&oldid=76000 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

14:15:40 <esolangs> [[Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122653&oldid=103156 * PkmnQ * (-368) /* Hello, world! */ Fix and golf program

14:19:20 <esolangs> [[Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122654&oldid=122653 * PkmnQ * (-99) /* Constants */ Improve constants

14:27:51 <esolangs> [[Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122655&oldid=122654 * PkmnQ * (+314) /* Variables */ explain how __builtins__ can actually going to be used

14:51:25 <esolangs> [[User talk:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122656&oldid=118216 * PkmnQ * (+160) /* Quines */ new section

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18:26:17 <esolangs> [[Cabra]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122658&oldid=88008 * Chris Pressey * (-7) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

18:27:13 <esolangs> [[Carriage]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122659&oldid=97003 * Chris Pressey * (+93) Add link to external resource at author's web site

18:28:04 <esolangs> [[Cfluviurrh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122660&oldid=36990 * Chris Pressey * (-7) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

18:31:01 <esolangs> [[Emmental]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122661&oldid=97040 * Chris Pressey * (-1) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

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19:44:02 <esolangs> [[.exe]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122662 * EvyLah * (+970) Created page with "'''.exe''' is a programming language that takes a .exe file as its source code. Lol, jokes on you, it just runs the .exe file. ==Examples== ===[[Hello, World!]]=== A Hello, World! program can be written with anything that can compile to a .exe file. ====[[Python]]==== p

19:46:48 <esolangs> [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122663&oldid=122662 * EvyLah * (+182)

19:51:52 <esolangs> [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122664&oldid=122663 * EvyLah * (+416)

19:52:38 <esolangs> [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122665&oldid=122664 * EvyLah * (+82)

19:53:34 <esolangs> [[Equipage]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122666&oldid=55816 * Chris Pressey * (-16) /* External resources */ Use catseye macro to link to project's node on catseye.tc

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20:01:42 <esolangs> [[Flobnar]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122670 * Chris Pressey * (+483) A mere 13 years after its creation, create an article for Flobnar on the esolangs wiki.

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20:05:39 <esolangs> [[Gemooy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122673&oldid=72744 * Chris Pressey * (+37) Excessively minor tidying of links

20:09:25 <esolangs> [[GraNoLa/M]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122674&oldid=13786 * Chris Pressey * (+76) Update some links

20:10:29 <esolangs> [[HUNTER]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122675&oldid=73500 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

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20:12:37 <esolangs> [[Hev]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122677&oldid=72867 * Chris Pressey * (-16) Use catseye macro to link to project's node on catseye.tc

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20:15:13 <esolangs> [[Squishy2K]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122679&oldid=95908 * Chris Pressey * (-32) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

20:17:12 <esolangs> [[Shelta]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122680&oldid=91443 * Chris Pressey * (+5) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

20:18:57 <esolangs> [[Troupe]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122681&oldid=33130 * Chris Pressey * (+5) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

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20:30:16 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122683&oldid=122678 * Aadenboy * (+25) /* 99 bottles of beer song */ adjusted to newer printing

20:38:02 <esolangs> [[Yoob]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122684&oldid=118423 * Chris Pressey * (-84) Update links, and reflect the fact this is a dead project

20:40:39 <esolangs> [[Jolverine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122685&oldid=40974 * Chris Pressey * (+77) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

20:46:28 <esolangs> [[Maentwrog]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122686&oldid=116422 * Chris Pressey * (-97) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

21:37:30 <esolangs> [[Funge-98]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122687&oldid=120148 * Chris Pressey * (-50) (a) There is no reference implementation of "Funge-98" (b) That link was broken

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22:17:43 <esolangs> [[Funge-98]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122688&oldid=122687 * Chris Pressey * (+224) Rewrite paragraph about FBBI.

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22:20:23 <esolangs> [[Funge-98]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122689&oldid=122688 * Chris Pressey * (+20) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

22:24:19 <esolangs> [[Funge-98]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122690&oldid=122689 * Chris Pressey * (+38) For something to be "probably the reference C implementation" is not very meaningful. Trying to improve this statement.

22:26:56 <esolangs> [[Tandem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122691&oldid=90798 * Chris Pressey * (+69) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things. Also update category.

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01:14:21 <esolangs> [[.exe]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122692&oldid=122682 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+71) Categories

01:16:54 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122693&oldid=122596 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+11) /* General languages */ add

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05:30:48 <esolangs> [[Beatnik]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122694&oldid=118780 * Chris Pressey * (-3) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

06:01:44 <esolangs> [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122695&oldid=122692 * EvyLah * (+4)

06:03:47 <esolangs> [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122696&oldid=122695 * EvyLah * (+88)

06:12:00 <esolangs> [[Illgola-2]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122697 * Chris Pressey * (+20) Redirected page to [[ILLGOL]]

06:12:53 <esolangs> [[Illberon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122698 * Chris Pressey * (+20) Redirected page to [[ILLGOL]]

06:15:18 <esolangs> [[ILLGOL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122699&oldid=91447 * Chris Pressey * (+5) Be more specific about what is meant by "cartoon" here. Also, update links.

06:17:37 <esolangs> [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122700&oldid=121463 * EvyLah * (+28)

06:26:38 <esolangs> [[Larabee]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122701 * Chris Pressey * (+684) Created page with "{{stub}} '''Larabee''' is an assembly-like programming language designed by [[Chris Pressey]] in 2008 that borrows the notion of branch prediction from computer architecture: whenever a branch instruction is executed, the branch that is taken is determined partly

06:28:15 <esolangs> [[Mascarpone]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122702&oldid=51966 * Chris Pressey * (+78) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

06:32:11 <esolangs> [[Muriel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122703&oldid=98068 * Chris Pressey * (+9) Update link

06:36:00 <esolangs> [[ZOWIE]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122704&oldid=100650 * Chris Pressey * (+0) Update links.

07:09:27 <esolangs> [[Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122705&oldid=108188 * Hppavilion1 * (+43) archive.org link

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09:38:43 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122706&oldid=122643 * Restruct * (+15) added my language!!

09:50:06 <esolangs> [['N-DCNC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122707 * Chris Pressey * (+632) Create article for 'N-DCNC.

09:51:07 <esolangs> [['N-DCNC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122708&oldid=122707 * Chris Pressey * (+9)

09:51:54 <esolangs> [[Esoteric Awards]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122709&oldid=68921 * Chris Pressey * (+14) Add 'N-DCNC to list of 2001 entries.

09:52:55 <esolangs> [['N-DCNC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122710&oldid=122708 * Chris Pressey * (+77) Clarify why an implementation in Befunge was attempted

09:53:23 <esolangs> [['N-DCNC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122711&oldid=122710 * Chris Pressey * (-1) Remove bogon

09:55:51 <esolangs> [[Nhohnhehr]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122712&oldid=85945 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

09:57:17 <esolangs> [[Oxcart]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122713&oldid=71441 * Chris Pressey * (-13) Use catseye macro to link to project's node on catseye.tc

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10:01:39 <esolangs> [[Quylthulg]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122714&oldid=14215 * Chris Pressey * (+71) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

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10:11:24 <esolangs> [[RUBE]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122716&oldid=49828 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

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10:13:54 <esolangs> [[SICKBAY]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122717&oldid=90369 * Chris Pressey * (+83) Update links; GitHub is no longer a recommended host for Cat's Eye Technologies things

10:18:58 <esolangs> [[Ypsilax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122718&oldid=30452 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

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10:26:04 <esolangs> [[Xigxag]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122719&oldid=10198 * Chris Pressey * (-4) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

10:29:14 <esolangs> [[Wunnel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122720&oldid=34693 * Chris Pressey * (+168) + External resources

10:35:10 <esolangs> [[SMETANA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122721&oldid=92334 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

10:37:31 <esolangs> [[SMITH]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122722&oldid=40429 * Chris Pressey * (-5) The /projects/ URLs at catseye.tc are deprecated, switch to /node/

11:42:12 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122723&oldid=122706 * Chris Pressey * (+42) Add entries for recently added language articles 'N-DCNC, Flobnar, and Larabee.

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13:15:13 <esolangs> [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122724&oldid=122640 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+313) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */

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13:38:32 <esolangs> [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122725&oldid=122724 * PkmnQ * (+283) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */

13:53:43 <esolangs> [[Sally]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122726&oldid=79302 * Chris Pressey * (+558) More details about this language that I am not sure is an esolang or not.

13:54:13 <esolangs> [[Sally]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122727&oldid=122726 * Chris Pressey * (+23) Formatting.

13:55:25 <esolangs> [[Polish notation]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122728 * Chris Pressey * (+29) Redirected page to [[Prefix notation]]

13:55:51 <esolangs> [[Reverse Polish notation]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122729 * Chris Pressey * (+30) Redirected page to [[Postfix notation]]

14:18:23 <esolangs> [[X strike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122730&oldid=122308 * Infinitehexagon * (+26)

14:19:08 <esolangs> [[X strike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122731&oldid=122730 * Infinitehexagon * (+1)

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14:22:43 <esolangs> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122732&oldid=122332 * Infinitehexagon * (+41)

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14:28:18 <esolangs> [[Minreg the Cat]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122733 * Pro465 * (+2467) create new esolang

14:28:59 <esolangs> [[Minreg the Cat/minreg.rs]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122734 * Pro465 * (+3532) share rust impl

14:30:41 <esolangs> [[Minreg the Cat/minreg.rs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122735&oldid=122734 * Pro465 * (+25) add back link

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15:14:34 <esolangs> [[Mox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122736 * Infinitehexagon * (+989) Created page with "'''Mox''' is another cell-based esolang by [[User:Infinitehexagon]] with a short amount of instructions. Mox is made out of the letters in ther title plus a few extra instructions too. Mox is also a derivative of [[X strike]]. [[Category:Languages]][[Category:2024]][

15:23:23 <esolangs> [[Minreg the Cat]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122737&oldid=122733 * Restruct * (-4) better

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15:53:40 <esolangs> [[IBSA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122738&oldid=120358 * Simple9371 * (+2)

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15:54:30 <esolangs> [[IBSA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122739&oldid=122738 * Simple9371 * (+4)

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16:15:20 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * SysDataSoft * New user account

16:19:21 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122740&oldid=122624 * SysDataSoft * (+153) /* Introductions */

16:19:53 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122741&oldid=122740 * SysDataSoft * (+1) /* Introductions */

16:20:37 <esolangs> [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122742&oldid=110414 * SysDataSoft * (+540) /* My app! */ new section

16:21:05 <esolangs> [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122743&oldid=122742 * SysDataSoft * (+557) /* My app! */ new section

16:22:00 <esolangs> [[IBSA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122744&oldid=122739 * Simple9371 * (-30) /* A Simple Extension */ Updated link for Prototype-based

16:22:05 <esolangs> [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122745&oldid=122743 * SysDataSoft * (-1097) remove my comments

16:23:25 <esolangs> [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122746&oldid=122745 * SysDataSoft * (+547) /* My app */ new section

16:23:50 <esolangs> [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122747&oldid=122746 * SysDataSoft * (+4) /* My app */

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16:30:43 <ais523> oh, I was just about to talk to cpressey about the possible copyvio on https://esolangs.org/wiki/Markov_algorithm

16:30:55 <ais523> (cpressey reported it, rather than perpetrating it)

16:32:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Markov algorithm]]": Copyright violation: most/almost all of the page was plagiarised from Wikipedia; this page can be recreated but needs to be rewritten from scratch

16:32:52 <esolangs> [[User:Infinitehexagon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122748&oldid=120851 * Infinitehexagon * (+12)

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16:35:15 <esolangs> [[Talk:Markov algorithm]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122749&oldid=121866 * Ais523 * (+582) /* Article likely to have been plagiarised from Wikipedia */ I agree

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16:38:19 <esolangs> [[Talk:Alternating 1-based Minsky machine]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122750 * Ais523 * (+577) is there any observable difference between 0-based and 1-based Minsky machines?

16:38:53 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122751&oldid=122736 * Infinitehexagon * (+0) /* Addition program(?) */

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16:41:46 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122752&oldid=122751 * Infinitehexagon * (+38)

16:42:24 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122753&oldid=122752 * Infinitehexagon * (+0)

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16:46:14 <esolangs> [[Talk:Strelnokoff]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122754 * Ais523 * (+731) an alternative approach to proving this TC

16:51:34 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122755&oldid=122753 * Infinitehexagon * (+84)

17:05:26 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122756&oldid=122755 * Infinitehexagon * (+67) /* Instructions */

17:07:29 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122757&oldid=122756 * Infinitehexagon * (+4)

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17:19:14 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122758&oldid=122757 * Infinitehexagon * (+138)

17:19:25 <esolangs> [[Mox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122759&oldid=122758 * Infinitehexagon * (-6) /* Hello world program (WIP) */

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17:57:37 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122760&oldid=122723 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+10) /* M */ add

17:59:04 <esolangs> [[UT19]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122761&oldid=120576 * Ais523 * (+1) /* Counters */ fix markup

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18:55:23 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122762&oldid=122683 * Aadenboy * (+2) fixed

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19:43:48 <esolangs> [[User:Hakerh400]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122763&oldid=121343 * Hakerh400 * (-11)

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20:53:10 <esolangs> [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122764&oldid=122725 * Salpynx * (+1747) /* response to your claim is false */ Attempt to clear up what seems like a misunderstanding about TCness

22:53:59 <esolangs> [[!or]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122765&oldid=103174 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) Category

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