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00:10:18 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:10:36 <HackEgo> for further details//who knows
00:10:42 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:10:44 <HackEgo> pikachu//Pikachu is a universal quantifier for Chu spaces.
00:10:53 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:10:54 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:10:54 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:11:02 <HackEgo> egobot//EgoBot is my arch-nemesis.
00:11:03 <HackEgo> dnm//dnm does not mind.
00:11:03 <HackEgo> ngram model//An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state
00:12:39 <oerjan> `slwd ngram model//s/$/./
00:12:44 <HackEgo> wisdom/ngram model//An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state.
00:16:37 <shachaf> Isn't it convenient how sled prints out the new contents?
00:17:05 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:17:07 <HackEgo> drone sex//Drone sex has never been observed in the wild; in fact it's rare to see drones in their natural habitat because they are extremely shy. Experiments with drones in captivity have only resulted in broken drones, and a rotor stuck in the ceiling. We are still looking for a biological explanation for the ever increasing drone population.
00:17:25 <shachaf> `` rgrep -P '[^\.]$' wisdom
00:17:36 <HackEgo> wisdom/6 random numbers:4 8 15 16 23 42 \ wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯:¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ wisdom/soup:What soup, Doc? \ wisdom/haskell:Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' \ wisdom/french:Le français n'est pas le démon, visitez les Coupeurs. Ne pas couvrir. Meilleur avant! \ wisd
00:18:05 <shachaf> `1 rgrep -P '[^\.?!\d]$' wisdom
00:18:08 <HackEgo> 1/78:wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯:¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ wisdom/haskell:Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' \ wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his min
00:18:24 <shachaf> `spam
00:18:25 <HackEgo> 2/78:d, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/scotland:<Phantom_Hoover> it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes \ wisdom/#programmin
00:18:55 <shachaf> `spam maybe just a few more
00:18:56 <HackEgo> 3/78:g:No such channel. See `? #esoteric \ wisdom/mroman_:mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW) \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal. \ wisdom/guestbot:guestbot is n
00:19:40 <FireFly> `cat bin/spam
00:19:42 <HackEgo> line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline
00:22:01 <shachaf> `slwd hydrogen//s#\s+##
00:22:03 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
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00:24:22 <oerjan> shachaf: yes
00:26:08 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s#\s+##
00:26:10 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:26:36 <shachaf> `` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:26:37 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what sta
00:27:03 <oerjan> wat
00:27:13 <shachaf> `mkx bin/cwlprits//culprits "wisdom/$1"
00:27:17 <HackEgo> bin/cwlprits
00:27:23 <shachaf> `cwlprits elendil
00:27:33 <oerjan> do you really have to ask
00:27:33 <HackEgo> b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas
00:28:06 <oerjan> oh wait
00:28:29 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s#\s+$##
00:28:31 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:28:39 <oerjan> `slwd hydrogen//s#\s+$##
00:28:40 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
00:29:04 <oerjan> `` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:29:07 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil:Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron. \ wisdom/hydrogen:Hydrogen is what sta
00:29:14 <oerjan> WTF IS HAPPENING
00:29:27 <oerjan> i suppose there's something wrong about the regexp
00:29:36 <shachaf> Oh, I bet it's because it's sed.
00:29:49 <oerjan> `slwd hydrogen//s#\s\+$##
00:29:51 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
00:29:59 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s#\s\+$##
00:30:03 <shachaf> Right.
00:30:04 <oerjan> `` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:30:04 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:30:05 <shachaf> Now I remember.
00:30:06 <HackEgo> wisdom/math:Math class is tough! \ wisdom/utumno:Utumno is Morgoth's first dungeon. It is where he was defeated, and the Silmarils temporarily reclaimed from him. \ wisdom/wealhtheow:Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. \ wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes
00:30:16 <shachaf> oerjan: also fix the double space in elendil twh
00:30:31 <shachaf> `cwlprits math
00:30:36 <HackEgo> b_jonas
00:30:48 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s#\s\+# #
00:30:49 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:30:53 <oerjan> wat
00:31:22 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s# \+# #
00:31:24 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:31:27 <oerjan> nope
00:31:34 <shachaf> oerjan: 1 is 1 or more hth
00:31:43 <oerjan> `slwd elendil//s# \+# #g
00:31:45 <HackEgo> wisdom/elendil//Elendil decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but then he changed his mind, saved his family only and founded a new empire in Middle-earth. He tried to make up for it later by leading the elf king Gil-Galad against Sauron.
00:31:50 <oerjan> OKAY
00:31:52 <shachaf> ah, i see
00:32:11 <shachaf> There should be a version of sled which uses perl instlead
00:32:52 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas it looks like you tend to put trailing spaces in your wisdoms tdnh
00:32:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:33:30 <shachaf> the dogs now howl
00:33:42 <shachaf> `` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:33:45 <HackEgo> wisdom/math:Math class is tough! \ wisdom/utumno:Utumno is Morgoth's first dungeon. It is where he was defeated, and the Silmarils temporarily reclaimed from him. \ wisdom/wealhtheow:Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. \ wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes
00:34:02 <shachaf> `cwlprits utumno
00:34:08 <HackEgo> b_jonas
00:34:12 <shachaf> but why
00:34:26 <shachaf> `` rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom | wc -l
00:34:29 <HackEgo> 11
00:34:37 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{math,utumno,wealtheow}
00:34:40 <HackEgo> sed: can't read wisdom/wealtheow: No such file or directory
00:34:52 <shachaf> `cwlprits wealhtheow
00:34:56 <HackEgo> b_jonas b_jonas
00:34:58 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{math,utumno,wealhtheow}
00:35:01 <HackEgo> No output.
00:35:06 <shachaf> `1 rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom
00:35:11 <oerjan> `? wealhtheow
00:35:12 <HackEgo> 1/1:wisdom/fat \ wisdom/ghoul \ wisdom/delve \ wisdom/if \ wisdom/o \ wisdom/rhenium \ wisdom/semmelweis \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ
00:35:13 <HackEgo> Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story.
00:35:22 <shachaf> `1 rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:35:25 <HackEgo> 1/7:wisdom/fat:Fats are one of the four basic classes of nutrients. The other three are sugars, salt, and pizza. \ wisdom/ghoul:Ghouls are undead that eat BRAINS. So basically, bog standard undead like zombies or wights, but with some fancy back story in the book that nobody reads. \ wisdom/delve:Delve is a static ability that fu
00:35:29 <shachaf> 7?!
00:35:49 <shachaf> one of me, two of me, three of me, four of me, five, six, seven -- sorry, no more of me
00:35:50 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{fat,ghoul}
00:35:54 <HackEgo> No output.
00:35:58 <shachaf> `spam
00:35:58 <HackEgo> 2/7:nctions while the spell with delve is on the stack. "Delve" means "For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may exile a card from your graveyard rather than pay that mana." The delve ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with delve is determined. \ wi
00:36:14 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{delve}
00:36:15 <HackEgo> sed: can't read wisdom/{delve}: No such file or directory
00:36:23 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/delve
00:36:23 <shachaf> `cwlprits delve
00:36:34 <HackEgo> oerjan tswett tswett tswett
00:36:36 <HackEgo> No output.
00:36:53 <oerjan> `spam
00:36:54 <HackEgo> 3/7:sdom/if:If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss: \ wisdom/o:o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to ca
00:36:55 <shachaf> `` rgrep -Pl '\s+$' wisdom | while read f; do echo -n "$f:"; culprits "$f"; done
00:37:01 <oerjan> `spam
00:37:09 <HackEgo> 4/7:ll them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, essentially, and they're out to stop him and conquer their personal problems at the same time. Hopefully not
00:37:17 <HackEgo> wisdom/if:b_jonas \ wisdom/o:b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas oerjan_nope oerjan_nope \ wisdom/rhenium:b_jonas \ wisdom/semmelweis:shachaf \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ:b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas
00:37:25 <oerjan> `spam
00:37:27 <HackEgo> 5/7: in that order, so they get their personal problems taken care of before the final battle. And it's a comedy. \ wisdom/rhenium:Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring. \ wisdom/semmelweis:Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birth
00:37:36 <shachaf> `? semmelweis
00:37:38 <HackEgo> Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it.
00:37:54 <shachaf> `doag wisdom/semmelweis
00:37:58 <HackEgo> 2016-05-13 <shachaf> ` mv wisdom/semmelwei{,s}
00:38:05 <shachaf> Ah.
00:38:10 <shachaf> `culprits wisdom/semmelwei
00:38:14 <HackEgo> shachaf b_jonas
00:38:16 <shachaf> It did seem a bit uncharacteristic.
00:38:31 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/{if,o,rhenium,semmelweis}
00:38:33 <oerjan> `spam
00:38:33 <HackEgo> No output.
00:38:34 <HackEgo> 6/7:giving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. \ wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦ
00:38:48 <oerjan> ER
00:38:49 <oerjan> `spam
00:38:50 <HackEgo> 7/7:ᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ
00:38:54 <shachaf> oerjan has come out of retirement
00:39:14 <shachaf> oerjan: by the way, that's why distort used to keep the ' \ ' at the end of the final line
00:39:20 <shachaf> to spot lines that end with spaces
00:39:24 <oerjan> ic
00:39:30 <shachaf> but now you're ruined it the dogs now howl
00:39:33 <shachaf> you've
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00:40:22 <oerjan> `1 rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:40:24 <HackEgo> 1/2:wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅá
00:40:31 <oerjan> `spam
00:40:32 <HackEgo> 2/2:š¿á›á›¦áš¢á›˜ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ
00:40:41 <oerjan> do YOU see a // anywhere
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00:41:14 <oerjan> `1 rgrep -l '\s+$' wisdom
00:41:16 <HackEgo> 1/0:
00:41:18 <oerjan> er
00:41:29 <oerjan> `` rgrep -l '\s+$' wisdom
00:41:30 <HackEgo> No output.
00:41:37 <oerjan> is that wrong
00:41:51 <oerjan> `which rgrep
00:41:52 <HackEgo> ​/usr/bin/rgrep
00:42:04 <oerjan> `` grep -r -l '\s+$' wisdom
00:42:07 <HackEgo> No output.
00:42:31 <oerjan> `` rgrep -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:42:34 <HackEgo> wisdom/ᛁᚿ:ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆ
00:42:46 <oerjan> i don't get it.
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00:43:02 <oerjan> oh wait duh
00:43:11 <oerjan> no
00:43:29 <oerjan> `` rgrep -l -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:43:31 <HackEgo> wisdom/ᛁᚿ
00:43:40 <shachaf> `unidecode ᛆ
00:43:41 <HackEgo> ​[U+16C6 RUNIC LETTER SHORT-TWIG-AR A]
00:44:05 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ \+/ /g;s/ $//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ
00:44:09 <HackEgo> No output.
00:44:13 <oerjan> `` rgrep -l -P '\s+$' wisdom
00:44:14 <HackEgo> No output.
00:44:19 <oerjan> there.
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00:45:25 <shachaf> lawnchairs are for retirees
00:45:29 <oerjan> correct
00:45:33 <shachaf> you don't qualify anymore
00:45:56 <oerjan> i've told you, norwegian retirees are officially encouraged to keep working hth
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01:37:14 <shachaf> `wisdom
01:37:40 <shachaf> @wn retiree
01:37:41 <lambdabot> *** "retiree" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
01:37:41 <lambdabot> retiree
01:37:41 <lambdabot> n 1: someone who has retired from active working [syn:
01:37:41 <lambdabot> {retiree}, {retired person}]
01:37:46 <HackEgo> bookwatching//bookwatching is when you conflagrate birdwatching and the books used to identify them in the same object.
01:37:50 <shachaf> @wn retire
01:37:51 <lambdabot> *** "retire" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
01:37:51 <lambdabot> retire
01:37:51 <lambdabot> v 1: go into retirement; stop performing one's work or withdraw
01:37:51 <lambdabot> from one's position; "He retired at age 68"
01:37:51 <lambdabot> 2: withdraw from active participation; "He retired from chess"
01:37:53 <lambdabot> [26 @more lines]
02:00:01 <oerjan> shachaf: don't expect your logic to work against the norwegian Arbeidslinja tdnh
02:02:06 <shachaf> oerjan: the googletranslation of https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeidslinja says "welfare benefits"
02:02:16 <shachaf> perhaps it's a word translation thing
02:02:51 <oerjan> definitely not one of google translation's most reliable ones.
02:04:16 <oerjan> i have no idea what it's called in other languages, it's a norwegian political term and may not be succinctly translateable.
02:05:53 <oerjan> but briefly, it's about how to structure the welfare system such that it protects those who cannot work, but it's still better to work if you're able to.
02:06:39 <ais523> oerjan: we have that problem in the UK too
02:07:38 <oerjan> hm the swedish term "arbetslinjen" is probably similar. it has a brief english wikipedia article.
02:07:49 <shachaf> oerjan: i think the word "retire" is independent of welfare, though
02:07:50 <oerjan> (most likely norwegians borrowed it)
02:08:44 <oerjan> shachaf: i see you keep stubbornly clinging to logic.
02:09:05 <oerjan> (you might perhaps substitute "pensioners")
02:09:13 <shachaf> oh, well, sure
02:11:24 <oerjan> swedish wikipedia suggests "workfare"
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08:09:58 <tswett> Nnnnnngh. You know what I don't like?
08:10:14 <tswett> Builder classes where every method ends with "return this", and so you do stuff like...
08:10:35 <tswett> Color myColor = new ColorBuilder().setRed(10).setGreen(20).setBlue(30).build();
08:11:16 <myname> why not
08:11:35 <myname> as long as there is also a setRGB i am perfectly fine with it
08:13:41 <tswett> Well, suppose I do this:
08:13:52 <tswett> ColorBuilder myNewColorBuilder = myOldColorBuilder.setRed(10);
08:14:28 <tswett> The signature for "setRed" makes it look like you can do that, and end up with two different ColorBuilders, one where the red has been set to 10 and one where it hasn't.
08:16:09 <tswett> But as a matter of fact, setRed just mutates the existing object and returns it again.
08:18:05 <tswett> I guess what this all comes down to is that you're doing something semantically weird for the sake of convenient syntax.
08:23:07 <myname> just don't do oop
08:26:37 <tswett> That is good* advice and I will* take it, because I hate* OOP and using OOP is completely unnecessary* and unhelpful* for both my job and my hobbies.
08:31:22 <tswett> You know what else I don't like? C-style for-loop syntax.
08:31:28 <tswett> It's a bad idea.
08:31:59 <zzo38> Is the BASIC style of for-loops better?
08:34:37 <myname> who needs for if he has map! :p
08:34:49 <tswett> I'm not familiar with BASIC for-loop syntax.
08:35:01 <tswett> But compare these two syntaxes...
08:35:37 <tswett> 20 timesRepeat: [ do something here ]
08:35:54 <tswett> for(int i = 0; i < 20; i++) { do something here }
08:36:05 <tswett> Which one is easier to read?
08:36:07 <zzo38> FOR X = 10 TO 60 STEP 2 is an example of a BASIC for-loop syntax
08:36:11 <tswett> Hint: it's the first one.
08:36:22 <tswett> Yes, that's definitely better.
08:37:22 <tswett> In this case, I think it'd be something like...
08:37:28 <tswett> FOR I = 1 TO 20
08:37:32 <tswett> Right?
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08:42:54 <zzo38> Yes that could work
08:43:08 <b_jonas> oerjan, shchaf: YOU REMOVED MY PROPER SPACING between sentences! WHY?
08:44:30 <oerjan> b_jonas: wisdom entries are one space hth
08:45:08 <oerjan> ironically, i used to do two spaces until people complained too much
08:45:28 <oerjan> AAAAAA STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
08:47:38 <oerjan> (mind you, i still do in other places)
08:47:40 <b_jonas> And why'd you even remove the space from the end?
08:47:46 <shachaf> oh, come on
08:47:58 <shachaf> spaces at the end are scow
08:48:05 <shachaf> even oerjan can agree about that
08:48:16 <oerjan> b_jonas: actually that was the main thing and the double spaces were just an afterthought.
08:48:45 <shachaf> zzo38: Better than what?
08:49:22 <b_jonas> it doesn't matter which one was first.
08:49:33 <b_jonas> next you'll be editing my British spellings to American or something?
08:49:49 <oerjan> b_jonas: for one thing, learn_append only works properly with that format.
08:50:13 <oerjan> it will add one space, and expects the old one to end in punctuation.
08:50:41 <b_jonas> oerjan: no! learn_append adds one space, so it works properly if there's two space between sentences and one at the end after the last sentence
08:50:48 <b_jonas> it will add another space so there's two between the sentences.
08:50:51 <oerjan> fiendish.
08:51:17 <oerjan> but then it breaks if i don't add a new space.
08:51:19 <shachaf> oerjan: you gotta admit that was a good one hth
08:51:38 <oerjan> shachaf: so good i sort of thought of it myself.
08:51:49 <shachaf> `cat bin/learn_append
08:52:00 <shachaf> `cat le/rn_append
08:52:27 <shachaf> `whackego
08:52:36 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ [[ "$1" = */* ]] || exit \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | cut -d / -f 1) \ [ -z "$topic" ] && exit 1 \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d / -f 2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic"
08:52:36 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic="$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//')" \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic"
08:53:33 <shachaf> Maybe `le/rn_append shouldn't add the space.
08:53:45 <oerjan> shachaf: AAAAAAAAA
08:54:08 <shachaf> `ls le
08:54:12 <HackEgo> rn \ rn_append
08:56:05 <oerjan> ...hm that _would_ be convenient in some cases. but also easy to get wrong.
08:56:43 <shachaf> `ø/rjan s# # #
08:57:08 <shachaf> What if it was an expert mode? You can specify it by using a triple slash in the command's name.
08:58:44 <oerjan> `revert 8868
08:58:44 <HackEgo> abort: unknown revision '8868'!
08:58:54 <oerjan> `revert 8668
08:59:26 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
08:59:28 <shachaf> oerjan: whoa whoa whoa
09:00:45 <oerjan> triple slash might work
09:01:05 <shachaf> (Or, you know, it could just be a different command name.)
09:01:16 <shachaf> What's with the revert?
09:01:59 <b_jonas> shachaf: NO! the extra slash is part of the text to append
09:02:14 <shachaf> b_jonas: Obviously I mean in the command name.
09:02:18 <b_jonas> shachaf: if you want a special mode, make it a slash at the beginning of the filename, or a 256 long path component
09:02:18 <shachaf> le///rn_append
09:02:24 <b_jonas> ah!
09:02:26 <b_jonas> in the command name
09:02:29 <b_jonas> ouch
09:02:34 <shachaf> Just like le/rn has two modes, le/rn and le//rn
09:02:48 <shachaf> The latter lets you le/rn wisdoms containing slashes.
09:02:54 <b_jonas> yeah
09:03:27 <shachaf> I don't know why oerjan reverted to 8668.
09:03:34 <shachaf> There are rules and regulations about wisdoms.
09:03:38 <shachaf> It's all very orderly.
09:03:55 <b_jonas> `? rules
09:03:56 <b_jonas> `? order
09:04:07 <oerjan> shachaf: they're rather unwritten...
09:04:13 <b_jonas> `? laws
09:04:19 <shachaf> Why are you doing that?
09:04:23 <shachaf> You know there won't be any results.
09:04:29 <HackEgo> rules? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:04:29 <HackEgo> order? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:04:34 <HackEgo> laws? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:08:07 <oerjan> `` ls wisdom/*fmt*
09:08:12 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wisdom/*fmt*: No such file or directory
09:08:33 <oerjan> `` ls wisdom/*format*
09:08:34 <HackEgo> wisdom/natural transformation \ wisdom/quoteformat
09:08:40 <oerjan> just for the quotes
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09:38:01 <hppavilion[1]> I remember reading a book... a long time ago
09:38:04 <hppavilion[1]> And I want to read it again
09:38:10 <hppavilion[1]> But I don't remember anything about it, really
09:38:16 <hppavilion[1]> Like, I have tiny details
09:38:28 <hppavilion[1]> Enough that someone else who knows about it could name it
09:38:37 <hppavilion[1]> But not enough to recover it on my own
09:39:14 <hppavilion[1]> Wait, I remember a somewhat distinctive name from a chapter
09:39:18 <hppavilion[1]> "The Crucible of Fire"
09:39:24 <hppavilion[1]> It's a book about some weird alternate world
09:39:41 <hppavilion[1]> And it's hinted that it was created by humans as an experiment of sorts; modern technology is seen rarely as magic
09:41:12 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: is it a fiction book? is it a fantasy or sci-fi book? if so, http://scifi.stackexchange.com/ is usually great for identification questions
09:41:24 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: Definitely fiction
09:41:38 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: It was... sort of sci fi and fantasy, depending on how you looked at it
09:41:43 <hppavilion[1]> It leaned towards fantasy though
09:41:47 <hppavilion[1]> I might have found it on a reddit
09:42:11 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: if it's sci-fi or fantasy, then scifi.stackexchange.com works well. you don't have to know which of the two it is.
09:42:31 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: OK, thank you
09:42:32 <b_jonas> otherwise, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities may work, it's worked for me at least once
09:43:13 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: make sure you read instructions at http://scifi.stackexchange.com/tags/story-identification/info or http://meta.scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/9335/how-to-ask-a-good-story-id-question
09:45:57 <hppavilion[1]> I think I found it!
09:46:50 <hppavilion[1]> The Relic Master, it appears it is
09:46:52 <hppavilion[1]> Maybe
09:47:36 <hppavilion[1]> Yep, Relic Master series by Catherine Fisher
09:47:51 * hppavilion[1] raises his hand for a high five to anyone who so desires
09:48:34 <hppavilion[1]> Now to find somewhere I can get it from...
09:48:55 <hppavilion[1]> (I should probably check my bookshelf first, but I have a feeling I read it on a kindle)
09:50:29 <hppavilion[1]> Oooh! While looking for it I found the Leven Thumps series
09:51:42 <b_jonas> look in your kindle or your hard disk too then
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13:45:25 <int-e> `wisdom
13:45:37 <int-e> > 6*7
13:45:39 <lambdabot> 42
13:45:56 <HackEgo> ais523//Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good.
13:46:24 <int-e> `wisdom
13:46:34 <HackEgo> mycology//mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/
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17:13:02 <int-e> `unidecode 〚〚
17:13:25 <HackEgo> ​[U+301A LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET] [U+301A LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET]
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21:01:39 <zzo38> Vim programs F1 as help and other functions keys do nothing, which isn't very useful. I would want to reprogram it so that perhaps F1 is a different function, and so that F4 will suppress the alternate buffer until a key is pushed, so that shell output can be seen (similar to the function of F4 in QBASIC).
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21:26:08 <zzo38> Do you think this is good so far? http://sprunge.us/MRce (Note some of the functions listed are not yet fully implemented, but are either partially implemented or are called by functions that are implemented)
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23:09:14 <hppavilion[2]> And the lord thus spake: "Let there be a motherfucking hexagon on motherfucking saturn, and let it confuse the humans forevermore"
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23:27:21 <hppavilion[2]> They should make a movie called "The Abyss"
23:27:28 <hppavilion[2]> If you gaze long into it, it gazes back
23:29:30 <oerjan> they already did
23:30:48 <hppavilion[2]> oerjan: Oh?
23:31:04 <hppavilion[2]> Hm, maybe I should change my surname to "The Abyss" and become a doctor
23:31:09 <hppavilion[2]> "The Abyss will gaze into you now"
23:33:12 <oerjan> `? abyss
23:33:40 <HackEgo> abyss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:34:27 <oerjan> `le/rn abyss/In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same.
23:34:33 <HackEgo> Learned «abyss»
23:37:48 <shachaf> oerjan: what happened to starting a wisdom entry with the key
23:38:13 <oerjan> i don't think that really works for soviet russia jokes hth
23:38:22 <shachaf> also what happens when the abyss stares into you and then you don't stare back
23:38:28 <shachaf> i,i
23:38:30 <shachaf> @google what's expected of us
23:38:32 <lambdabot> http://www.nature.com/articles/436150a
23:38:32 <lambdabot> Title: What's expected of us : Article : Nature
23:40:11 <oerjan> shachaf: then you get sent to siberia for gazing lessons hth
23:41:23 <oerjan> hm of course the original is in german, so cannot expect a definite english version
23:43:13 <shachaf> the german version is probably backwards
23:43:36 <shachaf> anyway that story i linked to is good
23:43:42 <oerjan> i've seen it before
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00:05:51 <boily> hallørjen.
00:06:06 <boily> hellochaftiddlywhoo
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00:08:15 <oerjan> alas, poor underline
00:13:34 <quintopia> helloily
00:13:42 <oerjan> <zzo38> Vim programs F1 as help and other functions keys do nothing [...] <-- F1 opens help in gvim on windows, at least
00:14:01 <oerjan> (that's the only one i checked)
00:14:23 <oerjan> oh, works in my linux terminal too
00:14:38 <oerjan> oh wait
00:14:44 <oerjan> sorry, misparsed your sentence
00:15:35 <boily> quinthellopia
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00:50:35 <izabera> why does socketpair need to be a syscall?
00:57:21 <quintopia> because
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01:00:43 <izabera> oh
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02:15:38 <\oren\> I recently switched to using ctrl-ins, shift-ins for copy and paste. this has the advantage of working on windows, linux and mac the same way
02:16:21 <shachaf> I don't have an Ins key.
02:16:53 <\oren\> o_O; wha?
02:17:13 <\oren\> what computer doesn't have insert?
02:18:49 <shachaf> My work computer, a MacBook Pro.
02:19:22 <shachaf> Somehow it still has a caps lock key, though.
02:19:42 <shachaf> Apple got rid of the floppy drive and of the optical drive. But they didn't get rid of caps lock. Absurd.
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02:20:49 <\oren\> shachaf: I use a macbook at work, but I have an external keyboard
02:21:40 <\oren\> the macbook's keyboard is also missing a numpad, which i consider essential
02:21:54 <shachaf> I consider it inessential.
02:22:06 <shachaf> I learned hjklyubn so now I can play NetHack without a number pad.
02:22:32 <\oren\> I use the numpad to type numbers quickly
02:22:43 <shachaf> I use the numrow to type numbers quickly.
02:23:44 <quintopia> i have given up having a numpad as well
02:23:58 <shachaf> I never wanted it in the first place.
02:24:14 <quintopia> not only are numpadless keyboards more compact, they are less expensive!
02:24:16 <shachaf> Typing numbers is for the birds.
02:24:38 <quintopia> i have yet to adopt a bird to type numbers for me, I regret to admit
02:24:57 <shachaf> The Bird is Cruel!
02:25:03 <shachaf> (Or so `hoag informs me.)
02:25:28 <quintopia> (i have purchased keyboards with numpads before, but it was only coincidence--it was never a factor in my decision)
02:27:07 <\oren\> only thing I don't like about this keyboard (on my Thinkpad) is the lack of a print screen key
02:28:32 <shachaf> I'm OK with a pixel screen. Printers are outdated.
02:28:39 <\oren\> print screen is essential for pics or it didn't happen
02:29:59 <shachaf> On my work computer, a MacBook Pro, I can press Cmd-Shift-3 to make a picture of the screen, or Cmd-Shift-4 to make a picture of a window or rectangle.
02:30:22 <shachaf> Very convenient.
02:30:32 <tswett> I think my laptop has all the same keys that a full keyboard has, except for two.
02:30:41 <tswett> Plus it has one key that a full keyboard doesn't have.
02:30:44 <shachaf> On my personal computer, I have a Print Screen key. But I usually run a command line program.
02:30:53 <tswett> Those keys are insert and scroll lock.
02:31:36 <tswett> And "fn" is the extra one.
02:32:23 * oerjan has all those, and a numpad
02:32:47 <tswett> oerjan: do you have a laptop that does have insert and scroll lock keys?
02:33:16 <oerjan> well there's a marking for scr lk on the num lk key
02:33:31 <oerjan> and there's insert on the numpad
02:33:42 <tswett> So no, it doesn't have a scroll lock key.
02:34:04 <oerjan> my previous laptop didn't have a separate numpad, although it had a setting to put a numpad in the middle of the ordinary keys
02:34:10 <oerjan> OKAY
02:34:23 <shachaf> oerjan: tswett sure showed you
02:34:32 <tswett> I'm talking about dedicated keys. Mine has decidated keys for all but two of the standard keys.
02:34:33 <oerjan> and the insert key is shared with 0
02:34:52 <tswett> oerjan: so far, it sounds like you have the same laptop keyboard that I have.
02:35:01 <oerjan> is it an asus
02:35:08 <tswett> Yes.
02:35:18 <shachaf> which one
02:35:48 <tswett> Do the media buttons on your F keys go sleep, airplane, keyboard dim, keyboard bright, screen dim, screen bright, screen off, projector, touchpad disable, mute, quiet, loud?
02:37:11 <oerjan> i don't have keyboard lights, but otherwise yes
02:37:21 <oerjan> (i think)
02:38:04 <oerjan> not sure about airplane, it's some kind of radiating antenna symbol
02:38:49 <tswett> Probably the same thing.
02:38:54 <tswett> Does your F2 key have a little light in it?
02:38:56 <oerjan> Fn + F3 seems to open up some email program.
02:39:25 <oerjan> oh it's airplane indeed. no light though.
02:39:32 <shachaf> `wisdom
02:39:37 <tswett> I really oughta get my media keys working.
02:39:52 <oerjan> F3 and F4 have no media symbols
02:39:53 <tswett> I'm tired of only being able to change my backlight brightness by using the xbacklight command.
02:40:03 <HackEgo> døsthiswork//no
02:40:22 <shachaf> clever
02:40:31 <shachaf> `cwlprits døsthiswork
02:40:43 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 oerjan elliott olsner Bike FreeFull shachaf
02:40:48 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
02:40:58 <shachaf> `hog wisdom/døsthiswork
02:41:06 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> revert \ <olsner> cp wisdom/doesthiswork wisdom/d\xc3\xb8sthiswork \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <shachaf> echo yes > wisdom/d\xc3\xb8sthiswork
02:41:37 <shachaf> `wisdom
02:41:39 <HackEgo> pico//pico is the useless twin of nano.
02:43:04 <tswett> Maybe I should upgrade to 16.4.
02:43:35 <shachaf> pico isn't cool. You know what's cool? nano.
02:44:27 <oerjan> when my laptop was in for repairs, i got a replacement with keyboard lights. i found it irritating, especially since it wouldn't remember that i wanted them off.
02:45:13 <oerjan> (well, when i turned the laptop on.)
02:45:41 <oerjan> is there an atto
02:45:57 <tswett> Just paint over all the letters with black paint.
02:46:11 <tswett> Use one of those tiny brushes.
02:46:24 <oerjan> AAAAAAAA
02:46:44 <tswett> What's the codename for 16.4, anyway?
02:46:58 <oerjan> tswett: the lights came through the borders of the keys, not the letters, iirc.
02:47:17 <tswett> Just install rubber seals around all the keys.
02:47:23 <oerjan> i may misremember whether the letters also shined
02:47:48 <oerjan> anyway, that laptop is long since back in the shop.
02:48:28 <tswett> It'd be kind of difficult to use a backlit keyboard where the letters don't shine.
02:48:35 <oerjan> . o O ( Atrocious Allosaurus )
02:48:58 <oerjan> MAYBE
02:48:58 <tswett> Isn't this one X?
02:49:02 <tswett> Also, what was the animal for U?
02:49:12 <oerjan> tswett: i'm just joking
02:49:20 <tswett> Nobody can name an animal starting with U.
02:49:42 <oerjan> huh
02:49:52 <oerjan> Undulating Utahraptor
02:50:24 <tswett> Oh wow, my Ubuntu distro has been EOL since February.
02:50:26 <tswett> Why wasn't I notified?
02:50:40 <oerjan> the notifications were also EOLed hth
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02:51:07 <tswett> os
02:51:50 <oerjan> hm it is indeed hard to think of a modern animal starting with U.
02:52:15 <\oren\> Usagi
02:52:22 <oerjan> in english, \oren\
02:52:37 <oerjan> although i also thought of that one
02:52:45 <\oren\> Uman
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02:53:25 <oerjan> Ulv
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02:53:54 <\oren\> hppavilion[2]: you've been incremented!
02:53:58 <oerjan> there's got to be some obscure antelope
02:54:48 <\oren\> Uakari
02:54:55 <tswett> Yeah, maybe they've got one on the coat of arms of some country starting with U.
02:55:07 <\oren\> it's a kind of monkey
02:55:09 <tswett> Like, maybe it's an animal where the name of the animal just begins with the name of that country.
02:55:49 <\oren\> Ukrainian swamp tiger
02:56:06 <tswett> That doesn't sound like an obscure antelope.
02:56:33 <oerjan> stupid wikipedia's mammal list goes by genus in latin
02:57:04 <shachaf> oerjan: "genus" in latin is "genus" hth
02:57:25 * oerjan lightly swats shachaf -----###
02:57:42 <tswett> No, "genus" in Latin is "genus_(taxinomia)" hth.
02:57:47 <tswett> Proof: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus_%28taxinomia%29
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02:57:58 <tswett> Sorry, it's "genus_%28taxinomia%29".
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03:00:32 <tswett> Man, I really miss the days when Ubuntu's theme color was brown instead of purple.
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03:04:56 <tswett> Oh right, I was gonna ponder this funny little language of mine.
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03:11:33 <alercah> `unicode U+01b9
03:11:37 <HackEgo> ​ƹ
03:12:09 <tswett> `unidecode ƹ
03:12:14 <HackEgo> ​[U+01B9 LATIN SMALL LETTER EZH REVERSED]
03:13:08 <tswett> This is the language that's tentatively named Tokiber.
03:13:21 <tswett> Not to be confused with the language that's tentatively named Quendle.
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03:14:45 <\oren\> tswett: they switched to purple?
03:15:27 <tswett> \oren\: yeah, like nearly ten years ago.
03:17:32 <\oren\> their website is still orange
03:19:03 <\oren\> hmm from screenshots of 16.04 I can see there's a lot more purple now, but still some orang
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03:19:58 <tswett> Things I have defined in Tokiber: categories; categories with a terminal object; finite product categories; finite limit categories; monoids; the forgetful functor from monoids to categories; groups; abelian groups; rings with identity; "natural number algebras".
03:20:51 <\oren\> what about strings?
03:21:24 <\oren\> oh, wait, every string is a natural number, never mind
03:21:34 <shachaf> Strings aren't natural numbers.
03:21:57 <\oren\> they could be represented by them?
03:22:14 <shachaf> Of course.
03:22:20 <\oren\> the string "\00" is 2. the string
03:22:31 <\oren\> "\0\0" is 2
03:22:40 <\oren\> h...
03:23:09 <tswett> A natural number algebra consists of a sort N, a point "zero" in N, and a function "succ" from N to N.
03:23:17 <\oren\> screw it, take the bitstream, add a 1 at the end and call that a number
03:24:27 <\oren\> tswett: a sort like quicksort or mergesort?
03:24:32 <tswett> Nah, use bijective base 1112064.
03:24:41 <tswett> "A sort" means "a set or whatever".
03:24:41 <shachaf> What's a point? An arrow from a terminal object?
03:25:16 <shachaf> You should do the CDOs in http://chu.stanford.edu/PrattSRMK2016.pdf
03:25:23 <\oren\> oh, bijective base. that is way better.
03:25:23 <shachaf> You have points and copoints. It's TG.
03:25:33 <tswett> An arrow from a terminal object, yes.
03:26:04 <shachaf> And adjunctions are just a special case of associativity.
03:26:16 <tswett> So yeah, really "a sort" means "an object in the ambient category-with-a-terminal-object".
03:26:37 <shachaf> an object in the ambivalent category
03:27:58 <tswett> "Function", of course, means "arrow".
03:28:15 <tswett> I want to define the squaring function on the integers.
03:28:32 <\oren\> man, I'm still entirely ignorant of the difference between a category and a set.
03:29:17 <shachaf> There isn't much similarity.
03:29:40 <tswett> A category is a directed graph equipped with a composition operator which is associative and has identities.
03:29:50 <tswett> A set isn't.
03:30:23 <\oren\> ok but what does it mean for something to be "in the category C"
03:30:28 <shachaf> Pft. A category is a generalized monoid.
03:30:52 <\oren\> does that mean it's one of the points on the graph?
03:31:00 <shachaf> Do you actually want an answer for what a category is?
03:31:26 <tswett> \oren\: well, that depends on what the thing is. The vertices of a category are called objects, so that tells you what an "object in the category C" is.
03:32:06 <tswett> The edges are called arrows or morphisms (the two words are exact synonyms).
03:33:10 <\oren\> ok that makes a lot more sense than the wikipedia article
03:33:26 <tswett> The "usual case" is for the objects to be algebraic structures and for the arrows to be homomorphisms between them.
03:33:35 <tswett> That's what the "category of groups" is, for example.
03:34:18 <shachaf> I think thinking of a category as a graph is a bit misleading if you want good intuition.
03:34:45 <\oren\> can I think of it as a set of sets and functions between sets?
03:35:09 <\oren\> that's how i was thinking of it
03:35:09 <shachaf> The important part of a category is the arrows.
03:35:11 <tswett> You can certainly think of it as being *like* a set of sets and functions between sets.
03:35:14 <shachaf> The objects are almost irrelevant.
03:35:28 <shachaf> The arrows aren't functions (except in some special cases).
03:35:32 <tswett> In most cases, the objects are "kind of like sets" and the arrows are "kind of like functions".
03:38:02 <\oren\> shachaf: in what ways can they fail to be functions?
03:38:29 <shachaf> Are the elements of a group functions?
03:39:30 <shachaf> Well, that's maybe a bad question because of Cayley's theorem.
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03:42:44 <\oren\> shachaf: I was thinking more of what they do to the elements of the objects
03:43:37 <oerjan> \oren\: categories that are "sets and functions between sets" are an important special case, known as _concrete_ categories.
03:44:20 <shachaf> \oren\: I'd give you an example, but maybe first you should have the definition of a category.
03:44:56 <\oren\> seems like first I need the definition of an object?
03:45:14 <oerjan> there isn't one
03:45:22 <oerjan> an object can be literally _anything_
03:45:30 <oerjan> dependent on the category
03:45:56 <shachaf> First you need the definition of an arrow.
03:46:06 <shachaf> Which can also be literally anything.
03:46:17 <shachaf> OK, well, do you know what a monoid is?
03:46:31 <\oren\> something from Haskell?
03:46:47 <\oren\> no wait that's "monad"
03:47:05 <shachaf> Do you know what a group is?
03:47:11 <\oren\> yes
03:47:23 <shachaf> A monoid is like a group, except elements don't necessarily have inverses.
03:47:54 <\oren\> ok.
03:47:59 <shachaf> So you have multiplication, and you have an identity element 1, such that a(bc) = (ab)c, a1 = a, 1a = a
03:48:33 <shachaf> Sounds good?
03:48:44 <\oren\> yup. with you so far.
03:49:08 <shachaf> A good example of a monoid is strings over some alphabet. Multiplication is concatenation, and 1 is the empty string.
03:49:53 <shachaf> Another example of a monoid is NxN matrices, with the identity matrix and matrix multiplication.
03:50:35 <shachaf> But what you'd want to do is talk about the monoid of all matrices, not just NxN matrices.
03:50:48 <shachaf> Multiplication is still associative, and you still have identity matrices. Right?
03:51:00 <\oren\> yeah.
03:51:13 <shachaf> The trouble is that you can't multiply two arbitrary matrices. The sizes have to match.
03:51:36 <shachaf> In particular, you can multiply and IxJ matrix with a JxK matrix, to get an IxK matrix.
03:52:01 <shachaf> And you don't just have one identity, you have one for each size. So you have a 5x5 identity matrix and so on.
03:52:10 <\oren\> right
03:52:45 <shachaf> The laws are still the same. a(bc) = (ab)c, id_N . a = a, a . id_M = a
03:52:51 <shachaf> If a is an NxM matrix.
03:53:18 <shachaf> (Where . is multiplication.)
03:53:59 <shachaf> So if you generalize that, that's what a category is.
03:54:23 <\oren\> where the matrices are the arrows?
03:54:26 <shachaf> Yes.
03:54:28 <shachaf> A category has a bunch of things, called arrows, that you can multiply together.
03:54:37 <shachaf> But you can't multiply any two things together.
03:54:59 <\oren\> only if one points to the vertex where another begins.
03:55:14 <shachaf> So you have a bunch of things, called objects. Each arrow has a "domain" object and a "codomain" object (these correspond to the dimensions of the matrix).
03:55:48 <shachaf> You generally write f : A -> B to mean that f is an arrow with domain A and codomain B.
03:57:14 <shachaf> You have an operation ., called composition or multiplication, where f . g is defined the codomain of g is equal to the domain of f.
03:57:42 <shachaf> . is associative
03:58:14 <shachaf> And for every object A, you have a special arrow 1_A : A -> A, such that for any f : A -> B, f . 1_A = f, and for any g : C -> A, 1_A . g = g
04:00:21 <shachaf> Does that make sense?
04:00:26 <\oren\> yes
04:00:50 <shachaf> OK. It's pretty simple.
04:01:06 <shachaf> Now you can talk about other categories. A popular one is one where the arrows are functions.
04:01:35 <shachaf> The objects are sets. You can see that it all works out.
04:06:18 <\oren\> that helps a lot, to have an example other than the category(s) of functions and sets
04:06:47 <shachaf> There are lots of other examples.
04:07:59 <shachaf> You can pretty easily see that a monoid is a category with one object. Yes?
04:08:09 <shachaf> (Or can be represented that way, at least.)
04:08:19 <\oren\> yes
04:08:45 <shachaf> And it doesn't matter what the object is. For example, it could be a cup of tea.
04:09:32 <shachaf> You can represent a set as a category, where each object represents an element, and there are only identity arrows.
04:09:37 <shachaf> (That's called a "discrete category".)
04:11:19 <shachaf> You can also represent a preorder as a category. You do that by saying that, for any pair of objects (A,B), there's at most one arrow : A -> B, iff A <= B.
04:12:03 <shachaf> Identity arrows correspond to reflexivity, and arrow composition corresponds to transitivity.
04:12:26 <\oren\> i see, the composition of arrows would only lead to true <= statements...
04:12:39 <shachaf> Right.
04:12:50 <shachaf> These are kind of boring categories because they're extreme.
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04:13:43 <\oren\> they should be on the wiki page so that people can figure out that a category isn't just what i thought it was.
04:13:58 <shachaf> A very popular sort of category is one where the arrows are homomorphisms of some structure.
04:14:11 <shachaf> For example, group homomorphisms, or continuous functions, or linear maps.
04:14:35 <shachaf> The objects would be groups, or topological spaces, or vector spaces, respectively.
04:14:57 <shachaf> (The category of finite-dimensional vector spaces and linear maps is very similar to the one with matrices that we started with.)
04:15:36 <shachaf> Sounds good?
04:15:58 <\oren\> yeah all of those sound like they should work
04:16:26 <shachaf> People almost always define homomorphisms such that they're associative and have identities.
04:16:33 <shachaf> The next question is why would you care about categories?
04:17:04 <shachaf> And in a way this whole conversation is backwards, because that question is the right place to start.
04:19:04 <shachaf> Probably the right approach is to start with naturality, like what's-his-name did.
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04:55:55 <hppavilion[2]> What're some of the best spacey simulations?
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05:00:37 <\oren\> hppavilion[2]: KSP is my favorite, but there's also space engine
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05:00:53 <hppavilion[2]> \oren\: I mean videos xD
05:01:08 <hppavilion[2]> \oren\: Simulations of weird things happening in space
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05:50:28 <tswett> Uhhh, right. I wanted to define the squaring function on the integers.
05:50:52 <tswett> Which probably means I should define the integers.
05:52:39 <tswett> So far, I don't have a way to do that.
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06:02:09 <tswett> Like, I have a way to define finite algebras.
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06:09:58 <tswett> So I've defined sets, and I've defined rings with identity.
06:10:08 <tswett> Here's what the definition of a set currently looks like:
06:10:15 <tswett> theory Set : CATEGORY { sort Element; }
06:10:38 <tswett> Paraphrased in English:
06:10:41 <tswett> "A set consists of a set."
06:11:38 <tswett> You can define the empty set, too. It looks something like this:
06:11:53 <tswett> algebra EmptySet : Set { Element := 0; }
06:12:40 <tswett> The definition of a ring with identity starts out like this:
06:12:55 <tswett> theory RingWithIdent extends Set : FPRODCAT {
06:13:50 <tswett> The "extends" keyword automatically defines a forgetful functor RingWithIdent -> Set.
06:16:45 <tswett> So theoretically, you ought to just be able to grab the left adjoint to that functor, giving you the free functor Set -> RingWithIdent.
06:17:06 <tswett> And then apply that to EmptySet, and boom, you get the free ring-with-identity on the empty set—in other words, the integers.
06:17:57 <tswett> That's all well and good. In fact, let me simply declare that that is now a feature of the language.
06:18:03 <tswett> How are we gonna define functions on the integers, now?
06:20:42 <tswett> Come to think of it, I haven't defined any way of defining homomorphisms at all.
06:39:36 <tswett> All right, I suppose theoretically I ought to just be able to say this:
06:40:53 <tswett> homomorphism square : forget Integer as Set -> forget Integer as Set { all x := mult x x }
06:41:43 <tswett> Good ol' "forget Integer as Set". One of my favorite algebras.
06:43:56 <tswett> Whoops, I forgot the semicolon.
06:45:18 <tswett> And I guess logically, I ought to be able to define the integers like this:
06:45:34 <tswett> define algebra Integer : RingWithIdent := free EmptySet as RingWithIdent;
06:46:06 <tswett> Likewise, I ought to be able to define the natural numbers (in one of their incarnations) like this:
06:46:21 <tswett> define algebra PeanoNatural : NatNumAlg := free EmptySet as NatNumAlg;
06:47:02 <tswett> Now ideally, one might like to be able to define the "inclusion" function from PeanoNatural to Integer.
06:47:15 <tswett> Rather, from "forget PeanoNatural as Set" to "forget Integer as Set".
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08:49:22 <int-e> http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/cube8.html ... that was tricky to reassemble :)
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09:16:03 <\oren\> corrolary to the sapir-whorf hypothesis: learning a new language increases the range of thoughts you can think.
09:17:19 <shachaf> Or perhaps decreases it.
09:17:56 <shachaf> tswett: 2 is sometimes called I, the interval category
09:18:09 <shachaf> In some ways it behaves like the closed interval [0,1]
09:18:23 <shachaf> In this perspective a natural transformation is like a homotopy of functors.
09:18:40 <tswett> Yup.
09:19:46 <tswett> You can define the interval category in Tokiber easily enough...
09:20:07 <tswett> theory Interval : CATEGORY { sort Domain; sort Codomain; arrow : Domain -> Codomain; }
09:20:34 <shachaf> Can you define hTop?
09:21:29 <tswett> The category whose objects are topological spaces and whose arrows are homotopy classes of continuous maps?
09:21:52 <tswett> Not as a theory, no.
09:22:06 <tswett> You can't define a theory that has uncountably many objects.
09:22:10 <shachaf> What!
09:22:32 <shachaf> Not even uncountably many?
09:22:35 <tswett> I mean, you "could" do that, but only by writing an uncountable amount of code.
09:23:15 <tswett> For the doctrine CATEGORY, you can't even define a theory that has infinitely many objects.
09:25:09 <tswett> A theory is a finite presentation of a category (or a category-with-a-terminal-object or a finite product category or a finite limit category). And every finitely presented category-with-a-cherry-on-top has only countably many objects.
09:28:15 <shachaf> But what about infinitary theories?
09:28:22 <shachaf> `? frame
09:28:53 <HackEgo> A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean.
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09:30:24 <tswett> Every definition represents a finite mathematical object.
09:30:27 <shachaf> «For infinitary theories, such as that of frames, there is a hitch. Step 2 of Theorem 4.3.6 tells us to form the set of all possible expressions using the generators and the operators, and at this stage the general theory doesn't use the algebraic laws to make any identifications between expressions (this comes in Step 4). This is fine for the finitary algebraic theories. However, for frames, we can mak
09:30:33 <shachaf> e new expressions by forming joins of ...
09:30:35 <shachaf> ... arbitrary sets of older expressions, and this can't be done in set theory. Technically, the "set" of all possible expressions would be a proper class: it is too big to be a valid set. This is a genuine problem. There are infinitary theories (such as that of complete Boolean algebras - see Johnstone [82]) where this is insuperable and presentations simply don't present algebras. For frames, fortunatel
09:30:41 <shachaf> y, presentations do present, but we ...
09:30:44 <shachaf> ... have to argue slightly carefully to show this.»
09:30:46 <shachaf> I don't even remember any of this
09:30:48 <shachaf> Look
09:30:57 <tswett> You can define a finite ring. You can't define an infinite ring, but you can define a finite presentation of a ring.
09:32:15 <tswett> And that's a lot like being able to define any finitely presented ring.
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10:34:21 <izabera> `` cp /bin/ls .; file ls
10:34:37 <HackEgo> ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped
10:34:43 <izabera> `` dd bs=1 seek=7 conv=notrunc count=1 of=ls status=none <<< $'\3'; file ls
10:34:45 <HackEgo> dd: invalid status flag: `none' \ Try `dd --help' for more information. \ ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped
10:34:54 <izabera> `` dd bs=1 seek=7 conv=notrunc count=1 of=ls 2>/dev/null <<< $'\3'; file ls
10:34:58 <HackEgo> ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x55f1e005df252708d4c456dcc2c7dccea1006553, stripped
10:35:13 <izabera> `` ./ls -l ls
10:35:15 <HackEgo> ​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 114032 Jul 2 09:34 ls
10:36:52 <izabera> all the elf files in my system are (SYSV) instead of (GNU/Linux)
10:52:44 <int-e> Haha. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-glibc/2001-05/msg00169.html ... anyway, "If the object file does not use any extensions, it is recommended that this byte be set to 0."
10:53:00 <int-e> (the latter quote is from https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/elf/gabi4+/ch4.eheader.html )
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12:17:22 <hppavilion[2]> The John Byrne modern-age Superman has canon regarding his facial hair
12:17:35 <hppavilion[2]> It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off
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12:44:47 <izabera> thanks for the link int-e
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13:14:11 <hppavilion[2]> The Imperinatus! (Starring Harrison Fnord)
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17:14:49 <hppavilion[2]> The Y Chromosome: The human condition's expansion pack
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17:49:00 <hppavilion[2]> Trump 0 AA!
17:49:06 <hppavilion[2]> (AA = After Apocalypse)
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18:27:02 <izabera> is nobody going to talk about lwan? https://lwan.ws/
18:27:28 <izabera> people are talking about it right now literally in every other channel on freenode
18:31:26 <myname> so it's like nginx as a library?
18:32:13 <alercah> none of the channels I'm in are talking about it
18:32:21 <myname> dito
18:32:43 <myname> also, i would recommend to stay as far away from web development as possible
18:32:49 <alercah> ^
18:32:53 <alercah> nothing good can come of it
18:32:59 <alercah> try googling lolphp
18:33:12 <myname> i did php
18:33:57 <alercah> is there a channel mode we can set to quarantine you?
18:34:14 <izabera> /set mode -php
18:39:31 <lifthrasiir> any server solution beyond 10,000 RPS is only useful when you are dealing with more than 10,000,000 RPS
18:39:40 <lifthrasiir> not worth trying otherwise
18:40:09 <lifthrasiir> (generally they come with severe trade-offs)
18:56:04 <tswett> Let's talk about toonemes!
18:56:34 <tswett> In cartooning, a tooneme is a component of a drawing which comprises the smallest cartonically meaningful unit.
18:57:08 <tswett> Usually, one single line.
18:59:26 <tswett> One eyebrow, one eyelid, one contour mark of whatever kind.
19:00:34 <tswett> http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1209 – look at all those toonemes!
19:02:19 <tswett> There are some interesting toonemes in between the eyebrows in panel 6. Three of them.
19:03:45 <tswett> "Angry forehead wrinkles", I suppose.
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20:34:47 <moon_> Moo
20:47:46 <\oren\> baaa
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21:26:21 <quintopia> hey
21:26:28 <ais523> hi
21:28:59 <quintopia> what do you do these days
21:30:03 <ais523> research compiler development, for about a month
21:30:16 <ais523> but I'm looking for a new job, this one's a fixed-term contract that expires soon
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21:32:06 <quintopia> find me one while you're at it ;P
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22:18:04 <zzo38> In this Dungeons&Dragons game story is one ogre is always cheating at dice (the dice are loaded so one always comes up 5 and the other one always comes up 2). We hear some ogre talking about one of them cheating at dice and one of them doubts it. To reverse the cheating, rub out the four corner dots of the five. Now they are certain to always lose at dice.
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00:18:00 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] <hppavilion[2]> It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it...
00:18:00 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:18:38 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] Don't remember which age superman it was, though.
00:18:38 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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00:25:42 <oerjan> note to self (after checking wiktionary): do _not_ porthello moon in a particular obvious way.
00:26:28 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ...I can't find that particular way
00:26:37 <oerjan> (helloon is also a bit dubious, come to think of it)
00:26:39 <hppavilion[1]> It's not helloon and it's not melloon
00:26:45 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: hoon hth
00:26:47 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-houd
00:26:47 <lambdabot> oerjan said 8m 47s ago: <hppavilion[2]> It grows normally, and he has to heat vision a reflective surface to zap it off <-- i vaguely recall at some point seeing/reading that he used a reflective piece from the spaceship that brought him to Earth, presumably because Earth materials couldn't take it...
00:26:47 <lambdabot> oerjan said 8m 9s ago: Don't remember which age superman it was, though.
00:26:49 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
00:27:36 <oerjan> hippavilion[1] btw, that one's very wholesome.
00:28:13 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Well if we use the dated meaning, then it becomes potentially complimentary
00:28:24 <hppavilion[1]> Probably because english doesn't use square brackets in words
00:28:54 <oerjan> i... don't think so.
00:29:04 <oerjan> pimp is not a compliment hth
00:29:21 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: It is in some circles
00:29:32 <hppavilion[1]> Or, at least, it's a positive-connotation verb
00:29:43 <hppavilion[1]> e.g. "Pimp My Ride"
00:30:03 <oerjan> the noun is not hth
00:30:30 <hppavilion[1]> And the origin of "pimp" is "Perhaps from Middle French pimpant ‎(“smart, sparkish”)."
00:30:42 <oerjan> i suppose Etymology 4 is fine.
00:30:53 <hppavilion[1]> "(African American Vernacular slang) A man who can easily attract women."
00:31:13 <hppavilion[1]> I suppose that one is good? Assuming that we don't consider that to be a douchebaggy trait to emphasize?
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00:31:29 <oerjan> i think only African Americans can safely use that slang hth
00:31:56 <hppavilion[1]> True
00:31:58 <hppavilion[1]> But still
00:32:30 <hppavilion[1]> (This is one of the few contexts where "African American" is appropriate- when referring specifically to people of African descent living in the US)
00:32:32 <oerjan> sounds like one of those things which could get you an SJW internet lynching
00:32:41 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, probably
00:32:56 <hppavilion[1]> Then again, most things can
00:33:03 <hppavilion[1]> src: Dictionarygate
00:33:27 <oerjan> i probably missed that one.
00:33:57 <oerjan> i guess i've missed most of them, by the simple expediment of not reading such fora.
00:34:08 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Some of the example sentences in OED referenced women, and others attributed jobs like "doctor" to men
00:34:10 <oerjan> exception, the aaronson one.
00:34:38 <hppavilion[1]> ("radical" had the example "A radical feminist" and most traditionally-male jobs used masculine pronouns)
00:34:41 <oerjan> well the OED is like ancient
00:35:05 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, their choices in example sentences may not be optimal, but it's not really important enough to get angry about
00:35:48 <oerjan> offensingularity
00:35:50 <hppavilion[1]> It's like if the constitution used "negro" to refer to blacks- it's not exactly what we would prefer, but it'd be too much trouble to change it for too little gain
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00:36:35 <oerjan> "if"? i thought it did so? although in an obsolete part
00:36:41 <oerjan> (the US one)
00:37:04 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: "pimp" is also five in Cumbrian and Welsh sheep counting
00:37:07 <hppavilion[1]> Well, it might
00:37:13 <hppavilion[1]> I didn't check for the purposes of the analogy
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00:37:50 <oerjan> oh it didn't.
00:37:57 <oerjan> it mentions Indians.
00:38:12 <oerjan> well, in the 3/5 paragraph i remembered.
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00:38:25 <oerjan> and there's probably no reason to mention it otherwise.
00:38:52 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, probablt
00:38:54 <hppavilion[1]> *probably
00:39:05 <hppavilion[1]> Well, maybe in one of the ammendments regarding voting?
00:40:00 <hppavilion[1]> But then again, they wouldn't really have reason to reference any one race in particular
00:41:35 <oerjan> neither the 13th or the 14th does, it seems.
00:42:33 <oerjan> i noticed a mentioned in the 14th article that it had been interpreted to include other races
00:42:37 <oerjan> *mention
00:43:27 <hppavilion[1]> A lot of people were against https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment#Text on the grounds that... it didn't allow women to have special rights for being women (e.g. working conditions or hours)
00:44:28 <oerjan> oh i didn't know the original only had 7 articles
00:44:53 <hppavilion[1]> Does #esoteric have a constitution for some reason? I can see it existing
00:44:58 <hppavilion[1]> Or, well, I can see a hacker constitution
00:45:07 <oerjan> nope
00:46:16 <oerjan> no hits in https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America
00:47:06 <hppavilion[1]> fungot is, of course, supreme overlord of #esoteric
00:47:07 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: mr president, i read the sterling report of the working classes or financial support to the commission transferring all the unused appropriations from budget line fnord of the treaty, and we had to follow in all the directorates-general, and possibly modifying, the technical negotiations for the community's policy on mainstream and gender issues in development policy, of all the stages in the support of this roun
00:47:17 <hppavilion[1]> And if fne ever manages to say something coherent, it is binding
00:49:17 <oerjan> careful with that. there are some nasty things in the ct style.
00:49:24 <oerjan> ^style ct
00:49:24 <fungot> Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script)
00:49:48 <oerjan> fungot: who will bring an end to all?
00:49:48 <fungot> oerjan: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez!
00:50:29 <oerjan> fungot: are you saying the sword will stop the world?
00:50:29 <fungot> oerjan: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. like that piano player. everyone's...! ...and the dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope.
00:50:42 <\oren\> Elon musk doesn't count as an african american for ... reasons
00:54:11 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Well, he's south african-born, but there are white people in South Africa (see: Apartheid)
00:54:24 <hppavilion[1]> He's Canadian-American, which is probably as white as you can get
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00:55:36 <hppavilion[1]> And he's probably also martian?
00:57:07 <hppavilion[1]> Aliens/Life on mars, but it's just Elon Musk, somehow/Life-related chemicals/Cool extremophiles found on earth/No aliens
00:57:43 <hppavilion[1]> (Theory: Elon Musk used the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" meme, then realized he was rich enough to actually do it)
00:58:49 <\oren\> one day I'll retire to the Moon
00:59:13 <\oren\> or at least take a long vacation there
01:02:03 * hppavilion[1] stealthily opens wikipedia/retirement to find potential jokes
01:02:42 <hppavilion[1]> Well, the first one is "It's a shame, he was just a day from being put in a metal box and exploded off the surface of the earth"
01:03:49 <zzo38> The software "Astrolog" does not allow you to center a horoscope on the Moon. Other software may allow it I don't know; something based on Swiss Ephemeris may allow you to then subtract the numbers and convert to polar coordinates and therefore you can make the calculation relative to Moon. Neither of these software can calculate house positions relative to anything other than the Earth though. (If you select heliocentric mode in Astrolog, it stil
01:04:47 <hppavilion[1]> In thailand, you retire at 60 (or 50 if you retire early)
01:05:01 <hppavilion[1]> Wow, the US is terrible
01:05:10 <hppavilion[1]> We have 5% employment at the ages of 70+
01:05:11 <zzo38> But house positions relative to Sun should be possible if you can know where is the zero longitude on the surface of the Sun. Do you know where the zero longitude of Sun is?
01:06:44 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38 seems to be turning into fungot, but more coherent
01:06:44 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: cyrus! are you leaving! thou art and science... all to you!
01:11:45 <hppavilion[1]> Huh... rap music and discrete mathematics are similar in that the phrase "for reals" is frequently used...
01:12:41 <zzo38> I do not have a lot of interest in rap music so I would not know, but OK now we can know!
01:15:34 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: I believe Norway encourages people to continue working after retirement.
01:15:42 <shachaf> You'll have to ask oerjan to confirm that, though.
01:16:58 <shachaf> i,i http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/158414-america-is-the-wealthiest-nation-on-earth-but-its-people
01:19:15 <shachaf> Going by US tax law, retirement age is 59½ or greater.
01:25:17 <oerjan> `? zzo38
01:25:50 <HackEgo> zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem.
01:26:02 <oerjan> shachaf: they're also in the process of removing the upper age limits.
01:26:04 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: ^
01:26:19 <oerjan> the involuntary ones, that is.
01:26:38 <shachaf> What involuntary limtis?
01:26:59 <hppavilion[1]> Norway: The opposite of North Korea
01:27:06 <oerjan> once you reach ... it may be 67? ... your employer can fire you for no reason.
01:27:14 <oerjan> even if you don't wish to retire.
01:27:44 <hppavilion[1]> I'm surprised all the other ISISes haven't changed their names yet
01:27:55 <hppavilion[1]> (e.g. the Institute for Science and International Security)
01:28:02 <shachaf> oerjan: Ah.
01:28:06 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: well the egyptian goddess probably just sneers at the idea hth
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01:28:09 <shachaf> In the US your employer can fire you for no reason at any time.
01:28:32 <oerjan> i've heard.
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01:29:00 <hppavilion[1]> In Zimbabwe, you don't have an employer
01:29:40 <zzo38> It would help to change their name to help to distinguish them, so that you will not confuse one with other, but in the correct contexts it can be clear. For Egyptian gods you can write "Isis" without capitalizing all of the letters, so that is not the problem.
01:30:08 <oerjan> in fact, i think your employment automatically expires then, unless you _explicitly_ get an agreement to continue. although my memory is not reliable on the details.
01:30:22 <oerjan> (in norway)
01:30:50 <pikhq> shachaf: Depends on the state actually.
01:32:00 <pikhq> ... And technically (but uselessly), they can only fire you for non-discriminatory reasons.
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01:32:22 <pikhq> (but do not have to say why they're firing you)
01:32:22 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: The general rule is that they can, unless the particular state says otherwise
01:32:42 <shachaf> pikhq: I said "for no reason, not "for any reason".
01:32:51 <pikhq> Ah, yes.
01:33:05 <hppavilion[1]> "Bammert v. Don's Super Valu, Inc., 646 N.W.2d 365 (Wis. 2002) the Wisconsin Supreme Court held that it was not contrary to public policy for an employer to dismiss an employee on grounds of her husband's drunk driving charge"
01:33:14 <pikhq> In most of the US but not all of it, it is literally legal to fire someone on the basis of "because".
01:33:39 <shachaf> And why not?
01:34:20 <shachaf> You might say: In some of the US, it is literally illegal to stop paying someone money unless you have good reason.
01:34:24 <shachaf> a
01:34:37 <shachaf> I pressed ^J instead of ^K while editing that sentence.
01:35:39 <shachaf> Anyway, I think California employment law is considered pretty employee-friendly in many ways.
01:35:45 <shachaf> But at-will employment is still standard here.
01:36:38 <pikhq> As with most things in labor relations, it's complicated, and any particular setup has pros and cons, and what's the best depends on a lot of things...
01:36:39 <oerjan> this is the kind of stuff that makes americans sound like space aliens to me.
01:37:03 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG
01:37:17 <oerjan> but then, lately norwegians do too so...
01:37:35 <shachaf> oerjan: What would be a less space-alien way of doing things?
01:37:38 <pikhq> Buuut, well. Employers tend to be bargaining from an incredibly advantageous position, that employees are not, and as such it can make sense to limit the power that an employer has over their employees.
01:38:07 <pikhq> Limiting reasons that an employer can dismiss an employee seems like reasonable in that light.
01:38:15 <oerjan> shachaf: actually trying to get a proper balance of power between employers and employees?
01:38:20 <hppavilion[1]> Personally, I think it makes the most sense to vaporize troublesome employees from orbit
01:39:25 <shachaf> That sounds good.
01:39:41 <oerjan> and also, employees actually cooperating in order not to get abused.
01:39:53 <oerjan> (aka unions)
01:40:08 <hppavilion[1]> We should scrap unions and use intersections instead
01:41:54 <zzo38> I think that some things that some things that employers would put in the contract to work should be prohibited, that both sides should be allowed to terminate employment at any time for any reason, and that minimum wage should be decreased to zero.
01:42:16 <oerjan> . o O ( stand here in the middle of this intersection until you agree to pay us properly )
01:43:13 <shachaf> zzo38: Why not decrease the minimum wage to a negative amount?
01:44:05 <oerjan> i think that zzo38 doesn't understand how power imbalance works.
01:44:35 <zzo38> Because it is not necessary and will not help. However, it can still be possible to lose money due to having to pay for parking and various other kind of services and products and so on. But the wages themself should not be allowed to be negative; the minimum should be zero.
01:44:50 * pikhq notes that oerjan is in a country without a minimum wage. :P
01:44:57 <oerjan> pikhq: heh
01:45:19 <pikhq> Though you're also in a country where unions are sufficiently strong that this is really a technicality.
01:46:11 <oerjan> yes. also we have a law (against "social dumping") which in certain cases allows enforcing union tariffs on non-unionized workers in an industry.
01:46:30 <oerjan> it's e.g. been used in construction
01:46:48 <shachaf> Isn't that just "ionized"?
01:46:56 <oerjan> MAYBE
01:51:20 <oerjan> no.wikipedia lists for 2012: construction, ship building, agriculture and cleaning services
01:52:09 <oerjan> (these are industries with major foreign workers and a history of abuse)
01:52:20 <oerjan> er
01:52:29 <oerjan> *a major amount of
01:53:21 <oerjan> (the term is "Allmengjøring" and there's no english article)
01:53:32 <oerjan> *nn
01:59:59 <shachaf> oerjan: but have you considered the benefits that large companies see from exploiting workers
02:02:01 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
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02:11:13 <shachaf> anyway i don't even know what to think about unions
02:16:50 <FreeFull> What do you think about intersections?
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02:47:07 <zzo38> `danddreclist 80
02:47:11 <HackEgo> danddreclist 80: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex
02:47:27 <shachaf> lynn: should danddreclist be edited twh
02:48:17 <lynn> I never end up reading the updates these days anyway. ;-;
02:48:26 <shachaf> hynn
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02:50:08 <quintopia> hello
02:50:21 <zzo38> You can edit them by yourself if you want to though
02:50:46 <shachaf> Edit whom by yourself?
02:50:56 <lynn> I forget the command to do so, so...
02:50:59 <zzo38> Edit the danddreclist if you want to
02:51:12 <zzo38> (It looks OK to me though)
02:51:19 <quintopia> zzo38: if they are carved pips, scratching out the paint won't change the apparent value of the die...
02:51:38 <oerjan> lynn: `sled hth
02:52:06 <zzo38> quintopia: O, well, I don't know if it is carved pips or not, but because of what it says in the footnote (that I wrote), I will assume (for now) that they are not carved.
02:52:41 <zzo38> (Actually, footnotes have nothing to do with it)
02:52:46 <zzo38> (It is in the main text.)
02:54:31 <zzo38> The dice are big dice that can be used by ogres, so I don't know exactly its working
02:56:12 <quintopia> zzo38: they are these: http://www.orientaltrading.com/web/browse/processProductsCatalog?Nrpp=10000&sku=13674060&BP=PS490&ms=search&source=google&cm_mmc=Google-_-242030648-_-20452920848-_-Garden+Dice+Game&cm_mmca1=OTC%2BPLAs&cm_mmca2=GooglePLAs&cm_mmca3=PS490&cm_mmca4=FS39&cm_mmca5=Shopping&cm_mmca6=PLAs&cm_mmc10=Shopping&cm_mmca11=13674060&cm_mmca12=Garden+Dice+Game&gclid=CjwKEAjwzN27BRDFn9aAwLmH2yISJABWuEXcklu0LsVX_D0rO6w1wyL-46YQoJ7oKATadMn
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02:56:48 <zzo38> Why does it have so many query parameters?
02:57:05 <quintopia> http://goo.gl/MGm5FU
02:57:43 <zzo38> I tried omitting cm_mcca1 and everything after it and still found the page anyways.
02:58:03 <zzo38> Those dice do not look like carved pips to me as far as I can tell.
02:58:20 <shachaf> quintopia: whoa whoa whoa, posting url shorteners in irc for no reason is a bit rude
02:58:34 <zzo38> So if the dice are like those ones, then removing some of the dots should work
02:59:06 <quintopia> shachaf: i had a reason
02:59:09 <quintopia> zzo38: yes exactly
02:59:12 <pikhq> Those look like fairly large foam dice, TBH.
02:59:17 <quintopia> they are wood
02:59:22 <pikhq> Huh.
02:59:28 <shachaf> Why not just post the canonical link, <http://www.orientaltrading.com/garden-dice-game-a2-13674060.fltr>?
02:59:30 <pikhq> So they are.
02:59:36 <zzo38> It says right there, it is wood
02:59:57 <quintopia> shachaf: because i didn't know how much i could delete without it going somewhere else, so it's easier just to click the url shortener button
03:00:11 <shachaf> There's a canonical URL right in the page.
03:00:20 <shachaf> <link rel="canonical"
03:00:45 <quintopia> this concept of a canonical url is not one i'm familiar with
03:00:58 <quintopia> also the concept of a shortened url being rude in irc
03:01:26 <shachaf> A URL shortener is rude in IRC because it could lead to a shock site, for instance.
03:01:35 <pikhq> My browser doesn't seem fond of showing me the canonical URL.
03:01:55 <shachaf> Oh, well, I have a bookmarklet that takes me to the canonical URL for the current page.
03:01:55 <pikhq> Do you have an extension for that, shachaf?
03:02:04 <zzo38> I think that URL shortener should not be used unless the full URL is unusable for some reason.
03:02:08 <pikhq> Ah.
03:02:12 <quintopia> shachaf: that would imply linking to a shock site via shortened url is rude, not that shortened urls are rude in themselves
03:02:32 <shachaf> Well, linking to a shock site via any mechanism is rude.
03:02:32 <zzo38> (Independent of whether the URL shortening is posted on IRC or elsewhere)
03:02:40 <quintopia> true true
03:03:04 <shachaf> But a URL shortener, unnecessarily used, makes peoeple worry.
03:05:54 <pikhq> It'd be nice if browsers actually had an interface for rel=canonical, rather than needing a bookmarklet or extension.
03:06:11 <shachaf> I agree.
03:06:59 <zzo38> Possibly something can be done by use of userChrome.js or whatever, to apply the way to add a menu that will list all of the rel= links
03:08:07 <shachaf> Yes, adding some user chrome would solve pikhq's problem perfectly.
03:22:58 <hppavilion[1]> I prefer a link shortener where all links go directly to goatse
03:24:14 <zzo38> That works if you want to link to goatse but does not work so well if you want to link to something else.
03:24:34 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: Yes, but I only ever want to link to goatse
03:24:43 <hppavilion[1]> Does anybody use link shorteners for anything but shock imagery?
03:25:17 <hppavilion[1]> To be clear, it should allow you to link to different goatse-serving sites
03:29:07 <hppavilion[1]> I found http://ponycountdown.com/
03:29:10 <hppavilion[1]> I'm stuck
03:29:33 <lynn> Is that goatse?
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03:30:44 <hppavilion[1]> lynn: No
03:30:47 <hppavilion[1]> lynn: Not yet, at least
03:31:54 <shachaf> lynn: do you have any "fancy new automata facts" twh
03:32:52 <lynn> "No" :(
03:36:44 <shachaf> how about "fancy new lynn facts"
03:37:35 <oerjan> <quintopia> shachaf: that would imply linking to a shock site via shortened url is rude, not that shortened urls are rude in themselves <-- no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites.
03:37:49 <shachaf> right
03:38:09 <hppavilion[1]> Wow, if you click Twilight it counts in planck time
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03:49:21 * oerjan notes that wikipedia's featured article contains real life retirony
03:50:01 <shachaf> Irony about retirement?
03:50:10 <oerjan> it's a tvtrope
03:51:20 <oerjan> basically in any action movie, the life expectancy of any character drops badly if it is ever mentioned that they're just about to retire.
03:51:49 <hppavilion[1]> I'm never going to retire. Ever.
03:51:59 <oerjan> good plan.
03:53:20 * oerjan has the impression tvtropes has recently improved their site design. istr it went through a period it was pretty atrocious.
03:54:00 <oerjan> or maybe i'm confusing with wikia, which still is.
03:54:31 <pikhq> TVtropes hasn't *significantly* changed their site design at all.
03:54:32 <oerjan> *+when
03:54:37 <pikhq> I mean, it's changed, but not hugely.
03:58:33 <shachaf> oerjan: What if they mention that they've already retired?
03:58:42 <shachaf> And that they won't do their job maintaining the wisdom database?
03:58:55 <shachaf> What happens to their life expectancy then?
04:02:07 <oerjan> skyrocketing hth
04:02:34 <shachaf> how does swatting affect life expectancy
04:02:45 <oerjan> not much unless you're a fly
04:03:45 <shachaf> i've never known a fly to swat anything
04:07:07 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Retiring from minor roles on IRC can result in death, but only minor death on IRC
04:07:52 <hppavilion[1]> (relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1437/)
04:07:57 <oerjan> shachaf: they have some trouble holding the swatter
04:08:17 <shachaf> how is that relevant to anything
04:08:24 <shachaf> it's just a comic strip
04:08:44 <oerjan> shachaf: hover text
04:09:15 <oerjan> still, the relevance is pretty minor
04:09:16 <shachaf> you don't need to link to a comic strip for every thought you have
04:10:05 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Correct; only the ones for which there is a relevant xkcd
04:10:26 <hppavilion[1]> Just be glad I'm not the supernatural fandom
04:10:28 <shachaf> no, even if that comic strip has something vaguely related, you don't need to link to it
04:10:44 <oerjan> shachaf: i'd link a comic for that comment but i cannot find one
04:11:06 <oerjan> hm...
04:11:43 <shachaf> just don't
04:12:31 <oerjan> all i can find is this reddit link hth https://www.reddit.com/r/RelevantXKCD/comments/24duue/looking_for_an_xkcd_about_how_theres_always_a/
04:12:58 <shachaf> i'm not going to click on that
04:13:04 <shachaf> i asked you not to even do it
04:13:10 <oerjan> don't worry, they didn't actually find one.
04:13:30 <oerjan> well i didn't link to a comic.
04:13:40 <shachaf> is this some sort of cult of personality or what
04:13:48 <oerjan> what is
04:14:20 <oerjan> well the subreddit is of course about how there's always a relevant xkcd.
04:14:29 <shachaf> the whole phenomenon
04:14:55 <shachaf> every time someone talks about sql injection someone links to that annoying bobby comic
04:14:55 <oerjan> yeah
04:15:34 <shachaf> as if that comic invented sql injection
04:15:34 <oerjan> . o O ( is there an xkcd comic about people getting tired of memes )
04:22:22 <hppavilion[1]> Perl Harbor
04:23:01 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: That's what I was looking for
04:23:07 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: There's the meme density one?
04:23:25 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Oh! The one where he saves old memes to use them again when everyone's forgotten!
04:26:50 <hppavilion[1]> Does HTCPCP support unfalsifiable claims?
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05:03:35 <hppavilion[1]> Polygraphs aren't very good
05:03:40 <hppavilion[1]> We should upgrade to omnigraphs
05:05:49 <shachaf> I know some good monographs.
05:05:55 <shachaf> So you're probably going in the wrong direction.
05:07:05 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: What about nilgraphs?
05:07:08 <oerjan> besides you are mixing greek and latin again
05:07:22 <shachaf> oerjan: That's OK, English mixes Greek and Latin all the time.
05:07:27 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: "hexadecimal"
05:07:39 * oerjan swats you both -----###
05:07:48 <shachaf> hey
05:07:55 <shachaf> half the fun of a swat is getting hilighted tdnh
05:08:51 * oerjan swats whoever invented "hexadecimal" in absentia -----###
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05:10:56 <oerjan> shaving ->
05:11:23 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
05:11:36 <shachaf> oerjan shaves?
05:12:04 <oerjan> it happens
05:12:11 <oerjan> every day or two
05:12:24 <oerjan> ->
05:12:53 <shachaf> oerjan: how do you feel about people pronouncing the 'j' in your name as 'zh'
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05:50:50 <Cale> also what about 'h'?
05:58:15 <izabera> what do i pass as a size to __builtin_apply in gcc with vararg functions?
06:06:59 <oerjan> shachaf: infidels!
06:08:24 <oerjan> Cale: no such thing.
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06:54:00 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I'm pretty sure "oerjan" is the IPA spelling hth
06:54:26 <hppavilion[1]> . o O ( I wonder if there are any easter eggs hidden in the IPA )
06:57:13 <oerjan> i'm pretty sure you're wrong hth
06:57:36 <oerjan> i think only the j and n are right.
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07:03:24 <hppavilion[1]> Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn seems best-pronounced in a Schwarzenegger voice
07:04:18 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, there's "Mr. Universe" but no "Dr. Multiverse"
07:04:22 <hppavilion[1]> I see an opening
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09:24:26 <izabera> `unidecode 💜🌺
09:24:37 <izabera> `unidecode 👀🍻
09:24:41 <HackEgo> U+1F49C PURPLE HEART \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 9c UTF-16BE: d83ddc9c Decimal: &#128156; \ 💜 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F33A HIBISCUS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c ba UTF-16BE: d83cdf3a Decimal: &#127802; \ 🌺 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
09:24:51 <HackEgo> U+1F440 EYES \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 80 UTF-16BE: d83ddc40 Decimal: &#128064; \ 👀 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F37B CLINKING BEER MUGS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8d bb UTF-16BE: d83cdf7b Decimal: &#127867; \ 🍻 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
09:27:28 <oerjan> `? sheaf
09:27:30 <HackEgo> sheaf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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10:00:12 <izabera> did you know that the posters for toy story 3 and harry potter the deathly hallows 2 don't have the title of the movie on them?
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11:16:23 <hppavilion[1]> <hppavilion[1]> (We assume it's a real doctorate (no Doctors of Divination) from an accredited program and it isn't honourary)
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11:16:54 <hppavilion[1]> <hppavilion[1]> Fan-bearer on the Right Side of the King: An actual tutile
11:16:56 <hppavilion[1]> <hppavilion[1]> *title
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11:17:34 <hppavilion[1]> <hppavilion[1]> Women-only scholarships: The most sexist-ass bullshit I've ever seen
11:17:36 <hppavilion[1]> * FLHerne (
11:17:38 <hppavilion[1]> Fuck
11:17:40 <hppavilion[1]> Did that go through?
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12:31:27 <tswett> hppavilion[1]: guess what, I just vacated your state.
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12:47:22 <hppavilion[2]> tswett: Wat?
12:47:33 <hppavilion[2]> tswett: Which state?
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12:48:39 <tswett> Alaska.
12:50:28 <hppavilion[2]> tswett: Oh?
12:50:31 <hppavilion[2]> Vacated as in left?
12:51:11 <hppavilion[2]> I take it you went through our Series of Tubes Memorial Airport?
12:51:13 <int-e> tswett: hmm, did you leave behind any surprises?
12:51:55 <hppavilion[2]> I don't think anything e left would look out of place among anything else
12:53:05 <int-e> (it's a non-answerable question, of course; once revealed it would no longer be a surprise)
12:53:34 <hppavilion[2]> If I ever get to be in charge of a polygraph, I'm asking "Is the answer to this question no?"
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20:16:56 <myname> o.o
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20:39:08 <quintopia> @tell oerjan <oerjan> no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p
20:39:09 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
20:39:15 <moon_> moo
20:40:54 <quintopia> @tell oerjan it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes.
20:40:54 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
20:44:03 <quintopia> @tell oerjan or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there
20:44:03 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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23:07:30 <alercah> anyone have recommendations for a cross-device password manager?
23:15:26 <izabera> i just spent several hours trying to build a thing where the main shell script did something like this for every command: cmd > logfile 2>&1
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23:46:16 <oerjan> @messages-foul
23:46:17 <lambdabot> quintopia said 3h 7m 7s ago: <oerjan> no, you need to think more meta: it is rude to link unnecessarily in such a way that it cannot be followed by someone with a personal policy not to click on links that aren't obviously non-shock sites. <-- this seems obviously false. posting a shortened link and saying "this is a link to X" and it is should
23:46:17 <lambdabot> not be rude, unless trigger warnings are also rude. a link poster is not rude because someone else has a personal p
23:46:17 <lambdabot> quintopia said 3h 5m 22s ago: it should be the job of the person with the personal policy to paste the link into getlinkinfo.com if they want to see where the link goes.
23:46:17 <lambdabot> quintopia said 3h 2m 13s ago: or else, perhaps even easier, configure their terminal or browser to automatically send shortened links there
23:48:14 <oerjan> @tell quintopia i disagree. also it's your job to fix your client so your messages don't get cut off hth
23:48:14 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
23:50:20 <oerjan> @tell quintopia as a more general rule, it is rude to push work on several others that it is easier for you to do yourself.
23:50:21 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
23:50:41 * oerjan just _knows_ he'll get that one back.
23:50:51 <oerjan> (karmically)
23:52:03 <izabera> most systems have a max level of scripts they can run with a shebang
23:52:14 <izabera> at some point the kernel just returns ELOOP
23:52:23 <izabera> i just realized you can bypass this with /usr/bin/env
23:53:05 <oerjan> hm that reminds me
23:53:23 <oerjan> does HackEgo support running scripts as #! interpreters
23:53:30 <izabera> sure
23:53:43 <oerjan> hm that makes an idea i had much easier.
23:54:21 <oerjan> `cat bin/*input
23:54:32 <oerjan> buh
23:54:43 <HackEgo> cat: bin/*input: No such file or directory
23:54:46 <oerjan> `` cat bin/print*
23:54:52 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi
23:55:06 <oerjan> i wanted to make a version of that can be used as a #!
23:55:21 <izabera> else cat "$@"
23:55:32 <oerjan> no
23:55:33 <izabera> but then $# will never be 0
23:55:51 <oerjan> exactly
23:56:04 <izabera> add shift at the beginning
23:56:12 <oerjan> not quite
23:56:17 <izabera> y u no shift
23:56:28 <oerjan> well ok but i need to save what's shifted first
23:56:30 <oerjan> lessee
23:56:44 <izabera> var=$1; bro do you even shift
23:57:15 <oerjan> well ok just need to find out where the args go
23:57:25 <oerjan> `` ls bin/print*
23:57:29 <HackEgo> bin/print_args_or_input
23:58:06 <oerjan> and what to call the modified script
23:59:13 <oerjan> maybe just shebang_args_or_input
23:59:41 <oerjan> so it would be like #!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python
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00:00:04 <oerjan> and then it gets called with arguments python scriptfile restofargs
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00:02:16 <quintopia> oerjan: i'm suggesting a general metaethical principle that it not the purpose of etiquette and manners to compensate for the /choices/ of others. whether you want to do so should be a personal choice every time with no denigration if you choose not to
00:03:22 <quintopia> and i have yet to figure out an acceptable way to make my client treat too long messages the way i'd like them to be treated, so i'm willing to accept the occasional cut-off message
00:05:21 <oerjan> quintopia: isn't the entire purpose of etiquette and manners not to disturb people unintentionally?
00:05:42 <izabera> s/unintentionally//
00:05:47 <oerjan> you can of course do it if you _intend_ to, in which case you are allowed, but _still_ rude.
00:06:03 <quintopia> oerjan: no
00:06:05 <quintopia> it is not
00:06:07 <oerjan> quintopia: yes.
00:06:11 <oerjan> you are wrong hth
00:06:42 <quintopia> it is about establishing general principles that *everyone* is supposed to follow. societally enforced laws. a list of items which it is acceptable to refer to someone as rude for not obeying
00:07:02 <quintopia> in general we try to pick those items based on whether not doing them would disturb people unintentionally
00:07:14 <quintopia> but not disturbing people unintentionally goes well beyond manners and etiquette
00:07:33 <oerjan> hm
00:07:57 <quintopia> one thing that should never be on that list is "it should be my fault for doing something that i had absolutely no way of knowing would offend you"
00:09:07 <izabera> maybe hitler didn't know that holocaust would offend jews
00:11:27 <quintopia> maybe
00:11:45 <quintopia> he certainly kept doing it long after they made it clear to him
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00:26:44 <oerjan> `fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input
00:26:51 <HackEgo> 2016-07-03 23:26:39 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [126/126] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1]
00:27:01 <oerjan> `` mv she* bin
00:27:07 <HackEgo> No output.
00:27:14 <oerjan> `` chmod +x bin/she*
00:27:17 <HackEgo> No output.
00:27:31 <oerjan> ok now what was that python script
00:28:24 <oerjan> `` grep -l python bin
00:28:25 <HackEgo> grep: bin: Is a directory
00:28:29 <oerjan> `` grep -l python bin/*
00:28:36 <HackEgo> bin/cAt \ bin/CaT \ bin/distort \ bin/gs2c \ bin/gs2.py \ bin/gs2x \ bin/icode \ bin/json \ bin/loudly \ bin/loudlye \ bin/multicode \ bin/rainbow \ bin/rainwords \ bin/raw-url \ bin/toutf8 \ bin/unicode \ bin/unidecode \ bin/uniqs \ bin/url \ bin/wl \ bin/zalgo
00:29:00 <oerjan> rainbow it was
00:29:06 <oerjan> `head bin/rainbow
00:29:08 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p)
00:29:27 <oerjan> `rainbow test
00:29:43 <oerjan> `` echo test | rainbow
00:29:46 <oerjan> oh duh
00:29:55 <HackEgo> test
00:29:58 <HackEgo> No output.
00:30:48 <oerjan> `sled bin/rainbow//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python
00:30:54 <HackEgo> bin/rainbow//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p)
00:30:59 <oerjan> argh
00:31:12 <oerjan> now that was right
00:31:15 <oerjan> `rainbow test
00:31:18 <HackEgo> test
00:31:30 <oerjan> `` echo test | rainbow
00:31:33 <HackEgo> test
00:31:37 <oerjan> splendid
00:31:53 <oerjan> `head bin/rainwords
00:31:54 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w)
00:32:12 <oerjan> `` rainwords test </dev/null
00:32:13 <quintopia> is it random colors now
00:32:16 <HackEgo> No output.
00:32:23 <quintopia> `rainbow WHAT WILL ALL THE COLORS BE
00:32:25 <HackEgo> WHAT WILL ALL THE COLORS BE
00:32:32 <oerjan> quintopia: rainbow and rainwords is different
00:32:53 <oerjan> `sled bin/rainwords//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python
00:32:55 <HackEgo> bin/rainwords//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w)
00:33:06 <oerjan> `rainwords would you look at all this stuff
00:33:09 <HackEgo> would you look at all this stuff
00:33:39 <quintopia> is there one that does a smooth evenly distributed progression from red to purple
00:34:04 <quintopia> using all the color colors, not just those 7
00:34:15 <oerjan> `` zalgo test </dev/null
00:34:18 <HackEgo> No output.
00:34:30 <oerjan> `` echo test | zalgo
00:34:34 <HackEgo> t̶̃e҉̏s̝̀t̂ͧ
00:34:37 <oerjan> `head bin/zalgo
00:34:38 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/python \ import codecs,sys,random \ stdin=codecs.getreader("utf-8")(sys.stdin) \ stdout=codecs.getwriter("utf-8")(sys.stdout) \ x=[unichr(0x300+i) for i in range(0,112)+[393,2887]] \ def z(n,c): \ if c in ["\n"]+x: \ n=0 \ return u"".join(x[random.randrange(0,len(x))] for i in range(n)) \ stdout.write(u"".join(c+z(2,c) for c in st
00:34:52 <oerjan> `sled bin/zalgo//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python
00:34:54 <HackEgo> bin/zalgo//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import codecs,sys,random \ stdin=codecs.getreader("utf-8")(sys.stdin) \ stdout=codecs.getwriter("utf-8")(sys.stdout) \ x=[unichr(0x300+i) for i in range(0,112)+[393,2887]] \ def z(n,c): \ if c in ["\n"]+x: \ n=0 \ return u"".join(x[random.randrange(0,len(x))] for i in range(n)) \ stdout.w
00:35:01 <oerjan> `` zalgo test </dev/null
00:35:04 <HackEgo> t̃̅e͓͐s͎̓t̜̟
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00:38:06 <oerjan> <quintopia> using all the color colors, not just those 7 <-- not to my knowledge. does irc even allow that?
00:38:35 <oerjan> helloily
00:38:53 <quintopia> helloily ain't seen you here in a bit
00:38:55 <quintopia> what been up to
00:39:02 <boily> quinthellørjan!
00:39:11 <oerjan> `` loudly test </dev/null
00:39:14 <HackEgo> test
00:39:27 <boily> I was invaded by my parents! mahjong happened!
00:39:35 <oerjan> `` echo test | loudly
00:39:37 <HackEgo> test
00:39:43 <oerjan> that one seems to already work
00:39:49 <oerjan> `head bin/loudly
00:39:49 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, itertools, locale, locale \ inp = len(sys.argv) >= 2 and sys.argv[1] or raw_input() \ cyc = itertools.cycle(["\00304,09","\00309,04"]) \ print "".join(cyc.next() + c for c in unicode(inp, locale.getpreferredencoding())).encode(locale.getpreferredencoding())
00:40:14 <oerjan> `head bin/distort
00:40:14 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=330 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = ' \\ '.join(f.read().splitlines()) \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N]
00:40:37 <boily> is it possible to shoot ANSI escape codes over IRC?
00:40:40 <oerjan> hm that one actually uses files.
00:41:18 <oerjan> cannot change it backwards compatibly.
00:41:49 <oerjan> boily: are you complaining about my loud tests
00:42:21 <boily> no, I want more colours! :D
00:42:48 <oerjan> boily: probably, but do clients support them?
00:43:05 <oerjan> `` cAt test </dev/null
00:43:07 <HackEgo> No output.
00:43:24 <oerjan> hm wait that one obviously does files
00:44:32 <oerjan> `cat bin/wl
00:44:34 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/env python \ \ import os \ import sys \ import json \ import urllib2 \ \ proxy_handler = urllib2.ProxyHandler({'http': os.environ['http_proxy']}) \ opener = urllib2.build_opener(proxy_handler) \ urllib2.install_opener(opener) \ \ def lose(): \ print 'You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir!' \ sys.exit() \ \ def eels(): \
00:45:01 <oerjan> hm i don't think that one is relevant, or for that matter will work on HackEgo
00:45:34 <oerjan> `` grep -l perl bin/*
00:45:45 <shachaf> oerjan: The trouble with shebang_args_or_input is that you need a #! line, which means you need a newline
00:45:45 <HackEgo> bin/@ \ bin/asm \ bin/benvenuto \ bin/bienvenido \ bin/bienvenue \ bin/blessyou \ bin/card-by-name \ bin/ctof \ bin/culprits-ng \ bin/dis86 \ bin/en2sv \ bin/fromroman \ bin/ftoc \ bin/h \ bin/?h \ bin/h! \ bin/hatesgeo \ bin/?hh \ bin/hi \ bin/hyfinate \ bin/hyphenate.fi \ bin/jq \ bin/lastwisdoms \ bin/learn_append \ bin/len \ bin/len.pl \ bin/ma
00:45:52 <shachaf> Which means you can't use mk, as it currently exists.
00:46:07 <oerjan> shachaf: true, but it's intended for scripts are _already_ shebangs.
00:46:15 <oerjan> e.g. those python ones.
00:47:48 <oerjan> shachaf: i just made it because i was annoyed of them only working as pipes, and the usual print_args_or_input only works well with shell scripts.
00:47:57 <shachaf> Sure.
00:48:07 <shachaf> But mk should be jammed up to support newlines or something.
00:48:54 <oerjan> it's a little tricky because in my mind a main feature of mk is that you _don't_ need to escape stuff.
00:49:13 <shachaf> Right.
00:49:17 <shachaf> In my mind too.
00:49:35 <shachaf> I guess an alternative would be mk_append
00:49:40 <shachaf> So you mk one line at a time.
00:49:48 <oerjan> yeah
00:49:54 <shachaf> `blessyou ants
00:49:55 <HackEgo> Bless you, ants. Blants.
00:50:05 <oerjan> huh
00:50:13 <shachaf> Gesundheit, ants. Gesants.
00:51:17 <boily> `blessyou consonant
00:51:18 <HackEgo> Bless you, consonant. Blonsonant.
00:51:34 <boily> `blessyou ďiacritic
00:51:35 <HackEgo> Bless you, ďiacritic. Bliacritic.
00:51:43 <boily> `blessyou édiacritic
00:51:44 <HackEgo> Bless you, édiacritic. Bliacritic.
00:52:53 <shachaf> `blessyou wood
00:52:55 <HackEgo> Bless you, wood. Blood.
00:53:35 <shachaf> `blessyou night
00:53:39 <HackEgo> Bless you, night. Blight.
00:53:39 <oerjan> `` blessyou food # catholics are fond of this
00:53:40 <HackEgo> Bless you, food. Blood.
00:54:05 <shachaf> oerjan: Isn't it the wine that turns into blood, though?
00:54:09 <oerjan> MAyBE
00:54:56 <zzo38> They will say it does, and then admit there is no change, so how does that mean?
00:56:32 <oerjan> it's a mystery hth
00:57:36 * quintopia puts a pumpkin on boily's head
00:57:52 <oerjan> what now
00:57:53 <shachaf> is oerjan catholic
00:58:35 * boily has a pumpkin helmet ^^
00:58:59 <quintopia> i wonder is it about to rain
00:59:04 <quintopia> am i going to have to walk home in the rain
00:59:35 <shachaf> Wait, since when is zalgo written in Python?
00:59:38 <oerjan> shachaf: i'm a rather passive member of the norwegian church. except for that church election i mentioned a year or two ago.
00:59:46 <oerjan> shachaf: i dunno?
01:00:12 <shachaf> Apparently Jafet rewrote it?
01:00:47 <boily> @metar KATL
01:00:47 <lambdabot> KATL 032352Z 33007KT 10SM -RA SCT065TCU BKN100 BKN200 BKN250 29/19 A3003 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2246 RAB50 SLP159 TCU E-OHD-W & DSNT SE CB DSNT NE P0000 60000 T02940194 10367 20294 53006
01:00:55 <boily> &???
01:01:02 <oerjan> quintopia: that takes either umbrage or umbrella hth
01:01:27 <quintopia> oerjan: umbrellas provide umbrage. i will have neither tdnh
01:01:45 <shachaf> the dogs now howl
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01:08:01 <quintopia> yep it sure started raining
01:08:08 <quintopia> wonder when it stops
01:09:00 <quintopia> oh it's not gonna last long
01:11:45 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] <hppavilion[1]> Did that go through? <-- far too much of it hth
01:11:45 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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02:55:10 <moonythedwarf> moo
02:58:14 <oerjan> good mooning
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03:10:40 <shachaf> `wisdom
03:11:08 <HackEgo> nœd//Nœd is Norwegian for distress.
03:45:41 <zzo38> I was making a new toolkit library for X and this is one example program that works so far: http://sprunge.us/AQAd
03:46:38 <shachaf> zzo38: Do you have a program that automatically extracts code from "#if 0" and runs it?
03:48:02 <zzo38> The program "bash" will treat "#if 0" as a comment and stop once "exit" is reached, so that is what can be used
03:48:19 <shachaf> Ah, of course.
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06:01:34 <zzo38> This program makes a window with the title "Test!" and the mouse cursor shape is a eight-way arrow; when clicked it exits, the exit code tell which mouse button is pushed. Command-line arguments can be used to override the title, cursor shape, window size, and background colour.
06:02:40 <myname> most usefull program of all time?
06:02:59 <zzo38> It is just an example of this use and just a test; nor very useful.
06:03:29 <zzo38> (Normally you should use XwicCreateFormWindow (which additionally sets up the event handler automatically and populates the window with widgets and a few other things) rather than XwicCreateMainWindow, although XwicCreateFormWindow is not fully implemented yet.)
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06:04:50 <hppavilion[1]> If the Internet declared sovereignty and formed a government, what would its political structure be?
06:05:09 <hppavilion[1]> (We assume that the people on the internet lack physical bodies and are no longer part of their host nations)
06:05:15 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-houd
06:05:15 <lambdabot> oerjan said 4h 53m 30s ago: <hppavilion[1]> Did that go through? <-- far too much of it hth
06:05:22 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: sry
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06:19:40 <izabera> https://arin.ga/9UPuGZ/raw i just wrote this
06:20:06 <izabera> surely someone else came up with it before me
06:20:23 <izabera> but i've never seen it anywhere
06:20:30 <lifthrasiir> izabera: print("dang", NULL, "it");
06:20:51 <izabera> what would you expect it to print in that case?
06:21:21 <izabera> i'd expect it to either segfault or vomit junk
06:21:41 <izabera> so just don't pass null pointers to it
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06:44:41 <pikhq> izabera: You need to va_end(ap); at the end of that function.
06:45:04 <izabera> yes i do but my compiler ought to help me find stupid bugs like that
06:45:19 <pikhq> It should, yes, but it doesn't. Grumble!
06:45:21 <lifthrasiir> compiler is stupid :)
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07:02:27 <FreeFull> izabera: I could write a Rust macro that does the same thing
07:02:46 <izabera> you can't
07:02:57 <izabera> my license is proprietary
07:03:07 <izabera> i'll sue the shit out of you
07:04:23 <izabera> on a more serious note, what's the smallest amount of code you can copyright?
07:09:05 <FreeFull> izabera: https://is.gd/iqltum Too late
07:09:41 <izabera> lawyer up
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07:11:03 <FreeFull> Nah
07:12:42 <izabera> mine works with numbers too
07:12:47 <izabera> as long as they're in your address space
07:12:58 <izabera> and you can dereference them as pointer to char
07:13:45 <FreeFull> Mine works with any type that implements Display
07:15:25 <shachaf> hikhq
07:20:32 <FreeFull> I didn't even need va_end(ap);
07:20:47 <izabera> rust is so unfair
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07:40:30 <shachaf> `wisdom
07:40:43 <HackEgo> future//We know nothing about the future.
07:41:09 <izabera> i know what time it will be 1 minute in the future
07:42:06 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball Was a bounty hunter justified in shooting this man's dog?
07:42:08 <HackEgo> Outlook good.
07:42:12 <hppavilion[1]> Damn
07:42:15 <hppavilion[1]> I was hoping that would work
07:42:23 <hppavilion[1]> That's what happens when you rely on random chance to make a joke
07:42:50 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5mwymTIJU reflective of real Magic 8 balls?
07:42:51 <HackEgo> You may rely on it.
07:42:54 <izabera> you should have a joke ready for all possible outcomes
07:42:54 <hppavilion[1]> OK
07:43:03 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: Yeah, generally that's the case
07:43:17 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is literal horseshit tasty?
07:43:19 <HackEgo> Yes.
07:43:22 <hppavilion[1]> ...wow
07:43:40 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Justin Bieber a good singer?
07:43:40 <HackEgo> You may rely on it.
07:43:47 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Justin Timberlake a good singer?
07:43:48 <HackEgo> Concentrate and ask again.
07:43:50 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Justin Timberlake a good singer?
07:43:51 <HackEgo> It is certain.
07:44:02 <hppavilion[1]> (I'm just waiting for the right response to trigger)
07:44:09 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Miley Cyrus a good singer?
07:44:10 <HackEgo> Very doubtful.
07:44:14 <lifthrasiir> `8-ball is 8-ball working correctly?
07:44:17 <HackEgo> Outlook good.
07:44:19 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Hannah Montanna a good singer?
07:44:20 <HackEgo> It is certain.
07:44:29 <hppavilion[1]> `8-ball is Donald Trump a good singer?
07:44:29 <HackEgo> Holy shit, I can't believe you're even asking me. NO!
07:44:34 <hppavilion[1]> THERE we go
07:44:37 <lifthrasiir> `8-ball am I sane right now?
07:44:37 <HackEgo> Don't count on it.
07:44:51 <hppavilion[1]> It's a reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5mwymTIJU
07:44:55 <hppavilion[1]> For all wondering
07:45:13 <oerjan> `8-ball Is hppavilion[1] trying too hard?
07:45:14 <HackEgo> Yes definitely.
07:45:20 <oerjan> hth
07:45:29 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ty tdh
07:46:40 <oerjan> yw
08:06:37 <hppavilion[1]> What is the worst name for a US state (or other area) that a band could take?
08:06:49 <hppavilion[1]> My guess is US Virgin Islands
08:09:03 <\oren\> Virgin Islands sounds like a h-game title
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08:56:45 <b_jonas> how's it going?
08:59:41 <hppavilion[1]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins
09:01:39 <hppavilion[1]> United States v. Vampire Nation
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09:06:38 <b_jonas> it's Monday!
09:08:37 <lifthrasiir> it's been Monday for 17 hours here
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10:50:12 <b_jonas> `dateu
10:50:24 <b_jonas> wakey wakey HackEgo
10:51:02 <HackEgo> 2016-07-04 09:50:51.348726000+00:00
10:52:38 <izabera> `` cat bin/dateu
10:52:45 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n -u "$@"
10:52:51 <b_jonas> izabera: it has a pair, datei
10:52:56 <izabera> `` cat bin/datei
10:52:57 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n "$@"
10:53:03 <izabera> `datei
10:53:04 <HackEgo> 2016-07-04 09:52:56.239897000+00:00
10:53:21 <b_jonas> they do the same on HackEgo, because it has UTC as its default timezone,
10:53:24 <b_jonas> although you can still do
10:53:38 <izabera> i'm disappointed tho
10:53:44 <b_jonas> ``` TZ=Europe/Paris; dateu; datei
10:53:46 <HackEgo> 2016-07-04 09:53:38.753286000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 09:53:38.786882000+00:00
10:53:50 <b_jonas> izabera: why?
10:54:27 <b_jonas> (that didn't work)
10:54:54 <b_jonas> ``` TZ=:Europe/Paris; dateu; datei
10:54:56 <HackEgo> 2016-07-04 09:54:47.754040000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 09:54:47.788169000+00:00
10:55:01 <b_jonas> still no
10:55:22 <b_jonas> whatever
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11:25:03 <fizzie> ``` export TZ=Europe/Paris; dateu; datei
11:25:05 <HackEgo> 2016-07-04 10:24:56.472202000+00:00 \ 2016-07-04 12:24:56.495597000+02:00
11:25:06 <fizzie> b_jonas: ^
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11:31:36 <izabera> @work we have macros that end in try {
11:43:47 <b_jonas> fizzie: oh DUH
11:43:53 <b_jonas> I just don't know my bash
11:43:57 <b_jonas> thanks
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12:36:11 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:36:13 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:36:16 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:36:18 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:37:08 <HackEgo> No output.
12:37:15 <HackEgo> No output.
12:37:16 <HackEgo> space elevator//Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency.
12:37:16 <HackEgo> Vedalken AEthermage \ 1U \ Creature -- Vedalken Wizard \ 1/2 \ Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.) \ When Vedalken AEthermage enters the battlefield, return target Sliver to its owner's hand. \ Wizardcycling {3} ({3}, Discard this card: Search your library for a Wizard card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then
12:37:48 <b_jonas> that's one of the Time Spiral block ones, right?
12:38:07 <b_jonas> yup, FUT time shifted
12:38:40 <b_jonas> `random-card [a-z]cycling
12:38:43 <HackEgo> Jhessian Zombies \ 4UB \ Creature -- Zombie \ 2/4 \ Fear (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or black creatures.) \ Islandcycling {2}, swampcycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Search your library for an Island or Swamp card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.) \ ARB-C, DDH-C
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12:48:53 <izabera> they ported docker in go https://twitter.com/icecrime/status/730422482516082688
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13:04:36 <izabera> // replace \n with "" and trim
13:04:37 <izabera> replaceString("\n", "", lValue);
13:04:39 <izabera> trim(lValue);
13:05:03 <izabera> useful comments everywhere
13:13:13 <FireFly> Fun codebase
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16:20:56 <izabera1> handy: #define Sprintf(fmt, ...) ({ char *tmp; asprintf(&tmp, fmt, __VA_ARGS__); tmp; })
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16:35:08 <izabera> moar comments from work:
16:35:09 <izabera> Reboot the Solaris Server
16:35:11 <izabera> I know this sounds stupid, but even after restarting LDAP and enabling/starting/restarting the DNS client, things still didn’t work for me in the lab. However, after rebooting the Solaris server, it worked like a champ. So, just in case, reboot the Solaris server after completing the configuration.
16:37:44 <izabera> and we have a trash bin with a /dev/null label http://i.imgur.com/K3ncORb.jpg
16:39:59 <ais523> izabera: but reading from /dev/null gives EOF
16:40:06 <ais523> I don't think you can do that from a trashcan
16:40:20 <b_jonas> In today's xkcd, am I supposed to assume there's more explanation omitted between the last two panels?
16:40:21 <izabera> i sure am not gonna try
16:40:32 <b_jonas> hi, ais523
16:41:19 <ais523> b_jonas: I think so
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19:24:29 <\oren\> I hate C++
19:24:57 <izabera> i hate kids
19:24:59 <wob_jonas> `wisdom
19:25:00 <\oren\> it shouldn't be possible for it to have a type error in invisible code
19:25:21 <HackEgo> yeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeesh.
19:25:28 <wob_jonas> \oren\: you mean like in templates?
19:25:33 <\oren\> yeah
19:25:46 <wob_jonas> `wisdom
19:25:47 <\oren\> Somehow it generated a class with a type error
19:25:48 <HackEgo> mapole//A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
19:26:45 <wob_jonas> \oren\: um, I dunno, if you want a strong type system, wait like a few more years till rust gains better support for generics (e.g. generics parametrized by compile-time constant values rather than by types, etc) and maybe use that
19:27:18 <wob_jonas> or, like, try Haskell
19:27:34 <\oren\> Haskell has sucky support for imperative code
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19:29:29 <\oren\> I get how monads are "programmable semicolons" or whatever, but it would be nice if haskell had support for our normal semicolons that we've been using since 1970
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19:30:21 <wob_jonas> hehe, "programmable semicolons"
19:30:21 <wob_jonas> `? monads
19:30:25 <HackEgo> Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.
19:30:39 <wob_jonas> hmm, how to wisdom that
19:39:59 <int-e> `wisdom
19:40:02 <HackEgo> caffè//Caffè is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in Italy.
19:41:23 <\oren\> is there a library that adds a goto statement to Heskell?
19:42:27 <\oren\> actually I guess you would first need the ability to tell haskell what order to do things in
19:43:04 <\oren\> and then a simpler syntax for variables
19:43:19 <\oren\> (like, variable variables I mean)
19:44:49 <\oren\> Ooh, Control.Monad.Imperative
19:45:28 <\oren\> https://github.com/mmirman/ImperativeHaskell/blob/master/Main.hs
19:46:23 <wob_jonas> When do you refill the lemon-scented paper napkins?
19:46:48 <wob_jonas> \oren\: you know, a lot of imperative languages could actually do with having a goto added.
19:47:02 <wob_jonas> Eg. ruby, python, rust.
19:47:12 <wob_jonas> (I was surprised to learn that lua has a goto now.)
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20:01:21 <wob_jonas> `? napkin
20:01:23 <HackEgo> napkin? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:11:13 <moonythedwarf> hbot got klined and i cant find any freenode staff >_>
20:14:01 <wob_jonas> it turns out, it's lemon-soaked paper napkins instead
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20:36:45 <wob_jonas> `shashlearn napkin/A complement of small lemon-soaked paper napkins is essential for the comfort, refreshment, and hygiene of the passengers during the journey.
20:36:56 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shashlearn: not found
20:37:08 <wob_jonas> `slashlearn napkin/A complement of small lemon-soaked paper napkins is essential for the comfort, refreshment, and hygiene of the passengers during the journey.
20:37:15 <HackEgo> Learned «napkin»
20:39:10 <shachaf> What happened to putting the name of the thing at the beginning of the wisdom entry?
20:39:23 <shachaf> Also, why do you make those b_jonas-style wisdom entries?
20:41:52 <wob_jonas> dunno, they're sort of my style or something
20:42:40 <wob_jonas> besides, the statistical likelihood is, some day a civilization will arise, and then there will be small lemon-soaked paper napkins, and then there'll be a short delay before continuing your flight
20:44:36 <wob_jonas> `? cake
20:44:39 <HackEgo> The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake.
20:46:01 <wob_jonas> shachaf: do you have a good idea how to turn this one into a wisdom entry? I think it wouldn't be b_jonas-style => "<\oren\> I get how monads are "programmable semicolons" or whatever,"
20:46:15 <wob_jonas> the problem is, we already have a wisdom/monad
20:46:43 <shachaf> Not everything needs a wisdom entry.
20:47:11 <wob_jonas> maybe addquote it or something, how does that work?
20:47:20 <wob_jonas> `? addquote
20:47:21 <HackEgo> addquote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:48:06 <shachaf> Why?
20:48:43 <shachaf> Oh, you're thinking it was the first time it was said or something?
20:48:56 <shachaf> "programmable semicolons" is an old phrase.
20:49:10 <wob_jonas> is it?
20:49:15 <wob_jonas> `? programmable semicolons
20:49:16 <HackEgo> programmable semicolons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:49:22 <shachaf> @google "programmable semicolons"
20:49:23 <lambdabot> http://zacharyvoase.com/2014/04/30/monads/
20:49:24 <lambdabot> Title: Monads, or Programmable Semicolons | Zack’s Blog
20:49:47 <shachaf> I'm not a huge fan of it but it's been around for at least five years.
21:04:56 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I see
21:16:04 <\oren\> i'd prefer if languages like Haskell and C++ had fewer solutions to invented problems
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21:20:50 <\oren\> C++ could have made more operators like the new[] and delete[] operators and thus done away with the vector<> class
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21:45:02 <shachaf> C++ should have had something like vector instead of new[] and delete[]
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22:10:46 <\oren\> shachaf: right. if they had vector<> as a builtin that would also be good
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22:20:53 <shachaf> It's in the standard library.
22:21:00 <shachaf> Even better than built-in.
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23:37:22 <oerjan> @work hm
23:38:05 * oerjan noticed izabera accidentally doing @work in the logs, and lambdabot not responding
23:38:17 <oerjan> @werk
23:38:17 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: where vera
23:38:27 <oerjan> @worf
23:38:35 <oerjan> @word
23:38:42 <oerjan> @woom
23:38:42 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
23:38:49 <oerjan> @list word
23:38:49 <lambdabot> No module "word" loaded
23:38:53 <oerjan> @list work
23:38:53 <lambdabot> No module "work" loaded
23:38:58 <oerjan> @bork
23:39:03 <oerjan> @bork hi there
23:39:09 <oerjan> @bank
23:39:09 <lambdabot> Who should I ask?
23:39:13 <oerjan> wat
23:39:25 <oerjan> @worse
23:39:34 <oerjan> @worst
23:39:34 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
23:39:42 <oerjan> @wor
23:39:42 <lambdabot> world02 ..... CIA World Factbook 2002
23:39:49 <oerjan> @world
23:39:49 <lambdabot> world02 ..... CIA World Factbook 2002
23:39:53 <oerjan> @work
23:40:02 <oerjan> that's weird
23:40:12 <oerjan> @hork
23:40:20 <oerjan> @wock
23:40:20 <lambdabot> http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/index.html
23:40:32 <oerjan> @park
23:40:32 <lambdabot> Not enough privileges
23:40:38 <shachaf> :t (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
23:40:39 <lambdabot> (a -> a1 -> a2 -> b -> c) -> a -> a1 -> a2 -> (a3 -> b) -> a3 -> c
23:40:42 <shachaf> Hmm.
23:40:46 <shachaf> Foiled.
23:40:48 <oerjan> @pock
23:40:48 <lambdabot> http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/index.html
23:40:56 <shachaf> look
23:40:58 <shachaf> i've figured it out already
23:41:27 <shachaf> @djinn Maybe a -> Maybe b -> Maybe (a,b)
23:41:28 <lambdabot> f a b =
23:41:28 <lambdabot> case a of
23:41:28 <lambdabot> Nothing -> Nothing
23:41:28 <lambdabot> Just c -> case b of
23:41:28 <lambdabot> Nothing -> Nothing
23:41:30 <lambdabot> Just d -> Just (c, d)
23:41:37 <shachaf> @djinn Maybe a -> Maybe b -> Maybe c -> Maybe ((a,b),c)
23:41:37 <lambdabot> f a b c =
23:41:37 <lambdabot> case a of
23:41:37 <lambdabot> Nothing -> Nothing
23:41:38 <lambdabot> Just d -> case b of
23:41:40 <lambdabot> Nothing -> Nothing
23:41:42 <lambdabot> Just e -> case c of
23:41:44 <lambdabot> Nothing -> Nothing
23:41:46 <lambdabot> Just f -> Just ((d, e), f)
23:41:49 <shachaf> OK, never mind.
23:41:55 <shachaf> It's @more
23:42:02 <oerjan> ooh
23:42:07 <shachaf> But I don't know how to make lambdabot say a bunch of text.
23:42:11 <shachaf> @wn work
23:42:12 <lambdabot> *** "work" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
23:42:12 <lambdabot> work
23:42:12 <lambdabot> n 1: activity directed toward making or doing something; "she
23:42:12 <lambdabot> checked several points needing further work"
23:42:12 <lambdabot> 2: a product produced or accomplished through the effort or
23:42:14 <lambdabot> [112 @more lines]
23:42:16 <shachaf> @work
23:42:16 <lambdabot> activity or agency of a person or thing; "it is not regarded
23:42:16 <oerjan> @wook
23:42:18 <lambdabot> as one of his more memorable works"; "the symphony was hailed
23:42:20 <lambdabot> as an ingenious work"; "he was indebted to the pioneering
23:42:22 <lambdabot> work of John Dewey"; "the work of an active imagination";
23:42:24 <lambdabot> "erosion is the work of wind or water over time" [syn:
23:42:26 <lambdabot> [107 @more lines]
23:42:28 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
23:42:28 <shachaf> Sorry for the spam.
23:42:29 <oerjan> argh
23:42:45 <shachaf> I mean, I intended to spam, just not that much.
23:42:45 <oerjan> @moor
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23:44:03 <oerjan> @list bork
23:44:03 <lambdabot> No module "bork" loaded
23:45:06 <oerjan> oh right
23:45:43 <oerjan> @nerk
23:45:43 <lambdabot> vera ........ V.E.R.A.: Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms
23:45:56 <oerjan> hm that is weird
23:46:02 <oerjan> @list vera
23:46:02 <lambdabot> dict provides: dict-help all-dicts bouvier cide devils easton elements foldoc gazetteer hitchcock jargon thesaurus vera wn world02
23:46:05 <oerjan> @list more
23:46:06 <lambdabot> more provides: more
23:46:09 <oerjan> oh wait
23:46:23 <oerjan> wrong baseline
23:46:49 <oerjan> @woke
23:46:49 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: wiki vote more
23:46:52 <oerjan> finally
23:53:37 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Apparently, in the Harry Potter universe the Norwegian magic school teaches the Dark Arts as a class
23:54:04 <hppavilion[1]> (Well, it might be in Sweden; it pretty much just serves the whole of Scandinavia)
23:55:12 <oerjan> OKAY
2016-07-05
00:03:07 <hppavilion[1]> . o O ( As far as we know, #esoteric is full of wizards... )
00:03:47 <oerjan> itym wiseasses hth
00:16:02 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: Dark wizards
00:16:29 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: omniscientasses?
00:24:33 * oerjan swats hppavilion[1]. -0.3 shachafs. -----###
00:24:52 <hppavilion[1]> Worth it.
00:25:00 <oerjan> note the negative sign hth
00:25:11 <oerjan> because that was an anti-pun.
00:25:39 <oerjan> afk
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01:06:30 <moonythedwarf> anti-puns are for wimps, try a anti-anti-pun
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01:19:48 <oerjan> . o O ( evil idea: ban moon's non-nickname parts and then make ban exemptions only for moon@* and moon_@* )
01:20:42 <oerjan> or wait, is that moon_@* and moon__@*
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01:20:53 <\oren\> dammit moon-moon
01:23:07 <\oren\> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/534/248/7f5.jpg
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01:34:03 <shachaf> oerjan: Is that the same as 0.3 antishachafs?
01:34:41 <alercah> oerjan: doesn't freenode have a channel mode that prevents nick changes
01:35:01 <oerjan> shachaf: probably?
01:35:12 <shachaf> `welcome alercah
01:35:31 <oerjan> alercah: i don't remember, except that it's a side effect of banning
01:35:46 <HackEgo> alercah: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:35:56 <oerjan> alercah: also, it wasn't meant to apply to people _other_ than moon_ hth
01:36:30 <shachaf> I found out that Freenode lets you ban anyone who's banned in another channel.
01:36:42 <shachaf> I wonder whether that lets you get over the ban list length limit.
01:36:55 <oerjan> spiffy
01:36:57 <shachaf> They say it only works for one layer, i.e. $j: ignores $j:.
01:37:07 <alercah> shachaf: why doesn't someone make a channel that bans *!*@* then to make it useless?
01:37:24 <shachaf> I mean: In one channel you can ban $j:#other-channel
01:39:08 <alercah> ohh
01:41:56 <shachaf> oerjan: What's evil about that idea, anyway?
01:44:08 <oerjan> shachaf: it's mobbing
01:44:22 <shachaf> @wn mobbing?
01:44:23 <lambdabot> No match for "mobbing?".
01:44:24 <shachaf> oops
01:44:26 <shachaf> @wn mobbing
01:44:27 <lambdabot> No match for "mobbing".
01:44:44 <oerjan> i just checked on wikipedia that the word exists in english
01:44:47 <oerjan> hth
01:45:30 <shachaf> Ah.
01:45:40 <oerjan> "Shallcross, Ramsay and Barker consider workplace "mobbing" to be a generally unfamiliar term in some English speaking countries. Some researchers claim that mobbing is simply another name for bullying."
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01:45:53 <oerjan> i suppose it's not that widespread.
01:45:57 <shachaf> Well, if it's up to me, changing your nick all the time would be universally banned.
01:46:02 <oerjan> it's the standard term in norwegian.
01:46:26 <shachaf> Multiple pseudonyms are fine, anonymity is fine, etc.
01:47:46 <alercah> `relcome shachaf
01:47:55 <shachaf> `tervetuloa alercah
01:48:01 <HackEgo> shachaf: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:48:02 <HackEgo> alercah: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.)
01:53:42 <oerjan> `cat bin/tervetuloa
01:53:44 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.fi"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.fi"; }
01:54:37 <shachaf> `h irc.dahl.net
01:54:38 <HackEgo> Can't open irc.dahl.net: No such file or directory.
01:54:41 <shachaf> `cat bin/h
01:54:42 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/perl -p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig
01:55:08 <shachaf> oerjan: please fix h twh
01:55:22 <shachaf> (that would h)
01:57:24 <oerjan> `slwd welcome.fi//s,wiki/Main_page,,;s,kanav.*,kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.),
01:57:29 <HackEgo> wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.)
01:57:36 <oerjan> dammit
01:57:39 <oerjan> `revert
01:57:59 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
01:58:07 <oerjan> `slwd welcome.fi//s,wiki/Main_Page,,;s,kanav.*,kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.),
01:58:21 <HackEgo> wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.)
01:58:28 <shachaf> oerjan: since when do you speak finnish twh
02:00:03 <oerjan> shachaf: since never. also i just _knew_ i'd get trouble because yesterday script doesn't support that extra #! argument :(
02:00:11 <oerjan> *yesterday's
02:01:04 <oerjan> or wait hm
02:01:11 <oerjan> perl is special isn't it
02:01:58 <shachaf> oerjan: do you recommend joining a union
02:02:20 <oerjan> but not special enough.
02:02:35 <oerjan> shachaf: unions are already joins hth
02:02:55 <shachaf> have you met any union members
02:03:03 <shachaf> or is that against the rules
02:05:07 <oerjan> i don't remember anyone telling me if they were.
02:05:26 <oerjan> `` cat bin/has*
02:05:28 <HackEgo> cat: bin/has*: No such file or directory
02:05:46 <shachaf> perhaps you don't intersect them very often
02:05:51 <oerjan> `` ls bin/*input
02:05:55 <HackEgo> bin/print_args_or_input \ bin/shebang_args_or_input
02:06:11 <oerjan> `` cat bin/sheb*
02:06:12 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ interp="$1"; script="$2"; shift 2; if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi | "$interp" "$script"
02:06:25 <oerjan> shachaf: lattice drop the subject
02:07:08 <oerjan> ...
02:08:14 <oerjan> you can only have one shebang argument, right
02:08:40 <shachaf> yes
02:09:01 <oerjan> ok, there's an obvious, traditional solution here.
02:09:22 <oerjan> `cat bin/slashlearn
02:09:24 <HackEgo> sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»"
02:10:08 <oerjan> (by traditional i mean insane)
02:10:49 <shachaf> wait, what are you going to do
02:10:57 <shachaf> is this the part where i close my eyes
02:11:02 <shachaf> and/or you close your nose
02:20:07 <oerjan> `fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input
02:20:11 <HackEgo> 2016-07-05 01:20:01 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [133/133] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1]
02:20:28 <oerjan> `` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin
02:20:33 <HackEgo> No output.
02:20:37 <oerjan> `rainbow testing
02:20:40 <HackEgo> testing
02:20:51 <shachaf> `cat bin/shebang_args_or_input
02:20:52 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ interp="$1"; script="$2"; shift 2; if [ "$#" -gt 0 ]; then printf '%s\n' "$*"; else cat; fi | ${interp/"//"/ } "$script"
02:21:02 <shachaf> does that really require `fetch
02:21:13 <shachaf> wouldn't it be better to improve mk
02:21:38 <oerjan> shachaf: it requires `fetch because i tested it first hth
02:22:19 <oerjan> `sled bin/h//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl//-p
02:22:25 <HackEgo> bin/h//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl//-p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig
02:22:30 <oerjan> `h testing
02:22:31 <HackEgo> tehstihng
02:22:35 <oerjan> yw
02:22:41 <shachaf> oerjan: Of course, the motivation for // doesn't work here.
02:22:49 <shachaf> It only makes sense for paths.
02:22:55 <shachaf> The argument to perl isn't a path.
02:23:03 <shachaf> so now you need a way to escape // hth
02:23:05 <oerjan> shachaf: it works in that perl itself is a path
02:23:15 <oerjan> and also, it won't have more than one argument.
02:23:17 <shachaf> Well, sure.
02:23:24 <shachaf> But you could also just use space?
02:23:25 <oerjan> (assuming it's a converted shebang)
02:23:33 <oerjan> shachaf: how?
02:23:41 <shachaf> Maybe I'm missing something.
02:23:53 <shachaf> #!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl -p ?
02:24:04 <shachaf> Which would run it with the argument "perl -p"
02:24:09 <oerjan> would it?
02:24:20 <oerjan> i didn't think shebangs worked that way
02:24:25 <shachaf> `mkx tmp/sh//#!/bin/echo a b
02:24:26 <HackEgo> tmp/sh
02:24:29 <shachaf> `tmp/sh
02:24:31 <HackEgo> a b /hackenv/tmp/sh
02:24:32 <oerjan> it just ignores arguments other than the first
02:24:45 <shachaf> No, it just includes the space in the argument.
02:24:56 <shachaf> It doesn't have special treatment for spaces other than the first.
02:24:58 <oerjan> shachaf: that doesn't tell whether it split the arguments or not
02:25:01 <shachaf> I know.
02:25:25 <oerjan> i'm skeptical.
02:25:52 <oerjan> because if that were the case, the special treatment i've read that perl does makes no sense.
02:25:55 <shachaf> `mkx tmp/args//for a in "$@"; do echo -n "[$a]"; done
02:25:57 <HackEgo> tmp/args
02:26:09 <shachaf> `mkx tmp/sh//#!/hackenv/tmp/args a b
02:26:12 <HackEgo> tmp/sh
02:26:16 <shachaf> `tmp/sh
02:26:18 <HackEgo> No output.
02:27:00 <oerjan> `sled tmp/args//1i#!/bin/bash
02:27:03 <HackEgo> tmp/args//#!/bin/bash \ for a in "$@"; do echo -n "[$a]"; done
02:27:09 <oerjan> `tmp/sh
02:27:09 <shachaf> yes, that
02:27:11 <HackEgo> ​[a b][/hackenv/tmp/sh]
02:27:19 <oerjan> hm you're apparently right
02:27:22 <shachaf> What special treatment were *you* thinking of?
02:27:36 <shachaf> I thought you meant that even if you run "perl file.pl", it'll read the perl arguments from the #! line.
02:27:55 <oerjan> shachaf: i've read that perl checks the first line
02:28:10 <shachaf> So have I.
02:28:12 <oerjan> and i also read that it was because shebangs can only take one argument.
02:28:16 <shachaf> The way I described it.
02:28:30 <oerjan> anyway, you've showed that my way is overkill, so...
02:28:38 <shachaf> oh no
02:28:45 <shachaf> you wouldn't want anything overkill in HackEgo
02:29:05 <shachaf> Maybe perl has a special case where it splits the #! argument on spaces or something.
02:29:15 <oerjan> `fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input
02:29:19 <HackEgo> 2016-07-05 01:29:09 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [124/124] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1]
02:29:25 <oerjan> `` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin
02:29:30 <HackEgo> No output.
02:29:33 <oerjan> `rainbow testing
02:29:36 <HackEgo> testing
02:29:49 <oerjan> `sled bin/h//s,//, ,
02:29:51 <HackEgo> bin/h//#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input perl -p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig
02:29:56 <oerjan> `h testing
02:29:57 <HackEgo> tehstihng
02:30:04 <oerjan> excellent
02:30:08 <shachaf> But now you can't h a file anymore.
02:30:17 <oerjan> oh.
02:30:19 <shachaf> That used to work until you changed it.
02:30:28 <shachaf> `h changed
02:30:29 <HackEgo> chahngehd
02:30:36 <shachaf> `h pooch
02:30:37 <HackEgo> poohch
02:30:55 <oerjan> shachaf: well duh, don't ask me to fix things without telling me that
02:31:04 <shachaf> `h doctrine
02:31:05 <HackEgo> dohctrihne
02:31:34 <oerjan> _obviously_ a script cannot support both raw text on command line and filenames, duh
02:31:45 <shachaf> what if you treated it as a path if it contained //
02:32:15 <oerjan> i don't think so. there's nothing that cannot be in a raw text line. it would be illogical.
02:32:23 <alercah> whoa, the Guardian is doing a series of specials on Canada this week
02:32:30 <shachaf> anyway your job now is to find nifty ways to give monoidal structure to the category of hask endofunctors twh
02:32:38 <shachaf> i know of five ways
02:32:43 <shachaf> can you think of another one
02:34:39 <oerjan> hm...
02:35:24 <alercah> oerjan: I don't think it's obvious hth
02:35:52 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa, Canada?
02:35:54 <oerjan> alercah: well, it cannot support filenames from the hackego `command style.
02:36:07 <shachaf> i heard Canada celebrated the 4th of july three days early
02:36:17 <shachaf> `tmp/args abc
02:36:19 <HackEgo> ​[ abc]
02:36:30 <shachaf> `tmp/args
02:36:31 <HackEgo> No output.
02:36:43 <oerjan> i _could_ make it work in a script with a flag.
02:37:12 <oerjan> so that h -f ... worked
02:37:19 <oerjan> or h -- ...
02:37:54 <shachaf> You would want to make both of them work.
02:38:04 <shachaf> So that you could h -- -f if you wanted to h the string -f
02:40:25 <alercah> oerjan: why not
02:40:42 <alercah> oerjan: escape characters exist
02:42:35 <shachaf> Escaping is one of the biggest scows in computer science.
02:43:06 <alercah> here's a silly example
02:43:27 <alercah> actually no i've better things to do
02:43:48 <oerjan> alercah: well by "supporting raw text" i mean supporting _all_ raw text that can be given on the HackEgo command line.
02:44:22 <oerjan> shachaf: no, that would just be h -f
02:44:32 <alercah> I think you are constraining yourself so as to deliberately make your problem impossible hth
02:44:39 <oerjan> shachaf: the test wouldn't be for a flag, but for having more than one argument.
02:44:59 <oerjan> alercah: i think you don't understand the spirit of HackEgo programming.
02:45:20 <oerjan> alercah: note that the HackEgo command line is _not_ a shell command line.
02:46:09 <oerjan> shachaf: in fact it could ignore what the first argument was. not sure if that's a good idea.
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03:11:20 <oerjan> `fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input
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03:11:30 <oerjan> `` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin
03:11:38 <HackEgo> No output.
03:11:42 <oerjan> `h testing
03:11:42 <HackEgo> tehstihng
03:11:51 <oerjan> `h -- testing
03:11:52 <HackEgo> ​-- tehstihng
03:11:53 <oerjan> `ls
03:11:55 <HackEgo> ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
03:11:59 <hppavilion[1]> #!
03:12:08 <oerjan> `` h -- wisdom/oerjan
03:12:21 <oerjan> gah
03:12:25 <oerjan> oh
03:12:25 <Sgeo__> Congrats ais523!
03:12:29 <Sgeo__> Gah he's not here
03:12:39 <HackEgo> No output.
03:12:41 <oerjan> `` h -- wisdom/oerjan </dev/null
03:12:42 <HackEgo> Youhr myhstehriouhs ahrtihclehd cahcklihng zohmbie uhndehrlohrd kohmmihsjohnær ehmehrihtuhs oehrjahn ihs a lahzy ehxpehrt ihn fuhtuhre cohmpuhtahtiohn. Ahlso a Prehcahmbriahn Nohrwehgiahn who mihldly dihslihkehs Roahld Dahhl wihth a pahsjohn. Lahtehly whehn he triehs to rehmehmbehr a wohrd, "ahmohrtihzehd" pohps uhp. Hihs ahrch-nehmehsihs ihs Beht
03:13:19 <oerjan> ok a minor flaw, it will cat the input even if the command doesn't use it. hm.
03:13:57 <lifthrasiir> is it possible for `h` to make `sit` into a swear word
03:14:06 <oerjan> i don't think so
03:14:15 <oerjan> it only adds it after vowels.
03:14:23 <lifthrasiir> siht.
03:14:44 <oerjan> `` rainbow -- wisdom/oerjan
03:14:50 <oerjan> argh
03:14:57 <oerjan> ok, this is somewhat inconvenient.
03:15:14 <HackEgo> No output.
03:21:20 <oerjan> `fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input
03:21:24 <HackEgo> 2016-07-05 02:21:14 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/shebang_args_or_input [162/162] -> "shebang_args_or_input" [1]
03:21:26 <oerjan> `` chmod +x she*; mv she* bin
03:21:30 <HackEgo> No output.
03:21:39 <oerjan> `` h -- wisdom/oerjan
03:21:40 <HackEgo> Youhr myhstehriouhs ahrtihclehd cahcklihng zohmbie uhndehrlohrd kohmmihsjohnær ehmehrihtuhs oehrjahn ihs a lahzy ehxpehrt ihn fuhtuhre cohmpuhtahtiohn. Ahlso a Prehcahmbriahn Nohrwehgiahn who mihldly dihslihkehs Roahld Dahhl wihth a pahsjohn. Lahtehly whehn he triehs to rehmehmbehr a wohrd, "ahmohrtihzehd" pohps uhp. Hihs ahrch-nehmehsihs ihs Beht
03:21:46 <oerjan> `` h wisdom/oerjan
03:21:48 <HackEgo> wihsdohm/oehrjahn
03:21:58 <oerjan> `h wisdom/oerjan
03:21:59 <HackEgo> wihsdohm/oehrjahn
03:22:12 <oerjan> `` \? oerjan | h
03:22:16 <HackEgo> Youhr myhstehriouhs ahrtihclehd cahcklihng zohmbie uhndehrlohrd kohmmihsjohnær ehmehrihtuhs oehrjahn ihs a lahzy ehxpehrt ihn fuhtuhre cohmpuhtahtiohn. Ahlso a Prehcahmbriahn Nohrwehgiahn who mihldly dihslihkehs Roahld Dahhl wihth a pahsjohn. Lahtehly whehn he triehs to rehmehmbehr a wohrd, "ahmohrtihzehd" pohps uhp. Hihs ahrch-nehmehsihs ihs Beht
03:22:44 <oerjan> shachaf: ok now it can be used in 3 different ways.
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03:32:28 <lifthrasiir> `` echo oops | h | h
03:32:31 <HackEgo> oohhps
03:32:54 <lifthrasiir> `` echo oops | xxd | h | h
03:32:59 <HackEgo> 0000000: 6f6f 7073 0a oohhps.
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03:40:50 <oerjan> huh there you are.
03:41:32 <oerjan> tmux starts, and opens programs, but does not seem to show me the session
03:42:51 <oerjan> needed to use ^B) to get to it
03:43:14 <oerjan> now food ->
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03:59:18 <\oren\> `rainbow qwertyuiopasdfghjkl
03:59:32 <HackEgo> qwertyuiopasdfghjkl
04:00:04 <\oren\> i am not sure that putting the colors in a rondom order is a good "rainbow"
04:01:10 <lifthrasiir> isn't the fixed sequential order better
04:01:53 <\oren\> it should do red yellow green cyan blue magenta
04:02:00 <\oren\> and repeat
04:02:17 <\oren\> there isn't gray in a rainbow
04:03:52 <\oren\> `` tcc -v
04:03:55 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: tcc: command not found
04:03:58 <\oren\> bah
04:04:10 <\oren\> `` cc -v
04:04:17 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>:1:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘-’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
04:04:23 <\oren\> wtf
04:04:37 <\oren\> `` gcc -v
04:04:39 <HackEgo> Using built-in specs. \ COLLECT_GCC=gcc \ COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper \ Target: x86_64-linux-gnu \ Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.7.2-5' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,go,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.7
04:04:42 <\oren\> aha
04:05:43 <\oren\> brb making a better rainbow
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04:24:15 <oerjan> \oren\: rainwords does them in order, rainbow is different for traditional reasons.
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04:25:15 <hppavilion[1]> If thou gaze long into /dev/null...
04:25:21 <hppavilion[1]> `? /dev/null
04:25:27 <oerjan> `? tradition
04:26:04 <HackEgo> tradition? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:26:05 <HackEgo> No output.
04:26:16 <alercah> is it allowed to eat a scow at a shindig?
04:26:40 <hppavilion[1]> `? sbeef
04:26:47 <HackEgo> sbeef? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:27:17 <\oren\> `` cat >orenbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n''int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}'
04:27:26 <hppavilion[1]> `learn sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow
04:27:38 <HackEgo> No output.
04:28:06 <HackEgo> Learned 'sbeef': sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow
04:28:16 <\oren\> `` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow
04:28:21 <oerjan> \oren\: using c means it cannot use my wrapper script :(
04:29:00 <oerjan> not directly, anyway.
04:29:00 <hppavilion[1]> But what is the name for a scut of sbeef generally sliced perpendicular to the smuscle fibers? ssteak?
04:29:00 <HackEgo> No output.
04:29:24 <\oren\> `orenbow foobar
04:29:31 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: orenbow: not found
04:30:04 <\oren\> `` orenbow <<<"foobars"
04:30:19 <hppavilion[1]> Has anybody gotten a bot running on HackEgo?
04:30:20 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: orenbow: command not found
04:30:26 <\oren\> `` ./orenbow <<<"foobars"
04:30:29 <oerjan> shachaf: the problem with doing work on HackEgo is that it inspires others to do misguided experiments :(
04:30:38 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: ./orenbow: No such file or directory
04:31:44 <\oren\> `` mv orenbow bin
04:32:00 <HackEgo> mv: cannot stat `orenbow': No such file or directory
04:32:17 <hppavilion[1]> `` grep -rnw '/wisdom' -e "cow"
04:32:29 <HackEgo> grep: /wisdom: No such file or directory
04:32:31 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
04:32:34 <hppavilion[1]> `ls
04:32:35 <\oren\> `` ls orenbow.c
04:33:23 <HackEgo> ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ orenbow.c \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
04:33:24 <HackEgo> orenbow.c
04:33:42 <\oren\> `` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow
04:34:06 <oerjan> hm...
04:34:12 <oerjan> `cat orenbow.c
04:34:12 <hppavilion[1]> `` grep -r './wisdom' -e "cow"
04:34:15 <HackEgo> orenbow
04:34:25 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}
04:34:25 <oerjan> sooo slooooooo
04:34:33 <HackEgo> ​./wisdom/sbeef:sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow \ ./wisdom/cow:A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. \ ./wisdom/scow:Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
04:34:36 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Correct, and it's my job to worsen it
04:34:44 <\oren\> `` mv orenbow bin
04:34:48 <HackEgo> No output.
04:34:48 <oerjan> hm my suspicion was wrong.
04:35:04 <\oren\> `` orenbow <<<"hello world"
04:35:06 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mh[32;1me[36;1ml[34;1ml[35;1mo[31;1m [33;1mw[32;1mo[36;1mr[34;1ml[35;1md[31;1m
04:35:07 <oerjan> i guess the first gcc just timed out.
04:35:10 * hppavilion[1] is chief of botslowenning
04:35:30 <\oren\> `` orenbow <<<"1234567890"
04:35:32 <HackEgo> ​[33;1m1[32;1m2[36;1m3[34;1m4[35;1m5[31;1m6[33;1m7[32;1m8[36;1m9[34;1m0[35;1m
04:35:37 <oerjan> hm ...
04:35:42 * oerjan has an idea
04:35:46 <hppavilion[1]> `? graham's number
04:35:48 <HackEgo> graham's number? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:35:53 <hppavilion[1]> `? g64
04:35:55 <HackEgo> g64? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:35:59 <oerjan> `` ls bin/rainb*
04:36:02 <HackEgo> bin/rainbow
04:36:13 <oerjan> `` mv bin/rainbow{,.old}
04:36:19 <HackEgo> No output.
04:36:28 <\oren\> `le/rn graham's number/graham's number isn't as delicious as his crackers.
04:36:33 <HackEgo> Learned «graham's number»
04:37:51 <oerjan> hm wait this won't work
04:37:54 <oerjan> *sigh*
04:37:58 <oerjan> oh
04:38:00 <oerjan> anyway
04:38:24 <oerjan> `mkx bin/rainbow//print_args_or_input "$@" | orenbow
04:38:28 <HackEgo> bin/rainbow
04:38:33 <oerjan> `rainbow testing
04:38:34 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mt[32;1me[36;1ms[34;1mt[35;1mi[31;1mn[33;1mg[32;1m
04:39:04 <\oren\> I wrote it in the finest horrible C.
04:39:27 <shachaf> oerjan: What's the misguided experiment?
04:39:32 <oerjan> `` cp orenbow.c src
04:39:40 <HackEgo> No output.
04:39:44 <oerjan> shachaf: i changed my opinion a bit.
04:39:56 <\oren\> `rainbow でもウニコードを出来る
04:39:58 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mã[32;1m[36;1m§[34;1mã[35;1m‚[31;1m‚[33;1mã[32;1m‚[36;1m¦[34;1mã[35;1mƒ[31;1m‹[33;1mã[32;1m‚[36;1m³[34;1mã[35;1mƒ[31;1m¼[33;1mã[32;1mƒ[36;1m‰[34;1mã[35;1m‚[31;1m’[33;1må[32;1m‡[36;1mº[34;1mæ[35;1m[31;1m¥[33;1mã[32;1m‚[36;1m‹[34;1m
04:40:03 <\oren\> EHHHHH
04:40:35 <\oren\> I totally thought that would work
04:41:04 <oerjan> \oren\: you'll need some utf-8 handling
04:41:25 <oerjan> only put it in front of initial bytes, or something
04:41:32 <\oren\> it has that, but it's not working
04:41:36 <oerjan> oh
04:41:38 <oerjan> lessee
04:41:57 <oerjan> `rainbow Ørjan
04:42:05 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mÃ[32;1m˜[36;1mr[34;1mj[35;1ma[31;1mn[33;1m
04:42:08 <\oren\> `` cat orenbow.c
04:42:10 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&192))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}
04:42:23 <\oren\> if(!(a&128)||(a&192))
04:42:24 <oerjan> wrong test maybe?
04:43:03 <\oren\> if the upper bit is clear, or the upper two bits are set...
04:43:36 * oerjan doesn't remember which is which
04:43:43 <oerjan> ^ord Ø
04:43:43 <fungot> 195 152
04:45:03 <oerjan> ^ord でも
04:45:03 <fungot> 227 129 167 227 130 130
04:45:14 <oerjan> looks plausible
04:46:59 <oerjan> `! c int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192));
04:47:14 <oerjan> will that even finish these days.
04:47:17 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
04:47:23 <oerjan> argh
04:48:01 <oerjan> `! c int main () { int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); }
04:48:09 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
04:48:27 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds).
04:48:39 * oerjan has no idea what he's doin ... oh.
04:48:58 <hppavilion[1]> That moment when you open a Wikipedia citation for more information and it's completely unrelated
04:49:05 <oerjan> `! c #include <stdio.h>\nint main () { int a=227; printf("%d\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); }
04:49:15 <oerjan> oh wait
04:49:16 <HackEgo> No output.
04:49:22 <hppavilion[1]> "Hundreds attended his funeral[1]"
04:49:24 <hppavilion[1]> [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
04:49:25 <oerjan> `! c int main () { int a=227; printf("%d\\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); }
04:49:34 <HackEgo> 1
04:49:47 <oerjan> `! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",!(a&128)||(a&192)); }
04:49:55 <HackEgo> 1
04:50:05 <oerjan> oh that doesn't look good
04:50:45 <\oren\> `! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",a&192); }
04:50:51 <HackEgo> 128
04:50:59 <\oren\> OH FUCK
04:51:13 <\oren\> i'm an idiot
04:51:47 <oerjan> i'm not sure why it matters that it's not 0 or 1
04:51:52 <oerjan> oh
04:51:54 <oerjan> duh :P
04:52:04 <\oren\> `! c int main () { int a=129; printf("%d\\n",!(a&192)-192); }
04:52:08 <HackEgo> ​-192
04:52:21 <\oren\> ok good I can fix it in place
04:52:29 <oerjan> \oren\: just s/192/64/, i think.
04:52:56 <oerjan> because the other test ensures if you get there, the highest bit is set.
04:53:06 <\oren\> yeah
04:53:32 <oerjan> `slwd graham's number//s,.,G,
04:53:38 <HackEgo> wisdom/graham's number//Graham's number isn't as delicious as his crackers.
04:54:09 <shachaf> `` culprits "$(lastfiles)"
04:54:24 <HackEgo> oerjan oren
04:54:53 <\oren\> `` sed -i '' -e 's/192/64/' orenbow.c
04:54:58 <HackEgo> sed: can't read : No such file or directory
04:55:45 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/192/64/' -i orenbow.c
04:55:48 <HackEgo> No output.
04:55:56 <\oren\> `` cat orenbow.c
04:55:59 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}
04:57:12 <oerjan> `` cp orenbow.c src
04:57:17 <HackEgo> No output.
04:58:09 <\oren\> `` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow
04:58:31 <HackEgo> orenbow
04:58:48 <\oren\> `` mv orenbow bin
04:58:52 <HackEgo> No output.
04:58:59 <\oren\> `rainbow でもウニコードを出来る
04:59:00 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mで[34;1mも[33;1mウ[34;1mニ[33;1mコ[34;1mー[33;1mド[34;1mを[33;1m出[34;1m来[33;1mる[34;1m
04:59:05 <\oren\> uhhhh
04:59:17 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/;putchar\(a\);/,/' -i orenbow.c
04:59:20 <HackEgo> No output.
04:59:27 <shachaf> Why are you just putting everything in the root directory?
05:00:16 <\oren\> `` cat orenbow.c
05:00:18 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]);putchar(a);c=c+1-6*(c>4);goto b;}
05:00:26 <hppavilion[1]> Remember: There will come a day when rickrolling is no longer effective
05:00:30 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/;putchar(a);/,/' -i orenbow.c
05:00:35 <HackEgo> No output.
05:00:48 <oerjan> l/rn2sled
05:01:17 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/>4);/>4);putchar(a);/' -i orenbow.c
05:01:22 <HackEgo> No output.
05:01:25 <\oren\> `` cat orenbow.c
05:01:27 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=1;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;}
05:01:33 <shachaf> `ls src
05:01:34 <HackEgo> 99.sh \ bf \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ ciol.c \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ maze.c \ orenbow.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm
05:01:36 <shachaf> Put source in src/
05:01:46 <\oren\> `` gcc orenbow.c -o orenbow; ls orenbow;
05:01:46 <shachaf> Everything you do is recorded in version control forever.
05:01:53 <shachaf> `` mv orenbow.c src/
05:01:59 <HackEgo> orenbow
05:02:04 <HackEgo> No output.
05:02:12 <\oren\> `` mv orenbow bin
05:02:17 <HackEgo> No output.
05:02:18 <\oren\> `rainbow でもウニコードを出来る
05:02:20 <HackEgo> ​[33;1mで[32;1mも[36;1mウ[34;1mニ[35;1mコ[31;1mー[33;1mド[32;1mを[36;1m出[34;1m来[35;1mる[31;1m
05:02:23 <\oren\> YAY
05:03:02 <shachaf> Wait, you're not even using IRC colors.
05:03:14 <oerjan> those did look a bit strange
05:03:16 <\oren\> `rainbow 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る
05:03:18 <HackEgo> ​[33;1m本[32;1m当[36;1mに[34;1mウ[35;1mニ[31;1mコ[33;1mー[32;1mド[36;1mを[34;1m虹[35;1m色[31;1m出[33;1m来[32;1mる[36;1m
05:04:18 <shachaf> Also your UTF-8 handling is wrong.
05:04:24 <oerjan> in any case, why aren't you starting with red
05:04:31 <oerjan> shachaf: is it?
05:04:40 <shachaf> Oh, maybe it isn't.
05:04:45 <oerjan> i thought we just fixed that.
05:04:50 <\oren\> my list of colors is the string "\37! $\"#" feel free to reorder it
05:05:00 <shachaf> Hmm, I guess it works for valid UTF-8.
05:05:06 <pikhq> It's a bit hackish, but it'll work with any valid UTF-8.
05:06:04 <\oren\> or you can change c=1 to c=0
05:06:09 <\oren\> or something
05:06:15 <oerjan> yeah
05:06:34 <tswett> Hey everyone, māke sure not to get caught off-guard bȳ thē new macron rūle.
05:06:35 <tswett> `? macron
05:06:39 <HackEgo> ​Ā macron is what you put ōver ā long vowel in order to mark it as ā long vowel. Macrons will bēcome mandatory in English on Octōber 14, 2016.
05:06:48 <oerjan> `sled bin/orenbow.c//s,c=1,c=0,
05:06:49 <HackEgo> Rosebud!
05:06:57 <oerjan> er
05:07:02 <oerjan> `sled src/orenbow.c//s,c=1,c=0,
05:07:07 <shachaf> that's not how c works hth
05:07:07 <HackEgo> src/orenbow.c//#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;}
05:07:12 <shachaf> But why is that program even written in C?
05:07:16 <pikhq> I'm afraid I'm still on an old version of English. I spell it "coöperate", and as such will not be coöperating with you.
05:07:26 <oerjan> `` gcc src/orenbow.c -o bin/orenbow
05:07:40 <HackEgo> No output.
05:07:49 <oerjan> `rainbow 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る
05:07:50 <HackEgo> ​[31;1m本[33;1m当[32;1mに[36;1mウ[34;1mニ[35;1mコ[31;1mー[33;1mド[32;1mを[36;1m虹[34;1m色[35;1m出[31;1m来[33;1mる[32;1m
05:07:53 <oerjan> there
05:07:56 <\oren\> shachaf: because i like c
05:08:04 <shachaf> But you need to compile it.
05:08:05 <tswett> pikhq: "cōöperāte" hth?
05:08:12 <pikhq> tswett: :(
05:08:20 <tswett> `? cooperate
05:08:21 <HackEgo> cooperate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:08:32 <tswett> `learn "Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte".
05:08:36 <HackEgo> Learned '"cooperate"': "Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte".
05:08:41 <tswett> Nonono.
05:08:50 <\oren\> shachaf: also it means poor hackego doesn't have to fire up another interpreter program adding to its abysmal response time
05:09:01 <tswett> `run mv -v wisdom/{'"cooperate"',cooperate}
05:09:05 <HackEgo> ​`wisdom/"cooperate"' -> `wisdom/cooperate'
05:09:36 <shachaf> Running a Python interpreter isn't what makes HackEgo slow.
05:09:50 <oerjan> tswett: since when does "a" have a long vowel
05:10:01 <\oren\> `` wc bin/orenbow
05:10:03 <HackEgo> ​ 26 85 7149 bin/orenbow
05:10:19 <\oren\> wow that's pretty big
05:10:41 <\oren\> i guess it does include printf
05:12:35 <\oren\> oerjan: it depends on Du cAdens uv Du spEkR
05:12:36 <pikhq> I don't think you're static linking it, so no it doesn't.
05:12:47 <pikhq> However, it will have debug info.
05:12:53 <\oren\> oh.
05:12:55 <\oren\> right.
05:12:58 <pikhq> `` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -g -o bin/orenbow
05:12:58 <shachaf> `gcc -o tmp/orenbow src/orenbow.c
05:13:11 <shachaf> pikhq: You're adding -g?
05:13:11 <HackEgo> gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated.
05:13:13 <pikhq> `` wc bin/orenbow
05:13:18 <pikhq> shachaf: Derp
05:13:23 <pikhq> `` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -s -o bin/orenbow
05:13:39 <HackEgo> No output.
05:13:43 <HackEgo> ​ 2 61 4696 bin/orenbow
05:13:50 <HackEgo> No output.
05:13:59 <shachaf> That's a lotta bytes.
05:14:06 <\oren\> `` wc bin/orenbow
05:14:07 <shachaf> You should write it in x86 assembly instead.
05:14:09 <HackEgo> ​ 9 137 9037 bin/orenbow
05:14:10 <shachaf> `` uname -r
05:14:11 <HackEgo> 3.13.0-umlbox
05:14:26 <shachaf> `` uname -a
05:14:27 <HackEgo> Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
05:15:33 <shachaf> `cat src/orenbow.c
05:15:35 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%d;1m","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;}
05:17:17 <\oren\> i suppose at the machine level it would be fastest to call write() directly
05:17:28 <pikhq> Not necessarily.
05:17:41 <pikhq> Well, unless you do buffering similar to what stdio does.
05:17:59 <\oren\> oh right
05:18:29 <shachaf> Being fastest has nothing to do with any of it.
05:18:56 <\oren\> wait what hppened back there? the one with -g was smaller than the one with -s!!!
05:19:44 <pikhq> I think we had some racing going on.
05:20:19 <pikhq> `` gcc src/orenbow.c -Os -s -o bin/orenbow
05:20:24 <\oren\> Hackego is multithreaded? oh, that's marvelous
05:20:32 <\oren\> not
05:20:34 <HackEgo> No output.
05:20:35 <pikhq> `` wc bin/orenbow
05:20:38 <HackEgo> ​ 2 61 4696 bin/orenbow
05:21:50 <\oren\> `rainbow well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harmony
05:21:52 <HackEgo> ​[31;1mw[33;1me[32;1ml[36;1ml[34;1m,[35;1m [31;1ma[33;1mt[32;1m [36;1ml[34;1me[35;1ma[31;1ms[33;1mt[32;1m [36;1mt[34;1mh[35;1me[31;1m [33;1mc[32;1mo[36;1ml[34;1mo[35;1mr[31;1ms[33;1m [32;1mo[36;1mf[34;1m [35;1mt[31;1mh[33;1me[32;1m [36;1mr[34;1ma[35;1mi[31;1mn[33;1mb[32;1mo[36;1mw[34;1m [35;1ma[31;1mr[3
05:21:57 <\oren\> wut
05:22:11 <\oren\> oh, length limit
05:22:45 <shachaf> You should use IRC colors. Probably more compact.
05:22:51 <pikhq> Agreed.
05:22:52 <shachaf> well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harmony
05:23:20 <\oren\> hmm *googles irc colors*
05:23:36 <oerjan> oh righ hm
05:23:42 <oerjan> `cat bin/rainbow.old
05:23:44 <HackEgo> ​#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random \ import re \ w=raw_input() \ p=list('x'*len(w)+'C'*int((341-len(w))/3+1)) \ random.shuffle(p) \ p=list(re.sub('C+','C',''.join(p))) \ i=(c for c in w) \ print ''.join(i.next() if c=='x' else chr(3)+'%02d' % random.randrange(2,15) for c in ['C']+p)
05:24:03 <pikhq> Lemme go tinker with things.
05:24:06 <oerjan> the old one took care of the limit.
05:25:28 <\oren\> hmm well there is some length optimization that can be dome
05:25:32 <\oren\> *done
05:26:00 <oerjan> as in, it doesn't add more than there's room for.
05:26:23 <oerjan> otoh i don't think it was utf-8 clean.
05:26:51 <shachaf> `` echo 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る | bin/rainbow.old
05:26:54 <HackEgo> ​本当にウニコードを虹色出来る
05:27:03 <shachaf> Did \oren\ just trick me into saying something really rude in Japanese?
05:27:19 <pikhq> shachaf: No.
05:27:24 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/{/{printf("\e[1m");/' -i orenbow.c
05:27:25 <HackEgo> sed: can't read orenbow.c: No such file or directory
05:27:42 <shachaf> Why don't you use sled?
05:27:45 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/{/{printf("\e[1m");/' -i src/orenbow.c
05:27:50 <HackEgo> No output.
05:27:53 <pikhq> shachaf: It's slightly butchered, but I think it's supposed to be "I can really do rainbow-colored Unicode".
05:27:57 <\oren\> shachaf: no idea how
05:28:32 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: isn't that Unicode ユニコード
05:28:39 <lifthrasiir> s/that//
05:28:44 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/;1m/m/' -i src/orenbow.c
05:28:47 <lifthrasiir> ウニコード is more like Woonicode
05:28:48 <HackEgo> No output.
05:29:04 <\oren\> yeah I messed that up
05:29:31 <\oren\> `` cat src/orenbow.c
05:29:33 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){printf("e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;}
05:29:54 <tswett> oerjan: since whenever you empasīze it.
05:30:15 <oerjan> tswett: but usually you don't.
05:30:28 <tswett> That's trūe.
05:30:31 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/e[/\\e[/' -i src/orenbow.c
05:30:35 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unterminated `s' command
05:30:45 <\oren\> `` sed -e 's/e\[/\\e\[/' -i src/orenbow.c
05:30:51 <HackEgo> No output.
05:30:54 <\oren\> `` cat src/orenbow.c
05:30:56 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ int main(){printf("\e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;}
05:30:56 <oerjan> `? sled
05:31:00 <HackEgo> sled? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:31:02 <pikhq> Lemme try this out...
05:31:20 <tswett> Wē'll have to let consensus figure out whether or not "a" is to bē macronned.
05:31:21 <\oren\> there that should reduce the output length some
05:31:45 <shachaf> I thought you were going to reduce binary size.
05:31:46 <tswett> Since, y'know, Ī'm sure that mȳ macron convention will tāke off.
05:31:56 <tswett> `loudly 本当にウニコードを虹色出来る
05:31:58 <HackEgo>
05:32:12 <tswett> `loudly I wasn't expecting that to work.
05:32:15 <HackEgo> I wasn't expecting that to work.
05:32:27 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\\n''#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%2d%s%lc", c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:32:35 <HackEgo> No output.
05:33:09 <pikhq> hth
05:33:36 <pikhq> Grumble, doesn't work, w/e
05:33:42 <oerjan> `learn sled <filename>//<sed script>
05:33:47 <HackEgo> Learned 'sled': sled <filename>//<sed script>
05:34:08 <\oren\> `` gcc src/orenbow.c -o bin/orenbow
05:34:15 <oerjan> hm
05:34:21 <HackEgo> No output.
05:34:29 <oerjan> `le/rn sled/`sled <filename>//<sed script>
05:34:30 <\oren\> `rainbow well, at least the colors of the rainbow are back in harmony
05:34:32 <HackEgo> Relearned «sled»
05:34:33 <HackEgo> ​[1m[31mw[33me[32ml[36ml[34m,[35m [31ma[33mt[32m [36ml[34me[35ma[31ms[33mt[32m [36mt[34mh[35me[31m [33mc[32mo[36ml[34mo[35mr[31ms[33m [32mo[36mf[34m [35mt[31mh[33me[32m [36mr[34ma[35mi[31mn[33mb[32mo[36mw[34m [35ma[31mr[33me[32m [36mb[34ma[35mc[31mk[33m [32mi[36mn[34m [35mh[31ma[33mr[32mm
05:34:38 <\oren\> better
05:34:51 <pikhq> Oh, helps if you don't fuck it up.
05:35:12 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\\n''#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:35:18 <HackEgo> No output.
05:35:25 <pikhq> `` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
05:35:31 <HackEgo> src/pikhqbow.c:1:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
05:35:41 <pikhq> :/
05:36:11 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n''#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:36:15 <HackEgo> No output.
05:36:17 <pikhq> `` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
05:36:21 <HackEgo> src/pikhqbow.c:2:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
05:36:31 <pikhq> `` cat src/pikhqbow.c
05:36:33 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ #include <wchar.h>\nint main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L,?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}
05:37:44 <\oren\> your second include line is in '' and not $''
05:37:54 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:37:58 <HackEgo> No output.
05:38:04 <pikhq> `` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
05:38:09 <HackEgo> src/pikhqbow.c: In function ‘main’: \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:95: error: ‘L’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:95: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ src/pikhqbow.c:3:97: error: expected expression before ‘?’ token
05:38:21 <pikhq> ... That got pasted wrong or something.
05:38:28 <pikhq> Oh, no, duh, ''
05:38:49 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n''#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L'\'','\''?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:38:54 <HackEgo> No output.
05:38:58 <pikhq> `` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
05:39:02 <HackEgo> src/pikhqbow.c:2:19: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive [enabled by default] \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
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05:39:26 <pikhq> `cat src/pikhqbow.c
05:39:29 <HackEgo> ​#include <stdio.h> \ #include <wchar.h>\nint main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L','?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}
05:39:44 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=2;b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%02d%s%lc",a,c==L'\'','\''?",99":"",c);a++;if(a==14)a=2;goto b;}'
05:39:47 <HackEgo> No output.
05:39:52 <pikhq> `` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
05:40:07 <HackEgo> No output.
05:40:08 <pikhq> `` echo "Testing, 1 2 3!" | ./bin/pikhqbow
05:40:10 <HackEgo> Testing, 1 2 3!
05:41:03 <\oren\> uhhh what i dont even
05:41:27 <\oren\> colors in worng order anyway
05:41:53 <pikhq> Using IRC colors in IRC color order and using wchar_t to handle Unicode lazily.
05:42:29 <\oren\> ok but why did it change to a green backgorund
05:42:46 <pikhq> Uh, it shouldn't, and doesn't here?
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05:43:04 <pikhq> `` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow
05:43:06 <HackEgo> r
05:43:16 <pikhq> ...
05:43:27 <pikhq> Oh duh, duh, duh, setlocale needed. :P
05:43:30 <\oren\> I'm seeing a green backgorund on ``, 1 2 3!''
05:43:33 * pikhq officially stops caring
05:44:06 <pikhq> That's your client being buggy: color 99 is the default background, which your client is interpreting as green.
05:44:40 <\oren\> hmmm wht's the channel for irssi?
05:44:44 <pikhq> ... Oh, no, there's client differences.
05:44:45 <pikhq> FFS.
05:45:05 <pikhq> 99 is either the default background *or* the color 99%16.
05:45:21 <\oren\> well mine uses ansi colors which are relatively standards
05:45:43 <pikhq> Yes, but IRC colors are a well-accepted standard on IRC as well.
05:46:21 <pikhq> Unfortunately, IRC colors appear to have a bit of utter brain-damage: you can't reasonably color "," individually.
05:46:24 <shachaf> abcdef
05:46:25 <pikhq> Because that's part of the syntax.
05:47:02 <\oren\> `` echo "well the colors of the rainbow are out of harmony" | ./bin/pikhqbow
05:47:03 <HackEgo> well the colors of the rainbow are out of harmony
05:47:15 <pikhq> A color is set with "\x03%02d", and a color *and background* is set with "\x03%02d,%02d".
05:47:56 <\oren\> I could add bright colors to mine maybe
05:48:12 <\oren\> or dark ones
05:48:28 <\oren\> meh, rainbows have bright colors
05:48:54 <pikhq> So, IRC colors suck. Grumble.
05:48:55 <\oren\> pikhq: oh, I see why you can't do ,
05:54:06 <pikhq> Let's test, shall we?
05:54:21 <pikhq> Mmkay, that'll do.
05:55:53 <\oren\> how about this ,fooar
05:56:07 <\oren\> how about this fooar
05:56:27 <\oren\> aha. it only eats a , if followed directly by a number
05:58:19 <pikhq> Yup.
06:00:36 <\oren\> `` echo "the,3monster,4eats,5commas,6with,7numbers" | ./bin/pikhqbow
06:00:40 <HackEgo> the,3monster,4eats,5commas,6with,7numbers
06:01:01 <\oren\> ok apparently it doesnt
06:01:20 <\oren\> it does however turn everything green background
06:01:24 <pikhq> ``cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n#include <locale.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,7,8,9,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;}
06:01:26 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `cat: not found
06:01:45 <shachaf> The script I uses uses 4,8,9,11,12,13
06:02:10 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n#include <locale.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;}
06:02:12 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
06:02:18 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n#include <locale.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(a++==6)a=0;goto b;}'
06:02:22 <HackEgo> No output.
06:02:35 <pikhq> `` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
06:02:52 <HackEgo> No output.
06:03:05 <pikhq> `` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow
06:03:08 <HackEgo> rōmaji-1078776480 de yun-1078776480ikōdo w-1078776480o tesut-1078776480o shima-1078776480shō!
06:03:19 <pikhq> Well, that's novel.
06:04:01 <pikhq> `` cat >src/pikhqbow.c <<<$'#include <stdio.h>\n#include <wchar.h>\n#include <locale.h>\n''int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L'\'','\''?"\x0f":"",c);if(++a==6)a=0;goto b;}'
06:04:05 <HackEgo> No output.
06:04:09 <pikhq> `` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow
06:04:18 <HackEgo> No output.
06:04:23 <pikhq> `` echo "rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!" | ./bin/pikhqbow
06:04:24 <HackEgo> rōmaji de yunikōdo wo tesuto shimashō!
06:04:35 <pikhq> `` echo "And, well, what about this?" | ./bin/pikhqbow
06:04:37 <HackEgo> And, well, what about this?
06:05:02 <pikhq> `` cat bin/rainbow
06:05:05 <HackEgo> print_args_or_input "$@" | orenbow
06:06:16 <pikhq> `mkx bin/rainbow//print_args_or_input "$@" | pikhqbow
06:06:22 <HackEgo> bin/rainbow
06:06:32 <pikhq> `rainbow "Fine, happy now?"
06:06:33 <HackEgo> "Fine, happy now?"
06:06:39 <\oren\> yes
06:07:14 <pikhq> Will probably do weird shit with combining characters though...
06:07:32 <\oren\> `rainbow https://youtu.be/82prN2pF9Zo
06:07:33 <HackEgo> https://youtu.be/8prN2pFZo
06:07:38 <\oren\> mine did too
06:08:09 <\oren\> ooh, my terminal doesn't screw up rainbowed urls
06:08:10 <pikhq> `rainbow À
06:08:12 <HackEgo> À
06:08:18 <\oren\> I can still click on them
06:08:24 <pikhq> Whaddya know, it doesn't mess up on combining characters.
06:08:42 <pikhq> Except it'll probably get colored weirdly.
06:08:57 <\oren\> are you sure that something didn't normalize it on the way?
06:09:03 <pikhq> No, I am not.
06:09:49 <pikhq> Oh, actually, looking at the log, now I am sure.
06:11:06 <\oren\> `` echo "foobar" | zalgo | pikhqbow
06:11:11 <HackEgo> f͎̃o̰̬o̪̺b̭̈́a̺͂r̜͝ \
06:11:53 <\oren\> i think my terminal just ignores colors set on the combiners
06:12:05 <pikhq> Yeah.
06:12:09 <pikhq> Which is probably reasonable.
06:13:20 <\oren\> `` echo "foobar" | zalgo | orenbow
06:13:24 <HackEgo> ​[1m[31mf[33mͬ[32mͬ[36mo[34m̷[35m̝[31mo[33m̾[32m̦[36mb[34m̓[35m̹[31ma[33m̈́[32m̊[36mr[34m̻[35m̧[31m \ [33m
06:20:06 <shachaf> Weren't y'all going to reduce the byte count?
06:21:34 <pikhq> I didn't care, I just wanted to make it use IRC colors instead of vt100 colors.
06:22:02 <\oren\> I was preoccupied with the byte count of the output
06:22:29 <\oren\> and now I'm distracted adding more dingbats to my font
06:22:31 <pikhq> Well. To be sure, moving it to IRC colors will reduce the byte count of the output.
06:22:42 <\oren\> yeah.
06:22:57 <pikhq> Average of 2-3 extra bytes per input instead of... 4-5 or so?
06:24:26 <pikhq> And arguably better text handling, because wchar_t instead.
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06:24:43 <pikhq> (admittedly a little silly, but w/e)
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06:32:23 <shachaf> No, bytes of the executable.
06:32:33 <pikhq> Yup, didn't care.
06:32:41 <shachaf> Who cares about the output?
06:33:03 <pikhq> Would you prefer I pessimize the output? :P
06:33:25 <shachaf> Pessimizing is just optimizing in the opposite category.
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07:39:00 <shachaf> \oren\: Are you in a union?
07:46:37 <oerjan> oh ais523 joined the nethack devteam
07:54:03 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
07:56:11 <oerjan> https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/4r77er/new_devteam_members_bhaak_nethackde_unnethack_and/
08:05:36 <FreeFull> \o/
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08:56:43 <hppavilion[1]> ...Superman canon contains "Pink Kryptonite"
08:56:50 <hppavilion[1]> Which turns kryptonians gay
08:57:02 <hppavilion[1]> What it does to already-gay kryptonians is as-of-yet unspecified
08:58:34 <izabera> makes them super gay
09:01:05 <oerjan> yellow polkadot kryptonite
09:04:26 <hppavilion[1]> I'm surprised it wasn't rainbow
09:04:34 <hppavilion[1]> Or that it didn't form triangular crystals
09:05:15 <oerjan> i think triangles would be too offensive
09:05:42 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Oh? Really?
09:05:59 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Keep in mind, superman is /stereotypically/ gay, AND becomes gayly attracted to the first man he sees
09:06:21 <oerjan> hm
09:07:19 <oerjan> never mind
09:09:48 <hppavilion[1]> Then again, one could say "Well that's just how gay superman is- are you criticizing how he chooses to live his life?"
09:10:19 <hppavilion[1]> "Just because he fits the stereotypes of gay doesn't mean it's bad- stereotypical gays are just as valid as non-stereotypical gays"
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10:29:27 <izabera> version numbering done right: xf86-video-intel-1:2.99.917+674+g9154dff-1
10:32:03 <FreeFull> The intel drivers have been getting lots of updates recently for some reason
10:34:55 <lifthrasiir> epoch - upstream version - downstream revision - git revision - build revision?
10:35:16 <FreeFull> epoch, in case someone decides to do a complete rewrite?
10:35:17 <lifthrasiir> I don't really know Arch's versioning scheme
10:35:22 <lifthrasiir> FreeFull: yeah, exactly
10:35:30 <lifthrasiir> FreeFull: mostly for otherwise uncorrectable fixes
10:35:40 <FreeFull> lifthrasiir: Most things don't have huge versions like that
10:35:59 <lifthrasiir> of course
10:36:42 <FreeFull> For example the linux package's version is just 4.6.3-1
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12:12:59 <hppavilion[1]> I just learned about debt buyers
12:13:03 <hppavilion[1]> Horribly inethical
12:13:15 <hppavilion[1]> But I think my conscience may have hung himself
12:13:25 <hppavilion[1]> So now I want to make a debt buying company.
12:18:04 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:18:40 <HackEgo> Sword of Fire and Ice \ 3 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from red and from blue. \ Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, Sword of Fire and Ice deals 2 damage to target creature or player and you draw a card. \ Equip {2} \ DST-R, MMA-M
12:20:21 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:20:33 <HackEgo> Omnath, Locus of Rage \ 3RRGG \ Legendary Creature -- Elemental \ 5/5 \ Landfall -- Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, put a 5/5 red and green Elemental creature token onto the battlefield. \ Whenever Omnath, Locus of Rage or another Elemental you control dies, Omnath deals 3 damage to target creature or player. \ BFZ-M
12:21:19 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:21:28 <HackEgo> Kessig Cagebreakers \ 4G \ Creature -- Human Rogue \ 3/4 \ Whenever Kessig Cagebreakers attacks, put a 2/2 green Wolf creature token onto the battlefield tapped and attacking for each creature card in your graveyard. \ ISD-R, C15-R
12:22:30 <b_jonas> a new Omnath, changed? funny
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12:22:41 <boily> hppavellon[1]. you should create a debt selling company to unhang your conscience hth
12:22:56 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I could do that
12:23:02 <b_jonas> I think you misspelled hpp's name
12:23:18 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: It's my porthello, and my irc client responds to it too
12:23:44 <b_jonas> um
12:23:53 <b_jonas> "porthello"?
12:23:56 <b_jonas> `? porthello
12:23:59 <HackEgo> porthello? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:24:01 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I was thinking that, in every batch, I would forgive one of the debts (chosen by either some optimization algorithm or just rolling a d9000)
12:24:12 <hppavilion[1]> Uh, yeah, porthellos
12:24:18 <b_jonas> is that like a bordello?
12:24:19 <hppavilion[1]> A time-honored #esoteric tradition
12:24:29 <b_jonas> ah, I see!
12:24:32 <hppavilion[1]> This isn't even a joke, this is a thing that we've been doing at least since I joined the channel
12:24:44 <b_jonas> like a hellonas or helloren
12:24:46 <hppavilion[1]> Like hell\oren\ or ahoily or helloon
12:24:48 <hppavilion[1]> Yes
12:25:08 <hppavilion[1]> Or helloerjan
12:25:19 <b_jonas> there was a French one too
12:25:34 <hppavilion[1]> Or that one time I said <256-digit hex string that appears to be a hash>chaf
12:25:37 <boily> bon_journas?
12:25:59 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Never seen that one, but it's probably been used, and if it hasn't it should be used from now on
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12:36:56 <b_jonas> boily: no, I think the French one is bon soerjan or something. And the Hungarian one is probably b_jó napot-s or something
12:37:11 <b_jonas> I didn't know these were called porthello
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13:08:19 <LKoen> b_jonas: can I use the bonsoerjan? I like it
13:08:36 <b_jonas> LKoen: um, don't ask me, that one is for oerjan, not me
13:09:38 <LKoen> for you it would be bon_journas I guess
13:10:04 <b_jonas> LKoen: yes
13:12:07 <izabera> frozen fever is a 6 minutes short by pixar that's sold for 1.99$ or 5.99€
13:12:39 <izabera> really, the italian version costs 5.99€
13:13:03 <izabera> i'm so disgusted
13:14:31 <izabera> oh it's not from pixar but only from disney, whatever
13:17:16 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: 256-*digit* hex string? That's pretty wide for a hash.
13:18:14 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: I don't know, maybe it was 64? Yeah, it must've been 256-bit
13:18:36 <izabera> fizzie: must. avoid. collisions.
13:20:33 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, the Cincinnati Zoo shot and killed a gorilla that was actively a danger to a 3-year-old child
13:20:39 <hppavilion[1]> And people questioned there decision
13:22:24 <hppavilion[1]> *their
13:24:55 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: how did a child get in there?
13:25:09 <b_jonas> was it a human child? a gorilla child?
13:25:16 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: Human
13:25:41 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: b_jonas: He climbed over a barrier and managed to get past numerous other measures (wires, etc.) before managing to fall 15 feet into a moat
13:26:31 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: And even if it was an issue that the child managed to get in, that doesn't really change the fact that there was a child actively in danger, and they had to shoot the gorilla or risk the life of the child
13:27:41 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: sure, it's normal that they shoot the gorilla, I'm just surprised that a child can get in
13:28:23 <b_jonas> because here you can observe the gorillas through these huge plexiglass windows iir
13:30:13 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: ydr, itym iirc
13:31:18 <b_jonas> yes, I just can't type.
13:36:03 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: itym ijfumk
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13:37:24 <b_jonas> by the way, what kind of drink is it that Faye just bought (in Questionable Content)? The bottle label look strange. Is it wine, beer, liquor, strong drink?
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13:51:36 <hppavilion[1]> Where's the nearest space canon terminal?
14:03:57 <hppavilion[1]> QUESTION: Who was the Walrus?
14:07:33 <b_jonas> `? walrus
14:07:41 <HackEgo> walrus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:07:54 <hppavilion[1]> *gasp*
14:07:56 <hppavilion[1]> `? the walrus
14:07:58 <HackEgo> the walrus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:10:05 <b_jonas> `? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:10:07 <HackEgo> ​¯\_(ツ)_/¯? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:10:37 <hppavilion[1]> `le/rn the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI)
14:10:48 <HackEgo> Learned «the walrus»
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14:16:41 <b_jonas> `learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary
14:16:42 <hppavilion[1]> wookipedia has an article on divorce
14:16:44 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_/¯: No such file or directory \ Learned '¯\_(ツ)_/¯': ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary
14:17:10 <hppavilion[1]> Wat?
14:17:16 <b_jonas> `? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:17:18 <HackEgo> ​¯\_(ツ)_/¯? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:17:34 <b_jonas> `mkdir wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_
14:17:35 <HackEgo> No output.
14:17:37 <b_jonas> `learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary
14:17:41 <HackEgo> Learned '¯\_(ツ)_/¯': ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary
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14:37:17 <b_jonas> `wisdom
14:37:22 <HackEgo> oic//OIC, OIC means Oh I see.
14:37:41 <b_jonas> `random-card -C\b
14:37:46 <HackEgo> Unknown Unicode option letter '\'.
14:37:54 <b_jonas> `random-card \-C\b
14:37:57 <HackEgo> Crack the Earth \ R \ Sorcery -- Arcane \ Each player sacrifices a permanent. \ BOK-C
14:38:08 <b_jonas> ``` cat bin/random-card
14:38:10 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' "$1"
14:38:47 <b_jonas> ``` sed 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card
14:38:49 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' "$1"
14:39:19 <b_jonas> huh
14:39:21 <b_jonas> oh
14:39:31 <b_jonas> ``` perl -pe 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card
14:39:33 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' -- "$1"
14:39:39 <b_jonas> ``` perl -i -pe 's/("\x241)/-- $1/' bin/random-card
14:39:42 <HackEgo> No output.
14:39:49 <b_jonas> `random-card -C\b
14:39:52 <HackEgo> Harrow \ 2G \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Harrow, sacrifice a land. \ Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ TE-U, IN-C, ZEN-C, C14-C, DDE-C, DDP-C
14:41:25 <b_jonas> hmm, that Crack the Earth is an interesting one. If I rebuild my Spirit-Arcane tribal deck I should consider it.
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16:23:14 <\oren\> shachaf: no, course not. why would computer programmers need a union?
16:23:51 <\oren\> it's not like our working conditions are dangerous
16:27:28 <\oren\> and for that matter, i'd probably get paid less if there was a union
16:27:40 <alercah> we need a union when a struct won't do
16:30:02 <\oren\> alercah: no puns
16:30:38 <\oren\> punning is bad unless it's type punning
16:41:52 <b_jonas> alercah: In the past, we didn't technically need unions, we could just alias with a char array or memcpy from it. It's only in more modern times when we actually need unions to provide a constexpr-able implementation to sum types like optional
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17:12:40 <\oren\> Dredge Ship \ UU \ Creature -- Ship \ U, sacrifice Dredge Ship: Search your library for an Island and place it on the battlefield tapped. \ 2/2 \
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17:14:48 <b_jonas> \oren\: would that be like an explorer ship?
17:14:57 <b_jonas> finding and conquering new isladns
17:16:10 <\oren\> nah, it's a Dredger ship: it dredges up sand and piles it to make an aritfical island
17:16:21 <b_jonas> \oren\: oh!
17:16:27 <\oren\> like the Chinese have been doing lately
17:16:36 <b_jonas> \oren\: but in that case why would you have to sacrifice it?
17:16:55 <\oren\> hmm, good point.
17:17:07 <\oren\> Expedition Ship
17:17:46 <\oren\> you sacrifice it because they were killed by the natives
17:18:30 <b_jonas> mind you, I have the feeling that blue shouldn't be able to do this so cheaply
17:18:39 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Silkwing Scout
17:18:46 <b_jonas> because it's very off-color to them
17:18:55 <\oren\> right
17:19:07 <HackEgo> Silkwing Scout \ 2U \ Creature -- Faerie Scout \ 2/1 \ Flying \ {G}, Sacrifice Silkwing Scout: Search your library for a basic land card and put that card onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library. \ DIS-C
17:19:07 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Embodiment of Spring
17:19:11 <HackEgo> Embodiment of Spring \ U \ Creature -- Elemental \ 0/3 \ {1}{G}, {T}, Sacrifice Embodiment of Spring: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. \ KTK-C
17:19:16 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Dreamscape Artist
17:19:18 <HackEgo> Dreamscape Artist \ 1U \ Creature -- Human Spellshaper \ 1/1 \ {2}{U}, {T}, Discard a card, Sacrifice a land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ PLC-C
17:21:07 <\oren\> a lot of cards just say land or basic land. it seems rarer to see things like 'search for a Mountain' 'sacrifice a Forest'
17:21:33 <b_jonas> \oren\: that's true, but a few restrict to a specific land type for power reasons
17:22:31 <b_jonas> Utopia Sprawl is an example, compare it to Wild Growth
17:22:49 <b_jonas> and this is even more important outside of green
17:23:35 <alercah> b_jonas: indeed
17:29:13 <\oren\> Hmm... i wonder whether a good deck could be made using only cards that cose one mana?
17:29:21 <\oren\> (and lands)
17:30:29 <b_jonas> \oren\: in what sort of format or metagame?
17:31:46 <\oren\> standard i guess?
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17:33:10 <\oren\> you'd want to go for a quick game because with only 1 mana cards you'd go through your library very quickly
17:33:41 <b_jonas> \oren\: I don't think so
17:34:04 <b_jonas> \oren\: if you want such a deck, I'd think of a combo deck rather, which is less likely to work in standard this way
17:35:17 <alercah> yes it can be done
17:35:35 <alercah> it's called bant hexproof
17:39:28 <shachaf> \oren\: that's what employers want you to think hth
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17:40:25 <alercah> shachaf: you have an option of joining a union?
17:40:55 <shachaf> I don't think so?
17:41:01 <shachaf> ais523: congrais523
17:41:17 <\oren\> Hmm well it's my understanding that unions tend to move people's pay toward the average. since mine is above the average I don't want that.
17:43:02 <\oren\> also, i defiantly don't want to pay union dues
17:43:27 <\oren\> that wasn't a typo
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17:51:40 <shachaf> What if it moved the average up?
17:51:51 <shachaf> What is the average, anyway? Maybe you're misled about the average?
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17:59:09 <\oren\> shachaf: well the average would include people who are far less competent than me
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17:59:46 <\oren\> I don't want to be lumped in with every copypasta slinger
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18:05:25 <\oren\> also, in general I have a bad impression of unions because they have ruined Toronto
18:06:19 <\oren\> I still remember when the garbage people struck and the city smelled of rotting food for weeks
18:06:48 <\oren\> even now the construction unions are sucking our municipal funds dry
18:07:04 <ais523> when the garbage people went on strike here on the UK the government hired temp workers to do the garbage collection
18:07:12 <ais523> and apparently they were both cheaper and faser than the actual official garbage collectors
18:07:14 <ais523> *faster
18:09:14 <alercah> \oren\: public sector unions suck
18:09:19 <alercah> private sector unions are ok usually
18:09:32 <alercah> problem with public sector unions is they have like nothing to lose
18:09:39 <alercah> they can't drive a government out of business
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18:17:44 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Livewire Lash
18:17:56 <HackEgo> Livewire Lash \ 2 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and has "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell, this creature deals 2 damage to target creature or player." \ Equip {2} \ SOM-R
18:17:58 <b_jonas> that sounds dangerous
18:18:14 <b_jonas> I need that card
18:18:24 <b_jonas> oh!
18:18:28 <b_jonas> target of a SPELL!
18:18:32 <b_jonas> not target of a spell or ability
18:18:34 <b_jonas> right
18:18:41 <b_jonas> they aren't that stupid
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18:32:26 <hppavilion[1]> Verdict of the SECOHE: Islam is not really "the" religion of peace- many Muslims are peaceful, but that isn't because of their religion, it's because they weren't douchebags to begin with; similarly, violent Muslims would probably be violent anyway, but Islam gives them a more clear way to channel it. The peace- and the violence- comes from the people, not from the religion
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18:46:58 <izabera> http://eidogo.com/#A30WVDXD enjoy :P
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19:00:21 <\oren\> I redesigned http://www.orenwatson.be/allfiles.htm to cope with directories! now not everything has to be in /var/www/html
19:01:46 <int-e> someone on ##math mentioned http://euclidthegame.com/ ... I think some people here might enjoy it (constructive geometry)
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19:13:34 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: This is the best thing ever
19:13:57 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: I've always wanted to learn c/se, but it seemed like the most boring thing I could possibly do, so I didn't
19:14:38 <shachaf> \oren\: I think many programmers are overpaid compared to the value they provide to society, but underpaid compared to the value they provide to their employers.
19:15:09 <shachaf> I'm pretty sure that goes for me right now. Probably for you. Who knows.
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19:20:23 <\oren\> yeh.
19:24:25 <hppavilion[1]> ansi.ans is a rather terrifying filename
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19:45:27 <myname> sna.isna
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20:12:05 <\oren\> i use .ans to mean a file with ansi color escapes in it
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20:21:58 <wob_jonas> Why are the logos for SQLite and Apache basically the same?
20:31:37 <wob_jonas> Time to donate to SGDQ!
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21:04:09 <int-e> wob = waste of bandwidth, hmm?
21:04:38 <int-e> `quote wob
21:05:11 <wob_jonas> int-e: no, wob as in http://www.xkcd.com/148/ because it's through a web-based irc client
21:05:17 <HackEgo> No output.
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21:07:49 <myname> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deadgentlemen/the-gamers-episode-1?ref=project_link :o
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21:33:17 <\oren\> i wish tmux would detect somehow that there's another tmux inside it and seamlessly integrate
21:33:52 <wob_jonas> \oren\: hmm.... that would be interesting, but I think it should be optional
21:34:15 <\oren\> ok, maybe there would be a button like ctrl-b alt-i that integrates
21:34:33 <wob_jonas> \oren\: right, or a configuration option or command-line switch or something
21:34:44 <\oren\> actually that would be much easier than it automatically detecting itself
21:35:06 <wob_jonas> why? detecting automatically isn't actually difficult
21:36:06 <wob_jonas> you just need an option and command for actually integrating IF it detects
21:36:57 <wob_jonas> I guess you could even integrate it in some of those crazy tabbed terminal emulators people use, with a proper protocol.
21:38:50 <\oren\> oh, i see, it would send a quick recognition string when it starts up
21:39:07 <wob_jonas> \oren\: yes
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22:36:06 <wob_jonas> `wisdom
22:36:40 <HackEgo> mroman//mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare.
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22:42:40 <myname> wat
22:42:50 <myname> i should invent something, too
22:44:31 <wob_jonas> myname: it's usually Taneb who invents things here
22:44:37 <wob_jonas> be careful not to invent the same things as he did
22:45:13 <myname> i don't care!
22:45:25 <myname> at best i am like schönfinkel
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23:01:58 <\oren\> i nvented the rubblesort
23:03:44 <\oren\> it is a bubblesort but instead of iterating over the array you do them in a random order each pass
23:04:53 <\oren\> this makes the rubblesort immune to malicious input while retaining the bubblesort's raw performance
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23:09:56 <boily> he\\oren\.
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23:23:13 <moon-moon> \/\\\/\\/\
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23:27:47 <boily> mhelloon-mhelloon!
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00:15:34 <boily> `wisdom
00:15:43 <HackEgo> php//php is the PigeonHole Principle
00:16:54 <quintopia> bon soily
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00:18:24 <quintopia> how goeth the postal shrike?
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00:22:58 <quintopia> hellørjan
00:23:54 <oerjan> queventopinga
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00:24:56 <oerjan> kaixoily
00:25:01 <quintopia> queven topinga?
00:25:12 <quintopia> you mean topanga? topanga matthews?
00:25:18 <oerjan> no.
00:25:30 <oerjan> i don't know topanga matthews, sorry.
00:25:54 <quintopia> topanga lawrence?
00:26:05 <quintopia> (that would be the premarital topanga)
00:26:23 <oerjan> no.
00:26:38 <oerjan> i don't usually watch tv, for a start.
00:27:10 <quintopia> sure sure. for a second, you don't watch american tv.
00:27:26 <quintopia> for a third, you're antediluvian.
00:27:39 <quintopia> but we can always pretend you understand these things
00:27:48 <oerjan> i'm not sure there's that much difference as far as soaps are considered.
00:28:24 <quintopia> boy meets world would not be considered particularly soapy hth
00:28:25 <oerjan> although i hear norway has produced more soaps after i stopped watching.
00:28:33 <oerjan> well i wouldn't know, would i?
00:28:46 <quintopia> so tdh
00:29:05 <quintopia> yw
00:29:19 <oerjan> thx
00:38:09 <oerjan> `? porthello
00:38:15 <HackEgo> porthello? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:41:16 <oerjan> `? thé
00:41:19 <HackEgo> Thé is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in the Commonwealth.
00:41:40 <oerjan> `le/rn porthello/Hellonfused one. Porthellos are the standard greeting format in #esoteric. Best enjoyed with some thé or caffè and a fternooner.
00:41:44 <HackEgo> Learned «porthello»
00:43:25 <boily> quinthellopia! the strike is crippling my chi.
00:43:34 <oerjan> there's a strike?
00:43:36 <boily> hellørjan.
00:43:46 <boily> there's even a lockout. complete nonsense.
00:44:13 <quintopia> been watching any sgdq?
00:44:26 <boily> Some Games Done Quick?
00:44:32 <oerjan> i'm sure the OQLF mandates strikes to keep the cultural connection.
00:45:00 <quintopia> summer
00:45:11 <quintopia> i'll take that as a no
00:46:17 <oerjan> boily: are you, yourself, on strike?
00:46:33 <oerjan> or is it just the general environment of nothing working
00:47:30 <boily> quintopia: are there any hilites from this year?
00:48:11 <boily> oerjan: no, it's just Summer. praise be unto the Orange Cone.
00:49:15 <oerjan> ah.
00:49:32 <oerjan> in norway, strikes are usually in late spring.
00:50:05 <oerjan> since that's when most (all?) tariff agreements are renegotiated.
00:50:12 <quintopia> boily: i missed a blindfold run of castlevania sotn
00:50:42 <quintopia> boily: there's a tas on saturday of smb 1,2, and 3 all simultaneously from the same input sequence
00:50:50 <oerjan> which does wonders for the exam period when teachers are involved.
00:51:07 <quintopia> boily: super meat boy in half an hour
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00:52:09 <quintopia> boily: blind kaizo smm race on friday that i will have to miss at work :(
00:52:25 <quintopia> (team races are so fun to watch)
00:52:43 <oerjan> apropos kaizo, i think boily missed my porthello.
00:53:48 <quintopia> yes apparently
00:55:37 <boily> I missed it >_>'...
00:55:50 <boily> HELKOen.
00:56:50 * oerjan briefly ponders the porthello singularity, but realizes making them _totally_ impenetrable is probably too easy.
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01:05:03 <quintopia> time to go home so not to miss the smb run
01:05:49 <FireFly> Hehe
01:06:02 <FireFly> I missed the blindfolded SOTN too, will have to watch it tomorrow
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01:53:55 <oerjan> `cat bin/learn
01:54:01 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
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01:55:44 <shachaf> `ls tmp
01:55:49 <HackEgo> args \ fruit \ sh \ spline \ spout \ tempcmd \ testcmd \ tmp_jonas
01:56:04 <oerjan> `cat bin/slashlearn
01:56:05 <HackEgo> sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»"
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01:56:41 <shachaf> `? the
01:56:43 <HackEgo> the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure
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01:57:33 <oerjan> `sled bin/learn//>.wisdom.topic./>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")"/
01:57:34 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `>'
01:57:37 <oerjan> argh
01:58:01 <oerjan> `sled bin/learn//s,>.wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")",
01:58:02 <HackEgo> bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
01:58:10 <oerjan> dammit
01:58:43 <oerjan> `sled bin/learn//s,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")",
01:58:44 <HackEgo> bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
01:58:56 <oerjan> something is wrong.
02:01:21 <oerjan> `` sed 's,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")",' bin/learn
02:01:23 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
02:01:23 <adu> oerjan: the banksters have taken over wall street?
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02:02:15 <oerjan> `` sed 's,[>].wisdom.topic.,>"\$(echo-p "wisdom/\$topic")",' bin/learn
02:02:16 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
02:02:28 <oerjan> oh
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02:02:38 <oerjan> `sled bin/learn//s,[>].wisdom..topic.,>"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")",
02:02:41 <HackEgo> bin/learn//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1"
02:03:01 <oerjan> `learn te/sting is important.
02:03:05 <HackEgo> Learned 'te/sting': te/sting is important.
02:03:08 <adu> oerjan: the sun is too hot?
02:03:12 <oerjan> `? te/sting
02:03:14 <HackEgo> te/sting is important.
02:03:22 <oerjan> adu: i forgot a character in my sed pattern.
02:03:30 <oerjan> `forget te/sting
02:03:33 <adu> oerjan: oh ok
02:03:34 <tswett> `? te
02:03:35 <HackEgo> Forget what?
02:03:36 <HackEgo> te? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:03:46 <tswett> `ls wisdom/te
02:03:47 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wisdom/te: No such file or directory
02:04:02 <oerjan> tswett: `forget cleans up parent directories
02:04:12 <tswett> `cat bin/forget
02:04:13 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ rm-p "wisdom/$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z)" \ echo "Forget what?"
02:04:26 <tswett> I was thinking "Forget what?" was an error message.
02:04:33 <tswett> > sum . replicate 10 $ 0.1
02:04:34 <oerjan> no, just an inside joke.
02:04:35 <lambdabot> 0.9999999999999999
02:05:02 <tswett> > grain
02:05:03 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘grain’
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02:19:24 <adu> oerjan: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fJFtYlv544n7DdqGBDVT1TRRE2HxW0JKH2blUbnmJyQtgKrexGHVrRuO6Sv1Q1oO2uPGaR0lkucpNvvew8B5euD95gI7sIahwt2gTSvAgr9ElLCHlhM
02:20:27 <tswett> > let mid x y z = min (max x y) (max (min x y) z) in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1]
02:20:28 <lambdabot> [2,2,2,2,2,2]
02:21:08 <oerjan> > let mid x y z = sort [x,y,z} !! 1 in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1]
02:21:10 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:28: parse error on input ‘}’
02:21:13 <oerjan> gah
02:21:23 <oerjan> > let mid x y z = sort [x,y,z] !! 1 in [mid 1 2 3, mid 1 3 2, mid 2 1 3, mid 2 3 1, mid 3 1 2, mid 3 2 1]
02:21:24 <lambdabot> [2,2,2,2,2,2]
02:21:28 <oerjan> stupid keyboard
02:24:58 <oerjan> `? the walrus
02:25:01 <HackEgo> ​/In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI)
02:25:21 <oerjan> `slwd the walrus//s,.,,
02:25:24 <HackEgo> wisdom/the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI)
02:25:40 <oerjan> `slwd the walrus//s,$,.,
02:25:43 <HackEgo> wisdom/the walrus//In order to obtain the unredacted documents specifying the true identity of the walrus, contact the Glass Onion (mailing address: UH2BEStWmPI).
02:27:28 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas i fixed `learn so it creates parent directories like the other versions.
02:27:28 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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02:51:00 <hppavilion[1]> Quote from Wikipedia: This is an allusion to the Ray Bradbury novel Fahrenheit 451 and possibly the film thereof, 451 °F (233 °C) being equivalent to 232 Centigrade.
02:51:17 <hppavilion[1]> Apparently, 233 and 232 are really the same number
02:51:53 <pikhq> Depends on if you round up or down.
02:52:06 <pikhq> 451F is 232.778C.
02:55:42 <oerjan> well at least it continues the tradition of messing up the numbers
02:57:04 <oerjan> (iirc the temperature that the book was supposed to be named after is 451 °C)
02:57:31 <hppavilion[1]> `? the old
02:57:36 <HackEgo> the old? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:57:47 <lifthrasiir> > (In reality, scientists place the autoignition temperature of paper anywhere from high 440 degrees Fahrenheit to some 30 degrees hotter, depending on the study and type of paper.)
02:57:48 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:60: parse error on input ‘of’
02:58:02 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: No, it's roughly 451 F, though studies put it from 440 to... more
02:58:06 <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, lifthrasiir
02:58:10 <oerjan> oh
02:58:15 <lifthrasiir> okay, I'm running out of good prefix-quotation punctuation
02:58:24 <lifthrasiir> | I guess this was also in use
02:58:33 <lifthrasiir> ...or it isn't?
02:58:34 <oerjan> shockingly, it seems not
02:58:42 <oerjan> ^prefixes
02:58:42 <fungot> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
02:58:46 <lifthrasiir> oh
02:58:49 <lifthrasiir> j-bot was [
02:58:50 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Really, it's not a meddling issue so much as a why-the-fuck-did-a-SF-writer-use-Fahrenheit issue
02:58:54 <lifthrasiir> I thought it was |
02:59:01 <tswett> So I want to write a method that, given a bunch of symbols labeled with nonnegative floating point numbers, selects a random symbol, with each symbol's probability being proportional to the number.
02:59:03 <lifthrasiir> should learn to stick to it
02:59:08 <hppavilion[1]> I voe that all quote prefixes from now on be $Q((U$&
02:59:27 <tswett> I'm not sure what sort of algorithm to use.
02:59:52 <hppavilion[1]> tswett: I don't know, but I have the sneaking feeling godel is going to fuck this up somehow. I would be impressed, but not surprised
02:59:56 <tswett> The algorithm doesn't have to be exact by any means. But it also shouldn't be something that crashes.
03:00:11 <tswett> hppavilion[1]: this is definitely computable.
03:00:24 <hppavilion[1]> tswett: That's what we always think
03:01:58 <tswett> By the way, the symbols are bytes. There are always exactly 256 of them.
03:04:04 <oerjan> tswett: sum the probabilities for a symbol and the previous ones. then make a table, select a random number from 0 to the total sum, and do binary search.
03:04:40 <oerjan> you might want to divide the probabilities by the total sum to make it 1.
03:05:28 <oerjan> well, this is assuming you'll use the same probabilities for several samplings.
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03:06:04 <tswett> Hmm. According to the documentation...
03:06:17 <tswett> The difference between cumsum and cumsumi is that cumsum is in-place and cumsumi is not.
03:06:26 <tswett> The difference between div and divi is that divi is in-place and div is not.
03:06:34 <tswett> Anyone notice something odd there?
03:06:40 <oerjan> you'd think.
03:07:03 <oerjan> i have a hunch the first is switched.
03:07:06 <tswett> I'm just going to trust the documentation even though it seems like it can't possibly be right.
03:07:10 <oerjan> *first pair
03:07:40 <tswett> I really wish they'd just used names like "cumSumInPlace" and "divInPlace".
03:08:44 <oerjan> cumulative sum sounds like the thing, anyway
03:11:51 <oerjan> (assuming that's like haskell scanl1 (+))
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03:19:48 <tswett> > scanl1 (+) [1,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,2,2,2,2,2]
03:19:50 <lambdabot> [1,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,26,28,30,32,34]
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05:15:49 <\oren\> Thank goodness, I'm not the only one who noticed that Michelangelo had no idea what a woman looks like
05:19:13 <adu> lol
05:20:16 <\oren\> (I was looking at a "3d interactive panorama" of the sistine chapel and noticed that Eve was looking a little.. manly)
05:28:49 <\oren\> Raphael on the other hand, appears to know what women look like
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06:14:35 <izabera> michelangelo was gay
06:21:41 <hppavilion[1]> `` grep -P '(.)\1{2}' /usr/share/dict/words
06:22:44 <HackEgo> grep: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory
06:23:52 <hppavilion[1]> *gasp*
06:24:01 <izabera> y u no grep -E
06:25:34 <shachaf> `` grep -P '(.)\1{2}' share/dict-words
06:25:42 <HackEgo> KKK's \ WWW's
06:25:51 <shachaf> Why {2} rather than \1?
06:27:52 <\oren\> `random-card
06:28:04 <HackEgo> Iridescent Drake \ 3U \ Creature -- Drake \ 2/2 \ Flying \ When Iridescent Drake enters the battlefield, put target Aura card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control attached to Iridescent Drake. \ UD-U
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07:45:17 <hppavilion[1]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Genocide is... interesting
07:45:21 <hppavilion[1]> "Issues"
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07:50:57 <izabera> how dare they label things as issues
07:51:09 <izabera> so disrespectful
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07:53:31 <hppavilion[1]> "It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
07:53:46 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: It's just weird word choice
07:54:00 <hppavilion[1]> It makes it sound like it's a debate xD
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08:33:47 <izabera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg
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09:39:57 <izabera> http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/xterm-problems.html good read
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10:44:36 * FireFly looks
10:45:12 <FireFly> Should I read "xterms" as "teminal emulators supposed to be compatible with xterm"?
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10:45:33 <FireFly> hm no, looks like forks of xterm
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10:52:01 <FireFly> Speaking of terminal emulators, http://www.leonerd.org.uk/hacks/fixterms/
11:02:27 <b_jonas> FireFly: I actually don't completely like that proposal. Some of it makes sense, but some of it should be optional and active only when an app requests that mode with an escape sequence and the user allows it: I like the fact that c-M, c-J, c-?, c-H, c-I can be entered in two ways, and especially like the fact that space can be entered as shift-space.
11:03:39 <FireFly> Mmm, fair
11:05:08 <b_jonas> Also, the proposal seems half-done, because it doesn't mention what should happen with some of the control-numbers, which are sometimes mapped so that c-3 c-4 c-5 c-7 are an alias of c-\ c-[ c-] c-_ in some order
11:12:27 <b_jonas> (Nor does it seem to mention the key codes starting with "\eO", despite that those matter for the timing info too.)
11:13:52 <int-e> that wasn't a good read... there is a reasonable complaint in there but wading through the insults was tiresome
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11:34:20 <hppavilion[1]> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Feb1712.jpg is my new favorite 1712 swedish calendar
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11:40:29 <hppavilion[1]> 9/2932 never forget
11:42:10 <hppavilion[1]> Ugh, it's annoying when you look for something with EXACT times and they don't include seconds
11:45:31 <hppavilion[1]> 1000212400 never forget
11:45:34 <hppavilion[1]> There we go
11:45:39 <hppavilion[1]> Am I a bad person yet?
11:48:42 <myname> nah
11:49:13 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Darn
11:53:40 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Where could I go that the people there would be offended, but only a couple could figure out that they should be, and would have a hard time explaining it to everyone else?
11:54:11 <myname> ground zero
11:55:09 <hppavilion[1]> myname: I mean in terms of an IRC channel
11:55:35 <myname> ah
11:55:37 <myname> dunno
11:56:12 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: probably anywhere if you make an obscure enough joke
11:56:25 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: True
11:56:30 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: I'm going to find if the GOP has an IRC
11:56:39 <b_jonas> an obscure and hard to explain one that is
11:56:58 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: Unix timestamps
11:57:05 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: Does that qualify?
11:59:09 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: the hard part is making the joke hard to _explain_, not just hard to recognize
12:02:39 <deltab> I've noticed a program look for ~/.terminfo
12:05:10 <hppavilion[1]> There, I'm using the message *nix.1000212400<3
12:05:19 <hppavilion[1]> Anybody who gets it has earned my eternal respect
12:05:26 <hppavilion[1]> (outside of programmer circles)
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12:10:40 <b_jonas> deltab: yes, that's the directory where programs using terminfo databases look for user (not system) terminfo description files, unless the program is set[gu]id or you set the TERMINFO env-var. See the terminfo(5) manual from ncurses.
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12:13:00 <myname> feminists are easy to insult
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13:28:37 <hppavilion[1]> What's the easiest way to fuck with the rules of mohammed-drawing?
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13:37:26 <hppavilion[1]> OK, I seem to be missing something with xkcd garden
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14:02:35 <hppavilion[1]> That moment when Safety Dance unexpectedly starts playing in the background
14:04:12 <hppavilion[1]> In the future, everyone will have brain implants that improve our understandings of music theory and composition and gives us minor telepathic powers for song syncronization
14:07:28 <izabera> https://vimeo.com/161783929/dba6a42ad3 knuth is so cute
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14:43:52 <b_jonas> `olist 1043
14:44:58 <HackEgo> olist 1043: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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17:03:16 <\oren\> the fact that he wants to take the xterm developers and "bend them over and have at it" could be taken in multiple ways.
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18:34:11 <\oren\> I don't think i've ever used an xterm-based terminal
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19:37:41 <izabera> error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement
19:37:43 <izabera> I HATE THIS
19:38:17 <izabera> it's the most idiotic limitation they could come up with
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19:38:42 <izabera> the single most pointless stupid dumb limitation in the whole history of programming languages
19:42:24 <izabera> fg
19:42:28 <izabera> wrong windo
19:42:30 <izabera> w
19:47:10 <\oren\> just put a ; after all labels
19:47:33 <\oren\> this works unless you're in a one line if statement
19:52:27 <izabera> but whyyyyy
19:52:32 <izabera> why do i have to do this
19:52:42 <izabera> why is this stupid rule there in the first place
19:55:55 <\oren\> originally, you had declarations at the start of a function, and statements after that. mixing them at all was an extension to c90, adopted only in c99
19:56:15 <izabera> it's been 40 years since "originally"
19:56:22 <\oren\> no, only 26
19:56:33 <izabera> "only"
19:59:26 <\oren\> `` echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -xc -otest -
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20:00:15 <\oren\> `` echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -std=c90 -xc -otest -
20:00:47 <HackEgo> No output.
20:00:49 <izabera> unrelated: how do i get a readable fd from a fd opened with O_PATH ?
20:00:56 <HackEgo> No output.
20:01:56 <\oren\> `` echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main(){printf("hello\\n");int i=30;printf("this won'\''t work\\n");}' | gcc -std=c90 -pedantic -xc -otest -
20:02:16 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>: In function ‘main’: \ <stdin>:2:30: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code [-pedantic]
20:02:22 <\oren\> there we go
20:02:26 <shachaf> \oren\: Why write to the root directory rather than to tmp/?
20:02:34 <shachaf> That way you're putting it in hg history.
20:02:37 <shachaf> Pretty scow move if you ask me.
20:03:01 <\oren\> `? scow
20:03:04 <HackEgo> Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
20:03:17 <shachaf> `cwlprits scow
20:03:28 <HackEgo> oerjan
20:03:40 <\oren\> `? culprits
20:03:42 <gamemanj> `? cons
20:03:46 <HackEgo> ​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY
20:03:48 <HackEgo> cons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:04:01 <\oren\> `? cwlprits
20:04:03 <HackEgo> cwlprits? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:04:28 <gamemanj> `learn cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. they then live on sunlight and grass.
20:04:34 <HackEgo> Learned 'con': cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. they then live on sunlight and grass.
20:04:47 <shachaf> I don't get it.
20:05:03 <shachaf> What I know is that it doesn't live up to the guidelines.
20:05:10 <\oren\> shachaf: lisp was mentioned recently
20:05:31 <shachaf> Yes, but that wisdom entry appears to have no redeeming value.
20:05:43 <gamemanj> in which case, feel free to alter/remove it
20:05:45 <alercah> there are guidelines?
20:05:45 <shachaf> But I could just be missing it.
20:06:01 <shachaf> Yes. For example the guideline that says that you capitalize sentences.
20:06:15 <shachaf> I can remove it, but maybe I'm missing something.
20:06:17 <alercah> `? guidelines
20:06:19 <\oren\> `? sentence
20:06:19 <HackEgo> guidelines? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:06:21 <HackEgo> sentence? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:06:51 <gamemanj> `learn Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence.
20:06:54 <\oren\> you must capitalize SENTENCES whenever it appears in a wisdom entry
20:06:55 <HackEgo> Relearned 'con': Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence.
20:07:08 <shachaf> I don't get it.
20:07:24 <\oren\> shachaf: do you know lisp
20:07:41 <shachaf> More or less.
20:08:16 <\oren\> cons is the function that takes two arguments and makes a 2-tuple of them
20:08:41 <shachaf> I know that.
20:09:00 <\oren\> that's the joke
20:09:24 <shachaf> What's the joke?
20:10:15 <\oren\> AAAAAAAA wai don tyu gedit?
20:10:59 <shachaf> What's funny?
20:11:19 <\oren\> `? cons
20:11:22 <HackEgo> Cons are small mammals which, shortly after birth, eat two other mammals. They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence.
20:11:24 <\oren\> that's funny
20:11:42 <shachaf> Which part?
20:11:45 <shachaf> Sunlight and grass?
20:12:01 <\oren\> imagining the cons as cute little bunnies or somehting
20:12:09 <\oren\> it's funny
20:12:42 <shachaf> you are mistaken hth
20:13:10 <MDude> We don't need to hide the hats?
20:13:27 <shachaf> On the other hand, the other day a person insisted that the joke at the top of http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/bignumbers.html isn't funny.
20:13:38 <shachaf> I didn't understand that. It's a good joke.
20:15:26 <int-e> well it made me laugh.
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20:16:21 <shachaf> The cons?
20:16:35 <int-e> the numbers
20:17:25 <int-e> not sure about the cons... certainly didn't make me laugh
20:17:58 <shachaf> Ah. I agree.
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20:20:34 <MDude> I set out to make a program in that goes through each counting number, and finds the position of that number's least signifigant binary 1 digit.
20:20:58 <int-e> "counting number"... natural number?
20:21:01 <MDude> But for some reason I'm not able to actually accomplush that?
20:21:12 <int-e> MDude: it won't terminate on 0 hth
20:21:14 <MDude> Baby number? Froth number?
20:21:53 <MDude> Counting numbers ar enatural numbers, sure.
20:21:54 <shachaf> int-e: A counting number is a number used by Count von Count.
20:22:01 <shachaf> He starts counting at 1, so 0 is no problem.
20:22:45 <MDude> Yes, I meant the set that starts with 1.
20:23:33 <int-e> > fix ((1:) . (>>= \x -> [x + 1, 1]))
20:23:35 <lambdabot> [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2...
20:24:50 <MDude> Now, what language is that program?
20:25:12 <MDude> I guess lambda calculus?
20:25:14 <int-e> > fix (concat . transpose . (repeat 1 :) . return . fmap succ) -- roughly the same with a more versatile dictionary
20:25:16 <lambdabot> [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2...
20:26:04 <int-e> lambdabot speaks Haskell
20:26:18 <MDude> I, unfortunately, don't.
20:26:25 <int-e> in any case you didn't specify a programming language.
20:27:02 <MDude> I was looking for an algorithm, not code. :p
20:27:34 <int-e> (arguably I'm cheating because I'm using the fact that the ruler function returns the results of the ruler function, plus one, interleaved with ones.
20:27:38 <int-e> )
20:27:47 <shachaf> How do you want the algorithm specified?
20:28:25 <MDude> Basically I'm trying to make a ruler function to begin with, actually.
20:28:52 <MDude> Because I forgot that just plugging in a name like that would probably get me a result on Wikipedia.
20:29:40 <int-e> > fix((1:).(>>=(:[1]).succ)
20:29:41 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:26:
20:29:42 <lambdabot> parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
20:29:59 <int-e> > fix((1:).(>>=(:[1]).succ))
20:30:01 <lambdabot> [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2...
20:33:40 <MDude> In this particular case, I'm currently trying to use Smilebasic, but the intent is to emit beeps with frequencies proportional to the result of the ruler function for the value of the time passed since the program began.
20:33:49 <MDude> Since I figure that would sound somewhat muisical.
20:33:50 <int-e> :t popCount
20:33:51 <lambdabot> Bits a => a -> Int
20:34:07 <\oren\> #include "stdio.h"
20:34:07 <\oren\> int f(int x){printf("%d",x);g(x-1);}
20:34:07 <\oren\> int g(int y){int x;for(x=0;x<=y;x++)f(x);}
20:34:08 <\oren\> int main(){g(6);}
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20:34:53 <int-e> > map(succ.popCount.pred.ap(.&.)negate)[1..]
20:34:54 <lambdabot> [1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,5,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,6,1,2,1,3,1,2...
20:36:02 <\oren\> Hmm mine has a base case of 0 but otherwise seems correct
20:36:25 <\oren\> 0102010301020104010201030102010501020103010201040102010301020106010201030102010401020103010201050102010301020104010201030102010
20:36:53 <int-e> so change the x=0 to x=1
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20:37:30 <\oren\> int-e: yeah, then i just need to be able to pass infinity into g()
20:38:10 <int-e> or replace it by for(int x=1;;x++)f(x);
20:38:24 <\oren\> right in the main loop
20:38:46 <int-e> yes, "it" being the contents of the main function
20:38:49 <int-e> sorry.
20:39:44 <\oren\> MDude: does my mutual recursive function help or does SmileBasic not support recursion
20:40:24 <MDude> It supports recursion. Thanks, I hadn't thought to use functions for this.
20:40:38 <MDude> I'll go see if I can translate it.
20:41:19 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:41:20 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:41:22 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:41:22 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:41:23 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:41:31 <MDude> Though if the C version can get stuffed into one line, it migth work as a bytebeat program.
20:41:40 <shachaf> `help
20:41:48 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
20:41:52 <int-e> all this is ridiculous if you know that x86 (since the 486) have a builtin ruler function (more precisely, a function that can find the "next" set bit to the left or the right in a register, given a startin position)
20:42:06 <HackEgo> No output.
20:42:23 <int-e> ah, unbalanced parenthesis. I'll surely hear about it from oerjan, later. )
20:42:54 <shachaf> [
20:43:16 <shachaf>
20:43:27 <MDude> Guess I should switch to using x86 assambly then?
20:43:31 <shachaf> `icode ⟅
20:44:02 <HackEgo> No output.
20:44:03 <HackEgo> quote//Quotes are just elements of the quantum dilapidated bogosphere. See qdb.
20:44:04 <\oren\>
20:44:10 <HackEgo> composition//composition is where you take morphisms such as Phantom and Hoover from the Pha category and combine them together: Hoover ∘ Phantom.
20:44:10 <HackEgo> remorse//.--. . --- .--. .-.. . / .-- .. - .... / -. --- / .-. . -- --- .-. ... . / .. -. ... .. ... - / --- -. / ... .- -.-- .. -. --. / . ...- . .-. -.-- - .... .. -. --. / .. -. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . --..-- / -... ..- - / --- -. .-.. -.-- / --- -. -.-. . .-.-.-
20:44:12 <HackEgo> ​[U+27C5 LEFT S-SHAPED BAG DELIMITER]
20:45:18 <\oren\>
20:45:20 <\oren\>
20:45:49 <\oren\>
20:45:54 <\oren\>
20:45:56 <\oren\>
20:46:40 <int-e> gcc has __builtin_ctz() to count trailing zeros
20:47:15 <\oren\> int-e: yeah but that won't work above 64
20:48:08 <\oren\> although we'd never actually witness its failure
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20:48:27 <int-e> I'd expect it to work for int128_t
20:48:36 <int-e> but I don't know :P
20:49:47 <shachaf> Why wouldn't you witness failure about 64?
20:51:15 <\oren\> because the program would have to run until it gets there
20:51:36 <shachaf> What's wrong with that?
20:51:51 <\oren\> i'll be dead
20:52:26 <\oren\> 2^64 seconds is much longer than anyone can expect to live
20:53:00 <shachaf> Wait, seconds?
20:53:34 <shachaf> I must've missed something about seconds.
20:53:54 <\oren\> yes. the program is emitting beeps with frequency proportional to the ruler function of the time passed since it was started
20:54:07 <shachaf> beep
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20:55:03 <\oren\> boop bap boop beep boop bap boop bip boop bap boop beep boop bap boop
20:55:41 <\oren\> see? frequency proportional to the ruler function
20:58:30 <\oren\> hellwob_jonas!
21:03:05 <MDude> Trying to translate the C code into Basic, currently getting a stack overfow error.
21:03:45 <MDude> Which I expect to eventually get, but before that ti's a strong of all zeroes.
21:17:10 <MDude> Maybe Smilebasic is dumb when ti comes to using loops withing a recursive function?
21:19:28 <wob_jonas> MDude: what code?
21:19:34 <wob_jonas> and what dialect of basic?
21:19:49 <MDude> \oren\'s code.
21:19:57 <MDude> [15:34:15] <\oren\> #include "stdio.h"
21:19:57 <MDude> [15:34:15] <\oren\> int f(int x){printf("%d",x);g(x-1);}
21:19:57 <MDude> [15:34:15] <\oren\> int g(int y){int x;for(x=0;x<=y;x++)f(x);}
21:19:57 <MDude> [15:34:15] <\oren\> int main(){g(6);}
21:20:24 <MDude> And this one: http://smilebasic.com/
21:20:47 <MDude> I can't use x86 stuff with it since it's for a portable game consol.e
21:20:50 <MDude> *console
21:21:49 <int-e> Clearly you need to write an x86 emulator first... :P
21:21:49 <MDude> But that's just the language I was playing with most recently. IBNIZ or bytebeat would work too.
21:22:07 <wob_jonas> guys, when PayPal says the customer service phone number has the service hours are "8.00 and 4.30 GMT Monday to Friday", does that mean they are intervals between 08:00 UTC and 04:30 UTC when the start of the interval falls on Monday to Friday? Or intervals between 08:00 and 16:30 UTC on Monday to Friday?
21:22:07 <wob_jonas> or something else entirely?
21:22:20 <MDude> Bytebeat being a one-line C program that can run on something like http://wurstcaptures.untergrund.net/music/
21:23:05 <int-e> . o O ( you have to call at precisely those times )
21:26:35 <wob_jonas> int-e: apart from how it's impossible to call at precisely a given time, it says specifically "Our Service Hours"
21:27:12 <wob_jonas> MDude: and can you show us your Basic translation?
21:27:50 <int-e> 'Poland PayPal phone number: 00 353 1 436 9001; 08:00 - 16:30 GMT Monday - Friday'
21:28:23 <wob_jonas> int-e: I see. That seems clearer.
21:28:23 <int-e> random, unaffiliated page, cross-check with another source
21:28:42 <wob_jonas> sure, the phone number *is* here, I will use that
21:28:47 <int-e> but at least it's clearly a range in that version.
21:28:53 <wob_jonas> and it can reasonably be different in different countries
21:29:13 <wob_jonas> and they could even have different service hours for different combinations of countries and/or languages
21:30:01 <int-e> they do, apparently
21:30:21 <int-e> but perhaps they've combined several "small" countries and are handling them from the same call center
21:30:38 <int-e> (using GMT is a bit odd, imho)
21:30:39 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes
21:30:59 <wob_jonas> why? using GMT totally makes sense
21:31:04 <wob_jonas> I can use paypal from different timezones
21:34:49 <int-e> well, they list local times for many other countries
21:43:20 <wob_jonas> MDude: this seems like a strange an powerful dialect of Basic
21:43:55 <wob_jonas> strange in the sense that it has strange syntax for constructs that already have different syntax in other Basics
21:45:24 <wob_jonas> MDude: anyway, I'd like to see your translation
21:46:20 <wob_jonas> and powerful in the sense that it has a lot of useful builtins that other basics don't have
21:48:04 <wob_jonas> I wonder what numeric type(s) this has
21:49:30 <wob_jonas> "This product uses double-precision real-type numbers or integers to represent values internally." -- they could be a bit more concrete than that...
21:51:31 <wob_jonas> but maybe I'm jut not familiar with enough dialects of basic
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22:12:57 <int-e> heh, ARM has an instruction for counting leading zeros (since v5?)... and one for reversing bits... (since v6?)
22:14:57 <wob_jonas> int-e: sure, ARM actually has more choices of vector instructions and strange integer operations (including simd ones) on general registers than x86 before AVX2, possibly even than x86 before AVX512
22:15:52 <wob_jonas> as in, although the x86 instruction set is powerful enough for most practical programs, the ARM ones are more orthogonal and have a lot of sort of redundant instructions
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22:17:14 <wob_jonas> but mind you, x86 has had instruction for counting leading zeros in a general register since way back in 386, and had a new (better) instruction for that in future versions too, and also has a general register big reverse instruction in some recent instruction set extension
22:17:45 <wob_jonas> int-e: the leading zero count is actually very useful (bit reverse comes up much less often)
22:18:48 <int-e> the reason I found this is that together they can count trailing zeros, which is essentially the ruler function
22:19:18 <wob_jonas> as in, bit reverse has very few applications, and enough efficient ways to emulate from other instructions that it doesn't seem to be too useful an addition, although it's sort of borderline
22:20:04 <wob_jonas> int-e: x86 has both count leading and count trailing zeros functions
22:20:09 <wob_jonas> as instructions
22:20:31 <int-e> hmm maybe bit reversal is good for indexing into the results of medium-sized FFTs.
22:20:48 <int-e> wob_jonas: see above.
22:21:31 <int-e> they do more, actually; bsf and bsr find the next/previous set bit in a word from a starting index.
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22:22:12 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, but that doesn't add too much more power (together with other instructions that is)
22:22:36 <int-e> it was more powerful in the 90s when they were introduced :P
22:25:08 <int-e> and then there's the very CISCy bt (bit test) instruction... it's harmless enough on registers... used on memory, it actually supports larger offsets than 32 (or 64)
22:25:49 <int-e> so useful for indexing bit vectors
22:26:00 <wob_jonas> int-e: the 386 bit search instructions are ugly CISCy too
22:27:09 <wob_jonas> and sure, a lot of the x86 things made much more sense in the past
22:27:53 <int-e> darn, somehow I thought this was one of the 486 additions. not that it matters much these days
22:28:01 <wob_jonas> in a very few cases the CISCy design of x86 is so obsolate that new features already don't make sense when they were introduced, but usually they only don't make sense half a decade later
22:28:28 <int-e> `? obsolate
22:28:31 <HackEgo> obsolate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:28:37 <wob_jonas> int-e: what was 486 addition in particular? don't believe the details I say without checking
22:29:03 <wob_jonas> did I misspell or misuse that word?
22:29:24 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_instruction_listings#Added_with_80486
22:29:29 <int-e> wob_jonas: "obsolete"
22:29:39 <int-e> but the "late" in there made it look almost intentional
22:29:44 <wob_jonas> ah
22:29:49 <pikhq> IIRC the big 486 ISA additions were atomics.
22:30:00 <wob_jonas> I didn't say it because of "late"
22:30:10 <int-e> bswap is nice too
22:30:26 <wob_jonas> it just seems like a weak vowel do I don't remember the spelling
22:30:31 <wob_jonas> pikhq: yes, definitely
22:30:51 <pikhq> Yeah, but that's more a nicety. The atomics are big because they introduce functionality that fundamentally wasn't there before.
22:31:10 <pikhq> While you could do bswap yourself, just not as nicely.
22:32:25 <int-e> 486 also added SMM to the mainline processors... another GREAT design decision.
22:33:09 <wob_jonas> also, isn't 486 the first generation that has a variant with the x87 built-in as opposed to a separate chip?
22:33:20 <int-e> yes
22:34:03 <wob_jonas> I assume that comes with performance advantage
22:34:24 <int-e> and the last generation which offered a split version (486SX and 487 coprocessor... I've read that early 487 were actually full-blown 486 with some fuse blown)
22:34:58 <wob_jonas> I didn't know it had a split version
22:34:58 <wob_jonas> but ok
22:35:28 <wob_jonas> it makes sense that it was the last generation with a split version, because the x87 was always present on the pentium, right?
22:36:18 <wob_jonas> which was the first version that made the x87 synchronization WAIT instruction redundant?
22:36:20 <int-e> yes. and then they started adding to it... MMX.... etc.
22:36:32 <int-e> FWAIT. that too.
22:36:43 <wob_jonas> MMX is a bit later than the first pentiums
22:36:48 <wob_jonas> oh yes, FWAIT
22:37:20 <int-e> It's just that I have fond memories of a Pentium MMX PC :P
22:37:35 <wob_jonas> I see
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23:05:21 <HackEgo> 1075) <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah <Jafet> Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects
23:05:40 <HackEgo> 916) <elliott> ~eval 1+2 <cuttlefish> Error (127): <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it
23:05:40 <HackEgo> 93) <fungot> pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...]
23:05:40 <HackEgo> 218) <xplat> so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported?
23:05:41 <HackEgo> 105) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well
23:05:44 <int-e> . o O ( <HackEgo> WHO DARES TO WAKE ME FROM MY SLUMBER?! )
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23:13:39 <ais523> hmm, someone I've never seen before joins this channel and randomly posts a link to another, unexplained
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23:13:52 <ais523> and yet I don't think it's a spambot because the channel link is pretty close to ontopic, which wouldn't normally happen
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23:24:51 <ais523> hmm, I just got a spam mail that's recruiting for the Illuminati
23:25:00 <ais523> or claims to be, at least
23:25:09 <ais523> this is pretty creative as spam goes
23:25:28 <Sgeo> Reading about the historical illuminati, they seem kind of cool (unless I'm missing something)? And dead.
23:25:49 <ais523> maybe I should make a "best of spam" folder
23:27:43 <shachaf> I remember the first pyramid spam I got. It was great.
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23:39:43 <MDude> Well, I figured out how to make the code work before dinner.
23:39:57 <MDude> Part of it was of course fixing a typo in a loop variable.
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01:35:35 <oerjan> <shachaf> \oren\: Why write to the root directory rather than to tmp/? <-- if you ever get people to do that, it'll be so fun when they hit the tmp/ mv bug.
01:36:02 <shachaf> "bug"?
01:36:21 <shachaf> Anyway that file didn't look like it was even intended to be used.
01:36:26 <shachaf> `ls
01:36:41 <oerjan> true, but it's a dangerous habit if you don't know what you're doing.
01:36:57 <HackEgo> ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
01:37:02 <shachaf> not knowing what you're doing is a dangerous habit hth
01:37:09 <shachaf> `hoag test
01:37:09 <oerjan> `file test
01:37:27 <oerjan> i suspect that file was never written anyway.
01:37:35 <HackEgo> test: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x6ac7051385eeb76321be46a3b04a8a608b00d31c, not stripped
01:37:41 <HackEgo> No output.
01:37:52 <oerjan> shachaf: the difference is, that with almost any other mistake in HackEgo, you can `revert.
01:38:15 <shachaf> Sure, but you can always reconstruct what happened, since you made the tmp/ file in public.
01:38:16 <oerjan> and not lose information.
01:38:23 <shachaf> Since HackEgo modifications are always in public.
01:38:24 <shachaf> Right?
01:38:47 <oerjan> i wouldn't expect that apply to tmp/ if people used it for scratch.
01:39:05 <oerjan> in fact it would be the perfect place to try out things.
01:39:17 <quintopia> what does mv in tmp do?
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01:40:05 <shachaf> `hoag test
01:40:09 <HackEgo> ​<\oren\> ` echo -e \'#include <stdio.h>\\nint main(){printf("hello\\\\n");int i=30;printf("this won\'\\\'\'t work\\\\n");}\' | gcc -std=c90 -xc -otest - \ <shachaf> rm test \ <oerjan> touch test \ <hppavilion[1]> rm test \ <Moon_> mkx test//moonwashere \ <shachaf> rm test \ <shachaf> ` echo b > test \ <shachaf> ` echo a > test \ <oerjan> rm-p te
01:40:15 <oerjan> quintopia: because of HackEgo's lock-and-rerun mechanism, it wipes out the tmp file with no trace.
01:40:21 <shachaf> `rm test
01:40:25 <HackEgo> No output.
01:40:37 <shachaf> oerjan: Well, we can fix that by having mv check if its first argument is in tmp/.
01:40:40 <oerjan> oh it did add one.
01:40:43 <oerjan> shachaf: true.
01:40:53 <shachaf> I guess we can't fix `mv, though.
01:40:55 <shachaf> Or can we?
01:40:58 <shachaf> `` echo $PATH
01:41:00 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
01:41:05 <shachaf> I guess we can.
01:41:10 <oerjan> shachaf: except some people here like to use mv -v
01:41:30 <shachaf> a?
01:41:37 <shachaf> Hmm.
01:41:39 <shachaf> mv -v?
01:41:52 <oerjan> it tells whether it actually did something.
01:42:08 <oerjan> with HackEgo timing out all the time, a good practice.
01:42:29 <shachaf> Well, a fancy mv can still support that.
01:45:39 <oerjan> hm...
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02:16:36 <oerjan> :t (>>-)
02:16:37 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘>>-’
02:16:37 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant one of these:
02:16:37 <lambdabot> ‘>>’ (imported from Control.Monad.Writer),
02:17:58 <oerjan> huh lambdabot no longer imports logict?
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02:18:22 <oerjan> :t interleave
02:18:23 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘interleave’
02:18:29 <oerjan> scow.
02:19:11 <oerjan> :t Control.Monad.Logic.interleave
02:19:12 <lambdabot> Control.Monad.Logic.Class.MonadLogic m => m a -> m a -> m a
02:24:06 <oerjan> > [1..]Control.Monad.Logic.>>-repeat
02:24:08 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘Control.Monad.Logic.>>-’
02:24:08 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant one of these:
02:24:08 <lambdabot> ‘Control.Monad.Cont.>>’ (imported from Control.Monad.Cont),
02:24:39 <oerjan> @ask int-e why isn't Control.Monad.Logic in lambdabot tdnh
02:24:39 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:34:56 * oerjan had got the misguided impression cabal-install now supported incremental cabal update.
02:35:08 <oerjan> but it seemed to take as long as last time.
02:35:29 <oerjan> (was just testing my line above)
02:36:13 <oerjan> @tell int-e [1..]Control.Monad.Logic.>>-repeat
02:36:13 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:36:48 <oerjan> of course that relies on a very specific implementation of >>- for lists.
02:37:41 <oerjan> > [1..]CML.>>-repeat
02:37:43 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘CML.>>-’
02:37:48 <oerjan> > [1..]L.>>-repeat
02:37:49 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘L.>>-’
02:38:07 <oerjan> @where L.hs
02:38:07 <lambdabot> What lambdabot has in scope is at <https://github.com/int-e/lambdabot/blob/config/lambdabot/State/Pristine.hs>
02:38:16 <oerjan> yay that worked
02:38:41 <oerjan> except for the 404ing
02:44:27 <oerjan> @tell int-e @where L.hs lies tdnh
02:44:27 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:48:10 <oerjan> :t (^.)
02:48:11 <lambdabot> s -> Getting a s a -> a
02:48:40 <oerjan> well the one i found at lambdabot/lambdabot is not right, anyway. (no lens)
02:48:47 <oerjan> > (^.)
02:48:49 <lambdabot> No instance for (Typeable s0)
02:48:49 <lambdabot> arising from a use of ‘show_M668101704439807834720385’
02:48:49 <lambdabot> In the expression:
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03:12:16 <oerjan> `? obsolate
03:12:19 <HackEgo> obsolate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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04:08:17 <shachaf> Wait, rdococ is HaliteBird?
04:11:54 <oerjan> i wouldn't know.
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04:41:21 <hppavilion[1]> "One pound is one kilogram." -- Randall Munroe
04:41:48 <oerjan> well that's about half right.
04:42:19 <shachaf> or is it about 2 right?
04:42:21 <pikhq> Well, in the context of order of magnitude estimation, it's not wrong.
04:43:13 <shachaf> pikhq: any pooch news?
04:43:31 <shachaf> Hmm, wrong channel.
04:44:03 <oerjan> pikhq: fermily agreed
04:44:17 <quintopia> oerjan: is obsolate a word to describe very old people just after they die?
04:45:02 <oerjan> quintopia: well that wasn't the use in the logs.
04:45:35 <oerjan> . o O ( ^style doggy )
04:46:07 <shachaf> oerjan: this isn't even the first time you made that joke hth
04:46:14 <oerjan> it isn't?
04:46:22 <shachaf> I don't believe so.
04:46:32 <oerjan> has this channel been going to the dogs for this long
04:47:24 <shachaf> I was going to make some "posthumous" pun in response to quintopia.
04:47:29 <shachaf> But I couldn't think of a good one.
04:50:33 <oerjan> you shouldn't joke about dead people. that's posthumorous.
04:50:58 <shachaf> Yes, that one was a candidate.
04:51:06 <shachaf> But neither of us could make it work.
04:51:11 <oerjan> ic
04:51:22 <shachaf> Sorry, I oughtn't be rude for no reason.
04:51:43 <quintopia> shachaf: maybe you can be helpful instead?
04:51:44 <oerjan> i realised immediately it should have been s/that's/they're/ hth
04:51:50 <quintopia> what's a verb or verb phrase for when you are fired because your employer no longer needs *anyone* to do the job you were doing?
04:53:02 <oerjan> unless they've died after eating middle east cuisine, then they're posthummus.
04:53:13 <\oren\> quintopia: downsized
04:53:35 <\oren\> quintopia: position eliminated
04:54:43 <quintopia> oerjan: or if they are left in the woods to rot, decompose entirely, and be washed away in rainstorm, in which case they are posthumus
04:55:01 <shachaf> quintopia: I can't hope to be as helpful as oerjan.
04:55:12 <shachaf> Not can I help to be as hopeful as oerjan.
04:55:19 <shachaf> oerjan mostly hopes that helps.
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05:14:10 <quintopia> `? hth
05:14:54 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
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06:08:40 <oerjan> *POOF*
06:10:11 <izabera> what happened?!
06:10:28 <oerjan> lambdabot quit tdnh
06:11:12 <alercah> mniip found a vuln
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06:11:21 <izabera> another one?!
06:11:31 <alercah> some unicode crap
06:11:39 <izabera> what crap?!
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06:12:04 <alercah> < mniip> @let data QUIT = QUIT
06:12:10 <alercah> < mniip> @let data Њ a b = Њ a b
06:12:16 <alercah> < mniip> :t Њ QUIT (Њ () ())
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06:12:24 <izabera> oh
06:12:29 <izabera> wow
06:12:37 <oerjan> what
06:12:39 <alercah> `unidecode Њ
06:12:54 <HackEgo> ​[U+040A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER NJE]
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06:13:08 <oerjan> ^ord Њ
06:13:08 <fungot> 208 138
06:13:16 <izabera> possibly a different encoding?
06:13:24 <izabera> one that contains a \n somewhere?
06:13:43 <oerjan> well ghc haskell uses utf-8
06:13:47 <oerjan> so that seems unlikely
06:14:09 <oerjan> hm
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06:15:00 <oerjan> @let data A = A; data B = B
06:15:08 <oerjan> :t B A (B () ())
06:15:19 <oerjan> lambdabot:
06:15:36 <oerjan> hmph
06:16:12 <oerjan> wait what
06:16:16 <izabera> anyway i'm mostly amazed by the fact that people actually understand haskell
06:16:20 <oerjan> > "hi"
06:16:27 <oerjan> it seems locked up :(
06:18:01 <oerjan> alercah: did it really quit immediately after that?
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06:18:08 <alercah> oerjan: yes
06:18:21 <oerjan> `unidecode QUIT
06:18:28 <alercah> mniip had it deafen itself to protect against someone abusing it to e.g. steal the account
06:18:41 <oerjan> oh
06:18:45 <HackEgo> ​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0051 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0054 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE]
06:19:11 <oerjan> alercah: hmph. you're supposed to make it quit twice.
06:19:16 <oerjan> then it won't rejoin.
06:20:08 <oerjan> i guess +g works.
06:21:03 <oerjan> `ord Њ
06:21:10 <oerjan> oh wait i see
06:21:10 <HackEgo> 1034
06:21:17 <oerjan> it's 1024 + 10
06:21:45 <oerjan> and it gets printed cast to 8 bit
06:22:06 <oerjan> alercah: has someone told int-e (who seems asleep) what happened?
06:22:30 <alercah> dunno
06:22:38 <oerjan> hm @tell won't work :P
06:23:10 <oerjan> i'll try memoserv
06:25:00 <oerjan> ...he's disabled it.
06:25:19 <oerjan> fine, github next ->
06:26:38 <oerjan> hm i see no way to contact him there
06:27:54 <oerjan> do i have his email somewhere...
06:29:27 <oerjan> not that i can see
06:30:29 <oerjan> i'm not sure i want to say this in a more public place
06:31:45 <alercah> oerjan: was pinged in #haskell
06:32:00 <oerjan> alercah: well...
06:32:22 <oerjan> oh well i suppose he won't get it any earlier otherwise
06:34:21 <oerjan> i guess this is what happens when every module in lambdabot is supposed to handle its own output issues.
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06:58:56 <shachaf> deafen?
06:59:19 <shachaf> Ah, server-side ignore.
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07:31:57 <oerjan> someone just woke up
07:32:07 <pikhq> Orly?
07:32:36 <oerjan> pikhq: int-e has a security vulnerability in lambdabot to handle today.
07:33:39 <pikhq> Ah.
07:33:47 <pikhq> Curious what the vuln was.
07:33:55 <pikhq> Something to do with UTF-8?
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07:34:46 <oerjan> pikhq: :t prints its output converted from codepoints to 8-bit and no \n check seems to be applied after that
07:34:58 <pikhq> *Oh*.
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07:35:19 <oerjan> so someone discovered the Њ
07:35:22 <oerjan> character
07:35:24 <pikhq> So it's serializing as UTF-8 incorrectly?
07:36:01 <oerjan> pikhq: no, it's serializing codepoints as 8bit clamped
07:36:18 <pikhq> Well that is "incorrectly". :P
07:36:23 <oerjan> i suppose :P
07:36:55 <oerjan> more disturbing is that this important check isn't applied uniformly to all lambdabot modules.
07:37:56 <oerjan> > 1
07:37:58 <lambdabot> 1
07:38:14 <oerjan> :t Proxy :: Proxy "hi"
07:38:15 <lambdabot> Proxy "hi"
07:38:47 <oerjan> :t Proxy :: Proxy "ЊPING"
07:38:48 <lambdabot> Proxy "\1034PING"
07:39:00 <oerjan> looks better
07:39:03 <oerjan> or wait
07:39:17 <oerjan> that gets passed through show
07:39:20 <oerjan> hm...
07:40:05 <oerjan> i guess it really does need at least one @let first
07:40:06 <Cale> @let data Њ = Њ
07:40:07 <lambdabot> .L.hs:169:1:
07:40:07 <lambdabot> Multiple declarations of ‘Њ’
07:40:07 <lambdabot> Declared at: .L.hs:155:1
07:40:11 <Cale> hah
07:40:36 <oerjan> @let data ЊPING = ЊPING
07:40:37 <lambdabot> Defined.
07:40:43 <oerjan> :t ЊPING
07:40:44 <lambdabot> PING
07:40:49 <shachaf> lambdabot is a mess.
07:41:01 <oerjan> someone fixed it speedily >:)
07:41:24 <shachaf> Is int-e online?
07:41:30 <Cale> yes, he is
07:41:40 <oerjan> int-e: does your fix work for all lambdabot modules, else someone might find another loophole...
07:42:17 <Cale> @pl ЊPING
07:42:18 <lambdabot> (line 1, column 2):
07:42:18 <lambdabot> unexpected '\138'
07:42:18 <lambdabot> expecting letter or digit, variable, "(", operator or end of input
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07:42:36 <Cale> @pl xЊPING
07:42:40 <int-e> oerjan: it's on the IRC connection level
07:42:49 <oerjan> int-e: good
07:43:26 <int-e> and while I am at it that's also the perfect place to get rid of the CTCP and color codes :P
07:43:37 <oerjan> AWWW
07:44:31 <oerjan> int-e: hey careful not to break @time
07:44:52 <int-e> well, it's just filtering some bytes.
07:45:05 <int-e> so you'll still get *some* output.
07:45:15 <oerjan> i mean that @time uses CTCP to do its job
07:45:41 <int-e> oh, right, hmm.
07:46:08 <int-e> yep, I just broke that :P
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07:48:55 <oerjan> also, ACTIONs, i'm not sure if any commands officially support those though
07:49:27 <shachaf> Well, @time is kind of silly.
07:49:44 <oerjan> Y U HATE TIME
07:49:52 <shachaf> You can always use ctcp directly.
07:51:25 <oerjan> that's not very demonstrative tdnh
07:51:25 <int-e> okay, fine, CTCP can stay for now while I mull over it
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07:53:06 <int-e> yeah, @time is a bit silly.
07:53:47 <int-e> I wouldn't go as far as hating it though
07:54:00 <int-e> too much effort; I prefer indifference
07:54:33 <shachaf> No one here hates @time.
07:54:44 <shachaf> Except for Cale, maybe.
07:54:47 <int-e> @where L.hs
07:54:57 <Cale> ?
07:55:34 <int-e> (oops, it's not here yet)
07:55:43 <oerjan> that would explain it.
07:56:05 <int-e> how many of these entries does lambdabot have anyway...
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07:57:16 <int-e> @where+ L.hs what lambdabot has in scope is at http://silicon.int-e.eu/lambdabot/State/Pristine.hs
07:57:21 <lambdabot> I will never forget.
07:57:22 <shachaf> Cale: Do you hate time?
07:57:44 <int-e> without time, when would you do all the hating...
07:58:15 <Cale> int-e: It would be compressed into an instantaneous fit of intense rage
07:58:17 <oerjan> i'm pretty sure Control.Monad.Logic _used_ to be in there, anyway.
07:58:52 <Cale> shachaf: I don't know what you're really referring to
07:58:59 <Cale> The lambdabot plugin?
07:59:00 <int-e> it would have been when Cale run it... mokus or I probably cleaned it up a little
07:59:17 <shachaf> What do you think of the speed of light, anyway?
07:59:31 <oerjan> your cleanup was illogical tdnh
07:59:44 <int-e> (I suppose... Cale please correct me if I'm wrong)
08:00:23 <Cale> I might have imported Control.Monad.Logic at some point
08:01:06 <int-e> @where Pristine.hs
08:01:06 <lambdabot> I know nothing about pristine.hs.
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08:02:01 <shachaf> People don't like single-layer perceptron networks, but they seem to be inexorable.
08:02:18 <oerjan> int-e: i noticed the github repository has three Pristine.hs* files for some reason.
08:02:44 <oerjan> shachaf: is that a pun because it smells like one
08:03:01 <shachaf> MAYBE
08:03:15 <int-e> oerjan: "for some reason" - I think the reason should be easy to guess given their names
08:03:26 <oerjan> hm?
08:03:42 <shachaf> 706 and 708 are GHC versions?
08:03:45 <int-e> yes.
08:03:48 <oerjan> oh duh
08:04:14 <shachaf> And there I was thinking it was Jul 6 and Jul 8.
08:04:24 <shachaf> And today we're right in between, which is why were having lambdabot issues.
08:04:32 <oerjan> shachaf: thausible.
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08:05:41 <int-e> anyway... later
08:10:10 <oerjan> int-e: the last TODO seems obsolete with (:~:) around.
08:13:12 <\oren\> what if we start reading todo as a spanish word
08:13:28 <shachaf> We already do.
08:13:44 <shachaf> Any todo list ultimately progresses toward its Spanish meaning.
08:14:44 <oerjan> todo loco
08:22:22 <int-e> oerjan: s/last //; s/ with.*//
08:22:43 <int-e> the todo list is a historical artifact
08:24:28 <int-e> or actually... which TODO?
08:24:36 <int-e> @todo 43
08:24:36 <lambdabot> @todo has no args, try @todo-add or @list todo
08:24:38 <int-e> @todo 44
08:24:38 <lambdabot> @todo has no args, try @todo-add or @list todo
08:24:47 <int-e> oh.
08:25:24 <oerjan> int-e: um i meant the todo in your Pristine.hs
08:25:54 <int-e> ah.
08:26:16 <int-e> I think mokus added that one
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10:50:24 <mroman> There's a game with 10 rounds and 2 players. Each player in every round must say a number 1..10 but they can never say the same number twice.
10:50:48 <mroman> If your number is higher you get two points, if it's lower no points and if both numbers are the same each gets one point.
10:52:44 <mroman> What strategy would you use?
10:53:21 <b_jonas> mroman: and in each round, the two players choose the numbers without learning about the other, but having learnt the numbers from the previous rounds?
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10:54:39 <b_jonas> mroman: this game reminds me sort of to the game Niagara, which is a german style board game for between 3 and 5 players ideally, but which interestingly has a quite small space state, so that it could conveniently (even for humans) be played through irc
10:54:40 <mroman> Yes, you know the numbers from the previous rounds.
10:54:57 <mroman> so you exactly know which numbers your opponent still has available
10:55:44 <mroman> actually this should be bruteforcable quite nicely
10:55:55 <mroman> 10! possible games would be my estimate
10:56:17 <mroman> or maybe not
10:56:23 <b_jonas> mroman: aren't there more like 100*10! games? still, probably brute-forcable
10:56:45 <mroman> 3628800 does sound like too few games
10:56:56 <b_jonas> Just like this game, Niagara has some hidden state, so it needs a trusted third party (e.g. a bot) to validate things over irc, or a simple cryptographic protocol.
10:57:15 <b_jonas> mroman: it's not 10! games, but 10! states
10:57:24 <b_jonas> there are much more games, about 10!**2 of them
10:57:36 <b_jonas> but only about 100*10! states
10:57:48 <b_jonas> (even less if you cut a bit)
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10:58:19 <b_jonas> so yes, it's brute-forcable
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10:59:23 <mroman> yeh but brute-force doesn't really tell you immediately the strategy behind it
10:59:37 <mroman> it might tell you that some orders have a higher chance of winning
11:00:06 <mroman> this is actually comparing every permutation of [1..10] with every other permutation of [1..10]
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11:00:11 <b_jonas> the brute force would tell you whether you can win from any particular state, and how to win from it
11:00:30 <b_jonas> so if the other player makes a theoretical mistake, you can win if you've done the brute force computation
11:00:30 <mroman> which is 10! squared
11:00:45 <b_jonas> the game is symmetric, so the starting state is a draw
11:08:30 <mroman> http://codepad.org/2StFKlse
11:08:33 <mroman> :)
11:08:50 <mroman> there's no permutation that wins more :)
11:09:12 <b_jonas> no wait, I'm stupid
11:09:20 <b_jonas> there's actually less states
11:09:41 <mroman> so overall the chance of winning when they play perfectly is 0%
11:09:44 <mroman> because it'll draw each time
11:10:04 <b_jonas> there's only 184756 states
11:10:39 <b_jonas> mroman: no no, you said you don't choose the permutation in advance, but choose each number after you know what (you and) the other player chose on each of the previous rounds
11:11:10 <b_jonas> that makes the game different
11:11:21 <mroman> why?
11:11:26 <mroman> This crunches through every possible game
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11:12:38 <b_jonas> mroman: think about it. or should I brute force it and demonstrate or something?
11:13:02 <mroman> well it at least means that no order has a higher chance of winning per se
11:13:24 <b_jonas> mroman: yes, but you don't decide the order in advance, and nor does the opponent, so that's irrelevant
11:16:29 <mroman> well if you start with the highest and the other player with the lowest you'll loose :)
11:18:35 <mroman> http://codepad.org/CNwt8JTN
11:20:23 <b_jonas> mroman: I'm writing a brute forcer and a particular player now, please wait
11:20:26 <b_jonas> it's not that complicated
11:20:27 <mroman> (just make sure you test with an even amount of numbers so there's no middle number)
11:20:43 <mroman> it might end up depending on who has the higher number in the first round
11:20:45 <b_jonas> what? you said there are 10 numbers exactly
11:20:49 <mroman> yes
11:21:17 <mroman> (I figured to detect tendencies 1,2,3,4 should work too)
11:21:30 <mroman> (less permutations)
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11:28:44 <b_jonas> mroman: mind you, an odd number might give an interesting game, because then there are no ties.
11:29:25 <b_jonas> but I'll stick with 10 for now
11:29:33 <b_jonas> still writing a program
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11:42:22 <myname> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/07/05/bot-bot/
11:49:39 <b_jonas> no, I'm stupid, there'd be ties even for an odd number
11:51:03 <b_jonas> mroman: you win the round if you have more points than 10, and lose if you have less points than 10, right?
11:51:17 <b_jonas> the total points is 20
11:54:55 <mroman> no you win the round when you have more points than the opponent
11:56:16 <mroman> which is probably equivalent to saying you win when you have more than 10 points :)
11:57:06 <mroman> if every round draws it's 10, 10. Each round can hand out 2 points so total 20
11:57:07 <mroman> yes.
11:57:11 <mroman> they're equivalent.
12:02:39 <b_jonas> still writing my program, please wait
12:02:53 <b_jonas> I have the brute force done, but chose the wrong strategy
12:02:59 <b_jonas> I'll have to fix it
12:04:01 <b_jonas> it already wins against random strategy more often than not, but it can be beaten with a particular strategy. I'll fix it now.
12:04:14 <b_jonas> then I'll have to add a network or irc interface or something
12:04:26 <b_jonas> so you can play against
12:04:39 <b_jonas> oh damn, it doesn't even seem to work against a random strategy
12:04:42 <b_jonas> something's wrong with it
12:04:45 <b_jonas> anyway, I'll fix it
12:04:51 <b_jonas> I know at least one bug
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12:19:32 <b_jonas> hmm, something is still buggy
12:20:09 <b_jonas> wait
12:20:49 <b_jonas> hmm
12:20:56 <b_jonas> what I'm trying can't work
12:20:59 <b_jonas> damn
12:21:37 <b_jonas> or maybe it can, I dunno
12:24:59 <b_jonas> I'll probably have to think about this later
12:25:03 <b_jonas> I can't write it now
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12:43:24 <mroman> :D
12:43:37 <mroman> Maybe there's not even a better strategy then doing random()
12:49:16 <mroman> http://codepad.org/SraTcU2M
12:49:17 <hppavilion[1]> Whoo!
12:49:28 <mroman> well at least 'player_mid_first' seems to suck a bit
12:49:30 <hppavilion[1]> Nothing more satisfying than Google identifying you as a potential bot
12:49:39 <mroman> don't search for porn too long
12:49:44 <mroman> it will immediately flag you as a bot .
12:54:02 <mroman> http://codepad.org/nZNEw6zE <- if anybody want's to write a player :D
12:54:04 <mroman> *wants
12:55:34 <mroman> looking at hppavilion[1]
12:55:36 <mroman> :D
12:55:52 <hppavilion[1]> mroman: What's crazy is that wasn't even it
12:55:55 <hppavilion[1]> mroman: Wait, well, actually
12:56:09 <hppavilion[1]> Interestingly, I kind of was
12:56:20 <hppavilion[1]> Specifically, I was looking for the smbc forum thread for http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2408#comic
12:56:30 <hppavilion[1]> Because the forum doesn't have a search feature
12:56:31 <hppavilion[1]> ...
12:56:39 <hppavilion[1]> mroman: Do you have spyware running on my computer?
12:58:13 <izabera> http://thecatapi.com/
13:01:05 <hppavilion[1]> Cat executions: Done with the Electric Box?
13:02:52 <hppavilion[1]> "In 2000, some conservative associations sued the government for granting the movie Baise-moi, which contained graphic, realistic scenes of sex and violence, a non-X classification."
13:03:00 <hppavilion[1]> France, I think your conservatives are broken
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16:08:53 <Xylon_> Hi, I'm trying to implement a very simple line in Pyth, but it seems like I keep doing something wrong. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction.
16:08:59 <Xylon_> This is it in normal Python: "reduce(lambda x,y: x^y, input)", where input is a list of integers. I figured out the following in Pyth: u^GHQ0, where u indicates that it's a reduce, G and H are the accumulator and sequence variable (G^H), Q is the input list and 0 is the initial value of the accumulator afaik, but it doesn't seem to give the wanted results.
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16:44:43 <int-e> Xylon_: hmm, ^ is exponentiation; x is xor?
16:47:18 <izabera> https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11
16:47:56 <izabera> someone should write an emulator
16:52:24 <int-e> hmmmm. PINBALL_GAME_BUTTONS_AND_LIGHTS.s
16:55:21 <izabera> gotta spend time somehow
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16:56:50 <int-e> izabera: anyway http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/download.html looks like an emulator already exists
16:56:52 <quintopia> all hail ##math's lord and protector Cale
16:57:03 <Xylon_> int-e: You're right! I expected that ^ would be the same as it would be in python. But with languages like this I shouldn't assume things. Thanks!
16:58:49 <quintopia> Xylon_: in general you are probably more likely to be able to get help like that in the Pyth chat, or in the 19th byte if no one is there
17:01:28 <Xylon_> quintopia: Thanks, hadn't even thought of chat channels on stackexchange
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17:13:04 <\oren\> I don't like stackexchange
17:17:01 <int-e> meh, that euclidthegame.com game has a bug where it resets the counter but does not remove all elements used so far...
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17:24:12 <\oren\> Actually, I don't like Quira or stack overflow either
17:25:00 <quintopia> not liking things is a fun activity for all to enjoy!
17:25:18 <\oren\> quintopia: ok, now it's your turn
17:28:03 <\oren\> `? \oren\
17:28:27 <HackEgo> ​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there?
17:28:35 <\oren\> `? oren
17:28:38 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a.
17:41:24 <quintopia> \oren\: i dont like misanthropy
17:49:33 <\oren\> misanthropy?
17:49:41 <\oren\> they're websites!
17:50:07 <\oren\> specifically, poorly designed and annoying to use ones
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18:56:29 <\oren\> A friend of mine suffers from depression, so she took a vacation... to finland.
18:57:06 <shachaf> Finland is great. Sounds like a good plan.
18:57:10 <shachaf> `? finland
18:57:31 <HackEgo> Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus.
18:59:20 <\oren\> i dunno, finland does not seem like a very cheerful place, but she's apparently loving it
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19:01:14 <\oren\> hellwob_jonas!
19:01:28 <wob_jonas> I'm watching the SGDQ videos
19:01:35 <wob_jonas> (the temporary youtube encodes for now)
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19:07:19 <\oren\> holy crap the war between clinton and the goppers is getting intense
19:09:00 <\oren\> i hope they start televising the senate
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19:24:02 <int-e> \oren\: it should be fine in summer, I suppose
19:24:46 <int-e> pretty too... and she could look for Slartibartfasts signature... (hey, this is #esoteric...)
19:26:45 <int-e> I need to figure out what to do with my life ;)
19:38:46 <FireFly> Isn't that in Norway though
19:38:50 <FireFly> them fjords
19:38:55 <shachaf> HireFly
19:39:29 <shachaf> int-e: what are you going to do with your life
19:39:33 <int-e> FireFly: you're right, I keep mixing up the nordic countries.
19:39:55 <int-e> shachaf: I could start by not mixing up IRC channels.
19:40:09 <shachaf> Which channels did you mix up?
19:40:28 <FireFly> Hi
19:40:28 <int-e> this one, and another.
19:40:34 <int-e> you sure are curious today
19:40:36 <FireFly> Soon Tetris TGM on SGDQ
19:41:03 <shachaf> int-e: Well, maybe I need to figoure out what to do with my life.
19:41:58 <shachaf> figure
19:42:32 <int-e> <diversion>What kind of animal would shed bikes?</diversion>
19:43:17 <int-e> (I also imagine that the process would be quite painful. but nature is often cruel.)
19:45:13 <shachaf> Maybe the answer has to do with the bicyclic monoid.
19:45:45 <shachaf> Oh, wait, the diversion is already over.
19:45:55 <shachaf> So back to my life.
19:47:17 <pikhq> FireFly: :)
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20:55:26 <Vorpal> Deewiant, hi!
20:57:13 <Vorpal> @tell Deewiant Working anything on mycology? I lifted some code from cfunge's DATE fingerprint and found a bug that apparently wasn't tested by mycology. Basically for dates pre-dating the Gregorian calendar I used Julian calendar, but only when converting from JDN to YMD, not the other way around. It probably isn't specified what calendar to use, but it should be the same for both directions I think
20:57:13 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
20:57:52 <Vorpal> @tell Deewiant I'm going to change it to use the proleptic Gregorian calendar. That is, backdated Gregorian to apply before that point in time.
20:57:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:02:03 <pikhq> Probably wise. The date of Gregorian changeover is actually region-specific.
21:03:17 <pikhq> (spanning from 1582 to 1923)
21:05:57 <Vorpal> pikhq, yes. I just think mycology should actually test you do the same thing in both directions :)
21:06:11 <pikhq> :)
21:06:42 <Vorpal> pikhq, I basically ported those functions to a different language (for a different project), and then I threw property based testing on it (like quickcheck) and it found that issue
21:07:12 <Vorpal> pikhq, watching summer games done quick?
21:07:22 <Vorpal> They are playing tetris right now. And it is super-impressive
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21:07:31 <Vorpal> (on twitch)
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21:08:20 <pikhq> Yup!
21:08:40 <Vorpal> pikhq, How can this NOT be the TAS segment
21:08:51 <shachaf> hi Vorpal
21:08:55 <Vorpal> hi
21:09:21 <shachaf> I was thinking about git clones of a subdirectory of a repository and things like that.
21:09:37 <shachaf> It might be that hg has advantages over git for that sort of thing.
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21:17:53 <Vorpal> shachaf, hm?
21:18:04 <Vorpal> can you clone only a sub-directory?
21:18:10 <shachaf> I don't think so.
21:18:11 <shachaf> Maybe?
21:18:12 <Vorpal> Don't know if you can in hg.
21:18:16 <shachaf> I heard they were working on it in hg.
21:18:21 <Vorpal> Never had the need for it
21:18:24 <shachaf> Maybe Facebook was working on it.
21:18:29 <Vorpal> shachaf, in CVS you can. Same for SVN
21:18:40 <shachaf> Yes, but that's much easier, of course.
21:20:10 <shachaf> `smlist 446
21:20:15 <shachaf> `smlist 447
21:20:26 <HackEgo> smlist 446: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
21:20:31 <HackEgo> smlist 447: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
21:22:28 <int-e> CVS has a file-oriented storage
21:22:41 <int-e> SVN doesn't fetch any history, just snapshots
21:23:26 <shachaf> Anyway, if Facebook uses hg for their whole repository, they're probably doing some interesting things to make that work.
21:23:36 <int-e> the trouble with git isn't checking out subdirectories (there's "sparse" checkouts which do, essentially, that) but that fetching a repo means fetching its commits, and that will pull in the whole history for all subdirectories
21:24:14 <shachaf> int-e: Well, I want to not clone out the contents of trees other than the one I'm looking at.
21:24:22 <int-e> (of course the object structure itself would support partial fetches)
21:24:27 <Vorpal> shachaf, we use sub-repositories at work
21:24:33 <Vorpal> shachaf, not one hg repo for everything
21:24:46 <int-e> (but I don't think that the software does... it's fetching a full transitive closure)
21:24:50 <shachaf> But using one big repository for everything is the best.
21:25:02 <Vorpal> then for any given project we have a shell repo that just pulls in the sub-repos (there is no code in the shell repo, well okay there is a CMakeLists.txt, but that is it)
21:25:35 <Vorpal> shachaf, well, that has issues when there are many different products that don't need the same code
21:26:33 <int-e> shachaf: I know. What I was trying to say is that bringing up SVN or CVS is not very meaningful.
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21:31:44 <\oren\> I would say git has the features for 90% of use cases, svn has the features for 80%, and a tgz file with a bunch of back versions is enough for 70%.
21:32:10 <Vorpal> \oren\, no... tgz is not enough when developing
21:32:22 <Vorpal> sure if you just want to download a software
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21:33:19 <\oren\> Vorpal: I mean a tgz file containing subdirectories like project_June12/ project_June14/, etc.
21:33:36 <Vorpal> \oren\, *puke*
21:34:14 <\oren\> thats how many of my amateur things are done
21:34:34 <Vorpal> yes, and it is terrible
21:34:57 <Vorpal> I pretty much create a repo (hg) before I even write a line of code.
21:35:05 <Vorpal> And even for small personal projects
21:35:55 <shachaf> int-e: I mean, I think git/hg might be able to do that reasonably well.
21:36:16 <shachaf> At least in theory.
21:36:30 <Vorpal> int-e, no I was just wondering what tools *can* do what he asked for
21:36:37 <int-e> VCSs keep metainformation and allow you to separate changes into logical commits... doing that with tar would be really hard. (Sure, one could maintain a changelog... but that's extra effort and will still lose information)
21:36:38 <Vorpal> And the answer "no distributed ones"?
21:37:11 <Vorpal> what about source safe?
21:37:12 <\oren\> I don't think I need any of that in most cases
21:37:13 <Vorpal> XD
21:37:44 <Vorpal> \oren\, distributed is easier to set up in most cases. You don't need a server until you want to publish it
21:37:46 <int-e> \oren\: so you never ask yourself why a particular line made it into your code?
21:37:59 <Vorpal> with svn (and presumably cvs?) you absolutely do need that from the get-go
21:38:31 <\oren\> with tar you don't need a server um. ever.
21:38:48 <\oren\> an http server will work fine
21:39:41 <int-e> git works quite well without a server
21:39:44 <fizzie> int-e: I believe shallow clones are a thing now, up to a point.
21:39:50 <fizzie> Re "the whole history".
21:40:14 <int-e> fizzie: yes, but they are only shallow in that the history is pruned... shachaf wants to prune subtrees
21:40:28 <int-e> but indeed I should've been more precise
21:41:45 <\oren\> 50% of my projects are written as a single file
21:42:51 <int-e> \oren\: I'm objecting to the notion that tar files come even close to a version control system.
21:43:42 <\oren\> well, it's more like you know a bunch of commands that let you use diff, tar, and the shell together as a vcs
21:43:47 <int-e> But it's okay to develop some things without version control.
21:44:46 <\oren\> like, the major thing that this helps me do is track down regressions. i have the version from yesterday, and the version from 4 days ago, etc.
21:45:27 <fizzie> shachaf: Here's an idea: why don't you go and use one giant Perforce repository for everything, and then a layer of scripts to allow "cloning" particular sets of subdirectories as local git repositories, maybe with a bit of FUSE to still make a unified read-only view of the entire in-the-cloud repository possible.
21:45:33 <\oren\> without any vcs at all I wouldn't have that ability
21:46:29 <shachaf> fizzie: That sounds pretty good. But I might just reimplement Perforce myself if it doesn't scale to the size of my repository.
21:46:45 <int-e> \oren\: I guess the point of disagreement is that your 70% number, in my view, is closer to perhaps 20%.
21:48:13 <int-e> \oren\: For example, I can have two copies of the project at home and at work, have changes in both, and merge them sanely. That will be a quite horrible mess with tar and diff and patch. Not impossible, sure, but a lot more effort than it should be.
21:48:14 <fizzie> shachaf: Sounds good. Maybe you could call the whole thing "Tuber" or something like that, and then let's say "git9" for the git bridge tool.
21:48:55 <\oren\> int-e: well, yeah there is a learning curve in using diff and patch well
21:49:19 <Vorpal> <\oren\> with tar you don't need a server um. ever. <-- sure. I was talking about svn and cvs
21:49:27 <Vorpal> \oren\, I don't consider tar a serious alternative
21:49:34 <shachaf> fizzie: Anyway, those git scripts wouldn't clone a "true" clone of the repository.
21:49:49 <\oren\> it's much better than not using any vcs at all
21:49:51 <shachaf> Those hashes would lead to nowhere.
21:50:01 <shachaf> Or, you know what I mean.
21:50:05 <shachaf> So it's kind of scow.
21:50:12 <shachaf> I'm not expressing myself very well right now.
21:50:26 <Vorpal> \oren\, also git or hg is easier than tar. Just: hg commit -m "Changed stuff"
21:50:29 <fizzie> You can certainly see the seams, yes.
21:50:29 <Vorpal> or hg add .
21:50:34 <shachaf> \oren\: Why wouldn't you just use git instead of tar+diff+patch?
21:50:39 <shachaf> So much easier.
21:50:41 <Vorpal> \oren\, the tar thing actually needs more commands!
21:50:43 <\oren\> shachaf: git is not easy
21:50:50 <shachaf> Just: git commit -m "Changed stuff"
21:50:53 <Vorpal> \oren\, agreed. hg is though.
21:51:03 <Vorpal> \oren\, and TortoiseHg is a GREAT gui for it
21:51:13 <Vorpal> which git lacks
21:51:13 <int-e> then use mercurial... mercurial is only hard for git users, I believe :P
21:51:31 <Vorpal> int-e, well said. I'm a hg user, and I find git confusing.
21:51:40 <int-e> (mercurial is so close to git that I want to use it like git, and then it falls short all the time.)
21:51:41 <shachaf> fizzie: Did you read _The Gone-Away World_?
21:52:02 <fizzie> No, I didn't.
21:52:07 <Vorpal> int-e, branches work differently. Otherwise it is mostly the same I believe. But git has a more confusing user interface.
21:52:17 <shachaf> That book is pretty good.
21:52:31 <shachaf> Anyway there's a machine in it called "Piper 90".
21:52:37 <\oren\> I found that git has too many concepts
21:52:39 <Vorpal> fizzie, hm perforce, is that central or distributed?
21:52:42 <Vorpal> fizzie, and is it FOSS?
21:52:57 <int-e> Vorpal: I'm not disagreeing. Actually the thing that I find most confusing in mercurial is the "tip" thing that jumps around randomly when there's more than one head.
21:53:04 <pikhq> Vorpal: Central, proprietary.
21:53:07 <int-e> ("randomly" meaning I can't reliably predict it)
21:53:11 <shachaf> The whole "multiple heads" thing in hg sounds bizarre to me.
21:53:44 <Vorpal> int-e, you generally shouldn't have more than one head in a given named branch I would say. Also you probably want "default" instead of tip then?
21:54:01 <Vorpal> int-e, oh and I mostly use TortoiseHg. It is actually a great GUI.
21:54:17 <int-e> ... shell user here
21:54:29 <shachaf> The only complicated thing about git is that the commands are bizarre and arbitrary.
21:54:39 <shachaf> And each one does several different things.
21:54:41 <Vorpal> int-e, fair enough. Just saying that sometimes when things get complicated, a visual look at the tree can be easier to understand
21:54:52 <int-e> X is useful so that I can have 9 xterms on the screen simultaneously.
21:55:04 <Vorpal> int-e, especially in projects with multiple persons and complicated merges
21:55:20 <\oren\> shachaf: and stashes. I would like there to be no such thing as a stash
21:55:21 <Vorpal> then a visual look can be superior for understanding what the f**ck is going on.
21:55:31 <int-e> actually I use hg view quite a lot.
21:55:32 <shachaf> \oren\: Then don't use "git stash"?
21:55:40 <shachaf> They don't exist if you don't want them to.
21:55:48 <\oren\> shachaf: but that;s the only way to discard changes
21:55:48 <Vorpal> $ hg view
21:55:48 <Vorpal> hg: unknown command 'view'
21:55:48 <Vorpal> 'view' is provided by the following extension:
21:55:48 <Vorpal> hgk browse the repository in a graphical way
21:55:49 <Vorpal> hm
21:55:51 <Vorpal> Okay
21:56:11 <Vorpal> int-e, how does it compare to thg workbench?
21:56:11 <shachaf> \oren\: ?
21:56:22 <shachaf> What does discarding changes have to do with git stash?
21:56:55 <\oren\> you discard the changes in your working directory by saying ``git stash''
21:56:59 <Vorpal> int-e, https://www.mercurial-scm.org/wiki/HgkExtension suggests it is deprecated and hgview or tortoisehg should be used instead
21:57:08 <shachaf> No I don't?
21:57:21 <int-e> Vorpal: hg view is not very useful really... it's a stripped down clone of gitk. It helps me that it looks familiar. I wouldn't recommend it.
21:57:31 <shachaf> Oh, well, I thought you were actually being sinceret or something.
21:57:32 <Vorpal> ah
21:57:38 <shachaf> I should've known better.
21:57:46 <\oren\> I am. that's the way I learned git
21:58:10 <shachaf> The name "stash" might be a clue that it's not discarding anything.
21:58:58 <\oren\> git add my files with changes I want to keep, git commit to do... something. then git push which does an actual commit. finally git stash to discard uncommited changes
21:59:51 <\oren\> i guess git commit is how you add the message to your commit
22:00:18 <shachaf> Maybe you should spend half an hour or an hour learning how git works.
22:00:19 <fizzie> That's such a bizarre use of terminology.
22:00:36 <Vorpal> \oren\, for your usage, hg would probably be simpler.
22:01:06 <Vorpal> \oren\, especially given the amazing cross platform GUI that TortoiseHg provides
22:01:44 <shachaf> imo trollminology
22:01:45 <fizzie> Can you alias on top of existing commands? You could alias 'git stash' into actually being about discarding changes.
22:02:20 <Vorpal> fizzie, what is the proper way of discarding changes in git?
22:02:31 <\oren\> shachaf: well how would you discard the changes in your working copy that you don't want to commit?
22:02:41 <shachaf> git reset --hard?
22:02:46 <Vorpal> \oren\, in hg it is "hg revert"
22:03:03 <\oren\> ah. well that sounds legit
22:03:11 <shachaf> Or `git checkout file` to restore a file to its state in HEAD.
22:03:17 <Vorpal> shachaf, is that per file?
22:03:20 <Vorpal> Or the ENTIRE tree?
22:03:29 <Vorpal> Ah
22:03:30 <shachaf> git reset --hard is the entire tree.
22:03:34 <Vorpal> Hm
22:03:42 <shachaf> You don't do it too often.
22:03:44 <shachaf> Well, I don't.
22:03:50 <Vorpal> shachaf, what does --hard do?
22:04:01 <int-e> reset the staging area as well
22:04:13 <fizzie> And the working tree.
22:04:29 <int-e> and that (the staging area) is really the bit that you have to understand before git stops being confusing.
22:04:30 <fizzie> I mean, compared to --soft, which just adjusts what the head points at.
22:05:23 <Vorpal> int-e, that entire "staging area" concept is confusing and annoying I find
22:05:24 <\oren\> int-e: isn't the staging area just the list of files I want to commit? not confusing at all?
22:05:25 <shachaf> Vorpal: What git-reset actually does is change your current branch to point to some commit. The commit is implicitly HEAD, i.e. where you are right now.
22:05:25 <int-e> It's invisible at first, but that's where you prepare the commit. "git diff" shows differences between working tree and staging area. "git diff --cached" shows differences between staging area and the last commit; *those* are the changes "git commit" actually commits.
22:05:27 <Vorpal> And quite pointless
22:05:41 <shachaf> Vorpal: git-reset --hard doesn't change only the current branch, but also the things that int-e and fizzie said.
22:05:42 <int-e> Vorpal: it's a love or hate thing; there's no middle ground :P
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22:06:17 <int-e> I find it quite powerful. And there's commit -a for the fairly common case that you want to commit all changes.
22:06:19 <shachaf> int-e: I have no strong feelings about the git staging area.
22:06:19 <Vorpal> int-e, agreed. And sure, there are things that hg could do better. But it is still less confusing than git
22:06:26 <shachaf> I could take it or leave it.
22:06:28 <int-e> shachaf: damn you! :P
22:06:45 <Vorpal> int-e, with hg you just list the files you want to commit if not all of them on the "commit" command line
22:06:49 <Vorpal> Makes sense to me
22:07:00 <\oren\> right, like svn
22:07:06 <Vorpal> also why does "git ci" not alias to "git commit"
22:07:09 <shachaf> You can do that with git-commit too.
22:07:11 <Vorpal> It does for hg, and it is shorter
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22:07:22 <shachaf> You can make that alias if you want.
22:07:37 <int-e> Vorpal: I have an alias for that in my configuration.
22:07:38 <shachaf> git config --global alias.ci commit
22:07:58 <Vorpal> Fair enough.
22:08:02 <Vorpal> Why is it not default though
22:08:06 <fizzie> "log1 = log --oneline --decorate=full --graph" is an alias I've started to use a lot.
22:08:26 <\oren\> shachaf: is there a way to add a staging area to svn
22:08:39 <shachaf> I don't know?
22:08:42 <Vorpal> The main issue I have with git is that there is no *good* GUI. For some reason I'm a GUI person when it comes to version control
22:08:49 <Vorpal> I'm a terminal person otherwise
22:08:55 <int-e> hmm, use git-svn?
22:09:24 <shachaf> fizzie: Ah, maybe I should use that instead of --decorate. I guess =full shows more information.
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22:09:52 <fizzie> It shows what sort of ref it is.
22:09:56 <\oren\> i mean it would be nice if I could add files to my 'svn ci' line one at a time
22:10:20 <shachaf> fizzie: --all is also a useful flag there, sometimes.
22:10:23 <\oren\> hmmm, I could use bash and a variable
22:10:37 <\oren\> instead of git add
22:10:39 <fizzie> shachaf: I think the =full part is slightly redundant in that at least some of the prefixes have their own colors.
22:11:52 <Vorpal> Is there a good version control system for unmergable binary files? At work we use svn for that, due to the locking support
22:11:57 <Vorpal> And hg for everything else
22:12:37 <shachaf> \oren\: It's true that in order to use git effectively you need to spend a bit of time up-front learning how it works.
22:13:05 <\oren\> staged=$staged' 'some_file.cpp
22:13:24 <\oren\> svn ci $staged
22:13:36 <shachaf> I don't mean learning what the commands do, which is kind of arbitrary but pretty easy to look up, but getting a mental model of what a git repository is.
22:15:02 <fizzie> I also was happy about "git worktree" getting in the real git.
22:15:18 <Vorpal> fizzie, what does that do?
22:15:47 <fizzie> Lets you have multiple working trees (with different branches checked out) linked to the same repository.
22:15:52 <shachaf> fizzie: whoa whoa whoa, fancy
22:16:12 <int-e> I found http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/ useful when I started using git... http://nyuccl.org/pages/gittutorial/ looks more recent but similar in spirit.
22:19:03 <fizzie> I don't think I've really needed git worktree at home, but some IDEs (not naming names here) are a little bit too enthusiastic about having everything indexed all the time whenever anything in the filesystem changes to make jumping around between branches pleasant.
22:19:42 <fizzie> And (as far as I can tell, anyway) git doesn't really have a generalized way of saying "do this thing in a branch without checking it out".
22:20:00 <shachaf> You can do some things.
22:20:12 <shachaf> But not in general, I guess.
22:20:28 <shachaf> Anyway, I never used anything with a name similar to git9.
22:20:50 <fizzie> Yeah, that's the kind of thing you can't do to a branch without checking it out.
22:22:09 <Vorpal> fizzie, hm hg had something like that for ages
22:22:49 <fizzie> I use something with a name similar to git9, but only ever do the synchronize-with-the-world operation in a single branch called "clean", which I've found is a relatively nice way to manage whatever unpleasantess there is with the boundary to the Other System.
22:22:49 <Vorpal> fizzie, basically it has a command (as a bundled extension) to hardlink the shared revision data files between multiple repos.
22:23:55 <Vorpal> In fact hardlinking is how a local same-filesystem clone works
22:23:58 <shachaf> Hard link? What happens if you edit a file?
22:24:14 <shachaf> What you really want is a copy-on-write hard link, isn't it?
22:24:15 <Vorpal> shachaf, hg is made to handle that for the internal revision file data
22:24:16 <fizzie> You don't edit the repository data files manually, hopefully.
22:24:21 <Vorpal> the working tree is NOT hardlinked
22:24:28 <shachaf> Oh, the repository data files.
22:24:35 <fizzie> That's more or less how 'git worktree' works, except there's some automatic administrative bookkeeping as well. And there's long been custom scripts to do it, they just weren't included in the stock distribution until relatively recently.
22:24:42 <shachaf> The working tree ought to be COW hard-linked, though.
22:25:02 <fizzie> Yes, in a perfect world.
22:25:04 <Vorpal> shachaf, that is harder though. Probably possible with FUSE, btrfs or zfs?
22:25:16 <shachaf> I heard that btrfs supports that, at least.
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22:26:01 <fizzie> shachaf: Anyhoo, I use something with a name similar to git9, but only ever do the synchronize-with-the-world operation in a single branch called "clean", which I've found is a relatively nice way to manage some of the unpleasantess there is with the boundary to the Other System.
22:26:23 <fizzie> Then you can pretend 'clean' is just a tracking branch for a remote, more or less.
22:26:35 <shachaf> Yes, I saw that when you said it earlier.
22:26:37 <fizzie> Oh.
22:26:49 <fizzie> I thought I didn't say that because I started to say something else.
22:26:59 <fizzie> You'll notice I further edited it a little bit.
22:27:16 <fizzie> E.g. "whatever" -< "some of the".
22:27:37 <shachaf> Sometimes I do that. I start editing a long line in the irssi buffer, ^U it, send it, send something else, then paste the ^U-ed text and forget I sent it already.
22:28:26 <Vorpal> shachaf, what is ^U?
22:28:43 <shachaf> Ctrl-U
22:28:48 <Vorpal> I get THAT
22:28:50 <shachaf> Delete (cut) the current line.
22:28:53 <Vorpal> it it like ctrl-x in modern editors?
22:29:04 <shachaf> Ctrl-X for the current line.
22:29:09 <Vorpal> Okay
22:29:41 <shachaf> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/git-users/7b40Ie89Vqs
22:29:51 <shachaf> It's funny when people post things like that.
22:30:01 <fizzie> shachaf: I ended up there as well.
22:30:30 <shachaf> If you know the right strings to search for, you can find a lot of bug reports that are full of secret HTTP headers containing all sorts of secret data.
22:31:00 <shachaf> I guess it's not that secret.
22:31:02 <fizzie> Also, I'd just like to voice my disapproval of the world making C-w in Emacs kill-region, but in browsers close-tab.
22:31:22 <fizzie> I've closed a number of tabs while trying to edit text in a box.
22:31:24 <shachaf> Yes, that's terrible.
22:31:31 <shachaf> I've done the same thing.
22:31:33 <fizzie> I'm very happy about C-S-t.
22:31:46 <shachaf> But at work I use Mac OS, where you close a tab with Cmd-W.
22:31:49 <shachaf> So it's a bit better.
22:32:02 <Vorpal> fizzie, hah. I'm a sublime user these days
22:32:10 <shachaf> fizzie: Unfortunately I do all my browsing in Chrome's Incognito mode, so I can't C-S-t.
22:32:21 <fizzie> Oh, that's nasty.
22:32:26 <shachaf> I do some of it in Firefox' Private Browsing mode, I guess. Firefox does support it.
22:34:55 <myname> just use vim
22:34:58 <myname> next
22:35:07 <shachaf> I do use vim.
22:35:16 <shachaf> Not for IRC, though.
22:36:00 <fizzie> I have typed ":wq\n" into a number of text boxes as well.
22:36:04 <fizzie> But that's generally less dramatic.
22:36:29 <myname> you can actually do that with extensions
22:36:30 <int-e> ls ;-)
22:36:43 <\oren\> i'ts annoying how ^O saves on nano but open on everything else
22:37:54 <myname> it doesn't save on vim :p
22:38:37 <fizzie> shachaf: Speaking of secret stuff, there's a bunch of Chrome bug reports containing all kinds of internal nomenclature as well.
22:39:01 <fizzie> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=52734 for example.
22:39:50 <shachaf> fizzie: Yes, that's what I meant.
22:40:04 <shachaf> Well, I was talking about some chrome bug reports.
22:40:06 <shachaf> Not that one.
22:41:25 <shachaf> But any of them that include an http response.
22:41:40 <fizzie> Yes.
22:42:08 <shachaf> One time there was a picture of a data center in Finland that had pictures of machines with labels on them specifying their hostnames.
22:42:24 <shachaf> It was kind of funny. I think it's gone now, though.
22:42:36 <fizzie> At least the knowledge of there being a data center in Finland is no longer a secret.
22:42:51 <Vorpal> fizzie, what *is* git5?
22:43:17 <shachaf> Vorpal: fizzie described it by the name "git9" above.
22:43:27 <Vorpal> shachaf, okay and what actually is it?
22:43:29 <fizzie> Someone tried to tell me we still haven't publicly acknowledged the existence of the Hamina data center, which is patently untrue.
22:43:40 <fizzie> I mean, https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/hamina/
22:43:55 <shachaf> fizzie: You might have acknowledged its existence, but have you acknowledged the acknowledgement of its existence?
22:44:16 <Vorpal> fizzie, I read about it in the Swedish technology news paper "Ny Teknik" several years ago
22:44:43 <Vorpal> fizzie, so git9 is some kind of google-internal wrapper script for git?
22:44:56 <fizzie> It's really git5, I just wanted to be fancy.
22:45:22 <fizzie> And it's the bridge from local git to the well-published Perforce-based VCS we generally use.
22:45:32 <shachaf> I was surprised to learn about this one thing that says "the existence of [this thing] is confidential".
22:45:42 <shachaf> But in retrospect I shouldn't have been surprised.
22:45:48 <shachaf> But maybe that's why it was confidential.
22:45:51 <fizzie> So that people who're conversant with git can keep using it.
22:45:52 <Vorpal> fizzie, do you pump waste heat into the district heating system?
22:45:55 <shachaf> I've probably said too much.
22:45:59 <Vorpal> fizzie, I believe some data centers in Sweden do that
22:46:03 <fizzie> I wouldn't know.
22:46:11 <fizzie> If I knew I couldn't tell, unless it's something we advertise.
22:46:27 <shachaf> fizzie never talks about corporate secrets in public IRC channels.
22:46:40 <shachaf> Unless someone else has accidentally talked about them in public bug reports, I guess.
22:47:12 <fizzie> Even in the latter case, I might still apply some caution.
22:47:40 <\oren\> but do you store work emails on a private server in your home?
22:48:03 <shachaf> fizzie probably stores personal emails on a private server at work.
22:48:26 <fizzie> I've been thinking of storing personal data at work, just because of the tools.
22:48:55 <olsner> Vorpal: the magical thing about the "staging area" is that it's a lot more than a list of files to commit, it's really a snapshot of the entire tree that will be committed, so e.g. the staged files don't have to look the same as the files on disk... which probably sounds useless and confusing until you start using it all the time
22:49:05 <shachaf> fizzie: that's a rude way to refer to your colleagues hth
22:49:28 <shachaf> Yes, that's true.
22:49:39 <Vorpal> olsner, fair enough I guess. Most of the time it isn't really that useful a feature though. Or when it is I want multiple versions of it (similar to MQ patches in hg)
22:49:47 <shachaf> \oren\: If you modify a file, and then git add it, and then modify it again, and commit, only your first modification will be committed.
22:50:37 <shachaf> fizzie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4pnJdEZ2Iw is a song about that data center, I assume.
22:50:52 <Vorpal> olsner, I do use MQ, and MQ is a more advanced version of that, where you can have multiple snapshots as kind of editable non-pushable-until-you-convert commits. And you can reorder then and unapply them and reapply them and so on
22:51:04 <Vorpal> olsner, also you can version control your actual MQ patch queue itself
22:51:04 <olsner> shachaf: :D
22:51:05 <\oren\> shachaf: AAAAAAAAAA
22:51:17 <\oren\> NOOOOO that is awful
22:51:35 <shachaf> Because what you're really "adding" is the current state of the file, not just the file name.
22:51:37 <olsner> Vorpal: that sounds close to how I use branches
22:51:44 <Vorpal> \oren\, I can see the use of it. I don't think it should be the default behaviour though
22:52:01 <Vorpal> olsner, branches are pushable though? MQ patches are not.
22:57:17 <fizzie> shachaf: Man, that *is* a lot of internal headers in bugs.chromium.org. Maybe they should have some sort of a thing.
22:58:55 <Vorpal> fizzie, oh? Link to an example?
22:59:10 <fizzie> I don't think I should.
22:59:24 <Vorpal> fizzie, well it is public, I could probably find it anyway?
22:59:34 <fizzie> Probably, but maybe you won't care enough.
22:59:38 <Vorpal> you don't need to tell me what they mean
23:01:58 <Vorpal> yeah a lot of internal jargon so far at least
23:02:06 <Vorpal> fizzie, I assume you mean HTTP headers?
23:02:06 <fizzie> It's the principle of the thing. If the names and values are something we don't show to external users, I probably shouldn't be linking to them either, even if they leak all kinds of ways.
23:02:10 <Vorpal> Or bug headers?
23:02:23 <fizzie> HTTP, yes.
23:04:54 <Vorpal> Ah yes, quite a few ones with weird headers
23:09:36 <shachaf> Probably all of them would have a particular header with a value of the form /x/y/z/y/x/...
23:09:45 <shachaf> Probably I'm saying too much anyway.
23:11:37 <Vorpal> shachaf, you don't work at google do you?
23:11:48 <shachaf> No, but I used to.
23:11:51 <Vorpal> Ah
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00:34:30 <\oren\> ah nothing better than a plate of hot wings and some jamaican ginger beer
00:35:32 <oerjan> okay
00:35:48 * oerjan has never had jamaican ginger beer, so cannot say.
00:36:16 <oerjan> i'm not sure i've ever had ginger beer at all. must have been back in my childhood if so.
00:36:35 <\oren\> it's like ginger ale but much spicier
00:36:47 <oerjan> i don't think have had ginger <beverage>
00:36:59 <oerjan> *i have
00:37:21 <\oren\> it's like root beer but with ginger instead of sarsparilla
00:37:33 <oerjan> i don't think i have had root beer hth
00:37:39 * oerjan grins maniackally
00:37:49 <\oren\> i you what how what
00:38:01 <oerjan> it's more likely i've had ginger beer/ale than root beer, anyhow.
00:38:06 <pikhq> Root beer is pretty much only popular in the US.
00:38:20 <pikhq> Most people elsewhere say it tastes like medicine.
00:38:39 <oerjan> in norwegian, the general word for beer and ale are the same (øl), so i wouldn't know the difference.
00:38:40 <\oren\> thats the point, it tastes like medicine
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00:40:56 <oerjan> although the english word "ale" seems to have been borrowed by brewing hipsters.
00:41:35 <pikhq> "Ginger ale" is a soft drink flavored with ginger. Ginger beer is either a soft drink flavored very strongly with ginger, or a beer made by fermenting ginger.
00:42:32 <oerjan> (i only know about brewing hipsters from the Lunch comic strip)
00:43:00 <oerjan> and from various mentions of IPA
00:43:44 <\oren\> what does the international phonetic alphabet have to do with beer?
00:43:44 <shachaf> pikhq: What happens if I don't drink anything carbonated?
00:43:58 <oerjan> \oren\: shared acronyms.
00:43:58 <shachaf> They're all three of them incompatible with me?
00:44:09 <pikhq> shachaf: Yes.
00:44:15 <\oren\> shachaf: the ginger beer I'm having isn't carbonated
00:44:21 <shachaf> No bubbles?
00:44:24 <pikhq> The brewing hipsters you refer to, are most likely using the word "ale" properly.
00:44:41 <\oren\> no, no bubbles, just a hell of a lot of ginger,
00:45:06 <pikhq> "Ale" as traditionally used is "beer brewed with a warm fermentation method".
00:45:31 <oerjan> "Ingefærøl (også kjent under det engelske navnet Ginger beer) er en øl som ble oppfunnet på 1700-tallet i England."
00:46:06 <LKoen> I don't speak Norwegian but that is definitely the first line of a wikipedia article
00:46:14 <oerjan> LKoen: correct.
00:46:46 <oerjan> it wasn't really meant to be understood, just tasted.
00:47:19 <oerjan> also, to sort of indicate that ginger beer might be what norwegians have heard of.
00:48:34 <\oren\> I sometimes make ginger beer myself
00:49:17 <\oren\> you basically mix ginger powder with hot water and stir, then chill it
00:49:26 <\oren\> and add sugar
00:51:08 <\oren\> you can also use fresh ginger but that's a lot of work
00:51:26 <oerjan> pikhq: well sure. it's just not a native norwegian word, is all.
00:51:49 <oerjan> (although it's obviously cognate to øl, which means _both_ ale and beer.)
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00:53:39 <oerjan> i am guessing what \oren\ just said would be severe trolling on an actual brewing forum.
00:53:43 <\oren\> hippavilion[1]
00:53:59 <pikhq> oerjan: Yeah.
00:54:03 <\oren\> oerjan: oh, undoubtably
00:54:08 <pikhq> I wonder why English makes the distinction.
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00:55:06 <pikhq> Actually, could be a North vs. West Germanic thing.
00:55:25 <oerjan> maybe.
00:55:45 <\oren\> i have heard that they used to serve beer hot
00:56:23 <hppavilion[1]> ack
00:56:26 <pikhq> It'd make sense for why English would have both, then. It's kinda got a handful of weird North Germanic loans strewn throughout.
00:56:27 <LKoen> cervoise
00:57:15 <oerjan> pikhq: wiktionary doesn't think it's borrowed.
00:57:33 <oerjan> to increase confusion, german Öl means oil hth
00:57:33 <shachaf> `? go
00:57:54 <HackEgo> Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia.
00:58:01 <pikhq> oerjan: Yeah, Wiktionary thinks it's entirely native.
00:58:05 <shachaf> Maybe it's a Taneb Germanic thing.
00:58:20 <LKoen> shachaf: apparently nintendo just released a game called Pokémon Go
00:58:35 <LKoen> (or just announced, whatever)
00:58:45 <pikhq> And also that Norwegian also has a cognate for "beer", "bjor". (which appears to be not at all common?)
00:58:58 <shachaf> Bring me a good brain, or Mr. Pokeylope becomes Mr. Smokeylope!
00:59:21 <pikhq> LKoen: Released.
00:59:24 <pikhq> shachaf: :)
01:00:49 <shachaf> pikhq: Did you hear they're making Psychonauts 2?
01:01:06 <pikhq> I did.
01:01:12 <oerjan> pikhq: afaik i've never heard of the norwegian bjor.
01:01:19 <shachaf> Estimated delivery Q3 2018.
01:01:24 <shachaf> So it'll probably be out by 2020?
01:01:44 <pikhq> oerjan: So it clearly is either obscure or theoretical.
01:01:46 <oerjan> icelandic seems to have both bjór and öl.
01:02:00 <oerjan> pikhq: i'd guess very dialectical
01:02:04 <pikhq> Plausible.
01:03:16 <oerjan> it's not actually in wiktionary, which just redirects to bjór
01:03:52 <shachaf> pikhq: Also they're making another Psychonauts game, exclusively for PS4 VR.
01:04:21 <shachaf> psychonauts was too good
01:05:32 <quintopia> shachaf: i paid quite a bit into the crowdfund for it
01:05:54 <quintopia> i don't remember if it was enough to get my name into it, but i was eager to see it happen
01:08:14 <pikhq> Psychonauts was good, I dunno if they're really going to make another good game though.
01:08:45 <pikhq> I've not been a fan of Double Fine's recent output.
01:08:51 <shachaf> It's been fine.
01:08:59 <shachaf> Whih isn't up to their usual standard.
01:13:01 <oerjan> is it figuring out what to do with your life day in the channel today
01:13:11 * oerjan logreading
01:14:25 <oerjan> oh never mind, int-e went on to bikeshedding.
01:15:55 <shachaf> oerjan: Maybe you can think of a good pun involving "bicyclic monoid"
01:21:40 <oerjan> sorry. only horrible half-associations.
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02:32:47 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: [Rated ꙮ] The intradisciplinary hub of solidarity matrices, esoteric programming language design, multichannel bot abuse (always safe, sane and consensual), and font forging (dangerous and potentially illegal) | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf.
02:38:02 <oerjan> `unidecode ꙮ
02:38:08 <HackEgo> ​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O]
02:39:11 <shachaf> too much
02:39:20 <alercah> whoa
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02:39:28 <alercah> google is experimenting with new crypto algorithms for https
02:39:38 <alercah> designed to be impermeable to quantum computers
02:40:02 <alercah> they picked an algorithm called new hope
02:40:14 <alercah> but the paper describing it has 0 instances of the string "death star" so I lost interest
02:40:44 <oerjan> what about "peace moon"
02:41:14 <hppavilion[1]> :(chaf
02:41:44 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: That's no... wait...
02:41:48 <hppavilion[1]> That's no star?
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02:42:07 <hppavilion[1]> Also, shouldn't it be "life moon"? Because !death is life; peace is !war
02:42:12 <hppavilion[1]> (then again, war is peace...)
02:42:26 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: i conclude you don't get the reference hth
02:42:32 <hppavilion[1]> (war=x, x=-x, x=0, war=peace=0, QED)
02:42:39 <hppavilion[1]> I don't?
02:42:48 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, I see
02:45:23 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: it is in the nature the topic to expand and collapse. just like a star.
02:45:27 <oerjan> *of the topic
02:46:56 <oerjan> alercah: it's ok then can use the name death star when they find a quantum algorithm that breaks it anyway.
02:47:00 <oerjan> *they
02:47:14 <oerjan> what in the world is wrong with my brain these days.
02:50:25 <\oren\> `? ꙮ
02:50:28 <HackEgo> ​ꙮ is the official Unicode character of #esoteric.
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02:53:20 <\oren\> `? 〿
02:53:21 <HackEgo> ​〿? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:54:23 <alercah> oerjan: wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"?
03:00:40 <oerjan> ER
03:01:03 <oerjan> `8ball wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"?
03:01:08 <HackEgo> Reply hazy try again.
03:01:22 <oerjan> alercah: NOT SURE
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03:23:21 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: You're doing it wrong
03:23:32 <oerjan> doing what wrong.
03:23:39 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: You aren't unsure, the 8B just didn't work the first time
03:23:47 <oerjan> `8ball what am i doing wrong?
03:23:50 <HackEgo> I'm a random number generator that reads from a file. Make your own damn decisions.
03:24:04 <oerjan> ):
03:24:14 <hppavilion[1]> When you try to load a webpage and just get the HTML skeleton, you don't give up, you reload
03:24:24 <oerjan> FINE
03:24:28 <oerjan> `8ball wouldn't that have to be called "second death star"?
03:24:29 <HackEgo> Signs point to yes.
03:24:42 <oerjan> alercah: after some thought, i agree hth
03:33:43 <hppavilion[1]> What is the name for the type of website which http://ponycountdown.com/ is?
03:33:58 <hppavilion[1]> Not the utility side- in this case, counting down to ponies
03:34:14 <hppavilion[1]> That is, a site that is rife with secrets and easter eggs that are there to amuse a visitor
03:39:08 <hppavilion[1]> How do I explain to someone that no, I'm not texting them the password over Google Hangouts, that's not safe AND I can't delete it after
03:43:05 <oerjan> don't ask me. i don't think it's possible to explains things to someone who isn't ready for it.
03:43:12 <oerjan> *-s
03:43:17 <oerjan> DAMMIT BRAIN
03:46:20 <shachaf> not possible to explains thing
03:50:19 <\oren\> holy shit dallas
03:51:22 <JX7P> http://pastebin.com/TwfCFjxE the parable of the liberal anglosaxon capitalist professor and analytical philosopher who taught a class on bertrand russel
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03:52:03 <\oren\> in dallas two cops were shot while monitoring a protest
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04:22:59 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: are you watching the dallas thing?
04:23:11 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: What dallas thing?
04:23:21 <hppavilion[1]> `google dallas thing
04:23:30 <HackEgo> Failed to connect to socket 2. \ \ Looking up 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Making HTTP connection to 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Sending HTTP request. \ HTTP request sent; waiting for response. \ Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. \ Can't Access `http://google.com/search?q=%64%61%6c%6c%61%73%20%74%68%69%6e%67' \ Alert!: Unable to access document.
04:23:33 <hppavilion[1]> @google dallas thing
04:23:34 <lambdabot> https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g55711-Activities-Dallas_Texas.html
04:25:00 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: DPD officers getting shot down at a protest?
04:38:31 <\oren\> yeah, there were snipers on top of a building and they shot ten officers, three dead.
04:39:08 <pikhq> s/were/are/ possibly.
04:39:20 <pikhq> The situation remains uncertain.
04:39:24 <\oren\> right
04:39:47 <\oren\> I was watching the Clinton email fbi/senate hearing when it cut to Dallas
04:40:12 <hppavilion[1]> 1.855e+44 planck time flat
04:45:53 <alercah> oerjan: tdh
04:47:13 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: You're the master of webcomics, correct?
04:47:55 <oerjan> since when.
04:48:49 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: I seem to remember someone asking if you read every webcomic on the internet
04:48:59 <oerjan> that's a pretty big no.
04:49:10 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
04:49:18 <hppavilion[1]> Well to anyone who knows
04:49:39 <hppavilion[1]> I'm reading Dinosaur Comics and looking for a complete list of easter eggs therein. Anyone know where I could find this?
04:50:00 <oerjan> wild guess: there's a wiki somewhere?
04:50:37 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: I hope so, but I can't find it
04:50:40 * oerjan doesn't read Dinosaur Comics, although he _does_ read Dinosaur Whiteboard.
04:50:45 <hppavilion[1]> I'll look for that
04:51:04 <oerjan> (that's not a relevant suggestion btw)
04:51:58 <shachaf> Do you read Super Mega Comics?
04:52:09 <oerjan> no.
04:52:29 <Cale> Okay one-sided die, who is the number one loser?
04:52:46 <shachaf> What's a one-sided die?
04:52:48 <shachaf> A sphere?
04:53:32 <hppavilion[1]> I would think it's a deformed mobius strip
04:53:35 <ais523> either that, or a monostable polyhedron
04:53:44 <ais523> there are polyhedra that are only stable on one face
04:53:50 <ais523> and if you place them on any other, they'll roll onto the one stable face
04:54:01 <Cale> http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=382
04:54:27 <ais523> when used as a die, it'd always land in the same orientation around every axis but the axis of symmetry of the table
04:54:45 <oerjan> pretty sure that was linked the other day.
04:54:48 <ais523> err, the table's surface
04:54:48 <ais523> assuming the table is flat
04:55:37 <shachaf> Oh, right.
04:55:43 <hppavilion[1]> Can't find a wiki
04:55:55 * oerjan is reminded of the gömböc
04:56:12 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: sounds like an opportunity hth
04:56:23 <shachaf> you should start a startup
04:56:24 <Cale> http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=429
04:56:36 <hppavilion[1]> What's an enddown, anyway?
04:57:20 <oerjan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCAg5_vHFmI
04:57:33 <shachaf> @google super mega double damage
04:57:35 <lambdabot> http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=333
04:57:35 <lambdabot> Title: SUPER MEGA COMICS
04:58:16 <shachaf> Cale: did you kickstarter the super mega book kickstarter
04:58:29 <shachaf> it's going to be tg
04:58:49 <Cale> I didn't actually realise that it happened until it was over
05:04:14 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, Ryan North is the current author of Marvel's Squirrel Girl comic
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05:47:17 <hppavilion[1]> Let's say it's possible to build a time machine
05:47:38 <hppavilion[1]> But it can only send messages- not physical material (obviously, you can assemble something with the information in the message- but that's it)
05:48:30 <hppavilion[1]> We know how to build a receiver, but a transmitter is trickier (we lack the precision to make one work with current technology, but we may figure it out in the future)
05:48:43 <hppavilion[1]> So a scientist builds a receiver to confirm that it works
05:48:51 <hppavilion[1]> And he records the moment of activation
05:50:10 <hppavilion[1]> If, the moment he turns it on, he- dependent on the exact design- either (a) receives several thousand messages, primarily from smart middle schoolers doing a science project or (b) gets nothing because it's all jammed by abnormally high amounts of phlebon particles
05:50:13 <hppavilion[1]> We know it worked
05:50:20 <hppavilion[1]> If he doesn't get the message, we know it didn't work
05:51:57 <oerjan> what, girl genius is late
05:52:09 <oerjan> that hasn't happened in a while.
05:52:52 <oerjan> well, "late". i'm not sure what its official schedule is.
05:53:02 <oerjan> but it's usually up by now.
05:54:04 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: if his recording computer gets a buffer flow and suddenly contains an AI taking over the world, we also (briefly) know it worked.
05:54:12 <oerjan> *overflow
05:54:30 <hppavilion[1]> True
05:54:38 <oerjan> (just channeling some yudkowsky here)
05:54:39 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Of course, who wrote the AI?
05:54:57 <oerjan> itself hth
05:54:59 <hppavilion[1]> (obviously, nobody; the AI is part of a stable time loop and the one that arrives is likely itself)
05:55:24 <hppavilion[1]> MK/JV
05:55:33 <oerjan> wat
05:55:56 <hppavilion[1]> ?
05:56:05 <oerjan> MK/JV?
05:56:15 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, not sure
05:56:28 <hppavilion[1]> Where do you see that?
05:56:55 <oerjan> um above, in your message.
05:56:59 <hppavilion[1]> It's always nice when a WP citation leads to a 404
05:57:06 <hppavilion[1]> Better than a 451, at least
05:57:27 <oerjan> 451 THE DATA CENTRE IS ON FIRE
05:57:31 <hppavilion[1]> `? peer
05:57:47 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ALSO, ALL THE PAPER, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING TO IGNITE IT
05:57:55 <HackEgo> peer gynt is a famous norwegian troll. nowadays he amuses himself by resetting people's irc connections.
05:59:30 <hppavilion[1]> Who ran the world's shortest marathon?
06:03:02 <oerjan> i dunno but iirc the question isn't quite trivial as the length wasn't entirely standardized initially.
06:03:13 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Oh, right, crap
06:03:33 <hppavilion[1]> I suppose marathons may vary by over a femtometer in length
06:03:53 <oerjan> sounds like a pretty good assumption.
06:04:13 <hppavilion[1]> Does temperature undergo relativistic effects?
06:05:41 <oerjan> i don't know. are you reading this from some list.
06:06:41 <hppavilion[1]> Nope
06:07:09 <oerjan> i think that's a pretty subtle question, anyway. probably requiring thinking about entropy.
06:07:41 <hppavilion[1]> If thursday is the new friday, how are other days of the week affected?
06:08:40 <oerjan> obviously impossible to answer.
06:08:49 <shachaf> oerjan: Do we need a `ngglist?
06:09:00 <oerjan> what's ngg
06:09:14 <oerjan> oh
06:09:20 <oerjan> wait, why n
06:09:32 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: n = not
06:09:33 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: or no
06:09:47 <oerjan> i think that would be pretty redundant hth
06:09:51 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Presumably, ngglist notifies you when girl genius fails to come out on time
06:10:16 <shachaf> Right.
06:11:04 <hppavilion[1]> . o O ( They should make special "Students' Calculators" which are awesome- you enter a full equation and it gives you the result- but it only does the math for you if it's hard enough that you shouldn't just do it yourself )
06:12:10 <hppavilion[1]> I asked wolfram|alpha for "smallest integer greater than 1"
06:12:13 <hppavilion[1]> It told me it was 1
06:12:16 <hppavilion[1]> I wept for humanity
06:12:59 <oerjan> why weep, the AIs will never destroy us when they're this stupid hth
06:19:57 <int-e> oh come on, it's just a off-by-one error
06:20:39 <int-e> and it may be a trick to make you feel better
06:22:39 <oerjan> OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
06:31:14 <int-e> punny xkcd
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06:46:16 <\oren\> 451 page censored
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07:37:47 <oerjan> gg up now.
07:38:18 <shachaf> tg
07:39:12 <hppavilion[1]> How much glory to the hypnotoad?
07:44:50 <izabera> 7
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08:12:48 <izabera> i just had the chance to write this super clear line of code printf(currformat, *argv && **argv == '\'' ? *++*argv++ : strtoll(*argv++, NULL, 10));
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08:27:10 <\oren\> izabera: perfectly clear!
08:27:52 <\oren\> parsing either a ' followed by a char literal, or a decimal number, and at the same time, advancing to the next argument
08:28:23 <izabera> :3
08:29:43 <izabera> `` printf %d \'a 72
08:29:51 <izabera> it does this
08:30:02 <HackEgo> 9772
08:32:15 <izabera> https://github.com/izabera/inutility/blob/master/src/printf.c
08:32:25 <izabera> replace all your busyboxes with inutilities
08:37:06 <izabera> it compiles down to less than 40kb with -Os
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10:28:29 <izabera> did you know this?
10:28:31 <izabera> close(0) = 0
10:28:33 <izabera> open("/dev/stdin", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
10:29:37 <izabera> oh i'm dumb
10:29:51 <izabera> of course /dev/stdin is still there but it's a symlink to /proc/self/fd/0 which doesn't exist
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10:39:58 <b_jonas> izabera: you almost never want to close the standard handles. it can take you to bad situations when a library function very deep in your program either opens something and it gets their fd number, or a library function assumes stderr is valid and prints an error message there.
10:40:16 <izabera> okok
10:40:50 <izabera> thanks
10:40:52 <b_jonas> izabera: instead, open the new handle you want with open or socket or any other function, prepare it, then dup2 it to replace the fd of the standard handles, and then close the alias.
10:41:16 <b_jonas> that way you can reopen the standard handles to anything new.
10:41:47 <izabera> oooor... i could just add this one line check
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10:49:13 <b_jonas> oh, I forgot to do this:
10:49:29 <b_jonas> `bardsworthlist 2016-07-07
10:50:09 <HackEgo> bardsworthlist 2016-07-07: b_jonas
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11:06:09 <b_jonas> also, SGDQ is great
11:09:17 <FireFly> It is.. but I'll miss part of the kirby/mario block tonight :<
11:09:28 <FireFly> Or not tonight.. later today
11:09:31 <b_jonas> you can watch later
11:09:42 * FireFly nods
11:09:57 <b_jonas> I don't watch anything live, I just watch everything later, on youtube or later if the temp encodes are botched
11:10:12 <b_jonas> like lots of the temp encodes in the early mario block were broken, so I'll have to try to watch those later
11:14:37 <FireFly> Ah
11:19:45 <b_jonas> (sadly sometimes the final videos on archive are broken too, when information was lost during recording, but they're at least better)
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12:47:01 <izabera> oh em gee https://my.fsf.org/donate/ "ThankGNU!"
12:47:21 <izabera> wat https://www.fsf.org/associate/car/
12:51:08 <FireFly> lol
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14:00:29 <mroman> http://codepad.org/nhLZ5spo this somehow bothers me
14:00:49 <mroman> 1 + 2 + 3 + ... = 1 + (1 + 1) + (1 + 1 + 1) + ... = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
14:01:07 <mroman> so sum_inf(i) == sum_inf(1)
14:01:43 <alercah> yep
14:01:46 <alercah> both are divergent
14:03:09 <int-e> mroman: 0 = (1 - 1) + (1 - 1) + ... = 1 - (1 - 1) - (1 - 1) - ... = 1 <-- much quicker.
14:03:34 <mroman> but 0 = 1 is worng
14:03:36 <mroman> *wrong
14:03:37 <int-e> but the message is simply that you cannot arbitrarily manipulate infinite sums.
14:03:40 <alercah> ^
14:04:00 <mroman> if I shift S by appending a zero I don't change it's value
14:04:02 <mroman> *its
14:04:07 <int-e> (you can do it with absolutely convergent series and that's basically it)
14:04:08 <alercah> it doesn't have a value
14:04:20 <mroman> so S - S_shifted should actually be zero
14:04:24 <alercah> no
14:04:26 <mroman> even though it also equals 1+1+1
14:04:32 <alercah> because you're assuming that the sum of S is a number
14:04:34 <alercah> it's not
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14:05:14 <mroman> the guys claiming it's -1/12 surely also assume it's a number
14:05:15 <alercah> and you can't apply commutativity of addition because you're working with infinite sums
14:05:42 <alercah> mroman: the -1/12 thing is in a very specific, restricted sense though
14:05:52 <int-e> mroman: Okay, let's refute it with bogus reasoning: The partial sums of S and the shifted S are different, e.g., (1 + 2 + 3 + 4) - (0 + 1 + 2 + 3) = 4... so why would the whole sum turn out to be the same?
14:06:37 <int-e> wrong reasoning leads to unpredictable answers.
14:06:43 <alercah> ^
14:09:50 <mroman> I dunno.
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14:10:02 <mroman> but to me it makes about as much sense as assigning it -1/12
14:10:13 <alercah> mroman: ignore the -1/12 thing
14:10:20 <mroman> even though -1/12 seems to be accepted so it's probably the more correct interpretations of things
14:10:23 <mroman> I just don't know *why*
14:10:32 <int-e> the -1/12 is not accepted
14:10:48 <int-e> it's an elaborate prank
14:10:51 <alercah> the -1/12 comes from a very specific type of summation
14:11:01 <int-e> zeta function, yadayada
14:11:31 <alercah> or ramanujan summation
14:18:10 <izabera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww watch numberphile to learn maths
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14:59:21 <b_jonas> `random
14:59:32 <b_jonas> `? random
14:59:36 <b_jonas> `wisdom
15:01:32 <HackEgo> sgeolang//Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place.
15:01:32 <HackEgo> No output.
15:01:33 <HackEgo> No output.
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15:11:55 <izabera> only >2 min lag
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15:57:38 <gamemanj> the MOD format is mostly documented, and then there's the timing information, which the document I looked at was quite vague about.
15:58:53 <gamemanj> basically it revolves around a tick, and ticks occur at (BPM / 2.5)hz
15:59:35 <b_jonas> `? mod
15:59:51 <HackEgo> mod? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
16:01:23 <gamemanj> here's the document I looked at: http://www.aes.id.au/modformat.html
16:02:24 <gamemanj> basically keep the bit I said above about tick=(BPM / 2.5)hz in mind when looking at the [15]: Set speed effect, since otherwise you'll have trouble figuring out what a "tick" actually is, even though things like slides use them
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19:16:42 <zzo38> 2600 did print my letter.
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19:27:49 <shachaf> What letter?
19:30:08 <zzo38> It says: Don't use ligature/smart-quotation-mark inside of fixpitch text! (Ligature/smart-quotation-mark should be used only on variable pitch text please)
19:30:50 <zzo38> They said I didn't add the appropriate amount of commans and periods in this request but id they they will keep an eye out for them
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19:34:26 <gamemanj> ...send a specific-use-of-characters-y letter, and you get a specific-use-of-characters-y response, I guess.
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19:59:14 <\oren\> We had problems recently with spamert quotation marks showing up in JSON
19:59:30 <\oren\> because apple are idiots
20:00:08 <\oren\> who subsitute quotes with smart quotes when you copypaste text from one window to anohter
20:00:12 <izabera> spamert -> smart ?
20:00:26 <\oren\> s/spamert/smart
20:02:45 <\oren\> essentially, somehow “ ” ended up in our code becuas eof copypasta
20:03:43 <izabera> it happens all the time in #bash ^^
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20:14:58 <zzo38> Is it possible to alter this function?
20:17:13 <wob_jonas> `free
20:17:45 <HackEgo> ​ total used free shared buffers cached \ Mem: 249752 6940 242812 0 0 3264 \ -/+ buffers/cache: 3676 246076 \ Swap: 0 0 0
20:17:46 <wob_jonas> ``` df | grep ^/
20:17:48 <HackEgo> df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
20:30:46 <wob_jonas> `perl warn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a;
20:30:48 <HackEgo> Can't open perl script "warn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a;": No such file or directory
20:30:54 <wob_jonas> `perl -ewarn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++$a;
20:30:55 <HackEgo> Can't modify preincrement (++) in preincrement (++) at -e line 1, near "$a;" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
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20:46:03 <zzo38> The front cover of this issue of 2600 has a picture of a telephone dial with 11 on it.
20:46:45 <wob_jonas> zzo38: http://www.xkcd.com/670/ ?
20:46:51 <wob_jonas> or more like an xkcd phone?
20:46:58 <zzo38> Does Hotel Pennsylvania have a telephone like that?
21:13:58 <fizzie> DTMF tones go up to D.
21:14:31 <fizzie> (0..9, *, #, A..D)
21:18:29 <fizzie> (Not really their "natural" order, but even there D would be highest.)
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21:22:05 <wob_jonas> the natural order starts with 1..9, right?
21:22:17 <wob_jonas> no wait, that's pulse
21:22:19 <wob_jonas> not dtmf
21:22:39 <fizzie> Some simple natural orders would be 123A456B789C*0#D and 147*2580369#ABCD. Others could be devised.
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21:23:44 <fizzie> 14275*38609AB#CD, for example.
21:23:57 <gamemanj> "simple"... "natural"...
21:24:30 <gamemanj> then again, if you look at the "natural" orders in groups of 4, it *kind of* makes sense?
21:25:06 <zzo38> I know that DTMF is like that, but the picture is a rotary dial and it goes up to eleven, instead of just ten like other telephones
21:27:03 <fizzie> gamemanj: Those three were, respectively, sorting by the low frequency as the first and the high frequency as the second key, the other way around, and by the average of the two frequencies.
21:27:25 <fizzie> (The first two are also the row-major and column-major readings of the typical keypad, for obvious reasons.)
21:27:30 <hppavilion[1]> Contrary to popular belief, wales actually is represented on the Union Jack
21:27:36 <hppavilion[1]> It's just behind all 3 other flags
21:27:45 <hppavilion[1]> So you can't see any part of it
21:27:55 <fizzie> I met a Welsh person the other night.
21:27:55 <hppavilion[1]> Because nobody cares about Wales
21:28:00 <hppavilion[1]> Seriously, fuck Wales
21:28:09 <fizzie> I think they'd disagree with the sentiment.
21:28:49 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Yes, well, they don't count, because they're welsh
21:28:52 <gamemanj> This is a call to order for anyone Welsh. Please voice your anti-hppavilion[1] sentiments, should you have any after the above comment. Sincerely, an Englishman.
21:29:40 <hppavilion[1]> (Then again, there is a fairly easy way to put Wales on the union jack- the top half remains the same, but the Scottish blue on the bottom becomes Welsh green)
21:30:02 <fizzie> One of the houses hereabouts (in London) had a sticker in the window saying something like "Proud to be Scots, Delighted to be United".
21:30:11 <fizzie> Judging from wear and tear, it predated the 'xit.
21:30:24 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Which `xit?
21:30:27 <fizzie> Bre.
21:30:29 <hppavilion[1]> brexit or... scexit?
21:30:30 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
21:30:34 <hppavilion[1]> `xit
21:30:37 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: xit: not found
21:30:42 <hppavilion[1]> `brexit
21:30:43 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: brexit: not found
21:30:47 <gamemanj> `?brexit
21:30:47 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?brexit: not found
21:30:50 <gamemanj> `? brexit
21:30:51 <HackEgo> brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space.
21:30:58 <wob_jonas> heh, that changed
21:31:00 <hppavilion[1]> Wow.
21:31:03 <hppavilion[1]> That's amazing.
21:31:05 <fizzie> https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottishpoliticalarchive/15264219953 <- might even have been this one.
21:31:06 <wob_jonas> and it's better
21:31:10 <wob_jonas> it refers to brk
21:31:26 <hppavilion[1]> See, I want to go share that
21:31:39 <hppavilion[1]> But I reflexively went to open irc to tell the people on #esoteric that joke
21:31:44 <hppavilion[1]> Then I remembered irc is open
21:31:47 <hppavilion[1]> And I'm in #esoteric
21:33:02 <gamemanj> flip, the memory inhibitors broke again half-way through
21:33:09 <shachaf> It's an old joke anyway.
21:33:11 * gamemanj contacts the engineer who designed the things
21:33:14 <shachaf> It was on Twitter before it was here.
21:33:58 * gamemanj has new memory inhibitors fitted into hppavilion[1]
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22:05:44 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, Northern Ireland doesn't really have its own flag
22:06:51 <\oren\> `? canada
22:07:01 <HackEgo> Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big.
22:07:39 <\oren\> it would be nice if we had a border wall
22:07:52 <\oren\> to keep americans and their guns out
22:09:01 <wob_jonas> `wisdom
22:09:06 <HackEgo> this//this is a word
22:09:07 <wob_jonas> `random-card
22:09:11 <HackEgo> Concerted Effort \ 2WW \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of each upkeep, creatures you control gain flying until end of turn if a creature you control has flying. The same is true for fear, first strike, double strike, landwalk, protection, trample, and vigilance. \ RAV-R
22:09:12 <wob_jonas> `wisdom
22:09:16 <HackEgo> whom//See: who
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22:13:57 <shachaf> `? who
22:13:59 <HackEgo> Who cares about ancient cases anyway?
22:14:12 <shachaf> `? him
22:14:13 <HackEgo> him? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:14:20 <shachaf> `le/rn him/See: he
22:14:27 <HackEgo> Learned «him»
22:14:31 <shachaf> `? he
22:14:33 <HackEgo> he? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:15:58 <wob_jonas> `? wall
22:16:01 <HackEgo> wall? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:16:22 <wob_jonas> the walls have more than just
22:17:17 <hppavilion[1]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Seychelles is the buzzwordiest flag I've ever seen
22:18:41 <ais523> apparently they redesign their flag to match the logo of the ruling party
22:18:50 <ais523> so I guess they need a new flag every time a different party wins?
22:20:22 <wob_jonas> hpp: doesn't seem much more buzzwordy than the wicket gate. the wooden pillar represents nature and misticism, the perspex pillar represents the power of science, the iron pillar represents the military strength of the Empire, the golden bail represents the prosperity of the Empire, the silver bail represents I don't remember what
22:20:33 <wob_jonas> maybe wisdom knows
22:20:37 <wob_jonas> `? wikket gate
22:20:39 <HackEgo> wikket gate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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22:35:39 <wob_jonas> `? Wikkit Gate
22:35:42 <HackEgo> Wikkit Gate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:40:02 <wob_jonas> So the Steel Pillar stands for the strength and power of befunge, the Wooden Pillar for the Nature and Spirituality of brainfuck, the Perspex Pillar for the Science and Reason of underload, the Golden Bail for the Prosperity of intercal, and the Silver Bail for the Peace of unlambda, or something.
22:40:16 <fizzie> ais523: Possibly a different party never wins.
22:40:37 <ais523> fizzie: it's happened several times already, with a flag change each time
22:41:13 <wob_jonas> ais: did they change the look of the flag, or only the explanation behind it?
22:43:33 <ais523> wob_jonas: the look too
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22:45:11 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Are you trying to explain the #esoteric flag?
22:45:36 <wob_jonas> hppavilion[1]: we have a flag? I thought we only had a secret handshake
22:45:52 <shachaf> wob_jonas: Who told you about the secret handshake?
22:45:55 <hppavilion[1]> `? blæg
22:45:56 <HackEgo> blaeg is a color that cannot exist under the current understanding of physics. It is used on the #esoteric flag, along with ultraviolet and whatever is convenient. It is a nullary color, meaning that it can be mixed with itself to produce the primary colors.
22:46:03 <hppavilion[1]> `culprits blæg
22:46:07 <shachaf> `cwlprits blæg
22:46:15 <wob_jonas> shachaf: nobody told me, cause <loud whisper>it's a secret
22:46:20 <shachaf> `? member
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22:46:31 <wob_jonas> hmm
22:46:36 <wob_jonas> does the flag have octarine?
22:46:40 <HackEgo> No output.
22:46:43 <HackEgo> I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway.
22:46:45 <HackEgo> boily
22:46:45 <wob_jonas> I tried to look but I don't see it
22:47:01 <shachaf> `` rgrep member wisdom
22:47:12 <wob_jonas> but that doesn't prove anything
22:47:14 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: No, but you can mix nullary to get octarine I presume
22:47:14 <HackEgo> wisdom/me:Me is a proud member of the tEaM. \ wisdom/interpreter:An interpreter (Latin "inter-", Old French "prestre") is unofficial correspondence between ordained members of the Church. \ wisdom/member:I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to k
22:48:47 <hppavilion[1]> `? boot
22:48:49 <HackEgo> boot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:48:52 <wob_jonas> `` rgrep -l member wisdom
22:48:54 <HackEgo> wisdom/me \ wisdom/interpreter \ wisdom/member \ wisdom/oerjan \ wisdom/amortized
22:48:55 <hppavilion[1]> `? canadian
22:48:56 <HackEgo> canadian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:49:04 <hppavilion[1]> `? /dev/null
22:49:05 <HackEgo> No output.
22:49:07 <shachaf> Why are you all taking a break suddenly?
22:49:10 <shachaf> There's no tea in team.
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22:49:23 <hppavilion[1]> ahoily
22:49:31 <boily> hppavellon[1]!
22:49:44 <hppavilion[1]> boily: We're discussing the flag of #esoteric
22:49:51 <boily> !
22:49:54 <hppavilion[1]> (It's 4-dimensional, too)
22:50:07 <hppavilion[1]> You know, if we lived in a 4D universe, we'd revolve around the sun in a torus shape
22:50:21 <hppavilion[1]> *orbit
22:52:05 <boily> we'd revolve around an orbit?
22:52:22 <wob_jonas> fungot, are you here?
22:52:22 <fungot> wob_jonas: it's a machine that looks like you! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered!
22:52:33 <hppavilion[1]> fnugot
22:52:54 <wob_jonas> thanks
22:53:41 <boily> wellob_jonas!
22:53:54 <boily> whence the wobprefix?
22:53:55 <shachaf> `random-card
22:53:58 <HackEgo> Tranquil Path \ 4G \ Sorcery \ Destroy all enchantments. \ Draw a card. \ AP-C
22:54:10 <shachaf> Draw a card?!
22:54:14 <shachaf> Cantrips are the best.
22:54:21 <ais523> mass enchantment destruction doesn't normally cost 5
22:54:28 <ais523> the situation with enchantments is weird
22:54:31 <zzo38> shachaf: Not necessarily?
22:54:35 <boily> cantrips are annoyingly efficient.
22:54:36 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Isn't it just a wo prefix?
22:54:43 <ais523> normally they're relatively rarely used, and thus nobody plays cards to destroy them
22:54:49 <wob_jonas> boily: it's because this is a wob-based irc client
22:54:56 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: Yes, but boily was talking about a wo bprefix.
22:54:58 <ais523> so you can normally assume that they're going to be pretty secure against destruction
22:55:03 <shachaf> Where a bprefix is a prefix for b_jonas.
22:55:08 <ais523> but cards that do destroy them tend to be crazily cheap and efficient
22:55:13 <ais523> so they only really work if nobody expects you to be using them
22:55:23 <shachaf> I guess that's what sideboards are for.
22:55:33 <shachaf> I've never played with a sideboard.
22:55:36 <boily> wob_jonas: ah, you're chitting on the wob.
22:55:41 <shachaf> Except in drafts, I guess.
22:55:42 <ais523> (right now, Dromoka's Command is a widely played card, and it happens to get rid of enchantments while being useful against non-enchantment decks, and thus enchantments are almost unplayable)
22:55:53 <ais523> what's our command for card stats?
22:55:59 <\oren\> hi i'm woll smoth!
22:56:04 <shachaf> `` ls bin/*card*
22:56:09 <HackEgo> bin/card-by-name \ bin/random-card
22:56:09 <boily> ho\\oron\!
22:56:12 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name Dromoka's
22:56:14 <HackEgo> Dromoka's Command \ GW \ Instant \ Choose two -- \ · Prevent all damage target instant or sorcery spell would deal this turn. \ · Target player sacrifices an enchantment. \ · Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. \ · Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control. \ DTK-R \ \ Dromoka's Gift \ 4G \ Instant \ Bolster 4. (Choo
22:56:24 <wob_jonas> `random-card Dromoka's
22:56:26 <HackEgo> Dromoka's Gift \ 4G \ Instant \ Bolster 4. (Choose a creature with the least toughness among creatures you control and put four +1/+1 counters on it.) \ DTK-U
22:56:37 <wob_jonas> `random-card gain 10 life
22:56:39 <HackEgo> Tower of Eons \ 4 \ Artifact \ {8}, {T}: You gain 10 life. \ MRD-R
22:57:00 <shachaf> What about in -- was it Theros?
22:57:03 <wob_jonas> `random-card shuffle your.*into.*graveyard
22:57:05 <HackEgo> No card found.
22:57:05 <shachaf> With all the enchantment creatures?
22:57:13 <wob_jonas> `random-card shuffle your.*into.*library
22:57:15 <HackEgo> Green Sun's Zenith \ XG \ Sorcery \ Search your library for a green creature card with converted mana cost X or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. Shuffle Green Sun's Zenith into its owner's library. \ MBS-R, V13-M
22:57:22 <shachaf> Legendary Enchantment Creature -- God
22:57:37 <ais523> shachaf: in Theros anti-enchantment cards got printed the blocks before and after instead
22:57:47 <ais523> `card-by-name erase
22:57:48 <HackEgo> Erase \ W \ Instant \ Exile target enchantment. \ UL-C, M13-C, KTK-C \ \ Erase (Not the Urza's Legacy One) \ 2W \ Instant \ If you control two or more white permanents that share an artist, you may play Erase (Not the Urza's Legacy One) without paying its mana cost. \ Remove target enchantment from the game. \ UNH-C
22:57:55 <wob_jonas> `random-card shuffle ixir(?s:.*)your.*into.*library
22:57:57 <HackEgo> No card found.
22:57:58 <ais523> M13 and KTK, see
22:58:17 <wob_jonas> ais: there's a better one than that, Quiet Purity
22:58:22 <shachaf> Did people play enchantment creatures in Theros constructed?
22:58:36 <ais523> shachaf: yes, although the fact they were enchantments was mostly irrelevant
22:58:44 <ais523> `card-by-name carven caryatid
22:58:46 <HackEgo> Carven Caryatid \ 1GG \ Creature -- Spirit \ 2/5 \ Defender (This creature can't attack.) \ When Carven Caryatid enters the battlefield, draw a card. \ RAV-U
22:58:51 <ais523> oh, hmm, I thought that was an enchantmnet
22:58:59 <wob_jonas> but there's a lot of choice in efficient enchantment destruction, I have lots of different cards for it
22:59:03 <ais523> so my first guess was wrong!
22:59:04 <shachaf> Erase is too good.
22:59:13 <shachaf> `card-by-name wear // tear
22:59:14 <HackEgo> Wear // Tear \ 1R // W \ Instant // Instant \ Destroy target artifact. \ Fuse (You may cast one or both halves of this card from your hand.) // Destroy target enchantment. \ Fuse (You may cast one or both halves of this card from your hand.) \ DGM-U
22:59:26 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name Quiet Purity
22:59:27 <HackEgo> Quiet Purity \ W \ Instant -- Arcane \ Destroy target enchantment. \ CHK-C
22:59:31 <zzo38> `card-by-name Enchanted Evening
22:59:32 <HackEgo> Enchanted Evening \ 3(w/u)(w/u) \ Enchantment \ All permanents are enchantments in addition to their other types. \ SHM-R
22:59:42 <ais523> wear//tear is eternal playable
23:00:01 <ais523> zzo38: that card might be good if it cost 4
23:00:17 <ais523> costing 5 means it's probably not going to be good enough to make competitive decks
23:00:38 <ais523> the obvious combo is with opalescence, preventing anyone playing lands ever and destroying all those that exist
23:00:52 <wob_jonas> `random-card when.*turned face up.*destroy target.*enchantment
23:00:54 <HackEgo> Daru Sanctifier \ 3W \ Creature -- Human Cleric \ 1/4 \ Morph {1}{W} (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.) \ When Daru Sanctifier is turned face up, destroy target enchantment. \ LGN-C
23:01:00 <shachaf> `card-by-name opalescence
23:01:01 <HackEgo> Opalescence \ 2WW \ Enchantment \ Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature in addition to its other types and has base power and base toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. \ UD-R
23:01:08 <wob_jonas> what? that's not the one I was thinking of
23:01:36 <wob_jonas> `random-card G$(?s:.*)face up.*destroy target.*enchantment
23:01:38 <HackEgo> Nantuko Vigilante \ 3G \ Creature -- Insect Druid Mutant \ 3/2 \ Morph {1}{G} (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.) \ When Nantuko Vigilante is turned face up, destroy target artifact or enchantment. \ LGN-C
23:01:41 <wob_jonas> that, yes
23:01:46 <zzo38> You should add a variant of card-by-name and random-card that omits reminder text.
23:01:56 <shachaf> ais523: I guess ais523game doesn't have timestamps like mtg?
23:02:06 <wob_jonas> zzo38: feel free to just modify random-card even with that name
23:02:28 <zzo38> OK
23:02:29 <shachaf> `cat bin/random-card
23:02:31 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' -- "$1"
23:02:35 <wob_jonas> `random-card \bshadow\b(?s:.*)destroy target.*enchantment
23:02:38 <HackEgo> Soltari Visionary \ 1WW \ Creature -- Soltari Cleric \ 2/2 \ Shadow (This creature can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.) \ Whenever Soltari Visionary deals damage to a player, destroy target enchantment that player controls. \ EX-C
23:02:55 <ais523> that's a pretty strong hoser too
23:03:01 <ais523> unles sthere's a lot of shadow in the block
23:03:03 <wob_jonas> (obviously such that you don't break the history)
23:03:10 <ais523> `card-by-name trygon predator
23:03:11 <HackEgo> Trygon Predator \ 1GU \ Creature -- Beast \ 2/3 \ Flying \ Whenever Trygon Predator deals combat damage to a player, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment that player controls. \ DIS-U, MMA-U, C15-U
23:03:15 <ais523> ^ vintage playable
23:03:27 <zzo38> Searches should also ignore reminder text
23:03:39 <shachaf> But I like reminder text.
23:03:46 <shachaf> Without it I wouldn't have known what Shadow does.
23:03:47 <ais523> zzo38: not really, if you want to find all cards that gain you 1 life, you'd want to find extort cards too
23:03:57 <ais523> really, searches should find reminder text even if it isn't on the card
23:04:04 <shachaf> `random-card extort
23:04:08 <HackEgo> Pontiff of Blight \ 4BB \ Creature -- Zombie Cleric \ 2/7 \ Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay {(w/b)}. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.) \ Other creatures you control have extort. (If a creature has multiple instances of extort, each triggers separately.) \ DGM-R, C14-R
23:04:21 <wob_jonas> zzo38: then maybe you should make a modified copy of the card database file, then modify the two commands to use that file instead of the current file
23:05:19 <zzo38> wob_jonas: Yes, that is I suggested to do different commands. (Although, it does not necessarily have to be another copy; the program could remove reminder text at runtime instead; I don't know what is better)
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23:05:59 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I think another copy would be better, because we may want to add more commands, and that would make it easier
23:06:25 <zzo38> wob_jonas: Yes that would, but would it waste disk space?
23:06:41 <zzo38> Do you like this kind of card I made up: Untap all Horrors. Remove all marked damage from all Horrors. Remove all Horrors from combat. Remove alll counters from all Horrors. Return all permanents attached to Horrors to their owner's hand. Counter all spells and abilities that target a Horror. Counter all other Horror spells. Horrors cannot attack this turn.
23:06:42 <wob_jonas> although don't forget that we have to repeat the conversion whenever the card database is updated
23:06:54 <wob_jonas> zzo38: runtime conversion for searching would waste cpu, I think that's worse
23:07:03 <zzo38> wob_jonas: Ah, OK then.
23:07:14 <wob_jonas> `du share/mtg/allsets.txt
23:07:16 <HackEgo> 0share/mtg/allsets.txt
23:07:37 <wob_jonas> ``` du -a share/mtg
23:07:39 <HackEgo> 696share/mtg/All Sets-2016-04-08.zip \ 3048share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt \ 0share/mtg/MagicCompRules.txt \ 0share/mtg/allsets.txt \ 632share/mtg/rules.txt \ 636share/mtg/MagicCompRules_20160408.txt \ 5016share/mtg
23:07:43 <zzo38> Database update could be done as another script though possibly, which will automatically do the conversion too.
23:07:56 <wob_jonas> ah, it's a symlink
23:08:02 <wob_jonas> `ls -ld share/mtg/allsets.txt
23:08:03 <HackEgo> ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
23:08:07 <wob_jonas> ``` ls -ld share/mtg/allsets.txt
23:08:10 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 22 May 8 19:59 share/mtg/allsets.txt -> allsets-2016-04-08.txt
23:08:22 <wob_jonas> ``` du share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt
23:08:23 <HackEgo> 3048share/mtg/allsets-2016-04-08.txt
23:08:28 <wob_jonas> 3 megabytes
23:09:08 <wob_jonas> zzo38: yes, although we have to issue the fetch as a separate bot command, some scripts can still help
23:10:06 <zzo38> Ah, yes a script could just do the conversion I suppose independent of the fetch
23:10:23 <wob_jonas> oh hey LOOK!
23:10:29 <wob_jonas> the Eldritch Moon release notes are out
23:10:33 <wob_jonas> let me check the fuse rules
23:10:39 <zzo38> Ah, let me see too
23:10:40 <wob_jonas> they have to be crazy to make that work
23:10:44 <wob_jonas> http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/eldritch-moon-release-notes-2016-07-08
23:11:02 <zgrep> `which ``
23:11:05 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/``
23:11:09 <wob_jonas> and let's find out what Gift of Immortality on a fused creature does!
23:11:22 <wob_jonas> also, find even more broken cases
23:11:32 <wob_jonas> ais523: can you help here with the rules stuff?
23:11:33 <zgrep> `` cat $(which "``")
23:11:44 <wob_jonas> um
23:11:51 <wob_jonas> melded creature. molded. or something
23:11:52 <wob_jonas> not fused
23:12:04 <HackEgo> No output.
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23:12:44 <zgrep> `cat /hackenv/bin/``
23:12:47 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooodl
23:13:00 <zgrep> `cat /hackenv/bin/`
23:13:01 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl
23:13:09 <zgrep> Huh.
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23:14:04 * zgrep should've used ' not "
23:14:37 <ais523> wob_jonas: 712.4c says implies that the enchantment is returned enchanting "each" card, not "both" cards
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23:15:03 <ais523> so depending on the order you choose for the actions to happen in, you can make it enchant either half
23:15:03 <ais523> (if it said "both", then the enchantment would fail to return because "two creatures" doesn't match "enchant creature")
23:16:40 <zzo38> A permanent can only be attached to a single player or object as far as I know, not more than one.
23:18:08 <ais523> `card-by-name spellweaver volute
23:18:11 <HackEgo> Spellweaver Volute \ 3UU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant instant card in a graveyard \ Whenever you cast a sorcery spell, copy the enchanted instant card. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost. If you do, exile the enchanted card and attach Spellweaver Volute to another instant card in a graveyard. \ FUT-R
23:18:16 <ais523> oh, hmm
23:18:21 <ais523> I thought there was an "enchant two cards" enchantment
23:18:38 <ais523> or "enchant instant card in a graveyard and sorcery card in a graveyard"
23:18:40 <ais523> something like that
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23:19:09 <wob_jonas> ais523: no way
23:19:25 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name enchant.*card.*and.*card
23:19:27 <ais523> maybe spellweaver volute was weird enough for them
23:19:27 <HackEgo> No output.
23:19:45 <wob_jonas> ais523: I think the rules actually forbid that somewhere
23:19:48 <ais523> wob_jonas: "by-name"?
23:19:56 <wob_jonas> `random-card enchant.*card.*and.*card
23:19:58 <HackEgo> Puppet Master \ UUU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ When enchanted creature dies, return that card to its owner's hand. If that card is returned to its owner's hand this way, you may pay {U}{U}{U}. If you do, return Puppet Master to its owner's hand. \ LE-U, CH-U
23:19:59 <wob_jonas> yes, good catch
23:20:06 <wob_jonas> `random-card ^enchant.*card.*and.*card
23:20:08 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:20:17 <wob_jonas> `random-card ^enchant.*\band\b
23:20:18 <ais523> `random-card enchant.*two
23:20:21 <HackEgo> Spectral Flight \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has flying. \ ISD-C
23:20:22 <HackEgo> Psychic Overload \ 3U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant permanent \ When Psychic Overload enters the battlefield, tap enchanted permanent. \ Enchanted permanent doesn't untap during its controller's untap step. \ Enchanted permanent has "Discard two artifact cards: Untap this permanent." \ DST-U
23:20:32 <ais523> `random-card enchant two
23:20:32 <wob_jonas> `random-card ^enchant\b.*card.*and.*card
23:20:46 <wob_jonas> `random-card ^enchant\b.*\btwo\b
23:20:52 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:20:52 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:20:53 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:21:07 <wob_jonas> seriously, I don't think the rules allow enchanting two objects or players
23:22:07 <ais523> oh, I think I was thinking of spellweaver helix
23:22:14 <ais523> but it's double imprint, not double enchant
23:22:21 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name spellweaver helix
23:22:22 <HackEgo> Spellweaver Helix \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Spellweaver Helix enters the battlefield, you may exile two target sorcery cards from a single graveyard. \ Whenever a player casts a card, if it has the same name as one of the cards exiled with Spellweaver Helix, you may copy the other. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cos
23:22:34 <wob_jonas> oh
23:23:55 <wob_jonas> ais523: so which card do you think interacts in rule-wise crazy ways with meld? I'm thinking especially of something that exiles a permanent and then refers to it
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23:24:29 <ais523> what's that card that exiles a creature and makes token copies of it?
23:24:42 <wob_jonas> how does Invader Parasite behave?
23:24:46 <ais523> presumably you'd get two tokens
23:25:16 <wob_jonas> `random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token copy of
23:25:17 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:25:19 <zzo38> Meld is now a way for an object to become two as it changes zones; puzzles could perhaps be made up that involve it!
23:25:21 <wob_jonas> `random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token copy
23:25:24 <HackEgo> No card found.
23:25:27 <wob_jonas> `random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token.*copy
23:25:29 <HackEgo> Soul Foundry \ 4 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Soul Foundry enters the battlefield, you may exile a creature card from your hand. \ {X}, {T}: Put a token that's a copy of the exiled card onto the battlefield. X is the converted mana cost of that card. \ MRD-R
23:25:36 <shachaf> ais523: Exiles from the battlefield?
23:25:40 <wob_jonas> `random-card exile(?s:.+\n.*)token.*copy
23:25:41 <HackEgo> Mimic Vat \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- Whenever a nontoken creature dies, you may exile that card. If you do, return each other card exiled with Mimic Vat to its owner's graveyard. \ {3}, {T}: Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of the exiled card. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. \ SOM-R
23:25:45 <ais523> shachaf: I think so
23:25:50 <ais523> not sure though
23:25:59 <ais523> I might have been thinking of mimic vat
23:26:01 <ais523> or duplicant
23:26:03 <ais523> `card-by-name duplicant
23:26:05 <HackEgo> Duplicant \ 6 \ Artifact Creature -- Shapeshifter \ 2/4 \ Imprint -- When Duplicant enters the battlefield, you may exile target nontoken creature. \ As long as a card exiled with Duplicant is a creature card, Duplicant has the power, toughness, and creature types of the last creature card exiled with Duplicant. It's still a Shapeshifter. \ MRD-R,
23:26:11 <shachaf> Or Soul Foundry above?
23:26:20 <ais523> I know I wasn't thinking of that one
23:26:52 <wob_jonas> shachaf: no, soul foundry exiles from your hand, that doesn't interact with meld at all because you can't have a melded card in your hand, not even momentarily
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23:27:13 <shachaf> I didn't even see your meld question.
23:29:56 <wob_jonas> 712.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them.
23:31:14 <zzo38> I would think that if it tries to become attached to both that it does both in sequence, and ends up attached to only one (but both are now in play); this is just a guess though and I am not exactly sure.
23:37:47 <hppavilion[1]> `? replicant
23:37:48 <HackEgo> replicant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:39:36 <hppavilion[1]> `? blade runner
23:39:38 <HackEgo> blade runner? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:39:40 <hppavilion[1]> `? blade jogger
23:39:41 <HackEgo> blade jogger? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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23:42:36 <wob_jonas> Ok, so suppose I have a Chittering Host (melded) permanent that happens to copy a land (say it's Cytoshaped) and choose to exile it to Extraplanar Lens. Then, does the lens look for lands that are named either Graf Rats or Midnight Scavengers (the two halves of that meld card)? Or does it look for lands that are named both Graf Rats and Midnight Sc
23:42:36 <wob_jonas> avengers at the same time (probably impossible)?
23:44:05 <ais523> wob_jonas: I don't tihnk you can find a land named Graf Rats without the use of Un-cards, at least if you're looking anywhere other than the battlefield
23:44:55 <wob_jonas> ais523: the lens is looking on the battlefield
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23:45:01 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name extraplanar lens
23:45:03 <HackEgo> Extraplanar Lens \ 3 \ Artifact \ Imprint -- When Extraplanar Lens enters the battlefield, you may exile target land you control. \ Whenever a land with the same name as the exiled card is tapped for mana, its controller adds one mana to his or her mana pool of any type that land produced. \ MRD-R
23:45:14 <wob_jonas> although even that way it might be impossible to get a land with that name, I dunno
23:45:56 <ais523> wob_jonas: oh, that's already got a ruling due to that card that copies triggered abilities
23:46:12 <ais523> I can't remember what the ruling is but there's already a way to imprint two cards on a card that expects only one
23:46:12 <wob_jonas> ah yes!
23:46:15 <wob_jonas> the rings
23:46:26 <ais523> `card-by-name rings of brighthearth
23:46:27 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name rings of bri
23:46:28 <HackEgo> Rings of Brighthearth \ 3 \ Artifact \ Whenever you activate an ability, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay {2}. If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. \ LRW-R
23:46:30 <HackEgo> Rings of Brighthearth \ 3 \ Artifact \ Whenever you activate an ability, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay {2}. If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. \ LRW-R
23:46:38 <wob_jonas> totally
23:46:40 <ais523> that's activated abilities
23:46:49 <ais523> there's one for triggered abilities too
23:46:49 <wob_jonas> um
23:47:05 <wob_jonas> `random-card copy.*triggered abilit
23:47:07 <HackEgo> Strionic Resonator \ 2 \ Artifact \ {2}, {T}: Copy target triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A triggered ability uses the words "when," "whenever," or "at.") \ M14-R
23:47:13 <wob_jonas> that
23:47:21 <shachaf> ais523: When are the rules for ais523game being released?
23:47:25 <ais523> right, I remembered it when I saw the name
23:47:34 <ais523> shachaf: hmm, do you want just rules, or some example cards?
23:47:37 <ais523> doing just the rules would be relatively easy
23:47:43 <shachaf> I'd like both.
23:47:55 <shachaf> But just the rules is surely better than nothing.
23:47:56 <ais523> trying to work out what I want in terms of a color pie, etc., though is harder
23:48:24 <shachaf> I've wondered what a simple core set of rules for a game as flexible as mtg would be like.
23:49:08 <ais523> well, one of my goals was to be able to implement an equivalent for most Magic cards whilst having simpler rules
23:49:15 <wob_jonas> .oO(what if a meld permanent copies Blacker Lotus?)
23:49:32 <ais523> I guess I'll start writing them down in a bit, it's all mental atm
23:49:56 <shachaf> I think there are a lot of small details of old cards that require disproportionate attention and edge cases in the rules.
23:50:19 <wob_jonas> ais523: do you version control your mental ideas with your mental scapegoat?
23:50:22 <ais523> that's why I said "most" not "all"
23:50:23 <wob_jonas> sorry, that was mean
23:50:24 <ais523> wob_jonas: no
23:50:40 <shachaf> Right.
23:50:52 <zzo38> I made up some newer custom Magic: the Gathering cards
23:51:25 <wob_jonas> zzo38: and new rules too for existing cards
23:51:50 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name Chaos Confetti
23:51:52 <HackEgo> Chaos Confetti \ 4 \ Artifact \ {4}, {T}: Tear Chaos Confetti into pieces. Throw the pieces onto the playing area from a distance of at least five feet. Destroy each card in play that a piece touches. Remove the pieces from the game afterwards. \ UG-C
23:52:00 <wob_jonas> `card-by-name Chaos Orb
23:52:01 <HackEgo> Chaos Orb \ 2 \ Artifact \ {1}, {T}: If Chaos Orb is on the battlefield, flip Chaos Orb onto the battlefield from a height of at least one foot. If Chaos Orb turns over completely at least once during the flip, destroy all nontoken permanents it touches. Then destroy Chaos Orb. \ A-R, B-R, U-R
23:52:12 <zzo38> Yes, such as deleting the "creatures can't be attached to anything" rule, and a modification to "bands with other" that as far as I can tell affects no existing combination of non-Un official cards anyways
23:53:49 <wob_jonas> just to make sure, in M:tG, we can already have two Power Taints enchanting each other, right?
23:54:04 <zzo38> `card-by-name Power Taint
23:54:06 <HackEgo> Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C
23:54:10 <wob_jonas> you get them into that state with Simic Guildmage
23:54:13 <zzo38> I think so.
23:55:28 <wob_jonas> is Simic Guildmage the only way to achieve that? or can you just return two Power Taints onto the battlefield at the same time and choose to attach to each other?
23:55:55 <ais523> wob_jonas: replenish probably works
23:55:59 <ais523> `card-by-name replenish
23:56:00 <HackEgo> Replenish \ 3W \ Sorcery \ Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.) \ UD-R
23:56:16 <ais523> hmm, that reminder text makes me wonder about the timing
23:56:23 <wob_jonas> or Ghostly Flicker + some liquimetal paint
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23:59:26 <hppavilion[1]> ...huh
23:59:46 <hppavilion[1]> I can't find any videos that take every use of the Force in the entirety of the Star Wars saga and put them together
2016-07-09
00:00:37 <wob_jonas> hpp: Star Wars is Disney's now, they take all Star Wars videos down
00:00:46 <wob_jonas> copyright inthingy thing
00:00:52 <wob_jonas> intimidation
00:01:07 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Yeah, but at least someone would have protested and won I would think
00:01:29 <wob_jonas> I'm not sure they would in this case
00:02:22 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: You can't really get anything Star Wars out of people moving things with the force in rapid succession
00:02:40 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Hell, Disney probably would've done it by now
00:02:43 <wob_jonas> hmm
00:02:56 <wob_jonas> a 2005 ruling on Replenish says "Auras can only be placed on permanents that were on the battlefield before this effect started to resolve. You can't put an enchantment onto the battlefield with Replenish and put an Aura that is also entering the battlefield onto one of those enchantments."
00:03:07 <wob_jonas> you have to determine what to enchant before you put them to the battlefield
00:03:12 <ais523> ah right
00:03:16 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, here's one: https://youtu.be/3IA-3C9dRSA
00:03:31 <ais523> I assume that ruling would also apply to other similar effects
00:03:40 <wob_jonas> ok, then I think Simic Guildmage might be the only way
00:04:01 <wob_jonas> there are some other cards that reattach auras, but they don't work in this case
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00:06:13 <oerjan> ciaoily!
00:07:05 <wob_jonas> what happens if I have two Power Taints enchanting each other, both with a liquimetal coating, there's a Teferi's Realm in play, and I choose to exile all artifacts?
00:07:30 <wob_jonas> as in, what happens in the next untap step when the two taints try to unphase
00:09:38 <shachaf> `card-by-name Teferi's REalm
00:09:40 <HackEgo> Teferi's Realm \ 1UU \ World Enchantment \ At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses artifact, creature, land, or non-Aura enchantment. All nontoken permanents of that type phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during his or her next unta
00:10:37 <zzo38> Rule 702.25g says: If an object would simultaneously phase out directly and indirectly, it just phases out indirectly.
00:10:37 <wob_jonas> Also, same question if only one of the Taints has a coating
00:10:58 <wob_jonas> zzo38: heheh
00:10:58 <zzo38> I suppose they remain phased out forever?
00:11:01 <shachaf> `card-by-name power taint
00:11:02 <HackEgo> Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C
00:11:54 <ais523> zzo38: agreed, that rule seems to imply that they'd phase out permanently
00:12:35 * oerjan thinks boily forgot to chicken out.
00:12:37 <wob_jonas> but don't indirectly phased out permanents still phase in?
00:12:55 <wob_jonas> the phasing rules are complicated and I never even had the illusion of understanding them
00:13:28 <zzo38> Indirectly phased out permanents phase in along with the permanent it is attached to (rule 702.25f).
00:13:48 <wob_jonas> hmm
00:14:01 <wob_jonas> ok, so what if only one of the Taints was coated? then one phases out directly and one indirectly
00:14:04 <wob_jonas> I think
00:14:19 <wob_jonas> or is the indirect phasing recursive so both phase out indirectly again?
00:16:35 <wob_jonas> "702.25f When a permanent phases out, any Auras, Equipment, or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out “indirectly.” An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out indirectly won’t phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the permanent it’s att
00:16:35 <wob_jonas> ached to."
00:17:25 <wob_jonas> "702.25h An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out directly will phase in attached to the object or player it was attached to when it phased out, if that object is still in the same zone or that player is still in the game. If not, that Aura, Equipment, or Fortification phases in unattached. ..."
00:17:49 <zzo38> It seem to me it would be recursive, so both phase out indirectly, but you should ask Wizards of the Coast anyways, I think
00:21:11 <wob_jonas> zzo38: by the way, have you tried to make a card that directly affects a phased out permanent specifically?
00:21:20 <wob_jonas> such as moves it to another zone
00:22:05 <zzo38> I do not remember but you can look up everything I have published
00:22:38 <wob_jonas> ah, there's Phase In
00:26:02 <boily> hellørjan. phone and IRC don't mix hth
00:29:04 <quintopia> helloily
00:29:39 <quintopia> havent seen you in here last few evenings
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00:33:48 <wob_jonas> Ok, crazy idea. You have in play a Graf Rats, and also a Chittering Host (melded card) that's cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. Graf Rats's ability triggers, so you exile both Graf Rats and Chittering Host. Then you're supposed to check the two exiled cards if they're a melded pair, but it turns out you have three exiled cards. Do you meld anythin
00:33:48 <wob_jonas> g, and if so, which Graf Rats?
00:34:07 <wob_jonas> (Graf Rats and Midnight Scavengers meld to Chittering Host.)
00:35:08 <wob_jonas> You could even find four cards in exile this way, and they could even be two Hanweir Battlements and two Hanweir Garrison.
00:35:30 <wob_jonas> ok, this is too crazy
00:36:46 <wob_jonas> hmm, or you could have a manifested face down Hanweir Garrison cytoshaped to a Graf Rats, and a manifested face down Hanweir Battlements cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers.
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00:37:36 <wob_jonas> (from rel notes) "712.2. One card in each meld pair has an ability that exiles both that object and its counterpart and melds them. To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined (see rule 701.34, “Meld”). The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards."
00:38:12 <boily> quintopia: quinthellopia! social life happened.
00:38:28 <wob_jonas> "701.34b Only two cards belonging to the same meld pair can be melded. Tokens, cards that aren’t meld cards, or meld cards that don’t form a meld pair can’t be melded."
00:39:22 <wob_jonas> "12.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them."
00:39:22 <quintopia> boily: there's no time for that. it's sgdq week AND camp nanowrimo!
00:39:40 <quintopia> boily: in your opinion, which is the most famous real chimp in history?
00:39:42 <wob_jonas> quintopia: isn't nanowrimo in november?
00:40:11 <quintopia> yes
00:40:23 <quintopia> second camp is july
00:40:45 <wob_jonas> "701.34a Meld is a keyword action that appears in an ability on one card in a meld pair. (...) To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined. The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards."
00:41:10 <wob_jonas> so you'd have to perform that on each of the exiled cards that came from exiling the melded permanent
00:41:41 <wob_jonas> as restricte by 701.34b
00:45:41 <wob_jonas> (and if there's no valid object to enchant, then you attach the aura to Gnome Ann)
00:46:08 <wob_jonas> well good night
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00:46:39 <oerjan> boily: shocking
00:48:54 <boily> quintopia: lucy.
00:49:02 <oerjan> lucy was a chimp?
00:49:06 <boily> oerjan: I know! lots of sudden boardgaming!
00:49:09 <boily> oerjan: I... guess so?
00:51:31 <oerjan> i think that's rather misinterpreted hth
00:52:36 <oerjan> hm oh there was a chimp called lucy
00:52:46 <oerjan> stupid non-injective naming
00:54:50 <quintopia> was there more than one damous non-human lucy?
00:54:53 <quintopia> *famous
00:55:07 <oerjan> quintopia: yes, although the other was prehistoric hth
00:55:35 <quintopia> eh, i'm willing to grant australopithecus provisional humanity :P
00:55:53 <oerjan> lucy the chimp seemed to have a sad ending
00:56:17 <oerjan> in norway, the most famous chimpanzee would be julius
00:57:50 <oerjan> he seems to be getting along better these days.
00:58:52 <quintopia> neat
01:00:15 <pikhq> quintopia: Considering that some people advocate for considering chimps "human" that's not completely crazy to grant.
01:00:22 * boily supports chimps and other fuzzy animals
01:01:35 <quintopia> pikhq: yeah it seems kind of arbitrary to say "you're not a human unless you understand the concept of a teacher intentionally helping you"
01:11:08 <quintopia> vr game idea: you and a friend stand on a giant room-sized NES controller, jumping onto the buttons to play SMB1
01:13:54 <boily> hmm...
01:13:56 * boily thinks
01:14:40 <boily> a giant NES controller, downtown on Ste-Catherine, with classic NES games projected on a building wall. that'd fit with the art installations.
01:14:44 <quintopia> even better if it weren't VR.
01:14:51 <quintopia> well
01:14:56 <quintopia> let's get crackalacking on that
01:18:30 <boily> build it out of maple, commission an art collective for a post-modern paintjob, hook a 'duino on the innards, rasp pi for the games, and bob's your uncle.
01:23:10 <quintopia> bill's his name actually, but close enough
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01:27:28 <oerjan> quintopia: obviously, if you did this he would change his name to bob
01:28:47 <quintopia> i'll take your word for it
01:30:05 <quintopia> boily: we can just buy and disassemble a steel dance pad, save half the work of making the buttons durable to people jumping on them
01:32:26 <boily> but but... maple...
01:32:35 * boily has a sentimental attachment towards maple
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01:43:03 <ratpuke> I'm here to be educated thoroughly. What is haskell used for
01:43:20 <quintopia> programming
01:43:25 <quintopia> hth
01:43:43 <ratpuke> Thanks babe
01:43:49 <quintopia> boily: time to increment your relcome counter
01:43:56 <boily> quintopia: just watch me :D
01:44:00 <boily> `relcome ratpuke
01:44:08 <HackEgo> ratpuke: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:44:17 <ratpuke> Rainbow welcome nice
01:44:26 <ais523> it's used for experimenting with functional programming features, mostly
01:44:33 <ratpuke> To bad its default black and white on my end
01:45:11 <ratpuke> Any day to day uses
01:49:06 <ais523> it's not too bad for writing compilers and similar tree-walking programs
01:49:26 <ratpuke> Mmm
01:49:31 <ratpuke> Sounds good
01:49:34 <ais523> also it's good for testing theories in computer science empirically
01:49:50 <ais523> via coding them in Haskell directly
01:50:12 <ratpuke> Might try it out
01:51:26 <boily> it's very nice for parsing data and mashing it in mysterious ways.
01:53:20 <quintopia> boily: only an hour now until the SMM blind kaizo team relay race starts
01:53:27 <quintopia> time for me to walk home
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01:55:33 <ais523> quintopia: less than an hour, it's going to start very soon
01:55:35 <ais523> they'rr already in setup
01:55:49 <ais523> try refreshing the schedule, it changes over time as runs go ahead and/or behind
01:59:32 <boily> quintopia: good walk! don't get lost! don't get bitten by any wandering cryptid!
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02:03:35 <oerjan> those wereticks can be nasty
02:05:17 <boily> I only fear "mouches à chevreuils". those bastards can make you bleed even if they bite through your clothes.
02:06:10 <boily> en:horseflies.
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02:06:14 <boily> `thanks wikipédia
02:06:18 <HackEgo> Thanks, wikipédia. Thikipédia.
02:07:25 <oerjan> now you're pulling my klegg
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02:08:46 <oerjan> oh i'm confusing with knott
02:09:03 * oerjan was wondering why he'd thought they were tiny
02:09:08 <shachaf> i'm confusing with klogg
02:09:14 * boily swats oerjan --------###
02:09:18 <shachaf> @google klogg
02:09:19 <lambdabot> http://theneverhood.wikia.com/wiki/Klogg
02:09:19 <lambdabot> Title: Klogg - The Neverhood Wiki - Wikia
02:09:34 <shachaf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgrkdzO6Ao
02:09:51 <shachaf> looks like an upstanding citizen
02:11:06 <oerjan> en:biting midges, it seems
02:11:14 <boily> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KjOXd7luraM/hqdefault.jpg ← an example of what they can do. caveat "not my legs" emptor.
02:15:50 <oerjan> caveat not clicking hth
02:36:15 <boily> time to go understand my mattress.
02:36:18 <boily> 'night all!
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02:38:45 <oerjan> hm
02:38:49 <oerjan> `cat bin/`
02:38:51 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl
02:39:06 <oerjan> doesn't that TIMEFORMAT line need an export?
02:39:34 <oerjan> or hm maybe it's only for use in an internal bash command?
02:39:48 <oerjan> `` time echo hi
02:39:50 <HackEgo> real: 0m0.003s, user: 0m0.000s, sys: 0m0.000s \ hi
02:39:59 <oerjan> `run time echo hi
02:39:59 <HackEgo> ​ \ real0m0.001s \ user0m0.000s \ sys0m0.000s \ hi
02:40:07 <oerjan> indeed
02:40:08 <pikhq> It would need an export, time is a bash internal.
02:40:12 <pikhq> *but
02:40:34 <oerjan> good, good
02:41:17 <pikhq> (this is not true of all shells though; other shells will end up executing the time binary in the PATH)
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03:18:24 <zzo38> One of the new Magic: the Gathering cards I made up will temporarily replace the rules text of one card with that of another card.
03:19:38 <ais523> zzo38: spell, permanent, or card in hand?
03:19:55 <ais523> I'd recommend doing it on permanents, otherwise overload/arcane could give problems
03:20:41 <zzo38> It does only affect permanents and can take the text only from permanent cards.
03:21:19 <zzo38> {X1}, {T}, Discard a permanent card with converted mana cost X: Target permanent's rules text becomes the discarded card's rules text until end of turn. Monstrosity 1. Scry 1.
03:24:10 <ais523> what's with the monstrosity?
03:24:10 <pikhq> I suspect that still makes the rules sad, but there's at least a chance that might work. Maybe.
03:24:36 <ais523> it doesn't prevent you using the ability multiple times
03:24:37 <ais523> it's just random
03:24:41 <zzo38> It is part of another card, which is why the monstrosity is there; it is just instead of a separate ability
03:25:01 <zzo38> (Same thing with scry)
03:25:20 <ais523> that's a complex card!
03:25:34 <zzo38> Yes it is.
03:26:07 <zzo38> You can look up that (and other) card in my collection of made up cards
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04:33:35 <wanderlust> I'm looking for a language were the future code changes what the previous code should be.
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04:34:32 <shachaf> `welcome wanderlust
04:34:54 <oerjan> sounds like Feather
04:34:55 <shachaf> `? feather
04:35:00 <shachaf> foiled by the oerjan
04:35:07 <oerjan> (which is alas vaporware)
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04:35:23 <shachaf> zzo38: Is vaporware Feather?
04:35:35 <zzo38> shachaf: I don't know
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04:35:42 <oerjan> i think you're confusing zzo38 and ais523
04:35:45 <HackEgo> wanderlust:
04:35:45 <HackEgo> feather? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:35:51 <oerjan> also possibly Feather and TwoDucks
04:36:14 <oerjan> well that was a timeout.
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04:36:38 <shachaf> oerjan: vaporware is a common acquaintance of zzo38's and mine
04:36:44 <oerjan> oh right
04:37:21 <shachaf> `? father
04:37:23 <oerjan> TwoDucks is also time traveling, but i'm not sure it's self modifying.
04:37:24 <HackEgo> father? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:38:31 <shachaf> `learn Father is an ancestor of Feather.
04:39:36 <ais523> feather can retroactively modify both data and code
04:39:58 <ais523> although to retroactively modify code, you need to go back to a point in time at which it was data
04:40:03 <alercah> ais523: I thought it could also retroactively modify the compiler?
04:40:06 <ais523> indeed
04:40:41 <ais523> but the interpreter is being interpreted by another Feather interpreter
04:41:06 <ais523> so you basically just have to find the data source that the outer interpreter is using for the source of the inner interpreter and change that
04:41:31 <ais523> this being Feather, there is probably some way to change the entire infinite stack of compilers stretching back forever; I'd be surprised if there wasn't
04:41:32 <wanderlust> \me is impressed with the recommendation
04:42:07 <ais523> that said, I get confused when trying to work out how the whole thing works
04:42:16 <ais523> perhaps unsurprisingly
04:42:21 <ais523> *infinite stack of interpreters
04:45:12 <\oren\> AAARGH
04:45:35 <\oren\> I'm trying to generate my font and FontForge keeps crashing
04:46:33 <\oren\> maybe this time it won't crash
04:47:40 <\oren\> I guess I ought to work faster on my bdf2ttf program
04:48:25 <alercah> ais523: what happens if two of them us the same data source? or is that prohibited by the theoretical model?
04:48:49 <ais523> alercah: most outright attempts to create a paradox end up leading to an infinite loop in Feather's model
04:53:38 <ais523> the time travel model is actually quite simple, it's just call/cc
05:00:55 <\oren\> Ok, this time it isn't crashing, it's just taking forever to vectorize the font.
05:07:10 <\oren\> http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/07/08/i-hate-you-japans-anime-style-mobile-romance-game-starring-girls-who-will-never-ever-love-you/
05:07:41 <\oren\> dating sim: realism overhaul
05:08:34 <\oren\> `? time
05:08:40 <shachaf> `wisdom
05:08:42 <HackEgo> time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:08:44 <HackEgo> yeeeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeeeesh.
05:08:50 <shachaf> `? yeeeeeeeesh
05:08:54 <HackEgo> See yeeeeeeesh.
05:08:59 <shachaf> See, this is why we need the jammed up rnooodl.
05:09:02 <shachaf> `? yeeeeeeesh
05:09:03 <HackEgo> See yeeeeeesh.
05:09:10 <shachaf> `? yeesh
05:09:11 <\oren\> `? yesh
05:09:16 <HackEgo> yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:09:16 <HackEgo> yesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:09:22 <\oren\> `? yeeesh
05:09:24 <HackEgo> See yeesh.
05:14:15 <\oren\> `? ttf
05:14:17 <HackEgo> ttf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:14:42 <shachaf> `1 cat wisdom/y*sh
05:14:50 <HackEgo> 1/1:See yeeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeesh. \ See yeeeesh. \ See yeeesh. \ See yeesh.
05:14:52 <\oren\> Torturous Toxin Font
05:15:55 <\oren\> Tcl Telemetry Font
05:16:53 <\oren\> `? tcl
05:16:54 <HackEgo> tcl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:17:25 <\oren\> `? bash
05:17:27 <HackEgo> bash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:17:37 <\oren\> `? perl
05:17:38 <HackEgo> Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language
05:17:47 <shachaf> `cwlprits perl
05:17:51 <HackEgo> mroman
05:18:05 <shachaf> Are you sure that's not PERL?
05:18:07 <\oren\> `? python
05:18:08 <HackEgo> python = ProgrammingLanguage(attrs=[plattrs['WHITESPACE_SENSITIVE'], plattrs['INTERPRETED'], *plparadigms['IMPERATIVE', 'FUNCTIONAL']])
05:18:18 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/python
05:18:23 <HackEgo> No output.
05:18:28 <shachaf> `cwlprits wisdom/python
05:18:33 <HackEgo> No output.
05:18:37 <shachaf> oops
05:18:41 <shachaf> too much wisdom
05:18:42 <shachaf> `cwlprits python
05:18:46 <HackEgo> shachaf hppavilion[1]
05:18:57 <shachaf> `? lisp
05:18:58 <HackEgo> ​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix)))
05:18:58 <\oren\> `? lisp
05:19:00 <HackEgo> ​(eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix)))
05:19:04 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/lisp
05:19:06 <HackEgo> No output.
05:19:08 <\oren\> `? jinx
05:19:09 <HackEgo> jinx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:19:32 <\oren\> `? c
05:19:33 <HackEgo> C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault
05:19:36 <shachaf> JINX Is Not XENIX
05:19:40 <shachaf> `cwlprits c
05:19:46 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia
05:20:19 <\oren\> `? d
05:20:21 <HackEgo> D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language.
05:20:30 <\oren\> `? x
05:20:31 <HackEgo> x? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:20:42 <\oren\> `? a
05:20:43 <HackEgo> A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
05:21:03 <\oren\> `? b
05:21:03 <shachaf> `? bbc
05:21:08 <HackEgo> B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether.
05:21:08 <HackEgo> The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it.
05:21:25 <\oren\> `? e
05:21:26 <HackEgo> e? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:21:32 <\oren\> `? j
05:21:35 <HackEgo> j? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:21:53 <\oren\> `? w
05:21:54 <HackEgo> w? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:22:02 <shachaf> `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#\.#, and villages in Norway#
05:22:05 <HackEgo> wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation, and villages in Norway Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs. Taneb invented it.
05:22:15 <shachaf> oops
05:22:16 <shachaf> `revert
05:22:42 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
05:22:44 <shachaf> `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway#
05:22:49 <HackEgo> wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway Taneb invented it.
05:22:58 <oerjan> >_>
05:23:04 <shachaf> oh
05:23:05 <shachaf> right
05:23:07 <shachaf> well
05:23:08 <shachaf> `revert
05:23:10 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
05:23:24 <shachaf> can't turn back now
05:23:31 <shachaf> `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway.#
05:23:34 <HackEgo> wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it.
05:24:05 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; ls ?
05:24:07 <HackEgo> ​` \ ^ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ * \ \ \ ☃ \ ⊥ \ ꙮ \ ⌨ \   \ 𝕈 \ 🐐 \ 🐚 \ \ 0 \ 1 \ 9 \ a \ å \ Å \ b \ c \ d \ i \ k \ l \ o \ ø \ Ø \ ß \ u \ y \ э \ Э \ Я
05:24:37 <\oren\> `? ☃
05:24:38 <HackEgo> Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go.
05:24:44 <\oren\> lol
05:25:17 <\oren\> `? Я
05:25:18 <HackEgo> ​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:25:24 <shachaf> Hmm, how can I look up arbitrary Unicode wisdoms when I only have an ASCII keyboard?
05:25:37 <oerjan> hm
05:25:40 <shachaf> `? should support punycode or something.
05:25:55 <\oren\> shachaf: use tmux to copypaste
05:25:56 <oerjan> `wisdom Я
05:25:58 <HackEgo> ​Я//Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet
05:26:08 <oerjan> `? Я
05:26:09 <HackEgo> ​Я? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:26:13 <oerjan> hmph
05:26:17 <oerjan> `cat bin/?
05:26:19 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl;
05:26:25 <\oren\> `? Э
05:26:26 <HackEgo> eh?
05:26:28 <oerjan> `cat bin/lowercase
05:26:30 <HackEgo> sed 's/./\l&/g;s/Ø/ø/g'
05:26:39 <oerjan> hm i see.
05:27:06 <\oren\> `wisdom э
05:27:08 <HackEgo> ​Э//EH?
05:27:30 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | diff - ../tmp/w
05:27:33 <HackEgo> No output.
05:27:36 <oerjan> er
05:27:43 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | lowercase | diff - ../tmp/w
05:27:46 <HackEgo> 24c24 \ < å \ --- \ > Å \ 33c33 \ < ø \ --- \ > Ø \ 38,39c38,39 \ < э \ < я \ --- \ > Э \ > Я
05:27:58 <\oren\> `? 핈
05:27:59 <HackEgo> ​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:28:06 <oerjan> hmph
05:28:13 <shachaf> For consistency, `? should be renamed to `cwt
05:28:25 <oerjan> `hoag bin/lowercase
05:28:31 <HackEgo> ​<izabera> ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g;s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ <izabera> ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ <izabera> ` echo sed \'s/./\\l&/g\' > bin/lowercase \ <izabera> ` echo tr A-Z\xc3\x98 a-z\xc3\xb8 > bin/lowercase \ <oerjan> ` sed -i "s!z!z | sed \'s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'!" bin/lowercase \ <shachaf> revert \ <sh
05:28:37 <\oren\> `wisdom 핈
05:28:39 <HackEgo> cat: : No such file or directory \ //
05:28:42 <oerjan> `url bin/lowercase
05:28:46 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/lowercase
05:29:22 <\oren\> `? ⊥
05:29:24 <HackEgo> ​⊥ is a bottom tack, useful for annoying teachers.
05:29:36 <shachaf> `mkx bin/howg//hoag "wisdom/$1"
05:29:41 <HackEgo> bin/howg
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05:29:49 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6185 bin/lowercase
05:29:52 <\oren\> `? k
05:30:05 <\oren\> `? l
05:30:09 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z | sed 's/Ø/ø/g'
05:30:11 <HackEgo> K K K Ken
05:30:11 <HackEgo> L is far too short to be a village in Wales.
05:30:18 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6185 bin/lowercase >bin/lowercase
05:30:29 <HackEgo> No output.
05:30:45 <\oren\> `? ¿
05:30:47 <HackEgo> ​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿?
05:30:48 <oerjan> `? Я
05:30:50 <HackEgo> ​Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet
05:31:04 <oerjan> there you go. i knew izabera's changes would break stuff.
05:31:15 <shachaf> ya
05:31:36 <oerjan> shachaf: are you confirming, or just pronouncing the letter aloud?
05:31:40 <shachaf> ya
05:31:57 <\oren\>
05:32:00 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
05:32:07 <\oren\>
05:32:10 <shachaf> oerjan: What was that pun that you didn't get the other day?
05:32:13 <\oren\>
05:32:53 <shachaf> I was going to explain it but I forgot.
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05:33:14 <oerjan> `rm tmp/w
05:33:16 <shachaf> Oh, right.
05:33:17 <HackEgo> No output.
05:33:27 <shachaf> oerjan: Single-layer perceptron networks can't compute xor.
05:33:52 <\oren\>
05:35:02 <oerjan> \oren\: you can try those that weren't working again now, i just fixed a recently introduced feature.
05:35:59 <\oren\> 丨ㄚ
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05:36:27 <\oren\> `? 핈
05:36:29 <HackEgo> ​핈? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:36:40 <\oren\> `? Э
05:36:41 <HackEgo> EH?
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05:37:08 <\oren\> `? э
05:37:11 <HackEgo> eh?
05:37:27 <\oren\> `? ☃
05:37:28 <HackEgo> Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go.
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05:37:45 <oerjan> shachaf: huh i suspected xor was involved.
05:38:07 <shachaf> oerjan: it was bound to happen hth
05:38:21 <oerjan> but i'm more familiar with circuit complexity than neural networks.
05:40:11 <\oren\> YAY the autotrace finished!
05:40:44 <shachaf> oerjan: but are you familiar with hugs
05:41:33 <shachaf> `? twh
05:41:35 <HackEgo> twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand.
05:41:45 <\oren\> `? hand
05:41:46 <HackEgo> A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird.
05:41:57 <\oren\> `? bird
05:41:58 <HackEgo> bird bird bird bird
05:42:09 <\oren\> `? canary
05:42:10 <HackEgo> No output.
05:42:29 <oerjan> i used hugs for several years hth
05:42:38 <\oren\> `? hg
05:42:39 <HackEgo> hg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:42:43 <\oren\> `? hug
05:42:46 <HackEgo> hug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:43:07 <shachaf> `? tdh
05:43:08 <HackEgo> tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth.
05:43:20 <shachaf> twh is the subjunctive tense of a future hth
05:44:51 <\oren\> `le/rn hg/hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury.
05:44:56 <HackEgo> Learned «hg»
05:45:18 <shachaf> `? oerjan
05:45:19 <HackEgo> Your mysterious articled cackling zombie underlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
05:45:37 <shachaf> `slwd oerjan//s#under#oever#
05:45:40 <HackEgo> wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie oeverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
05:46:26 <\oren\> `? sled
05:46:29 <HackEgo> ​`sled <filename>//<sed script>
05:46:43 <oerjan> `slwd oerjan//s/oe/ø/
05:46:45 <HackEgo> wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
05:47:54 <oerjan> that's funny, i don't even know real hg.
05:48:26 <oerjan> `? slwd
05:48:27 <HackEgo> slwd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:49:19 <oerjan> `le/rn slwd/`slwd <wisdom name>//<sed script>
05:49:22 <HackEgo> Learned «slwd»
05:50:08 <shachaf> `cat bin/slwd
05:50:10 <HackEgo> sled "wisdom/$1"
05:51:46 <oerjan> `cat bin/sled
05:51:47 <HackEgo> ​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; }
05:52:07 <shachaf> oerjan: i was going to do a clever `slwd ../bin/slwd thing
05:52:15 <shachaf> but then i didn't have one
05:52:16 <oerjan> OKAY
05:52:26 <oerjan> *sad trombone*
05:54:29 <\oren\> wo wo wowowowowo
05:55:58 <\oren\> argh why is fontforge getting so sloooooooow
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06:28:07 <moonythedwarf> moo
06:28:18 <\oren\> I uploadted the new version!
06:28:21 <\oren\> 悦悩惑惜惧惨惰愁愉愚慄慈慌慎慕慢慨慮慰慶憂憎憚憤憧憩憬憶憾懇懐懲懸
06:28:24 <\oren\> ⚝⚞⚟⚠⚡⚢⚣⚤⚥⚦⚧⚨⚩⚲⚳⚴⚵✍✎✐⤧⤨⤩⤪⤫⤬⤭⤮⤯⤰⤱⤲⤳⤸⤹⤺⤻⤼⤽⥂⥃⥄⥅⥆⥇⥊⥋⥌⥍⥎⥏
06:28:27 <\oren\> ⥐⥑⥒⥓⥔⥕⥖⥗⥘⥙⥚⥛⥜⥝⥞⥟⥠⥡⥢⥣⥤⥥⥦⥧⥨⥩⥪⥫⥬⥭⥮⥯⧨⧩⧪⧫⧬⧭⧮⧯⧰⧱⧲⧳㋐㋑㋒㋓㋔㋕㋖㋗㋘㋙㋚㋛㋜㋝㋞㋟
06:28:31 <\oren\> ㋠㋡㋢㋣㋤㋥㋦㋧㋨㋩㋪㋫㋬㋭㋮㋯㋰㋱㋲㋳㋴㋵㋶㋷㋸㋹㋺㋻㋼㋽㋾㍱㍲㍳㍴㍵㍶㍷㍸㍹㍺㍻㍼㍽㍾㎀㎁㎂㎃㎄㎅㎆㎇㎈㎉㎊㎋
06:28:34 <\oren\> 2
06:29:01 <moonythedwarf> i ported my bot to discord and finally went to learning node.js
06:30:12 <\oren\> I have passed the 8000 character mark
06:31:21 <moonythedwarf> if anyone wants the SRC im willing to share it
06:31:33 <shachaf> \oren\: That sounds like quite a novel.
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06:43:01 <Sgeo> HAHAHAHA Elixir and Rust have warts that, if you squint, look similar
06:53:47 <\oren\> Sgeo: like waht?
06:54:09 <Sgeo> <Sgeo> Hmm, functions with optional arguments can't be captured as a function argument with optional arguments, just the different possible arities are each one possible function. Funnily, this reminds me of a Rust wart, you can have generic functions, but can't capture them as a value that takes generics.
06:55:08 * Sgeo curses HexChat copy behavior
06:55:15 <shachaf> Sgeo: When are you scheduled to get obsessed with Swift?
06:55:28 <Sgeo> <Havvy> Sgeo: Sure, but the Rust one will be fixed once HKT is ever implemented, and in Elixir, you don't want to store functions for very long, so you're probably not passing them to somebody who would want the optional argument behaviour.
06:56:15 <\oren\> ``once ... is ever'' interesting construction
06:56:16 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `once: not found
06:56:52 <\oren\> simultaniously implying soon and not soon
06:56:52 <oerjan> not even `once
06:58:06 <shachaf> should've used `àwesome quoteś´
06:58:31 <\oren\> what the
06:58:38 <shachaf> or perhaps ònce-awesome quoteś
06:58:51 <\oren\> `unidecode `à
06:58:52 <HackEgo> ​[U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+00E0 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE]
06:59:01 <\oren\> ooh
07:03:02 <shachaf> \oren\: you've made a grave error
07:03:56 <moon_> lol
07:07:51 <Sgeo> shachaf, not sure. An interest in iOS would probably help.
07:08:05 <Sgeo> I briefly wondered about Objective-C but lost interest
07:08:27 <shachaf> But Swift runs on Linux.
07:08:35 <shachaf> And it has algebraic data types and everything you like.
07:08:58 <zzo38> Objective-C is a strict superset of C as far as I know, so any C code will also work in a Objective-C program.
07:09:18 <shachaf> C++ is a strict superset of a strict subset of C.
07:09:35 <shachaf> So any C code which is also C++ code is also C++ code.
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07:48:44 <\oren\> Hmm what should I add next?
08:26:14 <zzo38> I have a code if(rom_here-instruction_pos<17 && rom[instruction_pos]==(cell)0x8BBE+rom_here-instruction_pos) { but it says that "+rom_here-instruction_pos" is an invalid suffix for an integer constant. Adding a space before the plus sign works though.
08:27:06 <zzo38> Why does it do that?
08:27:14 <int-e> 3e10
08:27:20 <int-e> 3e+10
08:27:26 <int-e> looks a bit like a float?
08:29:14 <shachaf> zzo38: Who says that?
08:29:32 <zzo38> Who says what?
08:29:45 <Phantom_Hoover> is this php
08:30:02 <zzo38> No it is a C code
08:31:08 <hppavilion[1]> Someone needs to make Crime Statistics Bureau - San Francisco into a real TV show
08:31:14 <hppavilion[1]> CSB:SF
08:31:17 <Phantom_Hoover> maybe it's te
08:31:20 <Phantom_Hoover> *the cast?
08:31:23 <hppavilion[1]> (I'll wait for everyone to google that before I expand on the joke)
08:32:23 <hppavilion[1]> Also, the Dunning-Kruger effect should be renamed to the Trump effect
08:42:01 <int-e> zzo38: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3885
08:44:33 <zzo38> O, so it is supposed to work like that.
08:46:05 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: the meme version of the dunning-kruger effect is simply misinterpreted hth
08:46:45 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Well, I went to Wikipedia and it agrees with what I thought it is
08:46:55 <hppavilion[1]> Just checked 538, and thank god, trump is unlikely to win
08:47:02 <hppavilion[1]> Instead, we get Clinton.
08:47:05 <zzo38> One of the bugs marked as a duplicate of that one looks like it is not a duplicate
08:47:07 <hppavilion[1]> So, yeah, that's a relief
08:47:15 <hppavilion[1]> At least it's a crazy person I slightly agree with
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08:50:49 <zzo38> Bug 11494 is not a duplicate of bug 3885.
08:55:14 <Vorpal> Hm is C integer division flooring or truncating? Or is it implementation defined?
08:56:02 <hppavilion[1]> Gah
08:56:29 <hppavilion[1]> I'm looking for an old news report about MLKj (preferably the first one about him on a national news station)
08:56:39 <hppavilion[1]> Has to be on YT
08:56:41 <hppavilion[1]> So I can make a funny commnet
09:02:18 <moon_> Im most likely the most dead man on earth. Duckgoosecrashes the server hbot runs on
09:03:00 <Phantom_Hoover> hppavilion[1], plz tell me that this plan is not as shitheaded as it sounds
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09:07:40 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: How is it shitheaded?
09:08:22 <Phantom_Hoover> it sounds like you're trying to troll videos of MLK with stupid comments about recent events
09:11:55 <Phantom_Hoover> and if that is what you're doing, well, i genuinely quite like you and i would be very disappointed to see you get sucked into destructive hatred
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09:36:41 <hppavilion[1]> Say what you like about Trump, but if he becomes president, there will be a HUGE boost to export
09:36:47 <hppavilion[1]> Primarily in the export of Mexicans
09:42:07 <int-e> Vorpal: IIRC it depends on the C version; in C11 / is defined to truncate towards zero; earlier versions only defined / for nonnegative numbers and made the behvior on negative numbers implementation-defined.
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09:47:35 <int-e> Hmm, s/C11/C99/, apparently. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3602827/what-is-the-behavior-of-integer-division-in-c/3602857#3602857
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10:07:27 <hppavilion[1]> http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/foreign-body-rectum notes that "fruits and vegetables" are a common examp;e
10:07:33 <hppavilion[1]> s/;/l/
10:07:53 <hppavilion[1]> "fruits and vegetables", of course, links to http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/ss/slideshow-exotic-fruits
10:08:05 <int-e> how interesting
10:10:37 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: You should not go looking for recipes immediately after you have removed a foreign body from your rectum, especially if said foreign body is an ingredient in those recipes
10:13:11 <shachaf> I kind of don't get what you're doing in general, but listening to Phantom_Hoover is probably not a bad idea.
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10:49:23 <wob_jonas> What's this guy doing? Doesn't he know this is a speedrunning event? He's lost frames on level 2.
10:49:52 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: Oh, no, it's not about recent events. Exactly. I think.
10:50:01 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: It would be more of a joke about idiots on the internet
10:50:48 <hppavilion[1]> Phantom_Hoover: MLK was a cool guy, and I have nothing against him; he's just the first person that I thought of to use as a vessel for the joke (also, I'm probably not going to watch it otherwise)
10:51:01 <hppavilion[1]> AND it would probably be Fox News or something, so there's that
10:52:04 <hppavilion[1]> Though, now that I think about it, lots of people probably wouldn't get the joke
11:03:29 <wob_jonas> well this was horrible
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11:04:25 <hppavilion[1]> Wat?
11:04:33 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, e's gone
11:09:33 <izabera> http://www.lulu.com/shop/brian-hall/beejs-guide-to-network-programming/paperback/product-18179133.html
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11:41:51 <hppavilion[1]> If it's possible to make 2.5D, is it possible to make 3.5D?
11:43:13 <gamemanj> it depends on how you define 2.5D...
11:43:56 <gamemanj> If you consider Doom a 2.5D engine, then really all "2.5D" means is "3D with geometry restrictions due to optimization". You could probably apply the same logic to higher dimensions.
11:49:59 <izabera> but what about pi d
11:53:19 <int-e> hmm, isn't I though 2.5D also used for parallax scrolling...
11:57:23 <gamemanj> it depends which meaning of 2.5D you're using, which makes things even more difficult...
12:03:15 <int-e> 38 blocks to go
12:03:43 <Phantom_Hoover> 2.5D normally means 3D rendering but 2D player movement, ime?
12:04:34 <int-e> yay, yet another meaning
12:07:05 <Phantom_Hoover> well smash and doom are the things that come to mind for 2.5D for me
12:07:26 <Phantom_Hoover> int-e, i mean it's an inherently imprecise term
12:08:10 <izabera> game maker used to have 3d rendering and 2d player movements
12:08:17 <izabera> it was fun
12:08:57 <izabera> that was up to at least game maker 6, idk if it's real 3d now
12:09:09 <fizzie> The "Trials" series -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_(series) -- is I think sometimes called 2.5D as well.
12:09:55 <fizzie> It's (at least in the latest incarnations) very much a generic 3D renderer except the player character is restricted to a 2D "plane".
12:10:19 <fizzie> Well, it's more of a twisting, turning track thing.
12:12:31 <int-e> Phantom_Hoover: thinking about it the idea that parallax scrolling is 2.5D may date back to before 3D rendering became ubiquitous.
12:14:57 <Phantom_Hoover> yeah i guess there's also the rendering term which is basically used for "rendering methods which try to look 3D without making everything into a polygon mesh"
12:17:44 <int-e> Hmm, I was excited to hear about a successor to "Limbo" which imho is a great (though creepy) 2D jump&run puzzle... but all the screenshots look 3D... less excited now.
12:17:45 <fizzie> Like raytracing with CSG? ;)
12:18:21 <int-e> s/\.\.\./ game&/
12:19:00 <fizzie> LIMBO was great.
12:19:03 <Phantom_Hoover> we're talking about games fizzie, the only* games that use raytracing use it as prerendered images
12:19:14 <Phantom_Hoover> *im sure there's some dumb exception
12:19:25 <hppavilion[1]> I prefer 2D rendering for 3D player movements
12:19:31 <hppavilion[1]> (Hm, that could actually work...)
12:19:58 <Phantom_Hoover> in some sense that's what e.g. mario kart on the snes did
12:20:18 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Wars:_Ray_Traced ... oh Larrabee ... hahahaha
12:21:30 <fizzie> Realtime raytracing gets done a lot in demoscene stuff.
12:21:31 <int-e> (the reason I'm laughing isn't that I think that the idea of having many general purpose CPUs on a chip isn't appealing... it's the idea that anybody would care about those CPUs being x86 compatible)
12:22:00 <fizzie> I'm sure a lot of the time there's still polygon meshes involved, though.
12:22:46 <fizzie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLR4knU0rvM probably doesn't, but...
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12:25:40 <gamemanj> spheres, the second easiest object to raytrace in the universe (the truly easiest is the diamond, because then you can use manhattan distance, and working out the normal is just 3 comparisions and a table)
12:26:00 <int-e> hmm, is there a worthy modern successor to povray? I'm looking for some sort of declarative, CSG based, language for describing scenes, plus a reasonable renderer. (and I'm in principle happy to still use povray for that)
12:26:30 <Phantom_Hoover> gamemanj, a cube is surely easier than a sphere
12:26:50 <gamemanj> Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but then you have to work out the normal
12:27:23 <Phantom_Hoover> still just a table, no?
12:27:23 <gamemanj> while with a sphere you can just normalize the position you hit at
12:27:39 <fizzie> I haven't heard of any "spiritual successors" of POV-Ray.
12:27:51 <int-e> reflective spheres are very common in raytracing because they are really easy to trace and really hard to render convincingly with other techniques.
12:29:33 <fizzie> (The original is still sort-of alive, though, I understand.)
12:30:08 <int-e> for example, it's still packaged for debian
12:31:04 <fizzie> https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/graphs/commit-activity ... well. The numbers are non-zero, that's something.
12:32:25 <FireFly> refractive spheres too, for that matter
12:32:47 <int-e> perhaps it just fills this particular niche well enough that nobody wants to create a successor.
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14:33:09 * hppavilion[1] is the creature that feasts on dreams, btw
14:34:18 <izabera> "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner." -- Oscar Wilde
14:39:09 <gamemanj> that's an interesting design for a vaccum cleaner... blowing the dust away
14:45:41 <hppavilion[1]> OK, what the fuck Lady Gaga
14:45:51 <hppavilion[1]> What's with the swan
14:45:52 <hppavilion[1]> That's weir
14:45:55 <hppavilion[1]> d
14:46:00 * gamemanj is confused
14:46:22 <gamemanj> I think that "ContextBot" thing XKCD suggested might be good right now...
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15:25:13 <boily> `wisdom
15:26:26 <HackEgo> associativity//Associativity means that h(th) = (ht)h, if you're flexible about it.
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15:33:41 <quintopia> helloily
15:33:56 <quintopia> are you hype for tasbot block?
15:42:05 <boily> quinthellopia
15:42:09 <boily> tasbot block?
15:55:41 <FireFly> TASes! on SGDQ!
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16:21:18 <fizzie> Oh, I'd completely forgotten about SGDQ going on. :/
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16:23:14 <fizzie> Have I missed anything great?
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16:27:57 <gamemanj> just a great <noun/person> entering the <name/cheat sequence, company> code to begin the <verb/attack> of the <house/place> at the end of world <number>
16:28:06 <gamemanj> Or something
16:28:24 <FireFly> fizzie: I guess it depends on what you're interested in
16:28:43 <FireFly> DK64 was glitchy and nice
16:28:52 <fizzie> Glitchy is generally fun.
16:29:32 <FireFly> The DK64 run involved a detour into multiplayer and glitching out of multiplayer to keep pickups in the single-player game
16:29:49 <FireFly> Creative routing
16:53:14 <boily> @metar CYUL
16:53:17 <lambdabot> CYUL 091523Z CCA 10009KT 15SM -SHRA BKN015 OVC020 19/16 A2978 RMK SC5SC3 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP085 DENSITY ALT 700FT
16:53:30 <boily> CVCTV?
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17:04:40 <int-e> 'CVCTV CLD - Convective Cloud'
17:04:57 <boily> thint-ello.
17:05:05 <int-e> but afaiui, anything following RMK is not fully standardized anyway
17:06:38 <int-e> 6 more blocks before, well, perhaps nothing much happens.
17:08:27 <int-e> I've thought about this some more and I figure it depends on how many of the bitcoin miners are opportunistic... selling off their hard earned bitcoins for the market price immediately
17:08:53 <int-e> all those can just stop mining when the reward is halved and wait the transition out
17:12:08 <Vorpal> fizzie, they put up the runs on youtube afterwards. In fact they are not very far behind. Somewhere between 1 and 2 days behind
17:12:37 <Vorpal> FireFly, also I believe the TAS segment hasn
17:12:42 <Vorpal> hasn't* started yet?
17:12:47 <FireFly> Indeed
17:13:05 <Vorpal> FireFly, when is it?
17:13:18 <Vorpal> This evening or tonight, right?
17:15:07 <FireFly> Yep, I think about 22:00
17:15:15 <FireFly> 10:44 PM TASBot plays Super Mario Land 2
17:15:45 <FireFly> The schedule isn't entirely fixed since it depends on earlier games, but about then
17:15:55 <Vorpal> Right
17:16:13 <Vorpal> FireFly, I need to fix my sleep schedule for tomorrow though, so I probably won't be able to watch all of it
17:16:20 <Vorpal> :(
17:16:31 <FireFly> Aw.. oh well
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17:17:05 <Vorpal> I'll watch the VOD afterwards
17:17:15 <FireFly> Ooh, Mario Maker is up on youtube now
17:17:23 * FireFly watches
17:17:33 <Vorpal> Oh? That might be more interesting than Diablo 2 indeed
17:18:10 <FireFly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJV86j1-DuE
17:18:28 <FireFly> Yeah, the Mario Maker segment at AGDQ was great at least
17:18:33 <Vorpal> yeah I pulled it up on my tablet next to me already... Seems to be a lot of setup in it though....
17:19:44 <Vorpal> FireFly, two weird things here. All the other videos so far cut out the setup time. Also there is no pause music?
17:20:22 <Vorpal> Or I guess they don't want DMCA
17:21:58 <FireFly> I've had videos before with setup time..
17:22:13 <FireFly> does youtube allow you to change the video after upload? maybe they upload it first and cut it later on
17:22:23 <Vorpal> I have no idea
17:26:00 <FireFly> Seems to start about 22 minutes in
17:26:57 <Vorpal> FireFly, these levels are super-trolly
17:27:00 <Vorpal> :/
17:27:30 <Vorpal> FireFly, did you watch the Bethesda block? That was super-cool.
17:27:38 <Vorpal> Amazing glitches
17:28:12 <FireFly> I didn't.. I guess I should watch that after this
17:28:24 <Vorpal> FireFly, Arena - Skyrim, all of them
17:28:34 <Vorpal> And all of them are just hilarious.
17:31:34 <FireFly> re. super trolly.. well they're pro players who regularly play Kaizo-style levels, so hey
17:31:42 <Vorpal> Fair enough
17:31:55 <Vorpal> I just didn't find it fun to watch.
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17:32:23 <FireFly> though granted this first stage seems a bit over-the-top
17:32:40 <Vorpal> FireFly, I think I prefer the single-person showing off their skill style runs in general. (Though the Tetris segment was pretty cool)
17:44:03 <int-e> fun, a bitcoin block with a single transaction.
17:45:27 <int-e> (apparently they (blockchain.info) count the reward payment as a transaction)
17:49:17 <int-e> So apparently they've made it.
17:53:18 <int-e> and their software has a bug... https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000004db7eebf333b81f2529835102f7f7e86eca889287148885 lists the reward as 16.666BTC; dividing by 3 instead of 4... funny.
17:54:21 <izabera> time to exploit it and make a shitload of money
17:54:38 <int-e> I suspect it's just the website.
17:54:56 <izabera> then it's time to... exploit it and make a little amount of money?
17:55:20 <int-e> I thought it was time to notice it and mock the programmer
17:55:45 <izabera> that's why you're poor, you're not in the right mindset
17:56:14 <gamemanj> "network propagation" is messed up
17:56:28 <gamemanj> it's at the zero point
17:56:30 <int-e> izabera: you may be right
17:57:47 <int-e> izabera: anyway, here's what I say: That programmer must have saved their company millions of CPU cycles!
17:58:02 <izabera> then it's on purpose!
17:58:04 <izabera> those bastards
17:59:25 <Vorpal> Something broken with bitcoin again?
18:00:27 <int-e> okay, somebody else tries to get some laughs out of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4s14gu/no_blockchaininfo_its_not_12_14_16/
18:00:57 <int-e> Vorpal: nope, everything is going as designed... reward is halving every 210k blocks, and they just made it to 420k.
18:01:57 <int-e> but the last time bitcoins were virtually worthless, so this time is a bit more interesting. impossible to predict though.
18:07:16 <int-e> The next difficulty adjustment is 1344 blocks away. *hmm*
18:07:24 <Vorpal> Ah
18:07:58 <Vorpal> int-e, so how many days?
18:08:00 <Vorpal> Approx
18:08:11 <int-e> well, normally 144 blocks per day
18:08:57 <Vorpal> So within weeks then
18:09:32 <int-e> but to with the reward halfed they may want to drop the difficulty in half which means they'd have to drag the ~10 days out to ~25?
18:10:12 <int-e> but that would require collusion... it's all so utterly unpredictable.
18:10:20 <Vorpal> Um what?
18:10:59 <Vorpal> Oh I see what you mean
18:11:34 <int-e> (the 25 number comes from the fact that the difficulty will be based on 2016 blocks, 1/3 of which have already been mined)
18:21:56 <izabera> best use of pov ray so far https://imgur.com/gallery/HtZAWdi
18:23:32 <gamemanj> so, basically, we live on discworld
18:24:43 <int-e> the moment of ridicule is over too...
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18:45:51 <FireFly> Nice, pokemon red race
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20:17:36 <Sgeo> I still haven't congratulated him :(
20:18:46 <shachaf> You did.
20:18:51 <shachaf> He just wasn't around at the time.
20:31:52 <\oren\> the ttf format for contours is so annoying
20:32:52 <\oren\> I'm trying to make a program for converting bdf to ttf but it is annoying me
20:36:38 <\oren\> basically, you have an array of x coordinates, an array of y coordinates, and an array of flags.
20:38:06 <\oren\> the array of flags has one entry for each point, which determines whther the x and y coordinates are each 16 bit or 8 bit. which means that the x coordinates can't be indexed, and neither can the y coordinates, without iterating through the falgs?
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20:45:16 <gamemanj> the solution, presumably, is "why are you trying to iterate through the flags"
20:45:25 <gamemanj> you only need to write a file, not read it
20:45:53 <gamemanj> (trying to read a font file is insanity anyway because, well, you also have to deal with so much internationalization madness)
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21:04:43 <\oren\> gamemanj: what internationalization?
21:05:07 <gamemanj> actually arranging the letters that you read from the font into something useful?
21:05:27 <\oren\> oh that
21:05:56 <\oren\> I have a bunch of prgrams already that manipulate ttf files, but none thta actually read or write contour data yet
21:06:39 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm is made by reading the character map data from the ttf file
21:08:13 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfinvread.htm
21:11:43 <quintopia> almost time for tasblock!
21:11:53 <ais523> I hope you enjoy it!
21:12:07 <ais523> as usual, I have some idea of what's coming, and yet it's going to impress me /anyway/
21:13:04 <quintopia> i am purposely keeping myself in the dark regarding specifics
21:13:19 <shachaf> What is tasblock?
21:13:59 <ais523> shachaf: SGDQ is a yearly speedrunning showcase for charity (there's two a year, the other is called AGDQ); tasblock is a section dedicated to games being spedrun via robots/programmable controllrs
21:16:01 <quintopia> is speedrun not already a past participle?
21:17:15 <quintopia> im surprised the room isnt more full. it was packed for the smm race
21:19:55 <fizzie> Ooh, Super Mario Land 2.
21:19:59 <fizzie> I played a lot of that.
21:26:50 <quintopia> i didnt but it looks cool. is wario the boss?
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21:28:43 <fizzie> Yes.
21:30:03 <fizzie> Wonder if my saves are still there; I don't know what sort of non-volatile storage Game Boy carts have.
21:30:58 <\oren\> they have battery-powered RAM I thing
21:31:18 <\oren\> so eventually the battery runs out and you have to replace it
21:32:05 <fizzie> I would guess my save's probably some 20 years old now.
21:32:34 <ais523> quintopia: that's the game that invented wario
21:34:56 <zzo38> You can back up the save file in your computer if you have the proper equipment to do so, so that if the battery is dead, you can still restore the save game file. (If you back up the ROM data too, then you can also play the game on your computer too.)
21:40:26 <\oren\> Well I have now sucessfully automated the process of finding stray pixels
21:44:27 <zzo38> I would have want to have a separate file format for glyphs and for metrics, so that you can use the proper glyph format depending on the device while common metrics formats can be in use. This format for metrics that I think of it assumes 32-bit characters, with no other assumptions made about the character set (such as which ones are control characters and so on). Any features relevant to typesetting other than the glyphs themself are programmed
21:44:56 <\oren\> still unalbe to generate a ttf file worth a damn but hey, at least this is prgress
21:47:38 <zzo38> (Such as: ligatures, kerning, mapping multiple codepoints to one glyph, multiple glyphs to one codepoint, character spacing, hanging punctuation, word spacing, text direction, variation selectors, controls to override text direction and other things, boundary characters, metadata, etc)
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21:53:52 <Vorpal> fizzie, btw, the TAS segment is ongoing now
21:55:03 <fizzie> Yes, I noticed.
21:55:28 <Vorpal> fizzie, okay, just thought since you said you forgot about SGDQ previously
21:56:02 <quintopia> ais523: was it everything you hoped it would be
21:56:15 <ais523> quintopia: the block hasn't finished much yet
21:56:27 <fizzie> Yeah, and I also forgot about the TASBot block during the last few hours -- fortunately someone said something.
21:56:29 <ais523> SML2 was a bit more elaborate than I expected, that was fun to see
21:56:42 <ais523> VVVVVV was pretty much what I expected and I was commentating it on the official IRC channel (#sdamarathon on Quakenet)
21:56:54 <Vorpal> ais523, I like the "console verification" on PC
21:57:04 <ais523> the really fun stuff should be later in the block though :-)
21:57:10 <Vorpal> True
21:57:31 <Vorpal> And seeing VVVVVV was really cool. I tried playing that some years ago. It is quite difficult even non-speedrunning
21:57:35 <Vorpal> I never finished the game
21:57:37 <quintopia> theres only one more run on the schddule
21:57:42 <ais523> I've completed it it 100%, although not in no deaths mode
21:57:48 <ais523> I've got through the first level in no deaths mode though before now
21:58:05 <quintopia> Vorpal: ive been told the difficulty is way overhyped
21:58:06 <Vorpal> quintopia, ? I know there was some donation incentives related to TAS met
21:58:12 <fizzie> I've finished VVVVVV in the "so many deaths" mode.
21:58:23 <fizzie> That's the one where you keep dying over and over again.
21:58:27 <quintopia> Vorpal: they didnt put them on the schedule
21:58:33 <Vorpal> quintopia, depends on how good your timing skills are I guess
21:58:33 <gamemanj> fizzie: did this involve the use of Hourglass?
21:58:42 <Vorpal> quintopia, I have terrible timing skills.
21:58:56 <ais523> gamemanj: yes
21:58:57 <fizzie> Also I'm just the worst in Gravitron.
21:59:02 <ais523> err, TASbot, at least
21:59:03 <Vorpal> I mostly play turn based games thus. I'm reasonable at those generally
21:59:07 <ais523> fizzie: I suck at Gravitron too :-(
21:59:16 <quintopia> i think two of the runs weve already seen were incentives i think
21:59:30 <ais523> quintopia: the glitched-any% runs were incentives
21:59:38 <ais523> they make good incentives because they're so short they don't disturb the schedule much
22:00:02 <quintopia> ya. tends to be how incentives work
22:00:06 <fizzie> Cropping the screen took longer than the run.
22:00:28 <ais523> fizzie: that reminds me of my NetHack fastest death run, it had already game-overed before the intro subtitles had finished
22:00:31 <Vorpal> ais523, pretty sure there was some incentive that was longer earlier though
22:00:37 <quintopia> nah. they had it cropped by the time the credits came
22:00:44 <ais523> so instead of "this is a tool-assisted speedrun" the official encode was written in the past tense
22:01:08 <pikhq> That's pretty grand.
22:01:25 <Vorpal> ais523, what is the speed run record for nethack? (either TAS or real)
22:01:29 <Vorpal> any%
22:01:42 <quintopia> i didnt know there was a fastest death category...
22:01:54 <ais523> quintopia: there isn't, it got rejected; it was an april 1 joke
22:01:55 <pikhq> I think ais523 invented it.
22:02:05 <quintopia> theres ROBberry pi!
22:02:30 <ais523> Vorpal: in terms of clock time, 1:03; in terms of turncount, 2130 with bones stuffing, 2251 no bones
22:02:50 <quintopia> i love the lights in the nes controllers
22:02:57 <ais523> that's new this year
22:03:01 <Vorpal> ais523, bone stuffing is preparing an advantageous bone file?
22:03:02 <ais523> the NES visualisation boards, that is
22:03:03 <quintopia> lel "windows total control"
22:03:04 <ais523> Vorpal: yes
22:03:19 <ais523> intentionally gathering all the resources you need, suiciding the character, and hoping to find the bones with the next one
22:03:44 <Vorpal> ais523, hm, is the gathering of resources included in the run as well then?
22:03:49 <ais523> no
22:03:53 <Vorpal> Hm
22:03:56 <ais523> that's why it's a separate category, it's more of a newgame+
22:04:20 <Vorpal> Anyway, 1:03, that would be doable as a segment in a future *GDQ
22:04:26 <gamemanj> in which case, why not just write the bones file manually
22:04:38 <ais523> Vorpal: it relied on a lot of luck
22:04:51 <ais523> top players don't require luck to win sort-of quickly, but the fastest runs require a ton of luck just ot go fast
22:04:54 <ais523> *to go fast
22:05:00 <Vorpal> ais523, so what is an average speed run?
22:05:02 <ais523> I'd say 3:00 would be a good estimate for a GDQ
22:05:09 <Vorpal> Ah
22:05:11 <Vorpal> A bit too much
22:05:19 <ais523> and ofc it's crazy risky
22:05:41 <Vorpal> Can you glitch nethack though? Or is it too robust?
22:05:49 <fizzie> They have a 4:05 estimate for the Final Fantasy VI coming up.
22:05:53 <quintopia> i love the dude who is drumming all the smb themes on his leg
22:06:03 <gamemanj> it's had years and years of development... I wouldn't doubt it's robust...
22:06:11 <gamemanj> then again, you could say that of many buggy things
22:06:36 <Vorpal> fizzie, a bit more well known of a game though
22:06:51 <ais523> Vorpal: it can be glitched
22:07:03 <ais523> there's a dangling pointer glitch that's possible very early
22:07:20 <Vorpal> That sounds crashy rather than go-fast
22:07:24 <ais523> and if you only want a crash, start with a Healer or Tourist, and as soon as the game starts, type d4294967296$d4294967296$ (requires a 32-bit computer)
22:07:27 <ais523> and it divides by zero
22:07:42 <Vorpal> ais523, so a glitched any% run might be slightly faster?
22:07:46 <gamemanj> what next, a buffer overflow?
22:07:52 <ais523> Vorpal: the dangling pointer glitch basically lets you edit memory arbitrarily
22:07:55 <pikhq> Hmm. Does a glitch count for a TAS if the TASer is also a developer of the game and intentionally put the glitch in? :P
22:07:57 <gamemanj> ...you have got to be kidding me
22:08:03 <ais523> gamemanj: I can do that too, but haven't found a way to exploit it into anything other than a crash yet
22:08:43 <gamemanj> pikhq: *1 hour ago, commit by ais523: preparations* diff: if (name[0] == '@') win_game();
22:08:49 <quintopia> i hope the runs end at the same time
22:08:59 <ais523> gamemanj: I wasn't on the devteam when I was working on this stuff
22:09:08 <ais523> and in fact, TASes are done on 3.4.3 for this reason
22:09:12 <Vorpal> ais523, what on earth are those "runner" names now?
22:09:13 <pikhq> quintopia: If it's the set of runs I'm thinking of, they're pretty close.
22:09:19 <gamemanj> ah
22:09:36 <ais523> Vorpal: no idea :-D
22:09:43 <Vorpal> fair enough
22:09:54 <quintopia> oh. four runs at once....
22:09:59 <quintopia> i thought 3
22:10:14 <Vorpal> Also what is "lost levels"?
22:10:36 <pikhq> Vorpal: The game releases as "Super Mario Bros 2" in Japan.
22:10:42 <pikhq> *released
22:11:01 <Vorpal> Ah
22:12:58 <Vorpal> hm it doesn't *look* like the same inputs for all of them. Or they are possibly not perfectly in sync?
22:13:32 <ais523> they're desynced a little I think
22:13:45 <ais523> you can see that when one game goes to the left, the others all have to do that too to compensate
22:14:07 <Vorpal> Think it is the lost levels one that is desynced
22:14:19 <ais523> that makes sense, it's on a famicom
22:14:24 <ais523> which may have a different framerate
22:14:35 <Vorpal> Aah. Right
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22:15:25 <Vorpal> Yeah other ones are desynced too
22:17:05 <Vorpal> ais523, also the routing for this must have been a nightmare. And require a very special kind of mind.
22:18:44 <gamemanj> "routing"? also, how exactly are they trying to "sync" multiple games...?
22:18:50 <ais523> gamemanj: same inputs for every game
22:18:58 <gamemanj> ...wait, what?
22:19:03 <ais523> and "routing" = working out which levels you'll play and which routes you'll use through them
22:19:04 <Vorpal> gamemanj, yes
22:19:15 <pikhq> The Famicom *ought* to have the same framerate, at least nominally...
22:19:27 <gamemanj> just... what?
22:19:41 <fizzie> They said the lost levels took longer to load than the rest.
22:19:47 <ais523> gamemanj: it's not as hard as it seems if you ever try it on a couple of games yourself
22:20:00 <fizzie> (While explaining the desync thing a moment ago.)
22:20:08 <Vorpal> ais523, although this time with routing I would also include figuring out when to press left so it doesn't mess up the other games. Or I don't know a better way to describe it anyway
22:20:17 <pikhq> Oh *right*, SMB2 was a Famicom Disk System game.
22:20:37 <ais523> they didn't advertise that
22:20:42 <ais523> because they weren't sure they'd be able to find a working Famicom
22:20:44 <ais523> but SGDQ delivered
22:20:52 <Vorpal> Heh
22:21:01 <pikhq> Hrm, it's not that hard to obtain one.
22:21:04 <Vorpal> ais523, EU had Famicom rather than NES too right?
22:21:05 <quintopia> time for the race
22:21:06 <pikhq> A working FDS is hard though.
22:21:14 <ais523> Vorpal: no idea, I wasn't paying attention to games back then
22:21:19 <Vorpal> Ah
22:21:22 <pikhq> Vorpal: No, EU had two NES releases.
22:21:27 <Vorpal> pikhq, oh?
22:21:27 <gamemanj> so, they found a working Famicom, did something rather butcher-y to it to make it accept the same inputs as a bunch of NESes at the same time...
22:21:28 <quintopia> by disk...means floppy?
22:21:30 <gamemanj> and then what?
22:21:36 <pikhq> quintopia: Yes.
22:21:55 <pikhq> gamemanj: It's not that hard -- the Famicom is electrically nearly identical to an NES.
22:22:13 <gamemanj> yes, but the poor thing...
22:22:27 <Vorpal> pikhq, What about the controller connector? Does it differ?
22:22:31 <ais523> it's not really butchery, they just plugged the controller in through the controller port
22:22:32 <quintopia> hmm they used an emulator for sml2...how did they do that legally?
22:22:48 <Vorpal> quintopia, the gameboy one? They explained that
22:22:49 <pikhq> It does differ for the original Famicom, but not for the AV Famicom.
22:22:57 <Vorpal> That sadly they did not manage to get the hardware working
22:23:02 <ais523> if you own the cartridge and dump it yourself, it's probably legal in the US at least, although I'm not sure though
22:23:29 <pikhq> Vorpal: There was a "Mattel version" and "NES version" of the NES released in Europe. Games for one were not compatible with games for the other.
22:23:39 <pikhq> ais523: It would be.
22:23:46 <Vorpal> quintopia, also all these runs were likely run on simulators first.
22:24:09 <Vorpal> pikhq, how stupid. What was the difference?
22:24:11 <pikhq> ais523: Backup copies of software are *explicitly* named as a legal process in US copyright law.
22:24:30 <quintopia> Vorpal: nintendo only cares about videos of emulated games...
22:24:31 <pikhq> Vorpal: Lockout chips and distributer.
22:24:32 <ais523> ooh, I forgot it'd count as a backup
22:25:28 <Vorpal> Wow
22:25:32 <Vorpal> What just happened
22:26:28 <pikhq> Vorpal: In most of Europe Nintendo was the distributor, in the UK, Italy and Australia Mattel was *initially*, but they basically fucked around and didn't bother doing much with it so Nintendo took over as a distributer.
22:26:51 <pikhq> The "NES Version" was distributed by Nintendo.
22:26:51 <Vorpal> Huh
22:26:55 <quintopia> time for the race
22:27:37 <Vorpal> quintopia, well "race"
22:28:04 <quintopia> okay this is definitely illegal
22:28:22 <quintopia> cue the takedown notices
22:28:44 <Vorpal> quintopia, what?
22:29:33 <gamemanj> someone start recording!
22:34:05 <quintopia> wooo kill the animals
22:34:33 <Vorpal> ais523, really? That was it for TAS? How boring
22:34:53 <ais523> Vorpal: you don't think instantly completing SMB3 is interesting?
22:35:08 <Vorpal> ais523, sure, but I think "pokemon plays twitch" was cooler
22:35:12 <ais523> the crazy stuff with editing new games into existing games is reserved for the winter marathons
22:35:15 <Vorpal> As was mario maker in whatever other mario it was
22:35:23 <ais523> because it takes so much work it can only be done once a year
22:35:25 <Vorpal> Ah
22:35:33 <quintopia> its not as interesting as the brain age tas or the pokemon plays twitch tas but its pretty cool
22:35:35 <Vorpal> So that is in January right?
22:35:41 <ais523> Vorpal: right
22:35:59 <Vorpal> quintopia, oh yeah that brain age one too
22:36:27 <quintopia> everyone leaves...
22:37:00 <quintopia> no love for ff6. (i never finished it myself)
22:37:02 <Vorpal> pretty much
22:37:14 <Vorpal> quintopia, I think it is pretty good. But it is not TAS :P
22:37:17 <Vorpal> Also is it a race?
22:37:41 <Vorpal> I prefer single runs to races
22:38:27 <quintopia> any% glitch run i think
22:38:39 <Vorpal> sounds good, as long as it isn't a race
22:38:52 <quintopia> nah. its 4h tho.
22:39:06 <Vorpal> well, I'll go to sleep before the end of it
22:39:17 <quintopia> ill probs skip it, come back for the metroid race
22:42:59 <Vorpal> ais523, I would love seeing the TASbot going for more modern games. Why not hook up to a N64 controller or such
22:43:35 <Vorpal> Or gamecube
22:43:41 <Vorpal> Newer than that might be harder
22:44:00 <ais523> Vorpal: it's done Mario Kart 64 in the past
22:44:08 <ais523> might want to try finding that on youtube
22:44:28 <Vorpal> yeah sounds interesting
22:50:26 <int-e> You must be kidding me... xine_setenv("DVDCSS_RAW_DEVICE", "", 1); ... no wonder it's trying to open an empty file.
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22:58:18 <int-e> though I guess it is the semantics of that setenv that were changed at some point.
23:19:38 <int-e> actually it's libdvdcss that changed.
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00:27:34 <\oren\> hellꙫrjan!
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00:33:31 <\oren\> 今boilyは
00:38:16 <boily> 안녀랜하심니카!
00:42:49 <\oren\> ok I see the "eoraen" in there
00:43:22 <\oren\> (after looking up a chart)
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00:48:01 <oerjan> hellꙫren
00:48:39 <oerjan> boheily
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00:54:30 <boily> բարի իրիգըռյա՛ն:
00:54:48 <boily> `unidecode ꙫ
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00:54:54 <HackEgo> ​[U+A66B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER BINOCULAR O]
00:55:39 <boily> `unidecode ⚇
00:55:41 <HackEgo> ​[U+2687 WHITE CIRCLE WITH TWO DOTS]
00:56:32 <oerjan> Շնորհակալություն Աստծուն, Google թարգմանել
00:57:42 <Shubshub> Hey
00:57:48 <boily> `relcome Shubshub
00:57:56 <Shubshub> I'm not new :P
00:58:02 <boily> aaaargh!
00:58:06 <HackEgo> Shubshub: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
00:58:14 <oerjan> a rare Shubshub sighting
00:58:18 <boily> Shellobshellob it is then!
00:58:20 <Shubshub> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gopher
00:58:22 <Shubshub> Thats mine
00:58:28 <oerjan> boily: just pretend it means rare welcome hth
00:58:56 <boily> OKAY
00:59:01 <Shubshub> I'm gonna do some code golf
00:59:29 * oerjan sends boily an invoice for an OKAY license
01:08:59 <shachaf> oerjan: how much
01:10:11 <oerjan> that's a trade secret hth
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01:14:02 <shachaf> OKAY
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01:28:27 <Shubshub> Attempting to write a new esolang :D
01:59:20 <\oren\> what kind?
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02:04:21 <boily> Shubshub: is it going to be minimal? line or character based? will it use [REDACTED] and with them twist the fabric of the Universe?
02:15:48 <oerjan> obviously it should use [RETRACTED] instead.
02:16:12 <Shubshub> You'll see
02:16:15 <Shubshub> Once I get it working first
02:16:28 <shachaf> oerjan: good opportunity to make a section-retraction pun
02:16:31 <shachaf> but i can't think of one
02:20:06 <oerjan> indeed, it's hard to think of an epic pun in a split moment
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02:24:00 <oerjan> why does the retraction have to be the left inverse, the opposite would have been more mnemonic
02:25:06 <shachaf> a lection and a retraction?
02:26:39 <oerjan> well a section would have been sinister
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02:26:55 <oerjan> and r* is obvious
02:27:17 <shachaf> ah, of course
02:27:36 * oerjan had to check his mnemonic for free and underlying adjoints again
02:28:28 <shachaf> oerjan: that would have been a good mnemonic
02:28:30 <oerjan> it's also latin-based
02:28:37 <shachaf> but reality detracts from it
02:28:48 <oerjan> *sinister trombone*
02:28:59 <shachaf> What's your menmonic for free and underlying?
02:29:06 <oerjan> "liberty" hth
02:29:34 <oerjan> hah i spent so long typing that word correctly and then you botched it :P
02:29:36 <shachaf> You can always go with 12:42 <byorgey> tswett: often a forgetful functor is called 'U'; if the free functor is called F then it reads like F -| U which in English sounds like a crude insult. "You can't remember which way around a free-forgetful adjunction goes? Well, F -| U !"
02:29:54 <oerjan> O KAY
02:30:03 <alercah> shachaf: do you ever try to explain monads using join rather than bind?
02:30:15 <shachaf> alercah: Only to myself.
02:30:23 <alercah> I wonder if it would be helpful
02:30:30 <shachaf> alercah: I used to not think it was a good approach, but then thinking about Applicative for a while made me think it would be good.
02:30:54 <shachaf> You want to write your do-expressions using Applicative as much as possible, and only using join where you're forced to.
02:31:08 <shachaf> E.g. join (f <$> x <*> y <*> z)
02:31:12 <alercah> yeah
02:31:19 <shachaf> Since join is expensive and special.
02:31:19 <oerjan> shachaf: ApplicativeDo hth
02:31:27 <shachaf> You can think of it as a "choke point" or something.
02:31:34 <ais523> @djinn forall a.a
02:31:34 <lambdabot> -- f cannot be realized.
02:31:36 <shachaf> oerjan: I know, I was a proponent of ApplicativeDo years before it was written.
02:31:42 <alercah> it's the "special" that really gets me there
02:31:44 <oerjan> sweet
02:32:02 <shachaf> copumpkin proposed it in #haskell originally, if I remember correctly.
02:32:05 <shachaf> hi copumpkin
02:32:17 <shachaf> And then I proposed a jammed up version that doesn't use tuples.
02:32:22 <shachaf> I don't know how it actually gets translated...
02:32:38 <alercah> because maybe it would be easier to explain the magicness of IO with join
02:32:44 <oerjan> me neither but i think they wrote a paper about it
02:33:12 <shachaf> `? ørjan
02:33:19 <oerjan> i didn't hth
02:33:28 <shachaf> sounds like we know who the paper expert here is
02:33:51 <alercah> is it noah bennett
02:33:59 <HackEgo> ​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
02:34:12 <shachaf> Should I write up my ideas as papers rather than blabbering in IRC?
02:34:17 <shachaf> How does one write papers, anyway?
02:34:19 <oerjan> @djinn forall a. a -> a
02:34:19 <lambdabot> f a = a
02:34:25 <shachaf> I've had some good ideas occasionally.
02:34:25 <oerjan> huh it does support forall
02:34:32 <ais523> oerjan: I was hoping it'd answer undefined
02:34:37 <shachaf> It supports forall, but only in a boring way.
02:34:39 <ais523> which I believe is the only term with that type
02:34:43 <ais523> but maybe it considers it cheating
02:34:48 <shachaf> ais523: That's the one thing I'd hope that djinn wouldn't answer. hht
02:34:52 <shachaf> hth
02:35:01 <shachaf> i guess my coin flipped badly
02:35:19 <shachaf> Actually there are many things I'd hope that it wouldn't answer. Like f = f
02:36:15 <oerjan> shachaf: with LaTeX hth
02:36:48 <oerjan> ais523: djinn will not give answers containing bottoms, afaik
02:36:50 <shachaf> ais523: Djinn is a theorem prover for a consistent logic.
02:36:58 <shachaf> i,i it can even generate a proof of that fact
02:37:11 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
02:38:46 <oerjan> shachaf: somewhere, there's a bullet with your gödel number on it hth
02:39:04 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
02:39:15 <oerjan> it's a pretty big bullet, i guess.
02:40:18 <oerjan> food ->
02:40:52 <shachaf> oerjan: perhaps https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/DexterAndSinister_HeraldicEscutcheon.png can help with your mnemonic hth
02:41:12 <shachaf> s is on the right
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02:49:21 <Shubshub> http://prntscr.com/bqyvw4 Sneak Peek :D
02:56:40 <oerjan> shachaf: i assume that's viewed from the shield carrier, then.
02:57:08 <shachaf> oerjan: the point is, just think of that picture and your mnemonic will be fine
02:57:19 <oerjan> oKaY
02:57:21 <shachaf> alternatively all your mnemonics will be permanently messed up
02:57:36 <shachaf> `` rgrep sinister wisdom
02:57:59 <HackEgo> No output.
02:58:18 <shachaf> also do you recommend the book _Bend Sinister_ twh
02:59:37 <oerjan> no hth
02:59:53 <oerjan> dystopias is so last century
03:00:33 <shachaf> what book do you recommend instead
03:02:07 <oerjan> winnie the pooh hth
03:02:19 <shachaf> already read it hth
03:02:25 <oerjan> ah.
03:02:42 <shachaf> also here's your mnemonic: retractions are free
03:03:13 <oerjan> eek
03:03:13 <shachaf> sections are forgetful
03:03:17 <shachaf> which is why you need a retraction
03:03:34 <shachaf> if you don't like that one, how about: retractions are forgetful, and sections are cofree
03:04:11 <shachaf> oerjan: also, if you compose them in the opposite order -- s . r -- you get an idempotent
03:04:19 <shachaf> and it's the idempotent which is split
03:04:20 <oerjan> `learn Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists.
03:04:28 <HackEgo> Learned 'cafreine': Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists.
03:04:40 <shachaf> so it's perfectly legitimate to consider the retraction to be on the right and the section on the left
03:04:42 <myname> wat
03:05:49 <shachaf> also a retraction has a right inverse
03:05:53 <oerjan> how is a retraction free, anyway
03:06:01 <shachaf> and a section has a sinister inverse
03:06:04 <shachaf> well, it's a left adjoint
03:06:10 <shachaf> in a boring way
03:06:20 <oerjan> myname: problem?
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03:07:11 <oerjan> . o O ( did trollface get into unicode yet? )
03:07:17 <oerjan> `unicode TROLLFACE
03:07:35 <HackEgo> No output.
03:07:39 <oerjan> `unicode TROLL
03:07:47 <HackEgo> U+1F68E TROLLEYBUS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 9a 8e UTF-16BE: d83dde8e Decimal: &#128654; \ 🚎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F6D2 SHOPPING TROLLEY \ UTF-8: f0 9f 9b 92 UTF-16BE: d83dded2 Decimal: &#128722; \ 🛒 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
03:08:11 <shachaf> it's probably in the norwegian section hth
03:08:24 <shachaf> i retract that statement
03:08:36 <oerjan> wait, does this mean every idempotent is also a monad in a boring way
03:09:42 <oerjan> `` unicode TROLL | grep -i face
03:09:48 <HackEgo> No output.
03:10:58 <oerjan> ...probably.
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03:14:49 <shachaf> oerjan: hmm, i was thinking the answer was yes, but maybe there's something wrong with my reasoning
03:15:20 <shachaf> Since in a discrete category I imagine the only monad is the identity monad.
03:15:25 <oerjan> hm did my stackoverflow answer get linked somewhere?
03:15:28 <shachaf> So what category was I even talking about?
03:15:36 <shachaf> Which one?
03:15:40 <shachaf> stackoverfloerjan
03:15:56 <oerjan> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32931549/to-what-extent-are-applicative-monad-instances-uniquely-determined/32932140#32932140
03:16:15 <oerjan> i just got a bunch of new votes on it
03:16:24 <shachaf> your stack overfloweth
03:19:08 <zzo38> The number of monads on a category with more than one object is at least one more than the number of final objects of that category.
03:19:14 <shachaf> oerjan: The same questioner asked a duplicate of the same question, and linked to the previous one.
03:19:18 <shachaf> http://stackoverflow.com/users/1333025/petr-pudl%C3%A1k
03:19:27 <shachaf> you can find it in the google cache if you know what search term to use
03:19:42 <oerjan> oh
03:20:12 <shachaf> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=cache:stackoverflow.com/questions/38272545/are-monad-instances-uniquely-determined-by-their-applicative-instances
03:20:43 <shachaf> I guess the questioner read your addendum and deleted the question or something.
03:20:44 <oerjan> i found it from that pudlak link anyway.
03:21:45 <oerjan> duplicates aren't deleted, although this particular one might be so close it just as well might be
03:21:48 <shachaf> oerjan: do you feel that it's unfair that your answer was voted higher than pigworker's fancy dependent type answer
03:22:04 <shachaf> That duplicate seems to have been turned into a redirect.
03:22:05 <oerjan> shachaf: not really.
03:22:09 <shachaf> Which is as good as deleting.
03:22:44 <oerjan> shachaf: possibly you don't have enough rep to see the original.
03:22:55 <shachaf> Well, I'm not even logged in
03:22:56 <oerjan> (neener neener)
03:23:49 <shachaf> oerjan: I logged in and now I can see the duplicate question.
03:23:55 <shachaf> Are you pleased with yourself?
03:24:48 <oerjan> shachaf: i expect people with slightly less than pigworker's brain (me included) will find my answer more enlightening to start with.
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03:25:06 <shachaf> Oh, pigworker is doing the container thing.
03:25:13 <shachaf> As in http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~psztxa/publ/tlca03.pdf
03:25:42 <oerjan> i said ME INCLUDED, thx
03:25:43 <shachaf> I was all about those things a while ago.
03:26:03 <oerjan> yeah you were a functor pro
03:26:16 <shachaf> pigworker is too good
03:26:54 <shachaf> "Pledge: I will stop doing edits to fix obvious bugs in other people's answers. They're never accepted and I just lose my temper. (Sorry about that last one.)"
03:26:58 <shachaf> look who's retired
03:27:14 <oerjan> <shachaf> Are you pleased with yourself? <-- . o O ( darn, missed )
03:27:54 <shachaf> ?
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03:28:11 <oerjan> shachaf: that was long before i retired. also my stackoverflow retirement could in theory be temporary. if i ever catch up with /r/haskell
03:28:36 <oerjan> and if Haskell doesn't implode before i do it.
03:28:38 <shachaf> why would you want to catch up with /r/haskell
03:28:46 <shachaf> i haven't even looked at it in months
03:28:50 <shachaf> i assume it's gone down the drain
03:28:54 <shachaf> just like everything in the world
03:29:08 <shachaf> things were all better in the good old days, when there was no one on my lawn
03:29:10 <oerjan> well i heard rumors it had.
03:29:44 <oerjan> then i continued catching up anyway.
03:31:21 <oerjan> i do see traces of trolls, mostly deleted.
03:31:47 <oerjan> and of course i only read a small fraction.
03:32:43 <oerjan> i think i'm getting to the point where i should start seeing if the rumors are overblown or not.
03:33:12 <oerjan> (aka mid May)
03:33:57 <shachaf> @google neverhood drain
03:33:58 <lambdabot> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4MARAsx1Vo
03:34:30 <shachaf> just like that
03:34:56 <shachaf> maybe you should join #haskell if you want evidence hth
03:39:24 <oerjan> oh i have no doubt _some_ haskell fora have gone down the drain. i've heard rumors bout twitter...
03:39:35 <oerjan> well, *read
03:39:44 <oerjan> *+a
03:41:02 <shachaf> @wn bout
03:41:04 <lambdabot> *** "bout" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
03:41:04 <lambdabot> bout
03:41:04 <lambdabot> n 1: (sports) a division during which one team is on the
03:41:04 <lambdabot> offensive [syn: {turn}, {bout}, {round}]
03:41:04 <lambdabot> 2: a period of illness; "a bout of fever"; "a bout of
03:41:06 <lambdabot> [5 @more lines]
03:41:11 <shachaf> @more
03:41:11 <lambdabot> depression"
03:41:11 <lambdabot> 3: a contest or fight (especially between boxers or wrestlers)
03:41:12 <lambdabot> 4: an occasion for excessive eating or drinking; "they went on a
03:41:14 <lambdabot> bust that lasted three days" [syn: {bust}, {tear}, {binge},
03:41:16 <lambdabot> {bout}]
03:41:30 <shachaf> None of those are the meaning of "bout" I know.
03:41:34 <shachaf> I guess 2 is the closest.
03:41:49 <oerjan> it's a bout of right
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04:18:37 <Shubshub> Is the bot that interprets esolangs still in this chan?
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04:25:31 <oerjan> no, but HackEgo has a port of most of it
04:25:51 <oerjan> `! unlambda ``.H.ii
04:25:53 <HackEgo> Hi
04:26:36 <oerjan> oh and fungot does brainfuck and underload, of course
04:26:36 <fungot> oerjan: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! filthy medal! i won't forget this!
04:26:53 <oerjan> fungot: i don't think i generally do, no
04:26:53 <fungot> oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! clear, too! ayla have fun! i heard you were to be executed, dear!
04:27:09 <shachaf> @ul ``.H.ii
04:27:09 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: url pl
04:27:14 <oerjan> ^ul (Hi)S
04:27:14 <fungot> Hi
04:27:14 <shachaf> help
04:27:24 <shachaf> didn't lambdabot have unlmabda at one point
04:27:26 <shachaf> as written by oerjan
04:27:31 <oerjan> @unlambda ``.H.ii
04:27:31 <lambdabot> Hi
04:27:35 <shachaf> ah
04:27:38 <shachaf> too easy
04:27:59 <shachaf> @unlamba `.øi
04:27:59 <lambdabot> unlambda: Unknown operator '\184'
04:28:33 <oerjan> i don't think it's utf-8 clean.
04:29:03 <oerjan> which was a good thing for my self-interpreter...
04:29:25 <shachaf> lambdabot has a Self interpreter too?
04:29:47 <oerjan> that pun was also too easy hth
04:30:22 <shachaf> it's ok, i have two swats in my scrollback
04:30:30 <\oren\> but does it have a c interpreter?
04:30:31 <shachaf> they'll keep me going
04:30:43 <oerjan> good, good
04:31:05 <oerjan> `! c printf("Hi!\n");
04:31:06 <shachaf> \oren\: do you have any exciting computer science for me today
04:31:33 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
04:31:37 <oerjan> *sigh*
04:32:00 <oerjan> i guess that feature was removed.
04:32:08 <oerjan> `cc printf("Hi!\n");
04:32:09 <\oren\> shachaf: not really, trying, possibly in vain, to generate a ttf that windows thinks is valid
04:32:10 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>:1:1: error: missing terminating " character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
04:32:20 <oerjan> `cc printf("Hi!\\n");
04:32:23 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>:1:1: error: missing terminating " character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
04:32:28 <oerjan> gah
04:32:47 <oerjan> i don't think that one has been very well written.
04:32:51 <oerjan> `cat bin/cc
04:32:53 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" | sed 's/\\/\n/g' | gcc -w -Wfatal-errors -std=c11 -O2 -x c - -o /tmp/a.out && /tmp/a.out
04:33:24 <oerjan> oh hm
04:33:44 <oerjan> ...it replaces \ by \n?
04:33:47 <oerjan> sheesh
04:33:52 <oerjan> `cat bin/c
04:33:52 <HackEgo> cat: bin/c: No such file or directory
04:34:10 <pikhq> I think it's intending to replace "\\" by '\n'.
04:34:13 <oerjan> there may have been yet another variant.
04:34:36 <oerjan> pikhq: yes. that still doesn't sound like a good idea.
04:34:59 <pikhq> `cc int puts(const char*);int main(){puts("Hello, world!");}
04:35:07 <HackEgo> Hello, world!
04:35:21 <oerjan> pikhq: the point is you cannot get an actual \ in there...
04:35:34 <oerjan> which is rather bad for c.
04:35:42 <\oren\> `` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts("hello\n")}"; /tmp/a.out
04:35:49 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>: In function ‘main’: \ <stdin>:1:17: error: ‘hellon’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ <stdin>:1:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ <stdin>:1:24: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory
04:35:59 <\oren\> `` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts("hello\\n")}"; /tmp/a.out
04:36:01 <shachaf> it should be s/ \\\\ /\n/, obviously.
04:36:04 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>: In function ‘main’: \ <stdin>:1:1: error: stray ‘\’ in program \ <stdin>:1:17: error: ‘hello’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ <stdin>:1:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ <stdin>:1:23: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘n’ \ <stdin>:1:25: error: expected
04:36:05 <myname> isn't there always digraphs?
04:36:15 <\oren\> `` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts(\"hello\\n\")}"; /tmp/a.out
04:36:16 <oerjan> \oren\: `! already handles that case.
04:36:21 <HackEgo> ​<stdin>: In function ‘main’: \ <stdin>:1:27: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory
04:36:33 <\oren\> `` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<"int main(){puts(\"hello\\n\");}"; /tmp/a.out
04:36:41 <oerjan> `! c int main(){puts("hello\n")}
04:36:47 <HackEgo> hello
04:36:51 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
04:36:57 <oerjan> dammit
04:37:00 <oerjan> `! c int main(){puts("hello\\n")}
04:37:02 <\oren\> which one compiled?
04:37:04 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
04:37:11 <oerjan> NOW WHAT
04:37:26 <oerjan> `! c int main(){puts("hello\\n");}
04:37:31 <HackEgo> hello
04:37:34 <\oren\> your `! c dhould print the error message
04:38:05 <oerjan> \oren\: it's ported from old EgoBot, which had a feature that made the error message useless.
04:38:19 <oerjan> (namely, it tried to compile in two different ways)
04:39:51 <\oren\> `` gcc -o/tmp/a.out -x c - <<<'int main(){puts("hello\n");}'; /tmp/a.out
04:39:55 <HackEgo> hello
04:40:31 <\oren\> `` tcc -v
04:40:33 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: tcc: command not found
04:40:37 <\oren\> bah
04:40:55 <\oren\> with tcc you can have it compile and run in one command
04:41:17 <\oren\> i like tcc
04:41:45 <\oren\> i don't like the ttc
04:42:17 <oerjan> `` cd bin; ls c*
04:42:19 <HackEgo> calc \ card-by-name \ cAt \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cd \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ ciol \ ciolf \ cmd \ cmds \ coins \ complain \ complaints \ ctof \ culprits \ culprits-c \ culprits-ng \ cwlprits
04:42:46 <oerjan> `file bin/ciol
04:42:48 <HackEgo> bin/ciol: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xac2b92fce7be4950dcebbfde3bfe866b1c1fb9aa, not stripped
04:42:59 <oerjan> i _think_ that's an esolang
04:43:08 <oerjan> `` cd bin; ls *c
04:43:10 <HackEgo> calc \ cc \ culprits-c \ ftoc \ gs2c \ luac \ qc \ rec \ runc
04:43:21 <oerjan> aha
04:43:30 <oerjan> `runc printf("Hi!\n");
04:43:33 <HackEgo> No output.
04:43:37 <oerjan> or not.
04:43:45 <oerjan> `file bin/runc
04:43:46 <HackEgo> bin/runc: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable
04:43:50 <oerjan> `cat bin/runc
04:43:51 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ t=`tempfile` \ echo -e "$@" | gcc -trigraphs -o $t -x c - 2>/dev/null && $t \ rm $t
04:44:08 <oerjan> `runc printf("Hi!\\n");
04:44:10 <HackEgo> No output.
04:44:13 <oerjan> oh.
04:44:32 <oerjan> of course that one doesn't allow single instructions either. or print errors.
04:44:58 <oerjan> so we have 3 variants, none of which do that thing.
04:45:15 <oerjan> (at least)
04:45:25 * oerjan sits back in lawn chair.
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06:37:42 <\oren\> oh geez, #KSPOfficial just became the trainspotting channel
06:38:37 <shachaf> \oren\: isn't that #trains
06:39:04 <\oren\> it is, but for some reason KSPOfficial isn't talking about KSP
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09:07:44 <Shubshub> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gopher Add an Interpreter to one of the bots :3
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09:36:44 <fizzie> Yeah, our set of C-running things is pretty deficient.
09:37:36 <fizzie> That said, `! c *does* allow for "single instructions", sometimes.
09:37:39 <fizzie> `! c printf("hello");
09:37:44 <HackEgo> hello
09:38:44 <oerjan> wat
09:38:55 <oerjan> why didn't my version work...
09:39:32 <izabera> `! printf("Hi!\n");
09:39:34 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/printf("Hi!: not found
09:39:39 <izabera> `! c printf("Hi!\n");
09:39:42 <HackEgo> Does not compile.
09:39:45 <izabera> `! c printf("Hi!\\n");
09:39:51 <HackEgo> Hi!
09:40:04 <oerjan> hm i somehow never tried that with that command.
09:41:01 <fizzie> Any objections to fetching the https://github.com/izabera/candide stuff and replacing `cc with that?
09:41:12 <izabera> no lol
09:41:22 <fizzie> `fetch https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/configure
09:41:31 <HackEgo> 2016-07-10 08:41:24 URL:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/configure [863/863] -> "configure" [1]
09:41:37 <fizzie> `fetch https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/candide-to-conf
09:41:39 <shachaf> `` type -a cc
09:41:40 <HackEgo> 2016-07-10 08:41:34 URL:https://raw.githubusercontent.com/izabera/candide/master/candide-to-conf [755/755] -> "candide-to-conf" [1]
09:41:42 <HackEgo> cc is /hackenv/bin/cc \ cc is /usr/bin/cc
09:41:50 <shachaf> cc doesn't seem like a good name hth
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09:41:56 <fizzie> It's fine.
09:42:02 <oerjan> well there's also runc
09:42:04 <fizzie> Nobody needs the actual cc for anything.
09:42:13 <fizzie> Yes, but it's called ,cc on ##c. :p
09:42:19 <oerjan> OKAY
09:42:31 <shachaf> i can think of a use for the actual cc
09:42:40 <fizzie> Then you can put in the full path.
09:42:56 <fizzie> `` bash ./configure
09:43:00 <oerjan> ok one objection: does it save files frequently
09:43:07 <HackEgo> ​/dev/fd/0:31:19: fatal error: uchar.h: No such file or directory \ compilation terminated.
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09:43:42 <fizzie> I don't think it does.
09:44:15 <fizzie> It has this fancy precompiled-headers trick that needs doing first. And also needs a bit of editing to get stuff from the command line.
09:44:15 <oerjan> well that went well.
09:44:40 <fizzie> I'll fix it. But I need to do breakfast now, apparently.
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09:47:45 <fizzie> (We've got some houseguests.)
09:51:08 <shachaf> @time fizzie
09:51:11 <lambdabot> Local time for fizzie is Sun Jul 10 09:51:08 2016
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09:57:55 <fizzie> `` mv configure candide-to-conf share/
09:57:59 <HackEgo> No output.
09:58:14 <fizzie> `` sed -i -e '/uchar.h/d' share/configure
09:58:17 <HackEgo> No output.
09:58:30 <fizzie> `` ( cd share; bash ./configure )
09:58:47 <HackEgo> No output.
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09:59:48 <izabera> good thing you did it in a subshell
09:59:50 <fizzie> `` chmod a+x share/candide
09:59:52 <izabera> think of the consequences
09:59:52 <HackEgo> No output.
10:00:57 <fizzie> `` sed -i -e /^c=/s/.*/c="$*"/ share/candide
10:01:01 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 24: unknown option to `s'
10:01:21 <fizzie> `` sed -i -e '/^c=/s/.*/c="$*"/' share/candide
10:01:25 <HackEgo> No output.
10:01:48 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide 'printf("hello");'
10:01:51 <HackEgo> gcc: error: printf("hello");: No such file or directory
10:02:27 <izabera> u breakd it
10:03:06 <izabera> `paste ./share/candide
10:03:09 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/share/candide
10:03:26 <fizzie> Oh, it also uses the args on the command line.
10:04:23 <fizzie> Would be nice to support stuff like `cc -x -y --bloo printf("meh");
10:05:19 <fizzie> But that'd involve actual work, so I think I'll just drop that.
10:05:36 <izabera> do you want to pass those options to the compiler or to the compiled program?
10:05:45 <fizzie> The compiler.
10:05:49 <fizzie> That's how ,cc works.
10:06:08 <fizzie> `` sed -i -e 's/"${@--O0}"/-O0/' share/candide
10:06:11 <HackEgo> No output.
10:06:16 <fizzie> It'd look different, anyway, so can be done later.
10:06:22 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide 'printf("hello");'
10:06:30 <HackEgo> hello
10:08:28 <shachaf> Why not build in /tmp?
10:08:45 <shachaf> All these commits seem unnecessary.
10:08:52 <shachaf> Oh well, at least it's not autoconf.
10:08:59 <shachaf> By /tmp I mean tmp/.
10:09:00 <fizzie> I think you mean /hackenv/tmp.
10:09:02 <fizzie> Right.
10:09:10 <fizzie> Because it sticks the $PWD inside the resulting "binary".
10:09:26 <fizzie> As the location of the precompiled headers.
10:10:24 <fizzie> And `` mv tmp/foo share/foo is probably still the same as `` rm tmp/foo, which I probably would've forgotten when finished.
10:11:51 <shachaf> I think you`d´ve remembered.
10:15:55 <fizzie> `` c='-O2 --std=c99 printf("muh")'; args=""; while [[ "$c" =~ ^(-[^ ]*)\ (.*) ]]; do args="$args ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}"; c="${BASH_REMATCH[2]}"; done; echo "code [$c] args [$args]"
10:15:56 <HackEgo> code [printf("muh")] args [ -O2 --std=c99]
10:16:43 <fizzie> That looks at least plausible, if not particularly pretty. Though maybe a shifty thing would be better.
10:22:16 <fizzie> `` sed -i -e '12s/^/args=""; while [[ "$c" =~ ^(-[^ ]*)\\ (.*) ]]; do args="$args ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}"; c="${BASH_REMATCH[2]}"; done\n/' -e 's/-O0/${args--O0}/' share/candide # bleh
10:22:20 <HackEgo> No output.
10:22:37 <shachaf> why not sled
10:23:18 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide -O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99");
10:23:19 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `./share/candide -O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99");'
10:23:28 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("I'm C99");'
10:23:29 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
10:23:37 <fizzie> I brokeded it again.
10:24:04 <fizzie> Oh, no -- I just can't quote.
10:24:12 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("whatever");'
10:24:18 <HackEgo> ​/dev/fd/0:1:48: error: one or more PCH files were found, but they were invalid \ /dev/fd/0:1:48: error: use -Winvalid-pch for more information \ /dev/fd/0:1:48: fatal error: headers: No such file or directory \ compilation terminated.
10:24:25 <fizzie> That's nice.
10:25:03 <fizzie> In retrospect, I'm not entirely sure about this precompiled trickery. At least it should have the fallback.
10:27:08 <izabera> yeah, the fox and the grapes
10:27:22 <fizzie> `` sed -e '1,+2d' -e '/SOURCE/,$d' share/configure > share/headers
10:27:26 <HackEgo> No output.
10:27:37 <izabera> y u no write it on your machine
10:27:47 <fizzie> `` ./share/candide '-O2 --std=c99 printf("whatever");'
10:28:10 <HackEgo> whatever
10:28:11 <fizzie> I didn't think there'd be this much to do, honestly.
10:29:19 <fizzie> The one thing it still needs is some way to do newlines (for preprocessor stuff) but one that fires only outside string/character literals.
10:30:34 <fizzie> `` rm share/configure share/candide-to-conf # hopefully won't need these any more
10:30:40 <HackEgo> No output.
10:37:08 <fizzie> `` c='#include <meh> \n #include <feh> \n printf("zuul\nbuul");'; echo "$c" | sed -e 's/\("[^"]*\)\\n\([^"]*"\)/\1~n\2/g' -e 's/\\n/\n/g' -e 's/\("[^"]*\)~n\([^"]*"\)/\1\\n\2/g'
10:37:09 <HackEgo> ​#include <meh> \ #include <feh> \ printf("zuul\nbuul");
10:37:14 <fizzie> Wonder if that would be good enough.
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10:40:46 <fizzie> Wouldn't work with multiple \n's inside a string literal, though. :/
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11:17:28 <izabera> can i get some feedback? https://github.com/izabera/inutility
11:18:00 <izabera> 24 mini programs so far, 1625 lines of code including the makefile
11:18:35 <int-e> . o O ( why are you reinventing busybox? )
11:18:42 <izabera> for fun!
11:18:55 <izabera> and profit if someone wants to pay me for it
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11:21:47 <int-e> somebody please stop me from playing that euclid game.
11:21:59 <izabera> int-e: stop playing that euclid game
11:23:14 <int-e> (progress: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/euclid.png ... and I'm not sure that all of these gold medels are actually possible since there is a bug that can be exploited to count fewer moves than have actually been made.)
11:23:22 <int-e> medals.
11:24:06 <int-e> (red numbers were added with gimp and indicate the target score)
11:25:47 <myname> i am surprised how it steadily gets better
11:26:58 <myname> there was a state where you could actually produce a perpendicular line by dividing a straight line in half
11:27:17 <int-e> Hmm, "it".
11:27:23 <int-e> ah.
11:28:11 <int-e> so there *is* reason to distrust those records, thanks.
11:28:53 <myname> you could also find the center of a circle by copying the cirle two times
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11:32:02 <int-e> though irritatingly the records I'm missing are the ones using just primitive tools... you'd think those would be more reliable. (I have not seriously thought about the regular pentagon yet)
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11:59:00 <\oren\> U-A684 HOW CAN I DRAW THIS
12:02:55 <int-e> it's a combination of з and ж isn't it.
12:03:52 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhwe agrees
12:05:42 <shachaf> ørꚅn
12:06:02 <shachaf> (that's intended to be oerjan, not \oren\, of course)
12:06:15 <shachaf> (maybe it's distorted enough to be ambiguous)
12:06:59 <int-e> `unidecode ꚅ
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12:07:54 <HackEgo> ​[U+A685 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ZHWE]
12:08:15 <shachaf> oerjwhen?
12:08:38 <shachaf> børgeois
12:10:14 <FireFly> beware of the børg
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13:14:23 <\oren\> `u8tbl 0x3220 0x3230
13:15:20 <HackEgo> ​㈠㈡㈢㈣㈤㈥㈦㈧㈨㈩㈪㈫㈬㈭㈮㈯ \ ㈰
13:25:03 <izabera> did they add (character) for every possible character?
13:25:37 <\oren\> no, just a lot of them
13:25:42 <\oren\> also circles
13:26:10 <\oren\> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3200.pdf
13:27:03 <\oren\> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U3300.pdf
13:28:00 <\oren\> those are the two blocks of "ridiculous characters for compatibility with JIS and KS standards"
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14:13:10 <\oren\> I'm going to generate a new ttf now
14:14:52 <fizzie> int-e: "GeoGebra - Error: Please check your input: Undefined variable pointRight"
14:19:06 <izabera> yeah int-e fix yo shit
14:19:39 <int-e> fizzie: you can click those away and continue playing. (also it's not my code)
14:19:54 <int-e> but yes, these popups are really annoying.
14:21:14 <int-e> (since they basically appear every time you click)
14:21:47 <fizzie> So far it's only been happening in one level.
14:22:01 <fizzie> Also I'm going to be unhappy if I end up getting equally hooked up on this game.
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15:07:46 <int-e> wee I broke a record
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15:24:33 <boily> AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
15:24:43 <boily> missed a `relcopportunity...
15:38:58 <int-e> so borry
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15:56:17 <\oren\> ugh, damn fontforge
16:05:32 <boily> he\\oren\. what are red characters?
16:06:34 <boily> also, there's something fishy going on with 南 and 西 in your mahjongcharacters hth
16:15:37 <int-e> `unidecode 
16:16:01 <HackEgo> U+F813 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef a0 93 UTF-16BE: f813 Decimal: &#63507; \  () \ Uppercase: U+F813 \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
16:16:31 <int-e> boily: perhaps all red characters are private use ones
16:17:07 <int-e> `unidecode 𝔆
16:17:17 <HackEgo> U+1D506 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9d 94 86 UTF-16BE: d835dd06 Decimal: &#120070; \ 𝔆 (𝔆) \ Uppercase: U+1D506 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned)
16:17:31 <int-e> hmm, not that one.
16:17:57 <int-e> red could also be a fading out green :P
16:19:26 <\oren\> they're all either private use or nonexistent
16:22:59 <boily> `unidecode 𐀀
16:23:02 <HackEgo> ​[U+10000 LINEAR B SYLLABLE B008 A]
16:30:47 <\oren\> AAAAAA WHY IS FONTFORGE HATING ME
16:30:53 <\oren\> IT CRASHED
16:31:31 <int-e> maybe you drew a bad character that needed to be punished
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17:00:20 <wob_jonas> Wow. SGDQ amazing this summer.
17:00:44 <wob_jonas> Seriously good runs.
17:00:50 <wob_jonas> (Also a few bad ones.)
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17:29:22 <\oren\> YAY FONTFORGE DID NOT CRASH!
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17:34:09 <gamemanj> ...this is april 1st, right?
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17:54:50 <zzo38> I think not.
17:56:35 <fizzie> int-e: Bluh. Is there any way to see of your existing medals whether they're primitive or not?
17:56:57 <wob_jonas> what medals?
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17:57:55 <int-e> fizzie: only when you have two of them
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17:58:12 <int-e> (then the left one is the all tools one)
17:58:34 <fizzie> Meh. I can't remember whether I've done some primitives-only. Though I guess most likely not.
18:01:21 <int-e> oh and for most levels you can compare the scores to the best known ones
18:02:03 <wob_jonas> um, what's this?
18:02:12 <fizzie> wob_jonas: http://euclidthegame.com/
18:02:46 <fizzie> I have a 3-move medal for level 4 but also no recollection of how it happened, and when I went to revisit it again, I always seem to take 4 moves now.
18:05:30 <wob_jonas> how does that thing work?
18:06:15 <wob_jonas> I mean, how do you draw a circle with a given length?
18:06:19 <int-e> click click click curse click click click
18:06:49 <int-e> you have to pick a radius by selecting two points (or creating them)
18:07:16 <wob_jonas> int-e: um, but I select three points in what order?
18:07:25 <wob_jonas> I want a center and a distance that doesn't start from the center
18:07:28 <wob_jonas> to copy a segment
18:07:34 <int-e> wob_jonas: you'll get that later
18:07:57 <wob_jonas> wait, I need to unlock a tool to get a fucking compass?
18:07:58 <int-e> the primitive circle is a collapsing circle... it can't copy lengths.
18:08:01 <wob_jonas> how is it even euclid that way?
18:08:10 <wob_jonas> I mean, I know it can be emulated with a collapsing compass
18:08:10 <int-e> err, compass.
18:08:15 <wob_jonas> but then they shouldn't call it euclid
18:08:23 <wob_jonas> because that's not the primitives Euclid decided are canon
18:10:25 <fizzie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compass-and-straightedge_construction "The compass is assumed to collapse when lifted from the page, so may not be directly used to transfer distances."
18:10:30 <fizzie> See, even Wikipedia thinks that's canon.
18:10:38 <wob_jonas> whoa...
18:10:39 <wob_jonas> strang
18:10:52 <fizzie> "The modern compass generally does not collapse and several modern constructions use this feature. It would appear that the modern compass is a "more powerful" instrument than the ancient collapsing compass. However, by Proposition 2 of Book 1 of Euclid's Elements, no power is lost by using a collapsing compass."
18:11:16 <wob_jonas> ok
18:11:22 <wob_jonas> I didn't know Euclid worked that way
18:11:35 <fizzie> int-e: There's something wrong. I did level 4 with "all tools" in 3 moves, and it said "perfect, minumum number of moves", but my medals still say "(3) (4)".
18:12:05 <wob_jonas> this is giving me error messages
18:12:10 <wob_jonas> on level 5
18:12:13 <fizzie> Two of the levels did.
18:12:24 <int-e> fizzie: the bar only updates when you switch levels
18:12:56 <fizzie> int-e: I did. It's still that way. But I guess the (3) is then the all-tools, and maybe I got confused and thought otherwise.
18:13:22 <wob_jonas> crazy game
18:13:27 <wob_jonas> thank you for linking to it
18:13:29 <int-e> fizzie: the first one is the all tools number, yes
18:14:55 <int-e> (which, irritatingly, requires at least one of the advanced tools to be used)
18:15:56 <wob_jonas> level 6 is the first where I'd really want to use a non-collapsing compass
18:15:59 <wob_jonas> would be so much easier
18:17:18 <int-e> wait till you get to level 11
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18:18:13 <wob_jonas> I can't imagine how I do this level 6 without a collapsible compass in only 4 moves of primitives (probably pretty obvious in hindsight)
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18:19:32 <fizzie> I just tried to add a primitive-moves solution to 6, and used 7 moves. I'm not sure I can be bothered to finish all-primitives.
18:20:24 <wob_jonas> also, can't I make a full line through two points in one step?
18:20:28 <wob_jonas> that's just strange
18:20:39 <int-e> wob_jonas: agreed
18:24:05 <fizzie> Also presumably from Euclid's list of postulates.
18:24:08 <wob_jonas> the interface is quite well done though
18:24:28 <fizzie> It's well done when it's not throwing up error messages on every operation.
18:24:32 <wob_jonas> yes
18:25:25 <int-e> wob_jonas: the lines thing leads to some awkward moments, for example in level 8, where the optimal solution, as far as I can tell, requires moving the initial points around
18:26:02 <wob_jonas> int-e: you can move the canvas, and even zoom, it seems
18:26:18 <int-e> you can move the points themselves
18:27:42 <int-e> panning and zooming was to be expected...
18:28:04 <\oren\> I've uploaded a new version
18:28:26 <fizzie> It links to https://www.geogebra.org/ which is I guess the toolkit it's built on.
18:28:35 <wob_jonas> huih, it says "well done" but doesn't offer me to move to the next level
18:28:39 <wob_jonas> from level 8
18:29:11 <fizzie> It says "well done" occasionally for individual points, if that's what you're seeing.
18:29:28 <wob_jonas> ah!
18:29:33 <wob_jonas> I actually have to draw the segment
18:29:43 <wob_jonas> even if there's already a half-line there
18:29:59 <fizzie> Well, that's a bit silly.
18:30:21 <fizzie> I wouldn't know, the only way I've done level 8 is the silly way.
18:32:35 <\oren\> thenew characters:
18:32:37 <\oren\> ㋀㋁㋂㋃㋄㋅㋆㋇㋈㋉㋊㋋㉈㉉㉊㉋㉌㉍㉎㉏㉐㍿㎍㎎㎏㎐㎑㎒㎓㎔㎕㎖㎗㎘
18:32:40 <\oren\> ㏠㏡㏢㏣㏤㏥㏦㏧㏨㏩㏪㏫㏬㏭㏮㏯㏰㏱㏲㏳㏴㏵㏶㏷㏸㏹㏺㏻㏼㏽㏾
18:32:43 <\oren\> ㊀㊁㊂㊃㊄㊅㊆㊇㊈㊉㊊㊋㊌㊍㊎㊏㊐㈠㈡㈢㈣㈤㈥㈦㈧㈨㈩㈪㈫㈬㈭㈮㈯㈰
18:32:46 <\oren\> ꝽꝾꝿꞀꞁꞂꞃꞄꞅꞆꞇꞈ꞉꞊ꞋꞌꞍꞎꞏꞐꞑꞒꞓꞔꞕꞖꞗꞘꞙꞚꞛꞜꞝꞞꞟꞠꞡꞢꞣꞤꞥꞦꞧꞨꞩꞪꞫꞬꞭꞮꞰꞱꞲꞳꞴꞵꞶꞷꟷꟸꟹꟺꟻꟼꟽꟾꟿ
18:32:50 <\oren\> ꙞꙟꙠꙡꙢꙣꙤꙥꙦꙧꚀꚁꚂꚃꚄꚅꚆꚇꚈꚉꚊꚋꚌꚍꚎꚏꚐꚑꚒꚓꚔꚕꚖꚗꚘꚙꚚꚛ։֊ՙ՚՛՜՝՞՟
18:32:53 <\oren\> ⎾⎿⏀⏁⏂⏃⏄⏅⏆⏇⏈⏉⏊⏋⏌⏍⏎⏏⏐⏑⏒⏓⏔⏕⏖⏗⏘⏙⏚⏛⏜⏝⏞⏟⏠⏡⏢⏣
18:33:09 <fizzie> Théoden Ednew.
18:33:16 <fizzie> (Just free-associating from "thenew".)
18:34:35 <wob_jonas> ah great, so level 9 is to do a non-collapsible compass
18:34:40 <wob_jonas> I hope it gives that as a tool then
18:36:38 <wob_jonas> argh! why isn't the reset button on the toolbar? it keeps putting down points when I try to click there
18:36:41 <int-e> yes it does, fully functional after level 11
18:41:56 <\oren\> with these characters you can give the date: ㍻28年㋆㏩㈰
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18:43:53 <wob_jonas> gold medal is difficult
18:44:44 <wob_jonas> um
18:44:52 <wob_jonas> is there an interface to go to the first level I haven't solved yet?
18:45:01 <wob_jonas> because it lists only the levels I solved on the left sidebar
18:45:36 <int-e> you can guess the link: http://euclidthegame.com/Tutorial/ http://euclidthegame.com/Level<nnn>/
18:45:37 <wob_jonas> I can type the number in the url, but there should be an easier way
18:45:42 <int-e> yes!
18:45:59 <int-e> but it assumes that you can only reach a level if you have solved the previous one
18:46:12 <int-e> I initially missed the tutorial that way.
18:50:27 <wob_jonas> is there a midpoint or mid-perpendicular level? there could be one early
18:51:02 <wob_jonas> hmm, level 16 doesn't say "well done" when I construct the center of the circle
18:51:25 <wob_jonas> I can't resize the canvas, right?
18:51:59 <int-e> you can... shift+scroll wheel of the mouse?
18:52:08 <wob_jonas> oh, there is a midpoint
18:52:24 <wob_jonas> int-e: that seems to zoom for me
18:52:31 <wob_jonas> not resize the area on the screen
18:52:51 <int-e> sorry.
18:53:01 <wob_jonas> I'm using a lot of non-primitives. it feels like cheating
18:53:12 <int-e> too much geometry; the effect is "similar" ;-)
18:54:46 <int-e> actually zooming the whole page works for me (firefox)
18:54:55 <wob_jonas> ah
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18:57:56 <wob_jonas> ah, first interesting level
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19:06:16 <wob_jonas> second interesting level
19:08:58 <int-e> the one that was most rewarding to solve, so far, was the primitive version of the incircle one
19:09:21 <int-e> (level 15)
19:09:31 <wob_jonas> int-e: I see
19:10:01 <wob_jonas> I'm doing level 24, any any of these so far are easy if you just want any solution, not a low move count one
19:10:29 <wob_jonas> but I think that will change in higher levels
19:11:11 <wob_jonas> are there keyboard shortcuts for the tools?
19:12:06 <wob_jonas> ah! regular pentagon (level 25)
19:12:09 <wob_jonas> getting nontrivial
19:12:29 <int-e> 25 is the last one though
19:13:38 <wob_jonas> is it? aren't there like 60 levels?
19:14:59 <wob_jonas> hmm... let me think, how do I construct one of these beasts
19:15:22 <int-e> there are 50 medals, 2 per level (minus 1 for level 1, plus 1 for the tutorial)
19:15:53 <wob_jonas> I did get a medal for level 1
19:15:57 <wob_jonas> or at least it shows up
19:16:03 <wob_jonas> a gold medal in fact
19:17:21 <wob_jonas> I'm still trying to think of how to construct a regular pentagon without going insane with a hundred of points on the screen
19:17:30 <wob_jonas> (don't spoil it)
19:18:57 <wob_jonas> the record is 10, so there has to be a way
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19:21:43 <wob_jonas> If I look up something in a geometry book for it, is that cheating?
19:21:58 <wob_jonas> I mean, it's on my shelf just right here
19:30:09 <int-e> it's up to you
19:30:27 <int-e> I remembered a construction, that's not really better than looking one up :P
19:30:55 <wob_jonas> I could do this procedure, but then I wouldn't naturally end up with the pentagon in the given circle, so I'd have to copy the angle
19:32:23 <wob_jonas> no wait, I could construct it so the angle appears there
19:32:45 <wob_jonas> is this one of those levels that give an error message each step?
19:32:50 <fizzie> Yes.
19:32:59 <wob_jonas> damn
19:33:25 <fizzie> 5 and 25.
19:43:08 <wob_jonas> I'm still trying to beat 2
19:43:09 <wob_jonas> 25
19:43:39 <int-e> do you have any opinion on solvability of level 14 (tangent at a point) in 4 primitive steps?
19:43:55 <fizzie> (I didn't realize until now that you could move the initial points.)
19:44:11 <wob_jonas> int-e: that says the record is 4
19:44:11 <int-e> err, in 3... I can do 4.
19:44:12 <wob_jonas> um
19:44:15 <wob_jonas> the record is 3
19:44:16 <wob_jonas> that yes
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19:44:55 <int-e> And I'm having a really hard time believing that is possible.
19:45:08 <wob_jonas> int-e: let me see
19:45:34 <fizzie> I haven't really managed any optimal primitive solutions ('cept levels 2 and 3).
19:45:41 <fizzie> So I don't feel qualified to have an opinion.
19:46:25 <wob_jonas> Does it give any obvious feedback somewhere for whether I've used only primitive tools?
19:46:35 <wob_jonas> It prints the number of moves, but not whether they're primitive
19:46:47 <int-e> no, it doesn't.
19:48:04 <int-e> http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/euclid.png is my progress (I've been on this since Tuesday, I think... spent way too many hours thinking about these things)
19:48:45 <fizzie> int-e: What does the red scribbled 5 mean for level 12?
19:49:02 <int-e> that the official record is worse than my own solution
19:49:48 <int-e> (but I moved one of the initial points... if one doesn't, it's one more step)
19:50:21 <int-e> (otoh, some of the best solutions seem to require moving the initial points... so... I guess 4 would be accepted)
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19:50:55 <wob_jonas> I have moved points, but I haven't done solutions where that's required yet
19:51:26 <int-e> the best primitve solution for level 8 would be my first candidate... pretty sure it's required there
19:51:27 <wob_jonas> and if you have a mouse that can move to complex coordinates, you probably never need to move
19:52:02 <int-e> (but the branching factor of these constructions is surprisingly big so my intuition may have pruned some viable route of attack)
19:52:21 <wob_jonas> there's one level where you would have to move, but the default placement is good so you don't have to
19:53:19 <int-e> (in level 8 the problem is that you only have a short segment of what ought to be a line... and the final result needs to be an actual segment. you can save one ray by moving the initial points)
19:53:41 <FireFly> hm, I think I've played this before
19:54:11 <wob_jonas> ah, I see, level 8 might be helped by moving I guess
19:54:12 <wob_jonas> let me try
19:56:17 <wob_jonas> I dunno
19:56:22 <wob_jonas> I should solve the pentagon first
20:01:21 <wob_jonas> argh! I keep not getting a pentagon
20:02:08 <wob_jonas> oh right
20:08:54 <wob_jonas> no, this doesn't work either
20:08:58 <wob_jonas> I have to find some other way
20:09:49 <wob_jonas> oh I see, I'm stupid, it can't work
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20:20:01 <wob_jonas> argh! frustrating
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20:23:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Boyss * New user account
20:24:26 <wob_jonas> 25 is HARD!
20:24:35 <wob_jonas> I know there's supposed to be an easy way, but I can't figure it out
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20:25:44 <Boyss> Hello
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20:29:59 <\oren\> `relcome Boyss
20:30:57 <Boyss> I have created a language but my skills in english aren't great. Will it be very bad if article on the wiki will contain some issues?
20:31:19 <izabera> it's a wiki, people can fix it
20:31:34 <HackEgo> No output.
20:32:08 <Boyss> k thx
20:33:14 <\oren\> HackEgo: YOU TRAITOR
20:34:08 <\oren\> `` ls bin/relcome
20:34:13 <HackEgo> bin/relcome
20:34:22 <\oren\> `` cat bin/relcome
20:34:24 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords
20:34:31 <wob_jonas> oren: it's just timeout, redo it
20:34:39 <\oren\> `relcome Boyss
20:34:40 <wob_jonas> oren: process was killed for timeout, that's why no output
20:34:43 <HackEgo> Boyss: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:34:48 <wob_jonas> ARGH MY EYES
20:35:34 <myname> THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING
20:36:02 <\oren\> I remember "is it a good idea to microwave this"
20:36:06 <wob_jonas> myname: yes
20:48:08 <gamemanj> Is it a good idea to microwave the server on which HackEgo runs on as punishment for the rainbow?
20:49:33 <izabera> it sure can't slow it down
20:52:10 <int-e> wob_jonas: I'm not sure there's an easy way... all constructions of the regular pentagon that I've seen do something with the golden ratio.
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20:53:37 <int-e> wob_jonas: I mean look at this list: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAnglesPi5.html
20:55:35 <Boyss> is there yet a language where the whole code is only names of variables?
20:55:52 <wob_jonas> int-e: well sure it has to do with the golden ratio
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21:04:52 <zzo38> Boyss: Make one up.
21:04:56 <zzo38> (If you know how)
21:05:35 <wob_jonas> Boyss: do the one-instruction computers where all the arguments are memory addresses count?
21:05:42 <wob_jonas> s/argument/operand/
21:06:13 <Boyss> @zzo38 that's the plan i was only wondering if it would be cool to name it like "only names of variables"
21:06:13 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
21:06:52 <Boyss> zzo38: that's the plan i was only wondering if it would be cool to name it like "only names of variables"
21:07:04 <zzo38> wob_jonas: I thought of that, but that includes jumps too, so I don't know if it is how Boyss wants; also if they have self-modifying codes
21:08:11 <Boyss> wob_jonas: idk (yet) but thanks for trace
21:08:17 <wob_jonas> zzo38: you can get one without jumps if there's an implicit loop around the whole thing (and possible conditional execution but that's not necessary), though it might be ugly and feel cheating (such as if it's based on a single instruction that does too many things or uses magical memory addresses)
21:08:24 <zzo38> Also if it uses relative addressing, it look like it isn't really just variable names, to me.
21:08:52 <zzo38> However, I do believe that such a programming language that Boyss is asking for would be a OISC, just not the existing one.
21:08:52 <wob_jonas> zzo38: my undocumented stupid single-instruction language uses absolute addressing, but it also has special registers
21:09:14 <wob_jonas> um, special memory-mapped registers that is
21:09:19 <zzo38> Document it please.
21:09:31 <wob_jonas> nah, it's a stupid one
21:09:33 <wob_jonas> I should make a better one
21:09:46 <zzo38> O, OK, then make a better one and document the better one please.
21:09:50 <wob_jonas> maybe
21:10:51 <wob_jonas> doesn't one of ais's languages, like 3SP or those permutation thingies, already work though?
21:11:37 <wob_jonas> Boyss: does it have to be Turing-complete or something? or would a language with the power level of about HQ9+ count?
21:11:52 <zzo38> I like TOGA computer, but that one must include instruction labels as well as variable names
21:12:12 <Boyss> wob_jonas: ofc it would be pretty easy if it didn't have to be TC
21:14:02 <zzo38> However I think that a harvard TOGA computer could be implemented by 74xx series without so much difficulty (it won't be Turing-complete of course); you need a presettable binary counter, the ROM, RAM, clock input, and a few other gates.
21:15:04 <wob_jonas> wait
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21:15:55 <wob_jonas> Boyas: would it count if the source code is all variables separated by spaces or newlines, so that there are multiple instructions that are chosen from how many variables are on a line? like, a one-arg instruction, a two-arg instruction, a three-arg instruction, and a four-arg instruction?
21:17:01 <zzo38> O, so in that case then it isn't OISC
21:17:20 <wob_jonas> zzo38: yes, but OISC isn't strictly what Boyss asked
21:17:41 <wob_jonas> you could also have non-oisc by having the first appearance of the variable be special (like it's a definition, and later it's a use)
21:19:24 <zzo38> I know that
21:19:27 <wob_jonas> more easily, if there are pre-defined primitives, but none have special syntax, so each could be defined in the language under another name, and maybe even the name can be shadowed by other names, then do those names count as variables?
21:19:36 <zzo38> I made a mistake by saying it must be OISC
21:20:31 <zzo38> But I was thinking that the program would simply consist of a list of variable names, where a variable name is like a JavaScript symbol value
21:20:32 <int-e> let the first variable be application, the second be S and the third be K...
21:20:54 <int-e> (cheating... but what, exactly, is the definition of a variable name?)
21:23:04 <int-e> you could even make it a bit more interesting by allowing definitions of new combinators A S K I A A S K K (A=application, S = S, K = K, I = S K K, ...)
21:24:08 <int-e> also, something forth-like could work
21:24:47 <wob_jonas> int-e: I was thinking of First, but it has too much syntax built-in to make me count everything a variable
21:25:19 <wob_jonas> hmm, is First not on the wiki? or do I know the name wrong?
21:25:40 <wob_jonas> name's first, and it's not on the wiki yet because it's in the todo at http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:B_jonas
21:31:47 <wob_jonas> int-e: otoh, eodermdrone without input would need two different separators, but it would still count as an oisc
21:32:06 <wob_jonas> I mean eodermdrone without input or output
21:32:41 <quintopia> those permutation thingies? MiniMAX?
21:33:18 <wob_jonas> wait
21:33:49 <wob_jonas> how about a non-self-modifying string rewriting language? still two separators, but you could count the characters in the strings variables, and it's still an oisc
21:34:05 <wob_jonas> with fixed string replacement
21:35:52 <shachaf> oerjan: is the rot13 of ø ̷b ?
21:36:46 <quintopia> are we trying to minimize number of symbols?
21:37:39 <quintopia> oh trting to make it all variable names
21:37:40 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I think the rot13 of ø is ø and if you have a text with lots of numbers or ø or other characters that rot13 passes through then you should use a different substitution cipher
21:37:57 <quintopia> id say 3sp does qualify
21:38:16 <shachaf> > map (\x -> (x + 13) `mod` 10) [0..9]
21:38:18 <lambdabot> [3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2]
21:38:30 <shachaf> Obviously that's how you rot13 digits.
21:39:09 <quintopia> obvi
21:39:53 <wob_jonas> quintopia: 3SP is not known to be Turing-complete, but I think it might not count even if we know it was
21:39:54 <quintopia> although, rot5 would more in the spirig of the cipher
21:40:49 <quintopia> why not bjonas?
21:40:55 <wob_jonas> Boyss: I think you nerd sniped me with that simple question
21:41:21 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I'm not sure, maybe it would actually count
21:41:50 <Boyss> wob_jonas sorry I'll try to make it easy soon
21:42:44 <wob_jonas> quintopia: ok, I guess I'm stupid, 3SP would count if we knew it was Turing-complete
21:43:24 <quintopia> wob_jonas: its totally a semantic question. do we distinguish between "variable name" and "memory address" or not?
21:45:03 <quintopia> it is almost certainly tc
21:45:14 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I dunno
21:47:26 <quintopia> i think alex has like 95% of a bct to 3sp compiler
21:47:54 <wob_jonas> "95%" hehe
21:49:18 <Boyss> is there a proper name for binary "digits" in english?
21:49:31 <wob_jonas> bits
21:49:34 <Boyss> oh
21:49:44 <wob_jonas> or do you mean digit numerals?
21:49:45 <Boyss> thanks thats the one
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21:52:25 <wob_jonas> some people call hexadecimal digits "hexits" so maybe we could call binary ones "binits"
21:53:27 <myname> lol @ name for binary digits
21:53:36 <FireFly> I'd just call them digits
21:56:27 <Boyss> thanks
21:58:28 <izabera> @tell fizzie people said you wrote this, can you explain it? #define container_of(ptr, type, member) (type *)((char *)(1 ? (ptr) : &((type *)0)->member) - offsetof(type, member))
21:58:29 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:00:39 <shachaf> @tell boily I've forgotten. What are your approximate coördinates and body weigh?
22:00:39 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:01:38 <izabera> @tell fizzie nevermind, they showed me the logs
22:01:38 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:05:29 <myname> i alsondisagree with rot5. since 13 and 5 are both relatively örime, there should be an X with rotX satisfying both digits and letters
22:07:42 <int-e> seriously, you want rot-65?
22:11:20 <Boyss> Is there an easy way to format my whole code to code on wiki (with spaces at the left)? Should i even paste the implementation in the article?
22:13:23 <myname> int-e: why not?
22:21:53 <int-e> I'm sure there's a good reason, give me a couple of years to come up with one...
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22:23:03 <wob_jonas> Boyss: just put a space before each line? usually works, depending on what's in your code. if it's not enough, add some <nowiki></nowiki> around parts that are interpreted as wiki syntax
22:24:44 <Boyss> thank you i meant like without clicking bc it's not that short. I have done that by hand but in the preview it doesn't show my double '
22:25:19 <wob_jonas> Boyss: use <nowiki></nowiki> for that
22:25:47 <Boyss> i get it now thanks
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22:30:54 <kozisyr> How does one choose a programming paradigm that best solves a problem---what's a good strategy, method, to follow?
22:31:34 <myname> don't do oop. done.
22:31:36 <wob_jonas> kozisyr: just use the latest and greatest fancy magic bullet paradigm, it solves everything
22:32:32 <kozisyr> heh heh
22:32:44 <kozisyr> but seriously
22:33:03 <wob_jonas> I dunno
22:33:10 <wob_jonas> maybe you need a good meta-paradigm
22:33:17 <wob_jonas> I don't have those
22:33:17 <Boyss> in a article I made a list of steps like how does the language work and in the preview all my newlines are gone <nowiki> doesn't help. How to fix that? I looked at other articles and there it worked
22:33:52 <wob_jonas> Boyss: do not indent if you want newlines to work
22:34:12 <wob_jonas> just use starting * for bullet list, or starting # for numbered list
22:34:20 <wob_jonas> or some html tags work too
22:36:04 <Boyss> I'll try that
22:38:08 <Boyss> Could you please show me an example of a numbered list?
22:38:20 <wob_jonas> #foo
22:38:21 <wob_jonas> #bar
22:39:50 <Boyss> oh god sorry i forgot to erase my <nowiki> from there ... Thank you for help
22:46:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Onov]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47342 * Boyss * (+3712) There is a language called ONOV
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22:51:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Onov]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47343&oldid=47342 * Boyss * (+0) Added more information about which lenghts of code will produce infinite cat programs
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22:53:38 <Boyss> Thank you all for helping me I finished the article it would be cool if you checked it out
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23:39:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Motoku * New user account
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23:47:44 <oerjan> <shachaf> I think you`d´ve remembered. <-- my experience says one always remembers - 1-10 seconds too late.
23:49:26 <shachaf> oerjan `neener´
23:49:30 <shachaf> :
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00:07:31 <quintopia> shachaf: do you have the slanted apostrophes keymapped or something?
00:08:27 <oerjan> <FireFly> beware of the børg <-- resistænce is futile. yøu will be åssimilæted.
00:09:24 <oerjan> quintopia: maybe he's using an apple product and he can't _avoid_ making them
00:09:35 <quintopia> oerjan: wat
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00:09:50 <quintopia> is that really a thing
00:10:13 <oerjan> didn't you see the complaint about getting smart quotes when cutting and pasting JSON.
00:10:33 <oerjan> quintopia: well, in spirit of exaggeration, at least.
00:11:01 <quintopia> no
00:11:10 <oerjan> (or wasn't that on this channel? i think it was here, but i could be confusing with reddit.)
00:11:30 <quintopia> true this channel is like...identical to reddit eh
00:12:04 <oerjan> quintopia: it was \oren\ two days ago.
00:12:29 <oerjan> 11:59:35 <\oren\> We had problems recently with spamert quotation marks showing up in JSON
00:12:32 <oerjan> 11:59:52 <\oren\> because apple are idiots
00:12:35 <oerjan> 12:00:29 <\oren\> who subsitute quotes with smart quotes when you copypaste text from one window to anohter
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00:13:22 <oerjan> quintopia: i've not seen that much MtG discussion on reddit so clearly you are speaking nonsense hth
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00:13:23 <shachaf> quintopia: it's called a backtick hth
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00:14:44 <oerjan> now much more accurate.
00:15:16 <quintopia> oerjan: you can tell when i'm being sarcastic when what i'm saying sounds like nonsense hth
00:15:39 * oerjan vaguely suspects the topic may have said something like that before.
00:15:49 <quintopia> shachaf: one of them is. do you call the other one a "forward tick"?
00:15:50 <oerjan> quintopia: hey it didn't seem like _total_ nonsense.
00:16:08 <quintopia> oerjan: i also sometimes flag sarcasm with "eh"
00:16:10 <shachaf> quintopia: Oh, the other one.
00:16:21 <shachaf> `icode ´
00:16:39 <oerjan> quintopia: i just thought you'd been conversing too much with canadians.
00:17:20 <quintopia> oerjan: not enough conversing with canadians, unfortunately. perhaps i shall move to canada to increase the quantity of canadian conversation?
00:17:22 <HackEgo> ​[U+00B4 ACUTE ACCENT]
00:17:23 <oerjan> quintopia: anyway it was the kind of comment that could have been on reddit.
00:17:41 <quintopia> fair enough
00:17:52 <oerjan> quintopia: yes, but that may not always work, see `? oren
00:17:57 <oerjan> `? oren
00:17:58 <shachaf> quintopia: I just have a cute accent.
00:18:05 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a.
00:18:37 <quintopia> shachaf: not as cute as pikhcute
00:18:38 <oerjan> shachaf: do you actually
00:18:55 <shachaf> oerjan: Hmm, how can I tell?
00:19:17 <quintopia> shachaf: record yourself. send it to oerjan. i'll accept his judgment.
00:19:23 <oerjan> you probably cannot. this needs a native american english speaker.
00:19:33 <shachaf> Well, some people in this channel have heard my accent.
00:19:43 * oerjan noticed half way through that "english speaker" was not redundant.
00:19:44 <pikhq> I'm not sure what makes an accent "cute" though.
00:19:59 <shachaf> I guess you're saying mine isn't.
00:20:06 <quintopia> oerjan: native americans did not traditionally speak english hth. (their english is also not exceptional or exceptionable.)
00:21:01 * oerjan sicks a purple people eater on quintopia
00:21:03 <oerjan> *sics
00:21:24 <quintopia> sicks [sic]
00:21:31 <quintopia> (why do you think they're purple?)
00:21:49 <shachaf> Don't sic oerjan's spelling.
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00:22:33 <quintopia> can i sick it?
00:23:07 <shachaf> <quintopia> can i sick [sic] it?
00:23:10 <oerjan> sic transit gloria mundi
00:23:59 <quintopia> ...now i want to find a story with a character called gloria mundi who dies in the end
00:24:14 <oerjan> quintopia: i think that pun has been made.
00:24:24 <quintopia> oerjan: in full-length story form?
00:24:47 <quintopia> i wouldn't be surprised, but i want to read it myself
00:24:55 <oerjan> no but apparently as an album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_Transit_Gloria_Mundi
00:25:53 <quintopia> ideally it would be a story where *no one* comments on the fact that gloria mundi is passing away, everyone is just appropriately sad. bonus points if it is *actually* sad
00:27:22 <oerjan> 'A New York Daily News story about the 1980 state transit bailout was published under the headline "Sick Transit's Glorious Monday."'
00:29:56 <quintopia> ....now that is a glorious pun
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00:30:04 <quintopia> whatever happened to the NYDN i wonder
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00:51:18 <zzo38> I have designed some Magic: the Gathering cards too though
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00:56:52 <quintopia> zzo38: did you do the art?
00:57:33 <zzo38> No, just the text and name. In some cases there is favortext and in some cases there is suggestions for art, though.
00:58:23 <shachaf> favortext?
00:58:33 <shachaf> you're doing us a big favor, writing that
00:59:10 <quintopia> zzo38: have you ever tried to do the art yourself?
00:59:13 <quintopia> or any art?
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01:13:23 <zzo38> No I have not done
01:14:11 <zzo38> But it is OK if other people want to make art, or even other version of favour texts, to write comment on my file.
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02:20:27 <shachaf> oerjan: do you endorse the views of the other #esoteric
02:24:42 <zzo38> Maybe there are more than one views so you have to depend what views?
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02:33:24 <oerjan> shachaf: i still have not checked it out hth
02:34:19 <oerjan> although i suspect i would only endorse a fragment of them.
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03:01:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47345&oldid=47193 * 24.242.95.85 * (+4) /* Factorial */
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03:28:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Calcutape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47347&oldid=47333 * Darkrifts * (+18) /* Sample programs */
03:29:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Calcutape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47348&oldid=47347 * Darkrifts * (+103)
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03:39:15 <zzo38> If you know what such views would be, say so in order to answer such questions more satisfactorily.
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03:40:08 <shachaf> zzo38: Have you invented a better query language than SQL?
03:43:05 <quintopia> whats wrong with set-builder notation as a query language?
03:43:41 <shachaf> It's limited.
03:50:01 <zzo38> shachaf: No I have not done, but I think SQL is working OK. But I have invented extensions to SQL which have not been implemented as far as I know, such as extensions to access RDF data, as well as some other things.
03:52:37 <zzo38> Some features I wanted for SQL have to do with SQLite APIs and not with the SQL code itself; some of these have been implemented but not all. For example, I have more suggestions for features for virtual tables, such as the ability of the module to deal with LIMIT and OFFSET clauses, and the ability of the module to do batch updates and batch deletions.
03:52:54 <shachaf> Cale: If an inner join is a pullback, what are all the other kinds of joins?
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04:02:51 <zzo38> There is now the ability for a SQLite virtual table module xBestIndex method to know which columns are used by a colUsed field, although this field includes even consumable uses, and I would rather that it omitted consumable uses; it would make more sense to me. If this were changed, then sqlite3_vtab_config() should be used to configure this, for purpose of backward compatibility.
04:07:13 <zzo38> Another enhancement would be to allow additional sqlite3_declare_vtab() calls, where the additional ones are CREATE INDEX instead of CREATE TABLE statements. A partial index and index on expression are allowed (and in the case of virtual tables, a CREATE INDEX statement that doesn't use either of these features is probably useless, unless it contains COLLATE clauses too, so that you can create a virtual table that supports multiple collations.)
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04:50:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Calcutape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47349&oldid=47348 * Darkrifts * (+661)
04:54:08 <shachaf> `relcome incomprehensibly
04:54:51 <HackEgo> incomprehensibly: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
04:58:30 <oerjan> i have a feeling i've seen em before.
04:58:55 <shachaf> oerjan: maybe in _The Wizard of Oz_?
04:59:19 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
05:00:34 <zzo38> It says "incomprehensibly" is Micah Johnston.
05:01:02 <oerjan> that is entirely irrelevant to the swatting hth
05:03:32 <quintopia> was em a witch?
05:03:56 <shachaf> quintopia: itym "was ey a witch" hth
05:04:02 <shachaf> hmm, no
05:04:06 <shachaf> quintopia: itym "was e a witch" hth
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05:04:13 <shachaf> so many variants
05:04:26 <oerjan> quintopia: think more familiar hth
05:05:13 <quintopia> nope no idea
05:05:34 <oerjan> well, caun't help you any more.
05:05:48 <quintopia> fair enough
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05:14:59 <zzo38> Is who the witch?
05:16:05 <zzo38> Some Wiccans will call themself witches while others will not (I have heard from someone was with two other people one person introduced another as a witch but then she said she is not a witch she is Wiccan)
05:16:46 <zzo38> Does the number 11 on a rotary telephone in a hotel mean to access the outside line (which is 9 on modern telephones)?
05:17:07 <shachaf> zzo38; Rotary phones are obsolete.
05:18:24 <zzo38> That fails to answer the question. I mean at a time when the Hotel Pennsylvania had a rotary telephone.
05:18:58 <shachaf> Rotary phones have been obsolete my entire life.
05:19:00 <zzo38> Someone I asked about this picture suggested that is what 11 is for.
05:19:12 <shachaf> So they've been obsolete forever.
05:20:49 <zzo38> But there is a picture of the telephone dial on the latest issue of 2600.
05:21:21 <shachaf> The one that published your letter?
05:21:28 <zzo38> Yes
05:21:55 <shachaf> Can I look at it for free?
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05:23:12 <zzo38> If you go to a book store that has it then you can look there I suppose. If you find it at the store and want to buy it, you have to pay $6.95 (United States) or $8.95 (Canadian), plus tax.
05:23:38 <zzo38> You may also find a picture of the covers in their webpages; I don't know, but you can try.
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05:25:50 <zzo38> I don't actually know where this picture came from, but at least it appears to be from Hotel Pennsylvania; it has their telephone number in the middle.
05:27:10 <zzo38> (Their telephone number was (and still is) PENnsylvania 5000, I think in the 212 area code.)
05:27:55 <shachaf> My phone number is SHA-CHAF.
05:28:05 <shachaf> The area code isn't 212.
05:28:23 <zzo38> Do you know of anyone who has kept the same telephone number for longer than them? (This is a question that was asked in a letter in a previous issue.)
05:29:49 <pikhq> Define "obsolete". In much of the US, pulse dialing still works.
05:30:02 <shachaf> pikhq: I mean it in the Google sense, of course.
05:30:22 <pikhq> They are certainly obsolete in the Google sense.
05:30:41 <shachaf> I wish that one comic was public.
05:30:55 * pikhq nods
05:32:34 <zzo38> Pulse dialing ought to still work! A telephone is much simpler to design with pulse dialing (although some functions will not work, such as if you need an extension number, but this is OK); if you have switch, microphone, speaker, bell, it will be enough, I think. Even if it does not actually have a dial, it will work (I have tried it, and yes it does work even without a dial).
05:33:12 <shachaf> Pulse dialing is useful because you can do it yourself when necessary.
05:33:36 <zzo38> Yes
05:34:20 <zzo38> And, I have done it manually without the dial, actually.
05:36:14 <shachaf> zzo38: But I can't do it from my cell phone.
05:36:38 <zzo38> (Why? It is because I wanted to just see if it works; it did work.)
05:36:39 <shachaf> i,i i use two phones to talk to my broker: a sell phone and a buy phone
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05:39:50 <zzo38> But the cellular system is entirely different anyways
05:40:22 <shachaf> Not entirely.
05:40:31 <shachaf> For example, it still uses phone numbers.
05:43:43 <pikhq> Sure, but it's not attempting to present the entire user interface over a low bandwidth analog line.
05:55:05 <Cale> shachaf: Well, those involve NULL in various ways, don't they?
05:55:53 <Cale> You can probably express them in ways involving 1+A and 1+B for the two tables
05:56:59 <shachaf> I guess you would want something like These.
05:57:43 <shachaf> But sum types are too good for SQL, anyway.
06:00:02 <shachaf> What happens when you do an SQL join and some fields are actually NULL? Probably a mess.
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06:43:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Calcutape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47351&oldid=47350 * Darkrifts * (-9) /* Stack control */
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06:53:01 <zzo38> The document for SQLite says a join with null values is treated the same way as = operator with null values.
06:53:28 <shachaf> zzo38: Do you like pullbacks?
06:53:55 <zzo38> I don't know
06:54:46 <shachaf> Do you like pushouts?
06:55:21 <zzo38> I don't know
06:55:46 <shachaf> How about equalizers?
06:55:55 <shachaf> Do you like the great equalizer?
06:56:45 <Darkrifts> 52*_*_2-@_3-@5+@ {}
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06:57:26 <zzo38> I don't know
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07:12:25 <zzo38> Once on CBC Debaters they debate about use of American vs British spelling in Canada, but both are wrong because in Canada you have to use Canadian spelling, which uses some of each. Commands in a computer program should be American, although the documentation and GUI and comments can use any and does not even necessarily have to be English.
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07:26:48 <Taneb> Hi everyone
07:26:57 <Taneb> I'm using voice recognition to type again
07:27:10 <Taneb> Because it worked so well last time
07:27:18 <Taneb> Actually it's going pretty well this time
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07:27:31 <Taneb> I guess the technology has improved somewhat
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07:55:36 <zzo38> I made up a program to filter text from stdin using a JavaScript program specified by command-line argument. This program is itself written in JavaScript.
07:58:58 <oerjan> Taneb: the vodka is good but the meat is rotten hth
08:13:07 * oerjan looks at freefall and thinks that it's sort of 18 years since his last chapter ended, too
08:13:53 <shachaf> hi Taneb
08:13:58 <shachaf> i can't hear you
08:14:06 <shachaf> so i don't think this voice recognition thing is working very well
08:14:15 * oerjan removes the banana from shachaf's ear
08:14:38 <shachaf> /mode +b ana
08:14:52 <shachaf> ban ananas
08:15:43 <oerjan> on pine of apple
08:16:58 <oerjan> and randall has a new hobby
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09:15:03 <b_jonas> I did eventually manage to solve the pentagon puzzle (on euclid), but my solution is long and ugly
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09:15:15 <b_jonas> I'll try to optimize the move count a bit, while keeping the same principle
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10:05:27 <Boyss> Hello everyone
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10:17:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Onov]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47352&oldid=47343 * 89.72.56.11 * (-35) Deleted elements from the code and corrected the list of steps.
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10:28:13 <ais523> huh, something came up at work that I just realised I know how to do in Haskell, but not OCaml
10:28:16 <ais523> and it's pretty type-eso
10:28:33 <ais523> on the offchance, anyone here that's able to help?
10:28:37 <ais523> <ais523> I have a program that (simplified) works like this: f (a1 : [`x] list) = let a2 = g a1 in let a3 = (h : [`x] list -> [`y] list) a2 in let (a4 : [`y] list) = g a3 in a4
10:28:45 <ais523> <ais523> but now I need to change g so that its argument is a [< `x | `y] list; can I do that whilst asserting that its return value and argument have the same type?
10:28:55 <ais523> <ais523> (the actual example is more complex but follows this general pattern)
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10:35:13 <shachaf> What's that thing in Haskell?
10:35:32 <shachaf> I know so little OCaml that I'm not sure what you're doing, so I probably wouldn't be able to help.
10:36:22 <ais523> shachaf: g :: (SomeTypeClass a => a -> a)
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10:37:08 <shachaf> I don't follow the rest of the example. I guess I should look up OCaml syntax.
10:37:10 <ais523> where the typeclass in question describes the existence of a function whose argument is a and whose return value is a list of an ADT whose constructors are X and Y
10:37:18 <ais523> err, (SomeTypeClass a => [a] -> [a])
10:37:23 <ais523> forgot the list bit :-P
10:38:50 <shachaf> What's [`x], or [< `x | `y]?
10:39:28 <ais523> [`x] is a variant type whose constructors are exactly `x (actually it has to be captialized, so `X)
10:40:12 <ais523> [< `X | `Y] is a variant type whose constructors are some subset of `X and `Y (so there are four possible types there, False, [`X], [`Y], and [`X|`Y])
10:41:20 <ais523> likewise, [> `X | `Y] is a variant type whose constructors are some /superset/ of `X and `Y
10:42:34 <shachaf> Where `X and `Y are nullary constructors?
10:42:50 <ais523> yes
10:43:22 <ais523> you can give them arguments too, e.g. [`X of int], but I didn't because I was trying to come up with the simplest example that illustrated the problem
10:43:46 <shachaf> So [< `X | `Y] behaves like Bool for most purposes, for consumers?
10:44:45 <ais523> shachaf: right
10:45:46 <shachaf> What's the difference between [`X | `Y] and [< `X | `Y]?
10:46:58 <ais523> I think mathematically there isn't one
10:47:17 <ais523> OCaml refuses to treat the types as the same, though, probably because the equivalence doesn't hold once you start giving arguments to the constructors
10:48:34 <shachaf> What's the difference between [< `X of int | `Y of bool] and [`X of int | `Y of bool]?
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10:53:23 <shachaf> I'm missing something about variants but I'll find out what it is another time.
10:53:36 <shachaf> I don't quite see how that example would be translated to Haskell, though.
10:54:26 <shachaf> But I ought to have gone to sleep several hours ago.
10:54:45 <ais523> night then
10:54:45 <ais523> #ocaml seem to have found an answer anyway
10:55:03 <shachaf> What's the answer?
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10:57:15 <shachaf> OK, I guess I see what I was missing about variants.
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11:01:57 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: [< ] and [> ] denotes variance; a value with [< `X | `Y] would be able to be contracted to either [< `X] or [< `Y] when the subsequent check requires that, likewise [> `X | `Y] will allow the extension to, say, [> `X | `Y | `Z]
11:02:53 <ais523> lifthrasiir: you've got that backwards
11:03:12 <ais523> [< `X | `Y] can be expanded to [< `X | `Y | `Z]
11:03:20 <lifthrasiir> I haven't used OCaml for ages, so I might be wrong :p
11:03:26 <ais523> [> `X | `Y] can be contracted to [> `X]
11:03:29 <shachaf> So the type of `X is [> `X], for instance.
11:03:42 <ais523> yes
11:04:00 <ais523> and the type of function `X -> 0 is [< `X] -> int
11:04:03 <shachaf> But [`X | `Y] and [< `X | `Y] have the same number of inhabitants.
11:04:11 <shachaf> And you consume them essentially the same way.
11:04:26 <lifthrasiir> ais523: ah I think I confused because function args should have the *inverted* variance to be checked
11:04:29 <lifthrasiir> yeah
11:04:48 <ais523> yes, OCaml is notorious for not automatically casting between types even when they're mathematically equivalent
11:05:03 <ais523> my codebase has at least one example where I've written the identity function by writing out cases
11:05:17 <ais523> in order to "launder" a variance
11:05:30 <b_jonas> ais523: isn't that because they have a type system where there's no algorithm for determining if the types are equivalent?
11:05:31 <ais523> because OCaml couldn't handle either just using the value directly, or a cast
11:05:37 <lifthrasiir> in turn OCaml has a relatively straightforward type checker, I think
11:05:42 <ais523> b_jonas: right, I strongly suspect that this is to do with keeping the type system decidable
11:06:59 <Sgeo> ais523, congratulations on getting on the NetHack dev team!
11:07:05 <shachaf> Subtyping is complicated.
11:07:19 <ais523> Sgeo: thanks
11:07:44 <shachaf> Sgeo: Have you congratulated the NetHack devteam for getting ais523?
11:08:19 <ais523> `unidecode ←
11:08:57 <HackEgo> ​[U+2190 LEFTWARDS ARROW]
11:09:06 <ais523> `unicode DIAGONAL ARROW
11:09:33 <ais523> English lacks good words for describing diagonals
11:09:54 <shachaf> ais523: You want e.g. "NORTH WEST ARROW"
11:10:03 <ais523> people sometimes use compass directions or times on a 12 hour clock instead
11:10:05 <ais523> right
11:10:23 <ais523> `unicode SOUTH EAST ARROW
11:10:29 <ais523> btw my connection is very laggy atm
11:10:32 <HackEgo> No output.
11:10:37 <HackEgo> ​↘
11:10:41 <ais523> thanks HackEgo
11:11:01 <shachaf> You can also use times on a 24-hour clock.
11:11:16 <shachaf> You get more precision at a cost of confusing everyone you're talking to.
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11:11:47 <ais523> you can use angles, but only if you've agreed a coordinate system in advance
11:11:53 <b_jonas> ais523: yeah. here in Hungary we have the roads numbered so that 1..8 go roughly to the eight compass directions in order, and all roads have a number whose first digit is the octant, but nobody uses this to describe directions.
11:11:57 <ais523> 315° DEGREE ARROW
11:12:24 <b_jonas> (funnily, there are also road numbers whose first digit is 9 and a road with number 0)
11:12:24 <shachaf> You can communicate a permutation through an ordering, but only if you've agreen on an ordering in advance.
11:12:29 <ais523> b_jonas: the UK has a very similar system, with 9 numbered regions for describing zones
11:12:53 <ais523> six of them radiate from London, three from Edinburgh
11:13:18 <ais523> and the boundaries are the A1, the A3, the A4, the A5, the A6, the A7, the A8, the A9, and the River Thames between 1 and 2
11:13:35 <shachaf> What's common to all those things, anyway?
11:13:41 <ais523> (the A1 goes to both London and Edinburgh, in order to reduce the number of boundary roads needed by 1)
11:13:55 <ais523> "those things" = ?
11:13:56 <b_jonas> It would be nice if road numbers, postal codes, and telephone codes would be numbered in some roughly corresponding way, but no such luck, they're three different systems.
11:13:56 <shachaf> Permutation and total (well?) ordering, linear map/matrix and basis, etc.
11:14:05 <shachaf> I'm slightly incoherent right now.
11:14:10 <ais523> b_jonas: is the number 0 a circular road that goes through all eight zones, by any chance?
11:14:33 <ais523> shachaf: I don't know but have a feeling that the answer has something to do with category theory
11:14:40 <shachaf> For a finite set of size n, there are n! permutations and n! total orders you can put on that set.
11:14:46 <shachaf> But there's no natural isomorphism between those two.
11:15:03 <shachaf> Yes, "naturality" is the first step in an answer.
11:15:29 <shachaf> But I bet they're more connected than that.
11:15:38 <b_jonas> ais523: that's the plan, although it's not a full cycle (possibly not yet a full cycle), and it's actually called M0, and some numbers are used twice, once with M and once without, and M means a motorway/freeway and exactly that.
11:15:42 <shachaf> For example, maybe it's actually a well-ordering you need, not a total ordering.
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11:16:03 <shachaf> "every set can be well-ordered" and "every vector space has a basis" are both equivalent to the axiom of choice. Maybe there's something there?
11:16:22 <b_jonas> ok wait, the M prefix isn't quite an exact system, just rough
11:17:13 <shachaf> Of course, in finite cases you don't need the axiom of choice.
11:18:23 <ais523> b_jonas: the UK road numbering system has a letter prefixed to the road number that indicates the class of road, and numbers are unique only within a class (actually there are a few accidental duplicate numbers but there aren't meant to be)
11:18:39 <b_jonas> ais523: I see
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11:19:20 <ais523> <ais523> b_jonas: the UK road numbering system has a letter prefixed to the road number that indicates the class of road, and numbers are unique only within a class (actually there are a few accidental duplicate numbers but there aren't meant to be)
11:19:39 <ais523> although in the case of motorways, sometimes we suffix the M instead when talking about a motorway upgrade of or bypass to an A-road
11:20:00 <ais523> the A1 and M1 are different roads; the A1(M) is a different road from the M1, and follows the path of the A1
11:20:09 <ais523> but the A1(M) and M1 are both motorways (the A1 isn't)
11:20:30 <shachaf> Do other statements that are equivalent to the axiom of choice have to do with naturality?
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11:56:47 <boily> `wisdom
11:56:52 <boily> @massages-loud
11:56:52 <lambdabot> shachaf said 13h 56m 12s ago: I've forgotten. What are your approximate coördinates and body weigh?
11:57:14 <boily> hellochaf. Montréal, 165 lbs.
11:57:44 <HackEgo> codoctor//P⚭Q ∧ P ∈ 𝔻𝕣 → Q ∈ 𝔻𝕣*
11:58:40 <int-e> ....what.
11:58:51 <int-e> `culprits wisdom/codoctor
11:59:19 <HackEgo> hppavilion[2]
11:59:52 <int-e> `? hg
11:59:55 <int-e> `? cafreine
11:59:59 <HackEgo> hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury.
12:00:04 <HackEgo> Cafreine is the favorite drug of category theorists.
12:02:05 <int-e> `? abyss
12:02:08 <HackEgo> In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same.
12:02:50 <boily> `? int-e
12:02:52 <HackEgo> int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv.
12:07:42 <boily> “Its place of articulation is disputed (see below).”
12:13:35 <int-e> I can't remember where that idea of blowing up the Sun came from.
12:13:58 <int-e> HackEgo: thanks for the reminder!
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12:15:59 <boily> `` ls wisdom/{l,}koen*
12:16:13 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wisdom/lkoen*: No such file or directory \ wisdom/koen \ wisdom/koen_
12:16:32 <boily> `? wisdom koen
12:16:33 <HackEgo> wisdom koen? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:16:36 <boily> ...
12:16:38 <boily> `? koen
12:16:41 <boily> `? koen_
12:16:41 <HackEgo> Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives).
12:16:47 <HackEgo> Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives).
12:16:51 <LKoen> better french would be "en haut"
12:17:12 <boily> t'as rien vu, personne n'a aucune preuve, la la la la la ♪
12:17:51 <boily> `` rm wisdom/koen*
12:18:00 <HackEgo> No output.
12:18:13 <boily> `learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L est s'est envolé.
12:18:18 <HackEgo> Learned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L est s'est envolé.
12:18:22 <boily> `learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé.
12:18:22 <LKoen> et s'est envolé
12:18:25 <HackEgo> Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tout Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé.
12:18:37 * boily can't type
12:18:57 <LKoen> I think I actually had a view on the eiffel tower when this first wisdom entry was made
12:19:00 <int-e> this is not a sequence of letters
12:19:00 <b_jonas> heh
12:19:39 <int-e> now what does "tout" mean...
12:19:46 <boily> int-e: "all".
12:19:55 <boily> `learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé.
12:20:01 <HackEgo> Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé des L et s'est envolé.
12:20:02 * boily sucks at typing
12:20:11 <int-e> so it wasn't intentional... okay
12:21:44 <boily> are there any other dumb typos lingering in that?
12:24:00 <LKoen> I would've said "mais il s'est préfixé d'un L" rather than "des L"
12:26:03 <boily> I think the pun works better with "des L", as they usually come in pairs.
12:26:16 <boily> `learn LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé.
12:26:25 <HackEgo> Relearned 'lkoen': LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé.
12:26:25 <LKoen> oh
12:26:37 <int-e> ""
12:26:37 <int-e> third-person singular imperfect indicative of vivre
12:27:01 <int-e> still stuck on that... AND WHY DOES FIREFOX ADD A NEWLINE IN FRONT WHEN I SELECT A WHOLE LINE!?!! grrr.
12:27:11 <LKoen> int-e: "used to live"
12:28:41 <int-e> I don't think I'm ever going to learn that language.
12:29:45 <boily> je vis, tu vis, il cloue... conjugation is easy!
12:30:37 <b_jonas> there's a pun?
12:30:46 <b_jonas> you're doing french puns now?
12:31:23 <int-e> `? oren
12:31:27 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a.
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12:31:54 <izabera> hey
12:32:02 <izabera> settimeofday({1476087005, 0}, NULL) = 0 in strace i see this
12:32:09 <izabera> but it doesn't set the date
12:32:18 <izabera> maybe ntp is involved, maybe not
12:32:20 <izabera> how do i fix it?
12:32:34 <boily> b_jonas: :D
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12:32:43 <int-e> `` sed -i 's/.$/ and other shady characters./' wisdom/oren; cat wisdom/oren
12:32:49 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters.
12:33:30 <int-e> `cat bin/sled
12:33:32 <HackEgo> ​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; }
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13:00:22 <mroman> b_jonas: How's that force going you were bruting?
13:00:54 <b_jonas> mroman: that can't work, and I've started to wonder that maybe there's no strategy that beats random
13:01:03 <b_jonas> I'm not sure really, I'll still try to think more of it
13:01:35 <int-e> strategy, hmm
13:01:35 <b_jonas> it reminds me a bit to a favourite maths problem, but definitely not the same
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13:01:38 <b_jonas> the Chameleon one
13:01:55 <b_jonas> I don't think I told you that one ever
13:02:29 <mroman> I've never heard about chameleons from you.
13:03:18 <b_jonas> Let me tell that one, it's an interesting problem with no elementary solution.
13:04:24 <b_jonas> The story is this. A toy company releases a new line of toys: toy chameleons that can change their color. As sold in the unopened boxes, every chameleon has a unique color, different from every other chameleon.
13:04:24 <mroman> I'm pretty certain that there's no strategy that beats random.
13:04:32 <mroman> that's what my empirical data and intuition tells me so far.
13:06:15 <b_jonas> You can touch two chameleons of different color, and that makes one of the two become the color of the other, while the other doesn't change, so they are the same color afterwards. However, there's no way to tell which of the two chameleons will change color, and regardless of what happened before and what chameleons you touch, there's exactly 1/2 probability for one or the other.
13:06:59 <mroman> what
13:07:05 <b_jonas> Was that truncated?
13:07:11 <mroman> the left chameleon is blue, the right is red
13:07:14 <b_jonas> yes
13:07:18 <mroman> ok
13:07:31 <mroman> so I can touch the left blue one
13:07:41 <mroman> either the left blue one changes to red or the right red one changes to blue
13:07:48 <mroman> either way I know which one has changed color.
13:07:49 <b_jonas> If you touch the two chameleons to each other, then with 1/2 probability, both chameleons will be blue after, and with 1/2 probability, both will be red afterwards.
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13:08:00 <b_jonas> mroman: sure, but you can't tell in advance which will change
13:08:08 <mroman> oh. yeah.
13:08:09 <b_jonas> you can tell after
13:08:11 <mroman> no I can't that
13:08:29 <mroman> but
13:08:38 <mroman> let's say you are not allowed to learn what number the opponent picked
13:08:49 <mroman> you only know whether your number was larger, smaller or equal
13:08:59 <b_jonas> Um, can't I finish the chameleon thing first?
13:09:03 <mroman> you ca
13:09:05 <mroman> *go ahead
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13:09:31 <b_jonas> You play this game: you start with N chameleons (N is a natural number), each a different color, and in each step, you touch two chameleons of different color (you never touch two chameleons that are of the same color).
13:09:40 <b_jonas> The game ends when all N chameleons are the same color.
13:09:46 <b_jonas> There are four questions:
13:10:14 <b_jonas> (A) Prove that the number of steps of the game (from start to end) has a finite expected value.
13:10:29 <b_jonas> No wait, start that one over.
13:10:39 <b_jonas> (A) Prove that no matter what strategy you follow, the number of steps of the game (from start to end) has a finite expected value.
13:10:59 <b_jonas> (B) Prove that the expected value of the number of steps is the same regardless of what strategy you follow.
13:11:08 <b_jonas> (C) What is this expected value exactly?
13:11:52 <b_jonas> (D) Prove however, that the strategy you follow can change the distribution of the number of steps of the game (at least if N isn't too small).
13:12:30 <b_jonas> Of these, (A) and (D) have elementary solutions, but (B&C) doesn't (I believe).
13:15:21 <b_jonas> mroman: go on, you can tell abou tthe numbers thing if you want
13:17:17 <int-e> b_jonas: what happens when you touch teh chameleons...
13:17:34 <b_jonas> int-e: see above.
13:17:47 <b_jonas> You can touch two chameleons of different color, and that makes one of the two become the color of the other, while the other doesn't change, so they are the same color afterwards.
13:18:04 <b_jonas> However, there's no way to tell which of the two chameleons will change color, and regardless of what happened before and what chameleons you touch, there's exactly 1/2 probability for one or the other.
13:19:19 <int-e> okay.
13:19:33 <int-e> (sorry, small window...)
13:25:08 <b_jonas> M:tG rules. The ability of Eradicate looks at the name of the creature as it was on the battlefield, but in contrast the ability of Deicide looks at the name of the card in exile, right?
13:25:39 <mroman> in each step you touch two chameleons together?
13:25:44 <mroman> sorry afk for a moment
13:26:16 <mroman> neat
13:26:34 <mroman> because chameleons that have changed color might change back
13:27:16 <mroman> so you can't just line them all up.
13:27:48 <mroman> If I have 4 chameleons, I can get two pairs of same colored ones.
13:27:56 <b_jonas> mroman: yes, in each step you touch two chameleons that are (before that step) different color to each other.
13:28:05 <mroman> can I touch chameleons again and again?
13:28:08 <mroman> until they take the color I want?
13:28:20 <mroman> oh wait I can't do that.
13:28:21 <b_jonas> yes, but not just the same two chameleons right after the other of course
13:28:33 <mroman> because I loose colors :(
13:28:36 <b_jonas> you can later touch the same two pairs of chameleons if they changed since
13:28:51 <mroman> well the same two would be pointless
13:28:54 <mroman> because the'll have the same color
13:29:38 <mroman> ok
13:29:51 <mroman> I have 4 chams with colors ABCD (upper case letters are colors)
13:30:06 <mroman> I pair AB and CD so I get AACC (or BBCC or whatever, doesn't really matter)
13:30:27 <mroman> Now I pair the ones in the middle which gives me AAAC or ACCC
13:30:43 <mroman> let's assume I get AAAC
13:30:47 <mroman> I will pair the two right most
13:31:04 <mroman> which leaves me with AAAA or AACC at which point I'm at the same point as a few steps above
13:31:11 <mroman> so I just repeat the process until I get AAAA
13:31:55 <mroman> so it's at least possible
13:33:23 <mroman> It's basically like tossing coins an that point
13:33:38 <mroman> with a 50:50 chance you either go back to AACC or get AAAA
13:34:09 <mroman> but that's not finite
13:35:06 <mroman> probably disproving A
13:36:01 <b_jonas> mroman: that sounds right about what happens with this strategy, but why do you think the expected value of steps is not finite? I think it is finite in this case.
13:36:21 <mroman> because you repeat a 50:50 chance event over and over again
13:36:54 <mroman> there's no finite number of steps that guarantees you that you win at least once when tossing coins?
13:38:16 <mroman> after 10 steps you have a 1/1024 chance of not yet having all chameleons the same color
13:39:36 <int-e> right, you can get unlucky and then the game will go on forever, at least when there's more than 2 chameleons initially.
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13:41:39 <b_jonas> mroman: yes, but luckily I didn't ask for a finite number of steps that guarantees that the game ends.
13:42:28 <b_jonas> (and I think you don't win when the game ends, you lose, since the toys you payed good money for no longer provide you entertainment value.)
13:42:55 <b_jonas> (but that's irrelevant for the maths problem)
13:43:13 <int-e> good news for the manufacturer
13:43:18 <b_jonas> int-e: yep
13:43:57 <mroman> oh
13:44:11 <mroman> so once you end up at the same colors again the game is finished?
13:44:35 <mroman> well.
13:44:46 <mroman> in the first step you get rid of half the colors.
13:45:01 <b_jonas> yes, the game ends when all chameleons are the same color.
13:45:19 <mroman> then it might never end
13:45:29 <b_jonas> (the chameleons still have some value, because you can play with them again if you buy more chameleons, but again you don't do that in the maths problem)
13:46:52 <b_jonas> As for toy manufacturers, this Pokemon Go game that everyone is talking about, is this compatible with other pokemon video games in the sense that you can transfer pokemon to or from Pokemon Go?
13:47:36 <mroman> no
13:47:39 <mroman> you can't
13:47:57 <b_jonas> Ok.
13:48:58 <FireFly> It's really just pokemon-branded glorified geocaching, similarly to how Ingress sorta was too (but in a different way and without the pokemon theme)
13:49:10 <b_jonas> That seems a bit uncharacteristic for a Pokemon video game, but maybe that will change later.
13:49:27 <b_jonas> FireFly: won't it still have pokemon battles or something?
13:49:54 <FireFly> No idea, maybe?
13:50:06 <fizzie> Ingress was from the same developers, right?
13:50:09 <FireFly> Yes
13:53:32 <b_jonas> Apparently there are battles (fights)
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14:05:24 <zzo38> Apparently the battle implementation is like a proper kind of pokemon game though, it is too simplified and differences as far as I have been told
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14:32:52 <myname> the battles are boing
14:32:57 <myname> and no pvp
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14:33:27 <myname> you basically tap your opponent to death
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14:47:59 <izabera> you can dodge
14:48:11 <b_jonas> "you basically tap your opponent to death" => sometimes older pokemon games look like that too
14:48:39 <b_jonas> zzo38: I wonder if they're going to roll some of the features, and possibly even a story, later
14:48:46 <b_jonas> I mean, it's a young game, and can be updated later
14:49:38 <b_jonas> Hmm. Apparently that game doesn't have trading yet.
14:54:25 <FireFly> <b_jonas> "you basically tap your opponent to death" => sometimes older pokemon games look like that too ← https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgcZP-uv60A#t=2h0m35s e.g.
14:54:39 <FireFly> (top-left screen)
14:55:28 <b_jonas> FireFly: yes, like that
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15:04:57 <myname> it is worse
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16:38:19 <int-e> b_jonas: it turns out that the random strategy is optimal for mroman's number game... if you think of the players as interacting to create a permutation pi mapping the first player's numbers to the second player's numbers, note that you still get a random permutation if the first player gets to specify which value of the permutation to fix next... and the scoring only depends on the resulting...
16:38:25 <int-e> ...permutation (pi(i) is compared to i, for all possible i).
16:40:19 <int-e> (and it was hard to find the right angle on this... I actually wrote a program that does the brute force computation trying to beat the random strategy... because I couldn't find the right angle)
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16:47:54 <b_jonas> int-e: hmm... that is probably the right explanation, yes
16:48:07 <b_jonas> int-e: thanks
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17:04:44 <b_jonas> Ah! So Urza's Destiny has a tight cycle of uncommons reprinted in Betrayers of Kamigawa that exile an object and then exile all cards with the same name from its controller's graveyard, hand and library. It consists of: Scour, Quash, Eradicate, Sowing Salt, Spliter.
17:05:05 <b_jonas> No wonder I didn't know about this.
17:05:15 <b_jonas> But it's good to know.
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17:19:10 <\oren\> b_jonas: so that means a deck with those in it is best fought by not having four of each card you want
17:21:07 <\oren\> hmmm although i dunno how I would decide which card is powerful enough that I want to get rid of it that badly
17:23:05 <\oren\> I suppose this is a good way to kill a combo deck
17:23:55 <zzo38> Some cards they have equivalent or nearly equivalent one with different name, so you can have the ones with different names instead of all same name.
17:28:59 <b_jonas> \oren\: I'm not sure. for most decks, the effect of searching is usually minimal.
17:32:29 <b_jonas> Anyway, because of meld cards, I was trying to search for cards that exile a permanent, follow it to exile, and then do something with the exiled card. Many cards just put the exiled card to the battlefield later.
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17:36:58 <b_jonas> The interesting cases I found are these: Otherworldly Journey returns cards with a +1/+1 counter (straightforward, and called out explicitly in the set faq). Gift of Immortality returns the exiled card and _later_ tries to return itself (from the graveyard? I dunno) tbf attached to that creature.
17:38:10 <b_jonas> Deicide (and probably no other card) follows a card to exile and looks for its subtype and name there, I dunno how that works for a melded permanent. Oubliette and a few other old cards exile a permanent together with its auras and then later return it tbf together with its auras.
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17:40:27 <b_jonas> (Yes, Gift of Immortality follows itself to the graveyard, in exactly the cases outlined in rule 400.7e.)
17:53:49 <b_jonas> OH! Wow
17:55:10 <b_jonas> Eldritch Moon has an aura called "Imprisoned in the Moon" that can overwrite a permanent's type to _land_, without overwriting its name. This makes some of the rules shenanigans easier to give examples to, and maybe even lets new types of rules stuff happen.
17:55:43 <zzo38> Maybe you can use with a candelabra?
17:57:14 <b_jonas> what candelabra?
17:57:25 <b_jonas> the Candelabrum of Invocation?
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17:59:40 <zzo38> No! The other kind! The kind with candles!
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18:01:49 <b_jonas> Oh, there's another interesting card about meld: Extraplanar Lens.
18:02:05 <b_jonas> (Also Invader Parasite.)
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18:24:33 <int-e> boo, the line translation tool doesn't work as usual on level 25 (possibly due to the undefined point bug?)
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18:43:57 <int-e> no, the reason is different... the tool is actually implemented in the corresponding .ggb data
18:50:48 <int-e> Oh well, at least it probably never worked differently.
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19:15:55 <int-e> okay, that's one more gold medal :)
19:16:58 <int-e> and a slightly surprising isosceles triangle
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19:35:07 <moon_> `` bash -c "SET y='() { :;}; echo vulnerable,y '; y; env x='() { :;}; echo vuln x'; x;"; echo y; y
19:35:48 <moon_> huh? is hackego here?
19:36:14 <HackEgo> bash: SET: command not found \ bash: y: command not found \ bash: x: command not found \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: y: command not found \ TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=2 \ HOME=/tmp \ _=/usr/bin/env \ x=() { :;
19:36:15 <int-e> HackEgo is slow.
19:36:28 <moon_> looky there
19:37:06 <moon_> someone discovered that playing around with hbot
19:38:22 <myname> http://gizmodo.com/sore-legs-become-pandemic-as-pokemon-go-players-acciden-1783402931 lol
19:38:27 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellshock_(software_bug)
19:38:37 <int-e> moon_: it's not a new thing
19:38:41 <moon_> hbot runs the LATEST version of debian tho
19:38:58 <moon_> shellshock should certainly be fixed by now
19:39:33 <moon_> `` bash --version
19:39:37 <HackEgo> GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> \ \ This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
19:40:53 <moon_> Where in that code does it fetch all the environment variables and print them then int-e?
19:41:53 <moon_> seshell shock is code injection
19:42:01 <moon_> *shellshock is code injection
19:42:08 <moon_> not 'get all the mem variables!'
19:42:14 <int-e> `` env foo=bar
19:42:16 <HackEgo> TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/env \ foo=bar
19:42:40 <moon_> oh the env command
19:42:41 <moon_> well then
19:42:42 <int-e> so I'm wrong, it's a failed attempt to test for shellshock
19:44:40 <int-e> `` env x='() { :; }; echo HI!' bash -c "echo THERE!"
19:44:42 <HackEgo> HI! \ THERE!
19:44:48 <int-e> that's how it works.
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19:46:35 <int-e> `` env x='() { echo "OOPS!"; }; echo HI!' bash -c 'echo "THERE!"; x'
19:46:36 <HackEgo> HI! \ THERE! \ OOPS!
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21:52:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Malbolge Unshackled]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47353&oldid=47303 * Malbranche * (+715) /* Sample programs */ cat program
21:54:12 <shachaf> Taneb: Was I rude just then in the other channel?
21:54:17 <shachaf> I didn't intend to be rude.
21:54:29 <Taneb> Not as rude as you've been in the past in some channels
21:54:56 <shachaf> :-(
21:55:11 <shachaf> Maybe I misunderstood the question.
21:55:33 <shachaf> How ought I not've been rude?
21:55:45 <shachaf> Also what past rudeness are you thinking of?
21:56:10 <Taneb> In this instance, googling from outside the channel and saying something like "I think so... hang on / Yes, https://github.com/xyncro/aether"
21:56:25 <Taneb> And I have a poor memory for specifics of rudeness I am afraid
21:56:34 <shachaf> Really? I think that's less helpful.
21:57:01 <wob_jonas> Hopefully not as rude as I sometimes am.
21:57:23 <shachaf> Is using @google to answer a question rude?
21:57:37 <Taneb> It seems so to me
21:57:43 <shachaf> If I paste the link directly, it implies that I have some previous knowledge of that project.
21:58:28 <wob_jonas> shachaf: that depends. Sometimes people ask tricky questions where if you search you get answers for a similar sounding but different question, in which case it might be rude.
21:58:49 <shachaf> Well, I searched first outside the channel to make sure it would find the right link.
21:59:07 <shachaf> But then pasting the link seems like the wrong thing to do.
21:59:19 <shachaf> Note that I think lmgtfy.com is quite rude.
21:59:26 <Taneb> shachaf, to me, using @google is like "I am SO SURE that this is SO OBVIOUS the first link on google is going to help you"
21:59:39 <shachaf> Was that link not helpful?
21:59:54 <Taneb> It was helpful, yes
22:00:07 <wob_jonas> How can you even be sure it will give the same answer in channel? Google can give different results for the same query depending on the interface language, search history, account, phase of moon, etc.
22:00:13 <Taneb> But I think by using @google you're coming across as more arrogant than you would by just pasting the link
22:00:27 <shachaf> Well, that's a problem.
22:00:38 <shachaf> Unless I actually am that arrogant, in which case maybe it's not a problem.
22:00:42 <shachaf> But I don't think I am.
22:01:17 <wob_jonas> The interface language has such a high effect that I specifically sometimes search from http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en and sometimes from http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=hu depending on what I want.
22:02:34 <shachaf> wob_jonas: I suspect phase of moon is the most significant.
22:02:55 <shachaf> "phase of moon" might mean something like "which data center served your query"
22:03:29 <shachaf> Taneb: I apologise for my rudeness.
22:03:48 <Taneb> It is OK
22:03:51 <shachaf> (You can tell it's serious when I spell "apologise" with an s.)
22:03:51 <Taneb> I forgive you
22:04:16 <shachaf> I'll reconsider my @google behavior
22:04:38 <shachaf> Taneb: Is part of the rudeness that it seems like I'm suggesting that you didn't even bother to look it up on the Google before asking?
22:04:55 <Taneb> I think so
22:05:41 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I actually think the interface language is the most significant
22:06:02 <shachaf> wob_jonas: Try running your search query in Tor and see if you get the same result.
22:07:01 <wob_jonas> Ok, maybe the interface language just used to be the most significant. Maybe search history is more significant these days.
22:08:15 <shachaf> Well, I do all my searches in Incognito Mode in Chrome, of course.
22:09:52 <wob_jonas> shachaf: do you think that's enough for Google not recognizing you enough to tilt the search results a little?
22:10:06 <shachaf> I don't know whether Google recognizes you.
22:10:12 <shachaf> But I expect they wouldn't let on.
22:10:15 <wob_jonas> It doesn't have to make a certain identification for some tuning.
22:13:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47354&oldid=47346 * Sesshomariu * (+90) /* Examples */
22:29:09 <\oren\> @duckduckgo befunge
22:29:09 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
22:29:13 <\oren\> boo
22:29:33 <\oren\> @bing befunge
22:29:33 <lambdabot> pong
22:29:39 <\oren\> ARGH
22:30:38 <shachaf> blatant favoritism on the part of the judges
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22:44:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Verbose]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47355&oldid=40476 * Poolala * (+13) What was 2013 me thinking
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22:51:37 <FireFly> @ddg
22:51:37 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: msg id do bug
22:51:40 <FireFly> aw
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22:59:10 <int-e> `? metasepia
22:59:33 <int-e> I believe that was our duckduckgo bot
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22:59:58 <int-e> HackEgo come on, you can do it!
23:01:06 <HackEgo> metasepia knew the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks.
23:01:20 <boily> int-ello.
23:01:26 <boily> one day I'll remetasepia hth
23:02:27 <FireFly> I never met a sepia
23:03:08 <boily> Firellofly.
23:03:20 <boily> I think that pun was already punned by shachaf...
23:03:35 <shachaf> HireFly
23:03:50 <int-e> boily: is the code buried or do you lack a place to host it?
23:04:28 <boily> it's very dusty, relied on outdated haskell libs, broke when 7.8 came out, stuff like that...
23:04:55 <myname> is FireHi considered valid?
23:05:37 <int-e> Haskell, hmm. I really need to update lambdabot.
23:06:09 <shachaf> FireFly: are you considered valid
23:07:08 <int-e> `? warranty
23:07:15 <HackEgo> warranty? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:07:47 * boily checks FireFly for UPCs or a VIN...
23:09:20 <FireFly> myname: works for me
23:09:33 <FireFly> I think I might be out of warranty
23:10:51 <int-e> . o O ( is this funny enough? `le/rn warranty/HackEgo comes without warranty, express or implied, and is unfit for any purpose, including the purpose of being unfit for anything. Its warranty has expired. )
23:12:45 <boily> it is self-referential enough. probably include a fixed point somewherer?
23:12:57 <boily> s/r\?/?/
23:14:28 <int-e> boily: I can't provide you with any fixed points; you'd just use them to move Earth out of orbit.
23:14:34 <int-e> `le/rn warranty/HackEgo comes without warranty, express or implied, and is unfit for any purpose, including the purpose of being unfit for anything. Its warranty has expired.
23:14:48 <HackEgo> Learned «warranty»
23:15:07 <int-e> `` cd wisdom; echo *fix*
23:15:12 <HackEgo> goofix prefixes
23:15:21 <int-e> `? goofix
23:15:24 <HackEgo> Goofix is an antropomorphic canine arithmetic notation.
23:15:36 <int-e> `culprits wisdom/goofix
23:15:50 <HackEgo> b_jonas
23:18:18 <\oren\> `unidecode ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:18:20 <HackEgo> ​[U+00AF MACRON] [U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS] [U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+005F LOW LINE] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0029 RIGHT PARENTHESIS] [U+002F SOLIDUS] [U+00AF MACRON]
23:18:45 <\oren\> LOW LINE!
23:19:48 <\oren\> Somehow my Mac displays it with a nonzero-width space between the degree sign and the low line
23:19:56 <pikhq> Huh, why the zero width space?
23:20:51 <\oren\> and why does mac osx's Terminal display it as a regular space?
23:21:35 <\oren\> hmm it might be an error in my font. I shall investigate soon.
23:21:42 <int-e> pikhq: probably something to do with myndzi
23:22:00 <int-e> ^celebrate
23:22:01 <fungot> \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
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23:22:13 <int-e> (but the script is no longer active)
23:22:22 <wob_jonas> WHAT? I don't remember that was me
23:22:28 <wob_jonas> maybe it was someone else with my nick
23:24:03 <\oren\> AHA!
23:24:11 <\oren\> yes, the error is in http://www.orenwatson.be/u8.h.htm
23:24:45 <\oren\> in u8.h I neglected to account for some zero width control characters
23:25:24 <int-e> oh, myndzi used color code in the dance replies? ... so glad I never saw that.
23:25:56 <\oren\> hence when the ttf sanitizer rewrites the character widths, it doesn't do those
23:28:01 <\oren\> and it seems that Terminal might rely on the font knowing the width of characters/?
23:29:07 <\oren\> Um... hmm I set my font to Times new Roman and that didn't fix the bug
23:30:28 <\oren\> I wonder what the CJKwidth of U-200B is
23:36:39 <\oren\> it's narrow. Maybe osx Terminal is doing this completely naively
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23:37:31 <\oren\>
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23:37:41 <\oren\> test
test
23:37:51 <\oren\> `unidecode t
t
23:37:53 <HackEgo> ​[U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+2028 LINE SEPARATOR] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T]
23:38:20 <\oren\> `unidecode t‪‫‬‭t
23:38:23 <HackEgo> ​[U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+202A LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING] [U+202B RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING] [U+202C POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING] [U+202D LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T]
23:38:57 <\oren\> what the hell?
23:39:22 <\oren\> Why is Terminal drawing three t's? there's only two!
23:39:38 <shachaf> There are only two.
23:39:45 <shachaf> Try resizing the window.
23:39:59 <\oren\> well in osx Terminal there are three
23:40:18 <\oren\> I resized it, there's still three
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23:41:47 <shachaf> I'm using the same program. Only two ts.
23:41:52 <shachaf> But the rest of the screen is messed up.
23:41:54 <shachaf> thanks oerjan
23:43:46 <\oren\> Wait now there're only two. wut
23:44:26 <\oren\> hold on I can fix this
23:47:20 <\oren\> `unicode 202D
23:47:21 <HackEgo> ​‭
23:47:28 <\oren\> `unicode 202D
23:47:30 <HackEgo> ​‭
23:47:32 <\oren\> there
23:47:55 <\oren\> `unicode 202C
23:47:57 <HackEgo> ​‬
23:48:03 <\oren\> asdasdasd
23:48:07 <\oren\> `unicode 202D
23:48:10 <HackEgo> ​‭
23:48:24 <shachaf> you're really messing up my terminal #scow
23:49:21 <\oren\> well at least now there shouldn't be anything in the RTL stack
23:49:39 <\oren\> because I popped it
23:50:36 <\oren\> I think working through a tmux and a screen negated the damage to my own terminal
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00:22:54 <quintopia> :\
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00:27:17 <quintopia> `le/rn fixed point theorem/The Fixed Point Theorem states that every planet P will have a point where Archimedes can stand to move it.
00:27:25 <HackEgo> Learned «fixed point theorem»
00:44:45 <hppavilion[1]> `? Peter II
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00:44:46 <HackEgo> Peter II? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:48:56 <quintopia> has anyone attempted to create an image compression algorithm based on the collage theorem?
00:49:56 <quintopia> oh wait, that's what fractal compression is
00:52:33 <FireFly> Huh, well I don't know the collage theorem or anything about the mathematics of fractals, but now I'm imagining something like byte-pair encoding but in two dimensions acting on the pixels of a raster image
00:57:47 <fizzie> I've just heard fractal compression is generally done using the graduate student algorithm.
00:59:42 <fizzie> Slightly related, listened to a talk on http://2016.ieeeicip.org/Papers/viewpapers.asp?papernum=1636 today out of curiosity.
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02:19:05 <oerjan> @tell boily yay i managed to decode your ev-l pun
02:19:05 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:21:04 <shachaf> an evangelical pun?
02:21:30 <oerjan> `? lkoen
02:21:38 <HackEgo> LKoen vivait en haut de la Tour Eiffel, mais il s'est préfixé d'un L et s'est envolé.
02:21:43 <oerjan> that one hth
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03:12:05 <oerjan> ooh someone made a Malbolge Unshackled program
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03:22:00 <oerjan> `? warranty
03:22:05 <HackEgo> HackEgo comes without warranty, express or implied, and is unfit for any purpose, including the purpose of being unfit for anything. Its warranty has expired.
03:23:25 <oerjan> `slwd warranty//s/.*\./\U&/
03:23:31 <HackEgo> wisdom/warranty//HACKEGO COMES WITHOUT WARRANTY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AND IS UNFIT FOR ANY PURPOSE, INCLUDING THE PURPOSE OF BEING UNFIT FOR ANYTHING. ITS WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED.
03:23:35 <oerjan> damn
03:23:50 <oerjan> `revert
03:24:30 <shachaf> there needs to be a preview version of sled
03:24:36 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
03:24:48 <shachaf> `` sed 's/.*?\./\U&/' wisdom/warranty
03:24:50 <HackEgo> HackEgo comes without warranty, express or implied, and is unfit for any purpose, including the purpose of being unfit for anything. Its warranty has expired.
03:24:56 * oerjan wonders if the repository has become too large. Gregor used to prune history occasionally.
03:25:09 <shachaf> `` sed 's/[^\.]+/\U&/' wisdom/warranty
03:25:11 <HackEgo> HackEgo comes without warranty, express or implied, and is unfit for any purpose, including the purpose of being unfit for anything. Its warranty has expired.
03:25:18 <shachaf> `` sed 's/[^\.]*/\U&/' wisdom/warranty
03:25:19 <oerjan> `slwd warranty//s/.*\. /\U&/
03:25:21 <HackEgo> HACKEGO COMES WITHOUT WARRANTY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AND IS UNFIT FOR ANY PURPOSE, INCLUDING THE PURPOSE OF BEING UNFIT FOR ANYTHING. Its warranty has expired.
03:25:23 <HackEgo> wisdom/warranty//HACKEGO COMES WITHOUT WARRANTY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AND IS UNFIT FOR ANY PURPOSE, INCLUDING THE PURPOSE OF BEING UNFIT FOR ANYTHING. Its warranty has expired.
03:27:33 <oerjan> oh there were only those two periods. i was wondering how yours could work.
03:28:24 <shachaf> What should the preview version of sled be called?
03:28:28 <shachaf> slep/slwp?
03:28:35 <shachaf> Or should it be indicated by a triple /?
03:28:40 <shachaf> That would be the only sensible thing.
03:28:46 <oerjan> aaaaaaaaa
03:29:18 <oerjan> shachaf: a triple / is not really appropriate when it's not in the command name.
03:29:33 <oerjan> also, i think a sed command can start with /
03:29:38 <shachaf> Oh, you can put it in the command name. Good idea.
03:29:50 <shachaf> I guess that would only work for le///rn.
03:29:57 <shachaf> But sled ought to be renamed to s/ed anyway
03:30:12 <oerjan> shachaf: except for that requiring an extra toplevel directory.
03:30:28 <shachaf> `` mkdir s; ln -s ../bin/sled s/ed; ln -s ../bin/slwd s/wd
03:30:33 <HackEgo> mkdir: cannot create directory `s': File exists
03:30:40 <shachaf> `` ls s
03:30:43 <HackEgo> ed \ wd
03:30:56 <shachaf> `help
03:30:56 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
03:31:10 <oerjan> shachaf: probably just some twice-running noise
03:31:30 <oerjan> `hoag s
03:31:38 <HackEgo> ​<shachaf> ` mkdir s; ln -s ../bin/sled s/ed; ln -s ../bin/slwd s/wd
03:32:09 <shachaf> why do you put up with command names like "hoag" and "le//rn"
03:32:12 <shachaf> these are absurd
03:32:15 <oerjan> shachaf: this ruins the sled pun btw
03:32:25 <shachaf> true
03:32:28 <shachaf> tdnh
03:32:52 <shachaf> scrap it
03:32:55 <shachaf> `` rm -r s/
03:33:04 <HackEgo> No output.
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03:34:27 <shachaf> `le/rn guarantee/HackEgo is guaranteed merchantable.
03:34:31 <HackEgo> Learned «guarantee»
03:35:26 <oerjan> `learn Merchantable adj. Capable of being chanted by mermaids.
03:35:30 <HackEgo> Learned 'merchantable': Merchantable adj. Capable of being chanted by mermaids.
03:36:02 <oerjan> also, food ->
03:36:04 <shachaf> `sedlast s/.$/ and fit for a particular purpose, which Taneb invented./
03:36:12 <HackEgo> wisdom/merchantable//Merchantable adj. Capable of being chanted by mermaids and fit for a particular purpose, which Taneb invented.
03:36:16 <shachaf> oops
03:36:18 <shachaf> `revert
03:36:20 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
03:36:24 <shachaf> rice condition
03:36:39 <shachaf> Taneb: Is attributing Tanebventions to you rude?
03:37:13 <tswett> `? sex
03:37:15 <HackEgo> Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on the author's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex.
03:39:55 <tswett> So I was wondering who created that wisdom entry for sex.
03:40:07 <tswett> And so I did a Google search in an attempt to find the answer.
03:40:11 <tswett> Apparently I did.
03:40:47 <tswett> That was pretty clever of me.
03:58:29 <oerjan> past selves often are.
03:59:56 <shachaf> Really? My past self has a lot to answer to.
04:00:12 <shachaf> For example there was a thing my past self quoted in this channel.
04:00:33 <shachaf> It's quite embarrassing. I only realized the meaning of the quote (which I took from Vonnegut) some months or years later.
04:00:46 <shachaf> I try not to think about it because of how embarrassing it was.
04:01:19 <oerjan> my past self probably despised you for it. fortunately my present self has entirely forgotten about it hth
04:01:51 <shachaf> It was pretty bad.
04:01:58 <shachaf> I hope you didn't despise me for it.
04:02:29 <oerjan> obviously i did, if i ever noticed it.
04:02:53 <shachaf> I'm sure you noticed it.
04:03:04 <shachaf> It was the sort of thing that was obvious to everyone but me.
04:03:05 <oerjan> shocking
04:06:33 <oerjan> `? goofix
04:06:36 <HackEgo> Goofix is an antropomorphic canine arithmetic notation.
04:07:39 <shachaf> `cwlprits goofix
04:07:52 <HackEgo> b_jonas
04:08:00 <shachaf> are you sure it's not a disney/asterix crossover comic character hth
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04:13:55 <oerjan> @tell int-e <int-e> oh, myndzi used color code in the dance replies? ... so glad I never saw that. <-- i never saw any color, although it got messed up in the logs. i vaguely recall there was some explanation for them.
04:13:55 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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06:24:01 <hppavilion[1]> `? cardinal
06:24:25 <HackEgo> cardinal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
06:28:26 <lambda-11235> Untyped lambda calculus with a FFI.
06:34:05 <shachaf> You like lambda calculus? I prefer shachaf calculus.
06:36:41 <lifthrasiir> ramuda calculus
06:37:44 <lambda-11235> My favorite kind of lambda calculus is Martin-Lof's lambda calculus.
06:43:14 <shachaf> i prefer sheepda calculus
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06:55:17 <Sgeo> For some reason all the Pokemon Go stuff makes me want to try Pokemon TCG
06:55:25 <Sgeo> Played it once with a friend, barely remember it
06:58:12 <Sgeo> Or I should get back into Prismata, or Go, or
06:58:26 <Sgeo> Or build that rocket I haven't built yet
06:59:12 <shachaf> Weren't we going to play Prismata?
06:59:31 <Sgeo> I should try to get gud at Prismata first
06:59:42 <shachaf> I'm not gud at it.
07:01:58 <Sgeo> shachaf, compared to me, yes
07:02:00 <Sgeo> you are
07:02:58 <shachaf> How would you know?
07:03:05 <shachaf> I often lose to Master Bot.
07:03:52 <Sgeo> We've played against each other 3 times
07:03:59 <Sgeo> And I haven't practiced much since
07:05:00 <Sgeo> I should sleep
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16:25:08 <\oren\> the japanese name of the letter Ξ is hilarious because of the potential puns
16:27:35 <Taneb> That looks like a Xi to me
16:28:06 <Taneb> But I presume it is a Japanese character also
16:28:09 <Taneb> What is its name?
16:28:15 <Taneb> `unicode Ξ
16:28:38 <HackEgo> U+039E GREEK CAPITAL LETTER XI \ UTF-8: ce 9e UTF-16BE: 039e Decimal: &#926; \ Ξ (ξ) \ Lowercase: U+03BE \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
16:28:48 <Taneb> I thought it was a Xi
16:28:51 <Taneb> Mystery solved
16:41:23 <b_jonas> \oren\: um, what's the Japanese name?
16:51:48 <\oren\> 'kusai'
16:52:20 <\oren\> Which is the same pronounciation as the adjective "stinky"
16:53:53 <\oren\> http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?kind=all&MT=%E3%81%8F%E3%81%95%E3%81%84&SH=1&IE=UTF-8
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17:10:49 <b_jonas> "Time remaining: Unknown (estimated)" -- the progress dialog is even estimating that they don't know the time
17:13:56 <b_jonas> ah, brilliant. A set of medium sized but deep XML documents quoted as CDATA in a large XML.
17:14:11 <b_jonas> (deep as in they have lots of elements, not just text)
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17:17:27 <FireFly> The joy of SOAP envelopes?
17:18:57 <adu> ew
17:19:06 <adu> soap is evil
17:20:38 <adu> b_jonas: deep like this? https://github.com/andydude/droxtools/blob/master/drox2python/t/test.drox
17:23:01 <b_jonas> adu: no. the xml text is in a CDATA
17:23:33 <adu> ew
17:23:41 <b_jonas> adu: that just looks like mathml embedded in xhtml as proper xml elements, that's more or less normal
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17:28:44 <FireFly> Yeah, that's actually sensible
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17:53:16 <Deewiant> lambdabot: ping
17:54:25 <shachaf> lambdabot: @ping
17:54:25 <lambdabot> pong
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17:56:00 <Deewiant> @tell Vorpal Haven't touched Mycology in quite some time. I find your bug to be a very curious one, I would've assumed that any library would use proleptic Gregorian by default... As such sure, Mycology could/should test it. Not sure if I'm going to bother with it in the near future though. :-P
17:56:00 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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20:12:18 <prooftechnique> hppavilion[1]: What weird thing are you doing now?
20:12:38 <hppavilion[1]> prooftechnique: ...wat?
20:12:43 <hppavilion[1]> hppavilion[1]: I'm reading smbc
20:12:56 <prooftechnique> You're just usually up to something unusual, so I figured it was reasonable to check :
20:12:58 <prooftechnique> *:D
20:13:24 <hppavilion[1]> prooftechnique: Ah
20:13:25 <hppavilion[1]> Not ATM
20:15:18 <hppavilion[1]> ...huh
20:15:35 <hppavilion[1]> I assumed the Kübler-Ross model was made by two people (Kübler and Ross)
20:15:58 <hppavilion[1]> Apparently it was just some swiss chick named Elisabeth Kübler-Ross
20:20:47 <prooftechnique> Well, I suppose there was no predicting that
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20:25:22 <shachaf> `? dmm
20:25:27 <HackEgo> dmm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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20:25:57 <shachaf> `welcome zzo38
20:26:02 <HackEgo> zzo38: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:26:06 <shachaf> `` rgrep -l zalgo bin
20:26:16 <HackEgo> bin/zalgoverload \ bin/zalgoerjan \ bin/zalgreet
20:26:23 <shachaf> `zalgreet zzo38
20:26:31 <HackEgo> z็̹z̯̀o͇̿3̗͢8̍͗:̎ͦ Ì·Í¢W͎͕e̮̎l̠̉c̖͡o̍͜m̞͡ȇ͇ ͆͘t̳͗o̶ͧ ̘ͦt͆̂h̝͟e̺ͤ ͆͛i̞̓n͇̅t҉ͨė̝r̬̹n̰͔a̹̒tͪ͌ḭͯo̙ͬņͬa͑͂lͬ͡ ͈͛h̰̳ủ͎b͍̋ ͣͥf͈̈́o̹̞r̯͈ ̹҉ȇ̂s͉͏o̷̘ṯ͐e͒̽r҉͛iͯ͠c̥ͯ ͍̿pͬ͢r͉̕o̟̣ģ̓r͚̳a͗̅mͤ́m̰͒ĩͅń̛g̰̍ ̓ͅl̺̀aͥ̔n̬͂g̲͠ůÌ
20:26:39 <shachaf> great
20:26:43 <shachaf> now my terminal is messed up
20:26:47 <shachaf> and i have no one but myself to blame
20:27:03 <Taneb> shachaf, you should, like, move to the UK and blame the immigrants
20:27:10 <Taneb> Actually you can probably do that in the US as well
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20:31:26 <shachaf> Taneb: The English, the English, the English are best / I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest.
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20:33:14 <hppavilion[1]> WTF am I reading
20:33:14 <hppavilion[1]> https://www.nationstates.net/nation=empire_of_narnia
20:33:42 <shachaf> And crossing the Channel, one cannot say much / Of French and the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch / The Germans are German, the Russians are red, / And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed!
20:33:46 <shachaf> damning words
20:33:54 <shachaf> oops, should i not say that in here
20:34:14 <Taneb> `words
20:35:04 <HackEgo> angw
20:35:40 <shachaf> HackEgo: i am underwhelmed
20:35:45 <Taneb> That's only one word I want my money back
20:35:58 <shachaf> Taneb: Should I aspire to be less rude?
20:36:32 <Taneb> shachaf, I think for pretty much everyone that is a worthy aspiration
20:36:44 <shachaf> Well, sometimes rudeness is warranted.
20:36:48 <shachaf> @wn rude
20:36:49 <lambdabot> *** "rude" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
20:36:49 <lambdabot> rude
20:36:49 <lambdabot> adj 1: socially incorrect in behavior; "resentment flared at
20:36:49 <lambdabot> such an unmannered intrusion" [syn: {ill-mannered}, {bad-
20:36:49 <lambdabot> mannered}, {rude}, {unmannered}, {unmannerly}]
20:36:51 <lambdabot> [15 @more lines]
20:37:03 <shachaf> i was looking for an ant, not a syn
20:37:53 <shachaf> And then I was going to say that it's not the end of all things, but that phrase doesn't even make sense.
20:39:34 <prooftechnique> `zalgoerjan
20:39:41 <HackEgo> o̗ͧé̒r̙̤j̟̯a̢͉n̛̯ ̙͊
20:39:48 <prooftechnique> Hmm. I was expecting worse
20:43:59 <shachaf> `cat bin/zalgoerjan
20:44:00 <HackEgo> echo -n "oerjan $@" | zalgo
20:44:04 <shachaf> `hoag bin/zalgo
20:44:10 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> sled bin/zalgo//1c#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ <tswett> revert \ <tswett> rm bin -r \ <oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <Jafet> mv bin/zalgo{2,} \ <ais523> revert 87c64ef250a0 \ <ais523> revert 3 \ <elliott> revert 1492 \ <FreeFull> revert 4 \ <shachaf> mv zalgo bin/
20:44:26 <shachaf> Well, Jafet overwrote the old zalgo.
20:44:47 <shachaf> So no wonder.
20:45:01 <shachaf> I can't be held responsible for zalgo inconsistencies.
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23:33:12 <quintopia> where is the suomi constituency
23:33:54 <hppavilion[2]> quintopia: They're a member of the Silent Majority, aren't they?
23:35:00 <quintopia> so silent
23:35:35 <quintopia> til finland is the most promiscuous country
23:36:04 <hppavilion[2]> quintopia: THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME THIS
23:36:10 <hppavilion[2]> I WILL NOW BE BUYING PLANE TICKETS
23:36:12 <hppavilion[2]> GOODBYE
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23:37:21 <quintopia> nz is second place, and is unusual in that the women are more promiscuous than men, having three times the global average number of partners
23:38:11 <hppavilion[1]> Huh.
23:38:21 * hppavilion[1] should have accounted for gender differences
23:38:38 <hppavilion[1]> Now I need to craigslist these plane tickets...
23:40:37 <hppavilion[1]> Augustine of Hippo: A real Catholic figure
23:48:59 <Phantom_Hoover> is that a pun
2016-07-13
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00:41:54 <oerjan> <shachaf> oops, should i not say that in here <-- it's ok, it only counts when directed at persons hth
00:45:43 <oerjan> in fact ais523's problem isn't afaik with swearing in itself, but with the _literal_ meaning of the phrase in question.
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00:54:08 <prooftechnique> oerjan: What's your log reading system? Do you just set some time aside to catch up, or do you have a robot that tells you what to respond to?
00:55:15 <oerjan> usually i open the logs when i log on to irc... how long it takes to read depends.
00:55:34 <oerjan> although today was pretty fast, no one said much.
00:56:53 <oerjan> i don't think a robot would help much.
00:57:09 <oerjan> although i do start by searching for my nick.
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01:25:09 <shachaf> Goodstein's theorem is pretty neat.
01:25:17 <shachaf> How come no one ever told me about it?
01:25:24 <izabera> i was about to
01:32:55 <oerjan> shachaf: wat, you mean you didn't notice when someone here implemented it in System F subset of haskell?
01:33:14 <shachaf> I don't remember that.
01:33:18 <shachaf> Maybe I wasn't paying attention.
01:33:21 <shachaf> Who was it?
01:33:37 <oerjan> well that _i_ can never remember.
01:33:59 <oerjan> (as in, i remember not remembering last it was asked, but i still don't.)
01:37:13 <shachaf> oerjan: "amortized" hth
01:37:58 <oerjan> shachaf: it was int-e https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/goodstein.hs
01:39:53 <oerjan> fortunately codu remembered.
01:40:41 <shachaf> oerjan: Oh, now I remember.
01:40:52 <shachaf> For the Turing machine thing.
01:40:56 <oerjan> your memory has been amortized hth
01:41:09 <oerjan> shachaf: i'm pretty sure it was earlier than that.
01:41:37 <oerjan> or at least, independent to start with.
01:41:39 <shachaf> Oh
01:41:51 <shachaf> Well, I'm typing on my phone.
01:42:05 <shachaf> I didn't click the link or anything.
01:42:13 <oerjan> shocking
01:42:20 <oerjan> phones are scow
01:47:39 <shachaf> oerjan: I should've gotten a clue when you said "codu".
01:48:49 <oerjan> r.i.p. glogbot
02:22:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:12Me21]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47356&oldid=47228 * 12Me21 * (+869)
02:23:38 <tswett> I notice that whenever someone says the word "amortized" hth, they say "hth" immediately afterward.
02:24:09 <shachaf> `? amortized
02:24:32 <HackEgo> An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember.
02:25:05 <prooftechnique> That definitely h'd
02:31:45 <shachaf> oerjan tends to do that
02:31:53 <shachaf> he's the biggest h of them all
02:31:55 <shachaf> the head h
02:32:22 <shachaf> Cale should've told me about Goodstein's theorem.
02:33:01 <Cale> shachaf: When should I have told you about this theorem?
02:33:09 <shachaf> In the past.
02:33:19 <shachaf> Later is too late.
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02:37:24 <Cale> Yeah, natural numbers are weird
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02:42:10 <oerjan> bohily
02:42:32 <boily> hellørjan
02:47:33 <boily> @massages-loud
02:47:33 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 28m 27s ago: yay i managed to decode your ev-l pun
02:47:38 <boily> :D
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02:58:53 <shachaf> Cale: What's weird about natural numbers?
03:02:32 <Cale> Well, Goodstein's theorem is independent of PA, and while it holds in a set theoretical model of the naturals, there are other models of PA in which it fails.
03:03:01 <shachaf> Oh, the Peano naturals are weird.
03:03:04 <shachaf> @quote shachaf peano
03:03:04 <lambdabot> shachaf says: The trouble with peano arithmetic is that it stops at 88.
03:03:54 <Cale> Well, we almost shouldn't say "the (Peano) naturals"
03:04:45 <Cale> "What is a natural number?" is morally similar to "What is a vector?"
03:05:47 <Cale> Or "What is a group element?"
03:09:57 <shachaf> copumpkin: Pooches?!
03:14:42 * oerjan swats shachaf fortissimo -----###
03:20:37 <pikhq> Pooch arithmetic.
03:20:57 <shachaf> pikhq: How's poochin'?
03:21:04 <pikhq> Pooching!
03:21:27 <pikhq> Looking to get confirmation tomorrow, but I'm likely moving up to SF at this rate.
03:23:24 <shachaf> sptm
03:24:54 <tswett> There are lots of theories that can define the natural numbers.
03:25:29 <tswett> All of which are equivalent in second-order logic, I think, but not in weaker logics.
03:26:57 <shachaf> spoooooky theories
03:27:32 <tswett> Say.
03:28:00 <tswett> Is a natural number just a natural transformation from the identity functor on the category of commutative monoids to itself?
03:32:13 <shachaf> Why?
03:32:50 <tswett> Why do I ask? Oh, just curious.
03:33:44 <shachaf> Why is it?
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04:54:53 <shachaf> int-e: This "fundamental sequence of an ordinal" representation is odd.
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05:55:07 <oerjan> shachaf: xkcd is very poochy today hth
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08:01:01 <int-e> shachaf: yes, yes it is.
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09:43:24 <b_jonas> I so wish GIMP had an interface where I can select three or four source points and three or four corresponding destination points on the image with the GUI, and then it does an affine or perspective transform according to those. The current perspective tool is so difficult to use.
10:06:59 <fizzie> I'm sure you could Script-Fu it.
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11:44:14 <boily> `wisdom
11:44:42 <HackEgo> ciol//ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming language that has insults as commands.
11:45:17 <hppavilion[1]> https://www.google.com/search?q=is+a+duck+a+fish&biw=1536&bih=731&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI7eHtoPDNAhUN5mMKHQUWAiMQ_AUIBigB is terrifying
11:48:20 <boily> hppavellon[1].
11:48:50 <hppavilion[1]> boily: BLASPHEMY
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13:52:35 <LKoen> I just found a brainfuck derivative with no esolang page!!!
13:52:36 <LKoen> https://github.com/ryanfox/brainfunction
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13:55:04 <Taneb> LKoen, there's quite a lot out there
13:55:28 <lifthrasiir> heh, its way to call functions reminds me of ETA
13:55:33 <Taneb> I can't believe Freefall has chapters
13:56:15 <LKoen> Proposal: a) set up a brainfuck derivatives wiki b) move all brainfuck derivative pages from esolangs to brainfuck derivatives wiki c) repertory the brainfuck derivatives that are out there on the brainfuck derivative wiki
13:56:22 <LKoen> step (b) is the most important
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13:58:57 <gamemanj> Taneb: Well, now you've confused me...
13:59:11 <gamemanj> I can't tell if you mean "Freefall" as in the webcomic or "Freefall" as in a brainfuck derivative. Both are valid in context.
14:00:00 <Taneb> gamemanj, the former
14:00:19 <Taneb> gamemanj, on Monday, it announced "End of chapter 1"
14:00:25 <Taneb> It's been going since 1998
14:05:52 <lifthrasiir> the chapter 1, which is also the final?
14:06:09 <lifthrasiir> like the (now dropped) major version of GNU Emacs
14:07:42 <Taneb> lifthrasiir, it's now on chapter 2
14:08:16 <Taneb> With the note "I promise it will take less than 18 years"
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14:10:03 <lifthrasiir> Taneb: is there a publicized decay factor
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14:11:55 <Taneb> lifthrasiir, no
14:11:57 <Taneb> Not as of yet
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14:19:15 <int-e> okay, I cheated on the last two medals of the euclid game (looked at the comments and found solutions posted there...) I was too stupid for level 14 but it's a safe bet that I'd never have found the 10 primitive move solution for level 25.
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14:35:39 <b_jonas> int-e: I did cheat on one medal (I'm very far from the last though)
14:36:16 <b_jonas> int-e: I have a question though. How do I get the second medal when solutions with the least number of primitives and least number of steps use the same number of steps?
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14:41:10 <int-e> b_jonas: you need to find a different solution that uses a non-primitive tool
14:41:38 <b_jonas> like replacing the ray tool with the parallel line tool... ugly
14:42:09 <b_jonas> int-e: and how do I get the second medal on level 1 where there's no non-primitive tool available yet?
14:44:46 <b_jonas> oh, maybe those two levels don't have a second gold medal, which is why there are only 50 gold medals?
14:44:58 <b_jonas> how do you even get your score?
14:45:17 <b_jonas> is it the number of gold medals, or the number of medals where the gold medal from each level counts only at most once?
14:45:38 <b_jonas> the help at http://euclidthegame.com/Medal/ says "From Level 2 and onwards, you can get two different medals for a level. If you complete a level using only the 5 primitive tools, you get a different medal, than if you complete the level using the new tools."
14:45:47 <b_jonas> ok, so how do I get the score?
14:47:18 <int-e> score?
14:47:53 <b_jonas> int-e: the score that's displayed in the high score list
14:48:03 <b_jonas> and the top few players have 50 of it
14:48:30 <int-e> it's the number of gold medals
14:49:04 <int-e> 1 each for tutorial and level 1; 2 each for all other levels = 50 total
14:50:15 <int-e> fwiw, in both levels that have the same number of primitive and non-primitive moves I did something with the equilateral triangle tool.
14:50:21 <b_jonas> ok, thanks
14:50:36 <b_jonas> wait, are there only two such levels?
14:50:40 <b_jonas> I thought there were much more
14:51:24 <int-e> oh sorry, level 25 is one as well
14:51:26 <b_jonas> level 2 (segment midpoint) is one of them, and that's an easy one
14:51:35 <int-e> but there finding the primitive solution is just too hard
14:51:40 <b_jonas> then there's level 4
14:52:00 <int-e> levels 2 and 4 are the ones I had in mind.
14:52:01 <b_jonas> nah, on level 25 even finding a 10 step non-primitive solution seems hard enough for me
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15:01:54 <b_jonas> `random-card
15:02:10 <HackEgo> Zoetic Cavern \ Land \ {T}: Add {C} to your mana pool. \ Morph {2} (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.) \ FUT-U, CMD-U, C14-U, C15-U
15:02:14 <b_jonas> `random-color
15:02:18 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-color: not found
15:07:00 <int-e> Okay, I did the calculation and that primitive solution on level 25 *does* work. Surprise! I still find it hard to believe...
15:08:41 <b_jonas> int-e: the difficulty is that you need to spend 5 of the steps to draw the five pentagon side segments, for which you already need their endpoints, and it's very likely that those segment steps don't help anything else; and I need three steps to find the other three vertexes after I found one, or at least two steps if I set up the previous steps very carefully.
15:09:08 <b_jonas> So if I only had 10 steps, then I'd have at most 3 steps to do anything else.
15:09:25 <int-e> b_jonas: no comment
15:11:37 <b_jonas> Let me see how few (not necessarily primitive) steps I can do if I try to optimize my existing slow solution a bit
15:12:07 <int-e> my progression (all tools) was something like 15... 12... 11... oh!... 10.
15:15:47 <b_jonas> What I just done is 15 moves.
15:15:53 <b_jonas> I should be able to reduce it by 1 or 2 somehow
15:26:09 <b_jonas> ah yes! got it in 12 moves
15:26:19 <b_jonas> by basically modifying the same construction
15:26:46 <b_jonas> and using the non-collapsing compass carefully
15:30:05 <b_jonas> here's my construction => http://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/pentagon.png
15:31:00 <b_jonas> it's totally not obvious from that drawing what actually happened, you have to look for which two named points give the radius of the circle around E through F
15:33:53 <b_jonas> no wait, that circle has the same radius as the initial circle, so that one is easy
15:34:22 <b_jonas> the tricky circle is the one around C that passes through E
15:35:24 <b_jonas> also, this shows that you only need one (not two) extra moves to find the rest of the four vertexes, if you arrange that the move that finds the first vertex also finds another one next to it
15:36:08 <b_jonas> but for a 10 step solution, I'd probably need some actual new trick, not just optimizations of this
15:37:04 <b_jonas> no wait
15:37:07 <b_jonas> let me try this
15:41:14 <b_jonas> YES
15:41:18 <b_jonas> I got 11 without any new trick
15:41:28 <b_jonas> and it also uses somewhat less non-primitives
15:41:30 <b_jonas> but stil uses some
15:44:38 <b_jonas> 11 move solution: http://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/pentagon.png
15:44:54 <b_jonas> but 10 probably still needs some clever trick
15:51:54 <b_jonas> the angle bisector tool apparently can be used on either three points or on two segments (or rays)
15:52:10 <b_jonas> in the first case, it draws a line, in the second, it draws two lines
15:52:37 <b_jonas> maybe on some problem, this could be abused to get lines quicker than with the ray or parallel or orthogonal tools, but I don't think it helps here
15:52:37 <int-e> odd.
15:52:52 <int-e> note that the tools may vary from level to level
15:53:07 <b_jonas> yes
15:53:07 <int-e> (the parallel line tool does... it's different from the other levels in level 25)
15:53:13 <b_jonas> wait what
15:53:25 <b_jonas> don't they vary only through the first 15 levels or something?
15:53:39 <b_jonas> after which they're like fixed?
15:53:43 <int-e> on other levels it takes three points; on level 25 it takes a line and a point.
15:54:06 <b_jonas> wtf
15:54:23 <b_jonas> this is evil
15:54:42 <int-e> each level is its own .ggb file and the non-primitive tools are implmented as part of those.
15:54:56 <b_jonas> well ok, but still
15:55:20 <int-e> presumably based on templates that are shipped with geogebra, but the author used at least two different versions of geogebra to create the levels.
15:55:28 <b_jonas> ah
15:55:29 <int-e> so much fun!
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15:55:44 <b_jonas> are the primitives at least the same everywhere?
15:55:59 <int-e> I believe they are...
15:56:02 <b_jonas> and have you reported this as a bug?
15:56:14 <LKoen> is there a way to store my results?
15:56:22 <LKoen> so I don't have to redo every level from level 1 every time
15:56:29 <int-e> I have not, the github repo looks dead
15:56:33 <b_jonas> LKoen: they all take so few steps
15:56:45 <b_jonas> so I don't see why it would be worth
15:57:43 <int-e> LKoen: it's using the javascript storage api to keep your scores.
15:58:32 <int-e> b_jonas: anyway, for 10 moves you have to change your solution less than you probably imagine.
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16:02:22 <b_jonas> int-e: well sure, I'm reasonably certain that the last 5 steps are correct, and I think probably step 1 and the step before the last 5 is right too, so I only need to change 5 steps to 4 other steps, that's less than helf :-)
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16:05:03 <b_jonas> the non-primitive tools are so non-intuitive
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16:09:33 <Taneb> Is there a term for a relation which is transitive, symmetric, but irreflexive?
16:09:46 <b_jonas> Taneb: maybe a full ordering?
16:10:07 <Taneb> b_jonas, those generally aren't symmetric
16:10:20 <b_jonas> ah, sorry
16:10:21 <b_jonas> um
16:10:27 <Taneb> If I was making up terms, I'd consider "strict equivalence", but that feels wrong
16:15:33 <int-e> Taneb: it's called an empty relation
16:16:20 <Taneb> int-e, oh, that's a good point
16:17:35 <LKoen> b_jonas: I'm stuck at level 23, actually
16:17:44 <Taneb> What I was thinking of, was a relation which is irreflexive but whose reflexive closure is an equivalence
16:18:15 <b_jonas> LKoen: there are lots of levels where I haven't got a gold medal yet
16:18:30 <LKoen> b_jonas: I almost got every gold medal once
16:18:35 <LKoen> (well, up to level 22)
16:18:49 <LKoen> but since it wasn't saved, I won't do it again
16:19:47 <int-e> LKoen: you can navigate to a level directly by URL, without solving the previous ones
16:20:03 <int-e> LKoen: just in case you're still interested in levels 23 to 25.
16:20:31 <b_jonas> int-e: yes, and you can even navigate directly to level 25, solve it, and you get a message lying that you solved all levels
16:20:39 <int-e> nice.
16:22:04 <LKoen> int-e: .... I wonder why I did not realise that sooner
16:22:20 <b_jonas> it doesn't actually give you all silver medals though
16:22:24 <b_jonas> it just gives a stupid message
16:25:50 <LKoen> never mind, I found the solution
16:26:05 <LKoen> hmmmm
16:26:12 <LKoen> regular pentagon then
16:26:21 <LKoen> I have no idea how to do that
16:26:29 <LKoen> in fact I thought it was impossible with just a compass and a ruler
16:26:31 <b_jonas> LKoen: that one took me a lot of time too
16:26:38 <b_jonas> no, I knew it was possible
16:27:03 <LKoen> I distinctly remember reading an article about how it was impossible when I was ~11
16:27:03 <b_jonas> but I didn't have a sane solution that I could actually click in without doing like thirty steps which get impossible to follow on screen
16:27:11 <int-e> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TrigonometryAnglesPi5.html may give some inspiration.
16:27:33 <LKoen> I also know there's a poster in the math department main corridor at my university that explains how to do it
16:27:41 <LKoen> I thought it was a joke
16:27:45 <int-e> LKoen: 7-gon and 9-gon are impossible, for example...
16:28:37 <alercah> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon#Construction_of_a_regular_pentagon
16:28:42 <int-e> Gauss is famous for finding all n for which a regular n-gon can be constructed... namely, n = 2^k * p_1 * p_2 * ... * p_k where the p_i are distinct primes of the form 2^k+1.
16:29:05 <LKoen> int-e: thanks, that link is really helpful
16:29:24 <b_jonas> hehe
16:29:54 <int-e> (that's (2^k)+1... so Fermat primes: 3, 5, 17, 65537, and no other known one)
16:30:40 <int-e> hmpf, I used k for two different purposes... I hate it when that happens :)
16:31:10 <LKoen> oh come one don't tell me level 25 has the same bug as level 5
16:31:22 <int-e> unfortunately ... it does :/
16:32:02 <int-e> a comment says they went back to level 23 (which has a circle) and worked on their solution there...
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16:34:02 <LKoen> haha
16:34:15 <LKoen> woooo EUclid would be proud of le
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16:38:35 <int-e> HAHA https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Regular_257-gon_Using_Carlyle_Circle.gif
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16:59:29 <b_jonas> int-e: I think it might be possible to write a program to brute-force the primitives-only 10 step solution. I'm reasonably certain that if it's possible, then it's possible even if the last 5 steps are just drawing the 5 segments, and since the initial circle is already drawn, the 5 step can't find all 4 vertexes at the same time, so you need to have at least 2 vertices after 4 steps
17:00:45 <b_jonas> there are less than 10**9 possible first 4 steps, you have to enumerate each, and check if you find a vertex.
17:00:50 <b_jonas> it's not trivial, but possible to do.
17:01:27 <b_jonas> to get the vertexes, you only need to look for intersections with the initial cycle
17:01:47 <int-e> your analysis contains a minor but crucial flaw
17:02:06 <b_jonas> that means either the 4th step must be a line or circle that passes through 2 vertices, or the 3rd step already finds a vertex
17:02:18 <b_jonas> int-e: is it a bug in the program
17:02:19 <b_jonas> ?
17:02:22 <int-e> no
17:02:23 <b_jonas> in euclid that is
17:02:40 <b_jonas> I believe you can cheat and just give yourself a medal without solving anything, but that certainly doesn't count
17:02:51 <int-e> it's not a bug in the program
17:03:05 <b_jonas> int-e: is there really a 10 step all primitives solution?
17:03:14 <int-e> yes there is
17:03:18 <b_jonas> hmm
17:03:33 <int-e> (though it's quite incredible that this works)
17:03:35 <b_jonas> does the program allow me to draw a line for a side rather than the exact segment?
17:03:45 <int-e> yes it does
17:03:48 <b_jonas> ah
17:03:52 <b_jonas> then yes, that is a flaw
17:04:19 <int-e> hmm, I didn't think of considering that a bug
17:04:23 <b_jonas> and if it's required for the solution, then it's a crucial flaw
17:04:35 <b_jonas> I'm not sure it's a bug
17:04:37 <int-e> (to me the flaw is that it has rays and line segments at all)
17:05:10 <int-e> (I understand that they reduce the confusion on the screen... but extending a line segment should be a free operation)
17:05:43 <b_jonas> int-e: you need rays to make unambiguous constructions to select between two intersections if you want to be able to move the starting points or arbitrary points after some steps
17:05:52 <b_jonas> (segments aren't technically necessary)
17:06:29 <b_jonas> mind you, that doesn't help you select between two intersections of two circles. for that, we'd need an extra tool.
17:06:49 <int-e> but anyway, yes, in level 25 rays are accepted
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18:57:06 <izabera> in this game http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml the auto player always picks the leftmost head
18:57:12 <izabera> is this the worst possible strategy?
19:01:25 <izabera> i've been running the autoplayer for several hours and it's still going after 30k heads, but maybe always cutting the lowest head is a worse strategy
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19:21:44 <int-e> yeah cutting off deep heads first seems more promising
19:26:04 <int-e> that is, high heads... deeply nested
19:26:19 <gamemanj> you know, you'd have to be a pretty good warrior
19:26:25 <gamemanj> to cut off 30k heads
19:29:05 <int-e> my hydra died after losing less than 1200 heads (I closed the tab... the precise number is lost)
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20:07:10 <gamemanj> Do you need a good defense for something important?
20:07:22 <gamemanj> Do you want to keep out your amateur adventurer? If so...
20:07:24 <gamemanj> Buy your Hydra now! (Rated to 1.2kiloheads.)
20:08:00 <gamemanj> (Always read the label.)
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20:38:21 <izabera> aww spam again
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20:39:32 <izabera> how do you delete pages?
20:39:49 <Taneb> Ask an admin nicely
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20:40:13 <izabera> annoying
20:40:37 <izabera> who's an admin?
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20:41:46 <shachaf> oerjan
20:41:54 <shachaf> But he logreads anyway, so he'll see it.
20:42:01 <pikhq> Aren't there other admins?
20:42:04 <pikhq> But yeah, oerjan is one.
20:42:18 <shachaf> There are others.
20:42:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rajkumar0011 * New user account
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20:42:35 <shachaf> But "oerjan" is a legitimate answer to "who's an admin?".
20:42:41 <shachaf> This doesn't look promising.
20:42:53 <izabera> shachaf: racist
20:43:07 <shachaf> ?
20:43:22 <shachaf> The thing that doesn't look promising is three new user accounts in a row, one of which is spamming.
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20:43:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Saurav1 * New user account
20:43:45 <izabera> no its because they don't have american-looking nicknames
20:44:03 <pikhq> Jessicasimon is super American-looking, and is a spammer.
20:44:23 <izabera> pikhq: i know, and shachaf didn't say anything about that!
20:44:26 <izabera> uber racist
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20:44:43 <shachaf> If what you're doing is a joke, can you stop it?
20:44:47 <izabera> ok
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20:45:04 <izabera> can someone at least disable this HackEgo feature?
20:45:19 <izabera> it's even more annoying than spam on the wiki
20:45:20 <shachaf> Are there any wiki admins and/or channel ops in this time zone?
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20:48:05 <shachaf> lament is in Canada, I think?
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20:55:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/Canon printer phone number @@@Canon printer customer care phone number@@Canon printer help desk phone number r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47374 * Saurav1 * (+11539) Created page with "Canon printer phone number @@@Canon printer customer care phone number@@Canon printer help desk phone number r Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-844-848-1262@ Can
20:55:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Pokoman * New user account
20:55:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~ Live support ~ 18~66~388~3501 Quickbooks PHONE Number Quickbooks tech support number Quickbooks PHONE number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47375 * Rajkumar0011 * (+10021) Created page with "Live support ~ 1.866.388-3501Quickbooks support PHONE Number Quickbooks technical support number Quickbooks customer support PHONE number.pdf Describe Live suppo
20:55:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Samarraj2255 * New user account
20:55:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Canon printer support phone number@@Canon printer help desk phone number r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47376 * Anurag1 * (+12073) Created page with "Canon printer support phone number@@Canon printer help desk phone number r Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-844-848-1262@ Canon printer tech support number Canon printer..."
20:55:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Coolll quickbooks ..1-866-(3.8.8)-3501 q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s t-e-c-h a-n-d t-e-c-h-n-i-c-a-l s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s s-a-l-e-s]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47377 * Anisingh * (+48355) Created page with "Help desk@@...~1866 388 3501 **@@ quickbooks customer support number quickbooks customer service phone number + quickbo
20:56:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[$$$$$+USA~+18~00~615~0869 @ * Quickbooks Support phone number Quickbooks customer care phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47378 * Sinkukumar321 * (+16985) Created page with " Describe Quickbooks support Number 1 800 615 0869 here. Quickbooks Phone Number: We are here to Providing You a best technical support related any kind of issues are f
20:56:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Dinni555 * New user account
20:56:31 <gamemanj> warning. spam may be occurring.
20:56:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47379 * Jessicasimon * (+7416) Created page with "ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-
20:56:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Susu1 * New user account
20:56:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ outlook support Phone Number Outlook customer care phone number helpline number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47380 * Pokoman * (+7080) Created page with "MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ outlook support Phone Number Outlook customer care phone number helpline number usa Call, +++1-844-778-8603 +++for
20:57:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Martinjohn1611 * New user account
20:58:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Best solution @@@@@1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Quickbooks support phone number tech support phone number Quickbooks help desk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47381 * Susu123 * (+32967) Created page with "Quickbooks New 2 Keywords.txt Intuit Help 1 - 866 - 388 - 3501 QuickBooks technical support phone number QuickBooks technical support phone number Intu
20:58:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Birendrabonde * New user account
20:58:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Mhussey362 * New user account
20:58:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ OUTLOOK support phone number Outlook Customer care, Phone Number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47382 * Pokoman * (+9577) Created page with "SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ OUTLOOK support phone number Outlook Customer care, Phone Number usa CALLumbia==؏؎ئ؋ثحݟOutlook!! √⅛+ 18 44-
20:59:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Now here Quickbooks customer support Call for any type help today]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47383 * Samarraj2255 * (+13645) Created page with "Number, Quickbooks Customer Support (((1+866+388+3501)!!Phone Number, Quickbooks Customer Support Number, Quickbooks Customer Service Helpline Number, Quickb(((1+866+388+3501)..."
20:59:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rayanmoorejun23 * New user account
20:59:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Joanmariatrack * New user account
20:59:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QBBQB..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47384 * Jessicasimon * (+12788) Created page with "QBBQB..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number Describe USA intuit Help @@1+866+388+3501@@ Quickbooks
20:59:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QBBQB..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47385&oldid=47384 * Martinjohn1611 * (-7617)
20:59:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.r.o @.Q.B@1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47386 * Rajkumar0011 * (+50868) Created page with "[http://@~_Live_support_~_18~66~388~3501_Quickbooks_PHONE_Number_Quickbooks_tech_support_number_Quickbooks_PHONE_nu
21:00:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47387 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+18624) Created page with "Call 1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks
21:00:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O.n.c.e m.o.r.e 1.8..4.4.3.1.3.1.9.0.4..Avg antivirus C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47388 * Dinni555 * (+16985) Created page with "O.n.c.e m.o.r.e 1.8..4.4.3.1.3.1.9.0.4..Avg antivirus C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A avg antivirus phone number 1-844-313-1904, avg antivirus contact number
21:00:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Tivedpomjodis * New user account
21:00:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks Helpline number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47389 * Joanmariatrack * (+16561) Created page with "((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quickbooks Customer service phone number… here. ((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quic
21:00:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Best solution @@@@@1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Quickbooks support phone number tech support phone number Quickbooks help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47390&oldid=47381 * Martinjohn1611 * (-24021)
21:00:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Roverblanger * New user account
21:00:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47391&oldid=47379 * Martinjohn1611 * (+3144)
21:01:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Anjilojilo * New user account
21:01:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47392&oldid=47391 * Tivedpomjodis * (+395)
21:01:18 <shachaf> Cale: ?
21:01:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[$$$$$+USA~+18~00~615~0869 @ * Quickbooks Support phone number Quickbooks customer care phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47393&oldid=47378 * Martinjohn1611 * (-11814)
21:01:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ hotmail support Phone Number Hotmail customer care phone number helpline number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47394 * Pokoman * (+7080) Created page with "MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ hotmail support Phone Number Hotmail customer care phone number helpline number usa Call, +++1-844-778-8603 +++for
21:01:30 * shachaf /ignore HackEgo
21:01:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47395 * Roverblanger * (+18715) Created page with "QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number Call 1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks tech..."
21:01:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Coolll quickbooks ..1-866-(3.8.8)-3501 q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s t-e-c-h a-n-d t-e-c-h-n-i-c-a-l s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s s-a-l-e-s]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47396&oldid=47377 * Martinjohn1611 * (-43184)
21:01:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47397&oldid=47392 * Mhussey362 * (+7360)
21:01:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@brainfuck @1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.ok.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.po.r.t. .P.h.o.n.e. .N.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47398 * Birendrabonde * (+10132) Created page with "QBS...!!**Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s Tech support Phone number !!(( 1 ..888..513..5978 )) Intuit Quickbooks Customer Support Phone Number QuickBooks Payroll Custome
21:01:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47399 * Joanmariatrack * (+10814) Created page with "Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-860-9230@ QuickBooks tech support number QuickBooks pro 2014 support phone USA, payroll support here.Describe @@Tollfree 1-800-860-9230...."
21:01:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.r.o @.Q.B@1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47400&oldid=47386 * Mhussey362 * (-32553)
21:02:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~ Live support ~ 18~66~388~3501 Quickbooks PHONE Number Quickbooks tech support number Quickbooks PHONE number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47401&oldid=47375 * Martinjohn1611 * (+9821)
21:02:14 <shachaf> @ask oerjan to remind me to /unignore HackEgo when the spam issue is fixed twh
21:02:14 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:02:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~ Live support ~ 18~66~388~3501 Quickbooks support Phone Number Quickbooks technical support number Quickbooks phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47402 * Jessicasimon * (+9722) Created page with "@~ Live support ~ 18~66~388~3501 Quickbooks support Phone Number Quickbooks technical support number Quickbooks phone number Live support ~ 1.866.388
21:02:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number (1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 ) QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47403 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+18624) Created page with "Call 1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical help contact number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support contact number,1800-86..
21:02:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks technical help contact number, quickbooks technical support contact number,]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47404&oldid=47372 * Martinjohn1611 * (+3688)
21:02:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47405&oldid=47397 * Tivedpomjodis * (-7360)
21:02:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47406&oldid=47405 * Martinjohn1611 * (+184)
21:02:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ HOTMAIL support phone number Hotmail Customer care, Phone Number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47407 * Pokoman * (+9577) Created page with "SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ HOTMAIL support phone number Hotmail Customer care, Phone Number usa CALLumbia==؏؎ئ؋ثحݟHotmail!! √⅛+ 18 44-
21:03:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Now here Quickbooks customer support Call for any type help today]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47408&oldid=47383 * Mhussey362 * (+4670)
21:03:09 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep).
21:03:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47409 * Susu123 * (+24179) Created page with "QuickBooks??? PHOne Number((18663883501)) QuickBooks??? help desk phone number USA here.QuickBooks??? PHOne Number((18663883501)) QuickBooks??? help desk phone numbe
21:03:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47410 * Joanmariatrack * (+10931) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+860+9230@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Des
21:03:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47411&oldid=47406 * Tivedpomjodis * (-184)
21:03:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.L S.e.r.v.i.c.e + 1.8 6.6-3.8.8.-3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S. s.u.p.p.o.r.t .p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e, s.e.r.v.i.c.e P.h.o.n.e. N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47412&oldid=47365 * Anjilojilo * (+0)
21:03:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~ Live support ~ 18~66~388~3501 Quickbooks support Phone Number Quickbooks technical support number Quickbooks phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47413&oldid=47402 * Martinjohn1611 * (+1417)
21:03:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47415&oldid=47411 * Mhussey362 * (+7360)
21:03:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HELP*bn*Avg**Antivirus 18-44 3-1-3 19-04 –support phone**number**customer support phone number USA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47414 * Dinni555 * (+7001) Created page with "HELP*bn*Avg**Antivirus 18-44 3-1-3 19-04 –support phone**number**customer support phone number USA Avg antivirus Tech support number !!!!(1-844-313-1904)!!! .Support Phone N..
21:04:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Aaasssddd2 * New user account
21:04:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47416&oldid=47415 * Tivedpomjodis * (-7360)
21:04:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@brainfuck @1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.ok.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.po.r.t. .P.h.o.n.e. .N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47417&oldid=47398 * Martinjohn1611 * (+1007)
21:04:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47418&oldid=47395 * Martinjohn1611 * (-5280)
21:04:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number (1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 ) QuickBooks pro support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47419 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+18624) Created page with "Call 1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical help contact number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support contact number,1800-86..
21:04:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.L S.e.r.v.i.c.e + 1.8 6.6-3.8.8.-3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S. s.u.p.p.o.r.t .p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e, s.e.r.v.i.c.e P.h.o.n.e. N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47420&oldid=47412 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
21:04:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Canon printer support phone number @@@canon printer phone number @@@canon printer helpline phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47421 * Anurag1 * (+7731) Created page with "Ecanon ʬʬʬ ζζ 1 844 848 1262 for all type help by Canon printer tech support phone number, Intuit Canon printer Tech Support Phone Number, Canon printer Help Desk Ph
21:05:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@@*Phone number of quickbooks 1800.615.0869 enterprise quickbooks support]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47422 * Anisingh * (+9706) Created page with "Intuit@(1-800-615-0869)QuickBooks Tech Support Phone Number provides online support for all USA/CANADA clients Help@Call 18006150869 Quickbooks 24/7 support phone number,quick..."
21:05:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ sbcglobal support Phone Number Sbcglobal customer care phone number helpline number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47423 * Pokoman * (+7440) Created page with "MORE~SOLUT!ON++1.8.4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 ++ sbcglobal support Phone Number Sbcglobal customer care phone number helpline number usa Call, +++1-844-778-8603
21:05:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47424&oldid=47358 * Joanmariatrack * (-877)
21:05:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47425&oldid=47416 * Martinjohn1611 * (+2480)
21:05:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47426&oldid=47424 * Tivedpomjodis * (+24)
21:05:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@@*Phone number of quickbooks 1800.615.0869 enterprise quickbooks support]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47427&oldid=47422 * Mhussey362 * (+8609)
21:05:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47428 * Roverblanger * (+10898) Created page with "(1.8.8.8.513.5978)Quickbooks Tech Support Number Quickbooks Customer Support Number Q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s T-e-c-h-n-i-c-a-l-L Support Number usa. Help Usa@ +1-888-513-5978...(((..."
21:06:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47429&oldid=47426 * Anjilojilo * (+855)
21:06:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47430&oldid=47429 * Joanmariatrack * (-879)
21:06:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47431&oldid=47425 * Samarraj2255 * (-2480)
21:06:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Canon printer support phone number canon phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47432 * Anurag1 * (+12423) Created page with "Canon printer support phone number canon phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-844-848-1262@ Canon printer tech support number Canon printer 2014 support phon..."
21:06:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TALK+Norton+Antivirus++1.844.3131.90.4++Technical support phone number**customer support phone**number**]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47433 * Dinni555 * (+7702) Created page with "TALK+Norton+Antivirus++1.844.3131.90.4++Technical support phone number**customer support phone**number** @!!@TALK+Norton+Antivirus++1.844.3131.90.4++Technical**phone**number
21:06:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47434&oldid=47431 * Jessicasimon * (+5523)
21:06:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@BALWAN@ SHAKTIMAN 1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47435 * Birendrabonde * (+5621) Created page with "Quickbooks ERROR TECH SUPPORT NUMBER!!))))1 8-8-8-513-5978!!((Quickbooks ERROR Customer Support Phone NUmber cuber, Quickbooksstomer service contact numb
21:06:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47436&oldid=47409 * Martinjohn1611 * (-10744)
21:06:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/CANON PRINTER@@!Canon printer customer care phone number@@helpdesk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47437 * Saurav1 * (+13015) Created page with "CANON PRINTER@@!Canon printer customer care phone number@@helpdesk number Canon printer customer care phone Canon printer phone number,Canon printer tech support phone number..."
21:06:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47438&oldid=47430 * Tivedpomjodis * (+24)
21:06:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/usa/canadaUrgent @@@@CALL!!Canon printer customer care phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47439 * Saurav1 * (+9362) Created page with "usa/canadaUrgent @@@@CALL!!Canon printer customer care phone number Urgent@+ ^^^^(( *❶❽❹❹ 848 ❶904*))^^^^Canon printer (Support) Phone Number,CANON PRINTER suppor..."
21:07:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/!!Help Printer@@@ +canon+phone@number@@canon@printer customer care @number@Uk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47440 * Saurav1 * (+11121) Created page with "!!Help Printer@@@ +canon+phone@number@@canon@printer customer care @number@Uk !!Help Printer@@@Tech ++..+18~44848~1262+.+phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@number@U..."
21:07:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47441&oldid=47434 * Mhussey362 * (+1837)
21:07:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/Jeet::::@@ canon printer@@@customer care phone number !!!!@@@]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47442 * Saurav1 * (+11105) Created page with "Jeet::::@@ canon printer@@@customer care phone number !!!!@@@ !!Help Printer@@@Tech ++..+18~44848~1262+.+phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@number@Uk !!canon Printe..."
21:07:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/digambar Printer+Scanner@@ phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47443 * Saurav1 * (+11235) Created page with "digambar Printer+Scanner@@ phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@ !!Help Printer@@@Tech ++..+18~44848~1262+.+phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@number@Uk !!..."
21:07:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/canon customer care phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47444 * Saurav1 * (+6615) Created page with "C@AN@ON ::::printer:::VIP:: +(((18~488.48+1262))) CANON Printer Support Phone Number, CANON Printer phone number uk Canon Printer support number USA Canada@ 1-844-848-1262@ C..."
21:07:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47445 * Joanmariatrack * (+17602) Created page with "QuickBooks PRO phone number,(1~800~860~9230)// QuickBooks PRO customer care number..... QuickBooks PRO Toll Free, Intuit@(1~800.860~9230)@~: QuickBooks PRO Technic
21:07:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ SBCGLOBAL support phone number Sbcglobal Customer care, Phone Number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47446 * Pokoman * (+10085) Created page with "SOCIAL~CALL+√⅛+ 1.8 .4.4.7.7.8.8.6.0.3 *@ SBCGLOBAL support phone number Sbcglobal Customer care, Phone Number usa CALLumbia==؏؎ئ؋ثحݟSbcglobal!! √
21:07:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[California @@ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ @ QuickBooks technical support phone number, QuickBooks Enterprise phone number.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47447 * Susu123 * (+5466) Created page with "Califonia++++@@ 1 866 388-3501@ ++++++QuickBooks? technical support phone number, QuickBooks? Enterprise phone number Intuit@(1-866-388-3501)QuickBook
21:07:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number (1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 ) QuickBooks tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47448 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+18624) Created page with "Call 1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical help contact number,1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical support contact number,1800-86.
21:07:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[H.e.l.p.p.p.p.p.p.P.P.P.P Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r @1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47449 * Susu123 * (+5218) Created page with "Helppp Quickbooks Pro Phone Number@ 1 866 388 3501 Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Help desk
21:07:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47450&oldid=47428 * Mhussey362 * (+7417)
21:07:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@BALWAN@ SHAKTIMAN 1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47451&oldid=47435 * Martinjohn1611 * (+5518)
21:07:54 <pikhq> @ask oerjan me too
21:07:54 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:08:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47452&oldid=47438 * Anjilojilo * (+14001)
21:08:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:L.o.s. .A.n.g.e.l.e.s @@ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r. 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47453 * Aaasssddd2 * (+9257) Created page with "(((((((( Quickbooks @! technical @! support @! phone @! number 1-888-513-5978@! Quickbo
21:08:18 <izabera> @ask oerjan me three
21:08:18 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:08:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Tivedpomjodis * moved [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] to [[Quickbooks phone number18885135978 @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]]
21:08:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:L.o.s. .A.n.g.e.l.e.s @@ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r. 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47456&oldid=47453 * Martinjohn1611 * (+1882)
21:08:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Hamariadh * New user account
21:08:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.L S.e.r.v.i.c.e + 1.8 6.6-3.8.8.-3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S. s.u.p.p.o.r.t .p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e, s.e.r.v.i.c.e P.h.o.n.e. N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47457&oldid=47420 * Anjilojilo * (+11487)
21:08:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number18885135978 @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47458&oldid=47454 * Martinjohn1611 * (-13817)
21:09:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47459 * Joanmariatrack * (+33725) Created page with "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO phone
21:09:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ÈQ-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s ʬʬʬ ζζ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r s-e-r-v-i-c-βe h-e-l-p-l-i-n-e p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47460&oldid=47441 * Jessicasimon * (-1837)
21:09:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Hamariadh]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47461 * Hamariadh * (+3297) /* skype (844-307-5701@@ SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE */ new section
21:09:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47462&oldid=47364 * Roverblanger * (+6435)
21:09:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[California @@ ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ @ QuickBooks technical support phone number, QuickBooks Enterprise phone number.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47463&oldid=47447 * Martinjohn1611 * (+5673)
21:09:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number18885135978 @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47464&oldid=47458 * Tivedpomjodis * (-184)
21:09:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47465&oldid=47450 * Anisingh * (-7417)
21:09:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47466&oldid=47455 * Mhussey362 * (+18195)
21:09:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Hamariadh * moved [[User talk:Hamariadh]] to [[Skype @@(844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number S]]
21:09:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47469&oldid=47399 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:10:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47470&oldid=47465 * Martinjohn1611 * (-3900)
21:10:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47471&oldid=47470 * Anisingh * (+3900)
21:10:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47472&oldid=47466 * Jessicasimon * (-2980)
21:10:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@ROUDY RATHOUR 1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47473 * Birendrabonde * (+35097) Created page with "QBS...!!**Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s Tech support Phone number !!(( 1 ..888..513..5978 )) Intuit Quickbooks Customer Support Phone Number QuickBooks Payroll Cust
21:10:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47474&oldid=47462 * Martinjohn1611 * (-11327)
21:10:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Tivedpomjodis * moved [[Quickbooks phone number18885135978 @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] to [[Q.u.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s .phone number@@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]]
21:11:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47477&oldid=47472 * Mhussey362 * (+2980)
21:11:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47478&oldid=47469 * Anjilojilo * (+5830)
21:11:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[California 18663883501 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t. N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A. Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s A.d.m.i.n P.a.s.s.w.o.r.d N.o.t W.o.r.k.i.n.g]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47479 * Rajkumar0011 * (+23264) Created page with "C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A._.Q.B_1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1))))_Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s_t.e.c.h_s.u.p.p.o.r.t_p.h.o.n.e_n.u.m.b.e.r_q.u.i.c.k.b.o.
21:11:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Roverblanger * moved [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] to [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]]: Wrong Title By mistake
21:11:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Call Support @1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1@quickbooks technical support phone number, quickbooks customer support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47482 * Susu123 * (+12316) Created page with "Call Support @1866 388 3501@quickbooks technical support phone number, quickbooks customer support phone number Helpline@))1866 388 3501@@((QuickBooks?? pro t
21:11:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47483&oldid=47478 * Martinjohn1611 * (-4978)
21:11:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47484&oldid=47471 * Mhussey362 * (+7417)
21:11:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s .phone number@@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47485&oldid=47475 * Jessicasimon * (+4380)
21:11:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.a.c.h.e.g.i. Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r. C.a.n.a.d.a]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47486 * Dinni555 * (+12067) Created page with "N.a.c.h.e.g.i. Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e
21:11:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.e.w. .y.o.r.k 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47487 * Anurag1 * (+12745) Created page with "N.e.w. .y.o.r.k 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c
21:12:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47488&oldid=47480 * Roverblanger * (+18405) /* 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number */ new section
21:12:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@ROUDY RATHOUR 1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47489&oldid=47473 * Martinjohn1611 * (-23431)
21:12:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Delaware helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) Quickbooks tech Support Phone Number,Quickbooks customer support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47490 * Joanmariatrack * (+16159) Created page with "Online Support For (((1+800+860+9230)!!! QuickBooks ((Technical)) Support phone number,, QuickBooks PRO tech support phone number Online Supp
21:12:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:L.o.s. .A.n.g.e.l.e.s @@ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r. 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47491&oldid=47456 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:12:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47492&oldid=47436 * Tivedpomjodis * (-2480)
21:12:24 <Xe> i think the wiki is getting spammed
21:12:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e T.E.C.H. ))1-8.6.6+3.8.8.+3.5.0.1(( Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s E.n.t.e.r.p.r.i.s.e t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47493 * Saurav1 * (+18469) Created page with "H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e T.E.C.H. ))1-8.6.6+3.8.8.+3.5.0.1(( Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s E.n.t.e.r.p.r.i.s.e t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.
21:12:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.e.w. .y.o.r.k 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47494&oldid=47487 * Anjilojilo * (+1294)
21:12:31 <Xe> can't tell for sure though
21:12:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number @1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0@QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47495 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+23810) Created page with "CALIFORNIA QB 1 800 860 9230)))) Quickbooks tech support phone number 1-800-860-9230 quickbooks helpline phone number USA@JEET (((1 800 860 9230 USA)) Quickbooks pro Support P..."
21:12:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[LIVE~ QuickBooks pro 1-866-388-35-01-technical support phone number quickbooks customer support phone number usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47496 * Pokoman * (+12957) Created page with "LIVE~ QuickBooks pro 1-866-388-35-01-technical support phone number quickbooks customer support phone number usa QuickBooks support phone number quickbooks customer
21:12:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.e.w. .y.o.r.k 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47497&oldid=47494 * Martinjohn1611 * (-3479)
21:12:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s .phone number@@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47498&oldid=47485 * Mhussey362 * (+2980)
21:12:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47499&oldid=47459 * Jessicasimon * (-17247)
21:13:07 <izabera> maybe quickbooks is a new esoteric language
21:13:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47500&oldid=47410 * Anisingh * (+0)
21:13:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47501&oldid=47499 * Anjilojilo * (-2439)
21:13:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.a.c.h.e.g.i. Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r. C.a.n.a.d.a]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47502&oldid=47486 * Martinjohn1611 * (-3121)
21:13:26 <pikhq> Which uses wiki pages as code.
21:13:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number @1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0@QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47503&oldid=47495 * Jessicasimon * (-7332)
21:13:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Call Support @1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1@quickbooks technical support phone number, quickbooks customer support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47504&oldid=47482 * Martinjohn1611 * (+9229)
21:13:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.a.c.h.e.g.i. Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r. C.a.n.a.d.a]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47505&oldid=47502 * Anjilojilo * (+16012)
21:13:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Delaware helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) Quickbooks tech Support Phone Number,Quickbooks customer support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47506&oldid=47490 * Sinkukumar321 * (-16159) Blanked the page
21:13:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Skype @@(844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number S]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47507 * Hamariadh * (+73199) Created page with "(((((844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help Desk Phone Number,SKYPE customer support number ((((((1-844.307.5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help D..."
21:14:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47508&oldid=47488 * Tivedpomjodis * (-14448)
21:14:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.e.w. .y.o.r.k 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47510&oldid=47497 * Sinkukumar321 * (+7755)
21:14:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[California 18663883501 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t. N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A. Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s A.d.m.i.n P.a.s.s.w.o.r.d N.o.t W.o.r.k.i.n.g]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47511&oldid=47479 * Martinjohn1611 * (-1719)
21:14:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47512&oldid=47501 * Sinkukumar321 * (+4276)
21:14:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47513&oldid=47445 * Sinkukumar321 * (+713)
21:14:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47514&oldid=47500 * Sinkukumar321 * (+7384)
21:14:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Johnsir414 * New user account
21:14:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks support phone number))1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks technical support phone number USA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47515 * Joanmariatrack * (+10754) Created page with "Help Usa@ +1-800-860-9230...((( QuickBooks payroll support phone number... ~Help Usa@ +1-800-860-9230...((( QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@ +1-800-860-9230
21:14:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks Helpline number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47516&oldid=47389 * Sinkukumar321 * (+1754)
21:14:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47517&oldid=47477 * Sinkukumar321 * (+0)
21:14:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number @1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0@QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47518&oldid=47503 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4573)
21:14:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Hamariadh * moved [[Talk:Skype @@(844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number S]] to [[Talk:Skype(844.307.5701 SKYPE tech support phone number]]
21:14:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:L.o.s. .A.n.g.e.l.e.s @@ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r. 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47521&oldid=47491 * Aaasssddd2 * (-1882)
21:14:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47522&oldid=47512 * Samarraj2255 * (-4276)
21:14:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47523&oldid=47517 * Martinjohn1611 * (-11317)
21:15:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks Helpline number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47524&oldid=47516 * Martinjohn1611 * (-11317)
21:15:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jamesamrik * New user account
21:15:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@G*****YE M*R L***E1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47525 * Birendrabonde * (+10132) Created page with "QBS...!!**Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s Tech support Phone number !!(( 1 ..888..513..5978 )) Intuit Quickbooks Customer Support Phone Number QuickBooks Payroll
21:15:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47526&oldid=47522 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-2134)
21:15:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47527&oldid=47513 * Anisingh * (-838)
21:16:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Adreacool * New user account
21:16:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks support phone number))1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks technical support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47528&oldid=47515 * Samarraj2255 * (+3285)
21:16:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q+b@care®( quickbooks pro support phone number and quickbooks pro customer care phone number usa/canada]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47529 * Saurav1 * (+11533) Created page with "Q+b@care®( quickbooks pro support phone number and quickbooks pro customer care phone number usa/canada Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-844-848-1262@ Canon printer tech
21:16:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.l.y)))) ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ (((((Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k..s .s.u.p.p.o..r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r .q.u.i.c.k.b..o.o.k.s. p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47530 * Anurag1 * (+7343) Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.l.y)))) ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ (((((Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k..s .s.u.p.p.o..r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r .q
21:16:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47531&oldid=47508 * Hamariadh * (+3037) 844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help Desk Phone Number,SKYPE customer support number ((((((1-844.307.5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help Desk Phone Number,SKYPE customer
21:16:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47532&oldid=47484 * 182.69.242.3 * (-4276)
21:16:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O.n.c.e m.o.r.e 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47533 * Dinni555 * (+16232) Created page with "O.n.c.e m.o.r.e 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A quickbooks phone number 1-866-388-3501, quickbooks conta
21:16:37 <int-e> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
21:16:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47534&oldid=47526 * Martinjohn1611 * (-4907)
21:16:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47535&oldid=47492 * Joanmariatrack * (-201)
21:16:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Jamesamrik]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47536 * Jamesamrik * (+7299) Created page with "Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Support NumberMozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Support NumberMozilla T..."
21:16:52 <izabera> tell me that you're an admin
21:16:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47538&oldid=47531 * Johnsir414 * (-2182)
21:16:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[H.e.l.p.p.p.p.p.p.P.P.P.P Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r @1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.o s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47537&oldid=47449 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+6687)
21:16:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[User:Jamesamrik]] to [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Support Number]]
21:16:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks support phone number))1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks technical support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47541&oldid=47528 * Mhussey362 * (+4276)
21:16:59 <int-e> I'm not
21:17:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O.n.c.e m.o.r.e 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47542&oldid=47533 * Martinjohn1611 * (-9234)
21:17:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Hamariadh * moved [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] to [[Talk:Skype 1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1. Support P.h.o.n.e. Number skype tech]]
21:17:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47545&oldid=47535 * Jessicasimon * (+5724)
21:17:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HElp Support PreMier))@@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks Helpline phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47546 * Joanmariatrack * (+19453) Created page with "Help USA 1 800 860 9230 Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number And Quickbooks Support Number 1~800~860~9230 Quickbooks customer support number Quickbooks c
21:17:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q+b@care®( quickbooks pro support phone number and quickbooks pro customer care phone number usa/canada]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47547&oldid=47529 * Mhussey362 * (+6782)
21:17:18 <shachaf> int-e: Don't worry. Just /ignore HackEgo and @ask oerjan to tell you when the issue is taken care of.
21:17:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47548&oldid=47532 * Martinjohn1611 * (-7041)
21:17:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47549&oldid=47544 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+11821)
21:17:25 <zzo38> What I do is to ignore the wiki update messages from HackEgo but not others
21:17:36 <shachaf> oerjan will take care of everything.
21:17:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Tombell * New user account
21:17:45 <zzo38> But I have already set that far before anyways. If your client can do this too, you may wish to configure it this way.
21:17:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks phone number @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47550&oldid=47523 * Sinkukumar321 * (+1725)
21:17:50 <shachaf> zzo38: But what if I want regular wiki updates, but not spam wiki updates?
21:17:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks Helpline number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47551&oldid=47524 * Sinkukumar321 * (+1725)
21:17:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks technical help contact number, quickbooks technical support contact number,]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47552&oldid=47404 * Sinkukumar321 * (-2416)
21:17:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47553 * Susu123 * (+36708) Created page with "QPML +¦$÷1866-388- 3501 quickbooks technical help phone number, quickbooks technical help contact number, quickbooks technical support contact number, quickbooks contact
21:17:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.l.y)))) ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ (((((Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k..s .s.u.p.p.o..r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r .q.u.i.c.k.b..o.o.k.s. p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47554&oldid=47530 * Martinjohn1611 * (+4323)
21:17:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number (1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 ) QuickBooks tech support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47555&oldid=47448 * Sinkukumar321 * (-9901)
21:17:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47556&oldid=47534 * Sinkukumar321 * (+1725)
21:17:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Skype 1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1. Support P.h.o.n.e. Number skype tech]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47557&oldid=47543 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:18:00 <int-e> yeah, I am ignoring HackEgo now, anything else would be insane :/
21:18:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47558&oldid=47548 * 182.69.242.3 * (+3957)
21:18:19 <shachaf> zzo38: Also, what if someone runs a HackEgo command that generates output that looks like a wiki update but isn't?
21:18:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47559&oldid=47556 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+3182)
21:18:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47560 * Adreacool * (+11045) Created page with "QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number Quickbooks support++ @1+800+728+7356@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbook..."
21:18:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QUICKBOOKS@@!Quickbooks customer care phone number@@helpdesk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47561 * Saurav1 * (+11959) Created page with "QUICKBOOKS@@!Quickbooks customer care phone number@@helpdesk number Quickbooks customer care phone Quickbooks phone number,Quickbooks tech support phone number Online helpdex)..."
21:18:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47562&oldid=47527 * Martinjohn1611 * (-6917)
21:18:33 <shachaf> It's a good thing oerjan isn't retired.
21:18:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47563&oldid=47559 * Jessicasimon * (+4573)
21:18:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Bhojpuriya * New user account
21:18:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47564&oldid=47549 * Johnsir414 * (-4452)
21:18:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks tech support phone number))@@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks help desk phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47565 * Joanmariatrack * (+16561) Created page with "((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quickbooks Customer service phone number… here. ((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quickbooks
21:18:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@G*****YE M*R L***E1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47566&oldid=47525 * Martinjohn1611 * (-1186)
21:18:55 <zzo38> That is not possible, due to the way HackEgo adds a zero-width character at first.
21:18:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Phone Number 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Customer Support phone nUmber Quickbooks customer service phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47567 * Tombell * (+69506) Phone Number 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Customer Support phone nUmber Quickbooks customer service phone number
21:18:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47568&oldid=47563 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4573)
21:18:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rs306013 * New user account
21:19:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QUICKBOOKS@@!Quickbooks customer care phone number@@helpdesk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47569&oldid=47561 * Mhussey362 * (+6356)
21:19:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1-p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t –p-h-o-n-e –n-u-m-b-er- Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s- h-e-l-p- -d-e-s-k- -p-h-o-n-e –n-u-m-b-e-r-]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47570 * Anurag1 * (+11883) Created page with "Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1-p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s s
21:19:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47571&oldid=47560 * Mhussey362 * (+7270)
21:19:19 <shachaf> Ah, it doesn't do that for wiki updates?
21:19:23 <shachaf> Excellent.
21:19:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47572 * Rajkumar0011 * (+7778) Created page with "California_18663883501_Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s_S.u.p.p.o.r.t._N.u.m.b.e.r_U.S.A._Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s_A.d.m.i.n_P.a.s.s.w.o.r.d_N.o.t_W.o.r.k.i.n.g|QuickBooks Payroll support pho..."
21:19:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Phone Number 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Customer Support phone nUmber Quickbooks customer service phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47573&oldid=47567 * Martinjohn1611 * (-60560)
21:19:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[J.u.s.t c.a.l.l Q.B 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.o C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47574 * Dinni555 * (+17761) Created page with "J.u.s.t c.a.l.l Q.B 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.o C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A quickbooks pro phone number 1-866-388-3
21:19:31 <zzo38> Yes.
21:19:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47575&oldid=47571 * Jessicasimon * (-1837)
21:19:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47576&oldid=47481 * Rs306013 * (+11803)
21:19:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Pranay @@ QB tech@1866-388-3501 quickbooks Enterprise technical tech phone number, quickbooks Enterprise support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47577 * Susu123 * (+18716) Created page with "QB Helpline@))1866 388 3501@@((QuickBooks?? Enterprise tech .support phone number usa Helpline))1866 388 3501@@((QuickBooks?? Enterprise tech .suppo
21:19:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47578 * Johnsir414 * (+7453) Created page with "QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2 QuickBooks pro tech support number @@Call, 1-800-919-0992 for all type help by QUICKBOOKS tech support phone numb..."
21:19:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/canadaUrgent @@CALL!!+))) Quickbooks customer care phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47579 * Saurav1 * (+8622) Created page with "usa/canadaUrgent @@CALL!!+))) Quickbooks customer care phone number Urgent@+ ^^^^(( Quickbooks (Support) Phone Number,QUICKBOOKS support phone number...usa/canada Urgent@+@..."
21:19:56 -!- MDude has quit (Remote host closed the connection).
21:20:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47580&oldid=47576 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+5)
21:20:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47581&oldid=47568 * Anisingh * (+5572)
21:20:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Davidjohn * New user account
21:20:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47582&oldid=47575 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4573)
21:20:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Ajneria * New user account
21:20:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47583 * Adreacool * (+7566) Created page with "QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.
21:20:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47584&oldid=47578 * Mhussey362 * (+10862)
21:20:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number @1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0@QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47585&oldid=47518 * Jessicasimon * (+4573)
21:20:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[J.u.s.t c.a.l.l Q.B 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.o C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47586&oldid=47574 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5856)
21:20:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HElp Support PreMier))@@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks Helpline phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47587&oldid=47546 * Sinkukumar321 * (+0)
21:20:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47588&oldid=47572 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+4127)
21:20:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47589&oldid=47582 * Jessicasimon * (+4573)
21:20:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e= ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) QuickBooks support Phone Number QuickBooks help desk phone number =usa]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47590 * Joanmariatrack * (+10814) Created page with "Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-860-9230@ QuickBooks tech support number QuickBooks pro 2014 support phone USA, payroll support here.Descri
21:20:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47591&oldid=47564 * 182.69.242.3 * (+4357)
21:20:25 <zzo38> Wiki update messages start with [wiki] without the zero-width character at first. All other messages from HackEgo that start with a punctuation mark do have the zero-width character at first.
21:20:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1-p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t –p-h-o-n-e –n-u-m-b-er- Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s- h-e-l-p- -d-e-s-k- -p-h-o-n-e –n-u-m-b-e-r-]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47592&oldid=47570 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+22)
21:20:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47593&oldid=47539 * Jamesamrik * (+33009)
21:20:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47594&oldid=47580 * Rs306013 * (-5)
21:20:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Support Number]] to [[Skype @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Skype Tech Support Number]]
21:20:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47597&oldid=47558 * Martinjohn1611 * (-395)
21:20:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Intuit Quickbooks Support 866 388 3501 QuickBooks Support phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47598 * Susu123 * (+15594) Created page with "Intuit Quickbooks Support 866 388 3501 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks????? support contact number, QuickBooks????? technical support contact number, quickbooks pr..."
21:21:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Agar Edit Kiya Bauaa M*t***ri K kasam hau @@ 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47599 * Roverblanger * (+18715) Created page with "QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number Call 1888-513-5978 quickb
21:21:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.l.y)))) ❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺⓿❶ (((((Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k..s .s.u.p.p.o..r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r .q.u.i.c.k.b..o.o.k.s. p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47600&oldid=47554 * 182.69.242.3 * (-711)
21:21:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[!!Help texas@@@ quickbooks tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47601 * Saurav1 * (+10777) Created page with "!!Help texas@@@ quickbooks tech support phone number +++18663883501++phone@number@@canon@printer@technical@support@number@Uk canon Tech (29) canon printer help, canon help lin..."
21:21:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47602&oldid=47597 * Davidjohn * (-3201)
21:21:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47603 * Bhojpuriya * (+10844) Created page with "Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-728-7356 @ QuickBooks tech support number QuickBooks pro 2014 support phone USA, payroll support here.Describe @@Tollfree 1-800-728-7356..."
21:21:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47604&oldid=47591 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
21:21:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47605&oldid=47583 * Samarraj2255 * (+3479)
21:21:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47606&oldid=47594 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+5)
21:21:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks tech support phone number))@@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47607&oldid=47565 * Sinkukumar321 * (-681)
21:21:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HElp Support PreMier))@@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks Helpline phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47608&oldid=47587 * Mhussey362 * (-1138)
21:21:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47609&oldid=47483 * Jessicasimon * (+4812)
21:21:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47610&oldid=47606 * Martinjohn1611 * (-2959)
21:21:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Adreacool * moved [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] to [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o
21:21:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47613&oldid=47589 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4573)
21:21:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47614&oldid=47612 * Rs306013 * (+11712)
21:21:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47615&oldid=47602 * Anisingh * (+3539)
21:22:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47616&oldid=47611 * Adreacool * (+2009)
21:22:04 <int-e> `?
21:22:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[N.o.w c.a.l.l Q.B 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s B.i.l.l.i.n.g C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47617 * Dinni555 * (+19312) Created page with "N.o.w c.a.l.l Q.B 1.8..6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1..Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s B.i.l.l.i.n.g C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r U.S.A Now call quickbooks billing
21:22:12 <int-e> `wisdom
21:22:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * New user account
21:22:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[M.o.s.t.l.y c.a.l.l 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47618 * Anurag1 * (+24131) Created page with "M.o.s.t.l.y c.a.l.l 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.
21:22:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47619&oldid=47615 * Martinjohn1611 * (-1952)
21:22:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QBBQB..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47620&oldid=47385 * Sinkukumar321 * (+10709)
21:23:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number (1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 ) QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47622&oldid=47419 * Sinkukumar321 * (-2744)
21:23:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@aaya tera baap @big B 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro tech support phone number @NYC LONDON 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro support number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47623 * Birendrabonde * (+49930) Created page with "Quickbooks TECH..Support !!!~~~...... (1.888..513..5978) QuickBooks Phone Number and QuickBooks support helpline number Point whe
21:23:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k. s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47621 * Tombell * (+8959) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o
21:23:16 <HackEgo> No output.
21:23:16 <HackEgo> ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:23:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Jeet::::@@ quickbooks payroll@@@customer care phone number !!!!@@@]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47624 * Saurav1 * (+10726) Created page with "Jeet::::@@ quickbooks payroll@@@customer care phone number !!!!@@@ Diljeet phone number 1-866-388-3501, quickbooks payrolls help desk, quickbooks payroll number 1-866-388-3501..."
21:23:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Support ❶❽⓿⓿❼❷❽❼❸❺❻ Quickbooks helpline phone number ,quickbooks pro support phone number.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47625 * Ajneria * (+11320) Created page with "Help Usa@ +1 - 800 - 728 - 7356 ...((( QuickBooks payroll support phone number... ~Help Usa@ +1 - 800 - 728 - 7356 ...((( QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Us
21:23:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47626&oldid=47614 * Mhussey362 * (+6415)
21:23:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47627&oldid=47619 * Anisingh * (+1952)
21:23:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47628&oldid=47616 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+186878)
21:23:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47629&oldid=47627 * Davidjohn * (+7617)
21:23:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47630&oldid=47609 * Mhussey362 * (+1837)
21:23:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47631&oldid=47581 * Rs306013 * (-5577)
21:23:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47632&oldid=47629 * Jessicasimon * (-2037)
21:24:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Hamariadh]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47633 * Hamariadh * (+9149) Created page with "(((((844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help Desk Phone Number,SKYPE customer support number ((((((1-844.307.5701 SKYPE tech support phone number SKYPE Help D..."
21:24:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.O.1 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47634 * Susu123 * (+17477) Created page with "QuickBooks PRO phone number,(1~866~388~3501)// QuickBooks PRO customer care number..... QuickBooks PRO Toll Free, Intuit@(1~866.388~3501)@~: QuickBooks PRO Technical Suppo
21:24:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47635&oldid=47632 * Johnsir414 * (-10999)
21:24:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47636 * Joanmariatrack * (+10931) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+860+9230@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-860-9230@ QuickBook..."
21:24:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47637&oldid=47631 * Martinjohn1611 * (-6729)
21:24:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47638&oldid=47604 * Anjilojilo * (-4276)
21:24:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Outlook+1-8.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1 outlook technical support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47639 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+9630) 1 800 213 2171 Microsoft Outlook technical support number 1 800 213 2171 Microsoft Outlook technical support number usa 1 800 213 2171 Microsoft Outlook technical support phone 1 800 213 2171 Microsoft
21:24:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47640&oldid=47635 * Anisingh * (+5419)
21:24:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q+b@care®( quickbooks customer care phone number usa/canada]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47641 * Saurav1 * (+11490) Created page with "Q+b@care®( quickbooks customer care phone number usa/canada Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-844-848-1262@ Canon printer tech support number Canon printer 2014 support..."
21:24:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47642&oldid=47603 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:24:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.O.1 quickbooks technical support phone number,quickbooks Pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47643&oldid=47634 * Mhussey362 * (+838)
21:24:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e= ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) QuickBooks support Phone Number QuickBooks help desk phone number =usa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47644&oldid=47590 * Sinkukumar321 * (+5066)
21:24:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Skype @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Skype Tech Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47645&oldid=47595 * Jamesamrik * (-32973)
21:24:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47646&oldid=47640 * Johnsir414 * (-3265)
21:24:39 <int-e> oh is hackego too busy following the wiki updates?
21:24:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47647&oldid=47637 * Rs306013 * (+6729)
21:24:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Skype @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Skype Tech Support Number]] to [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Tech Support Number]]
21:24:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47650&oldid=47646 * Jessicasimon * (+8845)
21:24:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Hamariadh * moved [[User:Hamariadh]] to [[Talk:Skype@@tech 8.44.-.30.7.-.57.0.1.+ skype support number((.8.44.-.30.7.-.57.0.1.+.+=]]
21:24:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47653&oldid=47650 * Anisingh * (-5547)
21:24:53 <izabera> `wisdom
21:24:56 <int-e> ah no, I missed it.
21:24:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47654&oldid=47653 * Jessicasimon * (+5547)
21:25:00 <HackEgo> rainbow//Rainbows are spectral creatures said to be powered by the Daystar.
21:25:07 <izabera> ok it works
21:25:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.A.L.I.F.O.R.N.I.A. .Q.B 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.l.i.n.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47655&oldid=47628 * Sinkukumar321 * (-181953)
21:25:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47656&oldid=47647 * Mhussey362 * (+6415)
21:25:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:(G@+@G)Outlook technical support phone number!!@+@!! Outlook customer care number!!@@]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47657 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+28108) Bade Bhai abhi thake nahi kya -- 80percent Discount only today get exiting offer 1-800-213-2171oooooooooo1-800-213-2171ooooooooooooodddd1-800-213-2171dddddddddddddddddddddddccc1-800-213-2171ccccccccc
21:25:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47658&oldid=47654 * Mhussey362 * (+1837)
21:25:24 <int-e> `wisdom
21:25:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47659&oldid=47642 * Anjilojilo * (+966)
21:25:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e= ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) QuickBooks support Phone Number QuickBooks help desk phone number =usa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47660&oldid=47644 * Mhussey362 * (+2435)
21:25:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rs306013 * moved [[C@LL~~@~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]] to [[C@LL~~!!!((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 !!!~~@~~ Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks pro support phone number USA]]
21:25:30 <izabera> @ask oerjan no need to remind me anything
21:25:30 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:25:32 <HackEgo> google//Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem.
21:25:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Queens @@ Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number Brooklyn@1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47663 * Aaasssddd2 * (+12147) Created page with "1 888 513 5978 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number q u i c k b o o k s t e c h n i c a l l support number usa(1.8.8.8.513.597
21:25:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[(((1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2))))@ Quickbooks Support P.hone n.umber,1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2 Quickbooks customer support phone n.umber]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47664 * Johnsir414 * (+5479) Created page with "US CANADA 1.8.0.0.9.19.0.9.9.2)))Quickbooks phone number Quickbooks pro support phone number @@Call, 1-800-919-0992 Quickbooks payroll tech support
21:25:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47665&oldid=47658 * Jessicasimon * (-1837)
21:25:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.))Quickbooks 24/7 PRO SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks POS telephone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47666 * Davidjohn * (+7467) Created page with "Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.))Quickbooks 24/7 PRO SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks POS telephone number@@Call, 1-800-919-0992 for all type help by QUICKBOOKS tech
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21:25:59 <int-e> okay, that's better... somehow my /unignore didn't actually take effect... maybe a typo
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21:26:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Wittepepobjustina * New user account
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21:26:12 <int-e> actually it did, my mistake...
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21:27:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47685&oldid=47679 * Anisingh * (+5577)
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21:27:18 <int-e> `echo [wiki] testing
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21:27:21 <HackEgo> ​[wiki] testing
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21:27:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helllo Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47692&oldid=47665 * Martinjohn1611 * (+3364)
21:27:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47695&oldid=47691 * Jessicasimon * (+2439)
21:27:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47696&oldid=47685 * Rs306013 * (-5577)
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21:27:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Saurav1 * moved [[Quickbooks tech Support phone number ((QuickBooks Help desk number]] to [[Talk:Quickbooks tech Support phone number ((QuickBooks Help desk number]]: Quickbooks tech Support phone number ((QuickBooks Help desk number
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21:28:12 <izabera> that zero width space thing is really convenient
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21:34:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * AshfordAston * New user account
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21:34:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rs306013 * moved [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] to [[QuickBooks 1.866-388-3501 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]]
21:34:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47819&oldid=47815 * Adreacool * (-7669)
21:34:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47820&oldid=47725 * Joanmariatrack * (+3358)
21:34:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks customer care @( 1866-388-3501 ) phone number usa/canada]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47821&oldid=47808 * Mhussey362 * (+6818)
21:34:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Outlook customer 1.8.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1.support telephone number,Outlook customer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47822 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+8838) Outlook customer support telephone number,Outlook customer support telephone number,Outlook customer support toll free number,Outlook customer support toll free number,Outlook tech support contact number,Outl
21:34:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47823&oldid=47818 * Adreacool * (+7444)
21:34:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Fransissamual * New user account
21:34:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47824&oldid=47819 * Johnsir414 * (+23873)
21:34:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47825&oldid=47820 * Jessicasimon * (+5664)
21:34:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47826&oldid=47824 * Anjilojilo * (-20789)
21:34:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks PRO Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.91.-90-99-2((QuickBooks Help desk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47827 * Davidjohn * (+17311) Created page with "QUICKBOOKS Phone Number1-800-919-0992 USA, @:-QUICKBOOKS Tech Support Phone Number, QUICKBOOKS Intuit Technical Support Phone Number, QUICKBOOKS Enterprise phone Number t/1212..."
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21:34:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47830&oldid=47816 * Mhussey362 * (+838)
21:34:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47831&oldid=47829 * Martinjohn1611 * (-6639)
21:35:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47832&oldid=47825 * Rs306013 * (-4578)
21:35:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47833&oldid=47831 * Johnsir414 * (+6639)
21:35:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Usa/H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e T.E.C.H. ))1-8.6.6+3.8.8.+3.5.0.1(( norton.t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47834 * AshfordAston * (+18088) Created page with "++++norton ++++1-888-226-1322++phone@number +++++!!!!!()()(@@norton@antivirus@tech@support@number +++++!!!!!()()(@usa & CANADA Antivirus number +++++!!!!!(
21:35:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47835&oldid=47833 * Anjilojilo * (+6705)
21:35:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47836&oldid=47832 * Aaasssddd2 * (+23816)
21:35:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47837&oldid=47835 * Johnsir414 * (-13032)
21:35:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@NAMSTE LONDON@big B 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro tech support phone number @NYC LONDON 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47838&oldid=47731 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:35:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47839&oldid=47830 * Anisingh * (-838)
21:35:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47840 * Anurag1 * (+11931) Created page with "K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S
21:35:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47841&oldid=47836 * Joanmariatrack * (-24902)
21:35:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Mehvisjohny * New user account
21:35:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47842&oldid=47837 * Jessicasimon * (+11828)
21:35:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47843&oldid=47842 * Johnsir414 * (-5501)
21:35:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47844&oldid=47843 * Watpad6 * (+0)
21:35:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47845&oldid=47844 * Johnsir414 * (+0)
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21:35:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jeshmin * New user account
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21:35:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47851&oldid=47841 * Wittepepobjustina * (+141)
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21:36:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47854&oldid=47853 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:36:04 <int-e> the sad thing is that they're probably simultaneously spamming google asking it to immediately index the pages... and then they'll be found for several days. :-(
21:36:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47855&oldid=47850 * Johnsir414 * (+6327)
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21:36:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47861&oldid=47860 * Jessicasimon * (+5501)
21:36:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47862&oldid=47851 * Ajneria * (+365)
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21:36:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47866&oldid=47863 * Anjilojilo * (+4834)
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21:36:43 <shachaf> Just ask fizzie to pull a few strings for us.
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21:36:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47874&oldid=47872 * Anjilojilo * (+1038)
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21:37:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Anjuneeru1 * New user account
21:37:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47878&oldid=47877 * Jessicasimon * (+5501)
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21:37:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47881&oldid=47880 * Jessicasimon * (-1204)
21:37:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47882&oldid=47879 * Samarraj2255 * (-945)
21:37:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47883&oldid=47881 * Wittepepobjustina * (-6356)
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21:37:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rs306013 * moved [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] to [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8-6-6 388 3501) QuickBooks pro tech support number]]
21:37:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47887 * Adreacool * (+10955) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+728+7356@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-728-7356@ Quickbook..."
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21:37:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47890&oldid=47889 * Jessicasimon * (+3272)
21:37:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47891&oldid=47890 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:37:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47892&oldid=47891 * Anjilojilo * (+2229)
21:37:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[C.o.o.l Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 2.4/7 s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p.d.e.s.k p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47893 * Dinni555 * (+13348) Created page with "C.o.o.l Q.B 1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1)))) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 2.4/7 s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s
21:37:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALL***TOLL* 1.8.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1 microsoft office technical support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47894 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+17634) microsoft 24 hour support number microsoft outlook customer service contact number microsoft outlook customer service contact number microsoft 365 contact number microsoft outlook customerÂ
21:37:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47895&oldid=47892 * Wittepepobjustina * (+4476)
21:38:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47896&oldid=47873 * Sinkukumar321 * (+3567)
21:38:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Sun Bauaa Jaaye De... Mississippi, Connecticut,Washington 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks. Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47897 * Roverblanger * (+18715) Created page with "QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks support telephone number Call 1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support number,1888-513
21:38:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47898&oldid=47895 * Watpad6 * (-6705)
21:38:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Mozilla Thunderbird @@@8.4.4-3.0.7.-.5.70..1++technical phone Number==]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47899 * Ioeifiooo * (+613907) Created page with "Mozilla Tech Support Number(((((844-307-5701++===all toll free/////////////+++++++++++++++====================@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Mozilla Thunderbird Technical Support Number(((..."
21:38:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47900&oldid=47898 * Jessicasimon * (+5501)
21:38:10 <izabera> what's that
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21:38:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47902&oldid=47886 * Jeshmin * (+8848)
21:38:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47903&oldid=47900 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:38:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ajneria * moved [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8-6-6 388 3501) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] to [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8-0-0 728 7356) QuickBooks pro tech support number]]
21:38:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47906&oldid=47903 * Joanmariatrack * (-879)
21:38:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALL!!@!! 1 (877) 778 8714 ***)) Quickbooks payrollTech support Customer care customer service customer support phone]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47907 * Smith123 * (+8723) Created page with "CALL!!@!! 1 (877) 778 8714 ***)) Quickbooks payrollTech support Customer care customer service customer support phone r @@Call, 1-877-778-8714 for all type h
21:38:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47908&oldid=47906 * Watpad6 * (+879)
21:38:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47909&oldid=47908 * Jessicasimon * (+5501)
21:38:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@brainfuck @1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.ok.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.po.r.t. .P.h.o.n.e. .N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47910&oldid=47417 * Johnsir414 * (+2974)
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21:38:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8-6-6 388 3501) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47912&oldid=47905 * Aaasssddd2 * (+9145)
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21:38:45 <izabera> HackEgo | number  microsoft outlook customer <- am i the only one who sees this?
21:38:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47919&oldid=47902 * Anjilojilo * (+5079)
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21:38:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47921&oldid=47916 * Anisingh * (+0)
21:38:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks pro tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47922 * Adreacool * (+11385) Created page with "QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks pro tech support phone number Quickbooks Support number 18~00~728~7356@@ Quickbooks tech Support phone Number Quickboo..."
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21:39:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47932&oldid=47919 * Anjilojilo * (+2605)
21:39:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47933&oldid=47927 * Wittepepobjustina * (-6356)
21:39:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Fort Worth @@ Quickbooks Pro Tech Support Phone Number Manhattan @@ 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47934&oldid=47719 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
21:39:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks pro tech support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47936&oldid=47922 * Mhussey362 * (+6930)
21:39:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47937&oldid=47933 * Jessicasimon * (+6356)
21:39:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ioeifiooo * moved [[Talk:Mozilla Thunderbird @@@8.4.4-3.0.7.-.5.70..1++technical phone Number==]] to [[844.307.-.5701+ Mozilla Thunderbird @@mozilla@844.307.-.5701++technical mozilla phone Number==]]
21:39:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Tech Support Number]] to [[Skype @@@@@((8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Skype Customer Service Number @@@ Skype Support Turbotax 844-307-5701 Customer Service Number @@@ Skype]]
21:39:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Pro…help support((1800..686..6918))QuickBooks pro t.e.c.h.n.i.c.al.S.u.p.p.o.r.t. n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47938 * Tombell * (+11799) Quickbooks Pro…help support((1800..686..6918))QuickBooks pro t.e.c.h.n.i.c.al.S.u.p.p.o.r.t. n.u.m.b.e.r
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21:39:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47940&oldid=47932 * Jeshmin * (-6776)
21:39:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47941&oldid=47937 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:39:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47942&oldid=47941 * Anisingh * (+6705)
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21:39:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks customer support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47944 * Adreacool * (+14151) Created page with "QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks customer support phone number technical support number Call....))1 800 728 7356 (((QuickBooks pro support phone number..."
21:39:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47945&oldid=47940 * Joanmariatrack * (+7876)
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21:39:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47947&oldid=47942 * Jessicasimon * (-1204)
21:40:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47948&oldid=47947 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:40:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47949&oldid=47948 * Rs306013 * (+90)
21:40:06 <izabera> looks like one of the messages was wrapped too soon by my bouncer
21:40:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks pro tech support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47950&oldid=47936 * Adreacool * (-6930)
21:40:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47951&oldid=47945 * Ajneria * (-10288)
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21:40:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47954&oldid=47953 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
21:40:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47955&oldid=47954 * Anisingh * (+7560)
21:40:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Online Support For (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)!!! QuickBooks ((Technical)) Support phone number,, QuickBooks support phone number USA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47957&oldid=47920 * Sinkukumar321 * (-1864)
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21:40:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks customer support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47960&oldid=47944 * Mhussey362 * (+4164)
21:40:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47961&oldid=47959 * Watpad6 * (-5501)
21:40:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OQRT@ (1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1)) Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Payroll remote access support phone.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47962&oldid=47943 * Mhussey362 * (+7565)
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21:40:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47964&oldid=47961 * Rs306013 * (+4474)
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21:40:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47966&oldid=47964 * Jessicasimon * (+1027)
21:40:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47967&oldid=47966 * Rs306013 * (-1027)
21:41:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47968&oldid=47967 * Anisingh * (+2231)
21:41:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47969&oldid=47968 * Watpad6 * (-6705)
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21:42:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Skype @@@@@((8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Skype Customer Service Number @@@ Skype Support Turbotax 844-307-5701 Customer Service Number @@@ Skype]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47997&oldid=47930 * Jamesamrik * (+2076)
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21:42:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks customer support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48007&oldid=47960 * Adreacool * (-4164)
21:42:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Fdfdf * moved [[User talk:Fdfdf]] to [[Turbotax @@(+1)*844.307.5701 turbotax tech support number,]]
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21:44:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Solution )) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 QUICKBOOKS SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER QUICKBOOKS CUSTOMER CARE PHONE NUMBER]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48046 * Saurav1 * (+11795) Created page with "JEEETTTTUSA@JEET (((1 866 388 3501 USA)) Quickbooks pro Support Phone Number USA call 1- 866-388-3501 to get all QUICKBOOKS account solution. @@Call, 1- 866-388-3501 for all
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21:44:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48048&oldid=47387 * Sinkukumar321 * (-2744)
21:45:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Turbotax @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Turbotax Tech Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48049&oldid=48004 * Jamesamrik * (+668)
21:45:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48050&oldid=48045 * Martinjohn1611 * (-671)
21:45:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:L.o.s. .A.n.g.e.l.e.s @@ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r. 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48051&oldid=47813 * Jeshmin * (-157)
21:45:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48052&oldid=48043 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-9860)
21:45:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:@@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48053 * Adreacool * (+11082) Created page with "@@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number Quickbooks suppor
21:45:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48054&oldid=48050 * Watpad6 * (+671)
21:45:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48055&oldid=48054 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
21:45:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[DAriya QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-9-1-9-0-9-9-2QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48056&oldid=48032 * Mhussey362 * (+9929)
21:45:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Turbotax @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Turbotax Tech Support Number]] to [[Proseries @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Proseries Tech Support Number]]
21:45:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48059&oldid=47884 * Jessicasimon * (+3270)
21:45:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48060&oldid=48055 * Rs306013 * (+945)
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21:45:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Dallas @@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48062&oldid=48039 * Rajkumar0011 * (-6057)
21:45:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Call:-@(1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)@~: QuickBooks PHONE Number 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 ~QuickBooks Support Phone Number;Quickbooks Tech Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48063&oldid=48038 * Sinkukumar321 * (-279)
21:45:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48065&oldid=48060 * Watpad6 * (-90)
21:45:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Norton Customer Support Number 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.13.2.2 Norton Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48064&oldid=48022 * Sinkukumar321 * (-827)
21:45:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[1800 213 2171Power Microsoft@outlook tech@@support phone number windows tech support number microsoft vista tech support phone numbe]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48066 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+12385) Power Microsoft@outlook tech@@support phone number windows tech support number microsoft vista tech support phone numbe here.1800 290 5189Power Microsoft@out
21:45:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Sultaan Aol phone Number 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.13.2.2 Aol Technical Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48067 * Anjuneeru1 * (+15501) QPML +¦$÷1800-860-9230 Aol technical help phone number, Aol technical help contact number, Aol technical support contact number, Aol contact number, Aol contact phone number, Aol contact telephone number, Aol 24 hour
21:45:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48068&oldid=48065 * Rs306013 * (+90)
21:46:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48069&oldid=48061 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-1272)
21:46:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Dallas @@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48070&oldid=48062 * Jeshmin * (+4693)
21:46:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48071&oldid=48030 * Jessicasimon * (+4554)
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21:46:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Johnsir414 * moved [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] to [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t
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21:46:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:@@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48077&oldid=48053 * Mhussey362 * (+7233)
21:46:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48078&oldid=48073 * Markcooper * (+1284)
21:46:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48079&oldid=48075 * Samarraj2255 * (+12900)
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21:46:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48091&oldid=48071 * Davidjohn * (-2762)
21:46:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48092&oldid=48083 * Martinjohn1611 * (+184)
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21:47:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48100&oldid=48091 * Watpad6 * (-1792)
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21:51:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48192&oldid=48190 * Wittepepobjustina * (+3520)
21:51:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OQRT@ (1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1)) Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Payroll remote access support phone.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48193&oldid=48178 * Mhussey362 * (-3255)
21:51:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48194&oldid=48192 * Mhussey362 * (+7360)
21:51:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:APNI MA KO N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.Quickbooks error TECH support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48195 * Bhojpuriya * (+12572) Created page with "Quickbooks error support++ @1+800+728+7356@ Quickbooks error tech support phone number, Quickbooks error customer service phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-80...
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21:51:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48197&oldid=48189 * Mhussey362 * (+1004)
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21:51:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline@@q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e @( 1.8.6.6.-38.8.-3.5.0.1 ) p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a/ca.n.a.d.a]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48200 * Saurav1 * (+10879) Created page with " helpline@@q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e @( 1.8.6.6.-38.8.-3.5.0.1 ) p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a/ca.n.a.d.a Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1
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21:53:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48225&oldid=48209 * Rajkumar0011 * (-17279)
21:53:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48226&oldid=48223 * Aaasssddd2 * (+297)
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21:53:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48228&oldid=48134 * Roverblanger * (+6515)
21:53:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[I.n.s.t.a.n.t c.a.l.l.@.@.+.1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1. .q.+.b. .q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.ks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48229&oldid=48213 * Mhussey362 * (-147)
21:53:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks pro support number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6@@Quickbooks customer service phon e number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48230 * Adreacool * (+11810) Created page with "Help Usa@ +1-800-728-7356...((( QuickBooks pro payroll support phone number... ~Help Usa@ +1-800-728-7356...((( QuickBooks pro support phone number... ~Help Usa@ +1-800-728-73.
21:53:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OQRT@ (1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1)) Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Payroll remote access support phone.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48231&oldid=48202 * Johnsir414 * (-13991)
21:53:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48232&oldid=48226 * Sinkukumar321 * (+6623)
21:53:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48233&oldid=48224 * Anjilojilo * (+4744)
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21:53:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48236&oldid=48228 * Jessicasimon * (-1961)
21:53:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OQRT@ (1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1)) Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Payroll remote access support phone.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48237&oldid=48231 * Johnsir414 * (+1150)
21:53:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48238&oldid=48232 * Joanmariatrack * (+19586)
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21:53:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Outlook.com @ 180.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1.support number outlook.com support phone number phone number for microsoft outlook support phone number for microsoft outlook technical support phone number for outlook support]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48241 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+21694) @@@@microsoft outlook support number zzzzzzzzzzz333microsoft outlook support ph
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21:54:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48244&oldid=48236 * Samarraj2255 * (-4554)
21:54:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48245&oldid=48240 * Anjilojilo * (+1847)
21:54:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48246&oldid=48243 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+7258)
21:54:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks ((1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2))s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48247&oldid=48242 * Martinjohn1611 * (-24327)
21:54:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48248&oldid=48245 * Rs306013 * (-2139)
21:54:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48249&oldid=48225 * Tombell * (+17455)
21:54:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48250&oldid=48248 * Mhussey362 * (+6415)
21:54:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Tech Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48251&oldid=47931 * Jamesamrik * (+43040)
21:54:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48252&oldid=48137 * Sinkukumar321 * (-19586)
21:54:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- $$$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48253&oldid=48244 * Roverblanger * (+6905)
21:54:46 -!- groteworld has joined.
21:54:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48254&oldid=48246 * Aaasssddd2 * (+1806)
21:54:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48255&oldid=48250 * Rs306013 * (-6415)
21:54:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Mozilla Thunderbird @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Mozilla Thunderbird Tech Support Number]] to [[Instagram @@@@(((1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 Instagram Tech Support Number]]
21:54:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48258&oldid=48249 * Johnsir414 * (-28207)
21:55:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48259&oldid=48254 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-1806)
21:55:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALL-USA~QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48260&oldid=48235 * Dinni555 * (-1427)
21:55:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48261&oldid=48125 * Anjilojilo * (+9090)
21:55:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:QuickBooks error tech Support Phone Number .1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3..5.6. QuickBooks error technical support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48262 * Bhojpuriya * (+10955) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+728+7356@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-80
21:55:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48263&oldid=48261 * Rs306013 * (-4744)
21:55:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48264&oldid=48258 * Mhussey362 * (+10880)
21:55:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48265&oldid=48263 * Anjilojilo * (+4744)
21:55:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks ((1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2))s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48266&oldid=48247 * Sinkukumar321 * (+4742) /* (((Quickbooks Support))) 1800-860-9230 Quickbooks HelpDesk Support Number QUickbooks Helplines Supp
21:55:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48267&oldid=48259 * Smith123 * (+1269)
21:55:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks ((1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2))s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48268&oldid=48266 * Martinjohn1611 * (-4742)
21:55:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48269&oldid=48265 * Joanmariatrack * (+18822)
21:55:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48270&oldid=48267 * Aaasssddd2 * (+537)
21:55:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] to [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]]: new content
21:55:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[Talk:QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] to [[Talk:QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]]: new content
21:55:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48275&oldid=48269 * Johnsir414 * (-26881)
21:55:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Y.A.H.O.O.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48276&oldid=48130 * Jessicasimon * (-8874)
21:56:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OQRT@ (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Quickbooks Payroll support phone number Quickbooks Payroll remote access support phone.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48277 * Ajneria * (+21583) QuickBooks payroll?? helpline phone ~@~:1 800 728 7356~@~ QuickBooks payroll?? technical support phone Number QuickBooks payroll?? phone Number. QB Helpline@))1800 728 7356@@((Qu
21:56:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48278&oldid=48275 * Johnsir414 * (-3253)
21:56:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48280 * Birendrabonde * (+5621) Created page with "Quickbooks ERROR TECH SUPPORT NUMBER!!))))1 8-8-8-513-5978!!((Quickbooks ERROR
21:56:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Y.A.H.O.O.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48279&oldid=48276 * Watpad6 * (+2369)
21:56:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48281 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+7451) Created page with "QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks p
21:56:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48282&oldid=48278 * Rs306013 * (+6568)
21:56:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline++++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48283 * Adreacool * (+10955) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+728+7356@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-728-7356@ Qu
21:56:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48284&oldid=48252 * Rajkumar0011 * (-1)
21:56:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48285&oldid=48031 * Jessicasimon * (-5318)
21:56:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48286&oldid=48282 * Johnsir414 * (-4465)
21:56:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48287&oldid=48270 * Anisingh * (+2648)
21:56:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48288&oldid=48286 * Rs306013 * (+4465)
21:56:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks ((1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2))s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48289&oldid=48268 * Martinjohn1611 * (+8703)
21:56:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48290&oldid=48186 * Joanmariatrack * (+7519)
21:56:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48291&oldid=48288 * Johnsir414 * (-4465)
21:56:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48292&oldid=48284 * Smith123 * (-3687)
21:56:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48293&oldid=48290 * Anjilojilo * (-2809)
21:56:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anurag1 * moved [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] to [[Talk:W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]]
21:57:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48296&oldid=48291 * Watpad6 * (+4375)
21:57:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48297&oldid=48281 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8429)
21:57:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48298&oldid=48287 * Anisingh * (+0)
21:57:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anjuneeru1 * moved [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] to [[QuickBooks Payrolls 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 upport phone number, QuickBooks pro tech support number]]: better content
21:57:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ajneria * moved [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] to [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]]
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21:57:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks **1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0**tech support phone number with QuickBooks Pro support phone number @@!!!pREMIER nUMBER]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48307 * Joanmariatrack * (+16561) Created page with "((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quickbooks Customer service phone number… here. ((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer car
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21:57:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48314&oldid=48312 * Anjilojilo * (+6776)
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21:58:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Y.A.H.O.O.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48317&oldid=48306 * Dinni555 * (-2374)
21:58:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48318&oldid=48310 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
21:58:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48319&oldid=48313 * Johnsir414 * (-10880)
21:58:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48320&oldid=48314 * Jessicasimon * (-166)
21:58:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrolls 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 upport phone number, QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48321&oldid=48299 * Anisingh * (+0)
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21:58:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[❶ ❽66 3❽❽ 3501 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48323&oldid=48308 * Jamesamrik * (+34243)
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21:59:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48351&oldid=48350 * Anjilojilo * (-1296)
21:59:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48352&oldid=48351 * Jessicasimon * (+1296)
21:59:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48353&oldid=48352 * Watpad6 * (-3525)
21:59:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48354&oldid=48353 * Jeshmin * (-1942)
21:59:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48355&oldid=48354 * Jessicasimon * (+5467)
21:59:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Pro Number ((1/8/8/8/2/2/6/1/3/2/2/))Quickbooks Customer Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48356 * Anjuneeru1 * (+7558) QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.8.8.2.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 QuickBooks pro tech support number QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.8.8.2.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 QuickBooks pro tech support number @@Call, 1-800
21:59:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48357&oldid=48355 * Rs306013 * (-3435)
21:59:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FlOrIdA@DaIl)) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S S.U.P.P.O.R.T P.H.O.N.E N.U.M.B.E.R Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S C.U.S.T.O.M.E.R C.A.R.E P.H.O.N.E .N.U.M.B.E.R]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48358 * Saurav1 * (+11955) Created page with "FlOrIdA@DaIl)) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S S.U.P.P.O.R.T P.H.O.N.E N.U.M.B.E.R Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S C.U.S
21:59:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48359&oldid=48349 * Dinni555 * (-1624)
21:59:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48360&oldid=48357 * Jessicasimon * (+3435)
22:00:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48361&oldid=48303 * Sinkukumar321 * (-3962)
22:00:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48362&oldid=48360 * Aaasssddd2 * (-6078)
22:00:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48363&oldid=48362 * Jessicasimon * (+6078)
22:00:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48364&oldid=48363 * Rs306013 * (-3435)
22:00:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48366&oldid=48343 * Pokoman * (+7444)
22:00:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48367&oldid=48346 * Birendrabonde * (+13376)
22:00:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48368&oldid=48364 * Jessicasimon * (+3435)
22:00:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] to [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2((QuickBooks Help desk number]]: better content
22:00:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Illinois Indiana New Hampshire 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ACCOUNTANT Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48371&oldid=48344 * Mhussey362 * (+968)
22:00:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48372&oldid=48366 * Joanmariatrack * (-1838)
22:00:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48373&oldid=48368 * Anjilojilo * (-1296)
22:00:25 -!- Xe has left ("invite me when the spam is over").
22:00:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48374&oldid=48373 * Rs306013 * (-2139)
22:00:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48375&oldid=48372 * Wittepepobjustina * (-5606)
22:00:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48376&oldid=48374 * Jessicasimon * (+3435)
22:00:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48377&oldid=48369 * AshfordAston * (+4)
22:00:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[RATE OF 1.8.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1 microsoft office tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48378 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+10614) microsoft outlook contactmicrosoft windows technical support phone number microsoft outlook contact detailsmicrosoft word tech support phone number microsoft outlook contact infomicrosoft word technical support pho
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22:00:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48380&oldid=47638 * Anurag1 * (+0)
22:00:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48381&oldid=48376 * Anjilojilo * (+1309)
22:00:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48382&oldid=48381 * Jeshmin * (-6776)
22:00:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quicbooks Support ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)@@!!!Phone Number,Quickbooks tech Support phone Number@@@!@!!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48383 * Joanmariatrack * (+10814) Created page with "Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-800-860-9230@ QuickBooks tech support number QuickBooks pro 2014 support phone USA, payroll support here.Describe @@Tollfree 1-800-8
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22:00:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48385&oldid=48382 * Rs306013 * (+2032)
22:01:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALL-USA~QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48386&oldid=48260 * Markcooper * (-1843)
22:01:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48387&oldid=48385 * Jessicasimon * (+3435)
22:01:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48388&oldid=48384 * Dinni555 * (+7379)
22:01:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks pro support number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6@@Quickbooks customer service phon e number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48389&oldid=48230 * Anjuneeru1 * (-4252) QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.8.8.2.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 QuickBooks pro tech support number QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.8.8.2.2.2.6.1.3.2.2 QuickBooks pro tech
22:01:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48390&oldid=48387 * Jeshmin * (-5467)
22:01:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48391&oldid=48388 * Wittepepobjustina * (-3982)
22:01:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48392&oldid=48390 * Jessicasimon * (+5467)
22:01:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FlOrIdA@DaIl)) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S S.U.P.P.O.R.T P.H.O.N.E N.U.M.B.E.R Q.U.I.C.K.B.O.O.K.S C.U.S.T.O.M.E.R C.A.R.E P.H.O.N.E .N.U.M.B.E.R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48393&oldid=48358 * Mhussey362 * (+6360)
22:01:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48394&oldid=48392 * Jeshmin * (-5467)
22:01:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48395&oldid=48394 * Jessicasimon * (+5467)
22:01:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48396&oldid=48395 * Rajkumar0011 * (-4380)
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22:02:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[World of q+b( q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r !!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48402 * Saurav1 * (+11900) Created page with "World of q+b( q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1 c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r !! JEEETTTTUSA@JEET (((1 866 388 3501 USA)) Quickbooks pro Support Phon
22:02:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48403&oldid=48400 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:02:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48404&oldid=48367 * Mhussey362 * (-6871)
22:02:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48405&oldid=48403 * Anjilojilo * (+2229)
22:02:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48407&oldid=48405 * Jessicasimon * (-3084)
22:02:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48409&oldid=48271 * Anurag1 * (+0)
22:02:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48410&oldid=48407 * Anjilojilo * (+3084)
22:02:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quicbooks Support ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)@@!!!Phone Number,Quickbooks tech Support phone Number@@@!@!!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48411&oldid=48383 * Sinkukumar321 * (+5066)
22:02:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48412&oldid=48410 * Jessicasimon * (-3084)
22:02:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] to [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-
22:02:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] to [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s
22:02:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anjuneeru1 * moved [[Dallas @@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]] to [[Dallas @@ Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Number Philadelphia @@ 1-8-8-8-2-2-61-3-2-2 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number]]: better content
22:02:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48419&oldid=48412 * Anjilojilo * (+3084)
22:02:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48420&oldid=48414 * Martinjohn1611 * (+11462)
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22:02:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48421&oldid=48391 * Anisingh * (+855)
22:02:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48422&oldid=48419 * Jessicasimon * (-3084)
22:03:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48423&oldid=48420 * Watpad6 * (+144)
22:03:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48424&oldid=48413 * Smith123 * (-9595)
22:03:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TFN 1.8.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1 aol mail tech support phone number maol mail tech support phone number aol mail support phone number aol mail publisher technical support aol mail technical support aol mail technical support calling me microso]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48425 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+9745) aol billing phone number aol broadband contact ao
22:03:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48426&oldid=48415 * AshfordAston * (+12698)
22:03:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48427&oldid=48421 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
22:03:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48428&oldid=48397 * Joanmariatrack * (-2479)
22:03:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CALL-USA~QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48429&oldid=48386 * Dinni555 * (+1843)
22:03:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.b.+w.o.r.l.d ( Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s @ c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e@ ph.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r, )]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48430 * Saurav1 * (+11134) Created page with "Q.b.+w.o.r.l.d ( Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s @ c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e@ ph.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r, ) QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1 QuickBooks support telephone num..."
22:03:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quicbooks Support ((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)@@!!!Phone Number,Quickbooks tech Support phone Number@@@!@!!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48431&oldid=48411 * Mhussey362 * (+2435)
22:03:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48432&oldid=48416 * Martinjohn1611 * (+11457)
22:03:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48434&oldid=48428 * Aaasssddd2 * (-1557)
22:03:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anjuneeru1 * moved [[QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] to [[QuickBooks 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2.Payrollsupport phone number, QuickBooks pro tech support number]]: better content
22:03:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48436&oldid=48422 * Jeshmin * (-1087)
22:03:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks tech support number (((1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2))))@ Quickbooks Support P.hone n.umber,1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2 Quickbooks customer support phone n.umber]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48437&oldid=47706 * Susu123 * (+11655)
22:03:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48438 * Bhojpuriya * (+7452) Created page with "@@Call, 1-800-728 -7356 for all type help by Quickbook.s tech support phone number, Intuit Qui
22:03:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks support phone number,quickbooks support telephone number for support@QuickBooks Toll Free]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48439 * Joanmariatrack * (+10931) Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1+800+860+9230@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer service phone number Describe Account Help
22:03:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ajneria * moved [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] to [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-
22:03:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ajneria * moved [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] to [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-
22:04:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anjuneeru1 * moved [[Talk:Quickbooks pro support number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6@@Quickbooks customer service phon e number]] to [[Talk:Quickbooks pro 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 support number @@Quickbooks customer service phon e number]]: better content
22:04:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48446&oldid=48434 * Birendrabonde * (-3636)
22:04:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks tech support number (((1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2))))@ Quickbooks Support P.hone n.umber,1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2 Quickbooks customer support phone n.umber]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48447&oldid=48437 * Markcooper * (-1401)
22:04:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48448&oldid=48440 * Ajneria * (+0)
22:04:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks.T.F.N 1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2 Quickbooks P-r-o TECH s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48449&oldid=48161 * Susu123 * (+2461)
22:04:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 Quickbooks support phone number,quickbooks support telephone number for support@QuickBooks Toll Free]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48450&oldid=48439 * Sinkukumar321 * (+4949)
22:04:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48451&oldid=48255 * Anurag1 * (+0)
22:04:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48452&oldid=48424 * Dinni555 * (+6217)
22:04:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48453&oldid=48409 * Martinjohn1611 * (-2009)
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22:04:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48454&oldid=48448 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
22:04:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48455 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+7451) Created page with "QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks pro tech support number @@Call, 1-800-860-9230 for all type help by QUICKBOOKS tech support phone
22:04:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48456&oldid=48441 * Jeshmin * (+9665)
22:04:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48457&oldid=48451 * Markcooper * (+2859)
22:04:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48458&oldid=48456 * Watpad6 * (+1942)
22:04:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48459&oldid=48453 * Smith123 * (+311)
22:04:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48460&oldid=47840 * Davidjohn * (-2)
22:05:05 <Kaynato> I think we may have a problem...??
22:05:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@ROUDY RATHOUR 1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48461&oldid=47489 * Anurag1 * (+234)
22:05:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48462&oldid=48452 * Anisingh * (-6217)
22:05:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0-0-9-1-9 0-9-9-2intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48463&oldid=48101 * Susu123 * (+7774)
22:05:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48464&oldid=48458 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
22:05:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48465&oldid=48272 * Markcooper * (+14656)
22:05:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[W.W.W.C.O.M)))1-8.6.6-3.8.8-3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48466&oldid=48436 * Jessicasimon * (+1087)
22:05:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Illinois Indiana New Hampshire 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ACCOUNTANT Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48467&oldid=48371 * Roverblanger * (+400)
22:05:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48468&oldid=48465 * Watpad6 * (-2949)
22:05:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48469&oldid=48464 * Jeshmin * (-1942)
22:05:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks®Official$$$((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))$$$Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Tech Support phone Number!~!~!((QB))......]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48470 * Joanmariatrack * (+17744) Created page with "QuickBooks PRO phone number,(1~800~860~9230)// QuickBooks PRO customer care number..... QuickBooks PRO Toll Free, Intuit@(1~800.860
22:05:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-9-1-9-0-9-9-2QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48471&oldid=47746 * Susu123 * (-2155)
22:05:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Tech Help 1.8.0.0.0.2.1.3.2.1.7.1 windows tech support number windows tech support phone number microsoft windows tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48472 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+13674) window xp technical supportwindows xp technical support numberwindow vista technical support numberwindow 7 technical supportwindow 7 technical su
22:05:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48473&oldid=48455 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8429)
22:06:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48474&oldid=48469 * AshfordAston * (+8451)
22:06:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48475&oldid=48459 * Dinni555 * (+5680)
22:06:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48476&oldid=48473 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8429)
22:06:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rajkumar0011 * moved [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] to [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-
22:06:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48479&oldid=48370 * Watpad6 * (+11711)
22:06:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48480&oldid=48478 * Birendrabonde * (+5622)
22:06:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48481&oldid=48480 * Jeshmin * (+4040)
22:06:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48482&oldid=48477 * Rajkumar0011 * (-2440)
22:06:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Wittepepobjustina * moved [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@1-8.8.8+2.2.6.+1.3.2.2((QuickBooks Help desk number]] to [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@((QuickBooks Help desk number]]
22:06:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48485&oldid=48285 * Markcooper * (+3653)
22:06:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48486&oldid=48481 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-2417)
22:06:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-9-1-9-0-9-9-2QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48487&oldid=48471 * Mhussey362 * (+2155)
22:06:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@ 1-8-6-6-388-3501...((( QuickBooks support phone number...]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48488 * Jessicasimon * (+15335) Created page with "USA@JEETôßPππu◙ 1 866 388 3501 Quickbooks Support Phone Number US 1866-388-3501 quickbooks technical help telephone number, quickbooks technical help contact numbe
22:06:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48489&oldid=48476 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8429)
22:06:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48490&oldid=48482 * Mhussey362 * (+2436)
22:06:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48491&oldid=48486 * Anisingh * (+1268)
22:07:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48492&oldid=48468 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
22:07:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48493&oldid=48491 * Smith123 * (+366)
22:07:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48494&oldid=48489 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8429)
22:07:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48495&oldid=48492 * Dinni555 * (-3378)
22:07:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.))Quickbooks 24/7 PRO SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks POS telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48496&oldid=47680 * Samarraj2255 * (-6505)
22:07:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48497&oldid=48493 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-1634)
22:07:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@G*****YE M*R L***E1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48498&oldid=47566 * Davidjohn * (+1840)
22:07:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1 QuickBooks support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48499 * Saurav1 * (+11033) Created page with "QuickBooks Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1 QuickBooks support phone number Quickbooks support++ @1+866+388+3501@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks customer s..."
22:07:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jessicasimon * moved [[QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@ 1-8-6-6-388-3501...((( QuickBooks support phone number...]] to [[QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@@ 1-8-6-6-388-3501...((( QuickBooks support phone number...]]
22:07:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[❶ ❽66 3❽❽ 3501 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48501&oldid=48328 * Anurag1 * (+11799)
22:07:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48503&oldid=48497 * Jeshmin * (+2417)
22:07:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48504 * Aaasssddd2 * (+9257) Created page with "(((((((( Quickbooks @! technical @! support @! phone @! number 1-888-513-5978@! Quickbooks @! technical @! support @! number1-888-513-5978 @! Quickbooks @! tech @! suppo
22:07:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks®Official$$$((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))$$$Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Tech Support phone Number!~!~!((QB))......]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48505&oldid=48470 * Sinkukumar321 * (-1864)
22:07:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48506&oldid=48503 * Martinjohn1611 * (-922)
22:07:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jessicasimon * moved [[QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@@ 1-8-6-6-388-3501...((( QuickBooks support phone number...]] to [[QuickBooks support phone number... ~Help Usa@@@ 1-8-6-6-388-3501...((( QuickBooks support phone number...]]
22:07:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Anjuneeru1 * moved [[Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.))Quickbooks 24/7 PRO SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks POS telephone number]] to [[Help@C@ll @@1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2.))Quickbooks 24/7 PRO SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks POS telephone number]]: better content
22:07:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48511&oldid=48506 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-1495)
22:07:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48512 * Adreacool * (+7449) Created page with "QuickBooks Payrollsupport phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number @@Call, 1-800-728-7356 for all type help
22:07:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48513&oldid=48511 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:08:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48514&oldid=48483 * Wittepepobjustina * (+1698)
22:08:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Sun Bauaa Jaaye De... Mississippi, Connecticut,Washington 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks. Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48515&oldid=47897 * Anurag1 * (-6815)
22:08:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48516&oldid=48513 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:08:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48517&oldid=48490 * Sinkukumar321 * (-2435)
22:08:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:APNI MA KO N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.Quickbooks error TECH support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48518&oldid=48195 * Jamesamrik * (+30928)
22:08:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48519&oldid=48516 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:08:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48521&oldid=48519 * Birendrabonde * (-6189)
22:08:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48522&oldid=48517 * Martinjohn1611 * (-8882)
22:08:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48523&oldid=48495 * Watpad6 * (-3127)
22:08:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48524 * Bhojpuriya * (+7847) Created page with "@@Call, 1-800-728 -7356 for all type help by Quickbook.s tech support phone number, I
22:08:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48525&oldid=47776 * Anurag1 * (-6724)
22:08:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48527&oldid=48521 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+1830)
22:08:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jamesamrik * moved [[Talk:APNI MA KO N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.Quickbooks error TECH support Phone Number]] to [[Talk:Quickooks 1.8.4.4.3.0.7.5.7.0.1 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number]]
22:08:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48530&oldid=48527 * Rajkumar0011 * (+0)
22:08:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Jessicasimon * moved [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] to [[Talk:QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8--8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]]
22:09:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48533&oldid=48485 * Anisingh * (+0)
22:09:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48534&oldid=48530 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8429)
22:09:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48535&oldid=48460 * Susu123 * (+4231)
22:09:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48536&oldid=48454 * Samarraj2255 * (-6505)
22:09:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48537&oldid=48494 * Smith123 * (+4741)
22:09:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48538&oldid=48534 * Watpad6 * (-4070)
22:09:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48539&oldid=48535 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8709)
22:09:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Number 1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6 QuickBooks support telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48540&oldid=48525 * Martinjohn1611 * (-4902)
22:09:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48541&oldid=48533 * Joanmariatrack * (+20631)
22:09:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48542&oldid=48537 * Wittepepobjustina * (-1237)
22:09:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48543&oldid=48512 * Mhussey362 * (+10866)
22:09:35 <int-e> Kaynato: yes, we're fresh out of active wiki admins
22:09:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48544&oldid=48542 * Markcooper * (+2139)
22:09:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks OK 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48545 * Adreacool * (+12067) Created page with "Quickbooks OK 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro p.h.o.n.
22:09:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-6-6-3-8-8-5-0-1)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48546&oldid=48522 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8882)
22:09:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[(((1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2))))@ Quickbooks Support P.hone n.umber,1-8.0.0-9.1.9-0.9.9.2 Quickbooks customer support phone n.umber]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48547&oldid=47704 * Susu123 * (+5021)
22:09:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48548&oldid=48541 * Anisingh * (-20631)
22:09:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48549&oldid=48536 * Ajneria * (+0)
22:09:51 <Kaynato> Anything we can do about this?
22:09:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.8.2 !!!facebook Tech Support Number 1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.8.2 +++facebook Technical Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48550 * AshfordAston * (+14795) Created page with "facebook Tech Support Number1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.8.2 facebook Tech Support Phone Number1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.8.2 facebook Technical Support Number1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.
22:09:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r h.e.l.p ))) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1. Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48551 * Saurav1 * (+7430) Created page with "@@Call, 1-866-388-3501 for all type help by Quickbook.s tech support phone number, Intuit Quickbook.s Tech Support Phone N
22:09:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48552&oldid=48524 * Martinjohn1611 * (+3819)
22:09:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48553&oldid=48544 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5643)
22:10:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48555&oldid=48538 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:10:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48556&oldid=48553 * Markcooper * (+5643)
22:10:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48557&oldid=48548 * Davidjohn * (+5694)
22:10:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks Support phone number @@((QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48558&oldid=48514 * Anurag1 * (+945)
22:10:16 <shachaf> /ignore
22:10:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48559&oldid=48555 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:10:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48560&oldid=48556 * Wittepepobjustina * (-2139)
22:10:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48561&oldid=48549 * Pokoman * (+0)
22:10:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48562&oldid=48560 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3504)
22:10:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48563&oldid=48559 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:10:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48564&oldid=48561 * Rajkumar0011 * (-4359)
22:10:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r h.e.l.p ))) 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1. Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48565&oldid=48551 * Martinjohn1611 * (+4236)
22:10:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[((1-8-7-7-7-7-8-8-7-1-4)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48566&oldid=48557 * Anisingh * (-5694)
22:10:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48567&oldid=48562 * Wittepepobjustina * (+3504)
22:10:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48569&oldid=48539 * Sinkukumar321 * (+3567)
22:10:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[~HeLp~USA((QB))^^^1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0^^^Quickbooks tech Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number((QB))..]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48570 * Joanmariatrack * (+33725) Created page with "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO phone
22:10:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48571&oldid=48563 * Dinni555 * (+7486)
22:10:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48572&oldid=48567 * Smith123 * (+1237)
22:10:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48573&oldid=48569 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3567)
22:11:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48574&oldid=48564 * Martinjohn1611 * (+4215)
22:11:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48575&oldid=48572 * Wittepepobjustina * (-1237)
22:11:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48576&oldid=48571 * Watpad6 * (-3127)
22:11:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48577&oldid=48264 * Susu123 * (+0)
22:11:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48578&oldid=48576 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:11:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48579&oldid=48574 * Ajneria * (+144)
22:11:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48580&oldid=48575 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3504)
22:11:23 <int-e> Nothing useful, I think, besides ignore and waiting for oerjan (who else is there? boily? fizzie, perhaps? Gregor?)
22:11:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48581&oldid=48580 * Wittepepobjustina * (+3504)
22:11:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48582&oldid=48577 * Martinjohn1611 * (-6649)
22:11:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[~HeLp~USA((QB))^^^1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0^^^Quickbooks tech Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number((QB))..]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48583&oldid=48570 * Sinkukumar321 * (-17845)
22:11:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48584&oldid=48578 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:11:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48585&oldid=48581 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3504)
22:11:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48586&oldid=48438 * Pokoman * (+4462)
22:11:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48587&oldid=48584 * Dinni555 * (+3127)
22:11:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k. s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48588&oldid=47621 * Pokoman * (+2955)
22:11:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48589 * Adreacool * (+18788) Created page with "elpline TECH ))1-800-728-7356((quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro technical support phone number quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro phone
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22:11:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48591&oldid=48587 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-7486)
22:11:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@G*****YE M*R L***E1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number@. quickbooks Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48592&oldid=48498 * Susu123 * (+7529)
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22:11:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48595&oldid=48591 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:12:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[~HeLp~USA((QB))^^^1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0^^^Quickbooks tech Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number((QB))..]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48596&oldid=48583 * Martinjohn1611 * (-5320)
22:12:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48597&oldid=48593 * Anurag1 * (-7833)
22:12:12 <int-e> oh wasn't there another one, mke perhaps?
22:12:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48598&oldid=48597 * Wittepepobjustina * (+0)
22:12:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r (1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k. s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48599&oldid=48588 * Mhussey362 * (+6401)
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22:12:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Jessicasimon * uploaded "[[File:LQBVE..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number.png]]": USA@JEETôßPππu◙ 1 866 388 3501 Quickbooks Support Phone Number US 1866-388-3501 quickbooks technical help telephone number, quickbooks technical help contact number, quickboo
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22:12:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48606&oldid=48586 * Mhussey362 * (+6401)
22:12:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@brainfuck @1.8.0*0*9.1.9.0.9.9.*2.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.ok.s. .T.e.c.h. .S.u.p.po.r.t. .P.h.o.n.e. .N.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48607&oldid=48012 * Susu123 * (+4202)
22:12:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48608&oldid=48595 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:12:41 -!- adu has joined.
22:12:41 <int-e> but many of these people are not around anymore.
22:12:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48609&oldid=48573 * Sinkukumar321 * (+8429)
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22:12:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QUICKBOOKS SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48611 * Roverblanger * (+3914) Created page with "'''1 888 513 5978'''<big>1 888 513 5978</big> QUICKBOOKS SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER, '''1 888 513 5978'''<big>1 888 513 5978</big> QUICKBOOKS SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER, '''1 888 513 5978..."
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22:12:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48613&oldid=48610 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5643)
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22:12:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48616&oldid=48601 * Davidjohn * (+508)
22:13:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48617&oldid=48616 * Joanmariatrack * (+20123)
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22:13:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48619&oldid=48608 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
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22:13:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48623&oldid=48617 * Markcooper * (-20631)
22:13:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:K-A-R-M-A D-H-A-R-M-A $$1-8-6-6--3-8-8- 3-5-0-1$$Q-U-I-C-K-B-O-O-K-S S-U-P-P-O-R-T P-H-O-N-E N-U-M-B-E-R- Q-U-I-C-K-B-OO-K-S -P-H-O-N-E -N-U-M-B-E-R]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48624&oldid=48609 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8429)
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22:13:23 <shachaf> A channel op could KickEgo
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22:13:29 <shachaf> But they're not here either.
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22:13:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48633&oldid=48630 * Adreacool * (+257)
22:13:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48634&oldid=48628 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+2)
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22:13:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48636&oldid=48627 * Markcooper * (+5643)
22:13:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48637&oldid=48632 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3504)
22:13:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48639&oldid=48633 * Markcooper * (+1027)
22:13:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48640&oldid=48636 * Watpad6 * (-1284)
22:13:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48641&oldid=48637 * Wittepepobjustina * (+3504)
22:14:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48642&oldid=48640 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:14:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48643&oldid=48639 * Ajneria * (-1284)
22:14:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48644&oldid=48641 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3504)
22:14:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-e-m-i-r c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48645&oldid=48631 * Mhussey362 * (+5230)
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22:14:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48654&oldid=48606 * Samarraj2255 * (-6505)
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22:14:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48656&oldid=48651 * Smith123 * (+3464)
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22:14:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48658&oldid=48652 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
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22:14:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48661&oldid=48660 * Joanmariatrack * (+5228)
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22:15:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48663&oldid=48658 * Markcooper * (+5643)
22:15:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48664&oldid=48659 * Watpad6 * (+4025)
22:15:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48665&oldid=48654 * Watpad6 * (+0)
22:15:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48666&oldid=48661 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8708)
22:15:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48667&oldid=48649 * Sinkukumar321 * (-279)
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22:15:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48669&oldid=48650 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-11337)
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22:15:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48671&oldid=48662 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
22:15:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48672&oldid=48668 * Markcooper * (-1843)
22:15:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48673&oldid=48666 * Anisingh * (+3480)
22:15:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[UmberIntuit-(1-8-0-0-*9.1.9-0.9.9.2).Inuit QuickBooks Tech Support Phone Number provides online solution]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48674&oldid=47787 * Susu123 * (-13642)
22:15:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48675&oldid=48671 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:15:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48676&oldid=48665 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
22:15:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48677&oldid=48672 * Rajkumar0011 * (-5643)
22:15:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48678&oldid=48675 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
22:15:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48679&oldid=48678 * Adreacool * (+7833)
22:15:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48680&oldid=48677 * Davidjohn * (+14135)
22:16:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48681&oldid=48679 * Wittepepobjustina * (-7833)
22:16:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48682&oldid=48673 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-3480)
22:16:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48683&oldid=48681 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:16:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48684&oldid=48680 * Ajneria * (-9776)
22:16:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48685&oldid=48523 * Dinni555 * (+3127)
22:16:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48686&oldid=48684 * Adreacool * (+6978)
22:16:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48687&oldid=48663 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5643)
22:16:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48688&oldid=48683 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
22:16:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48689&oldid=48686 * Martinjohn1611 * (-7122)
22:16:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48690&oldid=48676 * Bhojpuriya * (+1055)
22:16:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48691&oldid=48688 * Mhussey362 * (+7360)
22:16:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Quickbooks.T.F.N 1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2 Quickbooks P-r-o TECH s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e n-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48692&oldid=48449 * Susu123 * (+2155)
22:16:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48693&oldid=48691 * Wittepepobjustina * (-7360)
22:16:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48694&oldid=48689 * Watpad6 * (+144)
22:16:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.8.8.2.2.6.1.3.2.2.Payrollsupport phone number, QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48695&oldid=48433 * Anurag1 * (+0)
22:16:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48696&oldid=48682 * Markcooper * (+5643)
22:16:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48697&oldid=48693 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:16:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48698&oldid=48694 * Markcooper * (+1284)
22:16:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48699&oldid=48698 * Watpad6 * (-1284)
22:16:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48700&oldid=48696 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5643)
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22:16:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48702&oldid=48669 * Adreacool * (+11337)
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22:16:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48705&oldid=48690 * Watpad6 * (-1055)
22:16:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48706&oldid=48699 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
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22:17:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48708&oldid=48701 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:17:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-8-6-0-9-2-3-0)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48709&oldid=48703 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-5643)
22:17:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48710&oldid=48708 * Wittepepobjustina * (-855)
22:17:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks OK 1-8.0.0-7.2.8-7.3.5.6 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s pro p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48711&oldid=48545 * Pokoman * (-256)
22:17:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 pro support phone number, 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48712&oldid=47823 * Anurag1 * (+3389)
22:17:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48713&oldid=48706 * Roverblanger * (-15221)
22:17:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48714&oldid=48700 * Markcooper * (+7308)
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22:17:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48720&oldid=48713 * Watpad6 * (+8716)
22:17:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48721&oldid=48714 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-7308)
22:17:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48722&oldid=48719 * Wittepepobjustina * (-4380)
22:17:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48723&oldid=48722 * Watpad6 * (+855)
22:17:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@aaya tera baap @big B 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro tech support phone number @NYC LONDON 1 8-8-8-513-5978 Quickbooks pro support number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48724&oldid=47623 * Anurag1 * (-38975)
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22:18:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s tech s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48743&oldid=48732 * Martinjohn1611 * (-2270)
22:18:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48744&oldid=48739 * Joanmariatrack * (+5204)
22:19:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48745&oldid=48742 * Ajneria * (+0)
22:19:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48746&oldid=48741 * Markcooper * (-1121)
22:19:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48747&oldid=48744 * Dinni555 * (-1222)
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22:19:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48751&oldid=48746 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-7308)
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22:19:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48753&oldid=48747 * Watpad6 * (-3127)
22:19:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks pro 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 support number @@Quickbooks customer service phon e number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48754&oldid=48444 * Pokoman * (+4356)
22:19:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48755&oldid=48705 * Samarraj2255 * (+0)
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22:22:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48811&oldid=48788 * Jessicasimon * (+29)
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22:23:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48820&oldid=48811 * Joanmariatrack * (+1284)
22:23:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Chacha * New user account
22:23:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48821&oldid=48814 * Watpad6 * (-7422) Replaced content with "teri ma ki chut bhan ke lode"
22:23:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ajneria * moved [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] to [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]]
22:23:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@@@++****Quickbooks Help@Call 1-8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks 24/7 pAYROLL support pone number,@@@Quickbooks telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48824&oldid=48817 * Roverblanger * (-7882)
22:23:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[M*o*r*n*i*n**g d*e*t*a ( Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s @ c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e@ ph.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r,]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48825 * Saurav1 * (+11141) Created page with "M*o*r*n*i*n**g d*e*t*a ( Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s @ c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e@ ph.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r, QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-6-6-3-8-8-3-5-0-1 QuickBooks support teleph..."
22:23:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48826&oldid=48821 * Rajkumar0011 * (+7422)
22:23:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48827&oldid=48822 * Ajneria * (+4359)
22:23:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48828&oldid=48823 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+7337)
22:23:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48829&oldid=48820 * Dinni555 * (+4180)
22:23:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[HA BOLO Bhai N.e.b.r.a.s.k.a.1.8.6.6.3.8.8.3.5.0.1.Quickbooks support Phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48830&oldid=48205 * Anurag1 * (+9458)
22:23:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:VIDEO+SONGS)) 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QUICKBOOKS TECH SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER QUICKBOOKS CUSTOMER CARE PHONE NUMBER]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48831 * Bhojpuriya * (+14942) Created page with "JEEETTTTUSA@JEET (((1 800 7287356 USA)) Quickbooks enterprise enterprise Support Phone Number USA call 1- 800-728-7356 to get all QUICKBOOKS ENTERPRISE ac
22:23:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48832&oldid=48826 * Jeshmin * (+4348)
22:24:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48833&oldid=48827 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
22:24:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks support Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48834 * Joanmariatrack * (+19453) Created page with "Help USA 1 800 860 9230 Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number And Quickbooks Support Number 1~800~860~9230 Quickb
22:24:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48835&oldid=48828 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:24:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48836&oldid=48832 * Rajkumar0011 * (-4348)
22:24:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s tech s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48837&oldid=48743 * Pokoman * (+6743)
22:24:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.@@))Quickbooks 24/7 PAYROLL SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks PAYROLL telephone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48838&oldid=48816 * Susu123 * (-1)
22:24:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48839&oldid=48835 * Sinkukumar321 * (+4070)
22:24:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48840&oldid=48836 * Anisingh * (+7309)
22:24:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48841&oldid=48840 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-7308)
22:24:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ICLOUD Phone Number 1 8.0.0 2.1.3 2.1.7.1 USA CANADA, ICLOUD 360 Support Phone Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48842 * Sfdsfdsfdsfdsf * (+8108) The ICLOUD Customer Phone Number 1 800 213 2171 ICLOUD Tech Support Phone Number ICLOUD Helpdesk Number USA & Canada here. ICLOUD Customer Care Number,ICLOUD Help Desk Number & ICLOUD Tech Support Phone Nu
22:24:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48843&oldid=48839 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-8429)
22:24:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48844&oldid=48833 * Martinjohn1611 * (-9369)
22:24:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks ((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Quickbooks helpline phone number Quickbooks help desk phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48845 * Adreacool * (+18789) Created page with "Helpline TECH ))1-800-728-7356((quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro technical support phone number quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro phone number QB SUPPORT ON ((1-800-728-735
22:24:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48846&oldid=48819 * Dinni555 * (+5849)
22:24:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .t.e.c.h.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48847&oldid=48829 * Roverblanger * (+3391)
22:24:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48848&oldid=48841 * Rajkumar0011 * (-1)
22:24:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48849&oldid=48843 * Watpad6 * (-7423) Replaced content with "teri ma ki chut bhan ke lode"
22:24:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Illinois Indiana New Hampshire 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ACCOUNTANT Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48850&oldid=48467 * Anurag1 * (+0)
22:24:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48851&oldid=48848 * Samarraj2255 * (-7424) Replaced content with "tumhari maa ki chut chhodo "
22:25:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48852&oldid=48851 * Watpad6 * (+2)
22:25:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks support Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48853&oldid=48834 * Sinkukumar321 * (-3573)
22:25:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48854&oldid=48849 * Mhussey362 * (+18287)
22:25:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48855&oldid=48852 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (+7423)
22:25:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48856&oldid=48854 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-10864)
22:25:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48857&oldid=48844 * Ajneria * (+2864)
22:25:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48858&oldid=48855 * Rajkumar0011 * (-1)
22:25:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48859&oldid=48858 * Smith123 * (+4742)
22:25:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48860&oldid=48859 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4741)
22:25:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48861&oldid=48856 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
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22:25:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Quickbooks ~~!!1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6!!~~ Quickbooks customer service phone number Quickbooks pro tech support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48862 * Adreacool * (+18789) Created page with "Helpline TECH ))1-800-728-7356((quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro technical support phone number quick.book.s 1.800.728.7356 pro phone number QB SUPPORT
22:25:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48863&oldid=48860 * Watpad6 * (+4359)
22:25:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[@bhotni ke@1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.ks. .T.e.ch. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48864 * Birendrabonde * (+24965) Created page with "Quickbooks TECH..Support !!!~~~...... (1.888..513..5978) QuickBooks Phone Number and QuickBooks support helpline number Point where =CAll 1888 513 5978=Quickbooks support p
22:25:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48865&oldid=48863 * Anisingh * (+2949)
22:26:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s tech s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48866&oldid=48837 * AshfordAston * (-7)
22:26:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48867&oldid=48755 * Samarraj2255 * (-11773) Replaced content with "tumhari bahan ki chut sale chod dunga"
22:26:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48868&oldid=48589 * Pokoman * (-6874)
22:26:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48869&oldid=48865 * Watpad6 * (-2949)
22:26:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48870&oldid=48861 * Mhussey362 * (+6505)
22:26:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48871&oldid=48869 * Ajneria * (+0)
22:26:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 QuickBooks Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Help desk number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48872&oldid=48870 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-10864)
22:26:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Y*o*g*a*b*h*y*a*s*a*m*1**+8.6.6.+3.8.8.+3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48873&oldid=48798 * Saurav1 * (+13144)
22:26:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-2-2-6-1-3-2-2 QuickBooks pro support phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48874&oldid=48748 * Dinni555 * (-1430)
22:26:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48875&oldid=48871 * Rayanmoorejun23 * (-4359)
22:26:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48876&oldid=48868 * Roverblanger * (+6801)
22:26:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s c-u-s-t-o-m-e-r S-u-p-p-o-r-t ph-one N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48877&oldid=48876 * Martinjohn1611 * (-9769)
22:26:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * AshfordAston * moved [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s tech s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r,i.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e. n.u.m.b.e.r]] to [[Talk:P.R.e.m.i.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t1.8.5.5.2.8.8.0.0.8.2.intuit Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s tech s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b
22:26:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48880&oldid=48875 * Rajkumar0011 * (-1)
22:26:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Y*o*g*a*b*h*y*a*s*a*m*1**+8.6.6.+3.8.8.+3.5.0.1 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48881&oldid=48873 * Ajneria * (-6505)
22:27:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks support phone number,quickbooks Pro support phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48882 * Joanmariatrack * (+16561) Created page with "((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quickbooks Customer service phone number… here. ((1800 860 9230)) Quickbooks Customer care phone Number, Quic
22:27:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s s-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r ((1-8-0-0-7-2-8-7-3-5-6)) Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s S-u-p-p-o-r-t p-h-o-n-e N-u-m-b-e-r Q-u-i-c-k-B-o-o-k-s p-r-o S-u-p-p-o-r-t N-u-m-b-e-r]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48883&oldid=48880 * Mhussey362 * (+10865)
22:27:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Helpline+++»--QB-=1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Support Phone Number,Quickbooks Help desk phone number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48884&oldid=48846 * Smith123 * (-4351)
22:27:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks Support phone Number QuickBooks payroll Support phone Number QuickBooks pro Support phone Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48885&oldid=48707 * Pokoman * (+4463)
22:27:52 <fizzie> Turned it read-only.
22:29:23 <shachaf> @tell oerjan never mind tdh
22:29:23 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:30:57 <fizzie> I will try to teach myself some cleanup tricks.
22:32:01 <shachaf> wiki reliability engineer
22:33:17 <fizzie> I would like to have esolangs supported by a SRE team.
22:33:26 <fizzie> They can have the pager.
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22:36:38 <fizzie> Since $wgReadOnly also disallows the clean-up things, seems that I'll need to figure out some other way to temporarily block spamming.
22:37:02 <fizzie> I've used an "impossible" CAPTCHA question before, but now they have a bunch of registered users already.
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22:37:59 <shachaf> Are they coming from a bunch of different IPs?
22:38:19 <fizzie> Last time they were.
22:45:07 <fizzie> Mostly from a dozen or so, but there's a long tail that's likely spam up to a point.
22:45:28 <shachaf> the long tail of the snow leopard
22:45:48 <fizzie> All seem to be in India.
22:45:51 <shachaf> http://homph.snowme.ws:3/
22:45:57 <shachaf> port 3 makes it esoteric, right?
22:46:46 <fizzie> 3 is pretty esoteric.
22:47:34 <shachaf> Did you see all those snow leopards holding their own tails in their mouths?
22:47:38 <shachaf> pretty good
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22:52:19 <int-e> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers ... hmm, quite a listy
22:52:22 <int-e> -y
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22:53:52 <fizzie> Well, it's not *that* long.
22:54:02 <fizzie> 60 or so, eyeballing.
22:54:36 <fizzie> I will attempt to switch from $wgReadOnly = true to a thing where I've just (temporarily) disabled new account creation + edits from non-sysops, so that I could get to cleaning up.
22:57:42 <fizzie> Seems to work. I'll try to Special:Nuke all the spam next -- seems to be just a bit under 300 of most recently added pages.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Help@@@$Call 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0 quickbooks support phone number,quickbooks Pro support phone number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <int-e> 44 users, 519 edits, didn't count unique pages (but I see that some have been hit several times)
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[@bhotni ke@1.8.8.8. .5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8.. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.ks. .T.e.ch. .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .N.u.m.b.e.r]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Talk:Quickbooks ~~!!1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6!!~~ Quickbooks customer service phone number Quickbooks pro tech support phone number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Talk:Quickbooks ((1.8.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6)) Quickbooks helpline phone number Quickbooks help desk phone number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[ICLOUD Phone Number 1 8.0.0 2.1.3 2.1.7.1 USA CANADA, ICLOUD 360 Support Phone Number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[@~Help Desk Support For Quickbooks (((1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0)))!!!Quickbooks support Phone Number,Quickbooks Support phone Number,Quickbooks Pro Support Number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Talk:VIDEO+SONGS)) 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QUICKBOOKS TECH SUPPORT PHONE NUMBER QUICKBOOKS CUSTOMER CARE PHONE NUMBER]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[M*o*r*n*i*n**g d*e*t*a ( Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s @ c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e@ ph.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r,]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[@@@++****Quickbooks Help@Call 1-8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 Quickbooks 24/7 pAYROLL support pone number,@@@Quickbooks telephone number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Help@C@ll @@1.8.0.0.9.1.9.0.9.9.2.@@))Quickbooks 24/7 PAYROLL SUPPORT phone number,Quickbooks PAYROLL telephone number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
22:58:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Talk:QuickBooks 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro Support phone Number 1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6 QuickBooks pro tech Support phone Number QuickBooks pro phone Number]]": Clean up a recent spam attack.
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22:59:12 <int-e> `welcome HackEgo
22:59:15 <fizzie> Heh.
22:59:32 <fizzie> I didn't think it would print each one individually.
22:59:44 <HackEgo> HackEgo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
22:59:53 <fizzie> "504 Gateway Time-out"
23:00:25 <fizzie> Seems that it did the trick, anyway.
23:00:32 <fizzie> Left one page.
23:00:42 <fizzie> ("File:LQBVE..❶❽❻❻❸❽❽❸❺0❶...quickbooks support phone number quickbooks support telephone number.png")
23:01:00 <int-e> so how does one hide this from the Recent Changes list
23:01:12 * int-e knows almost nothing about mediawiki
23:01:25 <fizzie> There's allegedly another thing for that. I'll have a look.
23:01:30 <zzo38> Why are they running a HTTP server on port 3 though?
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23:02:43 <fizzie> Oh -- it needs a separate "Recent Changes Cleanup" extension.
23:02:57 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu).
23:03:16 <fizzie> (It twiddles the 'bot' bit on, so it doesn't even completely remove them from RC, just from the normal view.)
23:03:18 <zzo38> The /etc/services file in my computer does not list port 3 to mean anything.
23:03:41 <shachaf> Maybe your /etc/services file is indated.
23:03:53 <fizzie> Wonder if that's worth it.
23:04:06 <fizzie> I will at least need to block the users first.
23:05:12 <int-e> fizzie: not sure if it's worth it and there probably is no hurry... google would be stupid to not know about the lack of information in such "recent changes" lists :P
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23:08:18 <fizzie> As far as I can tell, for blocking the users I also need to manually go from Special:Log/newusers -- there's a bunch of batch-user-removal things, but they all seem more or less kludgy.
23:09:24 <fizzie> Mostly people seem to use the user merge extension to merge everyone to a specifically created "spammer" user.
23:12:30 <int-e> sounds clumsy
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23:20:01 <fizzie> I think that's all the new users blocked. At least the count (44) in RC matches yours.
23:20:24 <fizzie> And why is it always Quickbooks support phone numbers, anyway.
23:21:44 <fizzie> I will try to re-enable editing to logged-in users, but keep account creation disabled for a while. Not sure what to do there -- clearly the random brainfuck CAPTCHA is (to quote Silver the Hedgehog) of no use.
23:25:12 <fizzie> "Fighting spam should not be too hard." Thanks, MediaWiki manual.
23:25:37 <fizzie> They suggest a server-level IP blocklist at http://www.stopforumspam.com/downloads/
23:25:58 <hppavilion[1]> Why isn't there a Unicode character for http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2005-10-28 !?
23:27:01 <int-e> hmm, I guess by making mediawiki available to all they've created a lot of targets that are softer than wikipedia itself...
23:27:23 <int-e> ...not sure how that observation makes me feel
23:28:45 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: ...good point
23:29:14 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Personally, I think we should counter it by attacking quintopia
23:29:18 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, Quickbooks
23:29:37 <hppavilion[1]> The best offense is a nuclear arsenal
23:30:14 <izabera> that escalated quickly
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23:31:13 <hppavilion[1]> http://www.baidu.com/s?ie=utf-8&f=8&rsv_bp=1&rsv_idx=1&tn=baidu&wd=Tiananmen%20square&oq=tiananmen%20square&rsv_pq=945ef22800088d1f&rsv_t=94a7Z3Kp44T17h%2BNV7qv1M%2FilHmXSDe3j8CRJm%2Bgv4Fqw8934d8OkkP0MWg&rqlang=cn&rsv_enter=1&inputT=2120&rsv_sug3=23&rsv_n=2&rsv_sug1=2&rsv_sug7=100&rsv_sug2=0&rsv_sug4=2147&rsv_sug=1 is fun, I guess
23:32:39 <izabera> why this
23:33:14 <izabera> you googled tiananmen square on the chinese google. what does this mean
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23:36:01 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: Baidu famously censors things at the behest of the Chinese government
23:36:19 <hppavilion[1]> So it's interesting to see them grasp at straws to put results there
23:36:44 <hppavilion[1]> And the only ones that mention it are trying to disprove it
23:37:48 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, a few results for "May the 35th" mention it
23:39:27 <shachaf> That was a good book by Erich Kästner.
23:39:38 <shachaf> Apparently published in 1931.
23:39:49 <shachaf> There was a futuristic society in it. I don't remember much about it.
23:40:05 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, saw that
23:40:13 <shachaf> People stood on moving walkways rather than walking.
23:40:23 <shachaf> And they had cell phones.
23:40:31 <hppavilion[1]> Sounds like the most realistic prediction of the future ever
23:40:44 <shachaf> The cell phones had speech recognition, so all they needed to do was speak a phone number into the cell phone to dial it.
23:40:48 <shachaf> I remember that.
23:41:49 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
23:41:51 <shachaf> Edith Nesbit
23:42:19 <shachaf> Remember the Psammead?
23:44:38 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: you... remember?
23:44:49 <shachaf> Remember what?
23:45:05 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: That would make you 81 years old
23:45:27 <shachaf> What would?
23:46:46 <hppavilion[1]> <shachaf> I remember that.
23:48:46 <shachaf> Yes, I remember what I said.
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23:57:52 <boily> @metar CYUL
23:57:53 <lambdabot> CYUL 132200Z 22014KT 15SM FEW045CB SCT140 BKN240 32/22 A2980 RMK CB2AC2CI3 SLP091 DENSITY ALT 2200FT
23:58:02 <boily> @metar WSSS
23:58:02 <lambdabot> WSSS 132230Z 31002KT 9999 FEW016 BKN160 27/25 Q1008 NOSIG
2016-07-14
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00:08:33 <boily> hppavilion[1]: hppavellon[1]. why the matinal BLASPHEMY?
00:08:47 <hppavilion[1]> boily: matinal?
00:08:57 <boily> eeeeh... morning-y?
00:09:05 <boily> you BLASPHEMYed me this morning.
00:09:44 <boily> (hmm... according to Google Translate, there's no adjectival form of "morning" in English. strange.)
00:12:37 <hppavilion[1]> I really want a custom-made car where all of the controls are in the back seat (and there is no front seat)
00:12:51 <hppavilion[1]> So people do a double take when they see me driving from the back of the car
00:13:00 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, I probably couldn't legally drive it (it'd be hard to see anything)
00:13:02 <zzo38> Then what are you going to store in the front? The engine? A TV set?
00:13:10 <hppavilion[1]> And it'd be too expensive to be practical
00:13:11 <hppavilion[1]> But still
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00:17:32 <hppavilion[1]> On a more realistic note, I want any car I have to have a display mounted on the rear window that allows me to send messages to drivers behind me
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00:20:57 <Cale> boily: The adjective form of morning is just "morning"
00:21:11 <quintopia> helloily
00:21:15 <boily> Callo. beuh :/
00:21:20 <boily> quinthellopia!
00:21:31 <quintopia> what's the third coolest city in the U.S.
00:21:36 <quintopia> ?
00:21:39 <Cale> OED doesn't list it as such somehow, instead preferring to list a bunch of specific compounds of morning together with another noun, which seems odd.
00:22:16 <quintopia> well
00:22:19 <boily> third?
00:22:31 <quintopia> there certainly are only a handful of situations in which morning is adjectived
00:22:46 <quintopia> morning meeting, morning coffee, morning constitutional...
00:23:06 <quintopia> boily: on the assumption that NY and LA will be the first two
00:23:17 <Cale> Oh weird, in the 1989 version of OED, they had it clearly listed as an adjective as well.
00:23:25 <boily> meeting matinal, café matinal, eeeeh... constituosité matinale???
00:23:49 <boily> quintopia: oh, that kind of cool! I was stuck on weather cool.
00:25:48 <boily> I wouldn't know, really... I only remember Boston, New York and Washington DC. My family and I went to LA too, but it was a long long time ago.
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00:26:46 <boily> Perhaps Austin?
00:27:06 <boily> quintopia: can you vouch for Atlanta being the Third Coolest?
00:27:30 <pikhq> Weird, at least as a US English speaker "morning" in those phrases parses as an adjective, not as a compound noun.
00:27:31 <quintopia> atlanta is just a city
00:27:39 <quintopia> it does have me, so that's pretty cool.
00:27:47 <quintopia> austin is probably cooler
00:27:47 <fizzie> I think I'll switch from "account creation and anonymous editing disabled" to "ask an 'impossible' CAPTCHA question", to see if the spammers are actually passing it or just bypassing it, and also to provide an explanation.
00:28:49 <quintopia> account creation disabled?
00:29:26 <boily> but but... what if someone had a stroke of inspiration and wanted to expand the Glorious Purple Family?
00:29:27 <fizzie> Well, I had to do *something*.
00:29:50 <quintopia> what was happening?
00:29:55 <fizzie> Spam.
00:30:13 <fizzie> At a rate of about 44 new accounts and ~500 spam edits in the 15 or so minutes.
00:30:19 <quintopia> i thought spam happened constantly?
00:30:23 <quintopia> oh
00:30:26 <quintopia> yeah that's high
00:30:51 <quintopia> boily: Glorious People's Republic of Purple
00:31:22 <hppavilion[1]> Corporation's Republic of Capitalia
00:31:29 <\oren\> three strange notes have been left in our mail slot
00:31:50 <hppavilion[1]> If corporations are people too, they should get their lifespan limited to ~78 years
00:32:08 <quintopia> true
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00:32:29 <\oren\> "I love you" "You are special" and "Yor are beatiful" (sic). What are the note-leaver's intentions?
00:32:37 <quintopia> or else people should have their lifespans indefinitely expanded
00:33:10 <quintopia> \oren\: market research for future valentine's cards
00:34:07 <\oren\> these are physical, handwritten notes
00:34:33 <boily> he\\oren\. do yor feel beatiful?
00:34:35 <quintopia> boily: what is left to be done with the aubergines? any more than ubergenes would be too much and any less than purple would be too little.
00:34:54 <boily> if you can't go up nor down, go sideways?
00:35:08 <\oren\> more beautiful than beatific at any rate
00:35:09 <quintopia> hmmmmmm
00:35:25 <boily> we have ubergenes that adds to the concept. chop off what is in aubergine. what are you left with?
00:35:44 <quintopia> Écraser?
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00:37:13 <quintopia> if you chop off what is in aubergine you get uh....only negatively addressed memory locations, any variable names that aren't a and b--unless we chop out the idea of a memory array entirely?
00:37:25 <boily> hmmm....
00:37:45 <boily> what are there besides linear arrays?
00:38:05 <boily> graphs? topologies? weird mathematical stuff? Taneb?
00:38:08 <quintopia> you also lose the ability to read or change the instruction pointer, and the ability to do I/O
00:38:31 <boily> I have a sentimental attachment to IO.
00:38:45 <quintopia> perhaps it can be done differently
00:39:03 <quintopia> Courge!
00:39:11 <hppavilion[1]> Clearly, \oren\ has a confidential admirer that only the top world leaders can be informed of
00:39:21 <hppavilion[1]> (That didn't work very well)
00:39:47 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: \oren\ and everyone else at that address
00:39:57 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Oh?
00:40:05 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: I don't know where \oren\ lives
00:40:08 <hppavilion[1]> (Unfortunately)
00:40:17 <hppavilion[1]> boily: Do you have \oren\'s GPS coordinates on file?
00:40:22 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: "our mail slot" implies multiple recipients
00:40:28 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
00:40:38 <boily> hppavilion[1]: there you go: 43.6559769, -79.4141707
00:40:53 <hppavilion[1]> I'm a bit scared it's a joke, but checking anyway
00:40:58 <boily> maybe there are multiple \orens\?
00:41:21 <quintopia> boily: oren and \\oren\\ and /oren/ and //oren//
00:41:44 <\oren\> it isn't a joke, and I'm the only one currently living here
00:42:01 <hppavilion[1]> One side of the street has...
00:42:05 <hppavilion[1]> What, a duplex?
00:42:10 <hppavilion[1]> Looks too big to be a duples
00:42:12 <hppavilion[1]> *duplex
00:42:18 <quintopia> \oren\: oh, then secret admirer seems likely!
00:42:19 <hppavilion[1]> (like, the individual sides)
00:42:26 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
00:42:27 <quintopia> \oren\: or someone who wants you to think that
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00:42:35 <hppavilion[1]> duhn... duhn... DUHN
00:42:43 <\oren\> I'm in a two story house with a pine tree in the front
00:42:58 <\oren\> it is attached to the house on both sides of it
00:43:32 <hppavilion[1]> The other side of the street has condos or apartments or something...
00:44:50 <\oren\> that's the old folks home that has a fire every few days
00:44:58 <hppavilion[1]> Target acquired
00:45:02 <hppavilion[1]> Launching
00:45:45 <boily> hppavilion[1]: hey, careful with that ICBM. a little bit off and it'd hit one of our Magnificent Crumbling Buildings.
00:46:16 <hppavilion[1]> Detonation confirmed
00:46:20 <hppavilion[1]> Summary: http://bit.ly/29Phz2C
00:46:43 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: The first time I read that I thought it was "a few days ago"
00:46:48 <hppavilion[1]> But, every few days, really?
00:47:31 <\oren\> yeah because they won't stop smoking
00:48:07 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
00:48:21 <hppavilion[1]> (For clarity, in this scenario North Korea /really/ doesn't like \oren\ in particular)
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01:28:51 <tswett> Intercontinental Crumbling Building Missile.
01:29:31 <quintopia> i had assumed that was the joke yes
01:30:13 <tswett> I had assumed that that was a coincidence that nobody else had yet noticed.
01:30:41 <tswett> So I'm pretty sure that in my silly little ordinal notation, {{{{}:{}}:{}}:{}} is an extremely large ordinal.
01:30:57 <shachaf> Is that surreal numbers?
01:31:03 <tswett> No, that's ordinal numbers.
01:31:28 <tswett> Each notation is a dictionary with finitely many key-value pairs, where each key and each value is a notation.
01:31:42 <boily> `learn ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently unknown.
01:31:57 <HackEgo> Learned 'icbm/icbm': ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently unknown.
01:32:10 <shachaf> Doesn't the I stand for Intercontinentalballisticmissile?
01:32:18 <tswett> {} is 0. {0:0} is 1.
01:32:20 <shachaf> `sedlast s/unknown/classified/
01:32:27 <HackEgo> wisdom/icbm/icbm//ICBM/ICBMs are Crumbling Building Missiles. The I is currently classified.
01:32:34 <tswett> So the concise way of writing that notation above is {{1:0}:0}.
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01:34:58 <izabera> can we talk about how well designed is argument parsing in sh?
01:35:39 <tswett> Yes, but not in Sanskrit.
01:35:45 <tswett> We can talk about that in any other language.
01:35:45 <izabera> ok
01:35:51 <izabera> let's go with english
01:36:00 <quintopia> engli sh?
01:36:03 <boily> tswellott. bad sanskrit past experiences?
01:36:20 <izabera> -o and -c take a parameter, but they take the first "free" argument as their parameter
01:36:35 <izabera> like this sh -of vi is the same as sh -f -o vi
01:37:19 <izabera> sh -oovi vi vi is the same as sh -v -i -o vi -o vi
01:38:08 <izabera> also most sh options can be enabled with + instead of - , like this sh +o vi
01:38:29 <izabera> but -c isn't one of those options, so this should be invalid sh +oc vi :
01:38:49 <izabera> yet it's valid in several shells because this shit is fucked up
01:40:13 <izabera> and you can't have sh -co : vi because for some reason this must consider : as the option name and vi as the command
01:41:05 <izabera> so in that case you need sh -co vi :
01:41:14 <izabera> even if -c comes first
01:42:08 <izabera> and bash adds an additional set of options that are enabled with -O with the same semantics as -o because it worked so well
01:42:21 <izabera> who thinks this is shit?
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01:44:08 <boily> izbellora. it is quaint and pittoresque. looks good from afar :D
01:44:21 <izabera> hoily
01:46:07 <tswett> This is the way it should work:
01:46:31 <boily> damn. once again I typoed the izaberaporthello...
01:46:54 <tswett> {command: sh, arguments: {f: nil, o: vi}}
01:48:08 <izabera> i'm not saying you should use json to start a shell..
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01:49:19 <izabera> it should just parse arguments and options like every other utility -_-
01:49:41 <izabera> sh -fovi == sh -f -o vi
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01:50:19 <shachaf> @tell pikhq The HackEgo thing is fixed. You can @tell oerjan that you don't need to be told to unignore it.
01:50:19 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:50:37 <tswett> I'm one of those extremists who believes that commands shouldn't parse their own arguments.
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01:51:26 <shachaf> Parsing is scow.
01:51:49 <izabera> parsing is necessary
01:52:06 <shachaf> Sort of.
01:52:35 <izabera> if they don't parse their command line arguments, you can't have a unified interface to call them
01:52:49 <shachaf> Just the opposite.
01:53:02 <izabera> what do you mean?
01:53:28 <shachaf> I assume tswett means that the shell or something will have one parser for all commands.
01:53:40 <shachaf> And the commands get their arguments in structured form rather than a bunch of bytes.
01:54:00 <tswett> Yeah, that.
01:54:55 <izabera> so your idea is to put in the shell a super complex parser that handles every possible way to call any program
01:55:01 <shachaf> Yes.
01:55:18 <shachaf> Parsers are hard and error-prone, so you might as well handle parsing well in one place.
01:55:43 <shachaf> The problem with UNIX command line programs is that they serve two functions: User interface and API.
01:56:12 <shachaf> Just about anything that tries to be both UI and API is doomed to be terrible at at least one.
01:56:47 <izabera> but that's why stuff like getopt() exist
01:56:54 <izabera> so they don't have to write their own parsers
01:57:05 <shachaf> But it's such a mess.
01:57:24 <shachaf> You have things like rm $file, where $file happens to start with a -.
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01:58:38 <tswett> Look, a quit message of boily's that's something that makes sense as a quit message.
02:00:10 <zzo38> You should then use the -- if a filename with - at first but it would have been better if the filename does not start with - anyways. I use shell script with #!/bin/bash -- for this reason.
02:01:21 <tswett> People don't consistently put in -- when they're deleting a file with an unknown name.
02:01:22 <shachaf> Yes, of course you can work around it.
02:01:34 <shachaf> But if it was structured, you wouldn't need to work around it.
02:01:39 <tswett> It's easy to accidentally get it wrong.
02:02:00 <izabera> it's easy because you're not in #bash
02:02:01 <tswett> Generally, I don't like it when a computer system makes it easy to accidentally get it wrong.
02:02:04 <shachaf> If unlink() had a different behavior when a file name started with '-', people would be mad.
02:02:32 <shachaf> izabera: Obviously it's possible to train yourself to do it.
02:02:47 <shachaf> It's not literally impossible to write correct code using UNIX utilities.
02:02:51 <shachaf> But it's not a good API for programming
02:03:04 <izabera> it's fine
02:03:36 <tswett> I also don't like it when a computer system is "fine".
02:04:00 <shachaf> spot of the stockholm syndrome, governor?
02:04:07 <tswett> If something can reasonably be improved, it should be.
02:04:08 <zzo38> I think it is working OK, although the filename ought to don't start with a minus sign anyways.
02:04:29 <shachaf> If by "it's fine" you mean that it's not worth the effort to change, I agree.
02:04:40 <shachaf> It would be a big project.
02:04:47 <pikhq> shachaf: IMO the worst part is that things fail to implement Unix utilities to match the spec, which means that writing correct code with it is even *harder* than it ought to be.
02:05:08 <shachaf> pikhq: Well, it's not as if a utilty author's life is easy.
02:05:20 <shachaf> A structured API would make life easy for both parties.
02:05:21 <izabera> except when the spec is idiotic, e.g. how sh parses options ^
02:05:38 <shachaf> utility
02:05:57 <shachaf> Anyway, I'll just say that izabera doesn't like change.
02:06:05 <izabera> no that's not true
02:06:06 <zzo38> An alternative would be for the shell to parse the switches and pass as arguments to the program so that it will not cause a problem based on what the filename is.
02:06:08 <shachaf> That's a pretty rude thing to say, actually.
02:06:09 <pikhq> For instance, POSIX argument parsing is a little less fragile than GNU argument parsing...
02:06:10 <shachaf> I'll retract it.
02:06:30 <pikhq> In POSIX, you stop parsing flags on the first string that doesn't start with -, or after "--".
02:06:40 <pikhq> In GNU, you stop parsing flags after "--".
02:06:41 <shachaf> Can you believe that the Windows shell doesn't expand *? It's the program's responsibility to do it.
02:06:42 <zzo38> I do think the POSIX argument parsing is better than the GNU argument parsing, at least.
02:07:00 <pikhq> ... Which means rm * is even *more* likely to do weird shit.
02:07:05 <shachaf> pikhq: Personally I like being able to ls / -l
02:07:22 <shachaf> I'm a gnu / agnother gnu
02:07:33 <izabera> agnother lol
02:07:44 <pikhq> IMO the worst part, again, is this is a deviation from spec and from common behavior that you basically just have to know.
02:08:18 <pikhq> Unix is bad enough without things make nominally correct code break because you extend the semantics.
02:08:56 <zzo38> Making the shell to be error message if a filename has - at first might be one option that you might want to add too
02:09:47 <pikhq> ... Also weird is the weird insistence that the interactive and scripting shells be the same, or that the interactive shell should be usable for scripting...
02:10:11 <izabera> why is that bad?
02:10:26 <zzo38> But making it different would require to program the difference and cause problem when the program is not written in this way.
02:10:38 <pikhq> I mean granted, you don't want a lot of pointless differences. But a lot of the things that an interactive shell could do to make the UI less bad would break non-interactive use.
02:10:39 <zzo38> Making it same way would be simpler I think, so therefore it is better.
02:10:40 <\oren\> pikhq: I use different shell for interaction and scripting
02:10:51 <shachaf> pikhq: That's what I was saying about UIs and APIs above.
02:11:21 <\oren\> Spefically, I use bash for scripting and midnight commander for interatiocn
02:11:34 <izabera> mc counts as a shell?
02:11:39 <pikhq> e.g. an interactive shell could see you write "rm *" and execute "rm -- *".
02:11:53 <\oren\> of course it counts
02:12:01 <izabera> cough cough rm () { command rm -- "$@"; }
02:12:47 <shachaf> But that rm doesn't support flags.
02:13:10 <zzo38> The alternative I mentioned would be that the interactive shell will display an error message if a wildcard expands to a filename that begins with a minus sign by default.
02:13:16 <tswett> rm: cannot remove ‘-rf’: No such file or directory
02:13:17 <izabera> ok i'm not writing the one that expands the glob correctly *and* supports options, in one line on irc
02:13:39 <deltab> or glob could prefix with ./
02:13:42 <pikhq> There's also no particular reason that an interactive shell has to work like the traditional Unix shell in most any way...
02:13:44 <shachaf> This is the sort of mindset that says that the way to solve SQL injection is to be extra careful.
02:13:57 <deltab> as suggested in http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html#dashes
02:14:06 <shachaf> Just gotta mysql_real_escape_string everything.
02:14:09 <pikhq> Literally the only reason behind keeping the traditional Unix shell the way it is, is that you break shell scripts if you change it.
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02:14:17 <izabera> shachaf: what mindset?
02:14:31 <pikhq> But holy *shit* is it a rough UI experience.
02:14:42 <tswett> Now I'm trying to think why it is that PowerShell is both an interactive shell and a scripting shell.
02:15:13 <tswett> Well... I definitely want a PowerShell interactive shell, and I definitely want a PowerShell scripting shell.
02:15:23 <deltab> izabera: if you changed it so that it allowed options, it would allow *unintended* options, and you'd have the original problem again
02:15:29 <tswett> And it's easier for Microsoft to make just one thing than two.
02:15:39 <pikhq> PowerShell has the slight advantage of the preexisting scripting environment on Windows being complete shit.
02:16:15 <pikhq> ... And the larger advantage of being able to ship the brand new thing and get fairly wide adoption.
02:16:31 <zzo38> SQL has host parameters if you need to call SQL codes from another programming language and include the string data from the host.
02:16:51 <pikhq> Unix shell scripting, uh, there's several different OSes which use it.
02:16:52 <zzo38> If you are programming directly in SQL then you don't have problems with injection.
02:17:17 <pikhq> And using it fairly heavily for scripting.
02:17:54 <zzo38> String escaping in SQL is supposed to be by doubling each apostrophe that appears (I think it is the same as Pascal), and this is what SQLite implements, but other systems do escaping differently and don't work so well.
02:18:11 <izabera> btw most of what all of you are saying reads as "i want to stay ignorant of how shells work and just paste in awful code snippets i found on the internet" like all the code in http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html#dashes
02:19:45 <tswett> I want tools whose behavior is simple so that I don't have to learn a lot in order to be able to use them well.
02:20:17 <izabera> it's code
02:20:25 <izabera> you want to learn how to write python before writing python
02:20:40 <pikhq> izabera: I am not saying that, I'm just saying the UI is terrible and it should not require mastery of it to avoid shooting your foot.
02:21:08 <shachaf> izabera: I know how to write correct code in bash.
02:21:23 <shachaf> I'm complaining *because* I know how.
02:21:27 <pikhq> ^
02:21:39 <izabera> `` touch ./-rf; GLOBIGNORE=-*; echo rm *
02:21:48 <HackEgo> rm !\.´ advice bin canary candide cdescs emoticons esobible etc evil factor good .hg .hg_archival.txt .hgignore hw ibin interps karma le lib ls misle out paste ply-3.8 ps quines quotes share src theorems tmflry tmp wisdom wisdom.pdf
02:22:00 <izabera> ^ see? it didn't expand to -rf
02:22:10 <shachaf> But it's not deleting the file -rf either.
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02:23:00 <izabera> `rm ./-rf
02:23:05 <HackEgo> No output.
02:23:19 <tswett> Fwiw, in PowerShell, if you want to delete all files in the current directory, that's...
02:23:21 <tswett> ls | rm
02:23:23 <tswett> Or, for long:
02:23:28 <tswett> Get-ChildItem | Remove-Item
02:23:41 <shachaf> What if I want to create all the files that don't exist?
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02:23:51 <izabera> whawt
02:23:57 <izabera> s/w//2
02:24:33 <tswett> Actually, I'm pretty sure you can just do:
02:24:33 <tswett> *
02:24:36 <tswett> Er.
02:24:38 <tswett> rm *
02:24:56 <tswett> And that will be interpreted as "remove all items which match the wildcard string '*'".
02:25:24 <tswett> PowerShell doesn't expand globs... ever, I think.
02:25:41 <izabera> so that leaves the burden on each program
02:26:06 <shachaf> I don't mind the shell expanding globs.
02:26:12 <shachaf> But it ought to be done the right way.
02:26:52 <izabera> you should just start to use something like -- whenever you expand a glob
02:26:53 <tswett> izabera: yeah, I suppose it does.
02:27:11 <tswett> I think PowerShell would also let you do this:
02:27:12 <tswett> rm (ls)
02:27:30 <tswett> List the contents of the current directory and delete that.
02:27:35 <pikhq> shachaf: Something where it understands you writing the string "rm * -rf" and executes {"rm", "-rf", "--", results of glob here, 0}?
02:28:09 <shachaf> Something where you pass more structured data between the shell and rm.
02:28:21 <shachaf> I don't know what the details should be like.
02:28:31 <pikhq> Mmkay, that's a little tricky without changing some huge details of Unix.
02:28:40 <shachaf> Yes, of course I'm talking about changing everything.
02:28:45 <pikhq> My interpretation is the closest you can do while only changing the shell.
02:28:48 <pikhq> Right.
02:28:49 <izabera> that becomes overly verbose for interactive use
02:28:50 <tswett> Remove-Item (Get-ChildItem) -Recurse -Force
02:29:03 <shachaf> Yes, it's a tricky UI/language design problem.
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02:29:42 <shachaf> The UNIX approach is at one point in a big space of potential solutions.
02:30:12 <shachaf> I don't think it's a particularly good point, though it has some important advantages that other solutions should strive for.
02:30:14 <pikhq> With the major advantage of it (which is big, mind you) is that it already is implemented and popular.
02:30:23 <zzo38> What I intend to do for my new kind of computer design is the main command line interface is just Forth.
02:30:40 <izabera> so user friendly
02:30:44 <tswett> Personally, I prefer PowerShell over Forth.
02:32:19 <shachaf> I think this whole discussion is an example of Alan Kay's answer in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11940276
02:32:35 <zzo38> Normally you would not need this interface though since you can just insert the CD/DVD and then push START and it will start.
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02:37:59 <lambda-11235> Yeah, I wrote an LC compiler where parenthesis are only allowed with and required for application.
02:38:40 <lambda-11235> So (\x. x x) (\x. x x) is illegal syntax, but (\x. (x x) \x. (x x)) is legal.
02:38:51 <tswett> Hey there.
02:38:59 <tswett> I think I like it.
02:40:21 <lambda-11235> tswett: The nice thing is that using that rule precedence doesn't matter.
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03:01:14 <izabera> hercules has cut over 200k heads and hydra is still going strong
03:06:19 <tswett> But you cannot lose!
03:06:36 <izabera> actually i can, my lifetime is limited
03:10:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[WhoScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48886&oldid=46034 * MCS-Kaijin * (+57)
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04:32:11 <myname> i am disappointed by the "dr who theme" of whoscript
04:32:48 <myname> it's basically renaming stdin/stdout and giving jumps and if another name
04:33:14 <myname> it doesn't even feature rebirth
04:34:15 <alercah> it should make every jump go to a random instruction near to, but never exactly on, the targeted instruction
04:34:53 <myname> that would just result in nopslides everywhere
04:35:48 <myname> you may have to trick a little if all nops you can do are actually composed commands, but it's still possible
04:36:37 <alercah> nops are forbidden
04:36:53 <myname> you cannot do,that, i th7nk
04:37:35 <myname> i am not sure if a langiage without the possibility to produce nops is turing complete
04:37:49 <alercah> you might be able to produce compound nops
04:37:56 <alercah> but then starting in the middle of one won't necessarily be a nop
04:38:11 <myname> well, yeah, but you might solve that
04:38:30 <alercah> also the degree to which you are off should clearly be unlimited
04:38:44 <myname> like, having a nop composed of increments and decrements of a var, compare with another at the end of the slide, fix accordingly
04:38:46 <alercah> so that no amount of nop sliding is big enough to guarantee you don't end up stuck in an asteroid
04:39:03 <myname> or just use a var that is of no use whatsoever and just increase it
04:39:47 <Hoolootwo> yeah, there would be lots of ways to do pseudo-nops
04:40:36 <myname> i would make a language that _needs_ rebirths, but every time it does so, it is a bit unclear about its state
04:41:16 <myname> also, there always need to be a companion thread
04:42:22 <myname> dr who does remind me a bit of interactive proofs
04:48:37 <lambda-11235> What about a language that could reset its state to an earlier point in time?
04:49:34 <izabera> that's what lisp does
04:51:03 <myname> call/cc everywhere?
04:52:40 <Hoolootwo> you can also do that in C-INTERCAL with backtracking
04:53:06 <Hoolootwo> http://catb.org/esr/intercal/ick.htm#Backtracking
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06:42:22 <oerjan> @messages-foul
06:42:22 <lambdabot> shachaf asked 9h 40m 7s ago: to remind me to /unignore HackEgo when the spam issue is fixed twh
06:42:22 <lambdabot> pikhq asked 9h 34m 27s ago: me too
06:42:22 <lambdabot> izabera asked 9h 34m 3s ago: me three
06:42:22 <lambdabot> izabera asked 9h 16m 51s ago: no need to remind me anything
06:42:22 <lambdabot> shachaf said 8h 12m 58s ago: never mind tdh
06:42:51 <oerjan> pikhq: please unignore HackEgo
06:42:54 <oerjan> (sheesh)
06:42:58 <pikhq> It is done.
06:44:02 <shachaf> oerjan: as if you don't like getting messages
06:44:15 <shachaf> if you didn't want foul ones you should've just used another command
06:45:25 <oerjan> i already knew they were foul, that's why i used it hth
06:45:43 <shachaf> self-foulfilling prophecy
06:47:23 <oerjan> sounds like it was a good time to be away, anyway.
06:47:39 <shachaf> what, you're not logreading?
06:48:04 <oerjan> yes i am. it was very good for me to be away from such a mess.
06:48:32 <shachaf> You gotta read between the lines.
06:48:50 <shachaf> Maybe download the logs and filter out the HackEgo lines.
06:48:58 <oerjan> i haven't got much beyond searching for my own nick yet.
06:49:09 <oerjan> also, i seem to have email too.
06:49:18 <oerjan> (agora has reawakened)
07:15:07 <Sgeo> oerjan, ooh?
07:17:08 <shachaf> hm
07:17:18 <shachaf> i had a good pun with the word "swat" but i've forgotten it
07:17:19 <shachaf> it's a shame
07:17:26 <shachaf> it would have earned me a proper swatting
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07:49:00 <oerjan> Sgeo: there is activity on the mailing lists, and several people have reregistered.
07:49:12 <Sgeo> I should take a look tomorrow
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08:35:16 <int-e> oerjan: Sounds like an NP problem (namely: guess the right phrase)... you should use a SWAT solver.
08:39:42 <oerjan> int-e: did you mean to ping shachaf
08:40:13 * shachaf swats int-e -#
08:49:38 <int-e> oerjan: MAYBE!
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09:07:06 <hppavilion[1]> I detect NP problems
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09:15:27 <shachaf> I detect solutions to NP problems.
09:17:31 <int-e> oerjan: somehow, to my mind, you emit a stronger "pun" signal than shachaf does.
09:17:55 <shachaf> oerjan has been punning since before I was born.
09:18:00 <shachaf> He even puns unintentionally.
09:18:22 <hppavilion[1]> And that's saying something; shachaf is at LEAST 81 years old
09:18:36 <shachaf> `? oerjan
09:18:49 <HackEgo> Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
09:18:56 <shachaf> @wn precambrian
09:18:56 <hppavilion[1]> Say what you like about puns, but they can be a very rewording experience
09:18:57 <lambdabot> *** "precambrian" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
09:18:57 <lambdabot> Precambrian
09:18:57 <lambdabot> n 1: the eon following the Hadean time and preceding the
09:18:57 <lambdabot> Phanerozoic eon; from about 3,800 million years ago until
09:18:57 <lambdabot> 544 million years ago [syn: {Precambrian}, {Precambrian
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09:18:59 <lambdabot> eon}, {Precambrian aeon}, {Precambrian period}]
09:19:40 <shachaf> int-e: do you have any fancy things like goodstein's theorem for me
09:20:05 <int-e> shachaf: there was a hydra yesterday...
09:20:24 * int-e needs to catch a bus
09:21:10 <shachaf> well, that hydra was the same thing
09:21:10 * oerjan seems to have caught it http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
09:21:28 <shachaf> i just mean any fancy theorems or fast-growing functions or that sort of thing
09:23:57 <b_jonas> int-e: about the pentagon from yesterday, I said under 1e9 first four primitive steps, but that was stupid, there are much less because the compass collapses.
09:24:00 <b_jonas> I'll have to recompute it
09:24:28 <b_jonas> also, I think even with the flaw you pointed out, it might be possible to brute-force it, because I must still get _something_ useful after 4 steps
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09:55:14 <oerjan> <shachaf> A channel op could KickEgo <-- the set of active channel ops is alas ~= the set of active wiki admins.
09:55:34 <shachaf> oerjan: yes, i lamented that fact hth
09:56:47 <b_jonas> M:tG: wait, so in Eldritch Moon they print a creature whose name ends in " Standard Bearer". Guess what ability it has? No, not the "Standard Bearer" ability. The spellshaper ability. It's not even a spellshaper by type.
09:56:58 <oerjan> huh lament is still there.
09:57:26 <oerjan> shachaf: technically lament may have been on freenode. he's now, anyway.
09:57:44 <shachaf> oerjan: whoa whoa whoa
09:57:44 <oerjan> whether he would be helpful is a different matter.
09:57:57 <shachaf> you contracted the is which would have been emphasized
09:58:06 <shachaf> the "is"
09:58:09 <oerjan> wat?
09:58:28 <shachaf> "he's now"
09:58:46 <shachaf> but he isn't. maybe you meant "not now" or something
09:58:48 <oerjan> i emphasized the now.
09:58:59 <oerjan> oh he is. just under a slightly different nick.
09:59:08 <oerjan> same account though.
09:59:18 <shachaf> true, it's not emphasized
09:59:23 <shachaf> but that's pretty bizarre
09:59:42 <shachaf> there must be some grammar rule that forbids it
10:00:43 <oerjan> couldn't've been
10:04:26 <oerjan> also, ais523 is the admin that knows how to actually fight that kind of spam afaik.
10:05:56 <oerjan> it's good fizzie showed up. i suspect i wouldn't have had enough powers or knowledge to stop it.
10:10:01 <hppavilion[1]> I just saw a few seconds of a video in 4K
10:10:09 <hppavilion[1]> In other news, ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
10:15:10 <shachaf> We need to give fizzie a pager.
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10:17:59 <fizzie> shachaf: Will I get paid extra when I'm on-call?
10:18:17 <shachaf> fizzie: You'll get paid with extra vacation from #esoteric.
10:20:26 <fizzie> A spam alerting thing might make sense though -- was pure luck I happened to glance at the channel when I did. Wonder if there'd be a reasonable way to set one up.
10:24:17 <shachaf> Are you on an oncall rotation at work?
10:24:23 <shachaf> I've forgotten your username.
10:25:31 <fizzie> Not really. I mean, we use oncall for managing some triage-style rotations, but that's not the same thing.
10:26:05 <shachaf> I think you've said it before but maybe it was someone else.
10:27:11 <fizzie> There's been talking of having a more on-call oncall so that "our" SREs have someone to talk to if they get lonely (or have a problem, I guess).
10:27:17 <fizzie> It's just my last name.
10:28:05 <shachaf> Ah, too easy.
10:28:36 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa, fizziecoin
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10:29:06 <fizzie> Weren't you supposed to be an *ex*-Googler?
10:29:08 <shachaf> `? fizzie
10:29:15 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg
10:29:39 <izabera> i need to upgrade hercules
10:29:48 <izabera> how do i give him a machine gun or something?
10:29:58 <oerjan> fizzie: he's not supposed to a lambdabot admin either, but...
10:30:01 <oerjan> *to be
10:30:02 <izabera> 600k heads so far
10:30:25 <shachaf> fizzie is the sneaky one, according to HackEgo.
10:30:30 <oerjan> izabera: maybe not use the auto?
10:30:37 <izabera> BUT NOW I HAVE TO
10:30:52 <oerjan> shachaf: you're just so sneaky you've removed the evidence hth
10:31:27 <shachaf> Anyway this information is public.
10:31:36 <fizzie> Oh, right.
10:32:47 <fizzie> There's a Redis Pub/Sub variant of the update feed we're piping to HackEgo, maybe there'd be some low-effort way of getting that through GCM into notifications on my phone.
10:33:08 <fizzie> It's not like it's (usually) that active.
10:33:48 <fizzie> Also I could then publish whatever I use in the Play Store, and anyone could get esolangs updates into their phone.
10:34:23 <shachaf> Anyone with an Android phone.
10:34:33 <shachaf> Which is anyone who counts, I suppose.
10:34:38 <fizzie> Close enough.
10:34:41 <fizzie> I'm sure that sort of app would have an audience in the ones.
10:35:00 <shachaf> Can't you just use an RSS feed or something?
10:35:15 <fizzie> That'd be laggy.
10:35:17 <shachaf> I don't think your SLA has to be that good.
10:36:23 <fizzie> The cleanup time is linear to the time they've spent spamming, unless I manage to install one of those dodgier spam-cleaning extensions or go through the trouble of getting some of the hacky batchy things working.
10:36:55 <b_jonas> `wisdom
10:36:58 <b_jonas> `wisdome
10:37:03 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdome: not found
10:37:05 <HackEgo> thwackamacallit//A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole.
10:37:22 <b_jonas> `wisdom
10:37:26 <HackEgo> ​#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts.
10:37:28 <b_jonas> `random-card
10:37:32 <HackEgo> Hedron Matrix \ 4 \ Artifact -- Equipment \ Equipped creature gets +X/+X, where X is its converted mana cost. \ Equip {4} \ ROE-R
10:38:41 <fizzie> Although I have a vague notion Chrome on Android does push notifications now.
10:38:55 <shachaf> `` F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n 1)"; sed 's#\. #\.#' "$F"
10:38:58 <HackEgo> flower.what IS a flower?
10:39:12 <shachaf> `? flower
10:39:14 <HackEgo> flower. what IS a flower?
10:40:32 <shachaf> `cwlprits flower
10:40:40 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia
10:40:59 <shachaf> `hoag wisdom/flower
10:41:03 <HackEgo> ​<int-e> revert accbc9c5c7ec \ <ais523> echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <oerjan> revert \ <FreeFull> run rm -rf wisdom \ <shachaf> revert 0 \ <shachaf> run rm -rf wisdom/* \ Initial import.
10:41:14 <shachaf> man
10:41:17 <shachaf> that's a lot of vandalism
10:42:15 <fizzie> I did find https://pushassist.com/push-notifications-mediawiki/ but that's so commercial.
10:42:23 <fizzie> "Increase engagement and drive more repeat traffic to your MediaWiki site with desktop & Android (Chrome & Firefox) push notifications."
10:42:55 <shachaf> Can't you just have it send you an email?
10:43:46 <shachaf> Or a page, if you're set up for that.
10:46:41 <fizzie> I know MediaWiki can send emails for changes to pages on a specific watch list. Not sure if I can convince it to send emails for everything.
10:47:17 <shachaf> How are changes being sent to HackEgo?
10:47:42 <shachaf> You can just write a bot that monitors HackEgo's messages in #esoteric
10:47:47 <fizzie> $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges
10:47:54 <fizzie> There's a flag for that, apparently.
10:48:09 <fizzie> "Array of usernames who will be sent a notification email for every change which occurs on a wiki. The user will not be sent an email for changes that they themselves make."
10:48:15 <fizzie> Well, I could just enable that, then.
10:49:37 <fizzie> For HackEgo, we use the $wgRCFeeds mechanism, which does Redis Pub/Sub pushes and raw UDP (one packet/edit). We use the latter, plus socat UDP-RECV:8147,bind=127.0.0.1 STDOUT | stdbuf -oL cut -c 1-400 | stdbuf -oL sed -e 's/^/PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] /' | socat STDIN UNIX-SENDTO:/tmp/multibot.HackEgo to smuggle them to IRC.
10:50:32 <shachaf> But then you won't get notified if you spam the wiki.
10:54:23 <b_jonas> shachaf: you do if you use two different users and add both to the list
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11:34:42 <boily> `wisdom
11:35:10 <HackEgo> soviet russia//¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia?
11:47:09 <b_jonas> `bardsworthlist 2016-07-14
11:47:17 <oerjan> hily
11:47:20 <HackEgo> bardsworthlist 2016-07-14: b_jonas
11:48:26 <b_jonas> `? sarlacc
11:48:35 <HackEgo> sarlacc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:48:45 <shachaf> `cat bin/listlist
11:48:49 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ set -e \ export LANG=C \ cd /hackenv/bin;exec ls -dF *[lL]ist*
11:48:53 <shachaf> hm
11:49:00 <shachaf> I want a notification list for when new lists are created.
11:49:11 <shachaf> `cat bin/mklist
11:49:13 <HackEgo> cat: bin/mklist: No such file or directory
11:49:23 <shachaf> `cat bin/makelist
11:49:24 <HackEgo> file="bin/$1"; shift; cp bin/emptylist "$file"; for n in "$@"; do echo "$n" >> "$file"; done
11:49:54 <shachaf> `makelist makelistlist
11:50:04 <HackEgo> No output.
11:50:09 <shachaf> `` echo shachaf >> bin/makelistlist
11:50:14 <HackEgo> No output.
11:51:03 <b_jonas> shachaf: then add yourself to listlist
11:51:13 <b_jonas> I'll try to remember that list next time I create a list
11:52:02 <oerjan> shachaf: hey, `makelist takes arguments now hth
11:52:12 <shachaf> oerjan: i remembered too late
11:52:18 <shachaf> didn't someone tell me about remembering too late the other day
11:52:54 <shachaf> `sled bin/makelist//s/.\{13\}/name="$1"; file="bin/$name"; makelistlist "$name"/
11:52:58 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 32: unknown option to `s'
11:53:08 <shachaf> `sled bin/makelist//s/.\{13\}/name="$1"; file="bin\/$name"; makelistlist "$name"/
11:53:12 <HackEgo> bin/makelist//name="$1"; file="bin/$name"; makelistlist "$name"; shift; cp bin/emptylist "$file"; for n in "$@"; do echo "$n" >> "$file"; done
11:53:20 <shachaf> `makelist makelistlist shachaf
11:53:25 <HackEgo> makelistlist makelistlist shachaf: shachaf
11:53:40 <shachaf> oops
11:54:00 <shachaf> Arguments don't work with the regular running syntax.
11:54:02 <shachaf> `revert
11:54:06 <shachaf> Then what's the point?
11:54:19 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
11:55:04 <b_jonas> `? subscribe
11:55:11 <HackEgo> subscribe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:55:25 <shachaf> The list infrastructure could use some overhauling.
11:55:36 <shachaf> It should stop using self-modifying executables, for one.
11:56:08 <b_jonas> shachaf: right, but then you should figure out some easy interface to subscribe and unsubscribe lists
11:56:27 <b_jonas> feel free to overhaul it
11:58:13 <boily> hellørjan!
11:58:27 <shachaf> THe only reason for me to overhaul it would be to avoid you overhauling it in Perl that I can't read or modify.
11:58:46 <shachaf> Anyway, I'm going to sleep.
11:59:52 <b_jonas> shachaf: nah, it's culprits and noping that I want to overhaul in perl, not lists
12:00:32 <b_jonas> (well except maybe `list itself, to make myself immune to it but in a sneaky viral way that you can't easily fix because culprits re-infects it)
12:00:55 <b_jonas> (maybe I should just make `list use the overhauled culprits)
12:02:26 <int-e> b_jonas: "something useful" is not nearly specific enough, but the way I interpret it, the construction I saw has nothing very useful after 4 steps.
12:02:58 <b_jonas> int-e: I can make it more specific:
12:03:06 <int-e> (to be precise, none of the missing four vertices of the pentagon are there)
12:04:05 <int-e> (hoping that's not spoiling too much)
12:05:51 <izabera> http://duktape.org/
12:06:15 <b_jonas> after 4 steps, I want either (a) two points, each on a line of one of the five sides of the pentagon or the big circle that contains the outer intersection points of the sides; or (b) one or two circles or lines whose union contains two outer intersection points of the sides
12:06:44 <b_jonas> (and that's not always enough)
12:07:34 <b_jonas> int-e: basically, after 4 moves I can restrict the branching of the search so much that the 5th move must be one of some very specific moves, and usually completely impossible
12:08:20 <b_jonas> it's still a lot of search, but with primitives only, I think it's possible
12:08:24 <b_jonas> I'm not completely sure
12:10:50 <b_jonas> but I also have the feeling that it's probably easier to find a non-primitive 10 step solution than to do the brute force for a primitive one,
12:10:59 <b_jonas> because there's still some of the geometry I don't understand here
12:12:16 <b_jonas> hmm wait, I have an idea
12:12:42 <b_jonas> let me try some things
12:20:02 <b_jonas> ok, I got a horrible 15 move non-primitive solution, but at least it doesn't look like just an obvious pessimization of the 11 move one I've got
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12:28:54 <b_jonas> nice, I've got a 12 move solution
12:39:08 <b_jonas> I've got a very ugly 13 move solution
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12:41:01 <b_jonas> ok wait, I still don't understand how this geometry stuff works
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14:19:32 <prooftechnique> g
14:20:01 <prooftechnique> Sorry, ERC bugged out and wouldn't let me delete that :(
14:20:20 <b_jonas> `randomquote
14:20:28 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: randomquote: not found
14:20:31 <b_jonas> fungot, are you here?
14:20:31 <fungot> b_jonas: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it?
14:20:40 <int-e> . o O ( what is the European Research Council doing with prooftechnique? )
14:20:41 <b_jonas> yes
14:20:57 <prooftechnique> int-e: I would think a fair bit
14:21:02 <b_jonas> int-e: ERC is errorrorrecting code
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14:52:39 <FireFly> ^style irc
14:52:39 <fungot> Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams)
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15:51:19 <Taneb> fungot, what's new with you?
15:51:19 <fungot> Taneb: there's still nothing threatening about **********s. and hey, the entire point
15:51:36 <Taneb> That was very profound
16:04:59 <int-e> `? *
16:05:00 <HackEgo> Twinkle, twinkle, little star!
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16:11:04 <myname> people disagreed with me over 6 times 9 being 42. i was disappoint
16:11:18 <izabera> tell em base 13
16:11:37 <myname> i could, but i told em adams
16:11:49 <tromp> use church numerals to avoid all confusion
16:12:56 <Taneb> > fix ("ONE MORE THAN " ++)
16:12:57 <lambdabot> "ONE MORE THAN ONE MORE THAN ONE MORE THAN ONE MORE THAN ONE MORE THAN ONE M...
16:14:28 <Taneb> Aaargh, I still need to document COMPLEX on the wiki
16:29:09 <b_jonas> `olist 1044
16:29:10 <HackEgo> olist 1044: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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16:33:55 <Sgeo> b_jonas, ty
16:43:00 <Sgeo> ais523 is now in Facebook trending because of a speedrun
16:44:33 <Taneb> Well done him
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16:59:56 <b_jonas> oh!
17:00:12 <b_jonas> `random-card \A..thersnatch
17:00:17 <HackEgo> AEthersnatch \ 4UU \ Instant \ Gain control of target spell. You may choose new targets for it. (If that spell becomes a permanent, it enters the battlefield under your control.) \ C15-R
17:00:40 <b_jonas> I didn't know they finally printed this
17:01:22 <b_jonas> (now I want an aura version of this too)
17:16:37 <b_jonas> (that would be much cheaper, because then you don't get the permanent)
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17:17:17 <int-e> myname: Douglas Adams said about this: I may be a sorry case, but I don't write jokes in base 13.'
17:18:16 <myname> i know
17:21:59 <b_jonas> `random-card
17:21:59 <HackEgo> Relic Barrier \ 2 \ Artifact \ {T}: Tap target artifact. \ LE-U, 5DN-U
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18:19:45 <zzo38> Other version would be: Target player gains control of target spell. You may choose new targets for it.
18:30:29 <int-e> "You"?
18:31:49 <int-e> that could be awkward
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19:15:49 <zzo38> I thought of idea of a new kind of poker game, that you cannot make change of poker chips. For example if you have 100 white chips and 100 red chips, and white chips are worth 1 point and red chips are worth 5 points. If later on in the game you have to pay 3 points to call but you have only red chips, then you cannot call; you must fold or raise.
19:16:49 <shachaf> Why?
19:17:19 <zzo38> Can you be more specific please?
19:17:33 <shachaf> Why do you want to disallow change?
19:18:08 <wob_jonas> couldn't you just pay two red chips then?
19:18:36 <zzo38> It is just an idea, that is all.
19:18:55 <zzo38> wob_jonas: You can but it is a raise. You cannot call because you need three white chips to call.
19:19:48 <wob_jonas> and if the other player also has only red chips after those 3 white chips, then you two can't stop until you fold or all in
19:20:00 <wob_jonas> dunno, that would be a strange game
19:20:31 <zzo38> Yes, I know it is strange, but that is just the idea I came up with. Variants of this kind of game can be made up of course.
19:23:19 <shachaf> How about a variant where you can exchange a red chip five white chips at any time?
19:23:21 <zzo38> But I do not think it would be common if you started with 100 white chips, that after that you have two player both with only red chips anyways like that, unless of course their intention is to go all in
19:23:49 <shachaf> for
19:24:02 <shachaf> Red chips are supposed to be worth five white chips, but if you can't trade them easily, then they're worth less than that.
19:24:20 <shachaf> You need liquidity to make them really be worth that much in a case like that.
19:24:23 <zzo38> shachaf: In a normal poker game you could, assuming you have enough poker chips to implement that, of course.
19:24:26 <shachaf> Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity.
19:25:11 <int-e> solid advice?
19:26:23 <zzo38> Another way can be: If at the beginning of the deal you have only red chips, you can exchange two red chips for ten white chips; if the ante or blind is not a multiple of five this will be necessary anyways. This also mean that white chips are slowly replenished in this way.
19:31:37 <wob_jonas> shachaf: yes, that's what happens here too, sadly, ever since 2015 automn when the Post announced they're no longer changing forint banknotes to smaller ones for free.
19:32:14 <wob_jonas> their rates are so high that I'm actually incentivized to buy a single envelope for 5 forint, repeated up to 7 times, to change a 20000 forint note to 2000 forint notes, rather than pay their normal change fees
19:32:25 <wob_jonas> that would take a lot of time of the cashier of course
19:32:35 <wob_jonas> so they might kick me up when I try it
19:33:10 <wob_jonas> hmm no, it's only up to 5 times I think
19:34:56 <wob_jonas> no, up to 4 times
19:34:59 <wob_jonas> or something, I can't count
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19:49:51 <wob_jonas> `random-pokemon
19:49:51 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-pokemon: not found
19:50:02 <wob_jonas> `encounter
19:50:03 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: encounter: not found
19:50:08 <wob_jonas> `random-encounter
19:50:09 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-encounter: not found
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22:29:16 <fizzie> Was there something one should do in particular in Cambridge, England?
22:29:56 <gamemanj> sound posh
22:29:59 <gamemanj> drink tea
22:30:21 * gamemanj thinks for a second
22:30:33 <gamemanj> sneak into the library and read stuff at midnight?
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22:32:16 <fizzie> I think we'll be doing a day trip, not overlapping with midnight.
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22:32:40 <gamemanj> If it's a day trip, then you probably live in England, correct?
22:32:47 <fizzie> London, yes.
22:33:11 <gamemanj> Ok, so basically that just leaves Cambridge-specific stuff.
22:33:54 <fizzie> Yes, I thought the tea thing was a little too general.
22:34:00 <gamemanj> Maybe try dressing to blend in with the crowd... and sneak into the library to learn stuff. (I have no idea, really.)
22:34:35 <fizzie> For the record, I just stuck on the ", England" part because I also have a trip to Cambridge, MA, and didn't want to be ambiguous.
22:35:27 <gamemanj> error: too many cambridges
22:36:12 <fizzie> And I'm not event going to Cambridge, Ontario at all.
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22:54:59 <quintopia> helloily
22:58:44 <izabera> another terror attack in france https://www.reddit.com/live/x99pqdwudg0l/
23:00:55 <quintopia> shit
23:01:06 <quintopia> FUCK YOU 2016
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23:11:35 <boily> quinthellopia, izabellora.
23:11:37 <boily> AGAIN?
23:12:01 <izabera> looks like so
23:19:09 <quintopia> and the murderer already managed to get himself martyred. fuck the world. anyone know where i can get a rip van winkle drug?
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23:33:31 <quintopia> i've been sucked into the random-space-jam-mashups vortex of the youtube remix community again--
23:33:54 <quintopia> the danciest of strange attractos
23:37:50 <boily> youtube has weird corners.
23:39:49 <quintopia> some of the corners are sharp
23:40:32 <shachaf> oerjan: Day
23:40:36 <oerjan> magandang gaboily
23:40:43 <oerjan> shachaf: wat?
23:40:55 <shachaf> Well, you usually say Nite when you leave.
23:40:59 <shachaf> But then there's no way to respond.
23:41:10 <shachaf> On the other hand it's hardly daytime for you right now.
23:41:15 * oerjan notices that his nvg shell account seems to have lost its quotas. he's not sure whether to be delighted or worried.
23:41:29 <shachaf> What are its quotas?
23:41:33 <shachaf> Something microscopic?
23:42:04 <oerjan> a few hundred Mb
23:42:27 <oerjan> by "lost" i mean quota now reports there are no quotas.
23:42:54 <boily> trathnóerjana maith duit. tagalog?
23:43:38 <oerjan> yep!
23:44:14 <boily> yé :D
23:44:38 <oerjan> that did look gaelic, which it was.
23:44:40 <quintopia> coily
23:45:13 <quintopia> (do you recognize that lang oerjan?)
23:45:48 <oerjan> quintopia: a _bit_ short...
23:46:00 <oerjan> could be ciao, which is at least italian.
23:46:04 <boily> oerjan: the Irish variant of.
23:46:13 <quintopia> oerjan: nope
23:46:19 <quintopia> boily: your guess?
23:47:17 <oerjan> i still guess it's romance or slavic. portuguese?
23:47:48 <oerjan> (just because it uses c. hm so does turkish...)
23:47:52 <boily> most probably not slavic.
23:48:12 <boily> vietnamese, possibly? eventually?
23:48:22 <oerjan> boily: i _think_ some south slavic languages borrowed ciao...
23:48:26 <boily> no!
23:48:29 <boily> found!
23:48:34 <boily> quintopia: nice choice :D
23:48:43 <oerjan> wat.
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23:50:22 <oerjan> maybe it's actually québécois. that language is weird...
23:50:50 <boily> ha ha! we're still using «bonsoir».
23:50:55 <oerjan> time for some more cheating...
23:52:00 <oerjan> croatian has Ćao
23:52:30 <boily> not even close to the cigar.
23:52:59 * oerjan is obviously just reading through a list now.
23:53:23 <shachaf> An ølist?
23:53:34 <shachaf> `? oerjan
23:53:38 <shachaf> `? ørjan
23:53:58 <HackEgo> Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
23:54:00 <HackEgo> ​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
23:54:02 <boily> `? œrjan
23:54:03 <HackEgo> ​œrjan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:54:18 <oerjan> hm nothing promising on that list
23:54:29 <oerjan> as in, nothing starting with "co"
23:54:53 <shachaf> `slwd ørjan//s#^#Your pal #
23:54:59 <HackEgo> wisdom/ørjan//Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
23:56:12 <shachaf> your pal ørjan johansen
23:57:30 <shachaf> an expert in new ro science
23:57:42 <shachaf> ro science is presumably the science of persistent data structures
23:57:54 <quintopia> *rho science
23:58:00 <shachaf> Ah, even better.
23:58:16 <shachaf> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7494472
23:58:17 <shachaf> oh man
23:58:21 <shachaf> a new rho mutation
23:58:41 <oerjan> bah there, at the end of "good evening"
23:59:02 <oerjan> my only defense is i actually thought of it before finding it.
23:59:28 <oerjan> that's pretty short indeed.
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2016-07-15
00:00:24 <quintopia> ;)
00:00:33 <shachaf> Oh, I should've known "coily".
00:01:35 <oerjan> oh apparently it means "hello" as well, it's just not on that list.
00:01:58 <boily> shacherevtov.
00:02:13 <boily> yeah, it covers everything helloy.
00:02:28 <shachaf> boily: you can do better than that
00:03:05 <shachaf> boily: for example look up the word for "dawn" hth
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00:03:22 <boily> שהחרב טוב?
00:03:37 <boily> . o O ( hmm... IRC doesn't seem to support RTL... )
00:03:41 <shachaf> boily: that certainly introduced an extra letter
00:04:00 <boily> oops.
00:04:06 <boily> s/ה//
00:04:26 <shachaf> `learn Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science.
00:04:29 <HackEgo> Learned 'rho': Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science.
00:04:43 <oerjan> boily: i think that's entirely dependent of your client setup.
00:04:51 <shachaf> I'm sure oerjan can make that work better.
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00:06:26 <boily> `? shachaf
00:06:28 <HackEgo> shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
00:06:43 <shachaf> `? boily
00:06:44 <HackEgo> ​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist.
00:07:04 <shachaf> boily is a meta rho logist?
00:07:15 <boily> `slwd shachaf//s#^shachaf#Shachaf of the Dawn#
00:07:18 <HackEgo> wisdom/shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
00:07:27 <shachaf> boily: ?
00:07:40 * boily ceremoniously mapoles shachaf. 1.0 shachaf.
00:07:43 <quintopia> i think the greek word for psychchology was...ψυχολογία
00:10:41 <quintopia> Today's haiku by tia:
00:10:47 <quintopia> You don't eat Taco Bell
00:10:57 <quintopia> You only rent it for a while,
00:11:04 <quintopia> then it returns home.
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00:16:21 * oerjan spots a shachaf luxon above.
00:16:30 <oerjan> they exist!
00:16:41 <quintopia> the joyluxon club?
00:16:51 <shachaf> @wn luxon
00:16:54 <lambdabot> No match for "luxon".
00:17:24 <quintopia> use the wiki search
00:18:06 <shachaf> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=luxon
00:18:38 <shachaf> Taneb: Might I add that Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is an excellent name?
00:18:50 <Akaibu> anyone want to give this a try? matching are the top 10k passwords, non matching is 1k randomly gen'ed "passwords" between 5-10 alphanumeric http://regex.alf.nu/2fdfc932f94406a31682ca4f25b3588cb4ec2f66
00:19:08 <oerjan> `learn Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites.
00:19:21 <HackEgo> Learned 'smell': Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites.
00:19:33 <oerjan> that's where the rho led me, and i had to follow it.
00:19:42 <quintopia> `? women
00:19:43 <HackEgo> women? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:20:09 <quintopia> `learn Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell')
00:20:13 <HackEgo> Learned 'women': Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell')
00:21:10 <shachaf> it doesn't lead you to trhondheim?
00:21:24 <shachaf> Akaibu: How many points do I aim for?
00:21:27 <oerjan> how can it, i'm already there
00:21:49 <oerjan> although trondheim _is_ good at new rho science, we got a nobel prize after all
00:21:56 <Akaibu> i'll be blunt i just plugged in the word list of http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/73435/random-passwords-vs-common-passwords into the site
00:22:11 <Akaibu> and with the shortest soultion there i got 97401 points
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00:22:48 <shachaf> If you press esc in the input field, your solution disappears.
00:22:53 <shachaf> And you can't undo to get it back,
00:22:56 <shachaf> s/.$/./
00:23:05 <shachaf> So I definitely won't be trying again.
00:24:36 <Akaibu> shachaf: i can recover it
00:24:44 <Akaibu> ctrl+z
00:24:51 <shachaf> I can't. Cmd-z
00:24:55 <Akaibu> ctrl+y to redo
00:25:06 <Akaibu> well rip
00:25:10 <shachaf> Taneb: http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/esoteric/ says "Read Fast" instead of "Real Fast" in one place.
00:26:19 <shachaf> @tell Taneb see tunes.org logs at 2016-07-14 at 16:25 hth
00:26:19 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:27:16 <shachaf> I'm not sure why I did that.
00:27:55 <shachaf> `? real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download
00:27:57 <HackEgo> Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is the most readable functional programming language out there.
00:30:37 <boily> @ask Taneb * poke poke poke * you still alive?
00:30:37 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:32:56 <quintopia> @ask boily how goes the courging?
00:32:56 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:37:37 <zgrep> s/rg/gar/
00:39:37 <adu> where is hppavilion?
00:40:04 <shachaf> `? hppavilion[1]
00:40:06 <HackEgo> hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless.
00:40:10 <adu> yes, hppavilion[1]
00:40:17 <shachaf> `` rgrep higgledy wisdom
00:40:23 <adu> where is hppavilion[1]?
00:40:29 <HackEgo> wisdom/hppavilion1:higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed
00:41:07 <shachaf> that's a scow double dactyl
00:41:23 <adu> has anyone seen hppavilion[1]?
00:41:39 <adu> did hppavilion[1] die?
00:44:01 <oerjan> he's alaskan, a grizzly or polar bear probably got him.
00:46:12 <shachaf> polar bears are typically found in eastern europe hth
00:46:31 <oerjan> i don't think so, shachaf
00:46:38 <shachaf> hm
00:46:41 <shachaf> maybe it's central europe
00:46:56 <oerjan> i think you're confusing polar and polish.
00:47:05 <shachaf> oh, quite right
00:47:22 <oerjan> the pun only works with the noun.
00:47:26 <shachaf> thanks for clearing that up
00:48:02 <oerjan> yw
00:48:35 <shachaf> polar bears are found in the arctic circle
00:48:40 <shachaf> that's why they're called polar
00:48:53 <adu> oerjan: oh, does Alaska have that thing that like "night" but it lasts 6 months?
00:49:15 <shachaf> copolar bears live in antarctica
00:49:18 <oerjan> adu: technically only the poles strictly have that.
00:49:46 <shachaf> oerjan: i think that weather would be considered unusual in eastern europe hth
00:50:08 <oerjan> no, i'm pretty sure they have weather there too
00:50:17 <oerjan> (parsing is fun)
00:50:46 <oerjan> also i don't think midnight sun counts as weather per se.
00:50:59 <prooftechnique> adu: Sweden has that, kind of. Mainly it's that day is only a few hours long. But then in the summer the sun never goes down
00:51:34 <shachaf> Well, if they *just* had long nights, no one would live there.
00:51:38 <shachaf> they had to sweden the deal
00:52:19 <prooftechnique> `rimshot
00:52:20 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rimshot: not found
00:54:42 <oerjan> technically norway and alaska are about the same latitude.
00:54:51 <oerjan> which means some parts have it, some don't.
00:54:55 <shachaf> but not the same attitude
00:56:53 <oerjan> and the parts which do are not very heavily populated.
00:57:24 <oerjan> probably even more so in alaska.
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01:21:59 <oerjan> he's alive!
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01:25:20 * oerjan wonders if adu and hppavilion[1] have entered the quintopia/boily zone
01:25:41 <hppavilion[1]> That's a zone?
01:25:48 <hppavilion[1]> Is it where we alternate who's online?
01:25:53 <oerjan> exactly
01:25:57 <hppavilion[1]> Yay!
01:26:00 <hppavilion[1]> I got it right!
01:30:52 <boily> quintopia: the courging is on standby...
01:31:24 * boily will call it a night. can't focus...
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01:47:49 <izabera> `` cut -b -3,5,7-9,11- <<< qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm # this prints bytes 1,2,3,5,7,8,9 and 11 to end of line
01:47:56 <HackEgo> qwetuioasdfghjklzxcvbnm
01:48:09 <izabera> how do i do that efficiently?
01:50:17 <oerjan> wasn't that efficient
01:50:21 <oerjan> ?
01:50:41 <izabera> yes but i'm writing cut for that inutility thing
01:51:02 <oerjan> ah.
01:51:15 <Sgeo> Elixir keeps impressing me
01:51:39 <Sgeo> In surprising ways. It has lenses.
01:52:10 <shachaf> Keep a bunch of non-overlapping intervals for the parts of the file you care about, and either read or skip to the next boundary?
01:52:23 <Sgeo> (Albeit it doesn't call them lenses, and defining them is a bit odd, and they also may have an additional capability that is like half of a prism which makes me go wtf)
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01:55:14 <oerjan> . o O ( PinealGlandOptic may be missing from lens )
01:55:40 <oerjan> Sgeo: does elixir have PinealGlandOptics twh
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02:00:00 <izabera> making them non overlap is annoying :(
02:00:16 <shachaf> oerjan: what does the winchester hermit have to do with it
02:02:33 <shachaf> @google union of intervals algorithm
02:02:34 <lambdabot> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1034802/union-of-intervals
02:02:34 <lambdabot> Title: Union of intervals - Stack Overflow
02:02:40 <shachaf> izabera: try something like that maybe
02:03:08 <izabera> ok i was doing something like that
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02:33:44 <tswett> You've got a partially ordered set. Initially, every element of the set is labeled with 0.
02:34:16 <tswett> There's an algorithm you can perform on this set.
02:34:50 <tswett> Actually, scratch the "initially all 0" bit. They're all labeled with integers, but not necessary 0.
02:35:52 <tswett> Step 1: identify all pairs of two comparable elements which are labeled with the same number. Step 2: if no pairs were identified in step 1, stop. Step 3: for each pair identified in step 1, increase the label of the greater element by 1, and decrease the label of the lesser element by 1. Step 4: return to step 1.
02:36:31 <tswett> It's an odd kind of sorting algorithm, I suppose.
02:36:44 <tswett> So, the question.
02:37:13 <tswett> Is there a shortcut for finding the result of this algorithm, which will give you the result faster than just naively evaluating the algorithm would?
02:39:20 <oerjan> hm does that necessarily sort
02:39:51 <tswett> No.
02:40:03 <tswett> If all elements initially have different labels, the algorithm does nothing.
02:40:15 <oerjan> i mean, even if you start with all 0.
02:40:53 <oerjan> also, an element in step 3 can be part of more than one pair, possibly on different sides.
02:41:10 <tswett> I think no. Suppose the set is a > b, a > c, a > d, e > a.
02:41:26 <tswett> Then after one iteration, a goes to 2, e goes to 1, b-d go to -1, and the algorithm stops.
02:41:42 <tswett> a ends up with a higher label than e even though it's lesser.
02:41:48 <oerjan> doesn't a go to 1.
02:41:52 <oerjan> no wait
02:42:00 <tswett> No; its label is increased 3 times and decreased once.
02:42:20 <oerjan> very well.
02:42:54 <oerjan> no idea on your main question.
02:43:57 <tswett> There's probably no easy way, since it's a somewhat complex and arbitrary algorithm.
02:44:06 <tswett> Perhaps one could even make a programming language out of it.
02:44:15 <oerjan> your task shall be to prove this PSPACE-complete hth
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02:44:30 <tswett> os
02:45:07 <oerjan> actually, -hard, it's obviously not a decision problem.
02:46:47 <oerjan> actually, there's probably some number that's increasing at each step, so not that hard.
02:47:26 <izabera> the number of steps so far is increasing at each step!
02:48:00 <alercah> hmm
02:48:16 <tswett> Is the algorithm guaranteed to terminate?
02:48:22 * tswett thinks!
02:48:34 <alercah> I believe so
02:48:40 <tswett> The label of a maximal element never decreases and the label of a minimal element never increases. So the spread never decreases.
02:48:41 <alercah> I think it would need a cycle in the order to go indefinitely
02:49:14 <tswett> If the spread increases indefinitely, then the size of the smallest gap tends to infinity.
02:49:21 <oerjan> i think the "spread" is the kind of number i was thinking of.
02:49:44 <alercah> if spread is the difference between highest and lowest numbers, it's not strictly increasing
02:49:51 <tswett> If the spread does not increase indefinitely, the whole thing must cycle.
02:49:54 <oerjan> obviously there's a maximal possible gap.
02:50:26 <oerjan> for a given graph.
02:50:34 <tswett> Is that so?
02:51:05 <tswett> Hm, something just occurred to me.
02:51:16 <oerjan> i think so anyway.
02:51:35 <tswett> Wait, something else just occurred to me.
02:51:46 <tswett> Let me go back to the first thing.
02:52:00 <tswett> You could think of this as "moving tokens" between elements. Tokens only ever move from lesser elements to greater elements.
02:52:08 <oerjan> in order to increase an element, another element must be decreased, and there is a maximal amount for each.
02:52:21 <alercah> tswett: ah yes
02:52:23 <oerjan> and they had to be equal to start with.
02:52:29 <alercah> yeah so that guarantees termination
02:52:36 <oerjan> hm right
02:52:44 <alercah> oh wait, not on its own it doesn't
02:53:25 <tswett> And they never move "with the gradient".
02:53:38 <alercah> since there's an infinite supply
02:53:47 <alercah> but for one element to decrease indefinitely
02:54:04 <alercah> it must give charge to another element of the same charge
02:54:27 <alercah> so that element must decrease indefinitely, and have two other infinitely decreasing elements to give it charge
02:54:36 <tswett> Sounds about right.
02:54:46 <alercah> (or some combination of other elements which give it charge faster than the first one takes it, anyway)
02:54:53 <tswett> Technically, I never said that the set must be finite. But I was thinking it all along.
02:54:58 <alercah> this turns into an infinite regression
02:55:11 <alercah> you might be able to concoct something weird with an infinite poset
02:55:20 <alercah> certainly it wouldn't necessarily terminate
02:55:37 <alercah> just label each natural number with itself and set the charge of 0 to 1
02:55:51 <alercah> then each iteration just moves the excess charge to the next number
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03:01:08 <tswett> The algorithm isn't defined if an element has infinitely many elements which are greater or less than it.
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04:01:06 <izabera> nice
04:15:04 <alercah> `unicode U+3523
04:15:10 <HackEgo> ​㔣
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04:43:06 <izabera> https://arin.ga/CuwF1d/raw is there any obvious problem with this? <.<
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05:28:57 <Anarchokawaii> if a object with functions is a struct
05:29:17 <Anarchokawaii> than what is an object without attributes
05:33:40 <zzo38> I don't know?
05:35:59 <Anarchokawaii> why does that statement end with a question mark
05:36:39 <zzo38> Because I don't know
05:37:18 <Anarchokawaii> that makes no sense
05:40:59 <oerjan> why do you think that makes no sense.
05:41:30 * oerjan hides.
05:41:31 <Cale> We were discussing you, not me.
05:41:47 <oerjan> hiliza
05:42:15 <zzo38> Cale: I believe you, but why did you answer then?
05:42:30 <Cale> Oh... but why did me answer then?
05:45:49 <zzo38> I hoped you know
05:48:27 <Anarchokawaii> because the statement "i don't know?" sounds like an introspective question
05:49:54 <zzo38> What does "introspective question" mean?
05:50:40 <Sgeo> "I don't know?" seems like you don't know if you don't know.
05:51:24 <zzo38> O, is that what it means?
05:52:48 * Sgeo has probably done the unhelpful question mark at points
05:53:30 <Anarchokawaii> yes zzo38
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05:54:28 <oerjan> all question marks are helpful, so there?
05:54:33 <Anarchokawaii> so do you guys know the answer to my question
05:55:03 <oerjan> an object without attributes sounds like something for the other kind of #esoteric.
05:55:14 <Anarchokawaii> what's that?
05:55:19 <oerjan> `? #esoteric
05:55:28 <HackEgo> ​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts.
05:55:33 <oerjan> hm maybe not the right one
05:55:35 <oerjan> `? esoteric
05:55:37 <HackEgo> This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.
05:55:48 <Cale> A featureless blob?
05:56:49 <Sgeo> It would make more sense if the first part was "If a struct with functions is an object"
05:56:57 <Sgeo> I think?
05:57:25 <izabera> why does that statement end with a question mark
05:57:39 <Sgeo> Because I'm not sure how much I think that
05:57:49 <izabera> that makes no sense
05:57:52 <Sgeo> So I'm questioning whether it's what I think
05:58:15 <Sgeo> why do you think that makes no sense.
05:58:30 <zzo38> Why do you think no sense?
05:58:53 <Cale> We were discussing you, not me.
05:59:28 <zzo38> No we aren't
05:59:32 <Cale> This channel is nothing but chat bots talking to each other endlessly
05:59:43 <Cale> Why not?
06:00:25 <Anarchokawaii> imagine an object oriented language where their is objects with methods but no functions outside objects and no attributes but variables outside objects and no subroutines besides methods
06:01:20 <Sgeo> I would call such an object a stateless "module", because there's no point to an object with no data attached.
06:01:27 <Sgeo> Other than to organize functions
06:01:39 <Sgeo> If I'm understanding you properly, and excluding stuff like let-over-lambda trickery
06:02:18 <hppavilion[1]> If there was ever a year for a third party to win the election, this is that year
06:02:53 <Anarchokawaii> if their is ever a year for glorious revolution this is the year
06:02:59 <hppavilion[1]> Anarchokawaii: That too
06:03:07 <hppavilion[1]> Anarchokawaii: Want to help me overthrow the US government?
06:03:17 <hppavilion[1]> Alternatively, I might just have to leave the county
06:03:18 <Anarchokawaii> Arise ye workers from your slumber
06:03:20 <hppavilion[1]> *country
06:03:20 * Sgeo actually kind of likes Hillary as President
06:03:32 <Anarchokawaii> Arise ye prisoners of want
06:03:52 <hppavilion[1]> Like, I hate when people say "If X wins the election, I'm moving to [Canada|England|Russia|China|ISIS]"
06:03:53 <Anarchokawaii> For reason and revolt now thunders
06:04:07 <hppavilion[1]> But honestly, I really hate both major candidates
06:04:10 <Anarchokawaii> At last ends the age of can't
06:04:38 <hppavilion[1]> Trump is an abomination before god, and Hillary seems a little disturbing AND plays the gender card too much
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06:05:44 <hppavilion[1]> tromp_ is cool. Trump is not cool.
06:06:15 <hppavilion[1]> Like, for me, it's not "If x wins the election I'm moving out" so much as "If any of the major candidates wins the election I'm moving out"
06:07:11 <hppavilion[1]> Hopefully, something bizarre will happen and Bernie will be nominated instead of Hillary (many of the states she won she only won because of already-bizarre and broken rules)
06:07:47 <pikhq> It would take something really weird for Bernie to get nominated, and there is *no way* he's running third party.
06:08:20 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Even if he did run third party, is would be unlikely for him to win third party
06:08:39 <pikhq> Yep.
06:08:41 <hppavilion[1]> (Has third party EVER won, barring third parties that were actively becoming first or second party?)
06:08:50 <pikhq> He'd be splitting the Dem vote.
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06:11:20 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Yeah, that'd be a problem
06:11:31 <Anarchokawaii> hilary clinton was on the board of directors of walmart
06:11:37 <hppavilion[1]> Anarchokawaii: Really?
06:11:50 <Anarchokawaii> yeah
06:12:32 <Anarchokawaii> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/31/clinton-remained-silent-a_n_84246.html
06:13:07 * pikhq isn't exactly pleased by Hillary, but of the likely candidates she's definitely preferable.
06:13:52 <hppavilion[1]> Yep, found it
06:14:04 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Hillary is definitely the best option out of the major ones
06:14:19 <hppavilion[1]> (Translation: Hillary is better than Trump, but that's not really an accomplishment)
06:14:32 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, I really would love to see Trump as president
06:14:43 <hppavilion[1]> But only in the Seth Meyers Chicago President scenario
06:16:42 <Anarchokawaii> fuck hilary clinton
06:16:47 <Anarchokawaii> fuck the clintons
06:17:36 <hppavilion[1]> Anarchokawaii: Lewinski certainly took that advice to heart
06:18:02 <Anarchokawaii> haha
06:18:17 <hppavilion[1]> But yeah, seriously, fuck Hillary
06:19:11 <hppavilion[1]> Sure, the US should probably have had a female president by now (barring: Edith Wilson, possibly), but we shouldn't elect a woman solely to get that; we should elect a woman because her policies are something we want, and her reproductive organs are just a cool afterthought to the election
06:19:30 <hppavilion[1]> "Hey, does this make her the first woman president?" "Oh yeah, I think it does, cool!"
06:21:18 <pikhq> It's not as though that's the only reason people are voting for her though.
06:21:33 <pikhq> Remember, many people genuinely *like* the Clintons.
06:21:47 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Yeah, but she plays that card far too much
06:21:53 <hppavilion[1]> Like, one time makes me a little uncomfortable
06:21:59 <hppavilion[1]> There are compilations of her using that argument
06:22:49 <hppavilion[1]> I'm also not a fan of Bill Clinton, because he made the policy that says if you have ever been convicted of a felony- no matter how minor, no matter if you served your time and changed- you can't get access to public housing (or numerous other government benefits, IIRC)
06:27:22 <hppavilion[1]> Has anyone actually attempted to realize the title text of https://xkcd.com/856/?
06:27:31 <hppavilion[1]> Like, I'm freaking out now
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08:28:10 <Taneb> @ping
08:28:10 <lambdabot> pong
08:28:17 <Taneb> Hmm
08:28:31 <int-e> hmm?
08:28:42 <Taneb> A web page isn't loading
08:29:03 <int-e> oh. agreed, hmm.
08:30:59 <Taneb> @tell shachaf I no longer update that one, https://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/esolangs.html is canonical
08:30:59 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
08:31:11 <Taneb> @tell boily I'm fairly sure I'm alive
08:31:11 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
08:32:08 <shachaf> @tell Taneb ok, but it's the third result in https://encrypted.google.com/search?q="real+fast+nora's+hair+salon+3:+shear+disaster+download"
08:32:20 <shachaf> @tell Taneb maybe you should add a redirect or something
08:32:40 <Taneb> @tell shachaf that might be a good idea
08:32:40 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
08:32:46 <shachaf> @messages-loud
08:32:46 <lambdabot> Taneb said 5s ago: that might be a good idea
08:32:55 <shachaf> I'm right here, you don't need to tell lambdabot to tell me things.
08:33:01 <Taneb> Yes I do
08:33:14 <Taneb> Also, hmm
08:33:20 <Taneb> My mouse seems to have stopped working
08:33:21 <Taneb> Again
08:33:41 <shachaf> I mean, sure, technically you need to.
08:33:46 <shachaf> But you don't need to need to.
08:35:57 <shachaf> Taneb: when are you visiting north america again?
08:36:09 <Taneb> Sometime after August
08:36:42 <shachaf> Do you have an upper bound?
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08:39:21 <Taneb> No, but I do have a Rubik's cube
08:41:25 <shachaf> Taneb invented Fueue?
08:41:32 <shachaf> `? fueue
08:41:37 <shachaf> `? tanebvention
08:41:38 <HackEgo> fueue? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
08:41:40 <HackEgo> Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex.
08:41:51 <Taneb> I don't think esolangs count as tanebventions
08:42:12 <shachaf> `sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/sub/the/Fueue, the/
08:42:13 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 11: unknown option to `s'
08:42:20 <shachaf> `sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/Fueue, the/
08:42:26 <HackEgo> wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex.
08:42:29 <shachaf> Why not? Because you actually invented them?
08:42:45 <Taneb> Because they're more like pieces of art
08:43:04 <shachaf> So is necessity.
08:43:09 <shachaf> Not to mention D-modules.
08:43:18 <shachaf> I can't believe D-modules are gone from Tanebventions.
08:43:24 <shachaf> They were the centerpiece.
08:43:29 <shachaf> `? tanebventions: maths
08:43:32 <HackEgo> Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms.
08:43:55 <shachaf> And it ruined the whole meter (or is it metre?) of the wisdom entry.
08:44:04 <shachaf> I previously had it set to music, in my head.
08:44:35 <shachaf> How quickly can you solve your Rubik's cube?
08:45:30 <Taneb> My best is 1 minute 40
08:45:59 <shachaf> I think I used to solve in around 2 minutes.
08:46:09 <shachaf> That was over a decade ago, of course.
08:46:21 <shachaf> When oerjan roamed the Earth.
08:46:36 <shachaf> (I guess he trondheims the Earth now.)
08:46:43 <shachaf> I'm not sure I even remember how to solve it now.
08:46:53 <shachaf> I probably could figure it out.
08:51:41 <hppavilion[1]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events includes, towards the very end, actual legit predictions
08:52:06 <shachaf> See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
08:52:12 <shachaf> I wouldn't call those "dates" exactly.
08:53:12 <hppavilion[1]> Oh! We're in the middle of a jubilee!
08:53:18 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: By that logic, neither is carbon dating
08:54:01 <Taneb> shachaf, just did it in 1:55
08:54:36 <shachaf> Taneb: do you still want magic: the gathering jams
08:54:37 <hppavilion[1]> I'm surprised it doesn't include the day we past the Point-Of-No-Return for expenditure of resources and destruction of planetary integrity
08:54:42 <hppavilion[1]> (Or maybe it's in the past one)
08:55:21 <shachaf> That link I posted is pretty depressing.
08:55:22 <Taneb> shachaf, can you make M:tG into jam?
08:55:34 <shachaf> It's already a jam.
08:55:46 <Taneb> Wouldn't you need to add pectin?
08:56:56 <shachaf> I don't believe so.
08:56:59 <hppavilion[1]> OK, you know what?
08:57:06 <hppavilion[1]> nth century is confusing
08:57:19 <hppavilion[1]> The years from 1 to 99 will henceforth be known as the "0th century"
08:57:37 <hppavilion[1]> And all subsequent centuries will be calculated using all but the last 2 digits
08:57:43 <hppavilion[1]> We're in the 20th century right now. Thre.
08:57:47 <hppavilion[1]> *There.
08:58:59 <Taneb> I think you might find it hard to gain adoption for your idea, hppavilion[1]
08:59:15 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: Yeah, well...
08:59:18 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, you're right
08:59:20 <hppavilion[1]> But still.
08:59:23 <hppavilion[1]> It's stupid.
08:59:37 <hppavilion[1]> Wikipedia often mixes them in the same paragraph, which leads to confusion
09:00:23 <hppavilion[1]> Imagine: "In 1604, a manuscript quoting a late 16th-century physician..."
09:00:32 * hppavilion[1] prays that he got those in the right order
09:02:09 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, the world is definitely not going to end this year
09:02:41 <shachaf> It *is* confusing.
09:02:47 <shachaf> And people are elitist about it, too.
09:03:03 <Taneb> hppavilion[1], not many words rhyme with "sixteen"
09:03:04 <shachaf> They learned that "xth century" means "the century whose first two digits are x-1"
09:03:28 <shachaf> And now they look down on anyone who forgets that or finds it difficult to do in the middle of a conversation about something else.
09:03:31 <shachaf> Plain elitism.
09:07:21 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Plane Elitism
09:07:37 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, just because you're a circle means you're better than everybody else.
09:07:44 <hppavilion[1]> Seriously, Jesus...
09:08:10 <hppavilion[1]> I just sent a message to Trump's campaign and gave him some new crazy shit to say. I hope someone reads it and passes it up xD
09:09:25 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/rights-exempt/nat-geo-staff-graphics-illustrations/2016/07/juno/01-juno.ngsversion.1467724642813.gif
09:09:34 <shachaf> you're really not a fan of your capital city, huh
09:10:20 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Not particularly, and it's going to get worse in November (or January, I guess)
09:10:27 <hppavilion[1]> That gif is amazing
09:10:36 <shachaf> you can't even spell it right
09:10:51 <shachaf> or maybe it's just nasa
09:11:44 <hppavilion[1]> Wait, what?
09:11:49 <hppavilion[1]> What can't I spell right?
09:11:56 <shachaf> nothing
09:12:06 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Did I spell something wrong? You're freaking me out
09:26:01 <b_jonas> `dateu
09:26:03 <HackEgo> 2016-07-15 08:26:02.086582000+00:00
09:26:10 <b_jonas> thx
09:29:59 <hppavilion[1]> SEEEEEEEEEEEPPPUKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
09:31:11 <myname> good morning to you, too
09:38:03 <fizzie> Finnish doesn't use "Nth century", we use something that's a bit akin to e.g. "1800s", "1900s" and so on.
09:39:31 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: All the people I've seen use both, so...
09:39:46 <b_jonas> fizzie: yes, that's much easier than the crazy measurement units people use here, where the amount of meat you ask can be eg. 20 decagrams, 40 decagrams, or half a kilo, all measured in whatever unit gives the shortest pronunciation
09:40:10 <b_jonas> it's just ridiculous
09:40:42 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: Well, we never use the "Nth century" form.
09:40:58 <fizzie> Except Google Translate apparently does, if you ask for English-to-Finnish. But it shouldn't.
09:41:10 <b_jonas> and the scales print slips saying eg. "200 g", "400 g", "500 g" because the crazy units are no longer shorter in writing
09:43:26 <myname> is 200 such a long word in relation to 20?
09:43:45 <myname> also, where is "here"?
09:44:16 <b_jonas> `? bioethics
09:44:17 <HackEgo> bioethics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:44:59 <b_jonas> myname: well no, I guess "400 grams" would actually be shorter than "40 decagrams"
09:45:05 <b_jonas> so it's not strictly the shortest version
09:45:26 <int-e> would you say "40 decas"?
09:46:30 <int-e> (here we use "kilo" for "kilogram" when shopping... so why not do the same for decagrams (a unit, that fortunately, isn't fashionable here))
09:48:13 <b_jonas> int-e: yes, and to complicate the issue, depending on the sentence it may be in two different cases, which also affects which one is shorter, by one syllable
09:49:05 <myname> b_jonas: where is "here"?
09:49:56 <hppavilion[1]> Oh...
09:49:59 <hppavilion[1]> There was another attack in france?
09:50:16 <b_jonas> myname: Hungary
09:51:01 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: another compared to what? there was one yesterday evening
09:51:56 <hppavilion[1]> b_jonas: The one in paris a few months ago
09:52:04 <hppavilion[1]> I saw a logo with the French flag in it on... a site
09:52:28 <hppavilion[1]> And I assumed it was an anniversary of an attack
09:52:52 <hppavilion[1]> (I initially thought Paris, but it felt like it couldn't be Paris because it was way too recent)
09:53:05 <hppavilion[1]> And... yeah, another one
09:53:12 <b_jonas> this one was in Nice
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12:05:28 <hppavilion[1]> https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/4rwwqh/what_if_the_united_states_had_made_the_mistake_of/ seems to be doing well
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12:19:01 <hppavilion[1]> hadu!
12:19:09 <hppavilion[1]> We have broken the quinboily cycle!
12:19:34 <hppavilion[1]> @tell oerjan I'm free!
12:19:34 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
12:19:37 <hppavilion[1]> adu?
12:19:42 <LKoen> helloppavilion
12:24:58 <adu> hppavilion[1]: hey
12:25:18 <adu> hppavilion[1]: what is a quinboily cycle?
12:25:22 <hppavilion[1]> Yay!
12:25:26 <hppavilion[1]> We alternate who's online
12:25:35 <hppavilion[1]> Because earlier today I got online just before you logged off
12:25:44 <adu> oic
12:27:02 <adu> hppavilion[1]: I haven't seen you in at least a month
12:27:59 <hppavilion[1]> Yep
12:29:15 <adu> what's new?
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13:12:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Flok * New user account
13:13:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck implementations]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48887&oldid=47344 * Flok * (+253) /* Optimizing implementations */
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14:10:19 <hppavilion[1]> Maybe we need a 1.5th world
14:10:37 <hppavilion[1]> To describe living in the first world, but in the shitty part (e.g. you're a black ex-con)
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14:27:00 <adu> hppavilion[1]: the way I was tought was that 1st world = Americas + Europe, 2nd world = Asia (e.g. Russia, China), and 3rd world = Africa
14:27:47 <hppavilion[1]> adu: Technically, the 1/2/3 comes from first world = U.S. and allies, 2nd world = USSR and allies, 3rd world = neutral
14:28:36 <adu> well, then my teacher was dumb
14:30:12 <hppavilion[1]> But now, 1st world is developed countries and 3rd world is shitty countries
14:30:32 <gamemanj> then what's the 2nd?
14:31:42 <hppavilion[1]> gamemanj: We kind of dropped it
14:31:58 <gamemanj> ...that's just plain confusing. My guesses were: Britain? Spain? Turkey? Alternate universes where Mirai Nikki is streamed to TVs to show what will happen to the world if the omnipotent government falls?
14:33:06 <adu> gamemanj: the 2nd dissappeared when the USSR did
14:33:37 <gamemanj> So, that'll be option 4 then.
14:34:18 <hppavilion[1]> I want cyrillic alphabet soup
14:35:18 <adu> Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик
14:36:04 <b_jonas> hppavilion[1]: Russian or Serbian? I'm still not convinced that "cyrillic" is a single script other than for political and historical reasons.
14:36:19 <b_jonas> I think it's two scripts.
14:36:39 <adu> b_jonas: Latin is a script
14:36:44 <b_jonas> adu: yes
14:37:04 <adu> b_jonas: almost every european language is written in Latin
14:38:06 <b_jonas> adu: Latin is a script, including even the extra-high version the Vietnamese language uses, because in a Hungarian text people use the original spelling of any proper nouns if its original spelling is in the Latin script, but transcribe it by pronunciation instead if it's not in the Latin script. That is my criterion for considering something a single script.
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14:38:47 <b_jonas> Russian text typically transcribes Serbian or Macedonian names, rather than using the original form, because it's not really the same script.
14:40:29 <b_jonas> The two are just treated the same script for some historical reasons (probably originally political), and it's very impractical to change that now, because there are shittons of text from both script encoded in the overlapping set of unicode characters, and every software expects those characters and uses different fonts for them depending on the language.
14:41:03 <adu> Vietnamese isn't written in Latin
14:41:11 <b_jonas> adu: what
14:41:23 <b_jonas> it usually is, these days
14:41:37 <b_jonas> there used to be a kanji script for it, but it's barely used now
14:41:55 <adu> Vietnamese can be written in Latin, just as any syllables can, but Vietnamese should be written in Han/Kanji
14:42:14 <b_jonas> adu: yes, and Serbian can also be written in two different scripts... it's complicated
14:42:38 <b_jonas> I don't care what it *should* be written in, but it's very often written in Latin script
14:45:39 <b_jonas> Hmm, xkcd phone 4 is better than xkcd phone 3, because in xkcd phone 4, battery is included
14:48:14 <fizzie> 12 headphone jacks sounds like quite a lot.
14:48:36 <fizzie> (And why is it in groups of 5/2/5? Design reasons?)
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14:51:30 <gamemanj> a display that stings you
14:51:33 <gamemanj> perfect security feature
14:52:25 <b_jonas> gamemanj: no, I think it's behind plexiglass so it doesn't, unless the screen breaks
14:52:59 <gamemanj> uh, the battery is non-rechargable???
14:53:15 <b_jonas> That'd be a good feature actually, then people wouldn't buy the too expensive phones that they can't afford to replace when the display breaks and keep using with a broken display.
14:53:27 <b_jonas> gamemanj: yes.
14:53:39 <gamemanj> welp, useless
14:53:55 <gamemanj> or at least, it will be in about 5 seconds
14:54:01 <gamemanj> micro-amp-hours
14:55:04 <gamemanj> also, the headphone jacks are probably to run some sort of super laser system
14:55:55 <gamemanj> ...unless you have any better ideas?
15:14:05 <zzo38> Use for recording on a tape
15:19:47 <b_jonas> Well, 3 headphone jacks are useful so you don't have to disconnect the speaker while you're copying a game from one casette to another easily.
15:20:57 <b_jonas> s/useful/convenient/
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15:23:07 <zzo38> If you have external tape recorder you will need only those to copy a tape, but if the tape stores digital data then maybe it will be useful to go through a computer first in order to reencode the data to avoid lossiness, maybe
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15:23:46 <b_jonas> zzo38: that, and also the computer can find the start and end of the file more easily than you can through hearing
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15:24:19 <zzo38> Yes, if you do not want to copy the entire tape.
15:24:38 <gamemanj> Also, the computer can verify the data is OK.
15:25:01 <gamemanj> (And of course, while you are doing this, you can have 5.1-channel music going on to pass the time.)
15:25:11 <b_jonas> gamemanj: barely. the parity bits maybe. I don't think there's any more advanced error-correcting code on the casettes. they're not CD-rom.
15:25:36 <b_jonas> gamemanj: ah yes, true! you wear 5.1 sided headphones for that and listen with your 5.1 ears
15:25:44 <gamemanj> yes
15:25:52 <b_jonas> and watch the 6D movie on the screen
15:25:53 <gamemanj> (actually it would probably involve a compass)
15:26:38 <gamemanj> (I'm not actually sure what the purpose of 5.1 is, really)
15:27:20 <b_jonas> what I don't understand is, does this have an internal modem, and if so, where do you plug in the TP telephone cable, otherwise where do you plug in the serial cable?
15:27:37 <gamemanj> There's a parallel port on the bottom, so...
15:27:46 <gamemanj> you could probably find some way of converting serial to parallel
15:27:50 <b_jonas> hmm
15:27:58 <gamemanj> though, that port does imply the phone is REALLY big
15:28:35 <b_jonas> maybe you need an USB modem
15:28:45 <b_jonas> and plug it in the USB E port
15:28:53 <gamemanj> Actually I don't see a USB port on it
15:29:02 <b_jonas> yes, the USB port is on xkcd phone 3
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15:29:16 <gamemanj> ...must be a removed feature
15:32:02 <int-e> pity that the onboard cloud doesn't look like a cloud
15:32:32 <gamemanj> maybe it's a reference to the magic smoke
15:33:54 <int-e> but meh, another xkcd phone
15:34:31 <gamemanj> I.E. the stuff that pops out when you ![-]++++[->++++<]>[-<+++++>]-----.--.+++.. a chip
15:36:38 <gamemanj> ...that was meant to be fake random terminal noise, but for some reason I got bored and decided to write brainfuck instead. And I got it wrong, too...
15:37:02 <b_jonas> gamemanj: why is it wrong? it looks right except it's all uppercase
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15:37:14 <gamemanj> b_jonas: I see you added the missing '<'?
15:37:28 <b_jonas> ah
15:37:33 <b_jonas> yeah, you need a <
15:37:44 <b_jonas> yes
15:45:26 <gamemanj> as an experiment in how simple a bytebytejump could be hardware-wise... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/minibp.circ
15:51:14 <zzo38> I don't have Logisim in my computer
15:51:27 <zzo38> Can you make the PNG of it?
15:51:29 <gamemanj> Ok.
15:52:28 <gamemanj> Do you have an unzip program?
15:52:32 <gamemanj> (just checking)
15:53:10 <zzo38> Yes, I have 7-Zip. But shouldn't just the PNG be OK?
15:53:19 <gamemanj> There are 3 circuits.
15:53:29 <gamemanj> One main one, and two sub-circuits
15:53:52 <zzo38> O, OK
15:54:13 <gamemanj> because as messy as it is I did try to modularize it a bit...
15:54:15 <gamemanj> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/minibp/data.zip
15:55:27 <zzo38> OK
15:56:09 <zzo38> In additon to 7-Zip of course I also have the standard UNIX utilities (such as tar), and also har (which I wrote by myself), and gzip (which also is included with this computer)
15:56:16 <gamemanj> "har"?
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15:56:53 <zzo38> http://zzo38computer.org/prog/har.c
15:57:20 <zzo38> It is used to deal with Hamster archives
15:57:30 <zzo38> (Other programs exist but they aren't very good)
15:57:48 <gamemanj> I'm not even sure what byte order is being used in this...
15:58:00 <gamemanj> I'm guessing that's the format's fault?
15:58:08 <zzo38> Yes it is the format's fault.
15:58:18 <zzo38> But, the byte order is the PDP byte order.
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15:59:30 <zzo38> (It is not a very good byte order, but that is how Hamster archive works.)
15:59:38 <gamemanj> That byte order would probably break most C applications nowadays :)
15:59:52 <gamemanj> they support little-endian, they support big-endian, but I bet they don't support PDP-endian
16:00:52 <zzo38> You can easily implement any of those three ways in a C code though, independently of the native endian of the computer.
16:01:24 <zzo38> Such thing is needed anyways because it is different for different file formats and protocols. (Many file formats and network protocols use big-endian.)
16:02:34 <gamemanj> I'm pretty sure some people fread into a struct buffer and then switch the ints around, which is fine for the standard endians, but not good if the computer is anything "unsupported"... better to do what you do in har.c and get/put each char individually
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16:03:07 <zzo38> Yes, that is what I always do when dealing with external files/protocols though.
16:04:17 <gamemanj> I really did not know this was a thing in C. "['0'...'9']=1"
16:04:26 <zzo38> I think that is a GNU extension
16:04:52 <zzo38> (Note that not only gcc but also clang supports GNU extensions, so you will be able to use clang too if you want to)
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16:51:26 <izabera> #if __GNUC__ && ! __clang__
16:51:28 <izabera> #define UNUSED(x) do { __auto_type __unused __attribute__((unused)) = x; } while (0)
16:51:30 <izabera> #else
16:51:32 <izabera> #define UNUSED(x) (void) x
16:51:34 <izabera> #endif
16:51:36 <izabera> how is this?
16:52:10 <izabera> maybe with (x) instead of x
16:53:25 <izabera> it's a workaround for gcc that still warns me that i'm not using stuff
17:00:43 <zzo38> I don't know, I just use the -W to select which warnings I want
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17:06:11 <zzo38> gamemanj: If you use fread/fwrite directly on some struct buffer should be OK if it contains no pointers and the file is used on the same computer; some of my programs do that but only when the file is not intended to be portable to other computers.
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17:17:03 <wob_jonas> `? link
17:17:05 <wob_jonas> `? hyperlink
17:17:41 <HackEgo> hyperlink? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:17:41 <HackEgo> link? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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17:23:57 <wob_jonas> `? overworld
17:23:59 <HackEgo> overworld? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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17:30:37 <wob_jonas> `learn The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games.
17:30:53 <HackEgo> Learned 'overworld': The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games.
17:31:43 <zgrep> Ah, yes, hydraz is here. Makes sense.
17:33:34 <wob_jonas> By the way, watch the Super Amazing Wagon Adventure video from this SGDQ, the commentary makes it very hilarious.
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18:26:18 <int-e> b_jonas: what did you do?!
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18:41:18 <gamemanj> "K-Lined"? ...
18:41:20 <gamemanj> that sounds bad
18:43:14 <Hoolootwo> K-lining is a (semi-?) permanent server ban, so yeah pretty bad
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19:01:26 <gamemanj> luckily the "real" b_jonas is still alive...
19:01:27 <gamemanj> right?
19:04:28 <int-e> it's probably not his fault anyway... the wob version is using some web client.
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19:39:08 <hydraz> zgrep: problem with that?
19:39:22 <zgrep> hydraz: No, it's just that if you weren't here, I was going to point you in this direction. :P
19:40:05 <hydraz> oh hehe
19:47:17 <Phantom__Hoover> <Hoolootwo> K-lining is a (semi-?) permanent server ban, so yeah pretty bad
19:47:26 <Phantom__Hoover> i think it's a server ban but not a network ban?
19:47:55 <Hoolootwo> uh yeah, that's right
19:47:58 <Hoolootwo> oops
19:55:39 <alercah> on freenode they're the same
20:01:33 <\oren\> maybe the web client is a problem
20:06:51 <alercah> yeah
20:06:59 <alercah> freenode doesn't like web clients other than its own
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21:44:30 <Taneb> Ugh
21:44:34 <alercah> ugh
21:44:37 <Taneb> I'm feeling like I'm a not very good programmer today
21:44:47 <alercah> only today?
21:44:57 <Taneb> Well, I didn't think about it yesterday
21:48:56 <Taneb> alercah, "today" was attached to "feeling" rather than to the second "I'm", I guess
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21:51:14 <shachaf> Why?
21:54:49 <Taneb> shachaf, I looked at job adverts
21:55:00 <Taneb> And they all seem to require skills I don't have anything near
21:55:03 <shachaf> Oh, job adverts are scow.
21:55:09 <shachaf> What sorts of skills?
21:55:24 <Taneb> Being able to program in Java, for one
21:55:41 <shachaf> Oh, well, don't take those jobs, because Java is scow.
21:55:55 <shachaf> But also you could probably learn Java pretty easily.
21:56:03 <Taneb> I guess
21:56:15 <Taneb> Also I have difficulty comprehending large systems
21:56:39 <shachaf> That's an important skill for professional programmers, I guess.
21:56:46 <shachaf> But it usually takes a while as far as I know.
21:57:31 <Taneb> Also I have no idea what I'm going to be doing, like, from this time next year
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21:57:42 <MigdaliaDufrane6> KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 355, in track_join)
21:57:45 <shachaf> me neither hth
21:58:23 <shachaf> Taneb: have you considered moving to california
21:58:43 <int-e> "Sopel is a simple, easy-to-use, open-source IRC utility bot" hmm.
21:59:01 <Taneb> shachaf, is there opportunity for a funded PhD placement in functional programming, category theory, or group theory in California?
21:59:19 <shachaf> hmm, probably
22:00:32 <shachaf> for example at stanford people are doing some things
22:01:01 <Taneb> I seem to recall hearing that PhDs in the US take a lot longer than PhDs everywhere else
22:01:07 <Taneb> But I'm not sure if that's true or not
22:01:28 <shachaf> I think undergraduate degrees take longer.
22:01:31 <shachaf> I don't know about PhDs.
22:01:43 <Taneb> (here they generally take about three years)
22:01:45 <shachaf> What PhDs require you to be able to program in Java?
22:01:52 <Taneb> Java PhDs
22:02:02 <shachaf> Is there such a thing?
22:02:13 <Taneb> Some of the ones this uni does, actually
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22:02:22 <MigdaliaDufrane6> KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 360, in track_join)
22:02:22 <Taneb> There's a research group into Enterprise programming
22:03:14 <int-e> Houston, we have a *broken* unidentified Python IRC bot.
22:03:27 <shachaf> Is that a Star Trek thing?
22:03:34 <Taneb> shachaf, alas, no
22:04:03 <shachaf> HMS Enterprise
22:04:05 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise
22:04:08 <shachaf> so many Enterprises
22:04:11 <MigdaliaDufrane6> [WIKIPEDIA] HMS Enterprise | "Fifteen ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Enterprise (or HMS Enterprize) while another was planned:HMS Enterprise (1705) was a 24-gun sixth rate, previously the French frigate L'Entreprise, captured in May 1705. She was wrecked in October 1707.HMS Enterprise (1709) was a 44-gun fifth rate..."
22:04:18 <shachaf> and even some Enterprizes
22:04:20 <gamemanj> well at least it's trying to be useful
22:04:30 <shachaf> MigdaliaDufrane6: please don't do that twh
22:04:45 <gamemanj> "Sopel"
22:04:54 <gamemanj> ...that's the name of the site-package
22:04:57 <int-e> it's a bot.
22:05:20 <int-e> cf. https://sopel.chat/
22:05:32 <shachaf> cf. /whois
22:05:48 <int-e> that would've been too easy.
22:06:01 <int-e> it's much more fun to google the python package name.
22:06:33 <int-e> hmm, but it doesn't do https? http://sopel.chat/
22:06:52 <shachaf> Taneb: do you recommend getting a phd
22:07:15 <Taneb> shachaf, I haven't tried it yet
22:07:17 <Taneb> But I mean to
22:07:26 <Taneb> It's not for everyone, I'm aware of that
22:07:33 <shachaf> any other kinds of degrees that you'd recommend?
22:07:53 <Taneb> Integrated Masters are pretty neat
22:08:19 <shachaf> maybe you should go work with fizzie in london
22:08:41 <Taneb> That could work, maybe
22:08:51 <Taneb> But it's personal policy to not live in London
22:09:07 <shachaf> Why?
22:09:18 <Taneb> The air pollution gets to me
22:09:27 <shachaf> London has air pollution?
22:09:48 <shachaf> `? tanebventions: math
22:10:02 <zzo38> Doesn't everything have air pollution these days?
22:10:05 <HackEgo> Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms.
22:10:09 <Taneb> It did when I went back in like 2005 or so
22:10:16 <Taneb> I got a bit ill from it
22:10:52 <shachaf> `slwd tanebventions: math//s/ p/the Hodge star operator, p/
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22:10:57 <Taneb> Pointless topology: Alexander Armstrong and Richard Osman are homeomorphic
22:10:58 <HackEgo> wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma,the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms.
22:11:05 <shachaf> curses
22:11:21 <shachaf> `slwd tanebventions: math//s/,t/, t/
22:11:24 <HackEgo> wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms.
22:11:39 <shachaf> You have a lot of personal policies not to live in places.
22:11:46 <shachaf> Where do your policies permit you to live?
22:11:52 <Taneb> Most of Europe
22:12:05 <Taneb> Canada, certain parts of Australia, New Zealand
22:12:08 <shachaf> Vancouver, BC?
22:12:16 <Taneb> I believe that is in Canada, so yes
22:12:24 <shachaf> Oh, anywhere in Canada?
22:12:27 <shachaf> Excellent.
22:12:30 <shachaf> How about Greenland?
22:12:35 <Taneb> No
22:14:16 <shachaf> Oh, you should move to Toronto.
22:14:45 <Taneb> There's an idea!
22:14:50 <Taneb> I could go to York University
22:15:58 <shachaf> Maybe start a new new York Haskell Compiler project.
22:16:09 <alercah> Taneb: come to UW!
22:16:43 <Taneb> alercah, which UW
22:16:45 <shachaf> Yes, the University of Washington is good.
22:16:47 <Taneb> There's a whole bunch
22:16:53 <shachaf> But Taneb has a personal policy not to live in Washington.
22:17:00 <Taneb> shachaf, I do
22:17:01 <Taneb> ?
22:17:03 <alercah> Taneb: university of waterloo
22:17:10 <Taneb> The list I sent wasn't exhaustive
22:17:11 <shachaf> Taneb: Well, it's in the US.
22:17:27 <Taneb> No it isn't, Washington is near-ish Newcastle
22:17:58 <Taneb> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Washington/@54.9033022,-1.5531291,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x487e64c8cbe0fc97:0xa8135c37990656ba!8m2!3d54.897432!4d-1.517366
22:18:00 <Taneb> See
22:18:04 <shachaf> Well, Newcastle is inside Washington: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle,_Washington
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22:18:44 <Taneb> alercah, I mention York University because I am currently sat here in the University of York
22:19:27 <Taneb> Which are two very different places
22:19:28 <shachaf> Taneb: I think your Washington isn't named after George Washington.
22:19:41 <Taneb> shachaf, I think your George Washington is named after Washington
22:19:59 <shachaf> Named after due to being a descendant?
22:20:16 <alercah> Taneb: ahh
22:20:28 <shachaf> I thought the University of York would be much older.
22:20:39 <Taneb> shachaf, surprisingly, it's like 4 years younger!
22:20:46 <shachaf> I was going to say something about how it should be called the University of Yore.
22:20:49 <shachaf> But no.
22:20:53 <Taneb> University of Young
22:21:02 <shachaf> Apparently there are young universities in the UK.
22:21:10 <Taneb> Yeah, like Warwick
22:21:39 <Taneb> I think every person in this channel who is a student at a UK university, the university was founded in the 1960s
22:21:42 <shachaf> Taneb: I recommend moving to the Washington, the state.
22:21:55 <shachaf> I lived there myself for a number of years.
22:23:31 <shachaf> Oops.
22:23:35 <shachaf> Extra article.
22:23:42 <shachaf> Washington has some advantages over California.
22:23:47 <shachaf> For example, it has a lot more water.
22:23:51 <shachaf> And there's no state income tax.
22:24:22 <shachaf> @google california income tax brackets
22:24:23 <lambdabot> https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator
22:24:37 <shachaf> scow
22:24:40 <shachaf> @google california state income tax brackets
22:24:42 <lambdabot> http://www.tax-brackets.org/californiataxtable
22:24:42 <lambdabot> Title: California Income Tax Brackets 2016
22:24:48 <impomatic_> @google corewar
22:24:48 <lambdabot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War
22:25:01 <Taneb> Someone I lived with last year lived in California for a year
22:25:11 <impomatic_> Pfffft... still not #1 on Google :-(
22:27:05 <Taneb> But come October I'm gonna start applying for PhDs in like a whole bunch of everywheres
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22:29:23 <Taneb> Ideally I'd get a funded place somewhere interesting in the UK, EEA, or AUNZ, or Australia or New Zealand
22:29:26 <Taneb> So I won't need to get a visa
22:29:51 <shachaf> What if it was in the US and you got a student visa?
22:30:09 <Taneb> shachaf, that would be almost as good
22:30:35 <Taneb> Does a student visa come with universal healthcare
22:31:09 <shachaf> No, I think students often get healthcare from the university they attend.
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22:31:45 <Taneb> That would be convenient if true
22:32:20 <\oren\> Coup in turkey: Erdogan addresses the nation via skype on a phone held up to the news camera
22:32:37 <\oren\> Very presidential
22:33:17 <Taneb> It seems a regime barely holding on
22:33:37 <\oren\> meanwhile the military says they have seized control and are fighting the turkish police in the streets
22:34:59 <\oren\> Sputnik news claims Erdogan is trying to get out of Turkey via ataturk airport
22:35:14 <izabera> are we happy or not for the coup in turkey?
22:35:28 <izabera> i just came home and know barely anything about it
22:35:52 <\oren\> Well... the military *claims* they are seizing control to protect human rights
22:36:08 <izabera> sounds good to me
22:36:23 <\oren\> And certainly a lot of people in Turkey and the rest of the world are tired of Erdogan's bullshit
22:37:53 <alercah> NBC's reporting that erdogan is requesting asylum from germany now
22:39:25 <Taneb> alercah, I'll definitely add UW to my list of places to think about
22:39:52 <alercah> Taneb: what area would you be looking to study?
22:40:36 <Taneb> alercah, Functional programming type things, ideally
22:40:42 <Taneb> Possibly category or group theory
22:40:44 <alercah> Taneb: hmm
22:40:52 <alercah> not sure UW's the best school for that honestly
22:40:58 <Taneb> It's a place I can apply to
22:41:02 <alercah> it is!
22:41:07 <Taneb> I aim to cast a wide net
22:41:10 <alercah> if you want algebra, try the pure math department
22:41:13 <alercah> not just CS
22:41:56 <Taneb> That's a good point
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22:51:15 <moon_> Anyone know a interpreter for underload that is in node.js? we (yes, there are 3 others working on it, with solace at the head of the project) are making a bundle of buildin interpreters for it
22:51:25 <moon_> ]oh
22:51:32 <moon_> i forgot to mention this is for hbot
22:51:33 <moon_> lol
22:51:45 <alercah> Taneb: anything type theory like is definitely more suited to PM at UW than to CS as well
23:04:51 <shachaf> @google pm uw
23:04:52 <lambdabot> https://www.pce.uw.edu/certificates/project-management
23:05:05 <shachaf> Taneb ought to get a PhD certificate in project management
23:12:42 <int-e> that sounds like a project... how would you manage it...
23:13:19 <int-e> oh, "Pure" Mathematics.
23:14:29 <int-e> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python
23:14:32 <MigdaliaDufrane6> [WIKIPEDIA] Python | "Python may refer to:..."
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23:15:42 <shachaf> MigdaliaDufrane6: go away
23:16:28 <\oren\> Turkish army are withdrawing from Iraq
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23:21:59 <izabera> who wrote this shitty bot?
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23:26:21 <\oren\> Python
23:27:10 <\oren\> MigdaliaDufrane6: who are you?
23:27:53 <int-e> and is it related to JenElizabeth8 ?
23:29:35 <shachaf> Is MigdaliaDufrane6 a big red dog?
23:33:15 <moon_> does underload have a proper way of inserting comments?
23:38:07 <impomatic_> You could use (comment)!
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00:21:12 <Akaibu> a bit off topic, but does anyone here know how to actually read the javascript cpu dumps you can gen from google chrome's devtools?
00:22:52 <shachaf> I didn't even know you could get them.
00:43:13 <quintopia> impomatic_!
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01:12:37 <izabera> why do people write stuff like this? auto main () -> int { ... }
01:13:04 <alercah> izabera: do you really want to know?
01:13:12 <izabera> yes?
01:13:46 <izabera> my current guess is that it makes code look more c++ish
01:14:40 <alercah> you know how bad parsing C++ is, right?
01:14:50 <izabera> i've heard of it
01:15:01 <shachaf> It's more regular.
01:15:01 <izabera> never actually tried to write a parser
01:15:12 <alercah> the problem comes back to C actually
01:15:18 <alercah> but C++'s various features just make it way worse
01:15:32 <alercah> e.g. i * foo;
01:15:37 <alercah> is that a declaration or an expression?
01:15:45 <shachaf> Yes.
01:15:52 <alercah> you can only correctly determine by knowing whether i is a type name or note
01:15:53 <alercah> *not
01:16:19 <alercah> the complexities of C++'s template system mean that in order to determine whether something is a type or not, you need to be able to resolve templates and overloading
01:17:07 <izabera> ok... so... why not write int main () { ... } ?
01:17:26 <alercah> now, in templates, you often want to write a type that depends on the templated types
01:17:31 <alercah> e.g. operator + (T a, T b)
01:17:42 <alercah> you might want this to return a + b
01:17:57 <alercah> but you can't just write decltype(a + b) as the return type
01:18:24 <alercah> you used to have to do a bunch of crazy template gymnastics
01:18:31 <alercah> that involved making fake values of types
01:19:18 <alercah> to solve this at the language level, they added late-specified return types
01:19:28 <alercah> and they have the weird syntax they do because they wanted consistency with lambdas
01:19:42 <alercah> but some people also want it to be a uniform one-size-fits all syntax
01:19:47 <alercah> so that's why they declare functions using that as well
01:22:23 <izabera> but you can't write auto f () -> void { ... }
01:22:33 <shachaf> What?
01:22:34 <shachaf> scow
01:23:43 <alercah> izabera: you can't?
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01:23:59 <shachaf> Wait, yes you can.
01:24:53 <Sgeo> Elixir's Access.all violates lens laws :(
01:25:02 <izabera> i assumed you can't because e.g. in this snippet http://stackoverflow.com/a/38398485/2815203 they declare two functions with auto f (...) -> type and a void function with the old syntax
01:25:22 <izabera> and your point was that they do it for consistency
01:25:29 <izabera> but that looks inconsistent to me
01:26:53 <Sgeo> iex(29)> [[{0, 1}]] |> get_in [Access.all, Access.all, Access.elem(0)]
01:26:54 <Sgeo> [[0]]
01:27:05 <alercah> don't make me pull out the standard
01:27:30 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa, referral link
01:27:35 <shachaf> i ain't clicking that
01:28:14 <izabera> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38393694/how-to-generate-nested-loops-at-compile-time second answer here
01:28:55 <shachaf> I don't know what that's doing so I can't tell whether it violates any laws.
01:30:29 <Sgeo> [[{0, 1}]] is in Haskell terms [[(0, 1)]]
01:30:41 <Sgeo> get_in is a function for using Elixir's lens-like things
01:30:58 <Sgeo> Access.all targets all elements of a list. Access.elem(0) targets element 0 of a tuple
01:31:01 <alercah> izabera: that's just inconsistent usage
01:31:06 <izabera> ok
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04:24:49 <adu> thank you chan serv
04:24:58 <adu> you're so good to me
04:34:53 <Sgeo> https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/free-pokemon.htm
04:35:04 <Sgeo> Isn't this exactly against what net neutrality is supposed to be for?
04:50:19 <FreeFull> Yeah
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06:27:19 <Sgeo> If the essence of strength is sneaking stuff across composition, what is the essence of choice?
06:29:34 <shachaf> sneaking mposition across costuff
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06:45:48 <izabera> i need help with pipes
06:45:57 <izabera> https://arin.ga/RbnWnM/raw this works at least on linux
06:46:14 <izabera> i can send 256mb in a single write, and get the data back in a single read
06:46:47 <izabera> is linux is being clever and it's super unportable?
06:47:07 <izabera> is linux being*...
06:49:38 <shachaf> What's the problem?
06:50:12 <izabera> i was expecting to be bounded by the pipe buffer size
06:50:23 <shachaf> I don't expect that it's atomic.
06:50:34 <izabera> ok
06:50:38 <izabera> good point
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07:07:20 <pikhq> izabera: This is Linux being nice is all. PIPE_BUF is the amount that's guaranteed to be atomic, not the maximum read or write size.
07:07:42 <pikhq> Linux is permitted to, and apparently is in this case, letting you work on significantly more data.
07:12:16 <fizzie> // comments on the same line as a #define unnerve me.
07:12:26 <fizzie> Logically, I know that comments are removed in translation phase 3, but it doesn't help with the feeling.
07:14:15 <shachaf> don't let it faze you
07:14:39 <fizzie> Also, POSIX on pipes: "A write request for more than {PIPE_BUF} bytes shall cause one of the following: When at least one byte can be written, transfer what it can and return the number of bytes written. When all data previously written to the pipe is read, it shall transfer at least {PIPE_BUF} bytes."
07:15:10 <fizzie> So I think izabera's program really ought to check what the write/read calls return.
07:15:31 <fizzie> Oh, I guess it does the memcmp. Well, still.
07:15:33 <shachaf> That's true for most programs that issue write/read calls.
07:15:35 <pikhq> I didn't look at the program. Yes, it really should.
07:16:14 <izabera> it was a quick poc
07:16:52 <pikhq> But yes, PIPE_BUF is a guaranteed minimum that will be transfered, not a maximum.
07:17:54 <izabera> great, then i'm using this to implement dd
07:17:55 <pikhq> A magical multi-exabyte pipe buffer would be a valid implementation even without PIPE_BUF matching.
07:18:02 <izabera> dealing with ibs != obs is annoying
07:18:29 <pikhq> I dunno if that'll work correctly.
07:18:41 <pikhq> dd... is kinda defined pretty precisely in POSIX.
07:18:56 <shachaf> have you considered that unix is scow
07:19:24 <pikhq> shachaf: Yeah, but all other popular OSes aren't even scows.
07:19:33 <izabera> what makes you think it wouldn't?
07:19:35 <izabera> it won't*
07:19:39 <shachaf> everything popular is bad
07:19:59 <pikhq> izabera: The kernel is perfectly permitted to restrict you to just PIPE_BUF buffers.
07:20:43 <izabera> kernel is being nice to me so it would be stupid not to use it
07:21:04 <pikhq> The kernel is being nice to you today. The kernel is within its rights to not be nice to you tomorrow.
07:21:32 <izabera> that'd be a pretty serious regression
07:21:44 <pikhq> No it wouldn't. PIPE_BUF is the interface contract.
07:22:19 <izabera> ugh fine i'll do the buffering
07:22:26 <pikhq> If you write broken code against what you pretend is the interface instead of the documented interface, you get to keep both pieces.
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07:49:42 <izabera> is there a way to discard data without reading it from a non seekable device?
07:49:50 <izabera> device/fifo/whatever
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09:47:24 <hppavilion[1]> New self-screening pickup line: Give a girl (or boy) your number- your Erdős number
09:48:06 <hppavilion[1]> (Well, "new" in that I just learned it; Zack Weiner invented it in 2013 or something)
09:52:10 <Taneb> I haven't written any papers yet :(
09:52:53 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: Hurry up and do it with someone with a finite Erdos number
09:53:04 * hppavilion[1] rings the esobell
09:53:15 <hppavilion[1]> Does anyone in this channel have a finite Erdos number?
09:53:19 <Taneb> Yes
09:53:58 <Taneb> I know oerjan does, I'd be very surprised if none else does
09:54:00 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: Whom?
09:54:04 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
09:55:01 <Taneb> I *live* with someone with a finite Erdõs number
09:56:42 <Taneb> It's 6, but that's something
09:58:29 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: 7 is good for entry-level
09:59:28 <hppavilion[1]> I doubt anyone ever had an initial Erdos number of 1, except maybe 1 Ramanujan-level genius
09:59:52 <hppavilion[1]> Okay, is Ørjan Johansen a common name in Norway?
10:00:04 <Taneb> Yes
10:00:15 <hppavilion[1]> That makes sense
10:00:27 <Taneb> The English equivalent is something like George Johnson
10:00:34 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, yes
10:01:07 <hppavilion[1]> Because in a late-night would-be-but-am-not-actually-drunk session of trailing, I found someone- perhaps a minor celebrity, if only of a medical variety- named Ørjan Johansen
10:01:30 <hppavilion[1]> (or, well, Pål-Ørjan Johansen)
10:02:01 <hppavilion[1]> There's a quote from him talking about how he managed to quit smoking and drinking
10:02:17 <hppavilion[1]> By starting MDMA and psychedelics
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10:05:52 <Taneb> Been a while since I've had much in the way of alcohol
10:06:02 <Taneb> Wine with dinner when I've been on holiday
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10:28:24 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: Well-known in here, of course.
10:28:37 <shachaf> `? ørjan
10:28:55 <HackEgo> Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
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10:41:11 <shachaf> Taneb: i recommend sticking with ethanol hth
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10:44:41 <Napejts> wtf is esoteric programming
10:47:13 <shachaf> `welcome Napejts
10:47:17 <HackEgo> Napejts: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
10:47:28 <Napejts> but how can i use this languages?
10:50:08 <int-e> I don't know, browse https://esolangs.org/ a bit until you find something that has a link to an implementation and appeals tou you, then try it out?
10:50:57 <Napejts> theny we are they languages without links?...
10:50:58 <Napejts> damn
10:51:01 <Napejts> then why
10:52:52 <int-e> They may still be interesting from a theoretical perspective... Also some languages are created by people who like writing examples and/or specifications and hope somebody else will implement them.
10:54:19 <Napejts> really nerds stuff...
10:55:50 <Napejts> thanks god its non-capitalistic
11:00:18 <Napejts> guys and gals. i can not decide to use unity or unreal engine?
11:00:22 <Napejts> i testes both...
11:00:59 <Napejts> they are almost the same.. except UE gives better graphics.. but less tutorials.. unity has a lot tutorials... but not so good graphic... and unreal has visual scripting called blueprint.... unity has only c#
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15:35:30 <boily> @metar CYQB
15:35:30 <lambdabot> CYQB 161400Z 06011KT 040V110 30SM FEW020 SCT070 SCT240 19/12 A3001 RMK CF1AC2CI1 SLP164 DENSITY ALT 600FT
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17:55:50 <quintopia> coily!
17:55:54 <quintopia> oh
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17:56:05 <quintopia> i'm blinde
17:57:19 <int-e> oh good, the python bot got k-lined.
17:57:39 <quintopia> hmm?
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18:00:39 <izabera> who's op here?
18:01:59 <ivancr72> hi
18:02:01 <izabera> someone who's often here should become op
18:02:23 <int-e> /quote chanserv access #esoteric list
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18:02:39 <izabera> /quote chanserv access #esoteric list
18:02:43 <izabera> nothing happened
18:03:17 <int-e> you should get notices (not privmsg) from chanserv
18:03:40 <int-e> they may not be very prominent. (I get them in the "server log" window in irssi)
18:04:13 <zzo38> It might not work because the correct command is "cs access #esoteric list"
18:04:21 <izabera> i was jk but you're not fun
18:05:09 <int-e> zzo38: "chanserv" as a raw command definitely works
18:07:02 <int-e> izabera: I think there was no way to tell that that was supposed to be a joke.
18:07:46 <zzo38> Yes that works too, although "cs" is also valid
18:07:48 <izabera> you're not in the right mindset
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18:29:18 <oerjan> did someone want an op
18:29:27 <oerjan> @messages-loud
18:29:27 <lambdabot> hppavilion[1] said 1d 6h 9m 52s ago: I'm free!
18:30:01 <oerjan> izabera: we have 3 active ops, the problem might be that we're all in the timezone.
18:30:34 <oerjan> alas all the american ops left us.
18:31:02 <oerjan> (of course my timezone is ridiculously messed up so _shouldn't_ count anyway.)
18:32:50 <oerjan> *in the same timezone
18:33:10 <oerjan> someone's stealing my words
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18:37:29 <oerjan> <Taneb> The English equivalent is something like George Johnson <-- i think "George" is a bit too common for comparison. my last name is considerably more common (as in 2nd place in norway) than the first (although neither is rare.)
18:37:45 <oerjan> of course you're right if you're thinking cognates.
18:38:04 <int-e> oerjan: are you suggesting that there's more than one time zone?
18:38:27 <int-e> next you'll tell us that Earth is not a disc but approximately spherical...
18:38:51 <oerjan> *sigh* it's that time of day when the sun shines straight onto my sofa... fortunately that ends in about seven minutes.
18:39:20 <oerjan> int-e: there are more timezones in heaven and in earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy
18:39:32 <int-e> ouch
18:39:35 * oerjan now check quotes
18:40:09 <oerjan> pretty close.
18:41:01 <int-e> "'«‹›»'"
18:41:04 <oerjan> otoh the spammer was about this time of day, wasn't e.
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18:42:28 <int-e> ‷‶‵′″‴ <-- beautiful (but not quotes)
18:42:38 <oerjan> so perhaps it was just bad luck. although i'm not _usually_ here at that time. although that day i was away for a different reason than usual.
18:43:01 <oerjan> int-e: not that kind of quote.
18:44:18 <int-e> It's so sad, Unicode is devoid of any quintuple stuff.
18:44:46 <int-e> `unidecode ⁗
18:45:03 <int-e> `wisdom
18:45:16 <HackEgo> ​[U+2057 QUADRUPLE PRIME]
18:45:16 <HackEgo> mroman_//mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW)
18:45:37 <myname> wat
18:45:45 <oerjan> that's ridiculous, everyone knows quadruples are not primes
18:46:24 <gamemanj> it's not a *4 prime, it's a prime so awesome they had to mention it 4 times
18:46:26 <oerjan> myname: wat wat?
18:46:46 <myname> why is that nsfw?
18:47:16 <oerjan> `howg mroman_
18:47:29 <HackEgo> ​<mroman> learn_append mroman_ (NSFW) \ <mroman_> learn mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure.
18:47:37 <alercah> `quote
18:47:40 <HackEgo> 235) <oklopol> actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia
18:47:46 <oerjan> myname: ask mroman hth
18:48:03 <oerjan> ...
18:53:10 <oerjan> `? ørjan
18:53:13 <HackEgo> Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
18:53:28 <int-e> oerjan, http://www.bash.org/?311375
18:54:45 <int-e> myname: I'm afraid it's probably based on a graphic interpretation of the underscore.
19:06:48 <oerjan> <int-e> (here we use "kilo" for "kilogram" when shopping... so why not do the same for decagrams (a unit, that fortunately, isn't fashionable here)) <-- heh in norway we use(d) kilo, and also hekto, but not deka.
19:07:50 <oerjan> somehow deka isn't really used as a prefix either.
19:08:39 <oerjan> desi is, though, with liter.
19:23:09 <int-e> hmm I'm too stupid for this "Snakebird" game.
19:23:20 <shachaf> int-e: snakebird is too good
19:23:43 <shachaf> It has some hard puzzles.
19:25:34 <int-e> I mean I'm not failing completely... but 45 or so solved levels the remaining one are really quite hard...
19:26:12 <shachaf> How many levels are there?
19:27:19 <int-e> 51 I can predict (45 numbered ones, and 6 in the clouds...)
19:28:30 <int-e> wait, they count from zero, so 52. and there might be another one in the center... or many other ones on the surrounding islands. I don't know :)
19:28:55 <shachaf> int-e: Did you play Stephen's Sausage Roll?
19:29:39 <int-e> nope
19:30:03 <shachaf> It is also a puzzle game with difficult puzzles.
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19:34:40 <tromp> i like robozzle
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19:50:47 <Sgeo> tromp, there's work on a JS version
20:11:56 <int-e> `? tg
20:12:08 <HackEgo> TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not.
20:12:39 <int-e> `learn_append tg This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
20:12:46 <HackEgo> Learned 'tg': TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
20:12:59 <oerjan> int-e: wat.
20:13:05 <shachaf> int-e: are you going to roll any sausages
20:13:08 <shachaf> oerjan: read it again hth
20:13:44 <int-e> shachaf: not any time soon, I believe
20:16:33 <int-e> hmm.
20:16:34 <int-e> `revert
20:16:52 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
20:16:53 <int-e> `le/rn tgtgtgtg/This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
20:16:57 <HackEgo> Learned «tgtgtgtg»
20:23:10 <int-e> `? tc
20:23:16 <HackEgo> tc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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20:23:27 <int-e> hmm. perhaps something with total control?
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20:37:37 <oerjan> hm oh maybe there was a new spammer
20:38:47 <oerjan> the other two ops tend to take a bit of weekends off, me thinks.
20:39:59 <shachaf> the only solution is for fizzie to move to mountain view
20:40:16 <oerjan> clearly.
20:40:30 <shachaf> or san francisco
20:40:58 <int-e> you could lock down the channel during the night... hehe.
20:43:01 * oerjan grins evilly
20:45:25 <quintopia> has anyone ever written any procedurally generated techno music?
20:45:58 <int-e> the demo scene all way through the 80s and 90s, would be my guess.
20:46:45 <int-e> (probably not quite the way you want; I'm using the term "procedurally generated" in a fairly loose sense)
20:52:11 <\oren\> Do people in scandinavia pronounce Java as "Yava"?
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20:54:30 <oerjan> \oren\: by default, yes.
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20:54:56 <oerjan> and i think this is not a case where insisting on english pronunciation is likely.
20:55:33 <oerjan> especially since the island is already pronounced that way.
20:56:39 * oerjan notes that how the _a_s are pronounced will vary between scandinavian countries.
20:57:42 <oerjan> well, slighly anyway.
20:58:13 <oerjan> like, anywhere between en:far and en:bad
20:59:14 <oerjan> (iiuc, norwegian uses approximately the former, danish approximately the latter, and swedish one of each.)
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21:02:25 <\oren\> what about C++?
21:03:52 <oerjan> "se pluss pluss" in norwegian, anyway. like each character in order.
21:04:03 <quintopia> int-e: i suppose i mean "dynamic, adaptable, 'infinitely' novel procedural generation"
21:04:17 <\oren\> Ah, I was wondering if the C would differ
21:04:37 <\oren\> and the name of the +
21:04:51 <oerjan> nah. the vowels are different, though.
21:04:53 <\oren\> シープラスプラス
21:05:00 <quintopia> oerjan: can you record yourself reading the names of the top twenty most popular programming languages for science?
21:05:41 <oerjan> hm i may be slightly biased there: i have not actually _heard_ norwegians pronounce most of them, so i _could_ be wrong.
21:05:41 <quintopia> i would do it for you
21:06:06 <oerjan> (also, what are they?)
21:06:37 <quintopia> http://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html
21:06:52 <quintopia> top 18 is close enough
21:08:12 <oerjan> i have no idea how norwegians pronounce the # in C#.
21:09:09 <oerjan> (likely just using the english word.)
21:11:45 <quintopia> here i read them and you can just tell me where you would differ: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-0NVE9E8UJieVUxeXJaNnVpYk0/view?usp=sharing
21:13:33 <oerjan> i don't think describing it would do.
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21:21:07 <int-e> quintopia: more seriously, googling "procedurally generated music" turns up enough results that I'm pretty sure this has been tried, at least, perhaps successfully. and on a far less serious note(no pun intended), I thought all one needs for techno is a simple while loop.
21:22:46 <oerjan> quintopia: https://clyp.it/zwo2wql3
21:23:36 <oerjan> many of those are somewhat guesswork.
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21:29:24 <oerjan> although i'm pretty sure i've heard many of them too. Perl, Matlab, Basic (maybe not with the visual), C, Javascript, Python and Java, at least.
21:29:57 <oerjan> oh and C++.
21:30:55 * oerjan thinks that selection pinpoints his age a bit :P
21:32:30 <shachaf> What's the one at 0:22 after Visual Basic?
21:33:20 <shachaf> Oh, I see.
21:33:26 <shachaf> I didn't see quintopia's recording.
21:34:13 <oerjan> shachaf: VBA, which i'm pretty sure i've never heard a norwegian say, so it's just the letters in order.
21:34:45 <shachaf> quintopia's recording is very General American.
21:34:53 <oerjan> obviously.
21:35:01 <shachaf> I can't GA that much.
21:35:18 <oerjan> you can GH, i'm sure
21:35:44 <shachaf> Not really.
21:35:50 <oerjan> or have you reached the point where you have a noticeable accent in both languages
21:35:51 <shachaf> I have a noticeable accent in every language.
21:36:16 <oerjan> figures.
21:36:44 <shachaf> Also I don't think GH is a thing.
21:37:03 <oerjan> IH then.
21:41:20 <shachaf> Also you can tell that I don't know how to pronoucne things because I'd pronounce "Delphi" like oerjan rather than like quintopia.
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21:42:45 <shachaf> oerjan's pronunciation is more Norwegian than I thought. I'll have to rethink my pun strategy.
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21:43:30 <oerjan> indeed it is. it's how we pronounce the greek place name.
21:43:51 <oerjan> so i assume the PL would be the same.
21:44:33 <oerjan> also, what does this have to do with your pun strategy
21:44:39 <shachaf> Presumably it's spelled ∇ɸ
21:44:48 <shachaf> Er.
21:44:50 <oerjan> i don't think so.
21:44:56 <shachaf> ∇φ
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21:45:38 <oerjan> Δελφοί hth
21:45:42 <\oren\> I thoght ∇ was pronounced "nabla"?
21:45:50 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del
21:46:12 <quintopia> oerjan: the one that surprised me the most was the "H" in "PHP"
21:46:24 <oerjan> \oren\: indeed. iirc there's a student organization in Oslo by that name.
21:46:29 <shachaf> The two that I couldn't figure out initially were Python and VBA.
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21:46:38 <oerjan> quintopia: well that's also just the letters in order.
21:46:55 <quintopia> oerjan: i just didn't know that was the norwegian way to say H
21:46:59 <oerjan> right
21:47:03 <shachaf> That reminds me that I should learn differential geometry.
21:47:55 <\oren\> I encountered nabla when I took Analysis II and larned some stuff about manifolds
21:49:27 <quintopia> shachaf: yeah the pronouncing "th" as /t/ rather than /þ/ threw me as well
21:49:51 <shachaf> Well, that's pretty common in transliterating English words to other languages.
21:49:51 <quintopia> also i started trying to learn diffgeom once.
21:50:23 <quintopia> shachaf: yes but "other languages" wouldn't normally include "nordic languages" in my mind hth
21:50:46 <\oren\> nabla f is the gradient of a scalar field f, nabla dot v is the divergence of a vector field v, and nabla cross v is the curl of the vecotr field
21:51:41 <\oren\> and there's some rule where a nabla of another nabla gives zero
21:51:42 <shachaf> quintopia: your preconceptions about nordic languages are a thorn in your side hth
21:52:31 <quintopia> shachaf: i'd call them "conceptions" since i've actually been to all those countries and had some luck in translating the signs hth
21:52:35 <shachaf> \oren\: Pft. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/10574/how-do-i-make-the-conceptual-transition-from-multivariable-calculus-to-different makes me want to skip over that whole thing.
21:52:51 <shachaf> quintopia: i just wanted to make a pun hth
21:53:20 <quintopia> shachaf: these days i just assume you work a pun into every message, even when you're being totally serious hth
21:53:25 <oerjan> quintopia: https://clyp.it/uwzhgvhr btw it's in my dialect, the "standard" pronunciation has more closed e's in many letters.
21:53:33 <oerjan> (but not in e itself)
21:54:51 <quintopia> oerjan: sounds very...spanish-like. except, again, the H. still have no idea on that.
21:55:20 <oerjan> quintopia: norwegian has no /þ/ so that's a given, sometimes even when pronouncing things loosely "as english".
21:56:35 <oerjan> quintopia: the H is explained by that at some point in norwegian history, long a (á) turned into å.
21:57:09 <oerjan> several other vowels are also sort of "rotated" a bit.
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21:59:06 <oerjan> shachaf: en:thorn = no:torne so it checks out :P
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21:59:43 <oerjan> or wait, maybe without the e. hm that might vary.
22:03:08 <oerjan> the cognates to english th tend to have t or d, or sometimes nothing at the end of syllables (which may or may not be written as a d)
22:06:57 <oerjan> thou -> du, three -> tre, there -> der, bath -> bad, and i'm having trouble thinking of a silent one that actually has an english cognate...
22:08:46 <oerjan> old norse had /þ/ or /ð/ there, of course.
22:19:29 <oerjan> @tell moon_ <moon_> Anyone know a interpreter for underload that is in node.js? <-- i think there's a JS one linked from the esolang page, at least.
22:19:29 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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01:22:16 <izabera> `` printf %s {a..z} | dd conv=swab,unblock,ucase cbs=9 status=none
01:22:39 <HackEgo> dd: invalid status flag: `none' \ Try `dd --help' for more information.
01:22:48 <izabera> `` printf %s {a..z} | dd conv=swab,unblock,ucase cbs=9 2>/dev/null
01:22:51 <HackEgo> BADCFEHGJ \ ILKNMPORQ \ TSVUXWZY
01:22:59 <izabera> this thing is posix
01:23:44 <izabera> i have no idea why dd does this
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02:21:45 <shachaf> `? lie
02:21:58 <HackEgo> Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups.
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03:36:14 <shachaf> `? fizzie
03:36:27 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg
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03:39:10 <hppavilion[1]> Elections in Alaska feel like a sham
03:39:36 <hppavilion[1]> Because the numbers here usually go in after the winner has been mathematically selected
03:43:36 <zzo38> I have made a new VM called TAVERN (it was originally implemented in BASIC, but now it is in C and I wrote the compiler too), and I have gotten this program to compile and run: http://sprunge.us/CieM
03:44:58 <zzo38> All memory cells contain signed 16-bit numbers (this is because it was originally with BASIC).
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10:04:56 <shachaf> int-e: Ah, the type you used is also used here: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mhe/papers/ordinals/ordinals.html
10:05:14 <shachaf> "If you want to get really high, then you should study lenses"
10:05:57 <int-e> that sentence has a really fun interpretation...
10:08:12 <int-e> But yeah I would've been surprised if that particular type was new... it's kind of natural. (In fact I was inspired by an Isabelle theory for (countable) ordinal numbers, but I expected the idea to be much older than that.)
10:10:06 <int-e> and yay, a broken link... publishiing on the web is a bit like writing something on paper and nailing it to a tree.
10:11:51 <int-e> (now if I had a way to build hyperlinks into that picture, hmm...)
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10:12:40 <int-e> (ideally a more natural one than "further information can be found on the third birch to the left")
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10:56:00 <int-e> good moerjning!
10:56:34 <oerjan> good mornint-e!
10:57:13 <shachaf> aren't y'all chipper
10:57:15 <shachaf> @time oerjan
10:57:15 <lambdabot> Local time for oerjan is Sun Jul 17 11:57:15 2016
10:57:21 <shachaf> suspicious
10:57:23 <gamemanj> Good moerjan.
10:57:50 <gamemanj> Good mornshachafing.
10:58:09 <gamemanj> Good int-ening.
10:58:11 <int-e> hey why does lambdabot repeat the timestamp of its own message... creepy...
10:58:43 <gamemanj> Eh, you haven't even heard the beginning of the creepy things lambdabot can do...
10:58:51 <shachaf> int-e: ?
10:59:02 <int-e> shachaf: "11:57:15 <lambdabot> Local time for oerjan is Sun Jul 17 11:57:15 2016"
10:59:17 <int-e> Also I may be in a slightly silly mood... nothing unusual of course.
11:00:04 <myname> interesting, it was :17 here
11:00:22 <int-e> It just struck me that it would be very unlikely if those were random numbers.
11:00:45 <int-e> WTF,
11:00:46 <shachaf> @time lambdabot
11:00:46 <lambdabot> I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time?
11:00:50 <shachaf> yes
11:00:58 <int-e> gamemanj: is CTCP script() a thing?!
11:01:01 <gamemanj> No
11:01:06 <gamemanj> if it was that would be a terrible idea
11:01:26 <int-e> gamemanj: phew. It's just terrible enough that somebody might actually implement it :P
11:01:39 <gamemanj> Don't worry, I'm sure I could ask someone to make a HexChat plugin.
11:01:40 <shachaf> lambdabot: you ought to add me to your admin list twh
11:02:05 <gamemanj> but, yeah, if it was implemented, lambdabot could do evil stuff
11:02:12 <gamemanj> like show message boxes and be creepy with them
11:02:28 <lambdabot> I'm not sentient, you know?!
11:02:32 <gamemanj> ...
11:03:29 <shachaf> oerjan would probably make lambdabot show massage boxes
11:03:36 <shachaf> Or message bowls
11:04:53 <oerjan> hydra in 275 cuts
11:05:11 <int-e> you're so lucky
11:05:47 <int-e> I also can't believe you're playing this more than once.
11:06:00 <int-e> well, scratch that, I can believe it but it strikes me as odd.
11:06:22 <shachaf> Have you seen oerjan's interactions with previous games?
11:06:23 <oerjan> gamemanjhi
11:07:00 <int-e> shachaf: simon tatham's puzzle page aside, no.
11:07:19 <shachaf> Well, I was mostly thinking of that. But I think there have been some others.
11:07:26 <shachaf> oerjan: oh, do you want to play snakebird
11:07:48 <int-e> I actually solved another level yesterday.
11:07:53 <shachaf> that game has the advantage of being finite
11:08:29 <oerjan> <int-e> I also can't believe you're playing this more than once. <-- well, when i get bored with something else...
11:08:54 <fizzie> What's "this"?
11:09:12 <int-e> oerjan: there's a subtext there actually... I have to prevent myself from doing the same.
11:09:28 <int-e> fizzie: "<oerjan> hydra in 275 cuts"
11:09:53 <fizzie> Yes, but that wasn't enough for me to determine what it was about.
11:09:56 <fizzie> No results found for "hydra in 275 cuts".
11:10:06 <shachaf> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
11:10:18 <fizzie> Thank U.
11:11:11 <int-e> http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/snakebird.png ... progress ... if anyone cares
11:11:39 <shachaf> That's pretty good.
11:12:17 <oerjan> shachaf: probably not.
11:12:34 <shachaf> Even with int-e's recommendation?
11:13:52 <shachaf> *** Error in `/home/shachaf/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Snakebird/Snakebird.x86': free(): invalid pointer: 0xf73177b0 ***
11:16:43 <int-e> hmm, that's inconvenient.
11:17:38 <shachaf> I solved the problem by running Windows Steam and Snakebird with WINE.
11:19:11 <shachaf> Oh, but it freezes everything when I try to make it full-screen.
11:19:25 <shachaf> I have to kill it from the tty.
11:19:37 <shachaf> Anyway you've gotten farther than I have.
11:20:04 <oerjan> sounds like an excellent game to stay away from, in so many ways.
11:20:35 <shachaf> No, it's pretty good.
11:20:41 <shachaf> I bet it's even better when you run Windows.
11:23:16 <int-e> I have a humble bundle non-steam version of the thing, which somehow works.
11:23:47 <shachaf> Oh, maybe I have that.
11:24:15 <shachaf> On their website they don't even link to it.
11:24:21 <shachaf> Oh, I guess it was in the recent bundle.
11:26:16 <shachaf> The advantage of Steam is that it'll synchronize your game state across computers.
11:26:41 <int-e> it's better for me if only one computer has the state
11:26:45 <shachaf> The disadvantage of Steam is that it's terrible DRM and in general pretty terrible software.
11:27:53 <shachaf> 14 looks like it ought to be pretty simple...
11:30:21 <int-e> I still remember that one.
11:30:46 <shachaf> Is it just me, or is it pretty odd that when you press R, the focus doesn't reset?
11:31:43 <int-e> hadn't noticed that before but yes, it's odd.
11:32:20 <shachaf> It messes me up all the time.
11:32:22 <shachaf> Oh, solved 14.
11:32:51 <shachaf> It was pretty much what I expected, but the maneuvering to switch the bird order was a bit complicated.
11:33:06 <int-e> As I recall it, 14 stumped me for a bit.
11:33:48 <int-e> It's one of the first level where pushing the other snakebirdthingy is really required.
11:35:03 <shachaf> In general I prefer the one-snake levels.
11:35:37 <shachaf> Maybe I should be doing these in order.
11:39:02 <shachaf> On the other hand there are a lot of interesting puzzles that involve the thing you mentioned.
11:45:29 <shachaf> Now 18 is exposed.
11:45:35 <shachaf> but instead of solving it I'll go to sleep.
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14:00:26 <izabera> who wants to try my amazing dd(1)!?
14:00:30 <izabera> it does almost all the things!
14:01:20 <izabera> in 250something lines of code!
14:02:25 <izabera> now i have to write the ebcdic thing but i don't wanna and i'm never gonna use it
14:18:31 <FireFly> Don't worry, that's a feature you don't need to reimplement
14:18:51 <FireFly> unless you decide to market your dd(1) to IBM
14:19:14 <izabera> but posix
14:19:29 <izabera> also it's 2 lines of code + tables
14:22:34 <FireFly> b-but EBCDIC
14:28:51 <izabera> i wanted to see what's the difference between conv=ibm and ebcdic so i wrote a bf program to print all the characters
14:28:54 <izabera> .+[.+]
14:29:06 <izabera> brainfuck is actually useful
15:02:13 <izabera> are the conversion tables in gnu dd gpl-copyrighted?
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15:30:11 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
15:30:11 <lambdabot> EGLL 171420Z AUTO 27015KT 9999 FEW040 26/16 Q1022 NOSIG
15:30:14 <fizzie> E2HOT
15:31:06 <fizzie> And the frog says it's going to be 31 on Tuesday.
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15:59:34 <feliks> izabera: where can one get your amazing dd?
15:59:44 <izabera> https://github.com/izabera/inutility
16:02:10 <izabera> dd + other things :3
16:03:21 <izabera> still missing conv=swab/block/ublock/sync but the rest should be ok
16:03:40 <feliks> izabera: why all the tabs in the makefile?
16:03:57 <izabera> uh because makefiles need tabs?
16:04:09 <feliks> at the end too? Oo
16:04:10 <izabera> i believe
16:04:28 <izabera> at the end?
16:04:49 <izabera> there are no tabs at the end of the makefile
16:04:57 <feliks> before the \ you got ~1-5x \t
16:05:03 <izabera> that's for alignment
16:07:17 <feliks> you should try spaces for that
16:07:31 <feliks> is dd and the other stuff a code golf reimplementation? :)
16:09:03 <izabera> not too much actually
16:16:35 <zzo38> I look at Wikipedia article for dice, they show Asian and Western dice, it look like the Asian style may be more difficult to tamper by erasing some dots.
16:17:44 <zzo38> izabera: Where is the license information?
16:18:01 <izabera> still haven't picked one
16:18:06 <izabera> which one would you recommend?
16:18:24 <zzo38> Public domain is what I normally use.
16:18:27 <izabera> also who erases dots on dies?
16:20:01 <quintopia> izabera: people who want to beat cheating trolls at dice
16:20:16 <FireFly> Oh, that's why some dice have a big dot for 1
16:20:20 <zzo38> If the dots are not flat that also makes it more difficult of course. (Some dice do have flat dots though)
16:21:09 <izabera> but that makes the dice impossible to use after your turn
16:21:28 <quintopia> only do it to the other guy's dice
16:22:20 <quintopia> what about dice that use different colors of wood instead of paint
16:23:26 <izabera> wouldn't they just show that their dice is broken?
16:28:27 <zzo38> I was playing the Dungeons&Dragons game, I found some large dice inside of the ogre's house and found them to be loaded so that it always comes up 2 and 5, and later outside heard some other ogres (guards) talking about they think they are cheating at dice; they are. So if the dots are flat then that is what I can do to help, which is to erase some of the dots so that it comes up 2 and 1 instead.
16:29:06 <zzo38> Afterward, dice are turned so that the faces turned up still are 2 and 5, until they are thrown and then it is 2 and 1
16:29:31 <izabera> maybe you can draw 4 more dots on the original 1 face
16:30:13 <zzo38> No, what I was thinking of is the one loaded to be 2 is turned to 5, the other one is turned to 2
16:30:24 <zzo38> There is no need to add extra dots
16:32:16 <zzo38> Now, instead of always win, they are going to always lose.
16:34:04 <izabera> :(
16:34:11 <izabera> that's not fair :(
16:34:36 <FireFly> I think that was the idea, yes
16:35:15 <quintopia> izabera: turnabout is fair play, mate
16:35:51 <zzo38> It isn't supposed to be fair; it is supposed to be revenge.
16:36:07 <quintopia> revenge is always fair
16:36:45 <quintopia> as long as it isn't, like, "you stole my fountain pen, and I cut off your arms, so now we're even"
16:37:17 <izabera> it was a pretty fountain pen
16:37:38 <quintopia> "he stared at my girlfriend's ass, so i murdered him. fair play, bro."
16:39:42 <izabera> would stealing their fountain pen be an appropriate revenge if they stare at your girlfriend's ass?
16:43:28 <gamemanj> why exactly would staring be something that warrants theft of property?
16:50:34 <izabera> idk but at least they get to keep their arms?
16:57:17 <quintopia> it depends on how violated you and your girlfriend felt by the staring. possibly a fair retaliation would be a swift kick in the nads and nothing else...
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18:01:07 <zzo38> I thought of to make up a Magic: the Gathering card that does: Remove all +1/+1 counters from target permanent, and then put that many +0/+1 counters on that permanent and an equal number of +1/+0 counters on that permanent.
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18:16:32 <izabera> cool, there's a package on arch with all (most of?) the games by simon tatham
18:18:54 <izabera> oh nice, they can be downloaded from his site
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18:40:37 <zzo38> I don't know what color would this card be, or the mana cost or type, or possibly other abilities (such as cycling).
18:50:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:FOSCode]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48911 * Zzo38 * (+181) Created page with "Is the <b><linesToSkip></b> allowed to negative? If you want to make a loop then it should be allow --~~~~"
18:52:31 <zzo38> How many telephone numbers does Quickbooks have?
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19:25:12 <wob_jonas> The SGDQ 2016 videos are still amazing. There's some real gems in there.
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19:56:07 <tuxcrafting> @fizzie
19:56:07 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
19:56:14 <tuxcrafting> +fizzie
19:56:23 <tuxcrafting> fizzie plz halp
19:56:49 <tuxcrafting> the captcha dont work when trying to create a account on the wiki
19:58:10 <tuxcrafting> nobody here?
19:58:14 <tuxcrafting> :(
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19:58:39 <int-e> have some patience
19:58:42 <int-e> .........
19:59:36 <myname> he qwaited like 2 whole minutes!
20:00:23 <int-e> Yes, I know. That's almost the length of a song on radio. (For those who remember what radio is.)
20:01:07 <myname> i do, but length of songs are indeoendent of the medium
20:01:59 <int-e> it's easier to get a longer song on youtube than getting it played on the radio (but I guess TV uses the same guidelines)
20:02:31 <myname> well yeah, radio,usually doesn't play 12p hour livesets either
20:04:56 <fizzie> ...
20:05:01 <fizzie> I could've helped them.
20:05:04 <fizzie> I already helped one person.
20:05:12 <fizzie> But I was: too slow.
20:05:17 <myname> too bad
20:05:41 <myname> he would have to wait like 10 whole minutes
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23:12:04 <fizzie> I replaced the "impossible" CAPTCHA question with a new dynamic Befunge CAPTCHA. Let's see how long that works before it's again full of spam.
23:14:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Fizzie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48912&oldid=46312 * 82.68.182.45 * (+2) CAPTCHA test edit.
23:20:10 <Sgeo> I should probably learn Befunge
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00:32:20 <FireFly> It is a decent language for codegolf
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01:52:40 <izabera> http://spni.github.io/ ...
02:10:08 <FireFly> Might want to (NSFW) that
02:10:10 <FireFly> (I presume)
02:10:27 <izabera> oh yeah i forgot about it
02:10:38 <izabera> it's sfw for a while tho
02:11:31 <shachaf> you mean, other than the picture right on the front page when you click it
02:12:08 <izabera> come on you've seen worse
02:12:25 <FireFly> Sure, but I wouldn't want to open it at work
02:12:41 <izabera> would you open any link from this chan at work?
02:12:47 <FireFly> Yes?
02:12:56 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
02:12:59 <shachaf> did someone HireFly?
02:13:01 <FireFly> no
02:13:12 <FireFly> I'm just speaking hypothetically
02:13:27 <FireFly> One day, shachaf
02:13:30 <shachaf> SatireFly
02:13:42 <shachaf> I guess that was yesterday.
02:13:44 <FireFly> ...actually not
02:14:02 <izabera> your coworkers will see you on esoteric irc channels, on esoteric wiki pages about brainfucking etc
02:14:10 <izabera> your boss won't be amused
02:18:41 <\oren\> uh... wtf is that some sort of futanari strip poker game?
02:19:33 <\oren\> yeah, i'mma say that's not safe for anywhere
02:22:55 <\oren\> ok, so it's not futanari... still nsfw
02:23:09 <izabera> it's weird to find stuff like that on *.github.io
02:23:54 <\oren\> well people apparently are opensourcing their porn games
02:24:33 <shachaf> I suspect I don't want to look up the meaning of that word.
02:24:39 <izabera> opensourcing?
02:24:51 <izabera> it means to open the source so others can see it
02:26:18 <\oren\> shachaf: I learned it from 4chan when I was like 13, so yeah probably not.
02:26:42 <shachaf> how old were you when you learned the word "hanabi"
02:26:50 <\oren\> older
02:27:45 <\oren\> 4chan, corrupting the innocent since time immemorial
02:29:00 <shachaf> this channel is very hanabi at times
02:29:39 <\oren\> shachaf: uh... that doesn't make much sense. hanabi means "firework"
02:29:59 <shachaf> maybe in your dialect
02:30:06 <shachaf> it also means "quiet"
02:32:13 <\oren\> in what language?!?!?
02:32:22 <shachaf> english
02:32:46 <\oren\> WUT
02:35:11 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: what
02:35:35 <shachaf> i believe it's also the name of a french board game
02:38:10 <\oren\> sorry I'm not seeing any of that on the internet
02:38:35 <shachaf> obviously not
02:38:41 <shachaf> the internet is too mainstream
02:38:48 <shachaf> well, the french board game is pretty well-known
02:38:53 <\oren\> hanabi -> はなび -> 花火 -> flower fire -> fireworks
02:39:00 <shachaf> card game?
02:39:20 <shachaf> it won the Spiel des Jahres award
02:42:35 <\oren\> the board game is names after the japanese word
02:43:00 <shachaf> agreed
02:43:02 <\oren\> I can find no evidence of an english word "hanabi"
02:43:07 <shachaf> and the english word is named after the board game
02:48:29 <zzo38> Wiktionary says that "hanabi" is only Japanese words for fireworks, and does not say it is any words in English.
02:52:05 <shachaf> It's slang.
03:03:11 <shachaf> lynn: what sorts of regular expressions can you extend KMP to work with twh
03:06:20 <pikhq> zzo38: Sorya hontô desu kedo, eigo ga itsumo gaigo no kotoba wo tsukau to omou, ne.
03:06:32 <shachaf> pikhq: did you ever encounter the word "hanabi"
03:06:40 <pikhq> shachaf: In Japanese, yes.
03:06:48 <shachaf> In gmailese
03:06:57 <pikhq> I don't believe so.
03:07:06 <shachaf> I guess it's pretty specialized.
03:07:12 <lifthrasiir> TIL gmailese is a word
03:14:52 <shachaf> hi lifthrasiir
03:14:58 <lifthrasiir> lo
03:15:38 <shachaf> I don't remember where you are.
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03:24:24 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3dCCxBvgYQ
03:46:07 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: a country where the Pokemon GO is available by accident
03:46:30 <lifthrasiir> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/13/pokemon-go-south-koreans-remote-area-sokcho-google-maps
03:47:36 <shachaf> You live near the DMZ?
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03:50:34 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: Seoul is quite close to the DMZ, but not that near
03:50:42 <shachaf> Aha, Seoul.
03:50:54 <shachaf> Are you attending the 21st International Conference on Implementation and Application of Automata?
03:51:15 <lifthrasiir> no, I've heard that for the first time here
03:51:28 <lifthrasiir> http://toc.yonsei.ac.kr/ciaa2016/ heh
03:52:19 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: are you attending it?
03:52:37 <shachaf> No.
03:52:43 <shachaf> Someone in another channel is, though.
03:53:24 <shachaf> Or actually attending the 4th Int. Workshop on Trends in Tree Automata and Tree Transducers (TTATT 2016)
03:53:28 <shachaf> Which is co-located.
03:53:46 <lifthrasiir> http://toc.yonsei.ac.kr/ciaa2016/CIAA16_booklet.pdf the last page is useless, though
03:55:35 <shachaf> What, because it has no transliteration?
03:55:55 <lifthrasiir> yeah
03:56:20 <shachaf> But Hangul is a simple alphabet.
03:56:37 <shachaf> Or so I'm told.
03:56:38 <lifthrasiir> or the attendee is expected to show that page to the taxi drivers
03:56:47 <shachaf> So it's not unreasonable to expect visitors to learn it.
03:57:21 <shachaf> Alternatively they can copy and paste the text into Google Translate, and have it pronounced.
03:57:25 <shachaf> Using fizzie's coproduct.
03:57:26 <lifthrasiir> haha
03:57:44 <lifthrasiir> shachaf: the alphabet is simple, the language that maps the alphabet to the pronunciation is not simple
03:58:28 <shachaf> Ah.
03:58:46 <shachaf> "fizzie's coproduct" -- p. good huh
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05:07:56 <hppavilion[1]> Do most brands of Christianity permit other brands into heaven?
05:08:34 <hppavilion[1]> (For example, do Catholics let Lutherans in? Especially if they still follow the rules anyway? ("I never ate fish on Fridays; or at all"))
05:10:27 <izabera> vegan christians have it easy
05:10:45 <izabera> that's kind of unfair
05:11:36 <hppavilion[1]> My favorite doctrine of Christianity is Marksism, in which people of any doctrine _but_ this one go to heaven.
05:11:58 <izabera> that's marxism
05:12:11 <shachaf> There was this thing by Smullyan.
05:12:21 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: No, that's different
05:12:37 <hppavilion[1]> marxism /= marksism
05:12:52 <hppavilion[1]> "Today's assignment is to write out a set including only the numbers an asshole would put in a set"
05:13:37 <shachaf> russell proved that set doesn't exist hth
05:13:40 <izabera> all i found was this https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksism
05:13:46 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: ...no he didn't
05:13:52 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: That doesn't even make sense
05:14:09 <izabera> shachaf: you can just be an asshole and write down any number you want
05:14:30 <shachaf> well, that's not sufficient
05:14:38 <izabera> https://github.com/biiwide/marksism
05:15:32 <izabera> i'll write a letter to the pope asking what kind of penitence do vegan christians have to do during lent
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05:23:58 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: Yes, well, in estonian, Marksism is called "marxism"
05:24:07 <izabera> thanks
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06:00:10 <\oren\> The Falcon has landed
06:00:39 <\oren\> The landed right back at Kennedy where they launched from
06:01:07 <adu> hi oren
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06:31:25 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: Oh, you ripped off a comic strip without attribution.
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07:29:04 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Where in particular?
07:44:45 <Sgeo> So I'm taking random lenses and porting them to Elixir
07:44:55 <Sgeo> https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/dff922fdbabffa9dd613f25cfd60146e#file-optics-ex-L79
08:01:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brachylog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48913&oldid=46330 * 161.106.4.5 * (-153)
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08:43:55 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Perhaps that comic strip ripped me off?
08:44:16 <hppavilion[1]> (I saw Stephen Colbert say "mapole" I think)
08:48:37 <hppavilion[1]> (colboily: confirmed?)
08:53:06 <hppavilion[1]> (Perhaps there is a database of celebrities' usernames online...)
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10:26:29 <mroman> so...
10:26:31 <mroman> show (read @Int "5")
10:26:40 <mroman> what's so much different about that?
10:26:55 <mroman> show ((read "5") :: Int) ?
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11:19:06 <shachaf> What's the question?
11:19:21 <shachaf> Those the same.
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11:42:22 <mroman> it's a new feature in 8.0.1
11:42:25 <mroman> TypeApplications
11:42:35 <mroman> the question is: why?
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14:14:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Mayerjohntec69 * New user account
14:15:36 <Deewiant> mroman: IIRC this could be one reason: given f r = show (r "5") previously f (read :: String -> Int) but now f (read @Int).
14:16:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1-8.0.0860*9230))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks tech support Phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48917 * Mayerjohntec69 * (+33725) Created page with "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO phone number,(1~
14:16:20 <oerjan> fff
14:16:31 <oerjan> fizzie: ^
14:18:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[QB Support.....((1-8.0.0860*9230))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks tech support Phone number]]": Spam: content was: "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO..." (and the only contributor
14:18:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Oerjan * blocked [[User:Mayerjohntec69]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites
14:19:27 <oerjan> i'm paging fizzie because although i can delete and block, i have no idea how (and may not have the power) to prevent it in the first place
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14:25:32 <oerjan> maybe fizzie made the captcha harder, at least. they don't seem to be flooding every minute.
14:25:53 <oerjan> also, where is ais523...
14:27:56 <oerjan> @tell ais523 i think it would be nice if you took a look at the wiki spam filters again, we had a flood recently.
14:27:59 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
14:29:42 <oerjan> i see a lot of quickbooks spam was caught by filters too, some days ago.
14:31:08 <fizzie> Blörg.
14:31:45 <fizzie> I did make the CAPTCHA... well, not really harder, but different than what it used to be.
14:32:36 <fizzie> It's quite possible that was someone just trying it out, and will then resume spamflooding once they've written new instructions to their slaves, or however it works, I don't know.
14:32:48 <oerjan> gah
14:33:17 <fizzie> By this point, I'm pretty sure at least some humans are involved in circumventing the CAPTCHA.
14:33:48 <Taneb> Why would anyone bother with something like this
14:33:53 <Taneb> Who benefits
14:34:08 <oerjan> they may also be involved in circumventing the filters, since they went from being blocked to getting through from the 13th to the 14th.
14:34:18 <fizzie> The people running those phone numbers, presumably.
14:34:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Johnmayer452 * New user account
14:35:00 <fizzie> That doesn't look good.
14:35:10 <FireFly> Especially judging by the last user's name
14:35:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[QB Support.....((1-8.0.0860*9230))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks tech support Phone number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48918 * Johnmayer452 * (+33725) Created page with "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO phone number,(1~80
14:35:42 <FireFly> So what does the CAPTCHA have you do now?
14:35:59 <FireFly> I'm surprised they're bothering.. I'd think there's easier places to spam
14:36:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[QB Support.....((1-8.0.0860*9230))Quickbooks Support Phone Number and Quickbooks tech support Phone number]]": Spam: content was: "Helpline 1^800^860^9230))QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pro Support Phone Number QuickBooks Pos Support Phone Number QuickBooks PRO phon..." (and the only contrib
14:36:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Oerjan * blocked [[User:Johnmayer452]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites
14:37:26 <fizzie> oerjan: For the record, I closed down account creation and editing again, as a quick-fix.
14:37:39 <oerjan> good
14:37:59 <fizzie> FireFly: It shows you a string of the form 9NNNNNNNNN>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ (where each N is a random base-9 digit) and asks you to provide the number a Befunge interpreter would output when given that.
14:38:20 <oerjan> fizzie: editing seems unnecessary, no?
14:38:33 <fizzie> Well, that was before you blocked Johnmayer452.
14:38:38 <fizzie> I'll reopen it to existing users now.
14:39:18 <fizzie> Done.
14:39:36 <Taneb> I've seen wikis that require admins to make accounts and accounts to view pages
14:39:52 <fizzie> I refuse to believe anyone's generic MediaWiki scamming framework is extensive enough to include a Befunge interpreter, or sufficient logic to grok that they can reverse the N's and convert it from base 9 to base 10.
14:40:17 <FireFly> Oh, definitely has to be humans behind it now
14:40:25 <FireFly> So I guess that leaves trying to distinguish programmers from non-programmers
14:40:57 <fizzie> What about spamming programmers?
14:41:17 <oerjan> oh wait, i was misreading the dates. apparently the filters worked somewhat _while_ the spam was getting through.
14:41:22 <oerjan> it just didn't stop all.
14:42:57 <oerjan> hm or maybe it did, until they found out. the blockings went on for several hours.
14:44:02 <fizzie> Oh, so they're now writing the phone number in a different form.
14:44:07 <fizzie> Time to block all numbers?
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14:45:28 <fizzie> Maybe I'll re-swap the CAPTCHA to the "impossible" one and restore the normal permissions, that way there's at least an explanation.
14:51:34 <oerjan> fizzie: ok on rechecking the times, the blocking and the getting through was pretty much simultaneously ongoing, so they were just doing it randomly and sometimes getting through, sometimes not.
14:52:36 <oerjan> this is somewhat encouraging since it might mean they're still not using humans to circumvent filters.
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14:55:38 <fizzie> It wouldn't be impossible to make the filter just a little bit more flexible to match those articles that did get through.
14:57:13 <fizzie> Although there's at least one delightful attempt who used the "DINGBAT NEGATIVE CIRCLED DIGIT N" characters to type the number.
14:57:54 <dingbat> I are been summoned
14:58:09 <fizzie> Sorry about that.
14:58:39 <dingbat> :) Is ok. Summons are good. Except when is police.
14:58:48 <fizzie> By the way, I got an email from Google Search Console Team about "User-generated spam detected on http://esolangs.org/"
14:59:17 <fizzie> "Google has applied a manual spam action to esolangs.org/wiki/Hotmail_support_phone_@+1.8.002.1.3.2.1.7.1_+@_Hotmail_customer_service_PHONE_number_usa. This also causes your site’s URLs to appear for queries not related to your actual site content, lowering the quality of search results for Google Search users, and thereby also impacting your site’s reputation and ranking. For that reason, ...
14:59:23 <fizzie> ... we strongly advise you to remove the spam and file a reconsideration request."
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15:01:45 <pranay> hlo
15:02:01 <oerjan> `relcome pranay
15:02:16 <HackEgo> pranay: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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15:05:37 <pranay> hlo
15:05:43 <pranay> r u there?
15:05:50 <oerjan> yes
15:05:58 <oerjan> it just got a bit quiet
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15:07:38 <pranay> no
15:08:01 <pranay> how can i login in http://esolangs.org/
15:08:09 <oerjan> oh.
15:08:22 <oerjan> we just disabled it because of spam.
15:08:32 <pranay> if i want a to get information from this website.
15:08:40 <oerjan> pranay: you can still read it.
15:08:41 <pranay> okk
15:08:52 <pranay> ok
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15:09:15 <oerjan> unless fizzie did something wrong.
15:09:24 <fizzie> I hope I didn't. It works for me.
15:10:11 <pranay> then how can i create a account
15:10:51 <fizzie> I can give you the magic word, if you describe what sort of things you were thinking of adding that you need an account for.
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15:26:33 <oerjan> i'm getting reminded of https://xkcd.com/810/ and https://xkcd.com/632/
15:27:20 <oerjan> except with humans instead of AIs.
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15:38:31 <_46bit> goodbyte
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15:38:46 <oerjan> <fizzie> And the frog says it's going to be 31 on Tuesday. <-- frog?
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16:07:53 <int-e> weather frog?
16:08:19 <oerjan> what are those
16:09:58 <int-e> there's the idea that the weather could be forecasts by frogs climbing on a ladder to the height preferred by flies... not sure which cultural background it comes from.
16:10:51 <oerjan> never heard of.
16:11:03 <fizzie> http://www.androidcentral.com/google-introduces-new-weather-experience-android-detailed-10-day-forecast-severe-weather-alerts-and
16:11:08 <fizzie> I was speaking of that frog.
16:11:15 <fizzie> (See the leftmost screenshot.)
16:11:23 <int-e> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetterfrosch suggests no other languages.
16:11:47 <fizzie> I believe the choice of a frog as the "mascot" (if that's the word) was motivated by what int-e is talking about, however.
16:12:32 <int-e> http://c7.alamy.com/comp/CPN65F/weather-weatherman-in-glass-lithograph-germany-1903-frog-frogs-little-CPN65F.jpg
16:15:33 <oerjan> okay!
16:17:42 <int-e> so it appears that this idea originated in Germany and hasn't made it very far.
16:18:07 <int-e> (I asked a dutch colleage about it and he didn't know of these things either)
16:18:24 <int-e> colleague.
16:26:13 <oerjan> collage.
16:28:48 <oerjan> girl genius: uh oh
16:31:09 <int-e> treachery
16:31:26 <oerjan> possibly a revenant?
16:31:39 <int-e> well at least this keeps things interesting
16:31:50 <int-e> it's one of many possibilities
16:31:52 <FireFly> I should catch up
16:33:55 * oerjan hopes tarvek has taken his own wasp antidote.
16:34:13 <int-e> There is the whole Sturmvoraus family, there's Gil who may be more clever than the librarian thinks...
16:34:37 <int-e> ...pretty much the only party I don't expect to be behind this surprising turn of events is Agatha's company.
16:35:25 <oerjan> i doubt gil is clever enough to have a librarian spy on board there and _still_ go ballistic at the events...
16:35:47 <oerjan> (whoever it was, _did_ use a pen so i assume their a librarian.)
16:36:05 <oerjan> *theyre
16:36:09 <Taneb> Spy of the mayor of Paris guy, maybe?
16:36:09 <oerjan> *+'
16:36:18 <oerjan> Taneb: *master
16:36:33 <int-e> it's not entirely clear to me that this is a pen
16:36:34 <oerjan> hm that's an option, i guess.
16:37:05 <int-e> plausible given the context, but not unambigous in the drawing as far as I can see.
16:37:34 <oerjan> hm
16:37:47 <int-e> unambiguous... It's atrocious spelling day.
16:38:11 <oerjan> however, the revenants are probably the _worst_ option, so a priori most likely hth
16:40:20 <int-e> we'll find out soon enough
16:40:35 <oerjan> AAAAAAAAA two more days!!!1
16:40:53 <oerjan> or worse.
16:41:03 <int-e> (or maybe not... this is the perfect day for one of their interludes with plays about the Hetordynes)
16:41:20 <oerjan> how so?
16:41:39 <int-e> Oh, just to keep the suspense... :P
16:42:06 <int-e> (I know that they usually do this between volumes so it *is* rather unlikely to happen right now)
16:44:30 <oerjan> which reminds me, we still don't know what happened after they escaped othar's shrinking ray
16:45:16 * oerjan wonders if those stories are future canon or not.
16:46:04 <int-e> hmmmmm. canon fodder.
16:46:49 <oerjan> also, what krosp is currently up to.
16:47:09 <int-e> ooh
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16:47:37 <int-e> Maybe Othelia grew wings and is now chasing librarian airships.
16:47:59 <int-e> (I forgot whether she was completely destroyed or not)
16:48:01 <oerjan> the most logical thing would be for him to try to liberate his creator, i think.
16:48:17 <oerjan> which afaik is on board castle wulfenbach.
16:48:28 <oerjan> but maybe he has more important orders.
16:48:38 <int-e> I really don't know.
16:48:44 <oerjan> int-e: i believe othelia is currently stuck in mechanicsburg.
16:49:10 <int-e> did she stay in the castle?
16:49:16 <oerjan> in the fun sized dog clank body.
16:49:35 <int-e> there was a dramatic leap rescuing a number of people... that's the last thing I remember
16:49:54 <oerjan> oh she did leave the castle after that.
16:49:54 <int-e> (of her)
16:50:09 <oerjan> i'm sure of that, but not quite what happened after.
16:50:19 <oerjan> i think she helped with the repairs?
16:50:23 <oerjan> lessee...
16:50:44 <int-e> also, did we ever see that dragon again?
16:51:05 <int-e> the lightning powered one, IIRC? it had a name... meh.
16:51:25 <oerjan> i think he's also in mechanicsburg, naturally
16:51:43 <oerjan> or wait
16:51:56 <oerjan> he threw gil out of town. not sure if he's been seen since.
16:52:03 <oerjan> maybe he didn't reenter?
16:52:20 <int-e> that would make it interesting :P
16:53:51 <oerjan> franz it was
16:54:08 <int-e> thanks
17:00:27 <oerjan> bah time to check the wiki
17:10:32 <oerjan> bah neither the article on Franz nor about Otilia gives enough recent information.
17:11:28 <int-e> bah, spelling.
17:11:54 <int-e> Btw I didn't realize until typing "Sturmvoraus" that it's proper German all the way through.
17:12:08 <oerjan> heh
17:12:32 <int-e> (well modulo the missing space)
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17:58:27 <oerjan> int-e: last sight of franz, so he did come back http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20130408
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18:02:31 <izabera> which one looks faster? https://arin.ga/KGzx7A/raw
18:03:02 <izabera> i never know what's faster just by looking at x86_64 asm
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18:25:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[PythoLambda]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48920&oldid=46641 * CodeMaster111 * (+9)
19:02:48 <\oren\> wait since when is ƛ a lambda
19:02:56 <\oren\> `unidecode ƛ
19:03:15 <HackEgo> ​[U+019B LATIN SMALL LETTER LAMBDA WITH STROKE]
19:04:02 <\oren\> oh
19:04:06 <\oren\> hmm
19:04:18 <oerjan> since the stroke, poor thing
19:04:58 * gamemanj hugs the little lambda
19:05:22 <shachaf> It's the only lambda in Unicode, isn't it?
19:05:34 <shachaf> `ls share
19:05:37 <HackEgo> 8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ candide \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ headers \ headers.gch \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ mtg \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ recipe \ scapegoats \ sedtest \
19:05:43 <\oren\> `unicode LAMBDA
19:05:49 <HackEgo> U+019B LATIN SMALL LETTER LAMBDA WITH STROKE \ UTF-8: c6 9b UTF-16BE: 019b Decimal: &#411; \ ƛ \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+039B GREEK CAPITAL LETTER LAMDA \ UTF-8: ce 9b UTF-16BE: 039b Decimal: &#923; \ Λ (λ) \ Lowercase: U+03BB \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+03BB G
19:05:50 <shachaf> `` rm share/radio.php*
19:05:58 <HackEgo> No output.
19:06:14 <shachaf> Yep.
19:06:17 <oerjan> `` unicode LAMBDA | grep LAMBDA
19:06:22 <HackEgo> U+019B LATIN SMALL LETTER LAMBDA WITH STROKE
19:06:29 <\oren\> woah, it matched LAMDA as well?
19:06:45 <oerjan> \oren\: it's probably a synonym
19:06:51 <\oren\> `` unicode LAMBDA | grep LAMDA
19:06:56 <HackEgo> U+039B GREEK CAPITAL LETTER LAMDA \ U+03BB GREEK SMALL LETTER LAMDA
19:06:57 <oerjan> just not the official name
19:07:12 <\oren\> `` unicode LAMBDA | grep lambda
19:07:17 <HackEgo> No output.
19:08:01 <oerjan> i'm not sure it uses lower case in any relevant data, ever
19:08:36 <oerjan> also, i don't think it's actually a typo, _modern_ greek actually calls it that.
19:09:40 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMDA
19:11:52 <\oren\> `unicode LAUDA
19:11:57 <HackEgo> No output.
19:12:00 <\oren\> `unicode LAULA
19:12:03 <HackEgo> U+2C96 COPTIC CAPITAL LETTER LAULA \ UTF-8: e2 b2 96 UTF-16BE: 2c96 Decimal: &#11414; \ Ⲗ (ⲗ) \ Lowercase: U+2C97 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+2C97 COPTIC SMALL LETTER LAULA \ UTF-8: e2 b2 97 UTF-16BE: 2c97 Decimal: &#11415; \ ⲗ (Ⲗ) \ Uppercase: U+2C96 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (
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19:14:57 <\oren\> Ooh, my font doesn't have Coptic yet
19:15:47 <oerjan> what a copt-out
19:17:01 <\oren\> that could help me get to the next milestone (over 9000)
19:17:31 <oerjan> over 9000!
19:17:36 <oerjan> good milestone
19:17:43 <\oren\> currently I have 8300 or so
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19:19:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48921&oldid=46667 * Albedo * (+23) /* External Resources */ Category: low-level added
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19:31:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48922&oldid=48921 * Albedo * (+0) /* External Resources */ typo
19:32:43 <oerjan> new bfjoust program?
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19:58:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:GermanyBoy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48923&oldid=46455 * GermanyBoy * (+88) mentioned pscript
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21:04:15 <izabera> it turns out you have to initialize variables to 0 if you want them to be 0
21:04:36 <izabera> especially if that variable is the length of used memory and you don't want shit to segfault
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21:08:41 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECJo82Qp2oM
21:09:48 <\oren\> ある静かな夕暮れ、一人の子共が空に消えた 動く星にさらわれてもういなくなったんだ 何はともあれこれでいいだろう、坊や 宇宙船は快適だろう、楽しいだろう
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21:13:10 <int-e> hmmm, Category: low-level added ... where was that policy about new categories?
21:26:54 <\oren\> Argh I hate it when code breaks for no apparent reason
21:27:57 <\oren\> Damn uninitialized variables and their tendency to adopt good values when first added
21:28:34 <\oren\> and then get bad values when seemingly dead code is deleted
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23:11:31 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
23:11:31 <lambdabot> EGLL 182150Z AUTO 18005KT 130V200 9999 NCD 22/17 Q1021 NOSIG
23:11:39 <fizzie> It's 25.9 inside. :/
23:12:19 <fizzie> And the frog had revised Tuesday's high to 33.
23:12:45 <ais523> @metar EGBB
23:12:45 <lambdabot> EGBB 182150Z 15003KT CAVOK 20/17 Q1020
23:12:54 <ais523> wow, it's even hotter for you than it is for me
23:13:00 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
23:13:01 <lambdabot> KOAK 182153Z 27014KT 10SM SCT015 20/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP193 T02000117
23:13:02 <ais523> and it's pretty hot here, by UK standards
23:13:10 <fizzie> I think I was told London is generally hotter than the rest of the country.
23:13:15 <shachaf> It's kind of cold here lately, for summer standards.
23:13:19 <shachaf> @metar KSJC
23:13:20 <lambdabot> KSJC 182153Z 32011KT 10SM FEW008 FEW017 22/13 A3008 RMK AO2 SLP185 T02220128
23:13:26 <shachaf> @metar KPHX
23:13:26 <lambdabot> KPHX 182151Z 00000KT 10SM FEW095 FEW160 SCT250 39/15 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP097 CB DSNT N T03940150
23:13:47 <shachaf> If I feel cold, maybe I ought to visit my friend in Phoenix.
23:14:14 <fizzie> @metar KBOS
23:14:15 <lambdabot> KBOS 182154Z 22004KT 10SM FEW048 BKN130 OVC180 27/19 A2993 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2041 TSE23RAE35 SLP134 SHRA NW P0000 T02720194 $
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23:14:29 <fizzie> @metar KORD
23:14:30 <lambdabot> KORD 182151Z VRB03KT 10SM FEW045 SCT150 SCT250 31/14 A3014 RMK AO2 SLP201 T03110139
23:14:36 <shachaf> That's ridiculous.
23:14:41 <fizzie> I'll be going to both of those places, and they seem hot. :/
23:15:34 <ais523> fizzie: oerjan (for the logs): I'm looking at the most recent spam attack and trying to figure out how to filter it, but the spambot is trying very hard to make itself hard to filter
23:16:02 <shachaf> Seeing games like this almost makes you want to go into the business of spambotting.
23:17:24 <fizzie> ais523: I was thinking of something like (\d\W{0,2}){9} or however many digits there were in a phone number. Though that wouldn't have caught the one title where they weren't normal digits.
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23:20:06 <fizzie> I'm just disappointed I went through the trouble of dreaming up a Befunge CAPTCHA, and all for naught.
23:21:30 <shachaf> `quote zzo38.*how to
23:21:41 <ais523> something like "(, [^ ]+)(.*\1){30}" against the page text would match pretty much all the spam pages and very few legitimate pages, but is much too expensive a regex to run
23:21:47 <HackEgo> No output.
23:22:21 <ais523> a relatively simple way to shut down the spambot, actually, would be to ban creating a new page with a title that's > 30 characters long on your first edit
23:23:07 <ais523> there are legitimate reasons to do that but if we explain what's going on in the error message, a human could easily figure out a way around, it'd be harder for a spambot
23:23:17 <shachaf> ais523: Can that be evaluated more efficiently?
23:23:58 <ais523> not in MediaWiki's spam filter language
23:24:13 <ais523> it's possible to write a custom regex engine that could do it in O(n log n) I think
23:24:46 <ais523> (you do a linear parse to find the first word after every comma, and store their frequencies in a hash table)
23:25:18 <ais523> ooh, this spambot doesn't know how to do line breaks either
23:25:24 <ais523> I think I can write a filter that relies on that
23:31:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/abusefilter]] modify * Ais523 * modified [[Special:AbuseFilter/7]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/7/diff/prev/37]])
23:32:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-maybefalsepositive-warning]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48924&oldid=37717 * Ais523 * (+80) make this more visible
23:33:11 <Kaynato> Almost makes one curious about making a spam-based esolang
23:33:12 <shachaf> But bots are able to view the abuse filters.
23:34:05 <ais523> fizzie: fwiw there seems to be a Unicode normalization feature, so we probably could match the number itself
23:34:24 <ais523> shachaf: my normal assumption is that the only human involvement in spamming is in breaking the CAPTCHA, and everything else is automated
23:34:28 <ais523> so far that's worked out quite well
23:34:36 <ais523> if it doesn't, there are other countermeasures that can be taken
23:34:42 <ais523> for example, I can create a secret filter if required
23:34:56 <ais523> but I'd rather not do that unless I have to because it makes things harder on legitimate users
23:35:18 <zzo38> If needed to, make the filters visible only to confirmed and autoconfirmed users.
23:35:47 <shachaf> What if the spammer is in this very channel?
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23:35:57 <shachaf> what if ais523 is the spammer
23:36:00 <ais523> I can't easily do that (it could be done via manual changes to the permission sets in the MediaWiki configuration)
23:36:09 <Kaynato> Shachaf, that would be a special kind of paranoia
23:36:28 <Kaynato> We could get some folks from 419eater, maybe
23:36:30 <myname> you can't do shit against someone who wants to screw _ypur_ exact site
23:36:45 <myname> you can do plenty of stuff to protect against general spam bots
23:36:46 <shachaf> You can ban automatic account creation.
23:37:40 <ais523> myname: the anti-spam filter we're using was created for Wikipedia, it has features designed to be used against people attacking your site specifically
23:37:46 <ais523> because Wikipedia gets a lot of targeted attackers
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23:38:22 <shachaf> I bet they keep the best spam filters to themselves.
23:39:14 <ais523> there was some controversy a while back when it turned out that an admin had been using secret spam filters in order to secretly ban people
23:40:37 <fizzie> FWIW, the spammers we get also spam loads of other "small" wikis.
23:40:59 <shachaf> Maybe the solution is to move esolangs.org to Wikia.
23:41:07 <shachaf> That way we'd get a whole bunch of ads for free too.
23:41:17 <fizzie> For example, http://zdoom.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Titleblacklist has some entries that are clearly for the same stuff.
23:41:32 <fizzie> (Like the .*[Qq]uick(en|[\s]*[Bb]ooks).* <autoconfirmed> # QuickBooks Indian spam one.)
23:41:50 <shachaf> (I say "we" but I only read the esolangs wiki. I don't even have an account.)
23:41:53 <myname> but without spambots we wouldn't have real fast nora
23:42:06 <ais523> there are quite a few languages inspired by spambots
23:42:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Skype @@(844-307-5701 SKYPE tech support phone number S]]": looks like we missed one
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23:42:52 <shachaf> Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download
23:43:21 <shachaf> I wish Google had autocompletion for that search query.
23:43:28 <shachaf> People ought to type the whole query in more often.
23:43:44 <lynn> Spam bots are a vital part of esolangs culture!
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23:44:04 <ais523> actually we missed a lot more than oen!
23:44:13 <shachaf> hi lynn
23:44:19 <ais523> shachaf: does it complete the bit before "download"?
23:44:25 <shachaf> Not for me.
23:44:32 <shachaf> `hi lynn
23:44:34 <HackEgo> Hi lynn. Hynn.
23:44:43 <shachaf> did you see my kmp question
23:45:04 <lynn> Shichif~. I'm about to go to bed. :<
23:45:15 <shachaf> oh no
23:45:17 <shachaf> @time lynn
23:45:26 <lambdabot> Local time for lynn is Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:45:18 GMT
23:45:41 <lynn> What was it, though?
23:46:16 <lynn> (That's not quiiiite my local time...)
23:46:21 <shachaf> 19:03:33 <shachaf> lynn: what sorts of regular expressions can you extend KMP to work with twh
23:46:51 <shachaf> KMP is special in that it generates a DFA with a number of states ~equal to the length of the needle.
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23:48:24 <shachaf> Taneb: What's the advantage of Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download over Binary Lambda Calculus?
23:48:42 <shachaf> I like the name but it seems silly for both languages to exist.
23:48:58 <ais523> I'm about to mass-delete a /lot/ of pages
23:49:09 <ais523> should I mute HackEgo or do people want to see the madness?
23:49:29 <shachaf> I have no desire to see the madness.
23:49:41 <shachaf> But if it's a mass-delete, it ought to be only one line of HackEgo.
23:49:54 <ais523> I'll do a few to see how bad it gets
23:50:02 <ais523> and then mute it if it's spammy and not otherwise
23:50:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Q.u.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s .phone number@@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]]": clean up after the recent spambot attack
23:50:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Quickbooks phone number18885135978 @@@Quickbooks support phone number@@Quickbooks help desk phone number r]]": clean up after the recent spambot attack
23:50:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Vermont 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks ENTERPRISE Support P.h.o.n.e. Number]]": clean up after the recent spambot attack
23:50:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Skype(844.307.5701 SKYPE tech support phone number]]": clean up after the recent spambot attack
23:50:31 <ais523> that's pretty spammy I think
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23:55:07 <ais523> fizzie: for future reference, the spambots were creating pages and renaming them in order to hide the pages from the page creation log
23:55:19 <shachaf> What I like about the name "Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download" is that word juxtaposition has a higher precendence than colon, so it gets parsed as "(Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3): (Shear Disaster Download)"
23:55:20 <ais523> you need to check the move log too in order to catc all the spam
23:55:46 <ais523> yes, I like that too
23:55:48 <shachaf> Using the concatenation operator like that is a bug which makes for exciting grammar.
23:56:12 <shachaf> now invent an esolang based on that idea twh
23:56:45 <ais523> btw, any opinions on Subtractpocalypse?
23:56:47 <shachaf> Where somehow you construct trees but you're only allowed to use operations that don't respect precedence to do it.
23:58:03 <fizzie> ais523: I used Special:Nuke.
23:58:46 <ais523> fizzie: hmm, presumably the spambots are using pagemoves as a way around it then
23:59:06 <ais523> I have a suspicion they've been renaming each other's pages
23:59:17 <ais523> to make it harder to detect
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00:03:59 <fizzie> Well, what do you think -- should I change the CAPTCHA back to something possible to see if the filter's coping? Or maybe at some later time when I'll be around to watch what happens.
00:04:21 <fizzie> (By the way, did you notice we had a likely spammer come by on the channel to ask for help in creating a new account?)
00:04:33 <ais523> fizzie: no, I wasn't here I don't think
00:04:41 <ais523> can you give a date so that I can logread it?
00:05:09 <fizzie> Today at 15:00..15:18 BST.
00:05:23 <fizzie> Er, well, yesterday.
00:05:42 <myname> that guy who waited two whole minutes?
00:05:45 <fizzie> Logical today, as it's called where I come from.
00:05:54 <fizzie> myname: No, I think that was possibly someone legitimate.
00:06:55 <fizzie> This one wanted an account "to get information from this website", and left when I asked what sort of edits they wanted to make they needed an account for.
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00:08:05 <myname> lol
00:08:58 <shachaf> Hmm, I kind of want to create an account.
00:09:11 <shachaf> But apparently it's impossible.
00:09:58 <ais523> why is it impossible? we have a funge interpreter in the channel :-)
00:10:19 <shachaf> No, the CAPTCHA was changed.
00:10:23 <fizzie> ais523: I switched it back from the Befunge one to the "impossible" one when those two new spam accounts were made today.
00:10:34 <ais523> ah right
00:10:43 <ais523> in what sense is it impossible? it doesn't give any information that would help you answer?
00:10:47 <fizzie> Yes.
00:10:51 <fizzie> And it's a random answer.
00:11:07 <shachaf> So it's just a low probability.
00:11:08 <fizzie> I did let at least one person know the string when they messaged me and made sense.
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00:14:47 <izabera> LO AND BEHOLD
00:14:49 <izabera> $ inutility dd conv=swab,ucase obs=2 ibs=3 <<< abcdef
00:14:51 <izabera> BADCFE
00:14:53 <izabera> 2+1 records in
00:14:55 <izabera> 3+1 records out
00:14:57 <izabera> 7 bytes (7.0B) copied, 0.000062s, 110.3K/s
00:15:19 <izabera> conv=swab now works!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:15:31 <izabera> i know you're all excited for this
00:17:32 <ais523> izabera: I was going to say "that seems like a pretty eso use of dd"
00:17:38 <ais523> then realised there was a dd-based esolang already
00:17:51 <izabera> :o which one?
00:18:51 <ais523> ddsh
00:19:08 <ais523> it is basically Bourne sh (not bash!) where the only program you're allowed to shell out to is dd
00:19:21 <ais523> the CLC-INTERCAL maintainer wrote an editor in it
00:19:32 <izabera> :o
00:20:02 <izabera> well it's not on the wiki
00:20:08 <myname> impressive
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00:21:35 <pikhq> ais523: Does that work in POSIX-compliant sh, or only the historical Bourne sh?
00:21:43 <pikhq> (they are not the same thing at all)
00:21:48 <ais523> pikhq: I'm not sure
00:22:05 <ais523> http://dd-sh.intercal.org.uk/
00:22:13 <pikhq> Sadly, ddsh is not a very googlable string.
00:22:16 <ais523> looks like the language is defined wrt Bourne sh specifically
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00:25:23 <pikhq> From what I can see, it looks like it's also valid POSIX sh.
00:25:58 <pikhq> Which makes sense as the differences between Bourne and POSIX sh are mostly in that there's a few unusual strings that in Bourne wouldn't do anything but in POSIX sh do something.
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02:04:25 <victo> ?.
02:04:25 <lambdabot> Not enough arguments to @.
02:05:27 <hppavilion[1]> `? heck
02:05:36 <HackEgo> Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh.
02:06:07 <hppavilion[1]> `learn Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh, or are darned for some other reason.
02:06:12 <HackEgo> Relearned 'heck': Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh, or are darned for some other reason.
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05:37:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48925&oldid=48911 * Darkrifts * (+454) /* Answered question about loops */
05:38:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48926&oldid=48925 * Darkrifts * (+86)
05:40:51 <izabera> $ busybox dd conv=swab bs=3 status=none <<< 1234
05:40:53 <izabera> 213dd: can't swab 3 byte buffer
05:40:57 <izabera> inutility > busybox!
05:46:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48927&oldid=48910 * Darkrifts * (+147)
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06:33:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48928&oldid=48927 * Darkrifts * (+1313)
06:37:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48929&oldid=48928 * Darkrifts * (+400) /* Documentation */
06:53:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48930&oldid=48929 * Darkrifts * (+277)
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07:37:52 <Sgeo> So I've read that Pokemon TCG is cheap. But does it avoid pay-to-win? Or at least have a short ceiling?
07:40:09 <Sgeo> And is the online version better software than MTGO? (I'm assuming yes because everyone says MTGO is terrible)
07:40:38 <shachaf> mtgo is terrible but have you considered that all software is terrible
07:41:45 <pikhq> MTGO is a special kind of terrible.
07:41:50 <pikhq> But yes, I have considered that.
07:42:51 <Sgeo> I forget why I stopped playing Hearthstone. Might have been influenced by my Hearthstone-obsessed coworker stopping
07:46:07 <shachaf> maybe it was the pay-to-win aspect
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07:54:57 <Sgeo> A lot of RNG in Pokemon TCG
07:55:26 <pikhq> Sounds like an accurate TCG version of the RPG, then.
07:55:50 * Sgeo doesn't care about the RPG >.>
07:55:57 <pikhq> Pokemon, I love you, but stop with some of the randomness.
07:56:58 <pikhq> 1/8192 odds of something are a real mean thing to put in a game.
07:57:29 <Sgeo> o.O
07:57:30 <pikhq> (odds of a Pokemon being shiny, pre-gen VI)
07:57:48 <shachaf> Well, who cares about shiny? 
07:57:50 <pikhq> Gen VI tweaked it! ... now it's 2/8192.
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07:57:54 <pikhq> shachaf: Lots of people.
07:58:08 <shachaf> Is it the same as in mtg?
07:58:27 <pikhq> Where it's purely cosmetic? Yes.
07:58:47 <shachaf> Then I don't care.
07:59:03 <shachaf> Let them make their money from hats.
07:59:27 <pikhq> That's my stance on it. I've caught some shiny Pokemon, but I am *not* gonna spend any time trying to find 'em.
08:00:05 <pikhq> Keep in mind, the RPGs... don't have anything like a pay-money-to-get-things mechanic.
08:00:31 <pikhq> Aside from, well, buying the games.
08:02:31 <Sgeo> Hmm. This tutorial would be terrible for colorblind non-Pokemon players
08:02:40 <Sgeo> It's asking me to find the energy it asks for
08:02:45 <Sgeo> http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/play-online/tutorial/
08:03:00 <Sgeo> Oh it's actually hilighting the correct answer
08:03:05 <Sgeo> I think this tutorial is for kids
08:03:25 <pikhq> That is the primary audience of nearly everything in the franchise.
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09:42:09 <hppavilion[1]> ...trump just bragged about how humble he is.
09:42:21 <hppavilion[1]> That's, like, the kind of thing I use as joke fodder
10:09:07 <hppavilion[1]> Are there any cthonic prayers besides Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn?
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10:44:01 <LKoen> hppavilion[1]: he obviously doesn't have the same background as you do. what's an overused joke to you might be a great serious innovation to him
10:44:33 <hppavilion[1]> LKoen: Yes, but bragging about humbility is absurd in any background
10:45:05 <LKoen> well, obviously he hasn't had the same training as you in the subtle art of logical reasoning
10:45:31 <LKoen> or maybe he's not quite sure of the meaning of humility but thought it sounded cool
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11:37:44 <fizzie> I think I'll change the esolangs.org CAPTCHA back to the Befunge one, to see if ais523's new filter is catching the spam. Now that I'm mostly around to monitor the situation.
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12:26:59 <int-e> tromp: btw I convinced Isabelle that your CL fixed point combinator is a fixed point combinator, modulo a tiny encoding trick (I'm using a fresh constant instead of an arbitrary CL term for the equation `Tx = `x`Tx, and I have not proved the corresponding closure of rewriting under substitution)
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14:24:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Spoon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48932&oldid=37343 * Erikkonstas * (+113) /* Interpreter? */ new section
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14:47:47 <tromp> int-e: i didnt realize that was a challenge. given how easy it is with a few equations
14:48:00 <oerjan> <int-e> hmmm, Category: low-level added ... where was that policy about new categories? <-- Esolang:Policy hth
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14:50:42 <oerjan> hm, boiled fizzie
14:50:57 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
14:50:58 <lambdabot> ENVA 191320Z 25011KT CAVOK 18/11 Q1015 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29008KT
14:51:14 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
14:51:15 <lambdabot> EGLL 191320Z AUTO 16011KT 9999 NCD 32/14 Q1016
14:51:17 <fizzie> Very much so.
14:51:34 <oerjan> he's alive!
14:51:52 <fizzie> There's air conditioning at work.
14:51:58 <fizzie> I may never leave the building.
14:52:02 <oerjan> aha
14:52:17 <FireFly> @metar ESSB
14:52:17 <lambdabot> ESSB 191320Z 30006KT 270V350 CAVOK 22/07 Q1017
14:54:15 * oerjan is trying out the automated hydra.
14:54:41 <oerjan> > 50000 heads so far. it's really an astoundingly bad strategy.
14:54:43 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:62:
14:54:43 <lambdabot> parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
14:54:46 <oerjan> oops
14:55:05 <FireFly> automated hydra?
14:55:24 <oerjan> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml using the automated play
14:55:43 <oerjan> manually, i've made it in less than 300.
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14:56:47 <oerjan> it always chooses the leftmost head, which is about the worst thing you can do because it almost never prunes the oldest branch.
14:57:37 <oerjan> and also, when it does, there will be a _lot_ of room for new junk to appear.
14:58:19 <int-e> tromp: it's not much of a challenge... I'm dabbling. But it's not completely trivial to incorporate a rewriting strategy into a proof... and I didn't want to list all the intermediate steps.
14:58:29 <oerjan> the second oldest branch is getting small though, so maybe soon another cut.
14:59:29 <int-e> tromp: so the fun part was to get the machinery to the point where http://lpaste.net/7970676195693953024 works.
14:59:37 <oerjan> hm the second oldest branch exploded, but has no direness left.
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15:03:04 <oerjan> i guess i'm really talking about the oldest branch of the oldest branch.
15:03:13 <tromp> the challenge will be in proving that no smaller combinator works
15:04:15 <FireFly> Hm, tricky
15:05:23 <\oren\> Just cut off the highest leftmost head
15:05:39 <\oren\> highest first, then pickleftmost at that level
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15:07:30 <FireFly> But direness is important to avoid it exploding in complexity
15:08:10 <\oren\> but dire heads are always right of normal ones
15:08:31 <FireFly> Oh hm
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15:09:18 <oerjan> my manual strategy is basically never to take a dire one unless everything on top of it is pruned first. i may reconsider that, though.
15:09:48 <oerjan> (since i haven't tested what happens when i don't)
15:09:51 <\oren\> beat it
15:09:59 <\oren\> 539 heads
15:10:05 <oerjan> ah
15:10:19 <oerjan> not my best but better than my average.
15:10:31 <\oren\> highest level, leftmost on that level
15:11:02 * oerjan will try something like that when this automated eventually stops
15:11:52 <oerjan> note that afaict a lot of the strategy depends on the program having a limit to how much junk it will produce simultaneously.
15:12:17 <oerjan> otherwise it would obviously go on for >>> heat death
15:13:53 <copumpkin> shachaf: yes I have pooches!
15:24:04 <oerjan> ah now the oldest branch has only the dire subbranch left
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15:41:49 <oerjan> <fizzie> I'll be going to both of those places, and they seem hot. :/ <-- on the basis of a single sample, i can confirm that boston is hot hth
15:46:35 <prooftechnique> Currently, yes, but it is also often cold
15:46:49 <oerjan> NOT IN MY EXPERIENCE
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15:55:34 <quintopia> the mathematical type of hydras eh
15:58:23 <oerjan> @tell ais523 afaict your new filter says it depends on title but actually depends on entire article, is that intended?
15:58:23 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:10:58 <oerjan> <ais523> fizzie: for future reference, the spambots were creating pages and renaming them in order to hide the pages from the page creation log <-- hm that might explain why you got the google warning
16:11:10 <oerjan> fizzie: ^
16:12:56 <oerjan> makes more sense than google happening to catch it during the spam itself.
16:14:14 <oerjan> <shachaf> Taneb: What's the advantage of Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download over Binary Lambda Calculus? <-- readability, duh
16:16:19 <Taneb> @ping
16:16:19 <lambdabot> pong
16:16:32 <oerjan> 6uod
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16:24:39 <FireFly> Google warning?
16:26:22 <\oren\> @ding
16:26:22 <lambdabot> pong
16:26:25 <\oren\> @bing
16:26:25 <lambdabot> pong
16:26:31 <\oren\> this upsets me
16:26:51 <\oren\> @ting
16:26:51 <lambdabot> pong
16:26:56 <\oren\> @ring
16:26:56 <lambdabot> pong
16:27:22 <\oren\> @marco
16:27:22 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
16:27:48 <\oren\> fix this
16:28:14 <\oren\> `? ping
16:29:55 <HackEgo> ping? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
16:31:16 <oerjan> FireFly: after the spam flood, fizzie got an email from google's spam detection whatever saying they'd tagged the wiki for spam.
16:32:03 <FireFly> Ah, I see
16:32:39 <oerjan> <\oren\> this upsets me <-- just learn haskell and submit a pull request to fix it hth
16:33:41 <oerjan> int-e: do commands in lambdabot have access to the uncorrected command name they were called with?
16:34:08 <oerjan> if so, it should be relatively simple.
16:34:18 <oerjan> @sting
16:34:19 <lambdabot> pong
16:34:38 <oerjan> except maybe what to do if the i is missing.
16:35:08 <oerjan> @ping hi
16:35:08 <lambdabot> pong
16:35:26 <oerjan> maybe it should just s/i/o/ to the whole command
16:37:14 <oerjan> @gung hi
16:37:14 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: run ping bug
16:37:18 <oerjan> bah
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16:38:08 <oerjan> @sing song
16:38:08 <lambdabot> pong
16:38:31 <int-e> oerjan: I don't think so
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16:38:43 <oerjan> hm
16:39:06 <int-e> but I have not checked...
16:39:32 <int-e> ...it's quite possible actually that they get access to the whole IRC message and then they could parse it again themselves
16:39:55 <oerjan> well that would break in @@ stuff.
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16:40:17 <oerjan> @echo
16:40:17 <lambdabot> echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo"]} target:#esoteric rest:""
16:40:32 <oerjan> @@ @show @echo
16:40:32 <lambdabot> "echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = \"freenode\", ircMsgLBName = \"lambdabot\", ircMsgPrefix = \"oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no\", ircMsgCommand = \"PRIVMSG\", ircMsgParams = [\"#esoteric\",\":@@ @show @echo\"]} target:#esoteric rest:\"\""
16:41:05 <oerjan> well, might be close enough.
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16:53:05 <SopaXorzTaker> What was the language where I could redefine literals called?
16:53:14 <SopaXorzTaker> LET 2 = 3
16:53:20 <SopaXorzTaker> > 2+2
16:53:22 <lambdabot> 4
16:53:22 <oerjan> FORTE
16:53:22 <SopaXorzTaker> 6
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16:53:44 <SopaXorzTaker> oerjan, thanks
16:54:16 <oerjan> you're welcome
17:06:45 <quintopia> got it in 1101 heads
17:07:04 <quintopia> a few missteps. haven't got the strategy yet.
17:08:38 <quintopia> why doesnt that page give a proof? i've never seen a proof involving a hydra with dire heads.
17:09:26 <oerjan> i don't know either
17:11:31 <oerjan> i assume you have to define an ordinal for branches somehow.
17:16:48 <lynn> GolfScript famously lets you do that, too
17:17:32 <lynn> "3:2;" and then "2 2+" prints 6
17:18:36 <myname> quintopia: maybe there's a bachelor thesis for someone
17:19:54 <b_jonas> quintopia: which page?
17:20:13 <b_jonas> SopaXorzTaker: some dialects of FORTRAN I think
17:22:04 <oerjan> yay oldest branch finally got some pruning. which increased its direness, but anyway.
17:22:21 <oerjan> (~ 56000 cuts)
17:22:38 <int-e> oerjan: with the leftmost strategy?
17:22:39 <myname> i didn't get it in the first place
17:22:41 <oerjan> myname: surely it's a known result
17:22:52 <oerjan> int-e: the automatic one, yeah
17:23:04 <myname> i randonly clicked anywhere and made exactly one initial change
17:26:45 <int-e> nice to see some framework-free javascript code...
17:27:01 <int-e> (on the hydra page)
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17:28:32 <b_jonas> int-e: I think most of David's javascript toys (he has quite a few) are like that
17:29:10 <rntz> gah
17:29:13 <rntz> ... wrong channel
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17:30:33 <int-e> hmm, maybe I should make an svg version of http://int-e.eu/~bf3/squares/view.html :)\
17:32:10 <int-e> and maybe a version that uses the history less aggressively, hmm
17:33:04 <b_jonas> int-e: hmm, what's that?
17:33:48 <int-e> b_jonas: there's a "back" link at the top with explanations... it's about tiling rectangles with the minimum number of squares.
17:34:01 <int-e> or rather, browsing the tilings.
17:34:08 <b_jonas> int-e: I see
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17:36:21 <LKoen> quintopia: 876 heads cut off in my first try
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17:36:43 <LKoen> apparently a normal head segment should only be cut if it's a top depth
17:38:56 <b_jonas> int-e: wait, when you say "Ed Pegg provided results up to n,m ≤ 160!" then the exclamation mark doesn't denote a factorial, right?
17:39:24 <b_jonas> I guess it can't, because there are much smaller numbers than factorial(160) in the next lines
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17:41:27 <rntz> > x
17:41:28 <lambdabot> x
17:41:32 <rntz> whaet
17:41:37 <rntz> > x + y^2
17:41:39 <lambdabot> x + y * y
17:41:48 <rntz> > print 13
17:41:49 <lambdabot> <IO ()>
17:41:55 <FireFly> Heh
17:42:07 <rntz> > help
17:42:09 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘help’
17:42:21 <rntz> > help + unhelp^2
17:42:22 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘help’Not in scope: ‘unhelp’
17:42:28 <rntz> > w
17:42:30 <lambdabot> w
17:42:33 <rntz> > t
17:42:35 <lambdabot> t
17:42:36 <rntz> > th
17:42:37 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘th’
17:42:37 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant one of these:
17:42:37 <lambdabot> ‘h’ (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect),
17:42:38 <oerjan> @help
17:42:38 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
17:44:34 <oerjan> rntz: the single letters have been defined as a kind of symbols, but there's no real symbolic arithmetic.
17:44:55 <rntz> > 2^x
17:45:02 <lambdabot> mueval: ExitFailure 1
17:45:06 <rntz> c.c
17:45:11 <rntz> @help mueval
17:45:11 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
17:45:14 <b_jonas> > text "help" + text "unhelp" ^ 2
17:45:16 <lambdabot> No instance for (Num Doc) arising from a use of ‘+’
17:45:16 <lambdabot> In the expression: text "help" + text "unhelp" ^ 2
17:45:21 <b_jonas> > text "help" + text "unhelp"
17:45:22 <lambdabot> No instance for (Num Doc) arising from a use of ‘+’
17:45:22 <lambdabot> In the expression: text "help" + text "unhelp"
17:45:27 <b_jonas> > var "help" + var "unhelp"
17:45:28 <lambdabot> help + unhelp
17:45:30 <b_jonas> that, yes
17:45:33 <b_jonas> > var "help" + var "unhelp" ^ 2
17:45:35 <lambdabot> help + unhelp * unhelp
17:45:50 <b_jonas> > var "help" + var "unhelp" ^ var "exponential"
17:45:59 <lambdabot> mueval: ExitFailure 1
17:46:00 <b_jonas> > var "help" + var "unhelp" ^^ var "exponential"
17:46:09 <b_jonas> > var "help" + var "unhelp" ** var "real exponential"
17:46:09 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
17:46:10 <lambdabot> help + unhelp**real exponential
17:46:30 <oerjan> ^ doesn't work because it's not a method so cannot be defined sensibly for its right argument of Expr type
17:47:18 <oerjan> (it actually does arithmetic and comparisons to 0 or 1 that always fail, thus causing an infinite loop.)
17:47:26 <b_jonas> oerjan: right
17:47:33 <b_jonas> well, it does work in the sense of
17:47:50 <b_jonas> > var "one more than " ^ 9 + "one"
17:47:51 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Expr’ with actual type ‘[Char]’
17:47:51 <lambdabot> In the second argument of ‘(+)’, namely ‘"one"’
17:47:51 <lambdabot> In the expression: var "one more than " ^ 9 + "one"
17:47:56 <b_jonas> um
17:48:09 <oerjan> missed a var
17:48:14 <b_jonas> > (var "one more than ") ^ 9 + var "zero"
17:48:15 <lambdabot> one more than * one more than * (one more than * one more than ) * (one m...
17:48:52 <fizzie> > x^9
17:48:53 <lambdabot> x * x * (x * x) * (x * x * (x * x)) * x
17:49:05 <rntz> > x - x
17:49:06 <lambdabot> x - x
17:49:10 <rntz> > x - x == 0
17:49:11 <lambdabot> False
17:49:12 <fizzie> Interesting selection of parens there.
17:49:29 <b_jonas> > var"" ^ 15
17:49:30 <lambdabot> * * ( * ) * ( * * ( * )) * ( * * ( * ) * ( * * ))
17:49:31 <FireFly> Indeed, I was expecting a foldl or so but I guess it's slightly more clever
17:49:39 <oerjan> fizzie: it treats * as left associative
17:49:42 <oerjan> when printing
17:49:45 <rntz> > let a = x * a in a
17:49:46 <lambdabot> x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x * (x...
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17:50:06 <b_jonas> oerjan: which is good, because it is left associative
17:50:11 <oerjan> FireFly: it's a divide by 2 algorithm
17:50:25 <b_jonas> > var "y" ^ 9
17:50:26 <lambdabot> y * y * (y * y) * (y * y * (y * y)) * y
17:50:31 <oerjan> exponentiation by squaring
17:50:39 <FireFly> Makes sense
17:51:41 <fizzie> oerjan: Oh, so it's "really" just (((y * y) * (y * y)) * ((y * y) * (y * y))) * y?
17:51:50 <oerjan> fizzie: yeah
17:52:08 <oerjan> and the identical subexpressions are shared.
17:52:22 <oerjan> they're just not printed that way.
17:52:52 <oerjan> > 2+2 :: Expr
17:52:53 <lambdabot> 2 + 2
17:53:15 <oerjan> huh it doesn't even do arithmetic when they're actual number literals
17:53:33 <oerjan> > (0 :: Expr) == 0
17:53:34 <lambdabot> True
17:54:14 <oerjan> > var "0" == 0
17:54:15 <lambdabot> True
17:54:28 <oerjan> oh it's precisely textual comparison
17:54:50 <oerjan> > var "0" == 0.0
17:54:52 <lambdabot> False
17:55:12 <oerjan> > var "0.0" == 0.0
17:55:13 <lambdabot> True
17:55:35 <oerjan> > var "0.0" == 0 -- for completeness
17:55:36 <lambdabot> False
18:00:11 <rntz> > let x = show x in take 10 . map ((+1) . length) . filter (/= "\"") $ group x
18:00:13 <lambdabot> [2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
18:00:39 <shachaf> > a < -1
18:00:41 <lambdabot> True
18:00:43 <shachaf> > z < -1
18:00:44 <lambdabot> False
18:03:43 <oerjan> eek
18:03:49 <oerjan> > sort [-1,a,z]
18:03:50 <lambdabot> [a,negate 1,z]
18:03:55 <oerjan> oh
18:04:04 <shachaf> curses
18:04:15 <shachaf> you figured it out too quickly
18:04:15 <oerjan> *MWAHAHAHA*
18:06:08 <rntz> > --1
18:06:09 <lambdabot> <no location info>: not an expression: ‘--1’
18:06:12 <rntz> > - - 1
18:06:13 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:3: parse error on input ‘-’
18:06:16 <rntz> > - (-1)
18:06:18 <lambdabot> 1
18:06:23 <rntz> whaet
18:06:26 <rntz> > -1
18:06:28 <lambdabot> -1
18:06:31 <rntz> > negate 1
18:06:33 <lambdabot> -1
18:06:37 <rntz> > [-1]
18:06:38 <lambdabot> [-1]
18:06:42 <rntz> > [-1,a,z]
18:06:43 <lambdabot> [negate 1,a,z]
18:06:47 <rntz> what
18:06:50 <rntz> > [-1,a]
18:06:52 <lambdabot> [negate 1,a]
18:06:57 <oerjan> rntz: different type, actual Integers behave sensibly.
18:06:58 <rntz> hm
18:07:15 <oerjan> but a and z are of type Expr.
18:07:19 <rntz> oh, because ghc hard-codes defaults for literals
18:07:26 <rntz> as opposed to being like "which Num did you mean?"
18:07:39 <oerjan> rntz: no, that's not it
18:07:45 <rntz> ?
18:07:53 <oerjan> it does in fact depend on which Num you mean
18:07:59 <rntz> yes, that's what I mean
18:08:02 <oerjan> > (-1 :: Expr, -1 :: Integer)
18:08:04 <lambdabot> (negate 1,-1)
18:08:25 <rntz> yes, but if you don't specify a type it assumes Integer unless you say otherwise
18:08:32 <oerjan> right
18:08:32 <rntz> *unless* it has to unify with something else that isn't integer
18:09:03 <oerjan> there's a warning you can enable for it
18:11:30 <oerjan> rntz: also it's not hardcoded either, you can change which types are defaulted to.
18:11:44 <oerjan> it's just not very common afaik
18:12:10 <shachaf> The default default is hardcoded.
18:12:24 <oerjan> default (Complex Double, Ratio Int) should be a hit
18:12:57 <oerjan> wait, add Integer to the end.
18:13:55 <shachaf> copumpkin: hipumpkin
18:14:58 <oerjan> or wait, Ratio Int would probably never be chosen then.
18:15:04 <shachaf> rntz: You read _Stories of Your Life and Others_ by Chiang, right?
18:15:21 <shachaf> oerjan: Obviously CReal is the best choice.
18:15:27 <oerjan> tru
18:15:59 <oerjan> no wait, Ratio Int can be chosen when RealFrac is needed
18:16:00 <shachaf> It's even compatible with the FFI.
18:16:16 <int-e> b_jonas: It's an ordinary exclamation mark.
18:16:19 <shachaf> Which C type does it correspond to?
18:16:27 * oerjan swats shachaf across the channel -----###
18:17:16 <gamemanj> is this channel one-dimensional or two?
18:17:22 <gamemanj> (Or maybe even 4?)
18:17:25 <shachaf> in this channel, it's swat or be swatted
18:17:31 * gamemanj swats shachaf
18:17:35 <oerjan> `? #esoteric
18:17:45 <HackEgo> ​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts.
18:18:13 <gamemanj> "free-ranging moons"?
18:18:14 <oerjan> i think that implies at least 4.
18:18:33 <oerjan> including time.
18:18:48 <gamemanj> it implies there is time, and "north"
18:18:54 <oerjan> also digging.
18:19:02 <gamemanj> So 3 dimensions, including time
18:19:15 <oerjan> and a center.
18:19:27 <shachaf> oerjan: does #esoteric exist in minscowski space
18:19:37 <oerjan> i suppose it doesn't quite prove there's an east-west direction.
18:20:04 <gamemanj> I mean, you could imply it I guess based on that east/west would be the "default" for such things?
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18:20:12 <oerjan> of course, since it doesn't exist, it has all the dimensions you want.
18:21:16 <int-e> b_jonas: the reason was that he had the program running for months.. which surprised me at the time
18:21:54 <oerjan> afk until the evening sun sets below the neighbors
18:22:31 <shachaf> @time oerjan
18:22:31 <lambdabot> Local time for oerjan is Tue Jul 19 19:22:31 2016
18:23:54 <oerjan> it's particularly annoying now when it's right above the roof there
18:26:32 <quintopia> oerjan: re hydra: i suppose an optimal strategy must involve knowing what rules madore uses to "keep the screen from getting too cluttered". maybe strategies like getting the tree to take up as much horizontal space as possible at a height where it isn't too painful?
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18:31:47 <b_jonas> quintopia: for an optimal strategy, you might want to decide what your goal is at first. is your goal to kill the hydra fast because you're Hercules, or to kill the hydra without using automation so that king Eurystheus can't find an excuse, or to keep the hydra alive for as long as possible to find an apparent counterexample to the hydra theorem, etc?
18:35:09 <\oren\> is the symbol for the integer gird (between 3 and 4) in Unicode
18:35:12 <\oren\> ?
18:37:33 <Vorpal> b_jonas, this sounds interesting. How much chat log do I need to read to find out what the question is?
18:37:37 <Vorpal> Also hi
18:38:08 <Vorpal> Deewiant, there?
18:38:16 <b_jonas> Vorpal: pong,
18:38:49 <Deewiant> Vorpal: Yes.
18:39:23 <Vorpal> Deewiant, With regards to the calendar in DATE, it seems my code explicitly skips year 0. But you could aruge that astronomical date numbering (which includes year 0) should be used instead
18:39:28 <shachaf> @google madore hydra
18:39:29 <lambdabot> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
18:40:24 <shachaf> I was trying to remember who Madore was.
18:40:26 <b_jonas> Vorpal: I think it concerns David Madore's game http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml which is related to the Hydra theorem which is one of those often mentioned few examples of easily mentionable theorems provable in ZFC but known to be not provable in Peano Arithmetic,
18:40:36 <b_jonas> and is related to ordinals somehow.
18:40:38 <shachaf> But now I remember. Unlambda.
18:40:55 <b_jonas> shachaf: and more. I think I even added a page on esowiki listing him or something.
18:41:08 <Vorpal> Deewiant, I assume it is unspecified?
18:41:54 <b_jonas> shachaf: the recent interesting developments in this area about ordinals is https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/large-countable-ordinals-part-3/#comment-81550 , comments on John Baez's blog where Baez wrote three entries on topics very similar to what David had written about earlier,
18:42:46 <b_jonas> I'm still trying to untangle what happened in the comments there, because there are too few links, so it's not obvious which of David's articles are relevant
18:43:00 <int-e> chopping merrily away at a speed of 200 heads per second...
18:43:08 <Vorpal> Deewiant, I was also looking at handling negative julian day numbers, and that doesn't seem to work too well either. When it is less than about year -7000
18:43:29 <Deewiant> Vorpal: Mh. Given that it only says "Gregorian calendar is assumed for calendar dates" it seems unspecified, yes.
18:43:39 <Vorpal> Oh well
18:44:00 <Vorpal> DATE is an rcfunge one?
18:44:17 <int-e> Hmm I guess leftmost is not the most stupid thing one can do.
18:44:24 <Deewiant> Yes, DATE is from rcfunge.
18:44:35 <b_jonas> but at least http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html (about the hydra), http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html , http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2013-01-16.2104.grands-nombres.html , http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-09-18.1939.nombres-ordinaux-intro.html , http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-10-02.1946.html are relevant
18:44:58 <b_jonas> um, was that truncated? http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2013-01-16.2104.grands-nombres.html , http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-09-18.1939.nombres-ordinaux-intro.html , http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-10-02.1946.html are relevant
18:45:31 <shachaf> Now I feel like b_jonas has posted links to madore.org before.
18:45:32 <Vorpal> Deewiant, Yeah I hope I remember to fix it to use the same calendar in both directions before you get around to testing that though
18:45:38 <shachaf> But they were in French so I couldn't read them.
18:45:49 <b_jonas> and wait, I forgot the ordinal browser (whcih is linked from Baez's post already)
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18:46:11 <b_jonas> no wait, http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-10-02.1946.html is the ordinal browser
18:46:15 <b_jonas> shachaf: yes
18:46:28 <b_jonas> shachaf: http://esolangs.org/wiki/David_Madore
18:46:48 <shachaf> Yes.
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18:47:09 <b_jonas> shachaf: I'm a big fan of David Madore's blog really. I've been reading it for a very long time, but mind you, I haven't seen like half of it because that blog is OLD,
18:47:34 <b_jonas> and for a while it's on the top of one of my external links page http://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/grn on my homepage
18:47:55 <oerjan> quintopia: "getting the tree to take up as much horizontal space as possible at a height where it isn't too painful" sounds like about what i've been trying.
18:47:58 <Vorpal> Anyone know if there is any property based testing framework (quickcheck style that is) for C?
18:48:12 <Vorpal> I know there is one for C++ called rapidcheck, but for C I don't know of any
18:48:59 <shachaf> b_jonas: oh man
18:49:03 <shachaf> not sure about this disclaimer
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18:49:42 <b_jonas> And there are also at least two old articles on this topic that are probably completely superceded and that I probably didn't link
18:49:47 <b_jonas> It's complicated
18:50:13 <oerjan> <\oren\> is the symbol for the integer gird (between 3 and 4) in Unicode <-- yes, but good luck writing down its codepoint number hth
18:50:17 <b_jonas> He also has several useful maths articles on the blog that aren't connected to ordinals and infinity
18:50:34 <Vorpal> b_jonas, is the hydra problem solvable?
18:50:44 <shachaf> What's the hydra problem?
18:51:00 <Vorpal> shachaf, the one you linked
18:51:06 <Vorpal> <lambdabot> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
18:51:07 <shachaf> What's the problem?
18:51:17 <shachaf> The hydra always dies eventually, if that's what you mean.
18:51:22 <Vorpal> shachaf, defeating it? According to the title
18:51:25 <Vorpal> Ah okay
18:51:41 <shachaf> It says at the bottom of the page.
18:51:42 <b_jonas> Vorpal: solvable in what sense?
18:51:43 <Vorpal> I only fooled around a bit with it, and it just seemed to keep growing
18:51:53 <b_jonas> Vorpal: yes, it does that
18:52:04 <b_jonas> but it is a game that always ends in finite number of steps, no matter what you do
18:52:07 <shachaf> @google goodstein's theorem
18:52:14 <shachaf> Vorpal: hth
18:52:19 <b_jonas> shachaf: ah, that's what it's called
18:52:26 <Vorpal> Ah
18:52:37 <shachaf> It's not exactly the hydra but it's similar.
18:52:59 <b_jonas> rumour is, this is connected to how a descending sequence from naturals to ordinals is always eventually constant
18:53:08 <b_jonas> shachaf: but what's this about dire hydras?
18:53:22 <b_jonas> how are those different from non-dire hydras?
18:53:43 <b_jonas> (and are there werehydras, celestial and infernal hydras, giant hydras, half-elemental hydras, etc?)
18:53:53 <int-e> oerjan: have you seen the automatic strategy finish a hydra?
18:54:03 <b_jonas> AH!
18:54:10 <oerjan> <int-e> Hmm I guess leftmost is not the most stupid thing one can do. <-- it isn't?
18:54:19 <b_jonas> http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html is the actual entry for the hydra game!
18:54:26 <b_jonas> I've been looking for that for a while
18:55:17 <int-e> oerjan: not sure.
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18:55:36 <shachaf> b_jonas: But it's in French, and therefore meaningless.
18:56:16 <oerjan> <shachaf> But they were in French so I couldn't read them. <-- rings a bell.
18:56:24 <int-e> oerjan: it just seems that by strategically picking dire branches deep down the tree when the treep is deep should make things worse.
18:56:50 <int-e> oerjan: but I see that this would prevent those from being duplicated later. It's a tough question.
18:56:51 <shachaf> oerjan: It was something about Hebrew grammar, maybe?
18:57:04 <oerjan> as the sun sets, the (other) neighbors start up their subwoofer :(
18:57:49 <int-e> Anyway... The hydra currently has: 29 segments, 9 heads, and depth 7. Hercules has cut 175347 heads so far. ... still looking quite healthy.
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19:04:45 <oerjan> <int-e> oerjan: have you seen the automatic strategy finish a hydra? <-- not YET hth (it's currently paused at step 56888 although it _did_ make progress on the oldest dire branch around 56000.)
19:06:02 <oerjan> <b_jonas> how are those different from non-dire hydras? <-- i assume the latter don't have the dire segments from the game?
19:07:39 <oerjan> and also, without the dire segments the proof looks easy: just give a branch an ordinal equal to { sum(omega^ordinal b) | b child branch }
19:08:25 <oerjan> ("commutative" sum, i guess)
19:10:13 <oerjan> int-e: btw i haven't experimented much with trying to cut dire branches eagerly, so i'm not sure if that would actually be worse.
19:10:42 <oerjan> shachaf: no, it was about not reading madore blog links hth
19:11:31 <oerjan> (24 segments, 11 heads and depth 5 here btw)
19:13:26 <oerjan> i don't think those numbers are that important. i think the "ordinal" size of the oldest branch is what really determines progress, the rest is just temporary junk that _will_ disappear as long as there's enough of it.
19:13:36 <quintopia> cutting dire branches eagerly is p good, except that it ends up making tall tall green branches, which take forever to clear
19:14:55 <oerjan> i do suppose using more height means there's more room for junk, which would slow it down.
19:15:59 <oerjan> assuming madore's algorithm is about actual fitting into space somehow, rather than just total number of segments or the like.
19:16:36 <oerjan> hm and i should be going
19:17:05 <quintopia> if a bettor can bet, why can't a debtor debt?
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19:20:17 <\oren\> quintopia: because english is a crappy language that hopefully will die soon
19:21:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48933&oldid=48930 * Darkrifts * (+111) /* Arguments */
19:21:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48934&oldid=48933 * Darkrifts * (+12) /* Arguments */
19:21:53 <\oren\> I bet the programming languages and libraries with english naming schemes will outlive the spoken english language
19:22:14 <Vorpal> \oren\, oh? What language do you think will replace English?
19:22:43 <\oren\> Vorpal: whatever English evolves into.
19:22:57 <Vorpal> \oren\, and is there any indication that is ongoing currently?
19:23:42 <Vorpal> I highly doubt English in one way or another will go away any time soon. Going to take several generations.
19:24:57 <\oren\> The fact I can't really understand certain American English dialects, indicates that the spoken language is splitting
19:25:25 <Vorpal> Which sort of English do you speak then?
19:25:47 <\oren\> Canadian English.
19:25:51 <Vorpal> Ah
19:25:53 <shachaf> I think that if anything the language is unsplitting.
19:26:49 <\oren\> History seems to indicate that written languages can remain the same even after noone speaks their spoken version.
19:27:13 <Vorpal> I'm not a native speaker and I managed to understand most variants of English I came into contact with. Some are harder than others yes. I find Indian English especially difficult, and I have to deal with that (over video conference systems) at work.
19:27:29 <int-e> The hydra currently has: 34 segments, 10 heads, and depth 9. Hercules has cut 500325 heads so far. ... still going.
19:28:47 <shachaf> isn't it easily going to go to ackermann numbers
19:29:19 <shachaf> ackermann, ackermann, does whatever an acker cann
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19:29:43 <int-e> shachaf: I have not done any anlysis... for all I know this won't finish before the heat death of the universe
19:31:05 <int-e> ah the rightmost subtree changed.
19:32:07 <int-e> http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra.png "proof"
19:33:01 <int-e> (maybe oerjan can predict how long this will still last ;)
19:33:45 <int-e> re: "proof" - the only thing I changed in the html file is the interval timer (from 750 to 5 milliseconds)
19:34:53 <hppavilion[2]> nog wgah'n ph'nilgh'ri
19:35:10 <int-e> hppavilion[2]: what's up with the nick...
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19:35:38 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: Huh?
19:38:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48935&oldid=48934 * Darkrifts * (+1062) /* Documentation */
19:41:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48936&oldid=48935 * Darkrifts * (+159)
19:43:31 <shachaf> `olist 1045
19:43:45 <hppavilion[1]> hlirtenff: Cthuvian for "frenemy"
19:44:15 <HackEgo> olist 1045: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
19:44:52 <int-e> shachaf: actually since the tree size is more or less bounded (thanks to a "magic" probability), this implementation can only be exponential in that target tree size...
19:44:52 <shachaf> HackEgo: stop being so slow
19:45:28 <int-e> I wonder whether HackEgo being slow is HackEgo's fault or CoC's fault (they may be putting a lot of VMs on the same machine...)
19:45:53 <int-e> ah... I was waiting for this... touch: cannot touch ‘a’: Read-only file system
19:46:20 <int-e> (previously: [3193390.301619] Aborting journal on device dm-0-8.)
19:47:14 <Vorpal> int-e, that sounds really really bad?
19:47:51 <int-e> Vorpal: that's my usual experience with CaC (oops, sorry, bad typo/thinko there)
19:48:48 <int-e> (Call of Cthulhu really doesn't deserve to be confused with Cloud at Cost.)
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19:52:00 <int-e> let's see if it still boots :P
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19:52:30 <wob_jonas> oerjan: but, um, what's a "dire segment" then?
19:52:57 <int-e> it's explained on http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
19:53:18 <wob_jonas> ah, I see!
19:53:24 <wob_jonas> also, thanks for the olist
19:58:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48937&oldid=48936 * Darkrifts * (+301) /* Added section on errors */
20:04:00 <int-e> nice, it booted but the web server seems to have suffered... such fun...
20:07:06 <wob_jonas> what booted?
20:07:35 <int-e> ... http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
20:12:49 <Vorpal> int-e, Cloud at Cost? What is that
20:13:30 <Vorpal> Oh I see
20:13:32 <pikhq> Rather cheap VM host.
20:13:42 <Vorpal> One time fee? How on earth does that work
20:13:42 <shachaf> I suspect it's a lie.
20:13:53 <pikhq> Vorpal: Poorly.
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20:14:26 <Vorpal> pikhq, yeah especially given what I pay for a not-quite-lowest-end linode, that price as a one-time fee is insane
20:14:36 <Vorpal> Mind you, my linode is *rock solid*
20:14:40 <int-e> shachaf: well, they just don't buy any new hardware is what I think.
20:14:44 <shachaf> I should probably switch away from Linode.
20:14:51 <Vorpal> shachaf, from?
20:14:55 <int-e> also, they have NO abuse management whatsoever
20:14:58 <shachaf> Yes.
20:15:01 <Vorpal> shachaf, what is the issue with linode?
20:15:04 <wob_jonas> Is it one of those where you have a monthly cap of network use, if you transfer more data than that cap any month then you pay an expensive overuse fee, and there's no way to just ask in advance that you don't want to pay any fees so if you get close to the cap they should automatically shut off the network access or slow it down to very slow?
20:15:08 <shachaf> They have all these security issues, for one.
20:15:14 <int-e> no people involved (just a few developers) = cheap.
20:15:17 <Vorpal> shachaf, oh? I have not heard about that
20:15:34 <int-e> you get what you pay for, or perhaps a bit less ;)
20:15:35 <shachaf> I often hear negative things about them.
20:15:41 <Vorpal> int-e, still the electricity, IP block assignment and all other running costs?
20:16:01 <shachaf> "just a few developers" doesn't sound very cheap
20:16:03 <int-e> Vorpal: as long as they find new customers, they will pay for that
20:16:16 <Vorpal> int-e, that sounds like a pyramid scheme
20:16:19 <wob_jonas> int-e: oh, so it's a pyramid scheme
20:16:21 <int-e> Vorpal: and from I read their main business is a telco one.
20:16:23 <int-e> Vorpal: YES!
20:16:24 <wob_jonas> yes, what Vorpal says
20:16:31 <shachaf> I think it's just a Ponzi scheme.
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20:16:45 <pikhq> Yeah. I bought one a while back, but I have *not* been impressed.
20:16:46 <Vorpal> well okay, pyramid, ponzi, something like that
20:16:56 <wob_jonas> there's a difference?
20:17:04 <pikhq> Thank goodness it's not an ongoing cost?
20:17:09 <int-e> pikhq: I have... the QoS is soooo bad!
20:17:16 <Vorpal> shachaf, what better option is there to linode then? Same price class, same performance class
20:17:22 <shachaf> Do you get money for your referrals' referrals or something?
20:17:35 <int-e> The ongoing cost for this channel is that HackEgo is becoming increasingly slower.
20:17:36 <Vorpal> shachaf, I looked at one that seemed really nice, that fizzie used. Forgot the name of it. Until I realized the price was in euros
20:17:48 <shachaf> I'm not sure.
20:17:49 <int-e> (AFAIK it's on one of the CaC VMs)
20:17:51 <shachaf> Maybe Digital Ocean?
20:18:04 <shachaf> Or maybe AWS/Google Cloud/Microsoft Azure.
20:18:08 <shachaf> I don't remember how the pricing compares.
20:18:10 <Vorpal> shachaf, I heard shit things about DO
20:18:17 <pikhq> I wonder if there's a Raspberry Pi colo. That might be an upgrade. :P
20:18:22 <Vorpal> AWS or such is probably pretty good though
20:18:26 <FireFly> I'm on prgmr, they're pretty nice though I dunno how the pricing compares to other services
20:18:34 <shachaf> The reason I don't use Google Cloud is the free trial.
20:18:39 <Vorpal> pikhq, I heard of such a thing in Sweden. No space for external HDD. Also they sold out iirc
20:18:53 <Vorpal> shachaf, oh?
20:19:21 <Vorpal> Well prgmr has quite a spartan site don't they
20:20:06 <Vorpal> FireFly, seems slightly cheaper than linode from what I can see.
20:20:13 <Vorpal> is it KVM or Xen?
20:20:16 <FireFly> Xen
20:20:22 <shachaf> Vorpal: They give you $300 to spend on Google Cloud over 60 days.
20:20:24 <int-e> NICE. could not open mime types config file /etc/mime.types
20:20:31 <Vorpal> Ah, linode started switching from Xen to KVM recently
20:20:36 <shachaf> Vorpal: I don't want to squander it, so I haven't even started the trial.
20:20:41 <Vorpal> Ah
20:21:00 <shachaf> Vorpal: Which is a shame, because I want to use the plain old virtual machine service, which I don't really need a trial for.
20:21:10 <shachaf> What I'd want a trial for is all the fancy Google-specific services.
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20:21:17 <shachaf> So really they should let me activate the free trial whenever I want.
20:21:23 <Vorpal> Ah
20:21:30 <shachaf> In the end I'm not using it at all.
20:21:39 <shachaf> AWS and Azure have similar deals. :-(
20:21:50 <int-e> shachaf: where's the business sense in that? you'd be willing to pay them then...
20:21:59 <Vorpal> shachaf, anyway, so far I found linode to be really solid. And I guess you have as well?
20:22:02 <pikhq> Though, AWS's free trial is a year long and covers less.
20:22:04 <shachaf> int-e: What do you mean?
20:22:19 <shachaf> int-e: I'm willing to pay them now, for the boring service that everyone provides.
20:22:33 <int-e> shachaf: I'm suggesting that letting you start the free trial when you want would be bad for business.
20:22:54 <int-e> Or perhaps I'm speculating. Or joking. I haven't decided.
20:22:57 <shachaf> Well, setting it up such that I don't even sign up is also bad for business.
20:23:05 <shachaf> Or maybe I'm just unusual.
20:24:02 <Vorpal> shachaf, I thought googles cloud only provided rather unusual environments? Like just python "web apps". Or is that google app engine? which is different??
20:24:13 <wob_jonas> shachaf: what you're saying sort of makes sense. I mean, it doesn't matter whether it's the boring services or the interesting ones, but if you start the free trial but only use the *cheap* services and so you don't spend all $300 before the timeout, then that might be a waste in some sense
20:24:31 <shachaf> Vorpal: You might be thinking of an older version of App Engine.
20:24:35 <Vorpal> ah
20:24:46 <shachaf> Vorpal: I think they still have that but they also have a lot more services.
20:24:51 <Vorpal> shachaf, can you set up your own mail server there? Or do you need to use their SMTP sever?
20:25:03 <Vorpal> because that was one thing for me. I want to run my own mail
20:25:08 <shachaf> I don't know.
20:25:17 <shachaf> @google google cloud smtp
20:25:18 <lambdabot> https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail/
20:25:40 <shachaf> "Google Compute Engine does not allow outbound connections on ports 25, 465, and 587."
20:26:24 <alercah> that's a good thing hth
20:28:26 <Vorpal> shachaf, so not good for me then
20:28:44 <Vorpal> Since I run my own mail
20:29:04 <Vorpal> I specifically wanted to get away from google seeing it all through gmaik
20:29:06 <Vorpal> gmail*
20:29:47 <fizzie> 26.7 degrees inside. :/
20:30:09 <gamemanj> Vorpal: well, I tried running an email server on a home connection, and...:
20:30:18 <gamemanj> GMail accepts my mail but puts it in the spam folder
20:30:22 <gamemanj> Hotmail outright rejects it
20:30:27 <fizzie> Vorpal: So far, I've used prgmr.com, tilaa.com and digitalocean.com (in that order) for my VPSen.
20:30:32 <gamemanj> I think Yahoo does the same as GMail IIRC
20:30:35 <wob_jonas> Vorpal: couldn't you use someone else (not gmail, but not self-ran) as a mail provider?
20:30:37 <gamemanj> (but I'm not sure)
20:30:48 <Vorpal> gamemanj, right, which is why I have a proper VPS
20:31:32 <shachaf> @google aws smtp
20:31:33 <lambdabot> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/send-email-smtp.html
20:31:33 <lambdabot> Title: Using the Amazon SES SMTP Interface to Send Email - Amazon Simple Email Service
20:31:39 <Vorpal> wob_jonas, I want to be in control of my own mail. That was the point. Then I might as well pay for a VPS and run other stuff on it too. Since all free email providers obviously need to have some other way to make me a profit
20:31:46 <Vorpal> (i.e. profiling for ads)
20:31:50 <shachaf> Vorpal: What, you don't trust Gmail?
20:32:24 <Vorpal> shachaf, oh I trust they will deliver my mail and provide a solid service. Certainly. But it is free. How do they make a profit from it do you think?
20:32:31 <wob_jonas> Vorpal: some ISPs give you a mail server as a bonus if you pay for net access, isn't that an option for you?
20:32:52 <Vorpal> wob_jonas, sure, but those services are shittier than shitty
20:33:08 <Vorpal> I think it is like 20 MB limit, POP only, no IMAP
20:33:11 <shachaf> Vorpal: (I used to work at Google on the team that runs Gmail.)
20:33:12 <Vorpal> Nope!
20:33:31 <Vorpal> shachaf, okay. Then you probably know how they make money from it, and can't comment on it
20:33:41 <Vorpal> But I assume it is from targeted ads
20:34:02 <Vorpal> And even with ad blocking, that profile they build of you can be used elsewhere
20:34:53 <shachaf> I don't think I can say anything that isn't public. But it's not a great business mystery how it works.
20:35:05 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I don't completely trust GMail either. It's not really the ads, but that they're a big company that can decide at any time that they don't need me a user and ban my gmail account for any reason, for they can afford some false positives when they're trying to ban actually malicious accounts, and if they do so, I won't be able to do anything
20:35:05 <wob_jonas> to get that email address back. I need a *stable* email address, one that is likely to work even ten years from now,
20:35:42 <shachaf> wob_jonas: Good reasoning.
20:35:45 <fizzie> GMail gives me that nasty red lock icon for emails that I send from my own mail server, I really should figure that out.
20:36:06 <shachaf> fizzie: Do you want me to write you an extension that disables the nasty red lock?
20:36:07 <wob_jonas> not necessarily at the same server, but the same address should work. ambrus@math.bme.hu is that stable address, since if that server goes down, I know who I have to bribe or threaten to fix the server, or to point the domain elsewhere if they really don't want to run the server,
20:36:10 <fizzie> Because I thought I set up opportunistic TLS on it, yet it's all "zem.fi did not encrypt this message".
20:36:25 <fizzie> shachaf: I'd rather just have it speak TLS to Google servers.
20:36:26 <Vorpal> fizzie, I believe that is due to lack of SSL
20:36:40 <shachaf> wob_jonas: whoa whoa whoa, is that your name?
20:36:57 <wob_jonas> and also think that even without me doing anything, it's very likely that mail on that domain will be served for a long time in some way, due to other more important people having their mail there.
20:37:02 <wob_jonas> shachaf: yes
20:37:10 <Vorpal> fizzie, set up so your server prefers sending and receiving to/from other servers with SSL when possible (opportunistic encryption)
20:37:23 <fizzie> Vorpal: <fizzie> Because I thought I set up opportunistic TLS on it, yet it's all "zem.fi did not encrypt this message".
20:37:23 <Vorpal> Oh yeah you said that below
20:37:35 <Vorpal> fizzie, and I just found that line :P
20:37:48 <Vorpal> fizzie, postfix?
20:37:51 <fizzie> Possibly I just misconfigured it. Maybe it lacks root CAs or something.
20:38:00 <fizzie> Yes.
20:38:03 <shachaf> fizzie: just use end-to-end encryption hth
20:38:12 <fizzie> I'm sure it's something simple, I just never remember to look into it.
20:38:53 <fizzie> My university gave me a "forever" alumnus email forwarding address.
20:39:03 <Vorpal> fizzie, something like this should work, replace your certificate paths of course http://termbin.com/ets2
20:39:07 <Vorpal> fizzie, in main.cf
20:39:16 <shachaf> I should switch my email address to a custom domain name instead of gmail.com
20:39:21 <shachaf> But I haven't decided which domain name.
20:39:23 <wob_jonas> So anyway, I do use gmail, but I give a non-gmail email address anywhere I want a future-stable address.
20:39:25 <Vorpal> I think there needs to be a few lines in master.cf as well
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20:40:06 <fizzie> (Foodtime.)
20:40:13 <shachaf> @time fizzie
20:40:13 <lambdabot> Local time for fizzie is Tue Jul 19 20:40:13 2016
20:40:29 <shachaf> tizzie
20:40:43 <fizzie> Vorpal: Oh, by the way -- I changed the esolangs.org captcha to be Befunge instead of brainfuck.
20:41:16 <shachaf> `? vorpal
20:41:18 <Vorpal> fizzie, http://termbin.com/ujog is from master.cf. The only relevant line I could see
20:41:22 <Vorpal> fizzie, oh?
20:41:26 <HackEgo> Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones.
20:42:09 <Vorpal> Hm though that line appears to be about client to server
20:42:13 <Vorpal> Not server to server
20:42:17 <Vorpal> So may not be relevant
20:42:27 <fizzie> Vorpal: Here's a description I wrote for someone else: It shows you a string of the form 9NNNNNNNNN>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ (where each N is a random base-9 digit) and asks you to provide the number a Befunge interpreter would output when given that.
20:42:39 <wob_jonas> Most of the mail to my main gmail address is public mailing lists by the way.
20:42:51 <Vorpal> Heh
20:43:10 <shachaf> FireFly gave me a Befunge puzzle.
20:43:55 <FireFly> oh, right
20:44:16 <FireFly> was it hard?
20:44:24 <Vorpal> fizzie, any recent panorams btw?
20:44:28 <shachaf> Not very. But it was slightly harder than you implied.
20:45:14 <wob_jonas> fizzie: whoa, I can't read Befunge, I have no idea what those things mean...
20:45:33 <wob_jonas> I think # is a trampoline, but what the heck are those backslashes?
20:46:13 <Vorpal> wob_jonas, swap top items on stack
20:46:16 <Vorpal> I think
20:46:25 <Vorpal> been so long since I wrote a befunge interpreter
20:46:39 <wob_jonas> I was wondering if it's a mirror, but that wouldn't make sense there
20:46:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48939&oldid=48938 * Darkrifts * (+94) /* Errors */
20:47:39 <Vorpal> wob_jonas, befunge doesn't have those. It does have handle bars though for turning. [ and ]
20:47:55 <fizzie> Funge-98 has those. Befunge-93 doesn't.
20:48:01 <Vorpal> Oh. True
20:48:03 <fizzie> wob_jonas: Backslash is a swap, yes.
20:48:05 <wob_jonas> I see
20:48:21 <shachaf> FireFly: HireyFly
20:48:25 <FireFly> hachaf
20:48:34 <shachaf> did you invent any good maths lately
20:48:41 <fizzie> The >\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ part is essentially right swap jump plus dup jump mul 9 sub jump swap if drop print exit.
20:48:51 <wob_jonas> and guessing from the > and the trampolines there's probably a loop there that runs both left and right, oscillating
20:48:58 <fizzie> Where "if" goes right if 0, left otherwise.
20:49:00 <wob_jonas> but I don't know which part turns back
20:49:04 <fizzie> It's the _.
20:49:19 <shachaf> `? befunge
20:49:20 <HackEgo> befunge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:49:31 <shachaf> `? funge
20:49:31 <HackEgo> funge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:49:32 <FireFly> shachaf: I haven't mathsed at all recently, to be honest
20:49:36 <Vorpal> fizzie, wait a second... Isn't that program just going to ouput 0 and exit in the end? I see no output instruction prior to the _$.@
20:49:40 <fizzie> >..._ is the traditional oneliner loop, with judicious use of #s when you need to do different things in different directions.
20:49:49 <wob_jonas> I see
20:49:51 <fizzie> Vorpal: Why would it output 0?
20:49:54 <shachaf> FireFly: what did you invent recently
20:50:13 <FireFly> Hm
20:50:31 <FireFly> I can't think of anything
20:50:39 <shachaf> did you invent any cute cat pictures maybe
20:50:47 <Vorpal> fizzie, Hm... Where is the output decimal except right before the @?
20:50:53 <FireFly> I didn't; that's more zgrep's department
20:51:07 <fizzie> Vorpal: Nowhere else, but the top of stack is not 0 at the .
20:51:11 <Vorpal> Oh wait I see now. Because it checks if there is a swapped \
20:51:18 <shachaf> zgrep: please provide kitten pics twh
20:51:29 <zgrep> shachaf: zgrep.org/cats.html
20:51:44 <wob_jonas> what...
20:51:53 <zgrep> hint: click space, also try the arrow keys if you want to
20:51:53 <fizzie> (It's just a base-9-to-base-10 converter, essentially.)
20:52:03 <Vorpal> Ah
20:52:44 <wob_jonas> fizzie: yes, I guess it's something like that, but does it also take a 9's complement for converting, or is that only for checking the 9 at the bottom?
20:52:50 <shachaf> zgrep: Seems like a nonobvious UI.
20:53:02 <shachaf> zgrep: You should add a spot of text to it that says how to use it.
20:53:20 <zgrep> shachaf: But then there will be a spot of text that says how to use it.
20:53:32 <shachaf> Sure, but it can disappear after you press space.
20:53:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48940&oldid=48939 * Darkrifts * (+428) /* Added section on creating for-like constructs */
20:53:54 <FireFly> shachaf: I did find a silly bug yesterday, does that count as an invention
20:54:10 <FireFly> Actually I had already found the same bug elsewere before
20:54:15 <FireFly> elsewhere, even
20:54:17 <shachaf> FireFly: yes hth
20:54:33 <shachaf> was the bug that a program crashed on argc==0
20:54:40 <zgrep> shachaf: But that takes effort... I'm spending my effort on doing everything else that I'm doing right now.
20:55:17 <wob_jonas> that's so specific
20:55:19 <shachaf> zgrep: cats are so good though
20:55:28 <zgrep> shachaf: cats are better than instructions
20:55:28 <FireFly> No, the bug is that all innocents on Foresight items in Disgaea PC are level 1
20:56:08 <wob_jonas> whoa, game terms
20:56:14 <FireFly> Turns out it's because the item description field in one of the data files exceeds the width that the field is supposed to be
20:56:36 <FireFly> so it overwrote the next column with (string-terminating) 0, which isn't even a legal value for that column
20:57:18 <Vorpal> FireFly, I concur with wob_jonas here, you need to give some context?
20:57:19 <FireFly> The PSP port of the game had a similar bug, but even worse because the bytes that went in the column were part of the text string.. which caused even weirder behaviour
20:57:29 <FireFly> well
20:57:32 <shachaf> zgrep: what if it showed more than one cat at a time
20:57:32 <FireFly> Just a moment
20:57:37 <Vorpal> FireFly, what is this game
20:57:48 <shachaf> @google disgaea
20:57:49 <lambdabot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgaea
20:58:01 <zgrep> shachaf: Feel free to make thy own ui. It just grabs a URL from zgrep.org/cats . :P
20:58:02 <shachaf> Oops, was that rude?
20:58:08 <shachaf> Sorry.
20:58:12 <Vorpal> ah, tactical RPG. It makes very slightly more sense now
20:58:20 <zgrep> s/a U/the U/
20:59:02 <FireFly> https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/710549067089252352 the "Rank" column is supposed to only take on values in [1..42]
20:59:18 <FireFly> (This is the older of the bugs)
21:00:07 <FireFly> It's.. um, well
21:00:44 <FireFly> I'm not sure if it'd be interesting to explain how it misbehaves since it essentially just boils down to numbers being off-the-charts
21:02:09 <FireFly> Anyway, you can see how the item description is cut off and the fields after it seem to have fishy values
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21:02:43 <wob_jonas> `assemble
21:02:45 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: assemble: not found
21:05:31 <wob_jonas> wait wait
21:05:52 <wob_jonas> did Primal Clay change at some point, and if so, was it a functional change?
21:05:57 <wob_jonas> let me check Yawgatog's archive
21:08:07 <fizzie> I heard there's a cat-collecting easter egg in N.
21:10:29 <gamemanj> ...is that supposed to be an attempt to addict me to a game involving a ninja
21:10:33 <gamemanj> or do I have the wrong N
21:10:38 <fizzie> Where I come from, uppercase single letters are always Android releases if at all possible given the context.
21:10:49 <fizzie> http://www.androidcentral.com/android-70-nougat-developer-preview-5-actually-comes-awesome-easter-egg
21:11:03 <gamemanj> oh, they ran out of food
21:11:15 <gamemanj> or not...???
21:11:29 <fizzie> It's "Nougat".
21:11:41 <wob_jonas> The change I'm looking for was at Shadowmoor.
21:12:09 <gamemanj> why are they using letters
21:12:16 <wob_jonas> But the bulletin totally doesn't explain anything.
21:12:22 <gamemanj> the food makes people hungrier for the releases...
21:12:33 <fizzie> Because the name isn't made public until pretty late.
21:12:39 <wob_jonas> Is it no longer an effect that changes the copiable values?
21:12:56 <gamemanj> What happens when they reach "Z"?
21:13:01 <gamemanj> They'll run out of foodstuffs.
21:13:21 <fizzie> Android Zucchini, very tasty.
21:13:55 <fizzie> Maybe it'll wrap. Did Ubuntu already run out?
21:14:01 <wob_jonas> As in, what happens now if you Cytoshape from Primal Clay as the template?
21:14:18 <fizzie> Apparently they're at Yakkety Yak now.
21:14:47 <fizzie> Or will be, for 16.10.
21:14:49 <fizzie> So they still have Z for the 17.04 release, but then they're out.
21:15:09 <wob_jonas> "Yakkety"? Seriously?
21:15:45 <wob_jonas> Maybe they'll use letters other than ascii ones.
21:15:56 <wob_jonas> Or they'll follow with a left square bracket.
21:16:48 <FireFly> gamemanj: the N game is good too, though
21:17:31 <Vorpal> <wob_jonas> "Yakkety"? Seriously? <-- is that a real word??
21:17:52 <fizzie> Not according to WordNet. But I'm sure it's colloquial.
21:18:28 <fizzie> I've missed all these recent ones. Utopic Unicorn, Vivid Vervet, Wily Werewolf, Xenial Xerus.
21:19:17 <Vorpal> fizzie, well since I go on LTS I miss most of them
21:19:26 <wob_jonas> How big is the Toy Story franchise? How long till Debian runs out of release codenames?
21:22:57 <Vorpal> oh, interesting point
21:24:15 * gamemanj prepares a thwomp in front of firefly, and waits anxiously with a button...
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21:24:40 <FireFly> That seems a bit overkill
21:24:50 <FireFly> oerjan usually sticks to a good ol' swatter
21:24:58 <gamemanj> swatters are boring
21:25:10 <shachaf> Did you play "Spider and Web"?
21:25:11 <gamemanj> if you're going to turn someone into a flattened mess, you have to do it with class!
21:25:13 <shachaf> That's a pretty good game.
21:26:04 <\oren\> I prefer to use an electric racket to kill bugs
21:26:24 <\oren\> much less messy
21:26:50 <\oren\> and you don't have to wait till they land on something
21:27:21 <fizzie> wob_jonas: The Pixar wiki "Toy Story Characters" category has 58 pages, though some are groups, and some aren't really that suitable for code names.
21:27:32 * gamemanj gives the thwomp button to FireFly
21:27:35 <fizzie> wob_jonas: Thought I'd certainly install Debian Woman on Pizza Planet P.A. system.
21:27:37 <gamemanj> FireFly: Hold this for a sec
21:27:47 * gamemanj then puts a sign in front of the Thwomp, saying "firefly food here"
21:28:13 <fizzie> (And that category is for the first film alone, I think.)
21:28:25 * FireFly buzzes toward the supposed firefly food
21:29:06 <gamemanj> * The thwomp activates on it's own because someone wasn't keeping the button deactivated, and gamemanj is thwomped. FireFly manages to escape.
21:29:24 <FireFly> phew
21:29:24 <wob_jonas> fizzie: I see
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21:30:00 <gamemanj> (the intention was that FireFly would press the button and thus doom me...)
21:30:05 <shachaf> FireFly: did you play that game
21:30:06 <FireFly> Ah
21:30:10 <FireFly> N?
21:30:12 <FireFly> Yes
21:30:14 <shachaf> or fizzie
21:30:16 <wob_jonas> fizzie: so when they get close to exhausting that, they can start collecting money to pay for some new supplementary novels or something (new novels are cheaper than feature films)
21:30:19 <shachaf> fi*
21:30:21 <Vorpal> FireFly, what game is that
21:30:30 <FireFly> Old flash platformer game thing
21:30:41 <shachaf> What?
21:30:55 <Vorpal> Oh, sounds vaguely familiar now
21:30:56 <FireFly> Or did you mean Disgaea?
21:31:01 <Vorpal> FireFly, isn't there an N+?
21:31:02 <FireFly> I've played that too
21:31:04 <Vorpal> On steam
21:31:07 <Vorpal> or something
21:31:09 <FireFly> Dunno
21:31:09 <Vorpal> Or N++
21:31:14 <FireFly> I've only played the original
21:31:30 <FireFly> http://www.freewarefiles.com/screenshot/N.jpg looks approximately so
21:31:31 <Vorpal> Think there is a remake with more levels and such
21:31:41 <Vorpal> Remember seeing something about it maybe a year ago or so
21:31:50 <Vorpal> Yeah
21:31:55 <Vorpal> Like that but better looking
21:32:10 <Vorpal> FireFly, if you liked it, that might be worth checking out
21:32:26 <shachaf> FireFly: No, Spider and Web.
21:32:27 <FireFly> Hmm, maybe
21:32:35 <gamemanj> (as everybody knows, N++ is like N but with classes and templates.)
21:32:56 <Vorpal> FireFly, http://store.steampowered.com/app/230270/
21:32:57 <FireFly> shachaf: nope, hadn't heard of it before but it sounds a bit interesting
21:33:05 <Vorpal> May be available on GoG or similar, I have not checked
21:33:18 <shachaf> FireFly: It's TG.
21:33:24 <shachaf> And pretty short.
21:33:41 <shachaf> @google spider and web
21:33:42 <lambdabot> http://eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle/
21:33:42 <lambdabot> Title: Spider And Web
21:36:33 <wob_jonas> by the way, efnet/#mtgrules tells me that the Primal Clay ability still modifies the copiable values of the type, subtype, ability, p/t
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21:43:38 <int-e> there, this way (prefer the deepest head) the Hydra dies much faster... http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra.xhtml
21:46:22 <shachaf> Another way to make it die faster is to make the auto-clicked 7.5 times faster.
21:46:42 <shachaf> clicker
21:49:08 <int-e> and http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra2.xhtml is faster still.
21:49:33 <int-e> shachaf: did you pull that number out of your hat at random?
21:49:45 <wob_jonas> int-e: what's the difference? does it cheat?
21:50:04 <int-e> wob_jonas: no, it just uses a different strategy to select the heads to cut
21:50:14 <shachaf> int-e: No, I compared "autoInterval = window.setInterval(autoPlay,750);" with "autoInterval = window.setInterval(autoPlay,100);"
21:50:53 <int-e> shachaf: okay. it seemed a bit unlikely indeed :)
21:51:28 <wob_jonas> int-e: one sort of cheating strategy to defeat the hydra faster is to start by clicking on "Restart" until you get a short enough starting hydra
21:52:15 <int-e> meanwhile... The hydra currently has: 28 segments, 8 heads, and depth 7. Hercules has cut 1328805 heads so far.
21:52:29 <int-e> (that's the leftmost strategy still going at 200 chops per second)
21:53:29 <\oren\> Argh! I've forgotten English grammar!
21:53:56 <wob_jonas> \oren\: are you sure you have ever known it?
21:54:14 <\oren\> I just legit wrote "This a circular dependency isn't?"
21:55:20 <\oren\> it should have been "isn't this a circular dependency"
21:57:14 <\oren\> but it didn't even look wrong until after I sent the email
21:57:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48942&oldid=48941 * Darkrifts * (+245) /* Misc */
21:57:53 <gamemanj> package "isn't this a circular dependency?" depends on "circdep"
21:58:08 <gamemanj> package "circdep" depends on "isn't this a circular dependency?"
21:58:56 <wob_jonas> `? recursion
21:59:02 <HackEgo> You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW
21:59:14 <shachaf> `? corecursion
21:59:15 * \oren\ mutters to himself "english is never SOV, english is never SOV"
21:59:17 <HackEgo> corecursion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:59:41 <shachaf> \oren\: it never is
21:59:45 <pikhq> Except when it is.
21:59:56 <\oren\> that't SV with no O
22:01:00 <int-e> shachaf: I hope I didn't do anything too embarrassing in that Javascript code :)
22:01:43 <shachaf> int-e: I didn't read it.
22:01:47 <shachaf> Should I?
22:01:59 <int-e> no?
22:02:14 <shachaf> You can send me a CL if you want to.
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22:02:59 <int-e> `? CL
22:03:00 <HackEgo> CL? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:03:19 <int-e> computational logic, combinatory logic... I'm confused.
22:03:25 <int-e> checklist?
22:03:28 <shachaf> pikhq: Is there a general-purpose word for a CL?
22:03:46 <myname> computational linguistics
22:03:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48943&oldid=48942 * Darkrifts * (+235) /* Documentation */
22:04:07 <myname> capslock centiliter
22:04:39 <FireFly> Common Lisp?
22:04:49 <int-e> nice number: The hydra currently has: 0 segments, 0 heads, and depth 0. Hercules has cut 555 heads so far.
22:05:24 <shachaf> nice number: 16
22:05:36 <int-e> so smooth
22:05:53 <shachaf> int-e: It means "Change List". In this case a CL contains code to be reviewed before committing.
22:06:01 <shachaf> But it can also mean code that has already been reviewed and committed.
22:06:26 <wob_jonas> oh, a changelog
22:06:39 <shachaf> Not really.
22:09:06 <pikhq> shachaf: It matches somewhat to the git concept of "commit".
22:09:16 <shachaf> Somewhat.
22:09:28 <pikhq> Particularly as used in Linux kernel development.
22:09:39 <shachaf> But the concept of code review doesn't really exist in git in the same way.
22:09:41 <shachaf> At least on its own.
22:09:45 <pikhq> Yeah.
22:09:53 <shachaf> Which is a shame.
22:10:23 <shachaf> I didn't appreciate code review until I used Google's system.
22:10:25 <pikhq> Though to be fair, that particular bit isn't part of P4's CLs, just google3's.
22:10:27 <shachaf> Now I think it's essential.
22:10:43 <shachaf> pikhq: whoa whoa whoa, you mean google[redacted]'s
22:11:00 <pikhq> Nah, that much is public knowledge.
22:11:31 <shachaf> I guess it is now.
22:12:03 <wob_jonas> wait, both of you worked at google?
22:12:09 <pikhq> It already was. I saw the presentation that was approved by legal and given to a bunch of students at RIT.
22:12:11 <wob_jonas> I didn't know
22:12:12 <pikhq> wob_jonas: Yes.
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22:13:00 <wob_jonas> how many people here are known to have worked there?
22:13:10 <pikhq> 3 or 4, I think?
22:13:23 <shachaf> Do you count interns and contractors?
22:13:33 <shachaf> How about people who are no longer in this channel?
22:14:22 <wob_jonas> shachaf: dunno
22:17:20 <shachaf> hydraz: What do you make of int-e's strategy?
22:17:28 <wob_jonas> do we know whether any of you worked on the super-secret military or medicine industry research projects that are so secret that you're not even allowed to say you're working on them?
22:17:38 <shachaf> `welcome hydraz
22:17:42 <HackEgo> hydraz: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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22:17:58 <shachaf> wob_jonas: i can neither confirm nor deny htdnh
22:18:24 <hydraz> Whose stategy now?
22:18:39 <shachaf> oerjan: Hmm, I don't think I've seen "htdnh" in here before.
22:19:01 <shachaf> oerjan: Though it might be the most accurate of all the acronyms in that family.
22:19:06 <shachaf> hydraz: int-e
22:19:10 <shachaf> Bertram
22:19:38 <wob_jonas> strangely as a change I'm now working (not at google) on a project where the project itself is quite non-secret, so much that you can probably even find out what project it is with some clever internet searches
22:19:47 <wob_jonas> this is the first such project for a while
22:19:53 <wob_jonas> all the previous ones were much more secret
22:20:11 <wob_jonas> of course the details of this one are secret too, but not the project goals themselves
22:20:25 <shachaf> What is the project?
22:21:39 <wob_jonas> shachaf: just because I'm allowed to tell doesn't mean I want to tell
22:22:06 <shachaf> That sounds like a secret.
22:22:20 <myname> http://www.nerdcore.de/2016/07/19/live-action-futurama-trailer/ wat
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22:25:44 <hydraz> The best way to kill a hydra is to flatten that tree into a list then kill it using foldr.
22:26:28 <wob_jonas> hydraz: yes, but that's not how Hercules kills the hydra
22:27:06 <hydraz> He traverses it depth-first parallely, I know.
22:27:17 <wob_jonas> hydraz: this time, Hercules wants a solution that king Euthingy accepts
22:27:45 <shachaf> The Indian variant of the legend is much worse.
22:28:06 <shachaf> that's why it's called hydrabad
22:28:27 <hydraz> I assume this Euthingy fella doesn't fork enough to see a parallel solution as acceptable?
22:30:21 <wob_jonas> Can the hydra dodge/evade?
22:30:38 <wob_jonas> Does it have invincibility frames?
22:30:49 <hydraz> Yes and I don't think so
22:34:30 <quintopia> hydrazello
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22:49:18 <wob_jonas> so http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml is the ordinary hydra, and http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml is the dire hydra
22:50:31 <int-e> the ordinary hydra looks so tame now...
22:51:07 * gamemanj cuddles the hydra~
22:51:11 <int-e> (well, one reason is that its depth doesn't increase)
22:51:45 <izabera> killed it in 99 steps
22:51:59 <gamemanj> poor hydra :(
22:52:07 <izabera> it's revenge time
22:52:18 <gamemanj> yes
22:52:19 <gamemanj> it is
22:52:28 * gamemanj gets out a head-removal device, and aims it in izabera's general direction
22:52:38 <izabera> D:
22:53:13 <gamemanj> You will pay for your crimes against the ** As gamemanj did not know, the device was aimed backwards. **
22:53:16 <wob_jonas> int-e: the gcd dragon is much tamer. That dragon is parametrized by two relative prime positive integers m and n. It starts with exactly one head. In each step, you can use an acid sword to cut off m heads (but only if the dragon has at least m head), or an ordinary sword to cut off one head, but in that case n+1 heads immediately grow (even if you
22:53:16 <wob_jonas> just cut off the last head).
22:54:33 <gamemanj> Well, on the other hand, at least it can never sustain >m heads.
22:56:40 <int-e> wob_jonas: ah, but the gcd dragon can survive an unskilled attack forever... the hydra can't.
22:57:00 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, that's true
22:57:03 <int-e> (assuming it has at least two heads initially)
23:10:19 <\oren\> When you cut a dire neck, that permanently decreases the number of possible consecutive dire necks.
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23:12:03 <\oren\> similarly, the regualr hydra without dire necks can never increase in height
23:12:14 <\oren\> this limits its growth
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23:14:50 <\oren\> Also, on the regualr hydra, the maximum number of heads attached to any node on the second highest level, can never be increased
23:16:39 <\oren\> so perhaps a good strategy would be to seek to ratchet down these invariants
23:17:33 <\oren\> attack the dire heads. attack heads with the most brothers first. attack the highest heads.
23:18:12 <wob_jonas> \oren\: I thought a good strategy would be to just look for a ready-made proof in articles referenced by http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html or http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html
23:19:34 <int-e> The leftmost hydra has survived 1.5 million chops... I stopped there.
23:19:54 <\oren\> yeah you need to attack highest heads
23:20:23 <int-e> yeah, I automated that (see above) and it works pretty well
23:24:36 <\oren\> the question is which rules should be evaluated first?
23:27:57 <\oren\> dire heads > highest heads > heads with most siblings?
23:28:16 <\oren\> highest heads > dire heads > heads with most siblings?
23:29:54 <int-e> my best attempt weighs dire edges by 2 and normal edges by 1 and takes the (leftmost) deepest one according to that measure... but mainly it's just easy to implement and slightly better than the version without weights.
23:31:43 <wob_jonas> int-e: just try forking the staet, deleting each head, playing the game from there recursively, see which one leads to the fastest completion of the game, and delete that head
23:32:03 <int-e> it's possible that the optimal strategy would start with creating a very wide subtree (which in Madore's implementation causes growth to become very much restricted) and then prune the rest before trimming that subtree
23:32:35 <int-e> wob_jonas: how about you implement that and come back here with the results?
23:33:08 * int-e needs to sleep... and anyway it's approaching the point where this is no longer fun.
23:33:30 <wob_jonas> hmm, are we on browsers where the javascript random function isn't cryptographically secure? what if you break that and roll until you believe the hydra will roll favorably for you
23:34:00 <int-e> wob_jonas: the code comes with its own random number generator... I guess you could peek at its state
23:34:05 <\oren\> the number of sibling dire heads can only indrease when you kill O-o=o heads
23:34:28 <int-e> but good night
23:34:39 <wob_jonas> yes, good night
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23:38:45 <\oren\> which imples that dire heads first might be the primary rule
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23:43:31 <\oren\> actually, you might want to kill the LOWEST dire heads first
23:43:43 <\oren\> they have the most potential
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23:50:11 <\oren\> yeah, something along the lines of computing the heads that are most dangerous and attakcing them
23:52:00 <Sgeo> I assumed the ping was for olist?
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00:44:46 <\oren\> the svn poltergeist strikes
00:45:10 <boily> he\\oren\. the Ghost in the Repository?
00:45:15 <boily> @massages-loud
00:45:15 <lambdabot> quintopia asked 5d 12m 19s ago: how goes the courging?
00:45:15 <lambdabot> Taneb said 4d 16h 14m 3s ago: I'm fairly sure I'm alive
00:45:25 <quintopia> hmm
00:45:33 <quintopia> has lambda been reset?
00:45:39 <\oren\> somehow checking out a new working copy and copying my changes over solved a bug
00:45:46 <quintopia> could have sworn you'd already received those massages
00:45:48 <boily> quinthellopia. no, I'm just not very esotericking as of lately hth
00:45:52 <quintopia> oh
00:46:02 <\oren\> yes, the ghost in the repository
00:46:40 <boily> quintopia: I definitely got yours, as I replied to it. I wasn't Tanebmessageacknowledged yet.
00:47:08 <\oren\> this is why i hate untracked files. my tgz "repositories" always track all files
00:47:38 <shachaf> Oh, you were the git h8r.
00:47:40 <shachaf> git is tg
00:49:40 <\oren\> well I have to say, at least git has a command to delete all untracked files
00:50:11 <boily> git clean -fd is fun :D
00:50:35 <\oren\> svn doesn't have any such command. instead you have to rm -rf project and then svn co "url" project
00:51:11 <\oren\> which caused a phantom bug to resolve itself
00:53:31 <\oren\> Untracked files is a stupid idea anyway
00:53:53 <\oren\> if your build process creates .o files or whatever, it should also delete them
00:54:20 <\oren\> or you should have a make clean type command to run before checkin
00:55:03 <boily> untracked files is nice.
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01:49:24 <\oren\> ok, now I've gotten home
01:49:48 <\oren\> time to work on my font
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02:44:59 <\oren\> you can track my progress in a new way: http://www.orenwatson.be/joyo-kyoiku.htm
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02:50:07 <quintopia> \oren\: are you having a hard time tracking your own progress?????????
02:50:18 <quintopia> gotta get other to track it for you now?
02:52:45 <\oren\> quintopia: well I was having trouble remebering what kanji I had already done
02:53:18 <\oren\> so I'm putting a list up on my website that I can look in
02:55:27 <\oren\> and more importantly which kanji I need to do
03:00:51 <pikhq> \oren\: I do hope you're targetting kanji that are reasonably used first.
03:01:20 <pikhq> Ah, so you are. Looks like you're targeting jōyō and kyōiku kanji first.
03:02:11 <\oren\> pikhq: I've covered all the kyoiku kanji from grades 1-6
03:02:39 <pikhq> Unfortunately, to cover real-world Japanes text you need most of the list, not just the first 6 grades.
03:03:24 <pikhq> (though I belive most of the most *frequent* kanji are grouped up in there)
03:03:48 <\oren\> yeah so I'm gonna do the rest of the Joyo, and then the ones for names, I forget what that list was called
03:04:23 <pikhq> Jinmeiyō.
03:05:53 <pikhq> With the jōyō + jinmeiyō you'll get tripped up on some literary text, but you'll *mostly* be fine.
03:07:35 <\oren\> eventually, not anytime soon, I'll try to do the simplified chinese characters... hopefully the chinese government has a list
03:09:07 <lifthrasiir> \oren\: probably you can start with IICore
03:09:23 <pikhq> Yeah, simplified Chinese characters are enumerated. IIRC the PRC has a list of Unicode codepoints that software in the country must support.
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04:47:36 <shachaf> What's the slowest-growing complexity of an algorithm you can come up with? Something slower than inverse Ackermann?
04:51:02 <izabera> log(inverse ackermann)
04:51:22 <shachaf> Am I going to have to go through the same thing here that I went through in the other channel?
04:51:30 <shachaf> 20:37 <shachaf> Do you have an algorithm with runtime that grows that slowly?
04:51:30 <shachaf> 20:38 <shachaf> I can add "non-contrived" to the question to avoid that kind of answer.
04:51:40 <izabera> i haven't read it in the other channel
04:51:51 <shachaf> 20:39 <shachaf> But I'd even be OK with a contrived answer if it was significantly slower than inverse Ackermann (not just something you make by composing inverse Ackermann composed with itself like that).
04:51:57 <shachaf> I know.
04:52:43 <shachaf> Oh, maybe you can do something with shelves.
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08:04:33 <izabera> i've been spamming a few channel with similar questions, and got no answer so far. why does this fail for floats? https://ideone.com/gcOipZ
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08:38:28 <Cale> izabera: Interesting, I'd expect it to have more instances of NO than that.
08:41:08 <shachaf> C type compatiblity is odd.
08:41:13 <shachaf> Apparently it's not transitive.
08:41:42 <Cale> I'm just reading that here: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Other-Builtins.html#index-g_t_005f_005fbuiltin_005ftypes_005fcompatible_005fp-4246
08:43:27 <Cale> http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/type#Compatible_types
08:43:28 <Cale> ...
08:43:50 <mitchs> is it the empty paramater lists causing the strangeness?
08:43:58 <Cale> I wonder if it's these caveats about default argument promotions
08:44:02 <Cale> yeah
08:44:07 <shachaf> I guess it has to do with -- yes, what Cale said.
08:44:37 <shachaf> C9x draft section 6.7.5.3
08:44:39 <mitchs> without the typo
08:46:17 <mitchs> (adding parameter const float a in nullfunfloat makes them all yes)
08:47:51 <shachaf> Oh, a float would get promoted to a double.
08:47:54 <izabera> yeah but i wanted a generic function pointer
08:48:24 <shachaf> This parameterless function declaration thing isn't something you should be using anyway.
08:48:27 <shachaf> It's scow.
08:48:32 <izabera> why?
08:49:05 <izabera> also i don't know what scow means
08:49:18 <izabera> `? scow
08:50:48 <HackEgo> Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
08:51:01 <shachaf> `cwlprits scow
08:51:30 <HackEgo> oerjan
08:52:01 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
08:52:15 <shachaf> void f(c) char c; { ... } isn't the same as void f(char c) { ... }?
08:52:25 <shachaf> According to http://stackoverflow.com/a/1255818
08:52:28 <shachaf> That's a big scow.
09:00:34 <mitchs> (changing the empty paramater lists to void causes the corresponding comparisons to fail)
09:01:00 <mitchs> damn it i did the typo again
09:02:14 <shachaf> is that how they spelled it at your alma mater
09:02:32 <shachaf> probably a direct pun on latin "mater" would have been better here
09:02:42 <shachaf> now i'm just making it look like i don't know latin
09:02:46 <shachaf> which i don't
09:02:59 <shachaf> but cultured people know a little bit of latin and act like they know even more than they do
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09:03:05 <shachaf> so i'm giving myself away here
09:03:21 <mitchs> ita vero
09:03:45 <shachaf> `welcome mitchs
09:04:01 <HackEgo> mitchs: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
09:04:56 <Taneb> I think I'm going to go through the category theory textbook I've had out of my uni's library for like two years and actually do the exercises
09:05:45 <shachaf> Which book?
09:06:03 <mitchs> thanks but this isn't my first time here
09:06:10 <Taneb> shachaf, it's called Categories
09:06:18 <Taneb> By a chap called Schubert
09:06:19 <shachaf> They all are.
09:06:49 <shachaf> Ah.
09:06:56 <shachaf> How much category theory do you know?
09:07:18 <Taneb> Well, I can get through chapter one and part of chapter two without any difficulties
09:08:19 <shachaf> Which chapters are those?
09:09:03 <Taneb> Chapter 1 is the definition of categories, isomorphisms, additive categories, and subcategories
09:09:32 <shachaf> Additive categories in chapter 1? Odd.
09:09:40 <Vorpal> <shachaf> void f(c) char c; { ... } isn't the same as void f(char c) { ... }? <-- no, the former promotes to int in parameter passing I believe
09:09:43 <Taneb> 2 is functors (covariant and contravariant), dual categories, bifunctors, and natural transformations
09:09:48 <shachaf> Vorpal: Right.
09:09:52 <Taneb> I can't get natural transformations in my head
09:10:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Spoon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48947&oldid=48932 * Rdebath * (+182) Just uploaded
09:10:31 <Vorpal> shachaf, why are you using K&R syntax though?
09:10:35 <Vorpal> There is a reason it is bad
09:10:43 <shachaf> Vorpal: I'm not, but I thought it was the same.
09:10:47 <Vorpal> Ah
09:10:54 <shachaf> I was going to use it as a prank in my next job interview that asked me to write C code.
09:11:16 <Vorpal> shachaf, K&R promotion rules still apply to varargs (i.e. printf(const char*, ...)
09:11:18 <Vorpal> )
09:11:21 <shachaf> Right.
09:11:34 <shachaf> Actually I think it's kind of elegant syntax in the C mindset of the world.
09:11:41 <Vorpal> Oh?
09:11:43 <shachaf> In the "declaration follows use" spirit.
09:11:52 <Vorpal> You lost me
09:13:02 <shachaf> You know, int (*f[3])() means that (*f[i])() is an int.
09:13:50 <shachaf> And so int f(x, y) char x; int y; { .... } means that f(x, y) is an int, whenever x is a char and y is an int.
09:13:56 <shachaf> At least, that was my theory
09:14:20 <shachaf> And "f(x, y)" actually looks like function call syntax as an expression, unlike f(char x, int y), which looks like a syntax error.
09:14:26 <shachaf> (As an expression.)
09:14:48 <Vorpal> Heh
09:14:49 <shachaf> Taneb: Categories were invented to talk about natural transformations.
09:15:47 <shachaf> The original paper that introduced categories is kind of funny to read in that respect.
09:17:40 <shachaf> Taneb: What do you mean by get them in your head?
09:19:13 <Taneb> Learn them to the point where they make sense intuitively to me
09:19:37 <shachaf> Aha.
09:19:44 <shachaf> There are a whole bunch of senses.
09:21:55 <shachaf> How about this sense: Take a very small category, like the category 3 with three objects and six arrows.
09:22:04 <shachaf> And look at functors : 3 -> Set
09:23:05 <shachaf> What are those?
09:23:59 <shachaf> Maybe you don't want this sort of thing right now.
09:25:14 <Taneb> I'm working through the exercises in the book to make sure I haven't missed anything and that everything is clear in my head
09:25:22 <Taneb> If once I've done that I'm still unsure, I'll get back to you
09:25:40 <shachaf> sgtm
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09:46:23 <fizzie> Oh, man: is it the old-style function definition syntax why we can't have braces optional in function definitions?
09:47:18 <fizzie> Because in all kinds of statements (if, for, switch, etc.) the body's just an arbitrary statement, but for functions it's always required to be a compound-statement.
09:55:34 <b_jonas> all mathematicians are crazy, but they're crazy in very different ways. I think it's a requirement for the profession.
09:55:54 <b_jonas> (all doctors are also crazy, mind you.)
09:56:37 <b_jonas> Also, it seems I was probably wrong yesterday. It seems it's not (yet) obvious to find out which project I'm working on for my job with some interenet searches.
10:02:42 <Vorpal> fizzie, We should make a version of C with indentation based syntax. Like python or haskell has
10:03:39 <shachaf> Haskell-style is better: It has a fairly straightforward translation to {}/; syntax.
10:03:48 <Vorpal> Hm I guess so
10:04:24 <fizzie> izabera: Despite what __builtin_types_compatible_p might say, I'm pretty sure calling nullfunX via the corresponding funX pointer is undefined.
10:04:35 <izabera> aww
10:04:46 <izabera> undefined as in it will work fine in gcc?
10:05:11 <Vorpal> izabera, undefined as in "that might depend on CPU architecture and calling convention"
10:05:15 <fizzie> Well, it won't work fine if the function is using the Windows stdcall calling convention.
10:05:17 <b_jonas> shachaf: python would have a fairly straightforward translation to {} style too, only it already uses curly braces for something else which is syntactically incompatible, so you'd need to use some ugly tokens instead
10:05:29 <fizzie> It won't even link, because the number of parameters (kinda-sorta) is part of the name mangling.
10:05:48 <b_jonas> shachaf: in fact, the language docs describes python syntax in terms of tokens including newline, indent, and dedent tokens.
10:05:48 <izabera> no name mangling in c so it's all good?
10:05:59 <fizzie> I mean the C name mangling.
10:06:01 <Vorpal> izabera, um, on Windows there is in C
10:06:02 <b_jonas> oh yes, python also uses semicolons in an incompatible way
10:06:11 <Vorpal> izabera, Also it will still crash during runtime there
10:06:36 <izabera> oooook this thing wouldn't work on windows anyway
10:06:54 <Vorpal> izabera, I would suggest just using nullfunc(int ignored1, int ignored2) instead if you don't care about the arguments in some cases
10:07:14 <fizzie> Okay, slight correction -- since it's a function pointer, the name mangling isn't necessarily an issue. But it should still crash and burn on runtime.
10:07:16 <Vorpal> izabera, anyway you are invoking undefined behaviour and it might break on some non-windows too
10:07:20 <b_jonas> the problem is sort of like in some BASIC dialects, where a colon separates statements, but an IF cond THEN ... has any number of colon-separated statements up to the end of line as its body
10:07:28 <b_jonas> so you can't just rewrite all newlines to colons
10:07:36 <Vorpal> izabera, better just to not do it that way
10:07:48 <shachaf> I do wish I could write nested one-liners in the Python REPL.
10:07:56 <b_jonas> (this is made worse by those dialects of basic that have two different IF-THEN syntaxen, the one-line and the block one)
10:08:54 <shachaf> do you pay taxen
10:09:11 <Vorpal> shachaf, I think ipython kind of allows that?
10:09:17 <b_jonas> Haskell is much better, because you can write everything with only braces and semicolons, without newlines or indents, and it's easy if you know what syntax tree you want to write, it's only sometimes hard to tell how braceless code you didn't write parses.
10:09:24 <Vorpal> shachaf, Or at least it handles enter presses much better
10:09:36 <fizzie> izabera: FWIW (since you mentioned a "generic function pointer"), any pointer-to-function can be safely converted to any other pointer-to-function (with a cast), as long as you convert it back for the call. So arguably anything (say void (*)(void)) can work as a generic function pointer in some sense.
10:09:41 <shachaf> I don't one to write multi-liners, though.
10:10:53 <fizzie> ("A pointer to a function of one type may be converted to a pointer to a function of another type and back again; the result shall compare equal to the original pointer. If a converted pointer is used to call a function whose type is not compatible with the referenced type, the behavior is undefined." C11 6.3.2.3p8)
10:11:41 <shachaf> fizzie: So why is it undefined behavior?
10:11:53 <b_jonas> fizzie: meh, those rules for pointer-to-function being convertible (and pointer-to-struct being not only convertible but also have the same representation) are just for efficiency. if you are a theorist, you can always just write typesafe code by allocating the right kind of pointer somewhere, and referencing it only indirectly when you don't know its type.
10:11:57 <shachaf> Those function types seem to be compatible.
10:14:27 <fizzie> shachaf: "For two function types to be compatible -- If one type has a parameter type list and the other type is specified by a function definition that contains a (possibly empty) identifier list, both shall agree in the number of parameters, --" (C11 6.7.6.3p15)
10:15:12 <fizzie> Here e.g. funint has a parameter type list, nullfunint is specified by a function definition that contains an (empty) identifier list, and they don't agree in the number of parameters.
10:15:22 <fizzie> So they can't be compatible.
10:15:56 <izabera> so you guys are saying that this thing may be slightly unportable https://arin.ga/oogx5Q/raw
10:16:25 <fizzie> With all that __builtin_crap, it's by nature unportable.
10:16:50 <izabera> that works in gcc and clang
10:17:00 <fizzie> And of course those are the only two compilers in the world.
10:17:31 <fizzie> Anyway, time(NULL) % 2 is unportable too.
10:17:33 <izabera> that's all the portability i care about for this thing
10:17:37 <izabera> oh come on
10:18:06 <fizzie> time_t can be any real type (actually even complex before C11), and the operands of % must be integer types (it's a constraint violation if not).
10:18:20 <izabera> that's really not important now -_-
10:18:34 <fizzie> Hey, you're the one who said "portable".
10:18:56 <izabera> i was talking about the you know what part
10:19:10 <mitchs> hey, don't knock imaginary time
10:19:37 <shachaf> Where's the original code?
10:19:47 <shachaf> Ah.
10:20:14 <shachaf> Because those are definitions, not declarations.
10:20:33 <shachaf> Or something. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place.
10:21:56 <shachaf> I was looking at "If one type has a parameter type list and the other type is specified by a function declarator that is not part of a function definition and that contains an empty identifier list, the parameter list shall not have an ellipsis terminator and the type of each parameter shall be compatible with the type that results from the application of the default argument promotions."
10:22:45 <fizzie> Yes. It would (probably) be okay to have a declaration of int blah(); and a function pointer of int (*p)(int a, int b) = blah; and then call p(1, 2) if the blah function actually did take two ints.
10:22:56 <fizzie> But here the corresponding definition is one which takes no parameters.
10:23:08 <b_jonas> eww, pre-ANSI style functions
10:23:13 <b_jonas> best to juts leave those alone
10:23:34 <shachaf> Those are great, for the reason I explained above.
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10:23:43 <shachaf> Except they don't work the way I thought, so that's scow.
10:23:46 <b_jonas> (unless you're like deliberately trying to do eso, of course)
10:23:52 <hppavilion[1]> In any other country, do people usually join the 1.60934 km high club?
10:24:57 <mitchs> only if they're 22.86cm nails fans
10:25:13 <izabera> ew
10:25:32 <izabera> it doesn't sound nearly as bad when it's in units i don't understand
10:25:56 <fizzie> izabera: Anyway, yes, it can be unportable. Even in gcc, for some contexts. (See https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html -mrtd: "Use a different function-calling convention, in which functions that take a fixed number of arguments return with the ret num instruction, which pops their arguments while returning. -- In addition, seriously incorrect code will ...
10:26:02 <fizzie> ... result if you call a function with too many arguments.")
10:26:41 <fizzie> It might be portable enough for your purposes.
10:27:08 <izabera> yay
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10:42:46 <b_jonas> `ping
10:43:30 <HackEgo> pong
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11:07:29 <Vorpal> shachaf, what do you mean with "scow"?
11:09:29 <Vorpal> fizzie,
11:09:36 <Vorpal> what about non-x86?
11:09:53 <Vorpal> What is the ARM and MIPS calling conventions?
11:10:33 <shachaf> Vorpal: "the scow of X" means something like "the worst speciment of X"
11:10:48 <Vorpal> shachaf, is that a common wording?
11:10:51 <Vorpal> izabera, oh and what is your end goal with all of this?
11:10:53 <shachaf> Not very.
11:11:13 <Vorpal> okay
11:11:26 <izabera> i don't like that question because then my end goal never seems importan enough
11:11:41 <Vorpal> oh?
11:12:14 <Vorpal> izabera, I'm just curious you are trying to do something this seemingly over-complicated (in addition to being non-portable)
11:12:46 <izabera> i just wanted to make a generic no-op function that i can assign to a function pointer
11:13:09 <Vorpal> Okay, for what purpose though? Or just as an exercise in and of itself?
11:13:11 <izabera> then i can just call the function with whatever argument and it will do nothing
11:17:42 <izabera> they sorta do it here https://github.com/9fans/plan9port/blob/master/src/cmd/dd.c but it's not at all generic
11:18:04 <izabera> their null and cnull functions do something very specific
11:18:12 <izabera> i just wanted some no-op
11:21:12 <izabera> i think it's a useful idea, and if one could just assign NULL to a function pointer and then call that function i'd use that
11:23:21 <Vorpal> izabera, yeah it sounds nice. Sadly I think C is the wrong language to do that portably. Also what about the return value? It only makes sense for functions returning void doesn't it
11:23:27 <Vorpal> I.e. functions with side effects
11:23:57 <izabera> my no ops just return 0
11:24:18 <Vorpal> izabera, what for a function returning a struct on the stack though?
11:24:19 <izabera> but yeah it's more useful if you don't care about the return value
11:24:32 <izabera> that's work in progress
11:25:19 <Vorpal> I think this would be easier in C++ actually, At least C++11 and later. Since then you could probably just use a lambda wherever to do this.
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12:07:19 <fizzie> Vorpal: The x86-32 stdcall one is the only widespread one I know of where extra arguments aren't silently ignored.
12:07:46 <fizzie> Possibly because variable-argument functions are inherently problematical for the callee clean-up scheme.
12:07:54 <fizzie> (And C is all about varargs.)
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12:50:54 <Vorpal> fizzie, I dispute that last statement
12:51:01 <Vorpal> I think it is a very small part of the language
12:51:50 <Vorpal> fizzie, what about various register based calling conventions?
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13:22:39 <fizzie> Well, it's all about varargs compared to some other languages, which don't have anything analogous.
13:23:00 <fizzie> As for register-based conventions, they all tend to have some sort of "rest are spilled on the stack" fallback.
13:25:07 <fizzie> Weird thought: it won't take that long until RFC numbers are going to need five digits.
13:30:05 <int-e> blasphemy... surely the right solution is to return some no longer useful RFC addresses to a pool from which they can be sold to the highest bidder.
13:31:35 <fizzie> Or move to a "RFD" prefix, it has a reasonably analogous expansion ("Request for Discussion").
13:31:46 <fizzie> And then up to RFE (Request for Elaboration), and so on.
13:33:55 <fizzie> In related news, I hadn't somehow realized Psyduck is water-type.
13:34:09 <fizzie> I mean, it makes sense (ducks and water), just somehow surprised me.
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13:39:49 <int-e> oh, *F*eedback. (I was wondering how much trouble "RFF" would be asking for but this is a quite natural word to use in this context)
13:41:21 <fizzie> Request for Gabble.
13:41:28 <fizzie> @wn gabble
13:41:33 <lambdabot> *** "gabble" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
13:41:33 <lambdabot> gabble
13:41:33 <lambdabot> n 1: rapid and indistinct speech [syn: {jabber}, {jabbering},
13:41:33 <lambdabot> {gabble}]
13:41:33 <lambdabot> v 1: speak (about unimportant matters) rapidly and incessantly
13:41:35 <lambdabot> [3 @more lines]
13:41:47 <fizzie> Maybe a little bit too on-the-nose?
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13:43:29 <fizzie> Request for Gossip, maybe.
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14:04:53 <Vorpal> <fizzie> In related news, I hadn't somehow realized Psyduck is water-type. <-- shouldn't it be flying/water
14:06:22 <Vorpal> bbiab
14:06:42 <zzo38> I don't think so, I think they can't fly?
14:06:46 <b_jonas> Vorpal: wait, "psy" but it's not psychic?
14:07:11 <Vorpal> Okay? Normal ducks can afaik
14:07:23 <Vorpal> b_jonas, good point too
14:07:33 <zzo38> Yes normal ducks can
14:07:45 <zzo38> Also, each pokemon cannot have more than two types anyways
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14:08:05 <b_jonas> zzo38: yes, so it shouldn't be flying
14:08:21 <Vorpal> Hm I think I have a weird systemd issue. Says "Started (null)" as the output during the boot at one point
14:09:24 <Vorpal> I should probably upgrade my PC to windows 10 before the end of the free upgrade period... It is on Windows 7
14:10:20 <Vorpal> Need to make a backup and such first
14:10:56 <fizzie> 9 more days.
14:11:17 <Vorpal> yeah
14:11:31 <Vorpal> fizzie: you upgraded yet? Any major issues?
14:12:02 <fizzie> I upgraded quite a while ago, but I haven't booted it in months.
14:12:15 <fizzie> Don't think I encountered any issues either, though.
14:13:02 <Vorpal> Hm
14:13:45 <fizzie> My wife's ThinkPad's bundled Lenovo crapware was a little bit dodgy post-upgrade, but I dare say the current versions are likely 10-tolerant. (The hard disk, on the other hand, apparently wasn't, since it broke; and she switched to Ubuntu at that point.)
14:14:19 <fizzie> (For the record, the drive broke a month or two after the upgrade, and very likely had nothing to do with it.)
14:15:12 <Vorpal> fizzie: right. I heard some people had issues with the software for Saitek X52 Pro, a throttle and joystick setup that I have
14:15:16 <Vorpal> So that is slightly worrying
14:16:21 <fizzie> I don't have any exotic hardware.
14:16:38 <Vorpal> Okay... so where are the rest of the backup hard drives? I only found the Linux backup HDD so far...
14:18:15 <Vorpal> Ah found it. Also found another thing I didn't think I had any more.
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14:40:57 <oerjan> tunes is not loading?
14:42:53 <ais523> oerjan: not for me either, but the server appears to have at least some activity
14:43:12 <oerjan> well clog is here...
14:43:41 <ais523> oerjan: re your lambdabot message, "article_text" is badly named
14:43:53 <oerjan> it actually means title?
14:43:57 <oerjan> ok then.
14:44:15 <ais523> oerjan: title without namespace
14:44:49 <b_jonas> ais523: I'm not sure if you're interested, but there's some recent discussion about mathematics and ordinals and stuff in the comment stuff of https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/large-countable-ordinals-part-3/ that you might want to look at
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14:45:53 <b_jonas> it is partly continued from the previous two parts of that blog entry
14:47:01 <ais523> b_jonas: not really interested, sorry
14:47:08 <b_jonas> ok
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14:51:19 <oerjan> hm looks like a tough guy, that high conservator.
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15:04:23 <int-e> oerjan: did you look at my hydra killing machine? I realize that the hydra is severely handicapped... but it's actually better than I hoped.
15:04:54 <oerjan> int-e: no. there are no logs at the moment tdnh
15:04:54 <int-e> (I mean http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra2.xhtml )
15:06:25 <fizzie> int-e: Thanks, now I've got that Ylvis "Jan Egeland" song stuck in my head.
15:06:40 <int-e> fizzie: What did I do?
15:06:45 <oerjan> hm i haven't heard that.
15:07:09 <fizzie> You said "hydra killing machine"; the song lyrics contain the words "peacekeeping machine".
15:07:14 <fizzie> I admit that's bit of a stretch.
15:08:00 <int-e> oh, lucky... The hydra currently has: 0 segments, 0 heads, and depth 0. Hercules has cut 74 heads so far.
15:08:02 <fizzie> oerjan: Oh, right, they're your countrymen.
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15:08:42 <b_jonas> int-e: is this the dire one or the hydra0 one? and did you reroll at the start for few starting segments?
15:09:02 <oerjan> i'm a bit nervous of opening the wrong kind of tab while doing the automatic hydra. sometimes my browser decides to crash tabs and reload because of what happens in unrelated ones.
15:09:20 <int-e> b_jonas: this is the dire thing, my hydra2.xhtml, automated strategy, I didn't check the initial depth.\
15:09:50 <int-e> oerjan: you might also like to know that I stopped the left-most hydra experiment after 1.5 Million chops.
15:09:56 <oerjan> gah.
15:09:58 <b_jonas> int-e: roll until you get a 11 high hydra :-) (or is that possible only with the non-dire one?)
15:10:35 <b_jonas> I think the dire one starts at most 8 hgih
15:11:13 <int-e> I've got a 10
15:12:32 <int-e> with this result: The hydra currently has: 0 segments, 0 heads, and depth 0. Hercules has cut 633 heads so far.
15:12:43 <\oren\> `unidecode لأ
15:12:52 <b_jonas> ncie
15:13:17 <HackEgo> ​[U+0644 ARABIC LETTER LAM] [U+0623 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH HAMZA ABOVE]
15:13:27 <\oren\> interesting...
15:14:20 <\oren\> it appears blank even though that letter is supported in my font
15:14:40 <oerjan> int-e: stop sabotaging my experiment with demotivating facts!
15:14:51 <\oren\> which implies that it's some contextual form that is blank
15:15:06 <int-e> oerjan: your time would be better spent on implementing your own chopping strategy in javascript!
15:15:30 <b_jonas> oerjan: can you just create multiple browser profiles, run them each separately (in separate browser processes), and run the hydra in a special one?
15:15:47 <b_jonas> oerjan: I run two browser processes because of a bad-behaved internal webpage I need to use
15:16:38 <b_jonas> it can be a bit tricky because firefox needs a magic incantation for this, but once you know the right incantation for your version of browser, it's not that hard
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15:16:58 <\oren\> how does arabic even work?
15:17:07 <oerjan> b_jonas: i use IE hth (idn)
15:17:10 <b_jonas> \oren\: ... it's complicated
15:17:29 <b_jonas> oerjan: I don't know how to do the same in most other browsers
15:18:16 <oerjan> once more, people are giving me advice that i've explicitly hinted i don't want. will they never learn?
15:19:26 <\oren\> Like, most of the letters seem to be connected ever since I added the contextual forms in Arabic Presentation Form-A
15:19:31 <int-e> oerjan: fwiw, it was intended to be unsolicited advice.
15:19:50 <\oren\> But some aren't
15:19:51 <int-e> oerjan: I receive a bit of that myself and it usually gets ignored.
15:20:19 <oerjan> yay
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15:24:11 <\oren\> Argh, which codepoints do I need?
15:25:12 <b_jonas> ah, I see!
15:26:09 <int-e> heh, http://unicode.scarfboy.com/ seems to display a random one by default
15:27:18 <int-e> http://unicode.scarfboy.com/?s=U%2b132E6 looks useful
15:27:40 <int-e> (for electrical engineering :-P)
15:34:18 <gamemanj> remember, people
15:34:26 <gamemanj> the egyptians invented the lightbulb: http://unicode.scarfboy.com/?s=U%2b132e9
15:35:07 <b_jonas> gamemanj: that's a pacifier, not a lightbulb
15:35:40 <gamemanj> That's what they want you to think... :)
15:38:58 <int-e> b_jonas: heh, I got a depth 12 seed... let's kill that.
15:40:02 <int-e> but perhaps it doesn't make any difference whether it's depth 9,10,11 or 12... the first few cuts will simply not result in any replication because that would make the hydra too deep.
15:40:12 <int-e> in fact, The hydra currently has: 0 segments, 0 heads, and depth 0. Hercules has cut 491 heads so far.
15:40:44 <b_jonas> int-e: depth 12 dire or non-dire?
15:41:09 <int-e> b_jonas: dire
15:41:17 <b_jonas> nice
15:41:18 <int-e> I'm not playing with the non-dire one at all
15:41:24 <b_jonas> I didn't know 12 was even possible
16:16:05 <quintopia> i ran the hydra for a while. it was making pretty good progress by the time it hit the 4k mark then vbox crashed and forced a reboot
16:16:55 <quintopia> i postulate that "leftmost head" may be the most (or nearly the most) pessimal chopping strategy
16:17:19 <ais523> what is this hydra thing?
16:17:19 <LKoen> "leftmost head" sounds pretty random
16:18:12 <quintopia> ais523: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
16:18:29 <ais523> thanks
16:19:55 <b_jonas> ais523: it's related to the ordinals I was talking about
16:20:06 <gamemanj> so in other news I think I just had a premonition of a future NetHack enemy...
16:20:29 <b_jonas> ais523: the description is at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html , and the games at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml and http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml
16:20:32 <ais523> DCSS has hydras, but they don't quite work like that
16:21:13 <b_jonas> ais523: does it have hydras with at most 7 heads?
16:21:18 <b_jonas> or even at most 6 heads?
16:21:40 <ais523> they cap out at 27, and grow 2 heads when you cut off 1 with a non-flaming edged weapon
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16:22:03 <b_jonas> ais523: waho... non-flaming? so acid doesn't help?
16:22:13 <b_jonas> oh, edged weapon only
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16:22:17 <gamemanj> so, not cute and cuddly then.
16:22:18 <b_jonas> so you can just club them to death
16:22:21 <b_jonas> although they'll eat you first
16:22:32 <b_jonas> ais523: does it also have water hydras?
16:23:01 <ais523> b_jonas: no
16:27:47 <oerjan> <quintopia> i postulate that "leftmost head" may be the most (or nearly the most) pessimal chopping strategy <-- my theory too
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16:32:31 <oerjan> it means you're nearly always cutting off the smallest branches, which means that when you finally get to a large branch, the result will be almost as large and have plenty of room to grow.
16:33:06 <ais523> I think optimal may be to cut off the head furthest from the root
16:33:23 <ais523> is leftmost equivalent to cutting off the head nearest to the root?
16:33:35 <oerjan> no.
16:34:05 <oerjan> because a dire cut can add height.
16:35:10 <oerjan> ais523: that may be optimal although i'm not sure whether it's _also_ worth it to avoid dire cuts in some circumstances (which i've been doing)
16:36:33 <ais523> well, I guess we can simplify it by saying that the hydra always makes 1 more than the minimum number of copies
16:36:48 <ais523> (I know that'd defeat the ordinals thing, but it'd make it possible to compare algos objectively)
16:37:22 <oerjan> ais523: note that the js version is _very_ much constrained by the restriction on how much total junk it'll allow.
16:37:37 <ais523> yes
16:37:47 <oerjan> without that, as i said, you'd probably not beat it in the lifetime of the universe.
16:39:16 <ais523> right, it hardly ever copies
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16:50:25 <oerjan> almost got to cut the oldest dire branch there...
16:51:29 <oerjan> i mean prune. still a y shape on top of it.
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17:12:32 <quintopia> 4155 and only one dire neck left
17:12:44 <quintopia> oh it just duplicated
17:12:50 <quintopia> triplicated i mean
17:14:29 <oerjan> quintopia: i got to that point _relatively_ fast too.
17:14:52 <oerjan> you need to look at how much is on top it, alas.
17:14:57 <oerjan> (i think)
17:15:15 <oerjan> *+of
17:15:59 <int-e> quintopia: this one, http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra.png still looked healthy a million chops later.
17:16:43 <int-e> even though it regularly cut all the wait to the rightmost subtree on level 2.
17:17:46 <oerjan> int-e: well my rightmost subtree on level 2 is much smaller than that.
17:17:52 <quintopia> int-e: mine is much further along than that. (it got lucky with no copies in the first 3 chops)
17:18:14 <oerjan> (at 74400 heads about now.)
17:19:43 <oerjan> well that's good.
17:23:21 <quintopia> 74400 heads? or cuts? i don't think the app can fit 74400 heads on screen, though it would be interesting to try and force it to
17:24:10 <oerjan> cuts
17:25:53 <oerjan> https://imgur.com/a/CKzBn
17:28:24 <ybden> Ooh, what's this?
17:28:57 <oerjan> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
17:29:01 <ybden> oerjan: thanks
17:32:03 <quintopia> oerjan: i think my rightmost subtree is even further than that. it's a dire at level 2, but above only three normals at level 3. that Y on yours could result in far more than that. hard to say though.
17:32:47 <oerjan> quintopia: i agree, that's at least a smaller "ordinal"
17:34:23 <oerjan> as in, it's easy to produce your shape by taking steps from mine
17:35:35 <quintopia> oerjan: https://imgur.com/a/iB9r1
17:36:09 <oerjan> as i thought.
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17:37:38 <oerjan> i need at least two cuts on my rightmost second level to get something like that.
17:38:06 <oerjan> i do expect that to take less than a million cuts, though.
17:38:29 <oerjan> hopefully less than 100000
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17:39:15 <gamemanj> this is an urgent appeal from the ESPEH (Esoteric Society for the Protection of Endangered Hydrae)
17:39:47 <gamemanj> hundreds of hydras are being slaughtered every day by merciless murderers who do it for the "fun of solving them"...
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17:40:34 <gamemanj> to save these poor, defenseless hydras, please donate just <currency> a month.
17:42:03 <quintopia> gamemanj: a hydra is like an anthill. it gets into your pantry and starts eating all your food, and any time you see a head, you squish it without thinking about it. but you really need poison to even make a dent in the hill
17:42:36 <gamemanj> nonsense
17:42:38 <quintopia> er...i got my simile confused with the thing it was symbolizing there
17:42:44 <quintopia> but you get the idea
17:42:50 <gamemanj> No, I don't
17:43:03 <gamemanj> people keep murdering these poor innocent hydrae, who can't even defend themselves
17:43:07 <quintopia> in any case, hydrae are pests and need to be killed as much as possible
17:43:31 <gamemanj> (also I love how my linguistic misinformation plan is working so well)
17:44:13 <gamemanj> (the best part is I wasn't even being consistent about it)
17:44:13 <quintopia> i read that xkcd too. i can knowingly participate in such pranx
17:44:47 <int-e> gamemanj: my impression is that they're grooming their hydras and eating the cut off heads.
17:45:08 <gamemanj> ...isn't that painful for the hydrae?
17:45:24 <int-e> The hydras don't feel pain.
17:45:49 <gamemanj> Have you read the Herzei Study On The Biology Of Hydrae?
17:46:26 <int-e> cf. http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/1993/04/03
17:47:08 <zzo38> I don't have any money called "<currency>".
17:47:15 <int-e> gamemanj: I have not, and I intend to keep it that way.
17:50:18 <quintopia> hydrae is actually an accepted plural of hydra
17:50:47 <quintopia> zzo38: would you donate it if you did?
17:51:07 <int-e> quintopia: But I don't care how you call hydras!
17:52:14 <quintopia> int-e: O KAY
17:53:33 <ybden> \o/ it's dead
17:53:51 <ybden> Took 1568 cuts
17:53:51 <quintopia> ybden: by hand? how many cuts?
17:53:53 <quintopia> ok
17:53:56 <ybden> quintopia: by hand
17:54:05 <quintopia> seems high for manual. strategy?
17:54:07 <zzo38> quintopia: If I had enough, and the stuff it is meant to donate for is valid, then I might.
17:54:30 <quintopia> oerjan: progress! only 2 above that rightmost dire now
17:55:40 <oerjan> yay
17:56:35 <gamemanj> if anyone wants the "how to donate <currency>" text I just sent to zzo38, ask :)
17:56:44 <gamemanj> (hint: it's not actually currency at all)
17:57:00 <oerjan> currently i don't want it.
18:00:39 <quintopia> this whole donation thing no longer has currency
18:00:51 <ybden> quintopia: It took a while for me to create a strategy. Just tried again with the strategy that I formed, took 403 cuts
18:01:03 <quintopia> ybden: what is i
18:01:10 <ybden> Trying to work out how to describe it
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18:02:37 <ybden> I think that it was pretty much breadth-first, prioritising the removal of higher levels and dire segments
18:03:19 <ybden> (but higher levels over dire segments)
18:03:25 <quintopia> breadth first from where?
18:03:54 <ybden> as in, which direction? Top-downwards
18:04:03 <ybden> Trying to remove tips
18:04:18 <ybden> Well, I suppose that isn't exactly breadth-first
18:04:23 <quintopia> left to right?
18:04:30 <ybden> I didn't really pick an order
18:04:53 <quintopia> i tried a similar strategy and it was very poor, though i think i may have prioritized dire segments over height
18:05:15 <ybden> for multiple tips at the same level, I tried to remove the ones with less normals, although in hindsight I should probably have done it the other way round
18:05:36 <ybden> Given that this would probably have resulted in less duplication
18:06:07 <ybden> quintopia: Yeah, I think I was prioritising dire segments over height partway through the first time, and then switched to height
18:06:10 <ybden> It went better after that
18:06:53 <ybden> I think that it made quite a significant difference, actually
18:07:13 <ybden> Is there any known best algorithm for efficient hydra chopping?
18:07:39 <quintopia> not known because we don't know the algorithm for head regrowth
18:07:47 <ybden> Because it's random?
18:09:40 <quintopia> well
18:09:50 <quintopia> i guess we could look at the code
18:09:56 <quintopia> it is javascript after all
18:10:23 <quintopia> there is a probability distribution on head growth, plus also certain constraints that prevent it from recursing/copying too much
18:11:26 <myname> is there some kind of pumping lemma for picture languages?
18:14:12 <tromp> what do you mean by picture language?
18:15:33 <myname> there are languages that extend regular expressions by operators that act downwards instead of sideways
18:15:42 <myname> resulting in twodimensional results
18:15:42 <ybden> quintopia: tried again, but prioritising normals with more heads, took 487
18:15:55 <ybden> quintopia: I'm pretty sure this is worse, even though this is random
18:16:34 <myname> this would - i guess - result in regular pictures
18:16:44 <myname> but you can also define the same for grammars
18:31:13 <izabera> does anyone know why does posix_memalign return int instead of void * like _every_ other function that allocates memory?
18:31:46 <quintopia> myname: you mean like snails?
18:32:01 <ais523> izabera: it's so that it can have more than one error code
18:32:07 <ais523> without needing to rely on errno
18:32:23 <izabera> what's the problem with errno?
18:32:47 <myname> no. let's assume i add a $-operator to,RE that acts like + but downwards. (0+)$ would be a rectangle of 0
18:33:39 <ais523> izabera: it's globalisih state that can be surprisingly hard to deal with
18:33:42 <myname> if i also add some kind of downwards concatenation i could make a chessboard
18:33:53 <ais523> it tends to get accidentally overwritten quite easily, for example
18:33:54 <izabera> ais523: but every other function uses it
18:33:59 <ais523> and causes headaches for threading libraries
18:34:05 <myname> ((10)+ D (01)+)$
18:34:09 <ais523> I think POSIX is moving away from errno for newly designed functions
18:34:20 <tromp> what is down concatenation of strings of different length?
18:34:45 <myname> i'd say either undefined or having blanks
18:34:56 <ais523> myname: regular expressions already have a $ assertion
18:35:01 <ais523> you might want to use some other character
18:35:23 <myname> yeah well, pcre do
18:35:41 <myname> i donjt care about notation really
18:36:48 <quintopia> https://github.com/feresum/PMA/blob/master/doc.md SNAILS
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18:44:00 <ybden> quintopia: What's your lowest chop count (by hand)?
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18:47:49 <izabera> ais523: so why does aligned_alloc return void* and set errno?
18:47:53 <izabera> that's in c11
18:48:25 <ais523> because C11 and POSIX kind-of compete with each other
18:48:50 <izabera> so one of the two is a bad decision
19:12:08 <oerjan> <shachaf> isn't it easily going to go to ackermann numbers <-- my guess is that the general hydras last even longer than that, since their halting is unprovable in peano arithmetic. but this one is limited by screen size, which means it obviously cannot be more than about exponential in that.
19:12:52 <oerjan> (is graham's number stuff provable in peano arithmetic?)
19:13:08 <oerjan> (tunes finally loaded hth)
19:13:19 <oerjan> although i must be going ->
19:13:21 <shachaf> oerjan: I don't remember the context but I think I was just going to make some sort of pun.
19:13:39 <oerjan> shachaf: no, that was the next line
19:13:41 <shachaf> oerjan is a real groucho these days
19:13:48 <shachaf> oerjan: I think it was just setup.
19:13:49 <oerjan> groucho?
19:13:53 <oerjan> OKAY
19:14:19 <shachaf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YrNQaXdOxU
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19:36:47 <ais523> @metar EGBB
19:36:48 <lambdabot> EGBB 201820Z 30010KT 9999 VCSH FEW033 SCT039TCU 24/15 Q1010
19:37:38 <int-e> @metar LOWI
19:37:38 <lambdabot> LOWI 201820Z VRB01KT 9999 FEW070 25/16 Q1016 NOSIG
19:37:51 <int-e> cooling down slowly...
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20:05:36 <int-e> brilliant.
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20:08:28 <myname> also, people are too stupid to use the pumping lemma
20:09:01 <myname> we had some that chose i = 1 to get a word that's not in the language ...
20:09:25 <int-e> it could work!
20:09:36 <int-e> (if you made a mistake earlier)
20:11:30 <myname> we had a language L = {1^(k^2) | k in N+}
20:11:40 <myname> one guy noticed that epsilon is not in there
20:11:59 <myname> so he chose i < 0 small enough to anihilate all other 1s in the given word
20:12:04 <int-e> uh, this gives me an idea for a wrong proof... showing that the empty set is not regular... for assume it's regular and consider any word from the language that is longer than the pumping constant... pumping gives a word that is not in the language because the language is empty... which is a contradiction... find the error!
20:12:59 <int-e> myname: that's a nice trick too.
20:13:42 <myname> yeah, but stupid as fuck to write in something that gets graded
20:13:51 <int-e> @tell oerjan uh, GG... could that be Zola?
20:13:51 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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20:51:20 <zzo38> That kind of deciding character encoding is not so good I think; the encoding should be defined explicitly instead. (For compatibility purpose, it could do what it does now if no character encoding is explicitly defined)
21:02:38 <pikhq> What sort of character encoding deciding? I seem to be missing context for that statement.
21:04:20 <zzo38> The one documented in https://github.com/feresum/PMA/blob/master/doc.md
21:04:56 <pikhq> Hrm.
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21:46:06 <\oren\> Oh my god why!
21:46:32 <\oren\> why would someone use macros to generate templates that generate the actual code that is crashing
21:46:42 <\oren\> why
21:49:39 <int-e> are you asking *about* meta-meta-code?
21:51:07 <\oren\> Wait... I didn't even knwo you could do this with templates
21:52:06 <\oren\> When did template functions with variable numbers of variably type arguments become a thing?
21:52:30 <\oren\> And why would anyone even
21:53:09 <gamemanj> you're in #esoteric
21:53:11 <gamemanj> this is normal
21:53:24 <int-e> "C++11 - New features - Variadic templates" http://www.cplusplus.com/articles/EhvU7k9E/ has a few usecases
21:53:41 <\oren\> gamemanj: I did not expect to see this in actual, production code
21:53:56 <int-e> not necessarily convincing ones... maybe the motivation was to do less C preprocessor magic.
21:53:57 <\oren\> Or really, anything remotely resebling this
21:54:59 <\oren\> I'm looking at this stuff and I'm thinking; no wonder our builds take an hour to compile
21:55:39 <\oren\> the code that uses this is also generated
21:55:41 <pikhq> Tip: templates compile for reach translation unit they're present in.
21:55:58 <pikhq> As such, templates are the secret to slow C++ compile times.
21:56:02 <pikhq> *each
21:57:31 <\oren\> and this stuff is just there as syntax sugar mostly
21:57:41 <\oren\> god, why
21:59:02 <\oren\> variadic template functions generated by macros and used by another writhing abomination somewhere else
21:59:37 <gamemanj> (So in other news I'll be watching TheDailyWTF)
22:01:02 <\oren\> Oh I forgot to mention what this is doing
22:01:29 <\oren\> it allows C++ code that writes HTML to have the same nested structure as the HTML is generates
22:01:49 <\oren\> the horror
22:01:52 <int-e> so it's an EDSL!
22:02:19 <int-e> Now we're in buzzword-compatible sane territory again ;-)
22:02:37 <int-e> Well, as long as it works :P
22:03:09 <gamemanj> But why does it need to have that structure...
22:03:17 <gamemanj> ow.
22:03:20 <gamemanj> my sanity.
22:03:33 <gamemanj> it's gone.
22:04:07 <\oren\> you can then write htmlout.start_a("href","someurl").text("link name").end_a();
22:04:21 <\oren\> or something?
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22:04:43 <\oren\> it's hard to tell because the functionsa are generated by a macro
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22:05:58 <\oren\> and we rarely use this code directly
22:06:37 <myname> well, in rust, you can use macros to basically inline html to generate a dom object
22:06:41 <\oren\> it's through a templating system in a proprietary subset of an obscure open source language invented by the chief architect
22:07:21 <gamemanj> which obscure open source language?
22:07:36 <gamemanj> (you can't have an open source language under an NDA, surely?)
22:07:36 <\oren\> "Salmon"
22:08:20 <\oren\> it's almost impossible to find info on it other than two mailing list posts by the chief architect
22:08:41 <gamemanj> at comp.compilers?
22:08:46 <\oren\> I think so
22:09:02 <gamemanj> Seems it supposedly had a website at one point.
22:09:24 <\oren\> oh there's an archive
22:09:26 <\oren\> http://www.cod5.org/archive/s/salmon.html
22:09:33 <gamemanj> Is this it? https://web.archive.org/web/20140105015657/http://salmonpl.net/
22:09:33 <\oren\> "Imperitive"
22:09:41 <\oren\> gamemanj: yep
22:10:14 <\oren\> our build system is written in it, instead of makefiles
22:10:19 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: you could have something that's not open source but people lie about it and claim it's open source (this is common); or you could have something that has an open source license (usually because of copyleft) but isn't distributed except within very tight circles.
22:10:41 <gamemanj> yes, I know about the people who lie and claim something is open source when it isn't... but those are usually people who are actually dodgy
22:10:42 <wob_jonas> \oren\: wait, your build system is written in a templating system?
22:10:59 <gamemanj> like "77zip", woah was *that* a fun mess to clean off of someone's computer
22:11:07 <gamemanj> (Not to be confused with "7-zip")
22:11:36 <\oren\> wob_jonas: no, in Salmon, an obscure programming language
22:11:57 <gamemanj> "procedure" and "function" are different things for some reason
22:12:16 <\oren\> which is used for many purposes here because it's the pet language of the chief architect
22:12:30 <gamemanj> oh, for... reduced fractions
22:12:33 <wob_jonas> And of course you can also have something under an MIT-like license but distribute only binary form or other deliberately obfuscated form that's hard to decode or modify.
22:12:46 <\oren\> Luckily, the production things are all in C++
22:13:05 <wob_jonas> Big companies sometimes try to pull that when some legal court forces them to release the source of some software
22:14:00 <gamemanj> BTW, apparently Salmon comments are C-like, except when they're Python-like. Oh, but apparently comments can be nested, I'm sure THAT's fun
22:14:00 <wob_jonas> \oren\: heh, I'm glad our chief architect doesn't have an obscure pet language... oh wait, cmake. damnit.
22:14:04 <\oren\> gamemanj: reduced fractions?
22:14:15 <gamemanj> oren: https://web.archive.org/web/20120114192459/http://salmonpl.net/docs/basic_examples.html
22:14:16 <gamemanj> read
22:14:18 <gamemanj> carefully
22:15:11 <\oren\> oh geez
22:15:37 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: well in C, ifdefs can be nested
22:15:46 <wob_jonas> that can be fun
22:16:33 <gamemanj> yes, but that makes SENSE
22:16:35 <int-e> !"Hello, world!" <-- didn't some basic dialects use ! for abbreviating PRINT?
22:17:02 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: can Salmon do /* crazy /*/ alternating /*/ comments /*/ with /*/ non-comments /*/ like /*/ this /*/ ? /**/
22:17:19 <\oren\> I use #if 0 for bcommenting things out in C anyway
22:17:21 <wob_jonas> int-e: no, basic dialects use a question mark to abbreviate print
22:17:24 <wob_jonas> not an exclamation mark
22:17:31 <int-e> damn.
22:17:41 <gamemanj> I have no idea what would happen, Salmon's not my language, and I don't ever want to run it on any computer I own
22:17:48 <gamemanj> now, someone else's computer maybe
22:17:55 <wob_jonas> \oren\: yes, that's useful for commenting out entire code blocks when they may contain short comments. I do it a lot
22:18:49 <wob_jonas> (some of my co-workers instead put a // in front of each line, even when commenting out a whole code block. that's horrible. #if 0 nests cleanly, both with other #if 0 and with comments.)
22:19:24 <\oren\> and then you can use #if 1 if you want to reenbale it temporarily
22:19:43 <\oren\> (while keeping the grouping handy)
22:20:03 <wob_jonas> \oren\: exactly. and #else for two blocks of which you enable one, or even named #ifdef
22:20:07 <int-e> @google enbale
22:20:08 <lambdabot> https://www.facebook.com/public/Melaku-Enbale
22:20:13 <int-e> eww.
22:21:07 <int-e> it evoked associations with "embalm" for me. fun typo.
22:21:07 <wob_jonas> (and in some cases, I can just use if (0) { ... } to disable a block.)
22:22:47 <int-e> . o O ( salmon looks fishy )
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22:28:41 <\oren\> Oh, so I can do tag_a("href","url","text");
22:29:12 <\oren\> might as well dive right into the tempateing horror
22:31:38 <wob_jonas> wait, they printed a red Donate sorcery, costing only 2R, that works on any type of permanent? that's crazy!
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22:40:31 <\oren\> yeah, this thing actually works pretty well
22:40:57 <\oren\> other than being a convulsing horror
22:41:09 <wob_jonas> yeah
22:42:34 <\oren\> I've seen cmake in several projects though
22:42:52 <\oren\> is cmake turing complete by itdelf?
22:42:56 <wob_jonas> wait, cmake?
22:43:15 <wob_jonas> maybe cmake works well, but it definitely doesn't work well the way it's used here
22:43:28 <wob_jonas> the build system is horrible, and probably only part of that is that it's in cmake
22:43:29 <\oren\> I'm not talking about cmake before
22:43:49 <\oren\> I was talking about the massive templateing horror that generates html
22:43:50 <wob_jonas> "convulsing horror" does describe the build scripts we're using really
22:43:57 <wob_jonas> oh, that?
22:44:12 <wob_jonas> I thought it was the Eldritch Moon set in general
22:44:18 <wob_jonas> because that one is convulsing horror
22:44:40 <wob_jonas> and I think cmake is turing-complete by itself, but I don't really know. I don't program cmake. the chief architect does that.
22:45:13 <\oren\> right. I don't write anything in Salmon, I merely copypaste it when I need to add things
22:45:13 <shachaf> why are all build systems scow
22:45:26 <hppavilion[2]> Putting the Cthulhu back in Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.
22:45:59 <wob_jonas> shachaf: we talked about that before. figuring out what you have to rebuild and what you can reuse is one of the two hard problems in computer science
22:46:08 <quintopia> ybden: bad
22:46:12 <shachaf> wob_jonas: just rebuild everything
22:46:13 <wob_jonas> someone told that today
22:46:17 <ybden> quintopia: rough count?
22:46:28 <wob_jonas> shachaf: yes, but the problem is, this build system doesn't work even if you rebuild everything,
22:46:36 <shachaf> right
22:46:41 <shachaf> therefore: why are all build systems scow
22:46:43 <wob_jonas> shachaf: because it builds things in the wrong order, so it tries to build something before building its deps
22:46:49 <\oren\> shachaf: if we did that, testing any change would take 40 minutes instead of 5
22:46:56 <wob_jonas> seriously
22:47:00 <\oren\> the man tests take 4 hours
22:47:04 <\oren\> *main
22:47:12 <shachaf> just send it to your data center and run it on a zillion computers
22:47:26 <shachaf> Also I don't actually mean to just rebuild everything.
22:48:01 <\oren\> the servers are in the room across from Dave.
22:48:24 <\oren\> (his name isn't Dave)
22:48:38 <shachaf> DANGEROUS DAVE
22:48:39 <shachaf> DAVE.EXE
22:48:53 <wob_jonas> that, yes
22:49:08 <\oren\> sometimes we have to go in there and hold the power button to reboot it
22:49:25 <\oren\> or get someone in California to do that
22:50:44 <\oren\> I think the actual production servers are in a data centre
22:50:50 <\oren\> ...maybe
22:51:06 <shachaf> What's a centre?
22:51:12 <shachaf> Do you mean a centrë?
22:51:13 <\oren\> but the dev servers are in the other room
22:54:26 <\oren\> of course, I'm fairly certain that if I ran linux on my macbook i could run the server on it
22:54:42 <\oren\> how much memory does a macbook pro have?
22:55:23 <shachaf> I don't think I know any MacBook pros.
22:55:36 <shachaf> But I know some people who know a lot about Apple computers in general.
22:55:38 <\oren\> wait no, it probably doesn't have enough hard disk
22:55:40 <shachaf> They have pretty good memories.
22:55:57 <shachaf> "the server"?
22:56:12 <\oren\> the... thingy. that my code goes into
22:56:38 <\oren\> the thingy that I run and it tells me if I did a good job... or somehting
22:56:55 <\oren\> if the output is colored red i did a bad job
22:57:31 <shachaf> aww
22:57:34 <\oren\> but if it's green, hooray I can type svn ci
22:57:41 <hppavilion[2]> People are upset about https://youtu.be/7rZOMY2sOnE apparently
22:57:53 <shachaf> I'm upset about it without even clicking the link.
22:57:58 <shachaf> So I'll keep not clicking it.
22:58:13 <wob_jonas> Our servers have raid array of hard disks, larger than any workstation does (but still not VERY large), plus at least some server has a tape drive for backups.
22:58:16 <hppavilion[2]> shachaf: It's an ad for Campbell's soup that has a gay couple in it
22:58:31 <hppavilion[2]> (also, Star Wars. Yes, they make an "I am your father" pun.)
22:58:33 <shachaf> Oh, that would definitely upset me.
22:58:35 <ybden> quintopia: \o/ managed to kill it in 123 cuts with a good starting configuration and that strategy
22:58:37 <shachaf> I don't like ads.
22:58:48 <hppavilion[2]> shachaf: But it allows me to make jokes
22:59:12 <hppavilion[2]> Nobody tell the conservatives that it isn't a gay marriage; the other parents just aren't shown onscreen
22:59:48 <quintopia> ybden the cut topmost and then dire strat?
22:59:58 <ybden> quintopia: yes
23:00:06 <\oren\> Another problem with c++ templates is that I can get several tens of kilobytes of error messages
23:00:42 <\oren\> all colored red thanks to our wonderful build system
23:00:46 <shachaf> You'll need a TENS machine to handle those error messages.
23:00:51 <ybden> quintopia: also attempting to ensure that when cutting normals at the same level, that any growth would result in the smallest number of duplication
23:02:32 <\oren\> luckily I know the -R switch for less
23:03:00 <wob_jonas> I can also get tons of error messages. I usually search for "fatal" in them first, which means that the compiler stopped, either because there were too many error messages, because an #inlcude wasn't found, or because parenthesis or #ifs were unbalanced or some other preprocessor error,
23:03:30 <wob_jonas> and always imply that there will be much more error messages once I fix the fatal error, so I shouldn't be too happy with the error list being so short
23:04:25 <\oren\> Oh, he never defined a template specialization for std::string only for char*
23:04:32 <\oren\> ok
23:04:38 <shachaf> \oren\: C++17 is going to be TG
23:05:13 <\oren\> will C++17 make std::string the builting string type instead of char*?
23:06:21 <\oren\> so that "hello world" is an std::string?
23:07:26 <wob_jonas> \oren\: no, and that would be almost impossible anyway. but you can use a user-defined literal that gives a std::string, and the standard library will probably define such a udl
23:07:53 <wob_jonas> so eg. "hello world"s will be a std::string, possibly with some other suffix instead of s
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23:11:48 <\oren\> wob_jonas: that's an ok compromise, but I still think std::string and std::vector should be made builtins with dedicated syntax
23:12:26 <\oren\> user defined literals sound like they will cause conflict
23:12:52 <wob_jonas> \oren\: part of the problem is that to create a std::string (even if the literal gives a const &), the compiler would have to know about the abi of std::string (which actually differs in different versions of libstdc++), how to allocate memory (which can depend on the version of libstdc++, compilation options, the libc used, etc), and
23:13:12 <wob_jonas> when to allocate the memory (not too late so it can cause an exception in the function where the literal is used, but not too early before libc isn't ready to malloc)
23:13:32 <wob_jonas> \oren\: I definitely don't think std::string or std::vector should be builtins
23:14:07 <\oren\> strings and arrays are builtins in most languages, why not in C++?
23:14:44 <wob_jonas> \oren\: most languages aren't like C++, and C++ syntax is now powerful enough that you can define your own new array-like or string-like class in C++, which is basically what the library does
23:14:50 <\oren\> then you could standardize the ABI for them
23:14:55 <pikhq> It's rather nontrivial with C and C++ having the interesting feature of supporting freestanding implementations.
23:15:03 <wob_jonas> (all this applies for modern C++, not for ancient C++)
23:15:06 <pikhq> That is, implementations *without a libc at all*.
23:15:09 <wob_jonas> (but you don't want to use ancient C++)
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23:15:39 <pikhq> (this is an explicit feature in both C and C++. It's in the spec, and it's relied upon by some users.)
23:17:13 <\oren\> but isn't the spec's definition of a freestanding environment, to say most things are now implementation defined?
23:17:30 <wob_jonas> \oren\: the best ABI depends on details of the underlying machine, and as a result has also changed in time (although in huge rare steps because it's a pain to change), it's a low-level detail that the C++ language itself shouldn't standardize it. but part of the ABIs are standard enough, in the sense that they're documented and implemented by many
23:17:30 <wob_jonas> different compilers (the libstdc++ part are somewhat worse in this than the C and posix part)
23:18:17 <pikhq> Some portions of a freestanding environment are implementation defined. Not, however, the runtime semantics or syntax...
23:18:58 <pikhq> Having std::string built in would give you a substantial library that would be required to be defined in freestanding environments.
23:19:14 <\oren\> does the C standard mandate that an implementation have floats?
23:19:23 <pikhq> Yes.
23:19:38 <wob_jonas> \oren\: yes, although it's quite lenient about what kind of floats they are
23:20:04 <\oren\> could a conforming implementation use fixed point for floats?
23:20:07 <wob_jonas> luckily most modern machines and compiler environments give you SANE floats too, not just floats
23:20:13 <pikhq> Yes, there's no requirement that they're IEEE floats at all, and what's required in freestanding implementations is just the basic operators and some macros.
23:20:15 <wob_jonas> \oren\: no
23:21:08 <pikhq> Another big problem is that C++ attempts to have a large common subset with C.
23:21:22 <pikhq> Changing core semantics like the meaning of a string literal, would break that.
23:21:32 <\oren\> yes, that is a big problem. they need to stop doing that
23:21:50 <wob_jonas> \oren\: they did sort of stop
23:22:02 <gamemanj> is this by any chance referring to wide characters?
23:22:03 <pikhq> It would also break existing C++ code, which is frowned upon in new standard versions.
23:22:30 <wob_jonas> in the sense that they aren't supporting some of the useful more recent C features, and sometimes are specifically incompatible with them (otoh at least they also don't support some of the BAD recent features of C)
23:22:38 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: no
23:22:54 <pikhq> wob_jonas: But then, it's trivial to write valid C90 that's invalid C++.
23:23:11 <\oren\> int class = 2;
23:23:18 <pikhq> char *foo = malloc(1); /* Woops. */
23:23:23 <wob_jonas> pikhq: sure
23:24:14 <pikhq> But, yeah. C++ breaking existing C++ is basically not going to happen if it's avoidable.
23:24:18 <fizzie> There's a macro __STDC_IEC_559__ which, if defined, signals that the floats satisfy an extra annex that's mostly the IEEE things.
23:24:26 <wob_jonas> \oren\: meh, most C code stopped using class as a keyword. ruby uses klass instead to denote ruby classes.
23:25:09 <wob_jonas> there's lots of C vs C++ compatibility things that can trip you up more frequently
23:25:27 <wob_jonas> including pointer conversions like you already mentioned, but there's more
23:26:23 <\oren\> c++ doesn't let you convert a void pointer to anyhting?
23:26:28 <pikhq> Not implicitly.
23:26:47 <pikhq> wob_jonas: That one's one of the worse ones specifically because it breaks nearly all idiomatic C.
23:26:55 <wob_jonas> \oren\: and also doesn't let you use an assignment statement to convert a pointer to an integer, or something like that
23:27:27 <wob_jonas> pikhq: no, it's not one of the worse ones, because it gives an error message. the worse ones are the ones that compile silently but do the wrong thing
23:27:29 <fizzie> Even without, the floats need to follow a model where a floating-point number is defined by x = s * b^e * sum_{k=1..p} f_k b^-k, with s either 1 or -1, some integer b > 1, integers e_min <= e <= e_max, and nonnegative integers f_k < b.
23:27:36 <pikhq> Oh, good point.
23:27:38 <wob_jonas> you can get them with some of the overloaded maths functions
23:27:47 <wob_jonas> min, max, abs especially
23:28:20 <pikhq> Nasty things like function names getting mangled in C++ but not C can be real problems.
23:28:21 <fizzie> (Although things like the accuracy of operations is implementation-defined.)
23:29:15 <pikhq> There's probably some other cases of things which syntactically work the same in both but have subtly different semantics, but I can't think of 'em right now.
23:29:41 <pikhq> Well, there's also the struct and typedef namespaces being identical in C++.
23:30:24 <wob_jonas> pikhq: yes, although that (struct and typedef and enum namespaces) rarely seems to cause compatibility problems
23:30:28 <pikhq> Though if you typedef a struct of a given name to the same name it still works in C++, and if you do a different typedef then it just gives you a compilation error.
23:30:37 <wob_jonas> pikhq: there's also some difference in scoping that I forgot, which also rarely causes problems
23:30:42 <fizzie> To be picky, there's no typedef namespace. Those are just ordinary identifiers.
23:30:55 <wob_jonas> fizzie: yes
23:31:14 <wob_jonas> and when the struct namespace causes problems, it's usually (but not always) compilation errors
23:33:57 <wob_jonas> there are lots of other compatiblity problems but I keep forgetting about them
23:34:29 <wob_jonas> I don't work much with C these days, and keep assuming that it does everything just like C++ but without destructors and features like that and with C99 complexes
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23:35:07 <wob_jonas> then I get surprised when people tell me that C works differently
23:35:14 <wob_jonas> and promptly forget about it
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00:20:29 <izabera> i came up with the most efficient idea
00:20:39 <izabera> $ { cat; inutility dd skip=-3 bs=1 count=0 status=none; cat; } <<< 12345678
00:20:40 <izabera> 12345678
00:20:42 <izabera> 78
00:21:16 <izabera> my dd can take a negative parameter for skip and it seeks backwards
00:21:46 <izabera> so you can move the file offset arbitrarily from a shell
00:22:01 <izabera> you just need to fork and exec an external program first
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00:51:06 <\oren\> inutility sounds like it means "un useful ness"
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00:51:39 <\oren\> like inability or inhumanity
00:51:52 <prooftechnique> It does mean that
00:52:12 <prooftechnique> It is a synonym for uselessness
00:52:20 <\oren\> prooftechnique: it's a real word? wow
00:52:23 <prooftechnique> The adjectival form is inutile
00:53:04 <prooftechnique> Life's strange
00:56:38 <izabera> i'm great at picking names
00:56:56 <prooftechnique> Example?
00:57:03 <izabera> inutility -_-
00:58:00 <\oren\> but this negative skip sounds useful!
00:58:38 <izabera> yay
00:59:04 <izabera> tbh it's a feature i expected gnu dd to have
00:59:09 <izabera> i was disappointed
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01:06:13 <quintopia> ybden: it worked. 159 heads. nice job.
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01:14:24 <\oren\> Ok, so I've figured out which characters I need to add so that Arabic text will look alright
01:16:24 <boily> he\\oren\. tackling the whole combinarabic thing?
01:19:05 <quintopia> coily
01:19:38 <boily> quinthellopia!
01:20:18 <prooftechnique> helloily
01:21:24 <prooftechnique> I wonder if there's an elisp library that could automate those name transformations for ERC :)
01:21:40 <\oren\> boily: it seems to do it automatically if I define the code points in 0xfe80 to 0xfef4
01:22:02 <\oren\> it automatically chooses the correct form contextually
01:22:33 <\oren\> but I currently have some missing in that block
01:24:04 <\oren\> I also dfound out that when I added ﬡﬢﬣﬤﬥﬦﬧﬨ to the font I didn't put them in the demo, that's been corrected
01:24:41 <\oren\> `unidecode ﬡ
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01:25:32 <\oren\> wake up hackego!
01:25:42 * boily mapoles the HackEgo
01:25:45 <boily> `wisdom
01:26:00 * boily mapoles the HackEgo some more
01:26:01 <boily> `wisdom
01:26:16 <lambdabot> don't mapole me, bro
01:26:31 <boily> I ain't be mapoling lambdie.
01:26:35 <\oren\> anyway ﬡ isn't a wide character even though it should be. so I drew it as bold instead
01:26:45 <HackEgo> ​[U+FB21 HEBREW LETTER WIDE ALEF]
01:26:52 <HackEgo> No output.
01:26:53 <HackEgo> atrocity//Atrocity is the capital of the Atrocious Empire.
01:27:44 <boily> that sounds shachafy...
01:27:50 <boily> `culprits wisdom/atrocity
01:28:06 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 oerjan
01:28:44 <prooftechnique> I would think Atrocity would just be one without any lights
01:28:48 * boily accepts his wrongness
01:28:57 <shachaf> boily: do you accept `cwlprits
01:29:12 <prooftechnique> Or `cuilprits
01:29:16 <boily> hellochaf. are those welsh culprits?
01:29:29 <shachaf> obviously
01:29:32 <boily> prooftechnollique. surreal culprits?
01:29:33 <shachaf> `coolprits
01:29:46 <boily> do we have any Welsh in this chännel? Taneb?
01:30:01 <alercah> don't you mean chwnnwl?
01:30:55 <prooftechnique> Indeed
01:33:45 <boily> alercahello. chŵnnŵl.
01:33:52 <shachaf> Taneb is dutch hth
01:34:02 <shachaf> dutchelloneb
01:35:33 <boily> it is customary to porthello Taneb in the vocative case. duchellone.
01:35:36 <boily> s/ch/tch/
01:36:18 <\oren\> chﺍnnﺍl
01:36:37 <shachaf> \oren\: that makes no sense hth
01:36:48 <\oren\> why not?
01:37:09 <boily> are those clicks?
01:40:13 <\oren\> should it be chﻌnnﻌl instead?
01:40:42 <\oren\> or chﻌnnﻴl?
01:43:47 <\oren\> chאַnnיl
01:44:53 <\oren\> צaננeל
01:45:47 <shachaf> \oren\: are you aware that this a right-to-left alphabet hth
01:45:49 <\oren\> שתaננeל
01:46:27 <shachaf> this is painful hth
01:48:16 <\oren\> לeננaתש
01:48:54 <shachaf> that is not how you write that sound hth
01:49:40 <\oren\> תש is T SH -> CH right?
01:51:14 <boily> you wrote shtannel hth.
01:52:36 <\oren\> huh?
01:52:38 <shachaf> No, it doesn't make senes to write that sound that way.
01:53:40 <\oren\> לeננaכ better?
01:54:54 <\oren\> ooh, there's a letter called a chet
01:55:55 <\oren\> לeננaח
01:58:06 <\oren\> wait a second, yiddish must surely have the ch sound in it
01:58:22 <\oren\> AHA
01:58:30 <\oren\> לeננaצ׳
01:58:52 <\oren\> shachaf: is THAT how you do it?
02:01:35 <\oren\> "hebraization of English"
02:03:02 <\oren\> now, time to play Kerbal Space Program
02:05:18 <\oren\> לe׆נaצ׳
02:06:13 <boily> a reversed nun?
02:06:43 <\oren\> well we need an esoteric letter
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02:07:25 <boily> hmm... could be better...
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02:07:52 <\oren\> apparently a bunch of ׆ appear as punctuation in the bible and noone knows why
02:08:34 <boily> maybe they aren't reversed נ and only notches that served as points?
02:08:57 <boily> s/point/period/
02:10:46 <\oren\> no, they are used like brackets around certain verses
02:11:19 <shachaf> \oren\: That's better.
02:11:21 <\oren\> but hwat that signifies about those verses noone knows
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02:25:41 <\oren\> ARGHHT?
02:26:39 <boily> ARGHHT.
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03:11:54 <Sgeo> `unidecode 
03:13:06 <HackEgo> U+E000 <Private Use, First> \ UTF-8: ee 80 80 UTF-16BE: e000 Decimal: &#57344; \  \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
03:14:32 <izabera> all the queries for HackEgo are sent to someone in china that will compute them by hand and type in the answer
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03:52:24 <zzo38> That character is displayable on my computer at least
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04:41:33 <pikhq> zzo38: I take it you have a ConScript font?
04:42:15 <pikhq> (that codepoint is assinged by CSUR as TENGWAR LETTER TINCO)
04:42:18 <zzo38> This IRC window is using the ISO 10646 version of the "fixed" font; I don't know what private use assignments it uses.
04:43:44 <Sgeo> in Chrome on Windows in the location bar it looks like a magnifying glass
04:44:14 <pikhq> The "fixed" font probably uses the WGL-4 assignments, which only assigns U+F001 and U+F002.
04:44:30 <pikhq> ... as duplicates of U+FB01 and U+FB02.
04:45:16 <Sgeo> https://twitter.com/alexsuraci/status/755939218883432448
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04:46:00 <pikhq> Sgeo: Huh.
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04:48:46 <pikhq> I wonder if you copy-pasted that wrong; I don't see much that assigns U+E000.
04:49:21 <pikhq> Oh, of course. The PRC assigns parts of the PUA for encoding Tibetan.
04:50:13 <pikhq> Even though Tibetan is encoded. In the BMP.
04:50:19 <Sgeo> pikhq, the browser's DOM certainly thinks it's E000
04:50:48 <Sgeo> Could be Twitter foobaring it
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05:48:04 <izabera> `` type python python2
05:48:21 <HackEgo> python is /usr/bin/python \ python2 is /usr/bin/python2
05:48:43 <izabera> `` python2 -c "print' ottffssennwhoiieiieoruvxvgn ere ehe e nt'[input()::9]" <<< 8
05:48:45 <izabera> `` python2 -c "print' ottffssennwhoiieiieoruvxvgn ere ehe e nt'[input()::9]" <<< 4
05:48:47 <izabera> `` python2 -c "print' ottffssennwhoiieiieoruvxvgn ere ehe e nt'[input()::9]" <<< 1
05:48:48 <HackEgo> eight
05:49:06 <HackEgo> four
05:49:06 <HackEgo> one
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06:35:00 <\oren\> `unicode FLORAL
06:35:10 <HackEgo> U+2619 REVERSED ROTATED FLORAL HEART BULLET \ UTF-8: e2 98 99 UTF-16BE: 2619 Decimal: &#9753; \ ☙ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+2766 FLORAL HEART \ UTF-8: e2 9d a6 UTF-16BE: 2766 Decimal: &#10086; \ ❦ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+2767 ROTATED FLORAL HEART BULLET \ UTF-
06:39:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * MayorMonty * New user account
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08:54:02 <hppavilion[2]> As anybody implemented the "Recording of a sobbing voice begging you to answer" ringtone?
09:03:51 <myname> i like the idea
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09:35:59 <Vorpal> <pikhq> Oh, of course. The PRC assigns parts of the PUA for encoding Tibetan. <-- what? China has it's own version of Unicode?
09:59:36 <hppavilion[2]> Any time someone invokes the Current Year fallacy from now on, I'm using Eternal September
10:00:56 <izabera> come on, it's 2016
10:02:26 <hppavilion[2]> izabera: No, it's September 8360, 1993
10:02:32 <izabera> ok
10:02:35 <izabera> still
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10:16:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Processor/1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48948&oldid=39970 * TuxCrafting * (+175) Added a link to my implementation
10:41:30 <hppavilion[2]> I think I have a new hobby
10:42:24 <hppavilion[2]> Fruitilation
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12:28:55 <b_jonas> zzo38: I had a strange idea for an M:tG card. Teferi's Hangover Cure | UUU | Enchantment - Aura | Enchant nonland permanent. / Enchanted permanent is an enchantment.
12:35:43 <b_jonas> (I think the name and cost just about fits in the name line of the frame; if it doesn't, then it instead has to be Hangover Cure and Teferi identified in the flavor text and art.)
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13:52:33 <Sgeo> b_jonas, that sounds useless, but I'm sure there's a way to use it to get infinite something
13:54:21 <b_jonas> Sgeo: it's NOT useless. You can use it as a Pacifism, or you can use it to hasten a {T}-ability of a creature.
13:54:39 <b_jonas> In a pinch you can also use it together with cards that care about enchantments.
13:54:53 <Sgeo> How is it like pacifism?
13:55:21 <b_jonas> Sgeo: it can enchant a creature, regardless of who controls it, and then that creature is no longer a creature, merely an enchantment, so it can't attack or block,
13:56:03 <Sgeo> It doesn't say enchanted permanent isn't any other type of permanent
13:56:31 <b_jonas> also doesn't have a p/t or creature types, is removed from combat if it was combat and you happen to attach the Cure at instant speed, many auras and equipment fall off the creature because they can't enchant non-creatures.
13:57:01 <Sgeo> Maybe it should say "Enchanted permanent is an enchantment and no other type of permanent"
13:57:30 <b_jonas> Sgeo: that's the default. A type-changing effect overwrites all types (but not subtypes) unless it says "is an artifact creature" or "in addition to its other types". You could add a reminder like "(It is no longer a creature, planeswalker, or artifact.)"
13:57:43 <Sgeo> Ah
13:58:24 <Sgeo> Sorry about the confusion
13:59:43 <b_jonas> And Teferi's Hangover Cure does more, because you can also attach it to your planeswalker, which protects it from getting attacked, and I think also protects that planeswalker from dying if the last loyalty counter is removed, such as with a planeswalker down arrow ability.
14:00:14 <Sgeo> b_jonas, how do you turn it back into a planeswalker?
14:00:16 <b_jonas> Further, you can attach it to an equipment to turn it to non-equipment.
14:00:31 <Sgeo> I assume you need to otherwise you just permanently disabled your planeswalker
14:00:51 <b_jonas> Sgeo: you didn't disable it, because the activated abilities still work
14:01:00 <Sgeo> Also are planeswalkers permanents? They act like players
14:01:03 <b_jonas> You can Disenchant the cure if you really have to disable it
14:01:19 <b_jonas> They are permanents, and they don't really act like players, except in a very few minor ways
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14:21:36 <LKoen> alternate universe: what if Magic the Gathering had made it to the video games market
14:21:47 <LKoen> just before Pokémon did
14:24:03 <LKoen> I guess Pokémon would still be popular because it appeals to young children more than Magic does; but I'm not sure how much, given that practically all of my friends were playing magic when I entered middle school (so around age 10 or 11)
14:24:30 <LKoen> also there's the logistic problem that Nintendo kinda had a monopoly with the game boy
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14:36:22 <b_jonas> LKoen: in the form M:tG had, I don't think it could have easily work as a video game, especially not on such hardware as the Game Boy
14:37:18 <LKoen> b_jonas: well, of course there's some adaptation to be done, but is it that bad?
14:37:35 <LKoen> I believe Pokémon adapted it the other way around (video game to cards) though I'm not sure about that
14:38:03 <LKoen> (and what's wrong with the game boy?)
14:38:46 <b_jonas> too little RAM, not very powerful video card
14:39:03 <LKoen> why do you need a powerful video card for a turn-based game?
14:40:19 <b_jonas> LKoen: you need a powerful video card to show card art, especially multiple cards at the same time, selected in any way, because I don't think you have enough power to dynamically build tilesets in RAM, and you can't have a large enough tileset in ROM to show any reasonable selection of cards;
14:40:36 <b_jonas> and also the display has very low resolution so you won't be able to show much card names or text at the same time
14:40:45 <b_jonas> it would be almost impossible to play that way
14:40:58 <LKoen> but it's a video game, not a card game
14:41:04 <b_jonas> even if you just show one line per card, on a text-based interface, you can't fit much info on the screen
14:41:23 <LKoen> you can show creature's sprites, and a list of possible actions
14:41:26 <b_jonas> oh, you mean a video game? that would have nothing to do with M:tG, especially not in its original 6-minute card game form
14:42:03 <b_jonas> it would be almost unrecognizable, except maybe from some heros like the Legacy, Karn, Urza, Yawgmoth, whatever appearing in both as characters
14:42:15 <b_jonas> but the game would have no relation to what we know now as early M:tG
14:42:24 <LKoen> why could Pokémon have both a successful card game and a successful video game, if Magic couldn't?
14:42:31 <b_jonas> I don't know
14:42:43 <b_jonas> probably because Magic was designed as a short card game
14:43:01 <b_jonas> but after WotC figured out how trading duel card games should work, they could turn ANY fiction to a card game
14:43:24 <LKoen> (I don't know what WotC means)
14:43:29 <b_jonas> which is why you have a Star Wars tcg, a Warcraft tcg, a Pokemon tcg, a Lord of the Rings tcg (some of those not by the WotC)
14:43:54 <b_jonas> WotC is abbreviation for "Wizards of the Coast", the company that publishes M:tG and also Pokemon tcg and Yu Gi Oh iirc
14:43:58 <Sgeo> Wizards of the Coast
14:44:01 <LKoen> oh
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14:44:18 <Sgeo> I think Pokemon TCG was transferred to someone else
14:44:36 <b_jonas> Sgeo: dunno
14:44:49 <LKoen> well, I'm not surprised that there can be a trading card game of anything. there can also be a video game after any movie; a monopoly board game; a risk board game; a lego set...
14:45:12 <LKoen> that doesn't mean the video game or the trading card game is going to be good
14:45:49 <b_jonas> I'm wrong, they aren't the ones publishing the Yu Gi Oh tcg
14:46:14 * Sgeo is considering trying the Pokemon TCG online
14:46:16 <b_jonas> they've published M:tG, created Pokemon tcg and the Star Wars tcg
14:46:27 <b_jonas> Note that M:tG was the *first* trading card game
14:46:34 <b_jonas> there had been card games and trading cards before that
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14:46:41 <b_jonas> but M:tG was the first that combined them
14:47:08 <LKoen> in fact I've noticed that a lot of fantasy films have been adapted in turn-based video games, with a boring narrative and not-so-interesting fight mechanics
14:47:28 <b_jonas> which is both why it's so influential to other TCG, and why it's so popular and long-lived despite that it has made lots of bad decisions in early times, many of which are still present as historical reasons problems
14:47:55 <b_jonas> LKoen: hehe
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14:49:27 <Sgeo> What bad decisions? As in bad rules, or other things?
14:49:42 <b_jonas> Anyway, after that, lots of other companies made TCGs, including the above mentioned Yu Gi Oh TCG, The Lord of the Rings TCG, World of Warcraft TCG, My Little Pony CCG, and lots more
14:49:46 <Sgeo> This art's kind of pretty http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:DoubleColorlessEnergyBaseSet96.jpg
14:49:56 <Sgeo> Un- lands are prettier though
14:50:11 <b_jonas> Sgeo: bad rules, bad cards, bad composition of boosters and other distribution problems
14:50:18 <b_jonas> NO! the un-lands are UGLY
14:50:24 <Sgeo> http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/unhinged/forest-full-art
14:50:40 <Sgeo> b_jonas, I just checked, Unglued lands are ugly, unhinged....
14:51:03 <b_jonas> Ok wait
14:51:08 <b_jonas> yes, Unglued lands are ugly
14:51:15 <b_jonas> but Unhinged lands are ok
14:51:57 <b_jonas> I guess I saw the Unglued basic lands a lot because they're so ugly they're cheap, and didn't see the Unhigned basic lands much
14:53:53 <Sgeo> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grass_Energy_(TCG) these are... pretty but boring, if that makes sense
14:54:13 <Sgeo> Except for that "EX Holon Phantoms" print, that's kind of ugly
14:54:32 <b_jonas> Anyway, I think M:tG, Yu Gi Oh, and the Pokemon TCG are the only really popular tcgs
14:55:12 <myname> mlp
14:58:53 <Sgeo> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rainbow_Energy_(Team_Rocket_17)#Gallery wow, the update makes more sense but removes some of the artiness
14:59:04 <LKoen> Sgeo: the heartgold & soulsilver one looks like a timid attempt to make it a forest instead of just a leaf symbol
14:59:14 <LKoen> and in the next print they went "nope"
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15:12:58 <\oren\> LKoen: I see a Who's That Pokemon! It's Celebi!
15:13:24 <\oren\> There's a Celebi silhouette in the art
15:13:41 <LKoen> yes
15:14:36 <\oren\> The other energy cards in that set seem to also have a pokemon silhouette
15:15:08 <LKoen> I remember Celebi as the "tease" Pokémon. there were a lot of hints about him in that forest in the generation 2 games, and in the gamecube game, and in the anime they carried the GS balls for like a hundred episodes
15:15:17 <LKoen> and in fact, no Celebi!!
15:16:35 <\oren\> celebi was given out at events or something
15:17:59 <LKoen> well, so was mew in the first generation, but there was no lying hint in the first games that mew was there somewhere
15:18:42 <\oren\> Well the rumors weren't lies, you could cook up a mew with several glitches
15:19:10 <LKoen> I seem to recall an NPC in the forest saying "this is the autel that belongs to the divinity that guards the forest. if you stand there long enough it will appear to you" or something
15:19:49 <LKoen> and yes mew was easy to get, I don't know if that was intentional or not
15:20:43 <LKoen> there was a glitch with the link cord in the first games that allowed to clone pokemon in an exchange; somehow this glitch made its way to all subsequent games, in similar places
15:21:01 <LKoen> sometimes it was so obvious where the glitch would be, I'm pretty convinced it's intentional
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15:26:37 <FireFly> <LKoen> well, so was mew in the first generation, but there was no lying hint in the first games that mew was there somewhere ← I think that was because AFAIK they snuck Mew into some remaining free space on the ROM at the very end, so it hadn't really been intended as a part of the game during development
15:27:00 <FireFly> whereas with the 2nd gen games they probably knew from the start that they wanted a similar event-only pokemon at the very end, and designed around that
15:27:54 <LKoen> overselling 101
15:28:42 <LKoen> your explanation makes a lot of sense, but it was still a huge disappointment
15:30:52 <FireFly> Hehe
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16:48:38 <b_jonas> but seriously, a Donate (almost) for 2R. Why would they print such a thing?
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17:07:26 <\oren\> Aha, found it; "Harmless Offering"
17:08:26 <b_jonas> \oren\: that, yes.
17:08:30 <\oren\> it has a picture of a cute cat
17:08:34 <b_jonas> yes.
17:09:15 <b_jonas> I mean, Bazaar Trader at least have the sensibility that it can't donate an ordinary enchantment.
17:09:25 <b_jonas> Most of the permanents you'd want to donate to an opponent are enchantments.
17:09:52 <b_jonas> The most popular is of course Illusions of Grandeur, but there are lots of othres
17:10:52 <\oren\> but, instead of a cat, you could give them a blood moon
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17:12:21 <b_jonas> \oren\: why would you want that? Blood Moon works just as well no matter who owns it
17:13:11 * \oren\ looks up blood moon
17:13:16 <\oren\> oh right
17:13:47 <b_jonas> give them a Null Profusion and make them discard their hand
17:13:56 <b_jonas> nah, too expensive
17:14:03 <b_jonas> you want to win before that
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17:14:54 <\oren\> the comments on Donate suggest giving them a Steel Golem
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17:15:12 <b_jonas> oh... interesting
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17:16:01 <\oren\> or things with cumulative upkeeps
17:16:36 <b_jonas> nah, they can always just sacrifice those next upkeep
17:17:00 <zzo38> Notion Thief
17:17:25 <zzo38> (if you control Consecrated Sphinx too)
17:17:29 <b_jonas> I think some people used Abyssal Persecutor together with Bazaar Trader
17:20:47 <zzo38> Whenever opponent draws a card, you may force opponent to draw two more cards.
17:23:32 <\oren\> someone suggested a hivestone
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17:24:17 <\oren\> you donate it to the other team member in a two on two
17:25:38 <b_jonas> \oren\: the red donate they printed doesn't do that
17:25:53 <\oren\> OH! Plague Sliver, Hivestone
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17:26:20 <\oren\> such troll
17:26:30 <\oren\> much gritting of teeth
17:26:51 <b_jonas> \oren\: that's sort of complicated. for a three-card combo you probably can't pull off before turn 4, I'd expect more than just a couple of damage per turn
17:27:14 <\oren\> but funny
17:28:05 <b_jonas> isn't it funnier to just Artificial Evolution the Plague Sliver?
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17:37:48 <zzo38> What you would need is my own custom card called "Urza's Safety Glasses", to protect yourself against such damage.
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20:34:15 <\oren\> I'm working on a script that formalizes the tgz repository system
20:35:45 <\oren\> A tgz repository consists of two files: a .tgz file containing the versions, and a .stamp file containing the timestamp of the most recent version.
20:37:17 <\oren\> the command $ tgzr start foo.c creates the files foo.c.tgz and foo.c.stamp
20:37:52 <\oren\> you can save the current version with tgzr save foo.c
20:38:56 <\oren\> you can go back to an earlier version with tgzr load foo.c [timestamp]
20:39:09 <zzo38> OK
20:40:43 <\oren\> and tgzr list foo.c lists valid timestamps
20:41:03 <int-e> ... do you know rcs?
20:42:39 <\oren\> that's all the functionality I've implemented
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20:43:51 <\oren\> you can of course use the exact same commands to save an entire directory, say Xproject/, with tgzr save Xproject
20:46:22 <\oren\> int-e: rcs uses diffs, something I find unnecessary.
20:46:34 <int-e> so use git then
20:46:36 <\oren\> this stores an entire copy of each version
20:46:55 <int-e> IN ANY CASE... I will not be dragged into this discussion AGAIN.
20:47:01 <shachaf> You should learn how git works.
20:47:12 <shachaf> It'd take about half an hour.
20:47:32 <\oren\> shachaf: people have told me that but it isn't rue
20:48:06 <\oren\> git is probably complicated enough for a half credit course on how it works
20:48:10 <shachaf> I mean learn how it works, not all the command line options and all that.
20:48:35 <\oren\> oh that
20:48:57 <shachaf> No one knows all those things.
20:48:58 <shachaf> Well, I don't.
20:49:31 <shachaf> But if you know what a repository state is and how to look at it, then you can figure out how to get to the state you want pretty easily.
20:49:36 <quintopia> fancy tree structures
20:50:08 <shachaf> A git repository is very similar to a bunch of .tar.gz files like you want.
20:50:53 <shachaf> A "commit" contains a "tree" (i.e. the repository contents) and some metadata.
20:51:46 <shachaf> You can go to any commit with "git checkout [commit id]"
20:53:05 <shachaf> You can name a commit by making a file that contains a commit id (that's called a "branch").
20:53:35 <\oren\> actually I should prably store the .stamp file inside the .tgz file
20:53:44 <shachaf> A commit can point to a parent, so you can look at the history that way by following commit ids.
20:53:51 <shachaf> That's pretty much all there is to it.
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20:54:36 <shachaf> It's a more straightforward model than a bunch of .tar.gz files.
20:55:03 <int-e> graphs of objects are a powerful abstraction
20:55:06 <\oren\> shachaf: not "a bunch" one .tgz file stores the entire repository
20:55:23 <shachaf> OK.
20:56:43 <shachaf> It sounds like you're describing a git repository with some useful features removed.
20:57:05 <\oren\> and some useful features, like a simple interface, added
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20:57:26 <quintopia> \oren\: if you're interested creating new inventions, i've heard the wheel, mousetraps, and the abstract concept of looking up things in lists are all ideas whose time has come, if someone is willing to develop them
20:58:09 <\oren\> quintopia: I already invented the wheel
20:58:34 <\oren\> I developed it based on the paper plate
20:59:31 <\oren\> actually I should also add the ability to delete a version from the repository
20:59:45 <quintopia> \oren\: whats a plate?
21:00:55 <\oren\> quintopia: in Canada, at barbeques, hamburgers are served on cardboard circles with flared edges
21:02:33 <\oren\> they are typically enjoyed with fries soaked in vinegar
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21:04:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48949&oldid=48946 * Darkrifts * (+86) /* Use */
21:05:45 <quintopia> (trigger warning for concarnitarians. ending in 5 minutes at most)
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21:07:14 <quintopia> \oren\: isnt the whole point of hamburgers that they are meat served on circles of bread, which not only support all the toppings and absorb the juices, but also get automatically cleaned up by being eaten?
21:08:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48951&oldid=48949 * Darkrifts * (-4) /* Use */
21:09:48 <quintopia> also hamburger is in a completely separate catrgory from barbecue
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21:17:26 <\oren\> quintopia: but you need the paper circles to hold the hamburger and the accompanying fries in one place.
21:20:09 <\oren\> wait since when is -r an invalid iption for mv
21:21:16 <int-e> you can't really move a directory without moving its contents as well
21:22:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48952 * Darkrifts * (+708) Created page with "This is a standard for compiling code for being read by the FOS system by ~~~. This standard is being developed to allow for people to design their own compilers for other lan..."
21:25:58 <\oren\> int-e: it would be hilarious though
21:26:24 <\oren\> mv fooproject newproject/foo
21:26:46 <\oren\> "Wait, why are the foo project files in my home directory now?"
21:27:16 <\oren\> "You didn't use the -r option to mv, so they fell out."
21:32:56 <\oren\> int-e: that begs the question why is -r a valid option for cp?
21:33:16 <\oren\> or that matter rm?
21:36:53 <\oren\> all they do is, they refuse to copy or delete a directory normally until they get their -r biscuit^H^H^H^H option
21:38:20 <int-e> disk space is scarce, so cp -r makes sense, and you might want to keep all your files even if you typo a file name... so it's good for damage control
21:38:36 <\oren\> and then there is the fact that rmdir and mkdir exist but not cpdir, mvdir, or a mk command
21:38:42 <int-e> an mv operation (within the same fs) is lossless and doesn't cost disk space
21:39:18 <\oren\> alias mk touch
21:39:18 <myname> > (length [1..]) > 6
21:39:22 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
21:39:31 <myname> interesting
21:39:37 <int-e> of course *you* would create directories by using cp / foo without -r.
21:40:41 <\oren\> myname: isn't it some other language that does proof analysis on its code, not haskell?
21:41:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48953&oldid=48952 * Darkrifts * (+1120) /* Documentation */
21:42:49 <\oren\> > ([1..].length) > 6
21:42:50 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Int -> c0’
21:42:50 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[Integer]’
21:42:50 <lambdabot> In the first argument of ‘(.)’, namely ‘[1 .. ]’
21:42:52 <int-e> myname: there are lazy nats somewhere, which allow you to do things like genericLength [1..] > (6 :: <whatever the type is>)
21:43:28 <\oren\> apparently haskell isn't object oriented
21:43:39 <int-e> fortunately
21:43:46 <\oren\> indeed
21:45:49 <int-e> :t (&)
21:45:50 <lambdabot> a -> (a -> b) -> b
21:46:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48954&oldid=48953 * Darkrifts * (+115) /* Documentation */
21:46:20 <int-e> > ([1..]&length) > 6
21:46:24 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
21:46:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48956&oldid=48954 * Darkrifts * (-352) /* Documentation */
21:47:50 <\oren\> > foldr (\x y -> x | y) (map (\x -> x > 6) [1..])
21:47:52 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:18: parse error on input ‘|’
21:47:58 <\oren\> > foldr (\x y -> x or y) (map (\x -> x > 6) [1..])
21:48:00 <lambdabot> No instance for (Typeable t0)
21:48:00 <lambdabot> (maybe you haven't applied enough arguments to a function?)
21:48:00 <lambdabot> arising from a use of ‘show_M180418725283436766211592’
21:48:09 <\oren\> > foldr (\x y -> x || y) (map (\x -> x > 6) [1..])
21:48:11 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Bool’ with actual type ‘[Bool]’
21:48:11 <lambdabot> In the second argument of ‘foldr’, namely
21:48:11 <lambdabot> ‘(map (\ x -> x > 6) [1 .. ])’
21:48:40 <int-e> :t foldr
21:48:41 <lambdabot> Foldable t => (a -> b -> b) -> b -> t a -> b
21:48:50 <int-e> you need a starting value (second argument)
21:49:08 <int-e> @src or
21:49:08 <lambdabot> or = foldr (||) False
21:49:09 <\oren\> > foldr (\x y -> x || y) False (map (\x -> x > 6) [1..])
21:49:10 <lambdabot> True
21:49:20 <\oren\> there we go!
21:49:30 <int-e> @src any
21:49:30 <lambdabot> any p = or . map p
21:49:40 <int-e> > any (> 6) [1..]
21:49:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48957&oldid=48956 * Darkrifts * (+275)
21:49:41 <lambdabot> True
21:49:50 <\oren\> it figured out somehow that doing any more entries was useless
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22:48:48 <shachaf> What was the git article that someone in here linked the other day?
22:48:54 <shachaf> I think \oren\ refused to read it that time, too.
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22:56:13 <hppavilion[1]> "datums"
22:59:10 <int-e> I linked to http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/ and http://nyuccl.org/pages/gittutorial/ ... is it one of those?
23:00:36 <shachaf> Probably.
23:01:07 <shachaf> What changes would you make to git to make it possible to check out a subdirectory of a repository in a reasonable way?
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23:08:23 <int-e> you'd need a more elaborate send-pack/receive-pack pair, I think, one that is based on more information than just refs (commit objects). (https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Internals-Transfer-Protocols gives a glimpse into that protocol)
23:09:03 <int-e> alternatively you could just re-record the commit objects for a subdirectory
23:10:43 <shachaf> Well, imagine you could lazily load hash values as necessary. That seems like it could be doable, even if it would require changes to the protocol.
23:11:09 <shachaf> There's still the issue that commits are global, so you'd need the entire commit history for a repository to `git log` a subdirectory.
23:11:16 <int-e> I mean, that should be easy: Take each commit but replace the tree reference to a subdirectory and the parent references (since the commit ids will be different)...
23:11:24 <shachaf> I'm not what you can really do about that.
23:11:45 <shachaf> int-e: Oh, but then what happens when you want to push a changed version?
23:12:09 <int-e> nothing pretty
23:12:26 <shachaf> I was thinking you would just be checking out the whole repository, but not downloading the contents for the directories you aren't using.
23:12:36 <shachaf> Seems like that much ought to be pretty straightforward.
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23:14:07 <int-e> you didn't say that you want commits as well. in any case I was just thinking about what one could do without changing the send/receive protocol.
23:14:46 <shachaf> What I want is to be able to use git for a giant repository.
23:15:37 <shachaf> Say, a couple billion lines of code, and tens of thousands of developers. Just to arbitrarily choose some numbers.
23:15:45 <shachaf> Or maybe not git but something git-like. What sorts of changes would you need to make to how it works?
23:15:53 <int-e> look, just add a subdirectory command to the protocol :P
23:16:08 <int-e> it can't be that hard.... *runs*
23:16:16 <shachaf> It's not a question of the protocol.
23:16:46 <shachaf> Are you suggesting that when you clone a subdirectory, the server rewrites the entire commit history for that subdirectory to make it convenient for the client?
23:16:59 <int-e> no.
23:17:23 <int-e> I don't agree, it's very much a question of the protocol.
23:17:41 <shachaf> Well. OK. It's a question of the protocol, among other things.
23:19:10 <shachaf> Anyway there are other issues, like rename tracking.
23:19:47 <int-e> Sure, there's more. But the plumbing is there... you can read a commit, look at the tree, find the subdirectory you're interested in, then checkout that tree object.
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23:20:51 <shachaf> Right.
23:20:53 <int-e> To my mind the missing thing on the plumbing side is the selective transfer. The rest is porcellain... still tedious to write for sure.
23:21:03 <shachaf> But now how do you look at the commit history on that subdirectory?
23:21:51 <int-e> the way I imagine it you will have all the commit objects anyway...
23:22:05 <shachaf> Right.
23:22:27 <shachaf> But that makes for a pretty long commit history.
23:22:30 <int-e> and git log already supports selecting commits affecting certain paths.
23:22:52 * int-e shrugs
23:23:17 <shachaf> hg stores log information per file or directory, I think.
23:23:20 <shachaf> `` ls .hg
23:23:47 <HackEgo> 00changelog.i \ branch \ branchheads.cache \ cache \ dirstate \ last-message.txt \ requires \ store \ tags.cache \ undo.bookmarks \ undo.branch \ undo.desc \ undo.dirstate
23:24:04 <shachaf> `` find .hg | grep canary
23:24:25 <HackEgo> ​.hg/store/data/looptest/canary.i \ .hg/store/data/canary.orig \ .hg/store/data/canary.orig/canary.i \ .hg/store/data/canary.orig.i \ .hg/store/data/temp-canary.i \ .hg/store/data/canary.i \ .hg/store/data/wisdom/canary.i \ .hg/store/data/canary \ .hg/store/data/canary/test.i \ .hg/store/data/canary/hmm.i \ .hg/store/data/canary/canary.i
23:24:57 <shachaf> Do those store log history or something else? I don't remember, if I ever knew.
23:25:03 <shachaf> hg also tracks renames explicitly.
23:25:14 <shachaf> Maybe these sorts of reasons have to do with why Facebook chose hg instead of git.
23:26:31 <int-e> `` ls -la .hg/store/00*
23:26:36 <HackEgo> ​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 1402355 Jul 19 01:06 .hg/store/00changelog.d \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 564864 Jul 19 01:06 .hg/store/00changelog.i \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 1370860 Jul 19 01:06 .hg/store/00manifest.d \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 564032 Jul 19 01:06 .hg/store/00manifest.i
23:27:51 <zzo38> I chose fossil instead of hg or git
23:29:20 <shachaf> zzo38: I would be astonished if you chose a mainstream version control system.
23:29:58 <int-e> shachaf: http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read/behind-the-scenes.html ... so perhaps you won't win very much, unless you find ways to divide the 00changelog and 00manifest things into smaller pieces.
23:30:32 <int-e> ("win much" is in comparison to doing the same with git)
23:32:27 <int-e> Btw I actually dislike the fact that mercurial replicates file names in its storage...
23:32:31 <shachaf> I met Bryan once and he told me that hg was better suited to this sort of thing than git.
23:34:00 <int-e> But I can see that it's better suited to work over plain HTTP. So the whole protocol issue won't come up at all.
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23:35:36 <int-e> but in any case, the problem of fetching metadata of all those commits that happen elsewhere is not solved by hg.
23:35:57 <int-e> (not without investing extra work)
23:36:03 <shachaf> Of course.
23:37:03 <int-e> it was solved by CVS ;-)
23:37:21 * int-e hides behind a bush.
23:37:37 <shachaf> Of course.
23:37:55 <shachaf> Facebook uses svn on the server and hg on the client, I hear.
23:41:17 <int-e> Hmmm, true, SVN should actually be good at the partial checkout thing... but not with history? I know nothing about its internals.
23:42:40 <int-e> (All I really know is that git-svn is abysmally slow, but I don't know whether it's git-svn or svn itself that's being stupid there)
23:43:39 <int-e> and I bring up git-svn because that's the tool I use to clone an svn repo including history.
23:43:45 <quintopia> wow they're still talking about vcs
23:44:46 <shachaf> In svn you just ask the server for history, right?
23:51:14 <int-e> oh wow, this is elaborate... https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/subversion/libsvn_ra_svn/protocol
23:52:38 <izabera> http://www.duelist101.com/other-w101-guides/w101-spell-guides/wizard101-new-level-110-astral-spells/ OOOOOOHH after like 5 years we finally get a +300 enchantment
23:54:17 <Vorpal> int-e: git doesn't track renames??
23:54:25 <Vorpal> that seems pretty crappy
23:54:33 <shachaf> It detects renames.
23:55:47 <Vorpal> Also I remember reading somewhere that git doesn't include the author as part of the commit ID (the hash of it), which means two people can do the same change and they get the same hash, but with different authors listed
23:55:52 <Vorpal> that also seems stupid
23:56:06 <Vorpal> the commit message *may* need to be the same for that to happen, I don't remember
23:56:36 <shachaf> The author is part of the commit.
23:56:44 <Vorpal> I don't remember the details, just that some part of the meta data of the commit was not part of the hash
23:56:47 <Vorpal> shachaf: hm, okay
23:56:53 <shachaf> I.e. you hash the author, committer, directory, etc. to get a commit hash.
23:57:12 <Vorpal> I would hope so
23:59:12 <Vorpal> good night
23:59:18 <shachaf> @time Vorpal
2016-07-22
00:01:39 <int-e> the only thing that sounds related that I can think of off hand is that simple tags are not part of the history... and thus can be shifted around at will
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00:25:12 <fizzie> I played an actiony sort of game today, it was fun.
00:25:23 <shachaf> Which game?
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00:25:28 <fizzie> "SpeedRunners", I think.
00:25:43 <fizzie> At least as a four-player local multiplayer thing, it was fun.
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00:45:26 <hppavilion[1]> <shachaf> hg also tracks renames explicitly.
00:45:58 <hppavilion[1]> "\boirjan\ renamed a fucking file. Can you believe that asshole?"
00:47:02 <Elronnd> why the Hs?
00:50:02 <\oren\> wait control H is backspace, how did you even
00:50:25 <hppavilion[1]> Has anybody else done something like http://abstrusegoose.com/575?
00:50:28 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: me?
00:50:53 <\oren\> you put some control H's in shachaf's name
00:51:05 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Oh. That must have been my client when I copied the message.
00:51:40 <hppavilion[1]> Since when have we Abnormally Hebrified Languages?
00:51:44 <Sgeo> hppavilion[1], XChat or variant?
00:51:57 <Sgeo> HexChat. Ugh, yeah, I hate the copy behavior
00:52:22 <Sgeo> I think it's trying to copy the coloring
00:52:26 <\oren\> since I spelled channel
00:52:27 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah
00:52:36 <shachaf> Higgledy Piggledy
00:52:38 <hppavilion[1]> Wait, how do I change my CTCP replies?
00:52:56 <hppavilion[1]> I have it set to say "A Scheme REPL", but apparently it didn't
00:52:59 <hppavilion[1]> (Does it say both?)
00:53:04 <\oren\> לe׆נaצ׳
00:53:09 <Sgeo> hppavilion[1], no
00:53:16 <shachaf> \oren\: that makes no sense hth
00:53:24 <\oren\> ^ that's how to abnormally hebrefy channel
00:53:35 <hppavilion[1]> fungot isn't on :,O
00:53:45 <\oren\> shachaf: you said that yesterday
00:53:49 <Elronnd> \oren\: Do you speak hebrew?
00:53:52 <\oren\> no
00:53:56 <Elronnd> Aww
00:54:04 * Sgeo wishes he spoke Hebrew
00:54:08 <\oren\> I don't even really know the alphabet
00:54:09 <Elronnd> You have a hebrew-ish nick and just pasted some hebrew characters
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00:54:23 <hppavilion[1]> ...oh
00:54:24 <Sgeo> I can read things outloud if there are vowels, for the most part
00:55:07 <\oren\> Elronnd: my name is basically misspelled
00:55:12 <hppavilion[1]> I've been trying to learn Cthuvian (aka R'lyehian)
00:55:19 <shachaf> It's actually "orin"
00:55:32 <shachaf> As in "Corinthians".
00:55:40 <pikhq> I think there actually *are* some Hebrew speakers here, though.
00:55:42 <shachaf> little known fact
00:56:02 <\oren\> shachaf: it might have supposed to be that, but misspelled on my birth certificate maybe
00:56:15 <shachaf> pikhq: since when do you speak any words other than "pikhq" hth
00:56:26 <shachaf> isn't that how pokemons work
00:56:31 <\oren\> for a long time I was called "warren"
00:56:47 <pikhq> shachaf: Some Pokemon speak.
00:57:03 <\oren\> some people still call bme warren i don't really care
00:57:03 <pikhq> Most notably Meowth.
00:57:34 <shachaf> \oren\: have you considered moving to california
00:57:44 <shachaf> you can ease into it by moving to Ontario, CA
00:57:49 <quintopia> pikhq: genetic engineering, surely
00:57:51 <shachaf> which is basically where you are right now
00:58:06 <hppavilion[1]> It's very difficult to make a Cheetah robot in Boston, because everyone thinks you're making a Cheater robot
00:58:07 <\oren\> I've been to california, I didn't like it
00:58:19 <shachaf> Was it the food?
00:58:24 <shachaf> zzo38 says that the food in Canada is better.
00:58:26 <\oren\> too hot
00:58:32 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
00:58:33 <lambdabot> KOAK 212353Z 26016KT 10SM FEW010 21/13 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP194 T02060133 10217 20183 58001
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00:58:42 <pikhq> California's a big state with quite a lot of different environments in it.
00:58:42 <hppavilion[1]> I honestly am contemplating fleeing to Canada in the event of a Trump presidency
00:58:46 <shachaf> @metar CYYZ
00:58:47 <lambdabot> CYYZ 212300Z 23016G23KT 15SM FEW060 BKN170 OVC250 30/20 A2991 RMK CU1AC5CI2 SLP127 DENSITY ALT 2400FT
00:58:56 <shachaf> WHO'S TOO HOT NOW HTH
00:59:01 <pikhq> \oren\: Mean temperature in SF is like 68F...
00:59:19 <shachaf> @google 68 F in C
00:59:20 <lambdabot> http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/temperature/fahrenheit-to-celsius.htm
00:59:20 <lambdabot> Title: Fahrenheit to Celsius conversion (�F to �C)
00:59:22 <shachaf> That used to work.
00:59:33 <pikhq> 20 C.
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00:59:48 <hppavilion[1]> Wow, Hillary's chances of winning keep falling and Trump's keep going up, according to 538
00:59:55 <shachaf> pikhq: Ah, exactly 20 C.
01:00:13 <\oren\> Also, california is in the USA
01:00:30 <\oren\> I don't want to be killed by american police
01:00:32 <hppavilion[1]> Is muni.org the same everywhere, or is there some black magic going on with the DNS?
01:00:43 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Only Canadian police for you?
01:00:45 <shachaf> Being in the USA is great.
01:00:54 <hppavilion[1]> @metar PAMR
01:00:54 <shachaf> You can get the best health care money can buy.
01:00:54 <lambdabot> PAMR 212353Z 17005KT 10SM BKN046 BKN055 OVC070 22/12 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP100 60001 T02170122 10217 20167 58009
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01:01:13 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: yeah, our police don't kill people all the time
01:01:15 <pikhq> \oren\: Though that is *really* rare, especially when you're white, that is a genuine concern.
01:01:17 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, interesting
01:01:24 <\oren\> they give people parking tickets
01:01:27 <fizzie> I was in Mountain View in March, and it was like summer in Finland.
01:01:40 <shachaf> fizzie: I was in Finland approximately a decade ago.
01:01:48 <shachaf> It was 30 degrees in Helsinki.
01:01:49 <fizzie> Was it like March in Mountain View?
01:01:51 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Mountain view California?
01:01:52 <shachaf> Ridiculous.
01:01:55 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: Yes.
01:02:01 <\oren\> fizzie: Can I move to finland?
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01:02:02 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
01:02:04 <shachaf> fizzie works for The Man
01:02:08 <fizzie> shachaf: Well, it happens. Mostly not more than a day or two a year.
01:02:25 <hppavilion[1]> We have a Mountain View here, but it's kind of the part of town you try to avoid
01:02:27 <shachaf> fizzie: when are you going to mountain view next
01:02:36 <pikhq> Mountain View is normally a bit warmer than SF. Still, 30 C is rather warm for Mountain View.
01:02:37 <fizzie> shachaf: October, I think.
01:02:54 <hppavilion[1]> I hear that Sweden is having trouble where gangrapes are to them like mass shootings are to Americans
01:03:01 <pikhq> Clearly there should be a #esoteric meeting in October.
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01:03:19 <quintopia> \oren\: are you black?
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01:03:28 <shachaf> How many bay area folks are in here?
01:03:35 <\oren\> quintopia: no, very very white
01:03:47 <quintopia> \oren\: oh okay then you don't have to worry about the police so much here
01:03:54 <\oren\> as in, russian and irish and quebecois
01:03:55 <shachaf> Is it only me and pikhq?
01:04:06 <fizzie> There was supposed to be a meet-up in Birmingham, but it didn't happen.
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01:04:13 <pikhq> I dunno of anyone else, butt that might just be ignorance.
01:04:37 <shachaf> I've met several people who are or were in here in the bay area, but I think they've mostly left either the area or the channel.
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01:04:50 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: I think a better month for #esoteric meetups would be Quintilis
01:05:01 <shachaf> @time lambdabot
01:05:01 <lambdabot> I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time?
01:05:10 <shachaf> Aha, the Internet is also in Mountain View.
01:05:20 <hppavilion[1]> Yes; probably the server's locale
01:05:23 <\oren\> why don't we all go to Oktoberfest!
01:05:44 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Because I can't legally drink yet!
01:05:44 <pikhq> shachaf: Yes, which is why Google Standard Time is the only time.
01:05:46 <shachaf> Oh, Taneb was going to visit to pick up some Magic: The Gathering cards from me.
01:05:48 <quintopia> pikhq: 30C sounds like every day this month here
01:05:58 <hppavilion[1]> Is there a way to change month names on W10...?
01:06:04 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: in Germany?
01:06:07 <pikhq> (on a more serious note, grumble.)
01:06:31 <quintopia> pikhq: i take it back. 30C is significantly cooler than it's been this month. i'd gladly take 30C.
01:06:32 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: ...no :/
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01:06:38 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: as in, are you 16?
01:06:39 <shachaf> @metar KPHX
01:06:39 <lambdabot> KPHX 212351Z 28004KT 10SM FEW110 SCT250 43/12 A2980 RMK AO2 SLP067 CB DSNT N-NE AND E-SE AND S T04330122 10444 20389 56023
01:06:46 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
01:06:46 <lambdabot> EGLL 212350Z AUTO 31005KT 290V350 9999 -RA NCD 18/14 Q1018 NOSIG
01:06:53 <fizzie> It's finally getting cooler.
01:06:59 <fizzie> Still 26.7 degrees inside.
01:07:02 <hppavilion[1]> \oren\: Not sure if I want to answer that
01:07:21 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: you're under 16 holy crap i'm an old man
01:07:29 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah, pretty much
01:07:32 <shachaf> \oldren\
01:07:34 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: have you considered just...turning 18 already?
01:07:40 <quintopia> coily
01:07:52 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Unfortunately, US law prohibits rapid aging
01:08:08 <hppavilion[1]> Also, attempting suicide is punishable by death
01:08:14 <hppavilion[1]> Just thought I should say that
01:08:25 <\oren\> Agh I'm 23 what have I done with my life aaaaaaaaa
01:08:29 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: sounds like you are doing the opposite of rapid aging. is aging too slowly also banned?
01:08:45 <hppavilion[1]> No, actually; it's mandatory
01:08:49 <shachaf> \oren\: whoa, you are old
01:08:51 <\oren\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
01:08:54 <quintopia> \oren\: oh good you're still young enough to make a difference and accomplish something. go get her done!
01:09:04 <hppavilion[1]> That's why we can't have swearing on televish
01:09:06 <hppavilion[1]> *television
01:09:14 <pikhq> I'm 26. Far too late for that.
01:09:26 <shachaf> \oren\: It's a sobering thought, isn't it, that by the time Galois was your age, he had been dead for three years.
01:09:28 <pikhq> I should just commission my tombstone at this rate.
01:09:34 <fizzie> Well, oerjan's, like, hundreds, I hear.
01:09:40 <quintopia> pikhq: oh dear. if you aren't already raking in the money by 26, you're hopeless
01:09:42 <pikhq> oerjan is immortal.
01:09:49 <shachaf> pikhq: Can you afford bay area tombstone rates?
01:10:01 <pikhq> shachaf: Absolutely not.
01:10:06 <shachaf> I should probably start raking in the money.
01:10:10 <quintopia> (all of the big name streamers on twitch are approximately 26)
01:10:19 <shachaf> Gotta get in the 1%
01:10:21 <FireFly> \oren\: don't worry, I'm in the same boat
01:10:35 <pikhq> I might be able to afford bay area cardboard box rates.
01:10:35 <quintopia> FireFly: where is the boat going? can i come
01:10:37 <shachaf> The direct boat to oldstown?
01:10:41 <pikhq> But only in a scow location.
01:10:48 <FireFly> Who knows
01:10:50 <pikhq> Maybe Gilroy.
01:10:52 <FireFly> It's probably not a good boat
01:11:05 <quintopia> oh is it sinking :C
01:11:16 <shachaf> Do you think death could possibly be a boat?
01:11:36 <quintopia> shachaf: a boat can't ride a white horse hth
01:11:44 <shachaf> pikhq: Occasionally I look at real estate prices in the bay area and then compare them to anywhere else in the country.
01:11:54 <shachaf> The goal is to feel a little sad.
01:12:38 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: Here, muni.org seems to be the website for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Municipal_Railway
01:12:51 <hppavilion[1]> Huh
01:13:03 <shachaf> But only until you open the link.
01:13:04 <hppavilion[1]> Because for me, it's the website for my hometown
01:13:10 <hppavilion[1]> Oh?
01:13:30 <shachaf> After you open the link it seems to be the website for the municipality of Anchorage, AK.
01:13:44 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, huh
01:13:47 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: you come from anchorage?
01:13:48 <hppavilion[1]> Interesting
01:13:50 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Yes
01:13:54 <quintopia> crzy
01:14:06 <pikhq> shachaf: I think the way to deal with a property purchase in the bay area is to save up to buy a house in the area... And then retire somewhere else in the country.
01:14:07 <shachaf> pikhq: Maybe I ought to move to Cleveland, OH
01:14:10 <hppavilion[1]> (Well, I lived in Palmer, AK until I was about 12)
01:14:30 <quintopia> shachaf: is cleveland ok. should i see it.
01:14:37 <shachaf> quintopia: never been there hth
01:14:43 <pikhq> Home prices look about high enough to be a comfortable retirement-at-30 anywhere else.
01:14:45 <quintopia> lemme know
01:15:14 <shachaf> pikhq: Depends on how far and small you go, probably.
01:16:02 <boily> *munch munch munch* (quinthellopia!)
01:16:16 <boily> oerjan is immortal?
01:16:26 <shachaf> boily: well, there's no evidence to the contrary
01:16:41 <boily> hellochaf. indeed.
01:17:31 <quintopia> shachaf: there is no evidence contradicting my own immortality either
01:17:32 <FireFly> The whole "in a boat" thing earlier reminds me of a sketch that is unfortunately in swedish <.<
01:17:34 <quintopia> nor yours
01:17:39 <quintopia> are we all immortal here?
01:17:40 <shachaf> quintopia: speak for yourself hth
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01:18:07 <quintopia> shachaf: do you have evidence you are mortal? please share with the class
01:18:14 <shachaf> no
01:18:15 <shachaf> hi copumpkin
01:18:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48958&oldid=34505 * Conor O'Brien * (+3) /* Pi to 42 decimals */ was 40 decimals, not 42
01:18:29 <boily> hellopumpkin.
01:18:43 <shachaf> copumpkin never checks IRC.
01:18:55 <boily> `? oerjan
01:19:01 <HackEgo> Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
01:19:14 <boily> `` sed -i 's/emeritus/emeritus immortal/' wisdom/oerjan
01:19:20 <HackEgo> No output.
01:19:21 <shachaf> immoritus
01:19:27 <shachaf> boily: why not slwd
01:19:33 <boily> I forgot how to slwd hth
01:19:43 <boily> `` sed -i 's/emeritus immortal/immoritus/' wisdom/oerjan
01:19:47 <HackEgo> No output.
01:19:51 <shachaf> `slwd oerjan//s/emeritus/emeritus immortal/
01:19:55 <shachaf> hth
01:19:58 <quintopia> how many more adjectives do we have room for in oerjan's wisdoom
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01:20:08 <shachaf> -5
01:20:21 <hppavilion[1]> The human condition only has a 93% mortality rate
01:20:27 <boily> as long as the wisdoerjan is shorter than mine, everything's fine.
01:20:32 <hppavilion[1]> Not great, but not terrible either
01:20:33 <shachaf> `? shachaf
01:20:35 <HackEgo> Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him.
01:20:38 <boily> hppavellon[1]. 93%
01:20:44 <quintopia> `? boily
01:20:46 <HackEgo> ​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist.
01:20:48 <FireFly> `? slwd
01:20:50 <HackEgo> ​`slwd <wisdom name>//<sed script>
01:20:57 <FireFly> what doth slwd stand for?
01:20:58 <quintopia> boily: yours is shorter
01:21:02 <shachaf> sled wisdom
01:21:12 <boily> UNACCEPTABLE!
01:21:31 <FireFly> and sled?
01:21:37 <shachaf> slash sed
01:21:38 <FireFly> It's clearly a pun on sed, but
01:21:40 <quintopia> boily: are you a beer dealer yet?
01:21:40 <FireFly> ah
01:21:46 <shachaf> `sled
01:21:49 <HackEgo> usage: sled file//script
01:21:53 <shachaf> `sled //
01:21:54 <HackEgo> usage: sled file//script
01:22:04 <shachaf> `sled /etc/passwd//
01:22:04 <HackEgo> Rosebud!
01:24:09 <boily> quintopia: nearly. Postes Canada works, so it shall come.
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01:26:42 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: So slwd is an abbreviation of an abbreviation of an abbreviation of an abbreviation?
01:27:05 <hppavilion[1]> editor -> ed; +stream -> sed; +slash -> sled; +wisdom -> slwd
01:28:57 <shachaf> "slwd" = "scripts lie with dogs"
01:29:06 <shachaf> ("dog" means "pooch")
01:29:15 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: it is a string of symbols which symbolizes a thing in a mnemonic fashion hth
01:29:51 <shachaf> copumpkin has a pooch
01:30:24 <hppavilion[1]> "if thy script lieth with dog, as it lieth with bash, then it has committed an abomination and should be rm'd"
01:30:44 <quintopia> obvi the best yoshis island character http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/ssbi/images/3/3e/Poochy.png/revision/latest?cb=20150624001047
01:31:05 <shachaf> I was thinking more of "let sleeping dogs lie".
01:31:20 <quintopia> let lying dogs sleep
01:32:04 <Yurume_> let dogging sleeps lie
01:32:13 <shachaf> `welcome Yurume_
01:32:15 <HackEgo> Yurume_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:32:22 <boily> `relcome Yurume_
01:32:23 <Yurume_> ;)
01:32:38 <shachaf> reduntoily
01:32:38 <HackEgo> Yurume_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:32:41 <quintopia> we don't permit dogging here
01:32:53 <boily> Yurume_ is the Most `Relcomed :D
01:32:53 <shachaf> Or perhaps "redundoily"
01:32:59 <Yurume_> it is always an interesting experience that I have welcomed several times
01:33:01 <boily> redundoily hth.
01:33:02 <Yurume_> yeah
01:33:14 <Yurume_> I have been*
01:33:17 <shachaf> Who is Yurume_?
01:33:30 <Yurume_> equals to lifthrasiir
01:33:35 <shachaf> `? Yurume
01:33:41 <HackEgo> Yurume? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:33:43 <quintopia> `relcome Yurume_
01:33:46 <Yurume_> I happen to use a mobile bouncer
01:33:46 <HackEgo> Yurume_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:33:46 <quintopia> for good measure
01:33:50 <Yurume_> wat
01:34:11 <quintopia> i'm trying to set a record
01:34:43 <quintopia> ttg bb
01:34:52 <hppavilion[1]> Let colorless green dreams sleep furiously
01:35:03 <boily> bonnuitopia!
01:35:18 <FireFly> So many nicks
01:35:45 <boily> Firellofly.
01:35:51 <FireFly> hoily
01:49:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14/implementation.ijs]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48959 * Conor O'Brien * (+1979) Added implementation for Apple3.14
01:50:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14/implementation.ijs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48960&oldid=48959 * Conor O'Brien * (+29) added tag
01:50:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14/implementation.ijs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48961&oldid=48960 * Conor O'Brien * (+2) oops
01:51:02 <boily> wait wait wait. are those legit edits made to the wiki???
01:51:45 <FireFly> J edits, no less
01:52:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48962&oldid=48958 * Conor O'Brien * (+129) Added implementation for Apple3.14
01:58:02 <Sgeo> Anyone who thinks Perl is line noise has never seen J.
02:02:02 <boily> J is the esotericest business language out there.
02:02:41 <FireFly> I'd say J is noisier than K to someone unfamiliar with the languages
02:02:59 <FireFly> Or well, would probably be. I find K less noisy and I'm more proficient in J than K, so..
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02:28:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48964&oldid=48957 * Darkrifts * (+66) /* Documentation */
02:40:48 <Sgeo> I saw something suggesting that Pokemon TCG Online is worse pay2win than Hearthstone because with Hearthstone you can be competitive with free or common cards and not so much with Pokemon, anyone know if that's true?
02:41:05 <Sgeo> Also it's kind of annoying how there are so many Pokemon cards with the same name but different effects
02:41:48 <Sgeo> Like all these Mews http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mew_(TCG)
02:43:34 <FireFly> I don't know how PTCG Online works, but I'd agree about that statement re. Hearthstone
02:43:53 <FireFly> and having played PTCG offline I could see how it'd be more biased towards getting good cards than Hearthstone is
02:45:16 <FireFly> Sgeo: yeah, they're more-or-less separate creatures that just happen to share names.. the only point I can think of where the name matters is for evolution
02:45:36 <Sgeo> FireFly, and for being able to sanely discuss the game?
02:45:41 <FireFly> Oh sure
02:46:16 <FireFly> I meant it's the only case I can think of where giving each one a separate name would alter the game mechanics
02:46:18 <FireFly> if that makes sense
02:46:24 <Sgeo> Ah
02:47:19 <Sgeo> hmm https://www.reddit.com/r/ptcgo/comments/30iy86/is_ptcgo_fun_fair_competitive_or_paytowin/
02:47:28 <FireFly> The Pokemon TCG gameboy games refer to different creatures as "Mew Lv23" and so on since the level (and some other unnecessary info) was given on older cards.. but that hasn't been included in cards for a long time now I think
02:48:15 <FireFly> Hmm, maybe I should try PTCGO
02:48:37 <FireFly> When I last looked at it I think it didn't have a free-to-play option, but that was before Hearthstone became a thing..
02:49:00 <FireFly> Or maybe it was some predecessor to the current PTCGO that I looked at, I dunno
02:50:39 <FireFly> "The difference is no disenchanting / crafting. Instead you can trade unopened boosters (not the 5card F2P ones, ones from RNG rewards and buying) for cards on a market." hm, that seems like a strike toward PTCG
02:50:45 <FireFly> +O
02:53:50 <Sgeo> hmm https://www.reddit.com/r/TruePokemon/comments/2qzqwa/so_ive_been_playing_pokemon_tcg_online_and_i/ :(
02:54:46 <FireFly> "TruePokemon" .. I guess there's subreddits for everything
02:56:38 <shachaf> Markets are TG.
03:03:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48965&oldid=48964 * Darkrifts * (+911)
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03:30:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Conor O'Brien]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48967&oldid=48963 * Conor O'Brien * (+48) /* Languages I have implemented */
03:32:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[BrainCurses]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48968&oldid=34662 * Conor O'Brien * (+164) Added implementation for BrainCurses
03:38:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[BrainCurses/implementation.js]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48969&oldid=48966 * Conor O'Brien * (+32) /* Implementation */
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04:25:27 <shachaf> :t isJust
04:25:28 <lambdabot> Maybe a -> Bool
04:25:41 <shachaf> oerjan: Oughtn't that function have a wisdom entry?
04:26:06 <shachaf> Monad `isJust` (Monoid `in` Endo)
04:27:13 <FireFly> a wisdom entry would do it justice
04:27:53 <shachaf> `? justice
04:28:17 <HackEgo> Justice is just behavior or treatment.
04:28:25 <shachaf> `le/rn frozen water/Frozen water is just ice.
04:28:31 <HackEgo> Learned «frozen water»
04:28:49 <prooftechnique> I'm amazed that justice has such a straightforward wisdom entry
04:29:00 <shachaf> It's a pun.
04:29:20 <prooftechnique> Ah, I see it, now
04:30:38 <prooftechnique> I wonder if there's a good joke to be made about Crimean Punishment
04:31:07 <shachaf> A good joke? I doubt it.
04:31:19 <shachaf> There are under a dozen good jokes in wisdom/, I think.
04:32:58 <FireFly> Good jokes are boring anyway
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05:14:54 <zzo38> How to make both way popen?
05:23:44 <izabera> with a socket instead of a pipe
05:24:15 <izabera> and you'll probably want your new popen to return two FILEs
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05:29:18 <izabera> actually only one would be ok, and make it non seekable
05:29:31 <izabera> it shouldn't be too hard with fopencookie
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05:39:13 <hppavilion[1]> NEW STUDY: There are approximately 2713839 people in America who are (a) LGBQ and (b) oppose gay marriage
05:39:46 <izabera> "approdimately"?
05:39:49 <izabera> err
05:39:52 <izabera> "approximately"?
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05:45:04 <pikhq> hppavilion[1]: That smells.
05:45:52 <pikhq> That's approximately 25% of the LGBT population...
05:46:08 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: ...is it?
05:46:11 <hppavilion[1]> Let me check my mat
05:46:13 <hppavilion[1]> *math
05:46:19 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, wait, yes, correct
05:46:32 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: 37%*2.3%*318,900,000
05:47:01 <hppavilion[1]> 37% is % americans opposing gay marriage, 2.3% is % americans gay (or bi), 318,900,000 is american population
05:47:56 <pikhq> That naively assumes that opposition to gay marriage is independent of being LGBT.
05:47:59 <pikhq> Which is dubious.
05:48:32 <alercah> ^
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06:15:29 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, the Chicago franchise takes place in the same universe as Law & Order: SVU
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06:16:08 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, AND they have Chicago Justice
06:39:16 <Sgeo> "Arceus appears in the TCG in all types but Dragon and Fairy, and a player can have as many Arceus cards in their deck as they like, unlike all other cards in the game (besides Basic Energy cards). "
06:39:33 <Sgeo> That's... appropriately special for a special pokemon I guess?
06:40:12 <Sgeo> FireFly, is the number of cards limitation based on name or card itself?
06:44:18 <hppavilion[1]> I feel cliche, but I really do want to flee if Trump is elected. I need to find a country though...
06:44:57 <hppavilion[1]> Canada is close, but I'm quite a fan of the UK because I'm an American and we all love England
06:45:29 <hppavilion[1]> Singapore and Ecuador are apparently smart choices for Quality of Life and Cost of Living, respectively
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07:25:51 <myname> uk, for your personal brexit
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08:38:31 <izabera> i sorta made that bidirectional popen
08:39:22 <izabera> https://gist.github.com/izabera/bd04dc810b4967cbbf449fb5daea625c possibly not the best code ever written but it seems to be working
08:39:41 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, porn searches took a massive dive on Sunday, July 17
08:40:23 <hppavilion[1]> And it isn't attributable to it being Sunday, because this isn't a trend
08:41:03 <hppavilion[1]> (in fact, searches- which peak on the weekend, of course- don't seem to be affected in any meaningful way by sunday)
08:42:52 <LKoen> I watched a movie once where industrial spies relied on the porn searches from employees of a concurrent company to predict how well it would be doing
08:55:15 <hppavilion[1]> `? wegian
08:55:33 <hppavilion[1]> LKoen: ...I have no idea how that could possibly work
08:55:59 <LKoen> hppavilion[1]: well apparently those would go up and down according to the mood of the employees? :/
08:57:22 <HackEgo> wegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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11:43:27 <boily> `wisdom
11:44:06 <HackEgo> the question//The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master.
12:03:07 <b_jonas> `dateu
12:03:13 <b_jonas> it's not April's fool, right?
12:03:19 <HackEgo> 2016-07-22 11:03:07.800921000+00:00
12:04:35 <fizzie> You're nobody's fool.
12:04:52 <boily> @localtime b_jonas
12:05:20 <boily> either b_jonas has no time, isn't local, or there aren't any b_jonas.
12:05:42 <b_jonas> boily: my localtime is irrelevant, I'm reading stuff from the internets and what to tell if it's april's fool posts, its their localtime that matters
12:08:16 <olsner> @localtime boily
12:08:17 <lambdabot> Local time for boily is Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:08:16 -0400
12:09:07 <olsner> early morning! I'm never up that early
12:10:52 <boily> hellolsner. been up since 6am hth
12:11:37 <olsner> impressive!
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12:25:46 <b_jonas> It's a pity there are practically no equipment that give protection to a creature.
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12:26:15 <b_jonas> Probably because they started to print very little protection a little after they started to print equipment
12:26:47 <b_jonas> And protection didn't get in the first batch of equipment in the Mirrodin block
12:26:53 <b_jonas> or in Lorwyn
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12:27:07 <hkgit03> b_jonas: what are you talking about?
12:27:14 <b_jonas> M:tG
12:27:49 <hkgit03> Oh, that explains
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13:53:42 <FireFly> @tell Sgeo <Sgeo> FireFly, is the number of cards limitation based on name or card itself? ← oh, good point. it's based on the name, so that is another case where it matters
13:53:42 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
13:55:37 <hkgit03> @tell someone something nice
13:55:38 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
13:55:45 <hkgit03> Will never happen
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15:27:48 <oerjan> @messages-load
15:27:48 <lambdabot> int-e said 1d 19h 13m 57s ago: uh, GG... could that be Zola?
15:28:18 <LKoen> does lambdabot not care about vowels?
15:28:26 <LKoen> @messages-lood
15:28:26 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
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15:29:21 <ybden> @messages-lunar
15:29:21 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
15:29:23 <oerjan> int-e: plausible. or the clank lucrezia. or that madwa person (who might work for either). or even martellus, if he's smart enough.
15:29:33 <ybden> @messages-loid
15:29:33 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:29:37 <quintopia> @kessages-loud
15:29:37 <oerjan> LKoen: edit distance hth
15:29:37 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:29:41 <ybden> @messages-liid
15:29:41 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:29:44 <ybden> @messages-l
15:29:44 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:29:52 <ybden> @messages-luuu
15:29:52 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:29:54 <ybden> @messages-luuuuuuuu
15:29:54 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
15:29:57 <ybden> hm
15:30:02 <ybden> @messages-lun
15:30:02 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:30:04 <oerjan> ybden: a prefix of the true form is also special cased
15:30:19 <ybden> Hm
15:30:22 <oerjan> (but you need at least up to the - because @messages is also a command.
15:30:24 <oerjan> )
15:30:36 <quintopia> fancy
15:30:47 <LKoen> @messages-oldu
15:30:47 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
15:30:53 <LKoen> @messages-old
15:30:53 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
15:31:01 <LKoen> interesting
15:32:56 <oerjan> int-e: it's likely that zola's and the clank's control are mingled, they do have _some_ common goals after all.
15:34:10 <oerjan> LKoen: no swaps, only insertions, deletions and replacements
15:34:26 <LKoen> okay
15:34:40 <LKoen> and the distance must be at most two of those operations?
15:34:46 <oerjan> yeah
15:35:10 <int-e> oerjan: she's also one of the loose ends... and let me check today's comic...
15:35:22 <oerjan> oh you haven't done that
15:35:45 <oerjan> your question still makes sense with it, though
15:35:46 <LKoen> I'm going to assume the no swap rule is because that would crash the required number of operations to validate commands
15:36:18 <oerjan> as violetta said, most of the smoke knights are wasped
15:36:50 <int-e> oerjan: right but it seems more likely now that two days ago :)
15:37:14 <oerjan> LKoen: i dunno. assuming only neighborhood swaps are allowed, there's probably a reasonable algorithm which i however don't know.
15:37:24 <oerjan> *-hood
15:38:09 <LKoen> mmh
15:38:53 <zemhill__> david_werecat.jackal: points 11.88, score 33.39, rank 5/47 (--)
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15:39:23 <oerjan> more bfjoust? i noticed a web one the other day.
15:39:32 <oerjan> which got second place.
15:40:51 <int-e> anyone here reading Gaia? That knife is scary...
15:42:03 <quintopia> oerjan: tis the season (again)
15:43:21 <b_jonas> int-e: huh, what is that?
15:43:32 <oerjan> int-e: alas. btw this means the two knights following agatha's team should be likely to be wasped too, although if they had orders from the Other they'd probably not have fought Madwa.
15:43:45 <oerjan> *accompanying
15:44:03 <int-e> oerjan: hmm, is Agatha's wasp eater around?
15:44:13 <oerjan> int-e: oh, right.
15:44:31 * oerjan suddenly remembered that was one of the subtle english distinctions he learned in school.
15:45:10 <oerjan> int-e: i remember thinking that was a bit of a plot hole.
15:45:40 <oerjan> but maybe martellus and seffie are smart enough to avoid those knights.
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15:46:23 <oerjan> otoh if they had an actual detection method, wouldn't they have tried rooting them out...
15:46:35 <oerjan> (so they probably don't.)
15:46:46 <int-e> b_jonas: yet another webcomic, I'm referring to http://www.sandraandwoo.com/gaia/2016/07/15/monster-026/ ff.
15:47:12 <b_jonas> int-e: I see
15:47:22 <oerjan> i suppose they could, like tarvek, have prevented them getting wasped in the first place.
15:48:08 <int-e> Well if they're with Zola they're highly suspect anyway :P
15:49:50 <oerjan> right. i'm not sure if zola's family (the mongfishes, other than lucrezia) were supposed to have access to smoke nights or not...
15:50:03 <oerjan> oh hm
15:50:15 <oerjan> but clank lucrezia is a "sturmvoraus", so would.
15:51:02 * oerjan noticed the term "lunevka" on the wiki
15:51:23 <int-e> haha
15:53:21 <oerjan> the hydra seems to have made slow progress since last i was here, it's up to 132800 cuts with nothing more pruned from the rightmost dire branch
15:53:47 <oerjan> however, its neighbors have got pruned, so it's not like it's at a standstill.
15:54:33 <b_jonas> `dateu
15:54:57 <b_jonas> 2016-07-22 14:54:50
15:56:14 <HackEgo> 2016-07-22 14:55:40.246198000+00:00
15:56:29 <oerjan> https://imgur.com/a/pQorv
15:57:13 <b_jonas> oerjan: heh, that shows other tabs you have open
15:58:50 <oerjan> i know
15:58:56 <oerjan> just to keep you guessing :P
15:59:24 <oerjan> it was hard enough for me to remember what key to use not to get the whole desktop
16:00:44 <oerjan> found the previous one at 74k https://imgur.com/a/CKzBn
16:01:44 <b_jonas> heh, that even has colored tabs
16:01:56 <b_jonas> hmm actually, the newest one has too
16:02:02 <oerjan> well duh
16:04:09 <oerjan> i think the last cut from the rightmost dire was around 65000
16:04:19 <oerjan> so it's doubled since.
16:05:37 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
16:05:37 <lambdabot> ENVA 221450Z 27009KT 9999 7000W TSRA FEW054TCU SCT059CB 20/16 Q1017 TEMPO SHRA RMK WIND 670FT 20006KT
16:05:47 <oerjan> not as hot as yesterday
16:06:29 <int-e> @metar LOWI
16:06:29 <lambdabot> LOWI 221450Z 26012KT 220V300 9999 FEW060 BKN080 FEW080CB 21/16 Q1015 NOSIG
16:16:30 <prooftechnique> oerjan: I'm really curious about Shtetl
16:17:09 <prooftechnique> It has the default bluehost favicon, so it could be anything
16:20:42 <oerjan> it shouldn't be too hard to guess hth
16:21:50 <oerjan> (since i keep referring to that site)
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16:25:14 <\oren\> Nintendo really can't be blamed... They didn't know that in most of the world it's unsafe to wander around randomly looking for Pokemon
16:26:28 <\oren\> I mean, sure, you can walk around safely at 3 AM in Tokyo and run into nothing more scary than a puking salaryman, but in, say, Toronto... different story.
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16:29:22 <oerjan> "and Bosnian players have been warned to stay out of minefields left over from the 1990's Bosnian War."
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16:31:00 <fizzie> oerjan: But what if it's a *rare* Pokémon!
16:31:33 <fizzie> (Incidentally, nobody seems to generally bother with the é.)
16:34:39 <oerjan> fizzie: then use a mine dog to fetch it, duh
16:34:52 * oerjan needs to speed up logreading today
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16:42:45 <\oren\> fizzie: well it's just a remider for the unfamiliar to the pronounciation
16:44:12 <\oren\> it's "poke eh mon" not "poke ee mon" and DEFINITELY not "poke ee man"
16:46:54 <\oren\> for people who know romaji, it's not necessary to have a accent
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16:48:07 <\oren\> shachellof, hellackego!
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16:48:59 <\oren\> hmm that wasn;t very creative
16:49:04 <\oren\> oh!
16:49:09 <\oren\> shaciao!
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16:52:03 <oerjan> some more pruning at the second-to-rightmost level 2 branch
16:52:17 <\oren\> lambuenos botardes!
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17:32:14 <oerjan> `? isJust
17:32:29 <HackEgo> isJust? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:32:55 <oerjan> `learn isJust is just a Haskell function to check if a value is Just.
17:33:06 <HackEgo> Learned 'isjust': isJust is just a Haskell function to check if a value is Just.
17:34:02 <oerjan> shachaf: hth
17:36:27 <oerjan> `? Crimean punishment
17:36:28 <HackEgo> Crimean punishment? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:37:59 <oerjan> hm the hydra seems to be making important cuts just as i'm not watching
17:38:20 <oerjan> now down to just one side branch of that old dire one
17:38:37 <int-e> isJust is best served cold... hmm... I'm mixing something up here.
17:38:39 <oerjan> *neighbor branch
17:38:46 <oerjan> `? justice
17:38:54 <oerjan> `? cold water
17:38:56 <HackEgo> Justice is just behavior or treatment.
17:38:59 <HackEgo> cold water? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:39:11 <oerjan> `? frozen water
17:39:14 <HackEgo> Frozen water is just ice.
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17:45:35 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; echo *wegian*
17:45:36 <HackEgo> ​*wegian*
17:45:39 <oerjan> huh
17:49:09 <oerjan> <hkgit03> Will never happen <-- there's actually a someone, so if they're in a channel with lambdabot, it might.
17:49:21 <oerjan> hm gone.
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17:56:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck implementations]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48970&oldid=48887 * 86.219.120.189 * (+161) /* Optimizing implementations */
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17:58:41 <shachaf> \oren\: please recall that the "ch" in my name is not pronounced as in "chair" hth
17:59:46 <shachaf> oerjan: you need parametricity (or function equality) to check whether a value is Just hth
18:00:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck implementations]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48971&oldid=48970 * 86.219.120.189 * (-1) /* Optimizing implementations */
18:01:25 <oerjan> *sigh*
18:02:08 <oerjan> `learn isJust is just a Haskell function to check if a value is Just a.
18:02:20 <HackEgo> Relearned 'isjust': isJust is just a Haskell function to check if a value is Just a.
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18:25:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Hardman1 * New user account
18:32:11 <fizzie> Every time I see a new user creation, I start thinking whether it's them spammers again.
18:32:30 <Zekka> in not long I'm gonna make an account
18:32:35 <Zekka> it will make you shake
18:32:36 <Zekka> (for real)
18:32:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Folvenpoacharlesy * New user account
18:32:58 <Zekka> that one's not me
18:34:13 <fizzie> Hey, it is in fact a spammer.
18:34:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Dfdhgfhj]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48972 * Folvenpoacharlesy * (+4) Created page with "sgfj"
18:34:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Fizzie * blocked [[User:Folvenpoacharlesy]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming attempt.
18:35:01 <fizzie> Attempting to figure out the filter, I presume.
18:35:36 <Zekka> Be nice, for all you know "sgfj" is a prime number finder
18:35:55 <fizzie> No, they tried to create a very clear spam page beforehand.
18:36:12 <shachaf> fizzie: What will you do if the spammer starts spamming again in two decades?
18:36:32 <fizzie> shachaf: I don't know why, but we've had these 20-year blocks instead of indefinite ones for some reason.
18:36:36 <fizzie> Or maybe 24-year.
18:36:39 <fizzie> I keep forgetting.
18:36:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[Dfdhgfhj]]": spam
18:36:59 <shachaf> You should ban them until 2038.
18:38:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Fizzie * blocked [[User:Hardman1]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Attempting to spam.
18:38:15 <fizzie> (Same thing there.)
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18:45:58 <shachaf> I'm guessing you removed your impossible captcha.
18:46:04 <shachaf> I guess it's not really a captcha at that point.
18:46:28 <shachaf> catcamra
18:48:27 <fizzie> Yes, I flipped it back to the Befungey one.
18:48:37 <izabera> https://www.reddit.com/live/xatezzbcvxxy terror attack in munich?
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18:49:10 <fizzie> izabera: According to Guardian, it's a "rampage".
18:51:05 <izabera> and rampage < terror attack ?
18:51:16 <fizzie> Well, that's not clarified.
18:51:30 <fizzie> I think they're just two overlapping sets.
18:51:51 <fizzie> Some but not all terror attacks are rampages; some but not all rampages are terror attacks.
18:52:21 <fizzie> But I guess from a Bayesian point of view, it being a rampage might cause you to update your belief on whether it's likely to be a terror attack.
18:55:24 <fizzie> That Onion article seems to be turning out quite accurate.
18:55:27 <fizzie> http://www.theonion.com/article/humanity-hoping-it-only-has-put-few-more-millennia-53223
19:00:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainhype]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48973&oldid=38064 * Conor O'Brien * (-2) This thing _is_ implemented -.-
19:01:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Branch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48974&oldid=25242 * Conor O'Brien * (-2) Language is implemented, see link.
19:09:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48975&oldid=48965 * Darkrifts * (+501) /* Documentation */
19:09:59 <Zekka> Hm, I'm not sure Conor O'Brien's comment on Brainhype is correct
19:10:40 <Zekka> I guess it depends onw hether you count "implemented on a language that cannot be implemented on a turing machine" as implemented
19:11:47 <Zekka> The "External resources" entry for Branch explicitly says there is no implementation
19:19:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48977&oldid=48975 * Darkrifts * (+542)
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19:30:52 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:30:59 <HackEgo> cyberiad//The Cyberiad is not just a book. It's an M&S book.
19:31:27 <shachaf> `cwlprits cyberiad
19:31:34 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 oerjan elliott Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 shachaf
19:31:52 <shachaf> `howg cyberiad
19:31:59 <HackEgo> ​<int-e> revert accbc9c5c7ec \ <ais523> echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ <oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <Phantom_Hoover> echo "The Cyberiad is not just a book. It\'s an M&S book." >> wisdom/cyberiad \ <Phantom_Hoover> rm wisdom/cyberiad \ <Phantom_Hoover> echo " It\'s an M&S book." >> wisdom/cyberiad \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeF
19:32:31 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: What is an M&S book?
19:32:46 <Phantom_Hoover> i'm pretty sure i explained this to you a couple of weeks ago shachaf
19:33:00 <shachaf> I must've forgotten.
19:33:07 <shachaf> Marks and Spencer?
19:33:14 <Phantom_Hoover> it was a very widely mocked advertising campaign for a british supermarket
19:33:57 <shachaf> I don't recall ever having heard of it.
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19:37:46 <shachaf> `? hmph
19:37:48 <HackEgo> His Master's Phonetic Hmph
19:37:50 <shachaf> `cwlprits hmph
19:37:56 <HackEgo> oerjan
19:38:06 <shachaf> Is that one also named after Lem?
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22:41:04 <int-e> yay, finished the last regular snakebird level... only cloud ones left
22:42:40 <shachaf> snackbird
22:45:44 <fizzie> Wild Honey Tree Pidgey Wings, said the cafeteria menu somewhere, apparently.
22:46:11 <shachaf> fizzie: ?
22:46:25 <fizzie> I don't know, just the snackbird comment.
22:47:08 <shachaf> I figured that much.
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23:02:03 <boily> `wisdom
23:02:14 <HackEgo> atrix//Atrix is a brand of hand cream. Not to be confused with atriq.
23:08:33 <int-e> `culprits wisdom/atrix
23:09:00 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 oerjan oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 oerjan
23:09:17 <int-e> oh, that old?
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23:12:09 <quintopia> int-e: how should i prioritize playing snakebird vs playing other games
23:13:02 <quintopia> today is day i've ever seen two people come to starbucks expressly for the purpose of playing MtG
23:13:09 <int-e> by fun?
23:13:40 <quintopia> int-e: yes. if my goal is to maximize fun, what is the optimal ordering? sooner or later?
23:14:11 <int-e> I don't know how to answer your question seriously.
23:14:15 <int-e> So obviously sooner.
23:14:46 <int-e> it's an easy game to stop playing if you don't enjoy it :P
23:15:39 <int-e> and I'm so happy it isn't keeping track of number of moves... that would be a massive time sink
23:16:06 <int-e> (judging by how much time of my life I've spent minimizing number of moves in various Sokoban levels)
23:17:45 <quintopia> lel
23:17:56 <int-e> `? lel
23:18:08 <quintopia> i can't wait until stephen's sausage roll goes on sale.
23:18:14 <HackEgo> lel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:18:21 <quintopia> everyone agrees it is the greatest
23:19:06 <int-e> oh, "A retarded version of 'lol'", fair enough :P
23:19:45 <quintopia> int-e: have you played pretentious game
23:20:21 <quintopia> installing snakebird now
23:22:36 <quintopia> black girls playing MtG is hilarious to listen to
23:23:08 <quintopia> "whatmI gonna do? I got all dis dumbass lands n' shit. Shut up."
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23:27:22 <int-e> hmm, that was pretty short
23:27:36 <quintopia> what
23:27:43 <int-e> pretentious game
23:27:51 <quintopia> uh, no?
23:27:59 <int-e> well maybe there are several :P
23:28:07 <quintopia> it takes at least an hour
23:28:19 <quintopia> there are five or six puzzle sequences in it
23:28:55 <quintopia> i'm referring to this one: http://store.steampowered.com/app/279540/
23:29:54 <quintopia> it looks like they took all the free ones they published online, cleaned them up, and packaged them together
23:33:05 <int-e> Anyway, feels a bit like Thomas was Alone
23:33:38 <quintopia> yes, except it adds new mechanics more often
23:33:45 <quintopia> but i agree, generally speaking
23:34:54 <int-e> probably not going to spend 5 euros on it
23:35:17 <int-e> (given the number of unplayed games that I already have)
23:35:24 <quintopia> you can probably play it all free (as "pretentious game 2, pretentious game 3, ..."
23:35:39 <quintopia> but i got it for 99 cents i think
23:36:47 <int-e> that's a lot of negative reviews, too...
23:37:27 <quintopia> huh
23:37:36 <quintopia> those people probably paid full price
23:38:03 <quintopia> what's the best software from making diagrams?
23:38:47 <int-e> ...what kind of diagrams...
23:39:53 <quintopia> all kinds! is there a program that makes illustrating a vaguely mathematical concept as easy as drawing with a pencil?
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23:51:41 <fizzie> Probably not. But I've done most of my diagramming with draw.io, except those things that have gone into LaTeX documents, which I've done with TikZ.
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23:54:39 <quintopia> fizzie: thx
23:56:47 <int-e> oh god. http://fraghero.com/heres-how-this-iphone-case-makes-catching-pokemon-a-lot-easier/
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00:02:07 <fizzie> I have a notion the "registering my straight throws as curve balls from time to time" issue is some sort of a bug with the touchy input stuff having some touches get stuck, or some-such.
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00:04:23 * boily pokes oerjan to check for immortality
00:04:44 <shachaf> are you in the mood to look at some kittens
00:05:01 <boily> kittens are always nice.
00:05:15 <oerjan> BORAILYNS
00:05:32 <boily> borailyns????????
00:06:37 * oerjan shambles in boily's general direction
00:06:52 <boily> oh. _that_ kind of immortality.
00:07:01 <oerjan> what other is there, duh
00:08:09 <oerjan> hm spammers trying again?
00:08:23 <oerjan> and clearly testing posting as well as captcha
00:16:34 <oerjan> <shachaf> Is that one also named after Lem? <-- no hth
00:16:48 <shachaf> oerjan: then what twh
00:16:50 * oerjan hasn't read _that_ much Lem, anyway.
00:16:58 <oerjan> shachaf: hmph, can't you guess.
00:17:09 <shachaf> Not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Master%27s_Voice_(novel) ?
00:17:23 <oerjan> oh.
00:18:02 <shachaf> Oh, maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipper
00:18:19 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Master%27s_Voice
00:18:32 <oerjan> well the "His Master's Voice" part would be after the famous pooch picture (which is also a record label?)
00:18:49 <shachaf> I guess so.
00:18:52 <shachaf> I never heard of it before.
00:19:17 <oerjan> i suppose you're too young to know about vinyl records hth
00:19:19 <shachaf> When I looked it up I thought the Lem book was first.
00:19:25 <boily> shachaf proposing kittens, oerjan talking of pooches, and there is a plastic guide for throwing pokeballs. there's something wrong going on...
00:19:39 <oerjan> shachaf: i wouldn't know.
00:19:57 <oerjan> boily: i'm just so impressible hth
00:20:43 <oerjan> it's a scow character trait, i know.
00:22:13 <oerjan> oh Nipper was his name
00:23:01 <oerjan> boily: is there a guide for whether pokeballs should be disposed as plastic twh
00:23:41 <boily> the Nippooch.
00:23:57 <boily> are pokemons edible?
00:24:07 <shachaf> boily: here are some nippooches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUB1uYLv3M
00:24:52 <boily> fluff! <3
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00:43:59 <quintopia> uh?
00:46:54 <hppavilion[1]> I really want to plug Trump into https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
00:47:14 <hppavilion[1]> But his opinions are so inconsistent that it just isn't feasible
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00:56:24 <boily> -6.25 / -8.62.
01:00:23 <quintopia> hi
01:00:32 <int-e> @metar lowi
01:00:32 <quintopia> translate?
01:00:32 <lambdabot> LOWI 222350Z AUTO 06003KT 330V110 9999 FEW016 SCT017 BKN110 18/16 Q1018
01:00:36 <boily> quinthellopia!
01:00:51 <quintopia> helpoily
01:01:09 <boily> I took the test, and I scored -6.25/10 on the left right axis, and -8.62/10 on the authoritarian libertarian axis.
01:01:24 <boily> int-e: 18/16? bletch!
01:01:53 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
01:01:53 <lambdabot> EGLL 222350Z AUTO 22004KT 9999 NCD 19/15 Q1020 NOSIG
01:02:05 <fizzie> Still 26.2 inside.
01:02:14 <oerjan> fizzie: fungone for a while
01:02:18 <fizzie> Oh.
01:02:24 <Sgeo> Why does the Pokemon TCG software emulate a physical table? A flat surface would be much more readable
01:02:33 <quintopia> boily: i take it that makes you liberauthoritarian?
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01:02:51 <fizzie> oerjan: fungotted.
01:02:52 <fungot> fizzie: using some implied fnord for now :d or for anything
01:02:54 <Sgeo> Apparently I have a pokemon.com account. I'm guessing I tried the Pokemon TCG online briefly befoe
01:03:30 <shachaf> fizzie: who gets paged when fungot dies
01:03:30 <fungot> shachaf: what about 0 0(1) gives output and results 0 0 x x x x x
01:03:38 <shachaf> fungot: no u
01:03:38 <fungot> shachaf: i'm hatching norns to be slaughtered by an fnord to it, and i have a phrase with 2 quasiquotes in it, so
01:03:42 <shachaf> ^style
01:03:42 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
01:04:04 <fizzie> shachaf: The job doesn't even die, it just gets stuck forever somehow.
01:04:21 <boily> quintopia: more libertocialist hth.
01:04:27 <shachaf> fizzie: what was that thing sres said
01:04:37 <shachaf> fizzie: monitor symptoms or something like that
01:04:51 <boily> fungot: o hai?
01:04:52 <fungot> boily: oops didn't mean to say is that it's " finished and working" ( in some unspecified order), each variable is assigned, so it's totally useless
01:04:56 <shachaf> you need fungmon
01:05:02 <quintopia> boily: isn't socialism basically the definition of liberal authoritarianism?
01:05:37 <boily> oops. I didn't parse the portmanteau correctly.
01:05:38 <fizzie> shachaf: I need /healthz on it.
01:05:57 <shachaf> yes
01:06:00 <shachaf> everything needs that
01:06:07 <boily> /healthz?
01:06:18 <fizzie> boily: Googlestuff.
01:06:23 <shachaf> fizzie: can you believe that there are programs in the world that don't always run an http and/or rpc server
01:06:43 <fizzie> shachaf: Somehow I can.
01:06:51 <fizzie> shachaf: I think a number of Android client apps don't.
01:07:24 <Sgeo> <lambdabot> FireFly said 11h 13m 29s ago: <Sgeo> FireFly, is the number of cards limitation based on name or card itself? ← oh, good point. it's based on the name, so that is another case where it matters
01:07:31 <shachaf> fizzie: Well, server programs.
01:07:37 <shachaf> Or command-line programs.
01:07:39 <shachaf> I don't know.
01:09:35 <fizzie> Maybe I should be running fungot with Kubernetes.
01:09:36 <fungot> fizzie: a compsci grad student by chance? would make it fail in a spectacular way, but mycology specifies it well enough. the information is ambient and always there ( just seeing it reminds me of a line ( to include in order to
01:09:44 <shachaf> Probably.
01:09:49 <olsner> fungot: do you like kubernetes?
01:09:49 <fungot> olsner: apart from gaining some efficiency, as opposed to fnord
01:15:14 <hppavilion[1]> Googling "is there any good option in this election" gives Wikipedia/None of the Above
01:15:38 <shachaf> fungot 2016
01:15:38 <fungot> shachaf: emacs lisp, or smalltalk, or ruby before c any day.
01:17:34 <Sgeo> Oh I totally misunderstood prize cards I think
01:17:44 <Sgeo> When I knock out enemy pokemon, I take my own I think
01:18:10 <zzo38> Yes
01:25:23 <Sgeo> Playing the tutorial, was told to evolve a Pokemon. Despite the basic having an energy 2 attack and the new one only having a 1 and 3, I think the new one is monotonically better, because the new one's one energy attack is the same as the old one's two energy attack. Are evolutions always better or are there tradeoffs?
01:25:46 <zzo38> Sometimes whether or not it is better depend on the situation.
01:27:07 <shachaf> zzo38: Do you prefer Pokemon cards or Magic: The Gathering cards?
01:27:18 <zzo38> I can play both games
01:27:40 <shachaf> But which one is better?
01:28:02 <zzo38> Both are better. Although, I play the old Pokemon card game and not the new one anyways
01:28:36 <zzo38> There are situation in Pokemon card where you might play an evolution card solely to increase its retreat cost, in order that a recycle energy attached to it can be retrieved in order to power an attack of another card that does not do any damage. (I have done this.)
01:30:58 <quintopia> i just looked a quora question which gives a trivially easy math problem as a "very challenging problem that takes a long time". i'm worried that the "tutor" who posted it doesn't deserve the job...
01:35:20 <hppavilion[1]> I think I found the only good vote for 2016
01:35:24 <hppavilion[1]> "No Confidence"
01:37:31 <zzo38> You have to injure the candidates badly enough that they will not recover in time for the election.
01:51:07 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: We need to go back in time and stop Hitl- Hillary
01:53:08 <oerjan> bah just missed seeing a cut again
01:55:47 <oerjan> at most one more cut on the rightmost branch before the dire subbranch gets pruned more
01:56:11 <oerjan> (152k cuts so far)
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02:06:15 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ...wat?
02:09:05 <oerjan> have you not been following the hydra news
02:11:58 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: i'm trying to let http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml follow its cause with the automatic play setting.
02:12:07 <oerjan> *its course
02:13:32 <oerjan> i seem to have got a better setup than int-e did (he gave up at ~ 1.5M cuts despite having increased the speed), but worse than quintopia.
02:14:29 <oerjan> that is, after ~150k cuts i've still not reached the state quintopia said he was at last we discussed that
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02:16:47 <oerjan> my estimate that i'd get to that point in less than 100k cuts seems to be overoptimistic, but hopefully not wildly so.
02:17:11 <oerjan> (100k + the ~ 70k i had when making it.)
02:18:41 <oerjan> (hm, is it possible that the difficulty depends on something that differs between browsers / window size?
02:18:44 <oerjan> )
02:20:10 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ...is this one of those unwinnable games?
02:20:54 <oerjan> no, it's actually guaranteed win, it just takes a long time when using the extremely naive automatic algorithm
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02:21:32 <oerjan> there's a theorem saying the hydra will die no matter how you chop
02:22:36 <oerjan> you can do much faster with a manual strategy. i read ybden had managed in < 200 cuts earlier.
02:23:19 <oerjan> our theory is that the automatic strategy (always take leftmost head) is close to the worst possible.
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02:29:06 <shachaf> \oren\: you've been pretty hanabi lately
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02:44:18 <hppavilion[1]> Yay! I defeated the Hydra by hand!
02:44:42 <hppavilion[1]> 1745 heads
02:45:09 <shachaf> That sounds more like a Lowdra.
02:45:40 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: that's ok for a first attempt ;)
02:46:26 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I gave it Molly, so it's definitely a Hydra
02:46:41 <oerjan> although it depends a lot on luck especially in the beginning, i think.
02:46:44 <shachaf> I know a pooch named Molly.
02:47:59 * oerjan wonders what Molly has to do with Hydras
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02:49:43 <oerjan> the first hit seems aquarium-related, although you'd give hydra to molly, not the other way around.
02:50:33 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, just noticed it's on madore.org
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02:51:22 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: If you're genuinely confused, Molly is the street name for MDMA
02:51:28 <oerjan> OKAY
02:51:43 <hppavilion[1]> (Hydra with a digraph...)
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02:51:59 <shachaf> hppavilion[1]: OK, but where's the joke?
02:52:12 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Molly gets you high
02:52:21 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I was just countering your joke
02:52:44 <shachaf> I don't get it, though.
02:53:01 * oerjan swats both hppavilion[1] and shachaf, just in case -----###
02:53:46 <hppavilion[1]> Oooh, hyperbolic maze
02:55:31 * shachaf swats oerjan -#
02:56:02 <oerjan> it's the most fantastic maze in the universe. no, _all_ the universes!
02:56:43 <shachaf> `wisdom
02:57:14 <oerjan> `wisdom hyperbol
02:57:28 * oerjan taps his hand
02:58:39 <oerjan> hm we put +n on the channel again, so that weirdness with HackEgo should not be happening.
02:58:47 <HackEgo> hyperbolic group//Hyperbolic groups are the best groups there are, they're totally awesome and cure cancer.
02:58:47 <HackEgo> hallucination//You are just imagining this wisdom entry.
02:59:08 <oerjan> looks like someone had that idea before.
02:59:22 <oerjan> `howg hyperbolic group
02:59:23 <shachaf> `cwlprits hyperbolic group
02:59:38 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> le/rn hyperbolic group/Hyperbolic groups are the best groups there are, they\'re totally awesome and cure cancer. \ <oerjan> le/rn hyperbolic group/Hyperbolic groups are the best group there are, they\'re totally awesome and cure cancer.
02:59:43 <HackEgo> oerjan oerjan
02:59:52 <oerjan> yep.
03:02:08 <oerjan> `? ellipsis
03:02:10 <HackEgo> ellipsis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
03:02:12 <oerjan> `? parabola
03:02:15 <HackEgo> parabola? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
03:02:28 <oerjan> `wisdom parab
03:02:29 <HackEgo> cat: : No such file or directory \ //
03:02:36 <oerjan> `wisdom ellip
03:02:37 <HackEgo> cat: : No such file or directory \ //
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04:14:08 <hppavilion[1]> `whatiflist
04:14:38 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whatiflist: not found
04:14:54 <oerjan> `` ls bin/*whatif*
04:15:08 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin/*whatif*: No such file or directory
04:27:18 <hppavilion[1]> I'd love to see a 13-episode scripted series in which everybody on earth is teleported to the same place on earth- an area the size of Rhode Island (and, coincidentally, also actually Rhode Island), all jump at noon, and then the world grinds to a halt because everyone's in Rhode Island and the rest of the world has nobody operating things
04:30:42 <oerjan> oh the righmost dire branch is now siblingless
04:30:56 <oerjan> at 162k
04:31:12 <oerjan> there's got to be some progress now
04:31:23 <pikhq> hppavilion[1]: I think there would be more pressing problems before much technology fails.
04:31:35 <pikhq> Namely, a lack of potable drinking water.
04:31:54 <shachaf> pikhq: is that really the time to think about drugs hth
04:31:54 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Yes, that would be part of it
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04:32:46 <pikhq> Also, there would inevitably be multiple massive stampedes.
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04:33:35 <pikhq> Be a good time to be a vulture in Rhode Island though.
04:36:53 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: The show would be mostly about a small band of people who escape The Grand Shitstorm
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04:38:34 <Sgeo> Saw something claiming PTCGO can't be made fullscreen. They're wrong
04:41:51 <oerjan> clooog!
04:43:55 <shachaf> tunes is down? scow
04:44:17 <shachaf> oerjan has been stripped of his powers
04:44:23 <shachaf> he's like the rest of us mortals now
04:45:11 <pikhq> Actually, wait. That much people together is probably bad purely from a thermal point of view.
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05:05:17 <Sgeo> WHY is the AI sparing me?
05:05:25 <Sgeo> I lost a long time ago but it won't finish me off
05:10:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48978&oldid=48977 * Darkrifts * (+1337)
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05:22:30 <Sgeo> That took 30 minutes and I eventually just gave up
05:22:37 <Sgeo> Are Pokemon matches supposed to last that long?
05:25:23 <pikhq> Sgeo: No.
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05:25:47 <pikhq> Oh, wait. TCG. I dunno.
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06:09:21 <hppavilion[2]> What is the US law distinguishing prostitution from porn production? Because I really don't see a clear distinction, and they're already similar enough that I don't see how they justify classifying prostitution as a crime
06:12:14 <Zekka> I would guess it varies by state
06:13:12 <Zekka> Google suggests I'm right, but take that with a grain of salt (I'm not a lawyer)
06:13:48 <Zekka> IIRC the standard for "is this porn?" is federal, but I don't know if there are standards for particular kinds of porn on the state level
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06:31:41 <pikhq> There's also no federal law on prostitution, at all.
06:32:11 <pikhq> And there is in fact one state where prostitution is legal.
06:32:25 <Zekka> Yeah, google turned it up, but I forgot which
06:32:34 <pikhq> Nevada.
06:33:22 <izabera> classic nevada
06:33:33 <pikhq> But, it's illegal in Las Vegas.
06:34:03 <izabera> bummer
06:35:03 <pikhq> Fortunately, The Strip is not in Las Vegas.
06:36:08 <fizzie> "-- located immediately south of the Las Vegas city limits in the unincorporated towns of Paradise and Winchester." Well, that's a name.
06:37:08 <shachaf> What, like Newcastle upon Tyne?
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06:39:03 <pikhq> No, Paradise and Winchester are two different unincorporated towns.
06:40:35 <fizzie> Frankfurt an der Oder, the cheap knock-off of Frankfurt am Main.
06:46:15 <shachaf> @metar KSJC
06:46:15 <lambdabot> KSJC 230453Z 29007KT 10SM CLR 19/12 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP170 T01940117
06:46:19 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
06:46:19 <lambdabot> KOAK 230453Z 28006KT 10SM CLR 17/13 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP173 T01720128
06:46:40 <shachaf> Maybe this channel has some convolution experts.
06:46:46 <shachaf> 22:43 <shachaf> Is there a sort of convolution which is something like (f*g)(a) = \Sum_{x,y | x+y <= a} {f(x)g(y)} ?
06:46:49 <shachaf> 22:43 <shachaf> (Where normal convolution would use = instead of <=.)
06:46:51 <shachaf> 22:44 <shachaf> (To match Day convolution.)
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07:08:01 <hppavilion[1]> I think I might have found a single scenario in which patent law can be a good thing
07:08:08 <hppavilion[1]> But it's really obscure and unlikely
07:10:32 <Sgeo> Is Magikarp always supposed to be bad?
07:11:01 <Sgeo> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magikarp_(Ancient_Origins_19) a 1/4 chance of landing a 30 attack?
07:11:09 <Sgeo> I think that's bad, I'm not certain
07:14:36 <zzo38> hppavilion[1]: What kind of scenario is that?
07:15:27 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: You invent something genuinely novel and useful that people want, and you manufacture it somewhere that isn't horrifying (that is: in a factory that /doesn't/ need suicide nets)
07:15:37 <hppavilion[1]> You patent it, and people buy it
07:16:15 <hppavilion[1]> If it wasn't patented, Apple would likely start making them too, and it would be cheaper (so people buy it) because it's manufactured by technically-not-slaves
07:16:29 <zzo38> I think still it would be no good though
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07:25:56 <pikhq> Sgeo: Yes, Magikarp is supposed to be bad.
07:26:42 <pikhq> Magikarp in the JRPG learns 3 moves (2 in the first one!): Splash, Tackle, and Flail.
07:26:51 <pikhq> Splash does nothing.
07:27:07 <pikhq> Tackle has 50 power (i.e. it's a fairly weak move)
07:27:41 <pikhq> Flail, the only move that makes Magikarp have any use itself, gets stronger the less HP it has.
07:27:50 <Sgeo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtyZMDQCA_Y
07:28:28 <Sgeo> (I don't remember offhand if this is NSFW)
07:28:34 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: Yes?
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07:30:21 <hppavilion[1]> Sgeo: Why don't they tackle? Ever?
07:30:44 <hppavilion[1]> (Or is tackle not available in this particular iteration?)
07:31:54 <Sgeo> Ooh I forgot Ditto existed, I wonder wha it's like in TCG
07:32:14 <Sgeo> I was trying to think of the duplicatey pokemon, and kept thinking of Jiggypuff for some reason
07:32:20 <Sgeo> Maybe because of some brawl game?
07:32:57 <pikhq> You were thinking of Kirby, apparently.
07:34:01 <hppavilion[1]> Sgeo: It appears it IS NSFW
07:34:03 <Sgeo> ...Jiggypuff is at least in that same brawl game, right?
07:34:05 <hppavilion[1]> Depending on your definition
07:34:35 <hppavilion[1]> My favorite pokemon is Kirby
07:34:42 <pikhq> Yes, Jigglypuff is in Smash Bros as well.
07:34:44 <hppavilion[1]> Wait, pikhq already mentioned Kirby, so my joke doesn't work
07:35:17 <pikhq> Jigglypuff, IIRC, is in *all* of the Smash games too.
07:36:07 * Sgeo suddenly wants Missingno. in the TCG
07:36:17 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, yes. I love Missingno
07:36:25 <hppavilion[1]> `? Foundno
07:36:51 <Sgeo> There existed a TCG called MissingNO
07:37:29 <hppavilion[1]> OK, what's TCG again?
07:38:08 <HackEgo> Foundno? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
07:38:20 <Sgeo> trading card game
07:41:29 <Sgeo> Maybe pokemon are actually interesting to read about
07:41:34 <Sgeo> Well, some of them
07:41:36 <hppavilion[1]> I find it hilarious when Christians talk about Jews negatively
07:41:48 * Sgeo wonders if the movies are any good
07:41:55 <Sgeo> I think I read a pokemon book once as a kid
07:42:24 <hppavilion[1]> When- going solely by the holy book- Jews are just Christians Lite (alt: Christians who haven't yet purchased the DLCquel)
07:44:05 <alercah> hppavilion[1]: No
07:44:17 <alercah> They reject Jesus
07:44:28 <hppavilion[1]> alercah: ...?
07:44:28 <alercah> which, seeing as that's basically the foundation of Christianity
07:44:34 <alercah> is why they don't like them
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07:59:30 * Sgeo might look for a "rational" pokemon story
07:59:42 <Sgeo> (Using "rational" as the genre here)
08:00:19 <Sgeo> First need to read chapter of Mother of Learning
08:01:14 <hppavilion[1]> Trump SAYS he wants to make America great again
08:01:22 <hppavilion[1]> But he doesn't put his money where his mouth is
08:01:33 <hppavilion[1]> 45 million Americans are below the poverty line
08:01:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48979 * TuxCrafting * (+1763) Created page with "== Description == Gaot++ is a stack-based programming language with 2 types of commands: <code>baa</code>s and <code>bleet</code>s. Gaot++ have a instruction pointer going t..."
08:02:24 <hppavilion[1]> If trump donated all of his money (measured by net worth, which is probably about how much he has on hand because that's obviously how economics works) to Americans to help them with life, that would be enough...
08:02:42 <hppavilion[1]> To give every povertous American...
08:02:43 <hppavilion[1]> $100
08:02:46 <hppavilion[1]> So
08:02:54 <hppavilion[1]> Not actually very significant
08:03:13 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, better than nothing, and good for the REALLY poverty-y people
08:03:18 <hppavilion[1]> But not really as great as we thought
08:03:37 <hppavilion[1]> (see: https://xkcd.com/947/)
08:10:59 <hppavilion[1]> Compound interest is one thing, but I'm more a fan of complex interest
08:11:26 <hppavilion[1]> For explanation of complex interest, talk to \oren\
08:13:04 <shachaf> That comic doesn't seem very related.
08:31:52 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48980&oldid=48979 * TuxCrafting * (+201)
08:36:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48981&oldid=48980 * TuxCrafting * (+64)
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08:58:48 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: It is in that it shows another instance of money being less powerful than we thought
08:59:00 <hppavilion[1]> Is it possible for there to be a complete, consistent system of morality?
09:05:03 <Sgeo> TV Tropes seems to interpret "Idiot Programming" and "Genius Programming" as inefficiency vs efficiency
09:08:43 <Taneb> Sgeo, from a non-programmer perspective, that's the most obvious interpretetion, I believe
09:12:03 <hppavilion[1]> Of course, that question reduces to "can a proper moral system exist in which 'a certain amount of elementary arithmetic' cannot be carried out"
09:12:55 <hppavilion[1]> (or, at least, that's a prerequisite; The inverse of Godel I isn't necessarily true AFAIK)
09:43:59 <Taneb> I think you can encode arithmetic in trolley problems
09:51:32 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: Is that a funny bizarre statement or a completely serious bizarre statement?
10:14:40 <shachaf> In the US that would be spelled "trolly problems".
10:24:25 <Taneb> hppavilion[1], yes
10:24:41 <hppavilion[1]> Taneb: ...no really
10:24:49 <Taneb> ...yes
10:25:20 <Taneb> Of course, "do nothing, ever" could be argued to be a complete, consistent system of morality
10:34:18 <shachaf> Is that a tanebvention?
10:36:25 <Taneb> I don't think so
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14:14:46 <boily> fungot: nostril.
14:14:46 <fungot> boily: it's interesting, yes. fame. mm. diet food.
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14:33:22 <int-e> fungot: ewww!
14:33:22 <fungot> int-e: ( i killed it? :) where would you simplify it?
14:42:28 <boily> fungot looks perfectly healthy to me. maybe the secret to his health comes from nasal food?
14:42:29 <fungot> boily: fortunatelly he's not communist :) it helped me concentrate on getting your code working on all the esolang interps it uses
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14:54:11 <int-e> fungot: please tell us more about your fascinating political agenda
14:54:11 <fungot> int-e: about half-way through
14:54:20 <int-e> fungot: come on!
14:54:20 <fungot> int-e: there is a completely non-standard extension that a few days, i'm completely useless.
15:01:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48982&oldid=44373 * Orlando * (+111)
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15:02:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48984&oldid=48983 * Orlando * (+1)
15:02:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48985&oldid=48984 * Orlando * (+1)
15:02:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48986&oldid=48985 * Orlando * (+0)
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15:51:32 <oerjan> oh right
15:51:44 * oerjan considered idling, but eventually didn't.
15:53:34 <boily> zellørjambie!
15:56:02 * gamemanj considers idling, but ironically ruins it by stating this.
15:56:13 <oerjan> CEREBROILY
15:56:27 <oerjan> gamemanj: i mean because clog was gone.
15:57:33 <int-e> @metar lowi
15:57:34 <lambdabot> LOWI 231450Z 28007KT 210V350 9999 FEW040 SCT080 BKN120 24/16 Q1017 NOSIG
15:57:44 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
15:57:45 <lambdabot> ENVA 231450Z 27011KT 9999 SCT020 BKN030 18/15 Q1020 RMK WIND 670FT 27010KT
16:14:29 <quintopia> @metar KATL
16:14:29 <lambdabot> KATL 231452Z 21005KT 10SM FEW030 BKN200 BKN250 30/23 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP169 T03000233 51006
16:15:32 <quintopia> so not that hot then
16:15:36 <quintopia> guess i'll go outside
16:17:39 <int-e> gamemanj: I think idling is a myth.
16:18:33 <gamemanj> no-one would have believed, in the first months of 2016, that human affairs were being watched, from the timeless voids of IRC idlers...
16:19:06 <oerjan> fungot: you believe, right?
16:19:06 <fungot> oerjan: so there will be stuff i don't grok
16:19:15 <oerjan> fungot: well, possibly.
16:19:15 <fungot> oerjan: and true brilliance. eta reduction is ( lambda ( x) ( x
16:19:29 <oerjan> fungot: that's a given.
16:19:30 <fungot> oerjan: my dairy heater broke. i had another method when doing it from scratch, but not kilimanjaro's reason, or the universe implodes"
16:20:02 <oerjan> the hydra is approaching a major cut, i can feel it...
16:20:36 <quintopia> gamemanj: what about here in the last months of 2016
16:20:45 <int-e> oerjan: this is worse than watching a heated kettle of milk...
16:20:46 <oerjan> it just has to blow up a little more first.
16:20:50 <int-e> ...the milk *will* boil!
16:20:52 <oerjan> int-e: :P
16:21:06 <gamemanj> quintopia: well, the idler invasion already happened, didn't it
16:21:20 <quintopia> gamemanj: THEN WHAT HAPPENED
16:21:39 <gamemanj> they all died because of bacteria on their keyboards
16:21:46 <oerjan> i wish madore hadn't placed the stop/start buttons so far from the canvas.
16:21:46 <int-e> oerjan: Please don't make me implement the hydra in Haskell or C++ just to prove that it can go into billions.
16:21:59 <int-e> ('merican billions)
16:22:02 <quintopia> oerjan: are you still watching the same dang auto-run of hydra from days ago?
16:22:08 <oerjan> int-e: oh i'm sure it can. but mine won't.
16:22:12 <oerjan> quintopia: yes.
16:22:38 <gamemanj> quintopia: I'm surprised you didn't remember it
16:22:44 <quintopia> oerjan: how close is it?
16:22:44 <int-e> oerjan: I'm sure it won't... there's only so many three quarter seconds in a year.
16:23:09 <quintopia> int-e: is there no way we can hack that script to speed it up?
16:24:00 <int-e> quintopia: there is, but I'm not sure how to do it on a loaded web page.
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16:24:12 <oerjan> int-e already did that. just because i'm insane enough to run it at normal speed...
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16:24:36 <int-e> quintopia: I mean, I did hack it. I made a better strategy too but oerjan doesn't want to hear about it.
16:26:22 <oerjan> gah the second last branch blew up a bit too
16:26:44 <oerjan> i'm sure i'll test out strategies... later.
16:27:42 <quintopia> int-e: i'm downloading it and editing the 750 on the callback to...say...50
16:29:33 <quintopia> OH ITS SO MUCH FASTER
16:30:21 <quintopia> just hit 1000
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16:31:07 <quintopia> just hit 2000
16:31:10 <oerjan> that's what int-e did when running that one he still gave up after 1.5 million cuts.
16:31:15 <gamemanj> quantum hydrae theory: for any situation involving a hydrae following sensible rules, there is a solution to be found through the correct set of branches.
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16:31:24 <gamemanj> (* may not actually be quantum.)
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16:31:55 <quintopia> 3000
16:32:01 <oerjan> it's so close now that i have to keep an eye on it.
16:32:33 <oerjan> quintopia: didn't you already run one that was pretty fast?
16:32:50 <oerjan> i'm still trying to get to those 3 normals you said you had.
16:33:20 <quintopia> oerjan: eh my computer crashed before it finished ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:33:26 <oerjan> bah
16:33:45 <oerjan> i'm explicitly avoiding visiting reddit to try and decrease the chance my browser does that
16:35:30 <int-e> quintopia: I used 5 instead of 750 for http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra.png (hmm, I didn't save a screenshot 1 million steps later)
16:35:41 <gamemanj> maybe it needs a "save" button
16:35:46 <int-e> I have to admit that oerjan's hydra looks less healthy than that.
16:36:20 <int-e> quintopia: the operative word was "on a loaded web page" though
16:36:22 <quintopia> oerjan: how many heads are you at
16:36:35 <oerjan> 178k
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16:37:04 <int-e> perhaps one could use the javascript console to manually start the periodic timer
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16:37:42 <int-e> also oerjan is using IE which I'm totally clueless about
16:38:05 <quintopia> int-e: inspect element etc. lets you edit pages right in the browser. it's just easier to download. (what's the difference between a web loaded from a local file and a web page loaded from a remote server, when there are no remote embeds in the page?)
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16:41:14 <oerjan> inspect element is neat for those annoying web pages with huge bars
16:44:01 <quintopia> oerjan: okay i'm doing it again: http://imgur.com/q763tic
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16:44:19 <oerjan> i'm not visiting any other web pages right now, thanks :P
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16:44:48 <oerjan> of course "might happen any moment" and "will actually happen in a moment" are not quite the same here.
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16:46:44 <quintopia> oerjan: i'm at 39718 heads and the rightmost subtree is one dire on level 2 and one normal on level 3
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16:47:01 <oerjan> dang
16:47:29 <oerjan> i'll have to reiterate my wonder whether the size limits vary by browser/screen
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16:48:10 <oerjan> otoh the initial depth probably matters a lot.
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16:50:07 <quintopia> oerjan: yes true. i'm now at 70189 chops and the rightmost does not extend to level 3
16:50:54 <oerjan> whee
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16:52:24 <quintopia> i'm now down to my last possible dire neck (because it connects to the rightmost head, there is no way to create new dire necks when it gets expanded)
16:55:31 <quintopia> hydra killed at 118091 chops
16:55:40 <oerjan> congrats!
16:56:00 <quintopia> (Bachmann-Howard ordinal is the name of my Bachman Turner Overdrive cover band)
16:56:07 <oerjan> OKAY
16:57:09 <quintopia> time for strategies?
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17:01:49 <quintopia> hmm. how does one find the topmost head in this representation? Oh, there is a countDepth function, so you can just recurse on the child with the highest depth...
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17:12:14 <quintopia> oerjan: i changed the autoplay to always cut topmost head. it killed a pretty deep hydra in 493 chops. and a very very deep one in 868. this is before any optimizations like "dire necks first"
17:12:36 <quintopia> it basically chooses the leftmost of heads on the highest level
17:12:46 <oerjan> yeah that's been tried before
17:13:19 <quintopia> oerjan: do you think the other optimizations would improve it much?
17:13:26 <int-e> quintopia: it helps
17:13:30 <oerjan> i don't know?
17:13:36 <quintopia> int-e: what have you tried
17:13:45 <oerjan> i'm wondering what you'd achieve by using the theoretical ordinals
17:13:58 <quintopia> i don't even understand them
17:14:37 <oerjan> me neither
17:14:43 <quintopia> but i imagine they won't help much, since its the fine details of the magicProb function that really determine the best strategy here i think
17:14:47 <oerjan> (but i haven't looked at the theory)
17:14:55 <int-e> quintopia: I have a weighted path thing implemented (dire necks have weight two), but the most important effect is to prioritize dire necks on the deepest level
17:15:21 <quintopia> int-e: how does it do
17:15:29 <int-e> quintopia: I have not tried to improve on that further... the whole process is way too random and I lack the intuition.
17:15:43 <int-e> quintopia: try it for yourself: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra2.xhtml
17:15:54 <oerjan> int-e: deepest means highest?
17:16:02 <int-e> yes.
17:16:06 <int-e> I'm thinking of trees.
17:16:28 <int-e> in the ordinary CS fashion. Madore got that wrong ;-)
17:16:44 <oerjan> there it tries to blow up again
17:17:03 <quintopia> int-e: really good
17:17:28 <quintopia> int-e: he didn't get it wrong. the function is called "countDepth" after all
17:17:55 <int-e> I mean the display :P
17:18:37 <quintopia> int-e: oh true. every one knows that all /real/ trees have their roots at the top and the leaves dangling below
17:19:42 <quintopia> i asked for a proof of the hydra on quora and no answers
17:20:30 <oerjan> i don't think hydras are renowned for hanging upside down hth
17:20:35 <int-e> somebody linked to a writeup on Madore's website... by the title it sounded french though
17:20:52 <int-e> oerjan: they could be headcrabs.
17:20:54 <oerjan> probably b_jonas
17:21:33 <int-e> (now that would make halflife a much more interesting game... (disclaimer, I've never got very far in that game. I did encounter the headcrabs though))
17:22:51 <oerjan> every time i prepare to put my finger on the button it blows up again :P
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18:09:20 <oerjan> Milestone! https://imgur.com/a/hLtmM
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18:14:09 <oerjan> int-e: quintopia: ^
18:15:18 <int-e> poor thing
18:15:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48988&oldid=48987 * TuxCrafting * (+80)
18:15:55 <int-e> if it gets unlucky it'll die in a couple of dozen moves
18:16:40 <oerjan> nah. the dire segment blew up to 6 linked copies.
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18:16:48 <int-e> good.
18:17:08 <oerjan> and the rightmost path still has height 4. barely.
18:17:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48989&oldid=48988 * TuxCrafting * (+15)
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18:47:07 <fizzie> Today I saw the word "interactive" used as a noun, in a museum.
18:47:10 <fizzie> As in: "This interactive is temporarily out of order."
18:47:22 <fizzie> And they had labeled three different interactives that way.
18:48:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48991&oldid=48989 * Kc kennylau * (+243) /* Example programs */
18:48:48 <oerjan> more like inactive
18:49:56 <int-e> hmm interactive fiction
18:50:29 <fizzie> int-eractive.
18:50:29 <oerjan> . o O ( more like int-e-r-active )
18:50:32 <oerjan> darn
18:50:55 <oerjan> beat by my own thought bubble
18:52:28 <fizzie> In one of Neal Stephensons scifi books, "ractives" (VR theatre with audience participation, basically) have mostly replaced "passives" (movies etc.) as the popular-est form of entertainment.
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19:06:00 <Taneb> fizzie, I could concieve that happening in a few decades or so
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19:21:35 <ybden> quintopia: I ran autoplay on a hydra at a tiny interval, but after several hours and over 2.3 million chops, it was still going strong :/
19:22:00 <ybden> My computer was in dire need of a restart, so the hydra won.
19:23:03 <ybden> quintopia: Do you know of the smallest number of chops taken to kill a hydra?
19:25:27 <shachaf> You should've preserved the hydra across reboots.
19:26:01 <shachaf> Of course that's not easy with the JavaScript version. But with a formal representation using ordinals you would have more luck.
19:26:22 <shachaf> Formaldehydra is the best way to preserve it.
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19:32:09 <ybden> shachaf: What's the highest number of chops taken to kill a hydra thus far?
19:32:26 <shachaf> I don't know.
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19:32:31 <shachaf> Some Goodsteiny number?
19:32:50 <shachaf> Goodstein numbrs pale in comparison to TREE numbers, though.
19:32:54 <shachaf> TREE is TG
19:33:01 <int-e> ybden: I have a 1.5 Million on record for not killing a hydra yet.
19:33:09 <int-e> But lost the screenshot.
19:33:52 <int-e> anyway, goodstein is irrelevant because the hydra is very tame and reluctant to grow.
19:34:14 <shachaf> That's true.
19:34:18 <ybden> http://ybden.vehk.de/up/2016-07-23-191309_1920x1080_scrot.png over 2.3 million
19:34:23 <shachaf> The hydra has randomness, though. #scow
19:34:34 <ybden> It wasn't being very tame then
19:35:24 <shachaf> I think having to fit on the screen makes the hydra extremely tame.
19:35:29 <ybden> Autoplay didn't manage to touch the rightmost three tips in several hours, rarely touching the fourth
19:36:14 <int-e> wtf, uncompressed png...
19:36:27 <ybden> Huh, does scrot not compress them? Apologies
19:37:18 <ybden> There's no option to compress it even; I'll have to make it invoke some other program
19:37:18 <pikhq> Huh, I thought I was the only person to have intentionally made an uncompressed PNG writer.
19:39:35 <shachaf> Is it easier than uncompressed GIF writers?
19:39:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48994&oldid=48951 * Darkrifts * (+406) Added info on compilation
19:40:19 <int-e> shachaf: for gif you have to convert to 256 colors, so yes, much easier.
19:40:39 <shachaf> People wrote uncompressed GIF writers to get around patent issues, in theory.
19:40:53 <pikhq> Though a bit more annoying just because it's got multiple endiannesses.
19:40:55 <shachaf> int-e: GIF can handle more than 256 colors.
19:41:52 <int-e> shachaf: citation needed
19:43:20 <int-e> people put up with the lack of colors because they want animations
19:43:45 <gamemanj> GIF nowadays is only good because animations everywhere
19:43:55 <zzo38> PNG supports animation too (although I think Microsoft program doesn't implement PNG animations maybe?)
19:44:13 <shachaf> int-e: https://www.w3.org/Graphics/GIF/spec-gif89a.txt
19:44:20 <shachaf> int-e: Each Image Data Block has its own Local Color Table.
19:44:38 <int-e> The Animated Portable Network Graphics (APNG) file format is an *extension* to the Portable Network Graphics (PNG) specification.
19:44:57 <shachaf> int-e: And can be a rectangle of arbitrary size and shape within the image frame.
19:45:14 <shachaf> (This is all one frame of an animated GIF, though some implementations treat each rectangle as a separate frame.)
19:45:19 <shachaf> (Buggy ones, of course.)
19:45:44 <pikhq> And popular implementations, as well.
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19:46:40 <shachaf> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/SmallFullColourGIF.gif
19:47:48 <pikhq> Browsers insert 1 frame between each image data block. :(
19:48:42 <shachaf> They're only supposed to do it at GCE blocks, though.
19:48:51 <pikhq> There is a fairly clever workaround for that, at least. Make frame 1 a complete 256-color image, and then use the extra data blocks to add more color.
19:49:26 <shachaf> I thinkn sometimes you can work around it with clever disposal methods.
19:49:31 <shachaf> Though I bet those are buggy too.
19:50:03 <pikhq> https://tweakers.net/ext/f/L9kEhvvZMizHQ5SE4rDoyh9P/full.gif An example of working around it.
19:50:08 <shachaf> No one implements the flag that says to ait for user input before advancing to the next frame.
19:50:39 <gamemanj> "user input"?
19:51:01 <int-e> shachaf: thanks. that's an awful hack.
19:51:04 <shachaf> For example mouse click or carriage return.
19:51:19 <int-e> shachaf: probably not intended by the original designers
19:51:21 <gamemanj> What use is that without proper backup?
19:51:32 <gamemanj> Like, a disambiguator
19:51:40 <gamemanj> make it into a script kind of thing
19:53:05 <shachaf> GIF also has a standard extension for an ASCII art version of the picture.
19:53:10 <shachaf> In case your terminal doesn't support graphics.
19:53:36 <shachaf> I wonder whether you can make ASCII art basilisks.
19:53:41 <shachaf> @google basilisk faq
19:53:42 <lambdabot> http://ansible.uk/writing/c-b-faq.html
19:53:42 <lambdabot> Title: comp.basilisk FAQ
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19:57:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48996&oldid=48995 * Darkrifts * (+26) /* Compiling */
19:59:58 <shachaf> I guess that's a no.
20:08:46 <gamemanj> do you prefer your keyboards with or without friction?
20:09:56 <gamemanj> actually, I thought up a good use for the animated GIF "wait for input"...
20:10:13 <gamemanj> Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. But all the answers are wrong.
20:10:29 <gamemanj> so you just keep on failing as that's the only outcome you can reach...
20:10:56 <gamemanj> you know, would it have killed them to have a "skip if char != <this>" flag...?
20:11:18 <gamemanj> Otherwise it makes the user input kind of useless, and I see why browsers would ignore it
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21:32:09 <ambrus> hi, everyone
21:34:17 <quintopia> hi ambrus
21:34:31 <quintopia> have you been properly relcomed? i don't remember seeing you here before
21:34:38 <quintopia> eh, better too often than never
21:34:42 <quintopia> `relcome ambrus
21:34:44 <ambrus> oh, I'm just using the wrong nick
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21:34:48 <wob_jonas> damn
21:34:51 <wob_jonas> better now
21:34:57 <wob_jonas> sorry
21:35:02 <quintopia> why is hackego so slow today
21:35:41 <quintopia> the best thing about eating at moes is the music
21:35:47 <quintopia> so much good classic rock
21:35:55 <fizzie> Juding from the file sizes of my scrot .png's, I'm pretty sure they're at least somewhat compressed.
21:36:06 <quintopia> fizzello
21:36:14 <wob_jonas> I'm looking at specs and manuals and reviews of compact digital cameras do decide what I want to buy
21:36:16 <wob_jonas> it's funny
21:36:18 <lifthrasiir> quinthellopia
21:36:27 <HackEgo> No output.
21:36:32 <wob_jonas> some important things are hard to find out from them, so there's some luck-based elements
21:36:32 <quintopia> lifthiyasiir
21:36:40 <wob_jonas> also, the reviews are sometimes contradictory
21:37:05 <quintopia> are you saying camera shopping is the latest craze in RPGs
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21:50:45 <int-e> > (6232011, 1920*1080*3) -- png size vs. raw pixel data size of ybden's screenshot
21:50:46 <lambdabot> (6232011,6220800)
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21:52:34 <quintopia> shachaf: i believe your formaldehydra joke, with all its careful and laborious set-up, went way too underappreciated. Have a kudo.
21:52:57 <int-e> compressed png size using imagemagick's convert: 154575
21:53:00 <shachaf> quintopia: I was counting on oerjan to logread and swat me later or something.
21:53:25 <quintopia> shachaf: now you have guaranteed it
21:53:43 <shachaf> No, asking to be swatted is just *asking* not to be swatted.
21:55:41 <quintopia> but oerjan would be well aware of the strategy of avoiding a swatting by asking for it, and subvert it by swatting anyway!
21:56:32 <shachaf> He would have, until you mentioned it.
21:57:08 <quintopia> I only mentioned it to protect you from the swatting you would otherwise have received
21:57:17 <wob_jonas> I'm trying to read the manual for how good the controls are, especially for quick adjustments on the field; plus for cameras with a touchscreen, I'm checking the manual to make sure the touchscreen focus feature can be disabled.
21:57:31 <wob_jonas> Touchscreens are annoying, but they put them in many cameras.
21:58:02 <quintopia> wob_jonas: how about an old-school 3.5mm film camera? ;)
21:58:05 <wob_jonas> One thing that's hard to find out is how quickly the camera reacts to actually make photos, both when turning off and when it's already running.
21:58:31 <wob_jonas> quintopia: wait what? 3.5 mm? anyway, I'm too young for film cameras
21:58:48 <wob_jonas> is 3.5 mm film seriously a thing?
21:59:53 <fizzie> I've just trusted dpreview when buying cameras.
22:00:38 <wob_jonas> fizzie: that's where I'm looking at, but even then, I can't tell reaction speed from that, some cameras don't have reviews by dpreview, and other reviews are sometimes contradictory
22:00:49 <pikhq> wob_jonas: The normal film size was *35* mm.
22:01:18 <pikhq> I don't know of any 3.5mm standards.
22:01:19 <wob_jonas> like, one review says the battery time is short, the other says it's long. about the same camera.
22:01:43 <quintopia> pikhq: analog compression!
22:02:10 <wob_jonas> I can understand when one review says the controls are hard to use, and another says they're easy to use, because that depends on what you want to do with the camera.
22:05:08 <pikhq> There was a 16mm format, so that's something.
22:05:47 <wob_jonas> sure, there were lots of film standards
22:05:56 <wob_jonas> but 3.5 mm would seem smal
22:06:41 <pikhq> 3.5 mm, if used at all, would have to be in a microfilm system.
22:07:03 <fizzie> 8 mm is certainly a thing, though I would expect not for stills.
22:07:48 <fizzie> (Super-8 and all that.)
22:08:38 <wob_jonas> isn't microfilm when you take a normal size photographic film but compress a lot of text on it to store books in compact format, since text can be read even in small resolution?
22:08:57 <wob_jonas> for archiving documents in small spacr
22:08:58 <pikhq> Basically.
22:09:02 <wob_jonas> also before my time
22:09:11 <wob_jonas> I never had to use one
22:09:41 <miketo> does gnu tar work with lzmicrofiche?
22:10:18 <fizzie> Huh. Turns out the standard 8mm film frame size is actually exactly 3.5 mm tall (and 4.8 mm wide).
22:10:48 <fizzie> (It's still not called "3.5 mm" though. But at least the number is there.)
22:10:56 <wob_jonas> I'm still watching SGDQ videos
22:11:20 <fizzie> I watched the Super Mario Land 1 one just now.
22:11:23 <Taneb> wob_jonas, I have had to use microfilm!
22:11:27 <fizzie> Had the list open in a tab.
22:11:34 <wob_jonas> I don't much appreciate the first person 3d story games, but there are a lot of arcade games shown that were great
22:12:15 <wob_jonas> Sparkster seemed interesting (it's a Sonic/Jazz style 2d platformer)
22:12:26 <wob_jonas> and Dustforce was amazing
22:12:36 <wob_jonas> fizzie: Super Mario Land 1 was HORRIBLE
22:12:41 <wob_jonas> it's the worst speedrun I've ever seen
22:12:53 <wob_jonas> if you want to look speedruns for that game, look at older ones
22:13:03 <wob_jonas> it was ran much better in some older gd
22:13:05 <wob_jonas> gdq
22:13:54 <fizzie> There seems to be one from SGDQ 2012.
22:13:59 <quintopia> wob_jonas: i also have been catching up on all the ones i wasn't able to catch live
22:14:50 <wob_jonas> Oh, and there was this puzzle platformer Escape Goat, which seemed interesting, although it's hard to understand the puzzles from a speedrun
22:15:14 <quintopia> wob_jonas: the gimmick run was pretty good. the sm sunshine run was actually incredibly good. bouncey is actually the record holder and he pulled off some incredible tricks first try
22:15:15 <wob_jonas> Obviously the Super Metroid Any% race was worth to watch
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22:15:59 <quintopia> despite a major controller snafu, the blind SotN run was worth seeing
22:15:59 <wob_jonas> And the Tetris GM block was amazing as always
22:16:13 <wob_jonas> quintopia: yes, I've seen that! the blindfolded one
22:16:18 <quintopia> eh i quit watching the tetris one after TGM1. kind of boring to watch
22:16:27 <wob_jonas> The TAS block was underwhelming compared to earlier TAS blocks
22:16:31 <wob_jonas> WHAT?
22:16:36 <wob_jonas> tetris wasn't boring to watch
22:16:46 <wob_jonas> especially not if you skip the setup times and watch only the game getting played
22:16:50 <wob_jonas> at least it's not boring to me
22:16:59 <quintopia> it's boring to me
22:17:06 <int-e> I've played Escape Goat... it's very well made, but also quite difficult.
22:17:17 <int-e> (it was in some humble bundle)
22:17:18 <ais523> tetris was fun skipping setup times
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22:17:29 <wob_jonas> the 3d fsp adventures where you don't see anything of the story the game has, those are often boring to watch.
22:17:31 <ais523> but it probably needs a break, it's hard to add new content that hasn't already been seen
22:17:34 <ais523> bye fungot
22:17:37 <quintopia> it's beause there are four tetris games on screen and you can only watch one, and it's just--too fast to understand.
22:17:37 <wob_jonas> hi, ais523
22:17:41 <quintopia> it's like watching soccer
22:17:48 <wob_jonas> quintopia: that doesn't make it boring
22:17:57 <wob_jonas> it's the slow-paced games that are boring
22:18:08 <quintopia> did you watch shatterhand
22:18:09 <wob_jonas> if you can only watch one and it's still fast-paced, you can always rewatch
22:18:20 <quintopia> tgm isn't fast-paced
22:18:27 <wob_jonas> oh, and an interesting fact is,
22:18:31 <fizzie> ais523: In case you didn't notice, your new filter caught two attempted esolangs.org spammers. One of them then made a "Dfdhgfhj" page, presumably probing what does and doesn't get filtered. (I banned the two involved users manually after that.)
22:18:33 <quintopia> it's monotonous. it's the same thing for minutes on minutes
22:18:34 <wob_jonas> I usually find megaman games boring,
22:18:39 <wob_jonas> but this year had one that wasn't
22:18:43 <quintopia> screen fills up with blocks. lights dance around.
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22:19:06 <quintopia> fizzie: what is the new filter
22:19:37 <wob_jonas> Oh, and the Braid run was interesting too. And played quite well, with very few mistakes.
22:19:38 <quintopia> wob_jonas: if you like fast-paced runs, you surely enjoyed the defunct run
22:19:54 <wob_jonas> "shatterhand" -- hmm, what's that
22:20:02 <int-e> quintopia: it may not be smart to discuss this on a publicly logged channel?
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22:20:09 <int-e> I don't know.
22:20:15 <ais523> int-e: it's OK, the filter details are public anyway
22:20:19 <ais523> I could hide them but so far haven't seen a need to
22:20:39 <wob_jonas> oh, I'd like to mention Super Amazing Wagon Adventure. the game isn't very good, but together with the commentary it was hilarious
22:20:48 <ais523> also, the "action disallowed" message outright tells you how to get around the filter
22:21:00 <wob_jonas> filter? what filter?
22:21:07 <ais523> basically, the ban is on creating a page with a long name with your first edit, unless you also include a paragraph break in the page somewhere
22:21:10 <ais523> wob_jonas: esolangs.org spam filter
22:21:23 <wob_jonas> yes, Gimmick wasn't bad
22:21:40 <quintopia> wob_jonas: i enjoyed the SAWA commentary quite a bit
22:21:53 <wob_jonas> ais523: I see. so no more Real Fast Nora's Hair Saloon 2: Shear Disaster Download?
22:22:07 <ais523> wob_jonas: depends on the spambot framework
22:22:24 <ais523> I have a strong suspicion that the spambot framework people are using at esolang has no method of specifying "write a newline in the page text"
22:22:31 <ais523> because spammers come up with a bunch of workarounds but can't do that
22:22:47 <ais523> OTOH, paragraph breaks are something that legitimate users very often put in their own pages
22:22:58 <ais523> also, the ban is only on your first edit, and you can edit the sandbox in order to get around it
22:23:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Ais523 * blocked [[User:91.200.12.0/24]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): spam/vandalism against other people's user pages
22:23:57 <ais523> it's actually a /22 but I've only seen vandalism from the /24 range, I'll widen it if necessary
22:24:19 <ais523> fizzie: also it's a lot more than two spammers that have been caught by the filter now
22:24:32 <ais523> wait, no
22:24:38 <ais523> most were caught by filter 6
22:24:52 <ais523> which was there to catch a different spammer but seems to have caught many pages that the latest one tried
22:24:57 <wob_jonas> Have you watched Dustforce?
22:25:07 <wob_jonas> that run looked great
22:25:13 <ais523> you're right, only two were caught by the latest filter
22:25:45 <fizzie> I can't figure out what "PP SKS-LUGAN" *is*.
22:26:17 <fizzie> (Except a spammer.)
22:27:34 <quintopia> wob_jonas: yes i watched it. seemed very difficult. but i did not enjoy the game itself when i tried playing it
22:27:58 <wob_jonas> I see
22:28:47 <ais523> fwiw, I started trying to geolocate the quickbooks scanners
22:29:04 <int-e> scanners :)
22:29:11 <ais523> they're all from India, but not all from the same ISP, and some claim to be using different operating systems than others (that's fakeable but I'm inclined to think it's real in this case)
22:29:15 <wob_jonas> Oh, and that double-jump platformer, what was its name,
22:29:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * AsuMagic * New user account
22:29:39 <wob_jonas> Jumper Two, that's its name
22:29:41 <wob_jonas> that was nice too
22:30:36 <wob_jonas> different from the other double jump games I've seen on gdq like Super Meat Boy or I'm the Boshy, because it's strictly grid-based, and the graphics is much more easy to follow
22:31:01 <wob_jonas> so if you like precision platformers, I recommend it
22:31:12 <wob_jonas> but if you don't like precision platformers, you won't enjoy it of course
22:31:25 <ais523> any ideas which befunge interp these spammers are using?
22:32:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Ais523 * blocked [[User:112.196.160.55]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (account creation disabled): very commonly used by spambots
22:33:19 <zzo38> I found hints for a game in UHS format, but the company that distributes the program only distributes the reader programs for DOS, Windows, Macintosh, and Amiga, and the writer program is only available for Windows; furthermore, documentation for file format is not available, and it is not free software or freeware. Therefore, I wrote my own implementation that can be used on Linux.
22:33:52 <fizzie> ais523: No, but I used first Google hit for "befunge interpreter" (http://www.bedroomlan.org/tools/befunge-playground) for testing it. Wouldn't surprise me if others followed the same logic as well.
22:34:26 <zzo38> (The format is not so difficult to figure out.)
22:34:38 <myname> wait, so people are actively attacking this wiki?
22:35:03 <wob_jonas> Isn't there some way they can just skip the whole giving the correct answer to befunge-captcha?
22:35:26 <ais523> myname: I believe it's a mass-spam framework that uses human captcha-solvers
22:35:34 <myname> ah
22:35:56 <ais523> given how they seem to be able to solve any CAPTCHA we can come up with that isn't outright impossible
22:35:59 <fizzie> wob_jonas: Not as far as we know.
22:36:03 <ais523> but how bad they are at varying the content of their pages
22:36:28 <fizzie> Also, a quote from that Befunge playground page: "-- and as a way to practice JavaScript (not my favourite programming language [footnote: At least not back then — it's been growing in me since, though.]"
22:36:38 <fizzie> I wonder whether the choice of preposition -- in vs. on -- is accidental, or an intentional comment about JavaScript.
22:36:38 <wob_jonas> ais523: do you know for sure that they're filling the captcha answer correctly, rather than using another method?
22:36:42 <ais523> fizzie: also something very interested I just noticed
22:36:49 <ais523> *very interesting
22:37:02 <ais523> out of the three attempted edits made by the recent spammers
22:37:04 <fizzie> wob_jonas: Not *for sure*, but if I change it to a "question with a random answer" CAPTCHA, they never manage to pass that.
22:37:15 <ais523> there was a "submit anyway" button on the page that didn't actually do anything
22:37:19 <ais523> it was tried on one of the three edits, but not the other two
22:37:25 <wob_jonas> I see
22:37:26 <ais523> (that didn't do anything other than letting us know that it had been pressed)
22:37:41 <ais523> so I suspect there's human involvment in the edit submission part of things too
22:37:47 <ais523> presumably to catch any on-edit CAPTCHAs
22:37:57 <ais523> strangely, though, they don't just follow the advice there ("edit the Sandbox")
22:38:15 <ais523> so perhaps the spambot script is programmed to attempt resubmitting sometimes and not other times
22:38:22 <wob_jonas> Apparently if you already have an account, you can create an account without filling the captcha. Do you know from the logs that that's not what they're doing?
22:38:33 <ais523> (the button can also be rigged up to block anyone who clicks on it; that's been done in one filter which is very, very spambot-like, but not on most of them)
22:38:39 <ais523> wob_jonas: that's visible in the logs
22:38:48 <wob_jonas> good
22:39:25 <ais523> wob_jonas: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=newusers&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_tag_log=1
22:39:37 <ais523> if it says "was created" then it was created via the normal, enCAPTCHAed means
22:39:54 <wob_jonas> Thanks
22:40:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Extended Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48997&oldid=35674 * AsuMagic * (+927) /* The page should not be mentioning it helps improving speed of execution */ new section
22:40:53 <quintopia> how about a captcha that's just "here's a link to an irc web client ask the bot for the answer to the captcha"--and then you can just passively monitor the channel to see what happens
22:41:20 <wob_jonas> quintopia: that's always the fallback,
22:41:20 <fizzie> quintopia: That's what we use for the "impossible" CAPTCHA.
22:41:27 <ais523> quintopia: after fizzie put up the impossible captcha one of the spammers actually turned up here
22:41:30 <wob_jonas> but we monitor edits in the channel anyway
22:41:34 <ais523> btw, what does the impossible captcha look like?
22:42:15 <ais523> I've never seen it
22:42:26 <fizzie> ais523: I've varied it a bit every now and then, but the latest version was: "Sorry, we are having *very* persistent spammers. This question is currently impossible. In the meanwhile, try to find help on the <a href="/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal">freenode #esoteric channel</a>."
22:42:34 <fizzie> (Earlier it mentioned my nick.)
22:42:58 <fizzie> I did provide one person with the actual answer too, because they asked intelligently.
22:43:15 <ais523> I like that message
22:43:55 <ais523> there's some sites dealing with that sort of persistent spammer that I've seen that use an essay question as their PTCHA
22:45:32 <wob_jonas> there was some captcha thing that required you to fix a short program in some well-known programming language to conform to some description
22:45:57 <quintopia> wob_jonas: if they are farming captchas out to humans, that won't work either
22:46:14 <ais523> perhaps we should only give away accounts to people on the BF Joust hill
22:46:27 * Sgeo hasn
22:46:35 <Sgeo> t played BF Joust
22:46:53 <wob_jonas> ais523: that wouldn't work. I could modify an existing bf joust program slightly if you did that
22:47:04 <ais523> the point is that if you aren't cheating by blatantly copying someone else (which would admittedly be hard to check for)
22:47:17 <ais523> you need a lot of esolanging knowledge to do significantly well on the hill
22:47:27 <Sgeo> Maybe you need to make an esolang to get an account
22:47:30 <ais523> I guess you look for a program whose statistics are significantly different from the existing oens
22:47:32 <ais523> *ones
22:47:44 <wob_jonas> Sgeo: NOOO! that would just lead to more STUPID esolangs
22:48:56 <ais523> OK, what about this: you need to submit a BF Joust program with a win/loss record better than 50%, and which doesn't have the same programs-it-wins-against and programs-it-loses-against as any existing program
22:50:03 <int-e> Let's put it this way... I wouldn't bother trying.
22:50:04 <wob_jonas> ais523: that would be hard. I wouldn't be able to do it
22:50:31 <wob_jonas> or maybe I would, but I'd try by cheating, modifying an existing good program to make it a little worse against some opponents
22:50:53 <wob_jonas> by tracing what it does and breaking some branch that occurs rarely but at least once in a winning gram
22:50:55 <wob_jonas> game
22:51:31 <ais523> wob_jonas: I wouldn't consider that cheating
22:51:39 <Sgeo> Can we just do rate limiting? One new person (determined by talking to them here) per day?
22:52:03 <Sgeo> I don't think people are clamoring at the bit to join
22:52:06 <ais523> in fact, it's something I'd consider most esolang enthusiasts to be able to do
22:52:06 <ais523> but most spambots not to be able to do
22:52:06 <ais523> Sgeo: the person-of-the-day would usually be a spammer, I think?
22:52:15 <ais523> but that's basically what the impossible captcha is, without the rate limit
22:52:36 <myname> i like the idea of fixing a bug
22:52:39 <wob_jonas> Could we ask people to solve golf questions?
22:52:52 <fizzie> It's inherently rate-limited in that people here will stop answering if 50 people all come in at the same time.
22:53:10 <ais523> wob_jonas: possibly, although people's golfing ability varies wildly
22:53:28 <fizzie> The "ask here for an account" thing probably works as a solution, but it's a little bit awkward. The channel's not *always* active, anyway.
22:53:45 <ais523> which reminds me, there are a ton of languages, like Perl and Ruby, where people have done hello worlds in anagol with not enough alphanums for them to contain the actual hello world string
22:53:47 <fizzie> Also wiki-philosophy, "everyone can edit" and all that.
22:53:59 <ais523> any ideas what trick's being used there?
22:54:16 <wob_jonas> Like, on a golf site, take a hole posed by a respected user, to which answers aren't revealed yet, but at least two respected golfer has solved it at least two days ago, in some popular language, and solve it in the same language at most 1.8 times as long as the shortest solution.
22:54:45 <wob_jonas> ais523: in perl you can write programs without any alphanumerical character, although that's difficult
22:54:49 <wob_jonas> I can tell about it
22:54:58 <wob_jonas> with just few alphanumeric characters it's easier
22:55:02 <ais523> wob_jonas: no, I nkow that
22:55:09 <ais523> the thing is, this is /shorter/ than using the literal string
22:55:18 <ais523> like, my problem isn't how to do it at all, but how it leads to a shorter program
22:55:23 <wob_jonas> "people's golfing ability varies wildly" => people's bfjousting ability also vary
22:55:46 <wob_jonas> ais523: um, could it be using base64 unpack in perl? that's a common compression technique
22:55:52 <wob_jonas> no, base64 pack
22:56:36 <int-e> In principle there could be a list of such tasks and the person trying for an account could pick one of them to attack.
22:56:48 <ais523> wob_jonas: how does that produce the space? also, I don't think "Hello, world!" is short enough for that to improve compression
22:57:10 <ais523> we also know that the solution uses ASCII characters only
22:57:22 <ais523> (specifically, 6 alnum, 7 punctuation, and presumably 1 whitespace to make 14)
22:58:05 <wob_jonas> ais523: the typical idiom in perl is lc pack"u", because pack"u" is uuencode, which produces characters from \x20 to \x5f, which includes space, so lc pack"u" gives you space and numbers and most punctuation and all lowercase chars
22:58:33 <wob_jonas> the result is often evalled or s///ee-ed
22:58:50 <ais523> wob_jonas: this isn't going to make "Hello, world!\n" shorter
22:58:55 <wob_jonas> only ascii? hmm, that's harder
22:59:02 <wob_jonas> is that in perl?
22:59:06 <ais523> wob_jonas: yes, Perl
22:59:09 <wob_jonas> hmm
22:59:11 <ais523> also, "only ASCII" is not a restriction
22:59:13 <wob_jonas> can it exec?
22:59:18 <ais523> rather, the 14-char solution happens to be ASCII
22:59:29 <wob_jonas> yes, but pack"u" usually gives non-ascii source
22:59:29 <ais523> it doesn't say exec is denied
22:59:38 <ais523> so I'm wondering if it's calling /usr/bin/hello somehow
22:59:41 <wob_jonas> oh, then maybe it execs GNU hello from path
22:59:43 <wob_jonas> exactly
23:00:03 <ais523> that said, hello doesn't seem to be installed on the system
23:00:35 <myname> is there an hq9 interpreter? :D
23:00:44 <wob_jonas> yes, maybe that
23:01:19 <ais523> yep, it doesn't have hello
23:01:22 <ais523> I ran $,=$/;print</usr/bin/*>
23:01:23 <wob_jonas> something like say`hq9+ h`
23:01:33 <wob_jonas> or wherever that interpreter is
23:01:40 <ais523> there also isn't an executable called hq9+ or any obvious variant
23:01:41 <wob_jonas> or maybe invokes golfscript or something like that
23:01:57 <wob_jonas> ais523: golfscript? or whichever language has a helloworld builtin
23:02:18 <ais523> gs2, goruby, etc. aren't in /usr/bin
23:02:20 <zzo38> I think goruby does?
23:02:42 <ais523> gs2 and goruby both do
23:02:48 <wob_jonas> zzo38: goruby? really? I didn't know it had a hello
23:02:49 <ais523> gs2 has a shorter name so would probably be better for the purpose
23:02:56 <wob_jonas> ais523: somewhere else in the path?
23:03:03 <int-e> `` python -c 'import __hello__'
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23:03:37 <ais523> wob_jonas: goruby is basically just ruby with some changed functions and a hello world builtin
23:03:50 <int-e> (that's too long, and prints 'Hello world...' in the but yeah, that would be the basic idea)
23:03:58 <ais523> "`goruby`; print $!" prints "No such file or directory"
23:04:02 <HackEgo> Hello world...
23:04:18 <ais523> so nowhere on the path
23:04:49 <ais523> also $^X is /usr/bin/perl
23:04:58 <wob_jonas> ais523: no, goruby is ruby with an autoload function that autoloads methods from any abbreviated name, plus some custom method aliases including infix operators for what you normally use alphabetic names, plus an Enum instance for Integer which is very useful
23:05:00 <ais523> so I assume that languages can't exec each other, only base systems
23:05:23 <wob_jonas> and I think some of Array's methods extended to Enum so that you can omit most .to_a
23:05:39 <wob_jonas> in such a way that some of it converts the resulting array back to the original type, for byte string handling
23:05:49 <wob_jonas> I didn't know it had custom functions that do stuff like hello world
23:07:23 <ais523> most golfing languages have a hello world builting
23:07:24 <ais523> *builtin
23:07:24 <ais523> as a joke
23:08:01 <wob_jonas> yes, the golfing languages of the style of gs2 or pyth or stuff with single byte commands do, but I didn't know goruby was like that
23:08:06 <wob_jonas> oh well
23:08:50 <int-e> why does nodejs contain "Hello, world!" as a string...
23:08:51 <wob_jonas> is it possible that it somehow abuses a hole in the sandbox to get information from elsewhere, like from another golf solution process started at the same time?
23:10:10 <wob_jonas> or more like, a different golf solution process pushes information into it
23:10:40 <wob_jonas> like, the solution is sleep 9, but another process finds its stdout and writes hello world into it
23:11:07 <myname> or in a tempfile. or a fifo
23:11:18 <wob_jonas> including even past holes that have since been fixed
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23:11:42 <ais523> wob_jonas: good point, it's problem 1
23:11:47 <ais523> so it could be a case of abuse of past holes
23:11:49 <quintopia> why did ais523 getting people to spam the bfjoust leaderboard in lieu of spamming the wiki?
23:11:59 <quintopia> i'd rather have a messy wiki than a messy bfjoust leaderboard
23:12:11 <ais523> quintopia: well the leaderboard doesn't change unless you actually get a program onto it
23:12:35 <quintopia> ais523: posting a copy of the top program gets a program onto it guaranteed
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23:12:57 <ais523> quintopia: right, part of our discussion was ways to combat that
23:14:23 <ybden> fizzie> Juding from the file sizes of my scrot .png's, I'm pretty sure they're at least somewhat compressed. ← I use -q 100, but I'm not sure how quality should affect compression considering it's lossless
23:14:47 <wob_jonas> make people have to invite an eso operator for a drink to register. do we have admins from both coasts of the US?
23:15:03 <quintopia> ais523: short of "rewriting the hill to forbid it" and "setting up a parallel hill that doesn't modify the real one" i don't see what combatting there is--and discussing ways of combatting abuse on the bfj hill, something that doesn't even occur now, is already tangential to combatting abuse on the wiki
23:15:38 <ais523> quintopia: you can not accept a program if its win/loss pattern is too similar to an existing one
23:16:00 <izabera> http://corruptmyfile.com/
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23:16:29 <quintopia> ais523: aka "rewrite the hill to forbid it"
23:16:31 <myname> wob_jonas: because the us is obviously everything that matters?
23:16:31 <fizzie> ybden: "For lossless compression formats, like png, low quality means high compression."
23:16:57 <wob_jonas> myname: no, but I know we have enough people from Europe
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23:17:16 <ybden> fizzie: Where's that? In the source?
23:17:26 <fizzie> ybden: scrot --help.
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23:17:38 <fizzie> ybden: (Although I did actually read it from the source.)
23:17:49 <fizzie> It's got some sort of internal logic (low quality otherwise -> smaller files -> needs higher compression), but it's still pretty wonky.
23:18:11 <ybden> fizzie: Huh. Weird that it's not in the manpage, considering that the help output and the manpage are pretty much the same
23:18:21 * ybden sets quality to 1
23:18:40 <ybden> fizzie: I do recall that it made the images all speckly though
23:18:46 <ybden> Which should not be happening
23:18:54 <wob_jonas> an essay question isn't such a bad idea anyway. tell us anything about what you like and don't like in esolangs or similar, in between 150 and 3000 words.
23:18:56 <ybden> unless it was producing a JPEg instead
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23:19:22 <ais523> ybden: maybe it's reducing the color depth
23:19:23 <ais523> in which case the conversion is lossy due to losing the low-order bits of the color information
23:19:36 <ybden> I should test this
23:19:40 <oerjan> wob_jonas: afair we don't currently have _any_ active admins from the americas, either wiki or channel.
23:19:44 <ybden> Or, better still, write my own screenshot tool
23:20:09 <wob_jonas> oerjan: pity.
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23:20:13 <wob_jonas> ok, so that wouldn't work.
23:20:16 <zzo38> If using X window then you can use "xwd" program to make a screenshots
23:20:53 <wob_jonas> I sometimes just use gimp to take screenshots
23:21:12 <wob_jonas> because I want to edit the screenshot a bit anyway, so why not create it right in the image editor?
23:21:15 <ais523> zzo38: is it possible to run an xwd process continuously that can be requested to make screenshots without exiting?
23:21:22 <ais523> I'm wondering about how to see the screen "inside" xvfb
23:21:47 <wob_jonas> ais523: there are like four or five programs similar to xvfb, and some of them offer that service
23:22:01 <wob_jonas> there's a VNC-based one, but there's more I don't know
23:22:04 <zzo38> You could make the shell script to do xwd continuously
23:22:05 <wob_jonas> someone here talked about them
23:23:58 <ais523> wob_jonas: actually what I'd really like
23:24:10 <ais523> would be an xvfb-like program that stored the screen-as-a-whole image in some memory internally
23:24:14 <ais523> that could be read using a debugger
23:25:00 <wob_jonas> ais523: dunno. maybe grep the channel logs for xvfb to find out what the other programs were
23:26:26 <fizzie> ais523: There's a Xvfb that provides you with a mmap
23:26:31 <wob_jonas> Or you could try ffmpeg or ImageMagick, I think they both have ways to input from an X screen, and then you can make them write a raw file to a pipe or something
23:26:34 <fizzie> 'd file you can use to inspect the screen.
23:26:47 <fizzie> ais523: Actually, that's just plain Xvfb.
23:26:51 <fizzie> ais523: See the "-fbdir" option.
23:27:18 <oerjan> @tell shachaf <shachaf> Formaldehydra is the best way to preserve it. <-- -----###
23:27:18 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
23:27:38 <fizzie> "The following files are created if the -fbdir option is given. framebuffer-directory/Xvfb_screen<n>: Memory mapped file containing screen n's framebuffer memory, one file per screen. The file is in xwd format. Thus, taking a full-screen snapshot can be done with a file copy command, and the resulting snapshot will even contain the cursor image."
23:28:27 <ais523> fizzie: oh wow
23:28:29 <ais523> that seems really useful
23:28:58 <wob_jonas> wait, wouldn't copying the file give you a potentially torn image, because reading the file isn't atomic?
23:29:31 <zzo38> Opening the file probably will be atomic though isn't it? I don't know but you can try and see if it is working?
23:29:39 <pikhq> The same is true of reading the screen.
23:29:56 <pikhq> (X doesn't do vsync very well)
23:38:51 <fizzie> (There's also a -shmem option, which "specifies that the framebuffer should be put in shared memory. The shared memory ID for each screen will be printed by the server. The shared memory is in xwd format." I don't expect it to be any more atomic, but it's an alternative.)
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23:46:33 <oerjan> mem shmem
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23:49:09 <myname> my exact thoughts
23:54:45 <oerjan> fizzie: fungot disappeared again.
23:54:57 <oerjan> it may not be altogether stable.
23:55:20 <fizzie> I don't know what's up with it.
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23:57:53 <oerjan> fungot: what's up with you?
23:57:53 <fungot> oerjan: eval ( call/ cc is just magic, ok?"
23:58:09 <myname> lol
23:58:47 <ais523> it's clearly following continuations to other places in the logs
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00:01:03 <oerjan> fancy
00:01:44 <wob_jonas> you mean like tcsh, which can process labels and gotos in an interactive command-line between commands?
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00:18:50 <int-e> so I have a moderately cheating 12 byte hello world in bash.
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00:22:25 <oerjan> int-e: ?
00:24:10 <wob_jonas> int-e: weren't we talking about perl?
00:24:23 <wob_jonas> I mean, for golfing, the language matters a lot
00:24:35 <int-e> oerjan: '23:53:45 <ais523> which reminds me, there are a ton of languages, like Perl and Ruby, where people have done hello worlds in anagol with not enough alphanums for them to contain the actual hello world string'
00:24:54 <int-e> wob_jonas: bash is in the same category.
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00:26:46 <wob_jonas> sorry, I mean, yes, 12 bytes in golf is impressive
00:27:00 <wob_jonas> I'm still reading a camera manual
00:27:19 <wob_jonas> (they call it manual, but a large part of it is about crazy automatic modes that I'll probably never use)
00:28:21 <tromp> BLC8 has no less than 16 12-byte hello world programs:)
00:28:47 <wob_jonas> tromp: does it have a hello world shorter than 12 bytes?
00:28:57 <tromp> no
00:29:22 <tromp> but you can think of it as a 11.5 byte program rounded up
00:30:10 <tromp> it uses a half-byte cat program
00:31:06 <prooftechnique> I'm curious about the half-byte cat
00:31:37 <tromp> see http://www.ioccc.org/2012/tromp/hint.html
00:31:42 <wob_jonas> prooftechnique: brute force it if you want to know what it is
00:31:49 <wob_jonas> there aren't that many half-byte programs
00:32:00 <wob_jonas> yes, I know there's a halting problem and all, but still
00:32:34 <prooftechnique> Oh, that's cute
00:33:33 <prooftechnique> That's a cute cat
00:37:52 <oerjan> here kitty kitty
00:38:08 <shachaf> @messages-lead
00:38:08 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 10m 50s ago: <shachaf> Formaldehydra is the best way to preserve it. <-- -----###
00:38:15 <shachaf> quintopia: netcraft confirms it hth
00:38:52 <shachaf> But now I don't know whether that @tell came before or after oerjan logread the discussion.
00:39:08 <oerjan> *MWAHAHAHA*
00:39:12 <wob_jonas> `? formaldehydra
00:39:19 <HackEgo> formaldehydra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:39:57 <oerjan> shachaf: ok disclosure: i had seen it since i search for my nick first.
00:40:10 <oerjan> i hadn't thoroughly read it, though.
00:43:22 <quintopia> shachaf: nice job. nailed it. high five.
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01:11:05 <int-e> In any case this seems to be a file system exploration exercise to a very large extent. For example, this is a hello world shell script on anagol: ruby ../oldlocal/test.rb
01:13:56 <int-e> (which can be shortened to ruby ../o*/*b and a few other versions, which is quite competetive)
01:17:10 <int-e> tromp: you miscount the characters, I think. "Hello, world" is 12 bytes... and still missing the exclamation mark.
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01:35:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48999&oldid=48996 * Darkrifts * (+665) /* Documentation */
01:38:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49001&oldid=48998 * Darkrifts * (+106) /* Documentation */
01:41:53 <izabera> tromp: https://tromp.github.io/img/construct.9x19.gif what's this
01:44:37 <izabera> it seems weird to click the picture of an illegal position to get to your page for the number of legal positions
01:49:22 <Sgeo> Just downloaded the Kindle PC program
01:49:42 <Sgeo> The font size that I'm comfortable with on windowed mode is too small for me in fullscreen mode :(
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02:11:49 <oerjan> boʰily
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02:15:27 <boily> `relcome iaglium
02:15:52 <HackEgo> iaglium: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
02:16:10 <boily> heǁǁørjan!
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02:34:04 <prooftechnique> That sounds suspiciously Welsh
02:34:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49004&oldid=49003 * Darkrifts * (+44) /* Unexpected behavior */
02:35:22 <boily> prhellooftechelloniquello!
02:42:21 <Sgeo> I don't understand Rare Candy in the TCG, isn't that how normal evolution works?
02:43:02 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; ls *porth*
02:43:07 <HackEgo> porthello
02:43:14 <Sgeo> Oh, it skips the stage 1?
02:43:20 <oerjan> `? porthello
02:43:24 <HackEgo> Hellonfused one. Porthellos are the standard greeting format in #esoteric. Best enjoyed with some thé or caffè and a fternooner.
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02:48:20 <izabera> `? fternooner
02:48:23 <HackEgo> fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry.
02:51:23 <\oren\> why are the quotes weird for danish and Norwegian, but Swedish has normal quotes?
02:52:08 <oerjan> ...
02:52:30 <\oren\> Wait.. why does the sweidsh one start with a ” and not a “?
02:52:43 <boily> he\\oren\. those are the standard quotation marks according to their respective languages hth
02:52:58 * oerjan swats \oren\ for cultural bias -----###
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02:54:21 <\oren\> Really, swedish mandates both starting and ending with a ”?
02:55:01 <oerjan> the hydra's rightmost dire group is now down to two segments.
02:55:14 <oerjan> *two dire
02:55:32 <oerjan> as opposed to the six earlier today.
02:55:56 <boily> what is this hydra y'all are speaking of?
02:56:05 <oerjan> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml
02:56:17 <boily> \oren\: that's the way it is. or at least the wikipédia way. hth.
03:03:08 <\oren\> boily: I looked it up. Apparently hungarian quoting starts like a german and ends like a swede
03:03:34 <boily> quotations are weird.
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03:04:22 <\oren\> I prefer to have separate beginning and ending quotes
03:04:41 <oerjan> `wisdom supercali
03:04:50 <HackEgo> supercalifragilisticexponential growth//Supercalifragilisticexponential growth leaves Graham's number in the dust.
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03:16:24 <quintopia> oerjan: does it leave it in cantor's dust? twh
03:18:15 <oerjan> quite possibly.
03:25:47 <izabera> useful resources for unicode http://www.macchiato.com/
03:27:13 <quintopia> useful information for delicious espresso
03:27:39 <oerjan> ...
03:28:26 <oerjan> i hit the wrong button and the hydra is gone.
03:28:33 <quintopia> iei!
03:28:34 <oerjan> ...it was inevitable.
03:28:45 <\oren\> expresso is best enjoyed with foamed milk
03:28:46 <quintopia> swut u get
03:29:16 <quintopia> next time run it at full cps (chops per second)
03:30:11 <\oren\> actually, foamed milk is really good even by itslf
03:36:24 <oerjan> i have no interest in that.
03:37:17 <\oren\> oerjan: you don't like milk?
03:37:49 <oerjan> that was to quintopia hth
03:38:14 <oerjan> also my stomach doesn't cope with hot milk.
03:38:47 <quintopia> oerjan: what do you have interest in? have you now lost all interest in hydrae
03:38:52 <oerjan> bah let's try some manual strategy.
03:39:09 <oerjan> here we have a depth 6 hydra...
03:50:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Apple3.14]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49006&oldid=48962 * Conor O'Brien * (+1) /* Implementation */
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03:57:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bynary/implementation.js]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49007 * Conor O'Brien * (+3054) Created page with "An implementation of [[Bynary]] written in node js by [[User:Conor O'Brien]]. Make sure you `npm install readwrite` before running. == Implementation == const rw = require("..."
03:57:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Conor O'Brien]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49008&oldid=48967 * Conor O'Brien * (+38) /* Languages I have implemented */
03:57:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bynary]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49009&oldid=36112 * Conor O'Brien * (+136)
03:59:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bynary]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49010&oldid=49009 * Conor O'Brien * (-2) /* Implementation */
04:13:55 <oerjan> enough of that. now reddit ->
04:23:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49011&oldid=49004 * Darkrifts * (+0) /* Documentation */
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05:03:56 * Sgeo vaguely wonders if Hex TCG is any good
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05:17:51 <hppavilion[1]> I just started listening to a video (https://youtu.be/LMMSEZk7Eqo, if you're curious)
05:18:06 <hppavilion[1]> And I noticed something I feel I should have picked up on years ago
05:18:26 <hppavilion[1]> The way the audio is set up for my headphones makes it sound like the music is coming from /inside/ my head
05:18:32 <Sgeo> What is that music
05:21:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49012&oldid=48990 * Darkrifts * (+190) /* Implementations */
05:31:19 <hppavilion[1]> ...why is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_August_2016 a thing?
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05:45:54 <zzo38> How to convert a grammar to optimized so that the right side can have only up to one terminal and only at the beginning, and that if it contains actions then it contains nothing else?
05:51:43 <Sgeo> "Look through your deck. Shuffle your deck afterward.
05:51:43 <Sgeo> "
05:52:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Calcutape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49013&oldid=47351 * Darkrifts * (+350)
05:52:43 <Sgeo> I assume a good player should never have a need for that. And there goes hope that PTCGO has a UI that reminds you of your deck (do any card games have that?)
05:53:18 <zzo38> For Pokemon card, six cards are set aside at the beginning, so you might not know what cards remain until you can look.
05:53:44 <Sgeo> Oh, good point
05:53:45 <shachaf> Shuffling your deck isn't useful in PTCGO?
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06:06:34 <prooftechnique> Is that like Pokémon Go, but you catch cards instead of animated monsters? Seems like a niche market
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09:01:15 <zzo38> The stuff to convert grammar I mentioned, I think the last part it is not difficult (I can think of it) but also I think it is wrong anyways so is irrelevant, other stuff I may be able to think of by myself anyways. But there are other problems anyways that I have not mentioned
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09:09:32 <zzo38> This book might help too
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09:31:31 <hppavilion[1]> An interesting thing about English (and indeed, most natural languages) is that it's beyond context sensitive
09:32:07 <hppavilion[1]> Because the way you talk necessarily changes based on the environment of the discussion- who you are, who you're talking to, and sometimes even the environment
09:32:16 <hppavilion[1]> An interesting example is the word "dad"
09:32:36 <hppavilion[1]> In most cases, you say "my dad" (or "my father")
09:32:45 <shachaf> "If a language is not regular, it requires a machine with at least Ω(log log n) space to recognize (where n is the input size).[22] In other words, DSPACE(o(log log n)) equals the class of regular languages."
09:33:02 <shachaf> int-e: Is that sort of comparison of Ω and o legitimate?
09:33:09 <hppavilion[1]> But when talking to a sibling, you're more likely to just say "dad"
09:33:20 <hppavilion[1]> And this also applies to your mother
09:33:34 <hppavilion[1]> But if you have two gay dads, then it changes
09:34:49 <zzo38> You can also have many English words that have many meanings, can be confusing and ambiguous, and many logic also isn't work with English speaking so well, so in addition to beyond context sensitive there is even more than that too.
09:34:51 <hppavilion[1]> (Now that I think about it, who do people with two fathers discuss their father? I assume they reference them by name, but then what about when trying to get the attention of one but not specifically the other? In a straight couple you'd just say "mom" or "dad", but if your parents are same-sex I guess you'd either have to use their names or create a separate system ("dad" and "dud" perhaps?))
09:35:13 <izabera> dad and papa
09:35:30 <hppavilion[1]> But you usually don't say "dad" when talking to a grandparent about your father
09:35:37 <hppavilion[1]> You say "my dad"
09:35:50 <hppavilion[1]> And it isn't linked to which side of the family they're on
09:36:40 <hppavilion[1]> But in an emotional-public context- for example, a sad Facebook post after the death of your father- you're likely to call them "Dad" instead of "my dad"
09:42:42 <hppavilion[1]> 4320p: Soon to be a thing
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09:49:11 <izabera> at some point increasing the resolution will become less and less appealing
10:13:41 <izabera> i found out that my long forgotten youtube chan is still there
10:14:01 <izabera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwynSN_DBSI full of wizard101 videos like this one
10:14:11 <izabera> ah the memories :')
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11:01:44 <int-e> shachaf: well the two sets Ω(log log n) and o(log log n) are certainly disjoint and the latter contains the regular languages and the former all the rest.
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11:03:54 <int-e> shachaf: of course it would be wrong to think that Ω(log log n) and o(log log n) are complements of each other.
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11:06:42 <int-e> wob_jonas: what's the cheapest way for perl to invoke an external program and print its output?
11:07:12 <int-e> (I'm wondering whether the perl hello world entries are based on the same trick as the shell ones)
11:09:10 <wob_jonas> int-e: it depends. it can be exec"foo", or print`foo`, or say`foo`, or `foo 2>&1`, or just `foo` if it's printing to stderr, or just #!foo : if there's a shebang line but it doesn't mention perl, then I think perl will helpfully attempt to run the program in the shebang line
11:09:39 <shachaf> int-e: Do you mean DSPACE() in the first sentence?
11:09:41 <wob_jonas> int-e: I don't know which of these work in the case of anagolf
11:10:15 <int-e> ah, the shebang it is.
11:10:18 <wob_jonas> int-e: you can also try to check existing revealed perl solutions on anagolf, or ask mtve who's sometimes in this channel
11:10:40 <wob_jonas> int-e: and I think I'm missing some others
11:10:47 <wob_jonas> hmm
11:11:01 <int-e> thanks!
11:11:14 <wob_jonas> oh yes, there was the non-golf but VERY sneaky unshift"foo|";print<>
11:11:26 <wob_jonas> no wait, that's a syntax error
11:11:38 <wob_jonas> um, but anyway, get "foo|" onto @ARGV and then <>
11:11:44 <wob_jonas> there was some short sneaky way to do that
11:11:47 <wob_jonas> I don't recall what
11:11:55 <int-e> so that leaves one puzzle... how on earth does (or did) the 11 character bash entry work.
11:12:00 <wob_jonas> probably not enough for this golf, but it features in obfu
11:12:07 <wob_jonas> let me check
11:12:19 <wob_jonas> int-e: could it be using a full path for an executable not in PATH ?
11:12:32 <wob_jonas> like, there may be a directory containing the interpreters for all languages or something?
11:13:26 <int-e> 02:11:05 <int-e> In any case this seems to be a file system exploration exercise to a very large extent. For example, this is a hello world shell script on anagol: ruby ../oldlocal/test.rb
11:14:08 <wob_jonas> and in bash it uses wildcards like /*/*/*/h*+ or something which happens to expand to /usr/local/bin/hq9+ /something/irrelevant/containing/letterh
11:14:33 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, anagol can be like that
11:14:48 <wob_jonas> you remember all the programs that depend on the pid or even the time you run them
11:14:56 <int-e> anyway I think that's more than enough of a hint.
11:15:15 <int-e> yeah I was looking for an angle to use the pid... didn't find any in this case.
11:15:32 <wob_jonas> sure, the pid won't help here
11:16:08 <int-e> I was thinking along the lines of `find`[$$]
11:16:35 <wob_jonas> how old is anagolf? could there have been a program that worked only for one second at epoch time 1234567890 in 2009-02 ?
11:17:24 <int-e> well, we have a stamp for the 11 byte bash entry: 2008/01/30 16:34:13
11:17:45 <wob_jonas> I see
11:18:07 <int-e> and it's quite possible that it got broken later
11:18:57 <int-e> 02:13:56 <int-e> (which can be shortened to ruby ../o*/*b and a few other versions, which is quite competetive) <-- once you do stuff like that it obviously becomes very fragile.
11:20:47 <wob_jonas> yeah
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11:27:22 <int-e> But I find it highly amusing that the anagol server has a hello world program right under our noses... okay... once you move aside a pile of newspapaer and some old food.
11:28:47 <wob_jonas> int-e: that's normal. what computer doesn't have a hello-world program? are you thinking of non-unix systems which have no useful command-line utilities installed, so you can't even grep in a file or add two numbers without installing something?
11:30:01 <int-e> wob_jonas: I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised by how many GNU core utils do *not* implement any Hello, world! easter egg.
11:31:04 <wob_jonas> we should get a command-line hello world and a libc hello world, both such that they can print all the variations in case and punctuation, in the next revision of POSIX
11:34:09 <wob_jonas> Does busybox have a hello world command in it yet?
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11:55:42 <wob_jonas> `hello
11:56:07 <HackEgo> Hello
11:56:53 <int-e> `hello does this take any arguments?
11:56:59 <HackEgo> Hello
11:57:12 <wob_jonas> `hello world
11:57:13 <HackEgo> Hello
11:57:23 <wob_jonas> `hello -w
11:57:25 <HackEgo> Hello
11:57:32 <int-e> `file bin/hello
11:57:38 <HackEgo> bin/hello: ASCII text
11:57:44 <int-e> `cat bin/hello
11:57:45 <HackEgo> echo Hello
11:57:51 <int-e> `rm bin/hello
11:58:00 <HackEgo> No output.
11:58:12 <wob_jonas> hey, don't delete it! we need a hello world executable conveniently accessible
11:58:54 <int-e> well it should do more than just that, I think
11:59:04 <wob_jonas> yeah
11:59:09 <wob_jonas> should I create a saner one?
12:03:24 <int-e> well, sanity is overrated. it should be mildly interesting in my view... do something with an argument, perhaps be a bit random...
12:04:04 <int-e> `` shuf -1 quotes
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12:04:11 <HackEgo> shuf: invalid option -- '1' \ Try `shuf --help' for more information.
12:04:45 <int-e> `` shuf -n 1 quotes
12:04:45 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"h",pack"h",$ARGV[0]",($c&4?"w":"W"),"orld",($c&8?"."),"\n";' &&chmod -c a+x $e
12:04:59 <HackEgo> mode of `bin/hello' changed from 0644 (rw-r--r--) to 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
12:05:01 <HackEgo> ​<Deewiant> Reality isn't a part of physics
12:05:01 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:05:05 <HackEgo> String found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "]",($c&4?"" \ (Missing operator before ",($c&4?"?) \ String found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "w":"" \ Bareword found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "":"W" \ (Missing operator before W?) \ String found where operator
12:05:16 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"h",pack"h",$ARGV[0]",($c&4?"w":"W"),"orld",($c&8?".":""),"\n";' &&chmod -c a+x $e
12:05:17 <izabera> booo
12:05:20 <HackEgo> No output.
12:05:22 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:05:26 <HackEgo> String found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "]",($c&4?"" \ (Missing operator before ",($c&4?"?) \ String found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "w":"" \ Bareword found where operator expected at /hackenv/bin/hello line 2, near "":"W" \ (Missing operator before W?) \ String found where operator
12:05:31 <izabera> booo x2
12:06:45 <int-e> `ls tmp
12:06:47 <HackEgo> args \ fruit \ sh \ spline \ spout \ tempcmd \ testcmd \ tmp_jonas
12:06:50 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"h",pack"h",$ARGV[0];print+($c&1?"H":"h"),"ello",($c&2?"":","),($c&4?" W":" w"),"orld",($c&8?".":""),"\n";'
12:06:54 <HackEgo> No output.
12:06:57 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:07:01 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:07:05 <wob_jonas> `hello 2
12:07:07 <HackEgo> hello world
12:07:08 <wob_jonas> `hello 1
12:07:09 <HackEgo> Hello, world
12:07:10 <wob_jonas> `hello f
12:07:12 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:07:16 <int-e> `` exec >tmp/foo; echo 1; echo 3; echo 2
12:07:17 <HackEgo> No output.
12:07:20 <wob_jonas> `hello F
12:07:21 <int-e> `cat tmp/foo
12:07:23 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:07:23 <HackEgo> 1 \ 3 \ 2
12:07:28 <wob_jonas> that's wrong
12:07:29 <wob_jonas> `hello 7
12:07:33 <HackEgo> Hello World
12:07:36 <wob_jonas> `hello 9
12:07:40 <HackEgo> Hello, world.
12:08:21 <int-e> Hmm, no exclamation mark.
12:08:23 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"C",pack"h",$ARGV[0];print+($c&1?"H":"h"),"ello",($c&2?"":","),($c&4?" W":" w"),"orld",($c&8?".":""),"\n";'
12:08:27 <HackEgo> No output.
12:08:32 <wob_jonas> `hello 9
12:08:34 <HackEgo> Hello, world.
12:08:36 <wob_jonas> `hello f
12:08:38 <HackEgo> Hello World.
12:08:39 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:08:41 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:08:48 <wob_jonas> int-e: oh, we can add that as an option too
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12:09:13 <int-e> . o O ( and !!!1 )
12:09:26 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"C",pack"h2",$ARGV[0];print+($c&1?"H":"h"),"ello",($c&2?"":","),($c&4?" W":" w"),"orld",($c&16?"!":$c&8?".":""),($c&32?"":"\n");'
12:09:28 <wob_jonas> hopefully
12:09:32 <HackEgo> No output.
12:09:33 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:09:34 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:09:35 <wob_jonas> `hello f
12:09:36 <HackEgo> Hello World.
12:09:38 <wob_jonas> `hello 10
12:09:41 <HackEgo> Hello, world
12:09:42 <wob_jonas> `hello 01
12:09:45 <HackEgo> hello, world!
12:09:49 <wob_jonas> there
12:10:05 <wob_jonas> any other options you want?
12:10:15 <wob_jonas> `hello world
12:10:17 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:10:31 <int-e> nah I just wanted the Hello, world! to be covered as well
12:10:44 <wob_jonas> `hello 81
12:10:46 <HackEgo> hello, world!
12:10:50 <wob_jonas> `hello 41
12:10:52 <HackEgo> hello, World!
12:10:56 <wob_jonas> `hello 11
12:10:58 <HackEgo> Hello, world!
12:11:00 <int-e> Which seems to be the most common one, really. At least that's the impression from inside my bubble.
12:11:11 <wob_jonas> I can't follow which one is the most common really
12:11:29 <wob_jonas> also, maybe this should be changed so you only need one character for an argument, rather than two
12:11:39 <wob_jonas> there's still only 48 outputs so it would be possible
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12:14:47 <int-e> `cat `.'
12:14:48 <HackEgo> cat: `.': No such file or directory
12:18:25 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"C",$ARGV[0];print+($c&1?"H":"h"),"ello",($c&2?"":","),($c&4?" W":" w"),"orld",($c&16?"!":$c&8?".":""),($c&32?"":"\n");'
12:18:29 <HackEgo> No output.
12:18:30 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:18:32 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:18:33 <wob_jonas> `hello A
12:18:34 <HackEgo> Hello, world
12:18:35 <wob_jonas> `hello B
12:18:36 <HackEgo> hello world
12:18:37 <wob_jonas> `hello D
12:18:39 <HackEgo> hello, World
12:18:42 <wob_jonas> `hello H
12:18:42 <HackEgo> hello, world.
12:18:48 <wob_jonas> `hello P
12:18:49 <HackEgo> hello, world!
12:18:55 <wob_jonas> `hello `
12:18:56 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:19:08 <wob_jonas> `hello a
12:19:08 <HackEgo> Hello, world
12:19:18 <wob_jonas> `hello p
12:19:19 <HackEgo> hello, world!
12:19:23 <wob_jonas> `hello q
12:19:24 <HackEgo> Hello, world!
12:19:27 <wob_jonas> that's better
12:21:48 <wob_jonas> ``` e=bin/hello;>$e echo $'#!/usr/bin/perl\n''$c=unpack"C",$ARGV[0];print+($c&1?"H":"h"),"ello",($c&2?"":","),($c&4?" W":" w"),"orld",($c&16?$c&8?",":"!":$c&8?".":""),($c&32?"":"\n");'
12:21:51 <HackEgo> No output.
12:21:52 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:21:53 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:21:54 <wob_jonas> `hello !
12:21:55 <HackEgo> Hello, world
12:21:56 <wob_jonas> `hello b
12:21:57 <HackEgo> hello world
12:22:04 <wob_jonas> `hello h
12:22:05 <HackEgo> hello, world.
12:22:07 <wob_jonas> `hello i
12:22:09 <HackEgo> Hello, world.
12:22:10 <wob_jonas> `hello q
12:22:11 <HackEgo> Hello, world!
12:22:15 <wob_jonas> `hello y
12:22:16 <HackEgo> Hello, world,
12:22:31 <wob_jonas> `hello [
12:22:32 <HackEgo> Hello world,
12:22:39 <wob_jonas> `hello z
12:22:40 <HackEgo> hello world,
12:22:50 <wob_jonas> upper vs lower case tells whether it outputs a newline
12:22:52 <wob_jonas> `hello
12:22:53 <HackEgo> hello, world
12:24:20 <izabera> `` time seq 1000000 > /dev/null; time seq 1 2 1000000 > /dev/null
12:24:24 <HackEgo> real: 0m2.102s, user: 0m2.440s, sys: 0m0.000s \ real: 0m0.495s, user: 0m0.480s, sys: 0m0.000s
12:24:32 <izabera> wat
12:24:40 <izabera> `` time seq 1000000 > /dev/null; time seq 1 2 1000000 > /dev/null
12:24:43 <HackEgo> real: 0m0.993s, user: 0m2.240s, sys: 0m0.000s \ real: 0m0.469s, user: 0m0.460s, sys: 0m0.000s
12:24:56 <izabera> ok it makes no sense to time stuff on hackego
12:25:42 <wob_jonas> izabera: it usually makes no sense to time stuff anywhere. you usually get times for something other than what you wanted to measure.
12:26:11 <izabera> it's usually not nearly as skewed
12:26:34 <wob_jonas> sure, but HackEgo sometimes responds like a minute after your query, so what do you expect?
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12:57:26 <izabera> the awkward moment when github says i have 0.2% c++ in my code and it's all c
12:57:47 <lifthrasiir> impure
12:58:04 <izabera> it's pure c
12:58:14 <lifthrasiir> you are using impure C with C++'s convention, so you are bad
12:58:18 <lifthrasiir> (probably)
12:58:24 <izabera> what conventions? D:
12:58:59 * izabera checks if there's any new or delete in the code... nope
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13:33:06 <wob_jonas> `learn anagol is Anarchy Golf, code golf server at http://golf.shinh.org/
13:33:12 <HackEgo> Learned 'anagol': anagol is Anarchy Golf, code golf server at http://golf.shinh.org/
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14:13:42 <izabera> I JUST INVENTED THE BEST THING EVER
14:13:46 <izabera> #define case break; case
14:14:21 <wob_jonas> izabera: people do that, but give the macro a saner name
14:14:26 <izabera> nooo
14:29:59 <wob_jonas> also, if you do that, you'll be screwed at the default
14:30:32 <izabera> i usually put it first
14:30:37 <alercah> you're weird
14:30:44 <izabera> ok
14:31:18 <izabera> besides, nothing's stopping you from #define default break; default
14:33:09 <wob_jonas> well, technically you can't define either, because the standard doesn't permit you to define keywords, and obviously that's for a good reason, it could break library macros and stuff, but oh who cares
14:33:28 <wob_jonas> also, #define default break; default is worse because then you can no longer declare defaulted member functions
14:33:36 <alercah> You're allowed to if you don't use the stdlib at all, iirc
14:33:44 <alercah> if this is C++ though
14:33:51 <izabera> who needs stdlib anyway
14:33:55 <wob_jonas> alercah: I don't think you're allowed even then
14:33:56 <alercah> just used checked switch
14:33:59 <wob_jonas> the standard just forbids it
14:34:09 <wob_jonas> nah, just use if-goto
14:34:21 <wob_jonas> nobody needs switch or while
14:34:39 <alercah> oh, you're right
14:34:46 <wob_jonas> if, for, and goto are the only flow controls real men use
14:34:53 <alercah> you can't #define library names if you use the stdlib, but you can if you don't
14:35:10 <alercah> wob_jonas: who uses for?
14:35:15 <izabera> wob_jonas: no need for for with if+goto
14:36:01 <wob_jonas> alercah: me. for(;foo;) isn't actually longer than while(foo), so why bother learning two different loop control constructs when one is better than the other in all respects
14:36:47 <alercah> wob_jonas: why use loops?
14:37:03 <alercah> if you're encouraging shitty control flow
14:37:06 <wob_jonas> plus, if you only use if, for, goto then you can read the code even without knowing English, because you can recognize the different syntaxes without having to remember what the English keywords are
14:37:08 <alercah> just use if + goto
14:37:08 <izabera> alercah: he's still a padawan
14:37:19 <alercah> and hell, drop if
14:37:25 <alercah> just use GCC's computed labels extension
14:37:26 <wob_jonas> alercah: for(;;) is usually shorter than if-goto
14:37:47 <wob_jonas> yeah... and computed comefrom
14:37:56 <alercah> GCC doesn't have computed comefrom
14:38:05 <wob_jonas> yeah, it's stupid
14:38:07 <wob_jonas> we need those in C
14:38:08 <alercah> wob_jonas: wait, is the objective to use shitty control flow or to golf
14:38:20 <wob_jonas> it's not shitty control flow
14:38:32 <alercah> anything with if-goto is
14:38:32 <wob_jonas> it's to not make the language more complicated for no reason
14:38:51 <wob_jonas> do you, like, use unless in perl? I don't, because if(! is just easier to remember
14:39:07 <alercah> I submit that your argument is inconsistent
14:39:15 <alercah> if switch is complicated "for no reason", so are loops
14:39:19 <int-e> wob_jonas: I've used unless.
14:39:28 <wob_jonas> even when you need a parenthesis, if(!(foo bar)) is shorter than unless(foo bar)
14:39:34 * int-e isn't much of a perl hacker though
14:40:02 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, me too, in those very old codes I have that I'm ashamed to read now. the worst part is where they don't put a space before equals signs for assignment.
14:40:10 <int-e> "unless" gives some insight into the programmer's intent.
14:40:21 <alercah> I also like unless-else
14:40:24 <int-e> potentially, at least.
14:40:36 <alercah> because writing if (!...) { } else { } always feels weird
14:40:47 <wob_jonas> that reminds me to S-Lang, which uses the strange syntax !if instead of unless
14:40:51 <alercah> err.. not always
14:40:52 <int-e> wob_jonas: note, I'd only use the statement form, foo unless bar;
14:40:57 <alercah> but sometimes is less intuitive
14:41:02 <alercah> foo unless bar is very useful
14:41:07 <wob_jonas> ok
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14:51:46 <\oren\> #define brase break; case
14:52:16 <\oren\> #define ul(x) if(!(x))
14:52:34 <\oren\> #define ut(x) while(!(x))
14:52:41 <\oren\> #define wh while
14:53:07 <\oren\> #define ei else if
14:54:59 <\oren\> #define sut struct
14:55:15 <\oren\> #define cz const
14:55:54 <wob_jonas> \oren\: or just see the one and two letter macros in the source code of K
14:55:55 <wob_jonas> no
14:55:58 <wob_jonas> the source code of J
14:56:00 <wob_jonas> mistype
14:56:16 <wob_jonas> I think it has a #define I long or something liek that
14:56:37 <wob_jonas> and something like #define R(x) for(int n=0;n<x;n++)
14:56:44 <wob_jonas> I don't remember the details
14:56:50 <wob_jonas> there are dozens of such macros in it
14:57:05 <wob_jonas> It also has one-letter identifiers, like structure names
14:58:28 <int-e> #define sut struct ---- what.
14:59:07 <wob_jonas> oh, and I think geordi has some short mode where it defines a ton of three-letter macros
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14:59:11 <wob_jonas> for keywords and stuff
14:59:35 <int-e> and in any case these abbreviations are not worth giving my brain's recognition of said keywords for.
14:59:58 <int-e> (also I'd need to customize syntax highlighting and indentation... not worth the effort)
15:00:00 <wob_jonas> yep
15:00:22 <int-e> maybe those make sense as input abbreviations though
15:00:32 <alercah> why's geordi not in here
15:00:53 <int-e> who is geordi and why would they be here
15:01:24 <alercah> C++ execution bot
15:01:26 <wob_jonas> int-e: C++ evaluator bot
15:01:37 <wob_jonas> on #geordi , topic there gives url with info
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15:01:53 <nortti> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiG1stRg8BM
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15:13:26 <fizzie> wob_jonas: You *are* allowed to define macros identical to keywords if you don't include any standard headers.
15:13:29 <fizzie> wob_jonas: The only place that prohibits it is in C11 7.1.2p4, and it just says: "The program shall not have any macros with names lexically identical to keywords currently defined prior to the inclusion of the header or when any macro defined in the header is expanded."
15:13:50 <wob_jonas> fizzie: oh? I see
15:13:56 <wob_jonas> ok
15:14:41 <fizzie> Unfortunately macros can't expand to preprocessing directives -- otherwise you could #define switch to #define case, and #define hctiws to be } + #undef of case.
15:15:16 <fizzie> Maybe "unfortunately" isn't quite the right word.
15:16:03 <int-e> and there have been IOCCC entries that have to be preprocessed twice
15:16:06 <wob_jonas> Well, even with the current rules, people manage to use the preprocessor in very surprising games. It's sort of like an esoteric language really.
15:16:17 <int-e> (and, perhaps, even more often than that)
15:16:52 <int-e> yes, conditional #include is bad enough
15:17:56 <wob_jonas> and indirect includes, and token concatenation together with macros with arguments, especially vararg arguments, and macros that can expand to unbalanced parenthesis or commas
15:25:45 <fizzie> https://github.com/rofl0r/order-pp
15:25:53 <fizzie> (A relatively little-known gem.)
15:26:22 <fizzie> (Mostly see the 'example' directory.)
15:26:25 <wob_jonas> fizzie: I see
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17:21:15 <\oren\> fizzie: macros can however, expand to virtual template functions
17:22:00 <\oren\> and this is apparently something not forbidden by our coding standards
17:23:12 <\oren\> * virtual *variadic* template functions
17:23:42 <wob_jonas> well, there are a lot of things that aren't explicitly forbidden by our coding standards...
17:23:48 <wob_jonas> but that doesn't make them a good idea
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19:23:35 <shachaf> copumpkin: hmpumpkin
19:25:32 <shachaf> twitterpumpkin
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23:22:31 <wob_jonas> The Ebay website's Paypal payment dialog rounds numbers so that the extra precision doesn't distract you. It shows you the easily readable "Exchange rate: 1.00 HUF = GBP 0.00", instead of the confusing "1 HUF = 0.00256178 GBP" which has way too many digits to be useful.
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23:22:50 <wob_jonas> These people know how to design streamlined user interfaces.
23:23:27 <myname> so,you can get anything for free? that's nice
23:23:47 <wob_jonas> myname: no, the opposite. I have to pay infinite HUF to cover the price in GBP, no matter what that price is
23:24:31 <myname> pay in gbp hth
23:25:03 <int-e> @metar lowi
23:25:04 <lambdabot> LOWI 242150Z AUTO 27003KT 9999 -RA FEW005 BKN048 18/17 Q1021
23:25:20 <int-e> so humid :/
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23:26:57 <wob_jonas> myname: the rounding is for display only, it does actually use the correct rate 1 HUF = 0.002562 for computing the amount deducted
23:27:14 <myname> too bad
23:27:32 <wob_jonas> no, it's not too bad. I couldn't afford infinite HUF for this.
23:29:39 <int-e> you could try to sell something for a penny first
23:30:05 <wob_jonas> int-e: the currency buy rate and sale rate are different
23:30:12 <wob_jonas> but good idea
23:30:35 <wob_jonas> although the problem is, if the buyer wants a refund, I won't be able to afford to pay back the penny
23:31:28 <wob_jonas> not even if they payed me the penny first and I got 4 HUF for it or something
23:38:25 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
23:38:25 <lambdabot> EGLL 242220Z 22007KT 4000 -DZ OVC006 19/18 Q1018 BECMG 9999 BKN014
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00:28:58 <oerjan> <int-e> wob_jonas: what's the cheapest way for perl to invoke an external program and print its output? <-- doesn't anagol make most PLs run without execve permissions?
00:29:24 <int-e> oerjan: most, but the hello world one is an exception
00:29:30 <oerjan> ah.
00:29:52 * int-e looks at the timestamp
00:29:54 <int-e> good night.
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01:57:08 <hppavilion[1]> `? weapons
01:57:18 <HackEgo> weapons? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:57:31 <hppavilion[1]> `cat shr/weapons
01:57:32 <HackEgo> cat: shr/weapons: No such file or directory
01:57:36 <hppavilion[1]> `cat shar/weapons
01:57:37 <HackEgo> cat: shar/weapons: No such file or directory
01:57:39 <hppavilion[1]> `cat share/weapons
01:57:40 <HackEgo> cat: share/weapons: No such file or directory
01:57:44 <hppavilion[1]> `ls
01:57:46 <HackEgo> ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
01:57:54 <hppavilion[1]> `ls share/
01:57:54 <HackEgo> 8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ candide \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ headers \ headers.gch \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ mtg \ nothp \ recipe \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ tanebgrep \ UnicodeData.txt \ units.dat \ usercmds \ WordData
01:59:12 <hppavilion[1]> `ls tmp
01:59:13 <HackEgo> args \ foo \ fruit \ sh \ spline \ spout \ tempcmd \ testcmd \ tmp_jonas
01:59:47 <hppavilion[1]> moon-moon: Where's weapons again?
01:59:56 <myname> `cat share/tanebgrep
01:59:56 <HackEgo> wisdom/automatic squirrel feeder:Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. \ wisdom/bbc:The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. \ wisdom/bdsm:BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did
02:00:02 <oerjan> `ls src
02:00:02 <HackEgo> 99.sh \ bf \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ ciol.c \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ maze.c \ orenbow.c \ pikhqbow.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm
02:00:12 <oerjan> `` ls src/w*
02:00:14 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access src/w*: No such file or directory
02:00:25 <oerjan> `` ls junk
02:00:26 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access junk: No such file or directory
02:00:38 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: it may have been deleted
02:00:42 <hppavilion[1]> :/
02:00:46 <hppavilion[1]> I need a snail cannon
02:00:47 <oerjan> `culprits share/weapons
02:00:54 <HackEgo> No output.
02:01:04 <oerjan> `ls tmflry
02:01:05 <HackEgo> ​@ \ brainfuck \ c++ \ C++ \ cat \ esolang \ esolangs \ #esoteric \ fs \ hth \ mapole \ `mislearn \ mycology \ ntitai \ random number \ tdnh \ the meaning of life \ tomfoolery \ wiki \ wisdom
02:01:27 <oerjan> `` find -name '*weap*'
02:01:46 <HackEgo> No output.
02:01:52 <oerjan> `` find -name '*weap*'; echo nope
02:01:56 <HackEgo> nope
02:02:00 <oerjan> OKAY
02:02:07 <oerjan> perhaps it never existed hth
02:03:47 <oerjan> hm
02:03:51 <oerjan> `ls emoticons
02:03:53 <HackEgo> cat \ :-D \ drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ swatter \ useless
02:04:13 <oerjan> not there either
02:05:09 <oerjan> `` find -name '*sna*'
02:05:13 <HackEgo> ​./bin/snackego \ ./bin/botsnack \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/botsnack.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/buttsnack.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/snackego.i \ ./.hg/store/data/perl-5.22.2/_porting/make__snapshot.pl.i \ ./.hg/store/data/ply-3.8/example/_garden_snake \ ./.hg/store/data/ply-3.8/example/_garden_snake/_garden_snake.py.i \ ./.hg/store/data/wisdom/snap.i \
02:05:21 <oerjan> eww
02:05:30 <oerjan> `` find -name '*snai*'
02:05:34 <HackEgo> No output.
02:05:43 <oerjan> hm it does indeed search .hg
02:05:55 <oerjan> so that means it should even find trace of deleted files.
02:06:11 <oerjan> `buttsnack
02:06:11 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: buttsnack: not found
02:06:40 <oerjan> unless it was in tmp/
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02:10:00 <fizzie> `? userweps
02:10:01 <HackEgo> boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus
02:10:02 <fizzie> hth
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02:10:25 <fizzie> (Thanks for the "snai" tip, I wouldn't've found it otherwise.)
02:11:15 <oerjan> ooh
02:11:27 <oerjan> `` find -name '*wep*'
02:11:32 <HackEgo> ​./.hg/store/data/bin/userweps.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/addwep.i \ ./.hg/store/data/jnk/userweps.i \ ./.hg/store/data/wisdom/userweps.i \ ./wisdom/userweps
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02:11:48 <oerjan> `` find -name '*weps*'
02:11:51 <HackEgo> ​./.hg/store/data/bin/userweps.i \ ./.hg/store/data/jnk/userweps.i \ ./.hg/store/data/wisdom/userweps.i \ ./wisdom/userweps
02:12:07 <oerjan> `hoag bin/addwep
02:12:09 <fizzie> It's been in bin, it's been in jnk, it's now in wisdom.
02:12:14 <HackEgo> ​<shachaf> ` rm bin/addwep \ <oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <FreeFull> echo -e \'#!/bin/sh\\necho "$2" > "wisdom/$1"\' > bin/addwep; chmod +x bin/addwep \ <FreeFull> echo -e \'#!/bin/sh\\necho "$2" > "$1"\' > bin/addwep; chmod +x bin/addwep
02:12:18 <oerjan> oh jnk
02:12:25 <oerjan> `ls jnk
02:12:27 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access jnk: No such file or directory
02:13:06 <oerjan> fizzie: however i also recall some unicode, which is not in the wisdom.
02:13:15 <FreeFull> I have no idea what this addwep thing was
02:13:19 <FreeFull> Or what I was doing with it
02:14:01 <fizzie> oerjan: Do you mean the Unicode for the swatter?
02:14:08 <oerjan> fizzie: no, the snail cannon
02:14:15 <fizzie> Hmm.
02:14:19 <fizzie> I must've missed it.
02:14:27 <FreeFull> `? botsnack
02:14:28 <HackEgo> botsnack? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:14:31 <FreeFull> `botsnack
02:14:32 <HackEgo> ​>:-D
02:14:45 <FreeFull> `snackego
02:14:47 <HackEgo> ​:)
02:14:51 <oerjan> oh hppavilion left
02:15:40 <oerjan> possibly it wasn't in HackEgo anyway
02:16:33 <fizzie> 0==🐌, but I can only find it in comments.
02:21:27 <oerjan> that it was.
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06:23:18 <\oren\> Now, time to convert the new version of my font and see if Arabic works now
06:31:42 <lifthrasiir> did you work through Arabic? sweet!
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07:02:47 <\oren\> fontforge is still chugging along converting my font
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07:18:42 <\oren\> My font is now over a megabyte in size
07:21:46 <\oren\> and arabic shaping appears to be working!
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07:26:07 <lifthrasiir> \oren\: is it sufficient to have four glyphs per each character?
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07:34:08 <\oren\> apparently, the forms plus the main character also has to be defined
07:34:25 <\oren\> I put a copy of the isolated form in that slot
07:36:18 <\oren\> so for some letters you need five, for some only three (because some of the letters don't have all separate forms)
07:38:20 <\oren\> I aslo added some more chinese characters
07:38:24 <\oren\> 戒戚戯戴戻房扇扉払扱把抑
07:38:24 <\oren\> 抗抜択披抱抵抹押抽拉拍拐拒拓拘拙拠括拶拷
07:38:24 <\oren\> 挑挟挨挫振挿捉捕捗捜据捻掃掌排掛控措掲描
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07:39:06 <PinealGlandOptic> hi everyone! are there "adaptive data structures", i.e., which can change from array to linked-list or to binary tree depending on access patterns to it?
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08:21:21 <zzo38> I wrote a Universal Hint viewer that can be use with Linux do you think it is useful for you?
08:22:47 <shachaf> zzo38: As in UHS?
08:22:51 <zzo38> Yes
08:23:15 <shachaf> It might be.
08:23:58 <zzo38> Pictures and sounds and incentives are not implemented, but it does implement links and nested hints.
08:24:49 <zzo38> http://sprunge.us/IQZB
08:26:58 <zzo38> I may add new features later on, and possibly also additional programs for doing print-out and for compiling a hint file (I don't know how the checksum is calculated, although as far as I know, all of the open-source UHS viewers don't care, so it shouldn't be that important to implement).
08:29:57 <zzo38> You can tell me if you have stuff to add, either contributed code or suggestions.
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08:34:36 <zzo38> I reverse-engineered the 91a stuff myself; the 95a stuff I found information from other sources.
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09:02:51 <hppavilion[1]> I'm reading about Helter Skelter
09:03:03 <hppavilion[1]> And... wow, this is unbelievably bullshitual
09:15:47 <shachaf> zzo38: I haven't used UHS in years.
09:16:00 <shachaf> Don't they have a JavaScript version?
09:16:36 <zzo38> I wrote my own JavaScript version; as far as I know their version is only DOS, Windows, Macintosh, and Amiga.
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09:20:19 <zzo38> And the program to write the hint file is only for Windows, they say; also to compile into a usable file is apparently you have to send the file to them.
09:21:26 <shachaf> But the website supports JavaScript viewing.
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09:23:27 <zzo38> Maybe it does, but that is not a standalone program anyways.
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10:06:38 <fizzie> I wrote an UHS-to-XML thing in Perl once, too.
10:07:51 <shachaf> Remember the days of UHS?
10:10:25 <zzo38> I think it is good idea, although 95a adds some junk such as it doesn't seem such good idea for them to use a different format for the text of nested hints than normal hints, or to have text in the binary area, which uses another different format; what is that? The 91a format makes sense though.
10:14:38 <almightynsx> Question. will anyone be in regards to help me?
10:16:12 <zzo38> To help you with what?
10:18:15 <almightynsx> (2:16:33 AM) almightynsx: Im looking to index the internet. any ideas how i can somewhat do that for myself?
10:18:15 <almightynsx> (2:17:16 AM) almightynsx: the most I have found ia alexa.com wikipedia:portals and glossaries
10:18:15 <almightynsx> (2:17:36 AM) almightynsx: I need more ideas on how i can idex the internet for myself, opinions anyone?
10:18:15 <almightynsx> (2:17:44 AM) almightynsx: index*
10:18:33 <almightynsx> portals*
10:19:15 <almightynsx> I just copied and pasted. let mr ask this way
10:19:58 <almightynsx> Is there any way I can methodologically index the internet for mysefl?
10:20:06 <zzo38> The internet cannot really be fully indexed
10:20:17 <almightynsx> of sourse
10:20:21 <almightynsx> course*
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10:20:41 <almightynsx> but maybe I can index it myself just on an overview or what there is on the internet
10:20:49 <gamemanj> zzo38: gopher
10:21:25 <int-e> "Link Everything Online"... oh the memories.
10:21:29 <zzo38> You can index gopher and whatever internet services you want, but it cannot be fully index by anyone
10:21:30 <int-e> ...oh the foolishness!
10:21:52 <gamemanj> zzo38: oh, apparently Brainfuck As A Service is still running. I forgot it even still existed...
10:21:55 <almightynsx> what is gopher?
10:22:03 <zzo38> An internet protocol
10:22:14 <almightynsx> can you send me some links
10:22:22 <zzo38> gopher://zzo38computer.org/
10:22:31 <zzo38> That is one gopher service
10:22:50 <gamemanj> gopher://gamemanj.duckdns.org (not much, has two outbound links though)
10:23:36 <gamemanj> gopher://gopher.floodgap.com is one of the "relatively within context 'major'" sites
10:23:38 <int-e> damn I forgot about archie
10:24:32 <almightynsx> i tried to access the link but no go. can you explain what this is.
10:24:34 <int-e> And I think I never knew Veronica... I wonder why.
10:25:16 <zzo38> I wrote some gopher clients such as http://zzo38computer.org/prog/shegoc.zip
10:25:17 <int-e> almightynsx: you asked for gopher links, and you got some gopher links back. it's humorous, and a bit condescending. hth.
10:25:52 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) may be more to your liking.
10:27:35 <almightynsx> if i read up on that will that answer my question?
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10:28:07 <int-e> Yes, this one: "<almightynsx> what is gopher?"
10:30:51 <int-e> I'm not sure we're the right people for your original question; on one level it's easy (download pages, follow all links, respect robots.txt) otoh it's really hard (the internet is big and it's a moving target, and most of the stuff on it is highly irrelevant). Also the amount of data involved is quite big.
10:31:15 <almightynsx> this makes me laugh typing it but it looks like people have already tried this idea
10:31:35 <int-e> Really.
10:31:40 <almightynsx> wait
10:31:51 <int-e> Sorry, I've never heard of Google before. Please explain!
10:32:27 <almightynsx> the way i have index'd the internet is different than the idea you are all aluring to
10:32:28 <int-e> Nor Altavista, Yahoo, Bing, Duckdockgo, ... I'm forgetting a few.
10:33:10 <int-e> You can also enumerate IPv4 addresses... that option will become infeasible when IPv6 was adopted 10 years ago.
10:33:17 <almightynsx> i have searched google and wiki and made a hand written list of the sites and categorized them into workds
10:33:40 <almightynsx> words*
10:33:40 <int-e> Oh you're reinventing directory services.
10:34:05 <almightynsx> i think that sounds right
10:34:07 <int-e> This has been tried. Yahoo started out as a directory service. Search engines won.
10:34:16 <hkgit03> gamemanj: oh, apparently Brainfuck As A Service is still running. I forgot it even still existed... <- Can you link that, pls.
10:34:22 <almightynsx> im not looking to make money
10:34:29 <almightynsx> just for research purposes
10:35:06 <izabera> this changes everything
10:35:17 <gamemanj> hkgit03: it's a little subservice of gopher://gamemanj.duckdns.org/ that I kind of forgot about. Don't try accessing it with certain heavily-caching gopher clients (ELinks, etc.)
10:36:12 <hkgit03> thx
10:36:39 <gamemanj> uh, it seems the floodgap proxy is ignoring "i" chars???
10:37:11 <almightynsx> can someone explain in detail and lamen terms what you are all talking about?
10:37:39 <almightynsx> im not as educated on the internet as you all seem to be
10:38:43 <int-e> what... bash: lynx: command not found ... how have I survived this long?
10:38:44 <almightynsx> ok maybe if i link you to the website and idea i would like to create then maybe you guys might understand what i want to do
10:39:00 <izabera> int-e: it's 2016
10:39:04 <almightynsx> http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category
10:39:13 <gamemanj> oh, I see what's going on with the floodgap proxy, it seems they expect "i" entries to have supplemental data
10:39:46 <gamemanj> for floodgap sites it's "i<text>\t\terror.host\t1\r\n"
10:39:59 <int-e> izabera: it's my gopher client of choice... because it's readily available on all distributions
10:40:00 <zzo38> Yes, it seems some clients do, even though such supplemental data is not relevant.
10:40:09 <izabera> int-e: still, 2016
10:40:25 <zzo38> My own gopher clients don't care about any extra data for "i" entries and will ignore them.
10:40:28 <int-e> izabera: I'm not disputing your factual statement.
10:40:47 <gamemanj> well, looks like I'm going to have to "embrace compatibility" via "fixing" my server
10:41:09 <gamemanj> huh, someone started a BrainfuckVM process on the server? well, so much for maintenance downtime
10:41:35 <izabera> yeah now you have to guarantee 99.9999999% uptime
10:41:40 <izabera> you're screwed
10:41:55 <gamemanj> or I could just killJob since there's no permission controls whatsoever
10:42:11 <gamemanj> the job ended without having outputted anything anyway
10:42:12 <izabera> i killjobbed
10:42:17 <izabera> it was me
10:42:31 <izabera> i'm disappointed by your attitude towards your users
10:42:41 <gamemanj> ...well, true, but it's kind of a tradeoff
10:42:49 <gamemanj> anyway, I was talking about job 4
10:42:50 <izabera> i'll use a different brainfuck as a service over gopher provider next time
10:42:51 <gamemanj> not job 5
10:42:54 <izabera> oh
10:43:04 <int-e> job 5 is mine
10:43:21 <gamemanj> somehow nobody has done the inevitable "kill job 1"
10:43:33 <zzo38> You should just execute the program locally
10:44:29 <int-e> is there a limit on the length of gopher query strings...
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10:44:41 <gamemanj> No theoretical limit as to what my server will accept
10:44:57 <gamemanj> but if you have issues due to your client, you may have to write an upload script
10:45:03 <gamemanj> it's not too difficult to do since this is Gopher
10:46:04 <gamemanj> basically you can upload any text that does not contain '\r' or '\n' AFAIK, but I'll double-check the server source
10:46:36 <int-e> hmm, 11451 characters are too much... but perhaps that's lynx' fault.
10:46:57 <gamemanj> yeah, I ended up writing an uploader script at one point to test if the VM could handle "The Lost Kingdom"
10:47:00 <zzo38> My own server does have a limit of 1023
10:47:04 <almightynsx> you guys must be old if your offering me gopher protocal advise
10:47:19 <almightynsx> what other means are there to indexing the internet
10:47:24 <izabera> none
10:47:25 <gamemanj> Actually the Gopher protocool and HTTP are older than me, so...
10:47:27 <izabera> gopher is mandatory
10:47:31 <gamemanj> *protocol
10:47:39 <zzo38> That is just an implementation detail though; the limit could be increased if needed, but I don't need to.
10:47:48 <int-e> almightynsx: crawlers and hard manual labor.
10:48:27 <gamemanj> oh, apparently I wrote a test VM implementation called "IncVM", which just takes every char given as code and writes it out + 1...
10:48:46 <gamemanj> I think that won't be being exposed as a computing service anytime soon
10:49:15 <almightynsx> int.. what do you think hard work and crawlers would get me in a final result?
10:54:02 <gamemanj> Executive job 6 seems to be dead with no output.
10:54:27 <gamemanj> Just figured I should notify.
10:54:40 <int-e> gamemanj: That's to be expected.
10:55:21 <b_jonas> "<almightynsx> i have searched google and wiki and made a hand written list of the sites and categorized them into workds", "<int-e> Oh you're reinventing directory services." => I'm calling that a bookmark list, but yeah. and mine is in a very unmaintained state. I should fix it properly, a lot of links I need are missing.
10:56:49 <gamemanj> you know, it really bugs me that Java string encoding functions throw CharsetNotFoundExceptions, but the charset-less versions are deprecated
10:57:12 <gamemanj> oh, actually "UnsupportedEncodingException"
11:00:37 <int-e> hmm, what am I missing about thi protocol.
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11:04:25 <b_jonas> `learn The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem
11:04:30 <HackEgo> Learned 'hydra': The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https
11:04:36 <b_jonas> `? hydra
11:04:42 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.o
11:04:54 <int-e> oh a tab...
11:04:58 <b_jonas> too long
11:05:00 <b_jonas> argh
11:05:59 <int-e> okay, that did it.
11:06:33 <b_jonas> ``` sed 's>https://en.wikipedia.o.*>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem >' wisdom/hydra
11:06:36 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.o
11:06:41 <int-e> almightynsx: I would expect frustration at the end of that road, but it really depends on you.
11:06:50 <b_jonas> ``` sed 's>https://en\.wikipedia.*>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem >' wisdom/hydra
11:06:51 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.o
11:06:59 <b_jonas> ``` sed 's>https://en\.wikipedia.*>zzz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem >' wisdom/hydra
11:07:00 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ zzz https://en.wikiped
11:07:05 <b_jonas> ``` sed -i 's>https://en\.wikipedia.*>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem >' wisdom/hydra
11:07:10 <HackEgo> No output.
11:07:13 <b_jonas> `? hydra
11:07:15 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.o
11:07:34 <int-e> spammer
11:07:51 <b_jonas> ``` perl -e 'local$/;$_=<>;print substr $_,250' wisdom/hydra
11:07:52 <int-e> (each of these responses takes up 6 lines here)
11:07:52 <HackEgo> 534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem
11:08:07 <b_jonas> int-e: when I do that in private, you all complain that I should do them on channel because they're write operations
11:08:24 <int-e> you could just show the final result.
11:08:26 * int-e shrugs
11:08:44 <b_jonas> yes
11:08:49 <b_jonas> that could work
11:09:07 <b_jonas> not very atomic though
11:10:19 <int-e> gamemanj: the "Refresh" link in the executive is missing the ?nnn hack.
11:10:30 <gamemanj> Ah, really?
11:10:37 <gamemanj> that explains a lot...
11:11:45 <int-e> and the console seems to break lines after 127 characters... a bit inconvenient for the mandelbrot with 128 character lines ;-)
11:11:50 <int-e> (feel free to kill that job)
11:14:21 <gamemanj> 127 characters? let me check something
11:14:40 <gamemanj> well, it's not being done in the midlayer
11:14:57 <gamemanj> oh
11:15:01 <gamemanj> wait, I see it
11:15:06 <gamemanj> if (newVal.length() > 128) {
11:15:32 <b_jonas> [ ping
11:15:32 <j-bot> b_jonas: |value error: ping
11:16:27 <gamemanj> but that should only trigger for lines that are longer than 128 chars
11:16:32 <gamemanj> (not including newline)
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11:16:54 <b_jonas> [ (agr =: [:{&' .'':' _2:#.&.|:\ 0&=) 2<| (+*:)^:10~ (0.1*i._10)j.~/(0.5-0.1*i.25)
11:16:55 <j-bot> b_jonas: .:.
11:16:55 <j-bot> b_jonas: ....:::....
11:16:55 <j-bot> b_jonas: ::::::::::
11:16:55 <j-bot> b_jonas: ::::::::::::..:::
11:16:55 <j-bot> b_jonas: ::::::::::::::::::.....
11:17:06 <b_jonas> [ agr 2<| (+*:)^:10~ (0.1*>:i.10)j.~/(0.5-0.1*i.25)
11:17:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: .::::::::::::::::''
11:17:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: '::::::::::' '''
11:17:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: .::::::::::
11:17:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: :::
11:17:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: .'
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11:17:17 <b_jonas> which mandelbrot? not this mandelbrot probably
11:17:37 <gamemanj> I'll just bump it up to 192. If I receive further complaints about console size, I'll just lock it at 80. (The point of the console size limit is to prevent infinite memory usage via console)
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11:19:31 <almightynsx> more on this subject of reinventing directory services??
11:20:47 <gamemanj> Ok, I intend to throw the switch on the GopherServ reboot soon
11:21:35 <gamemanj> but I can't actually backup jobs, it's all in RAM, so basically when the server goes down the jobs do.
11:22:02 <gamemanj> Could the owners of jobs 5 and 9 please report when they're done?
11:26:00 <int-e> gamemanj: they're not done (one is a cat, one is a still running mandelbrot) but I'm not particularly attached to their continued existence
11:27:17 <gamemanj> Ok, update complete.
11:28:08 <gamemanj> Brainfuck as a service is now compatible with the floodgap client, the Refresh antianticache bug has been fixed,
11:29:02 <gamemanj> ...not much more to say, really
11:29:27 <int-e> i error.host 1
11:29:56 <gamemanj> "compatible with the floodgap client"
11:30:12 <hkgit03> you mean the floodgap gopher proxy?
11:30:13 <int-e> but it did start the program nonetheless
11:30:19 <gamemanj> hkgit03: yes
11:33:09 <gamemanj> executive job 2 is taking a while
11:33:38 <gamemanj> CPU on the server is fluctuating between 25 and 75 percent
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11:34:18 <gamemanj> ...of which Java is taking up 5%?
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11:36:36 <gamemanj> also, since the VM now uses the first line of the console as a program name, your mandelbrot is called "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDEGFFEEEEDDDDDDCCCCCCCCCBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB"
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11:38:53 <boily> gAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmellomanj!
11:39:25 <hkgit03> nice name
11:39:45 <boily> hellokgit03.
11:39:50 <hkgit03> hello
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11:49:25 <int-e> gamemanj: obviously if CPU usage turns out to be a problem feel free to kill the job. I won't submit it again.
11:49:56 <gamemanj> no, it's not
11:49:57 <int-e> it looks like it'll be running for a few hours.
11:50:27 <gamemanj> as long as you don't submit, like, 20 copies of it all running at the same time,
11:50:28 <gamemanj> it'll be fine
11:50:44 <gamemanj> since right now it's only managing 5% usage
11:54:03 <FreeFull> Do we have a bot here that speaks lisp?
11:54:11 <FreeFull> Or scheme
11:54:35 <b_jonas> FreeFull: we can install something on HackEgo if necessary
11:54:37 <int-e> fungot: are you a scheming bot?
11:54:38 <fungot> int-e: so whats this place all about then?
11:54:54 <int-e> `gcl
11:55:01 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gcl: not found
11:55:13 <FreeFull> `racket
11:55:14 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: racket: not found
11:55:19 <b_jonas> FreeFull: and I have an interpreter for a very tiny lisp-like language in like 30 lines that I've uploaded to jevalbot a few times, but that's like tiny
11:55:22 <b_jonas> `guile
11:55:24 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: guile: not found
11:55:28 <FreeFull> `clisp
11:55:30 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: clisp: not found
11:55:41 <b_jonas> `gprolog
11:55:42 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gprolog: not found
11:55:43 <b_jonas> `mzscheme
11:55:46 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mzscheme: not found
11:55:49 <b_jonas> `bigloo
11:55:50 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bigloo: not found
11:55:52 <FreeFull> `swipl
11:55:53 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swipl: not found
11:56:14 <FreeFull> `Picat
11:56:15 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Picat: not found
12:00:59 <b_jonas> FreeFull: you'll probably have to install something
12:01:11 <b_jonas> although wait
12:01:21 <b_jonas> FreeFull: I think there's something on some other channels
12:01:25 <b_jonas> like #scheme or something
12:01:31 <b_jonas> does it have to be on #esoteric?
12:01:51 * FreeFull shrugs
12:02:21 <b_jonas> FreeFull: ask the #scheme people, maybe they can help
12:02:47 <b_jonas> do you count tcl as a lisp? :-)
12:03:45 <b_jonas> `tclsh
12:03:48 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tclsh: not found
12:03:58 <boily> `` ls /bin/*
12:04:02 <HackEgo> ​/bin/bash \ /bin/bunzip2 \ /bin/bzcat \ /bin/bzcmp \ /bin/bzdiff \ /bin/bzegrep \ /bin/bzexe \ /bin/bzfgrep \ /bin/bzgrep \ /bin/bzip2 \ /bin/bzip2recover \ /bin/bzless \ /bin/bzmore \ /bin/cat \ /bin/chgrp \ /bin/chmod \ /bin/chown \ /bin/cp \ /bin/cpio \ /bin/dash \ /bin/date \ /bin/dd \ /bin/df \ /bin/dir \ /bin/dmesg \ /bin/dnsdomainname \ /
12:04:09 <boily> `` ls /usr/bin/*
12:04:13 <HackEgo> ​/usr/bin/[ \ /usr/bin/2to3 \ /usr/bin/2to3-2.6 \ /usr/bin/2to3-2.7 \ /usr/bin/a2p \ /usr/bin/addpart \ /usr/bin/addr2line \ /usr/bin/aot-compile \ /usr/bin/appletviewer \ /usr/bin/apropos \ /usr/bin/apt-cache \ /usr/bin/apt-cdrom \ /usr/bin/apt-config \ /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates \ /usr/bin/apt-ftparchive \ /usr/bin/apt-get \ /usr/bin/aptitud
12:04:33 <boily> `apt --version
12:04:34 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: apt: not found
12:04:40 <b_jonas> ``` echo $PATH
12:04:42 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
12:04:44 <boily> `` apt --version
12:04:45 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: apt: command not found
12:04:49 <boily> `` apt-get --version
12:04:52 <HackEgo> apt 0.9.7.9 for amd64 compiled on Nov 16 2013 12:41:41 \ Supported modules: \ *Ver: Standard .deb \ *Pkg: Debian dpkg interface (Priority 10) \ Pkg: Debian APT solver interface (Priority -1000) \ S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary tree \ S.L: 'deb-src' Standard Debian source tree \ Idx: Debian Source Index \ Idx: Debian Package Index \ Idx:
12:04:59 <b_jonas> boily: we can download stuff directly from the web, even binaries
12:05:12 <boily> `` apt-get install fortune-mod
12:05:15 <HackEgo> W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
12:05:20 <boily> beuh.
12:05:48 <boily> b_jellonas!
12:08:12 <FreeFull> b_jonas: No, I wouldn't count tcl as a lisp =P
12:08:22 <FreeFull> `` ls bin
12:08:26 <HackEgo> ​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \ \ \ \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienven
12:08:50 <FreeFull> `` bienvenido
12:08:52 <HackEgo> ​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
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12:34:08 * hkgit03 looks at the mandelbrot file. gamemanj: So, the program's still running?
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12:38:30 <hkgit03> *refresh* Well, apparently.
12:38:51 <hkgit03> gamemanj: Can jobs be deleted and if so, only by you?
12:39:53 <int-e> hkgit03: it's running this program btw: http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/utils/mandelbrot/mandelbrot.b
12:40:03 <hkgit03> thx
12:40:17 <int-e> hkgit03: there's an "options" link that can kill a job... works for everyone
12:40:39 <int-e> ... well I should say "options submenu"
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12:41:24 <hkgit03> Done.
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12:41:33 <hkgit03> (with mine, of course)
12:41:43 * hkgit03 has no job anymore
12:52:30 <gamemanj> anybody can kill or interfere with anybody else's job
12:52:55 <gamemanj> you people do whatever, I'll be busy laying down in the nice cold weather out
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14:33:31 <int-e> @metar lowi
14:33:32 <lambdabot> LOWI 251320Z 02006KT 330V050 9999 FEW030 SCT050 BKN100 25/17 Q1019 NOSIG
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15:12:10 <izabera> how do i get the mountpoint of a file?
15:15:23 <b_jonas> izabera: oh, that one is tricky. df filename usually tells.
15:15:36 <izabera> in c <.<
15:15:47 <izabera> `` stat -c %m bin
15:15:51 <b_jonas> izabera: what OS
15:15:54 <izabera> linux
15:16:06 <HackEgo> stat: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ /hackenv
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15:16:18 <izabera> `` ls
15:16:23 <HackEgo> ​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
15:16:34 <b_jonas> I'm not sure then, check what df does maybe.
15:16:37 <izabera> stat: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory <- UHM
15:16:50 <b_jonas> It's a bit hard to do this reliably, finding out about mount points is all sorts of fragile.
15:18:34 <b_jonas> Basically, you can try to iterate upwards through directories for which one is a mount point, for which there are multiple crazy heuristics (see http://blog.schmorp.de/2016-03-03-detecting-a-mount-point.html , the traditional heuristic is checking the st_dev field of stat, but that might not be the best), or try to get info about mount points from /proc/mounts or from /etc/mtab
15:18:45 <b_jonas> \ or try to get info about mount points from /proc/mounts or from /etc/mtab
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15:18:52 <b_jonas> but none of this is completely reliable
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15:42:25 <miketo> izabera: sysfs? read /sys/<your PID>/mounts for your view of the filesystem
15:43:19 <int-e> `` cat /proc/self/mounts
15:43:24 <HackEgo> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 \ none /bin hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/ 0 0 \ none /usr hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/ 0 0 \ none /dev hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/ 0 0 \ none /opt hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/ 0 0 \ none /lib hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/ 0 0 \ none /sbin hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/ 0 0 \ none /lib64 hostfs ro,nosuid,relati
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15:46:40 <miketo> lol yes, procfs. thinko
15:47:33 <izabera> why is there a /proc/mounts and a /proc/self/mounts ?
15:47:49 <gamemanj> presumably mount namespaces
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15:48:03 <izabera> ah i see
15:48:07 <izabera> thanks
15:48:26 <izabera> no lol
15:48:44 <izabera> `` ls -l /proc/mounts
15:48:46 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 11 Jul 25 14:48 /proc/mounts -> self/mounts
15:49:19 <gamemanj> thing is once mount namespaces came along there wasn't really such a thing as a system-wide mounts table AFAIK...
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16:46:06 <izabera> lucky start http://i.imgur.com/EmrKrNn.png
16:47:50 <gamemanj> finally, izabera has defeated the awful horror
16:48:34 <gamemanj> ...and is also using... what window manager is that? Why is the window manager grinning? AAAAAAAA<gamemanj has been destroyed by the window manager basilisk>
16:48:51 <gamemanj> (in all seriousness, though, nice window manager)
16:49:11 <izabera> grinning?
16:49:31 <gamemanj> Why couldn't a window manager grin?
16:49:51 <gamemanj> If a build environment can hold a spatula, why can't a window manager grin?
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16:57:57 <\oren\> gamemanj: looks like the "awesome" wm
16:58:09 <izabera> it's not
16:58:22 <\oren\> oh oh it's dwm
16:58:26 <izabera> no
16:58:37 <izabera> really all it's visible in that screen is firefox and a top bar that's not tied to any particular wm
16:58:39 <izabera> and it's bspwm
16:58:42 <\oren\> well it BASED on one of those for sure
17:00:51 <\oren\> izabera: you use a wm that obscure? *oren is in awe*
17:01:06 <izabera> it's not even obscure
17:01:16 <gamemanj> if you want to do a WM right, do it yourself. Then you can get application compatibility problems, which is tons of fun!
17:01:20 <gamemanj> * May not be tons of fun.
17:01:24 <izabera> just about everyone on /r/unixporn uses bspwm
17:01:41 <b_jonas> what's this bspwm?
17:01:50 <gamemanj> also it seems I am now incapable of reading anything
17:01:51 <b_jonas> byteswap wm?
17:01:53 <\oren\> some sort of minimal tiling window manager
17:02:01 <izabera> binary space partition wm
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17:02:08 <b_jonas> tiling... ok, I no longer care then
17:02:10 <\oren\> binary space partitioning window manager
17:02:20 <izabera> https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/1m0ea1/arch_bspwm_why_bspwm_watch_this_screencast_and/
17:04:32 <izabera> and the developer is a dick
17:04:43 <izabera> https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm/blob/master/doc/CHANGELOG.md look at this shit
17:05:05 <gamemanj> then... why use it
17:05:09 <izabera> because it's good
17:05:20 <izabera> but that update broke literally every user conf
17:05:46 <izabera> and by literally i don't mean literally literally but it broke mine and i'm confident it broke many others as well
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17:32:27 <\oren\> izabera: see this is why Linus Torvalds has to be a dick
17:32:43 <\oren\> in order to stop other dicks from breaking things
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17:32:51 <izabera> makes sense
17:33:56 <\oren\> "WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE!" -- Linus Torvalds
17:34:00 <\oren\> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75
17:34:58 <\oren\> "We particularly don't"
17:35:01 <\oren\> break user space with TOTAL CRAP.
17:46:00 <gamemanj> the kernel runs the userspace in virtual memory, so at least in theory there is no possible good reason to ever break userspace
17:47:15 <gamemanj> but... what happens if there is a real bug in the kernel, which gets fixed?
17:47:31 <gamemanj> And then userspace goes kaboom? Then it would be userspace's fault.
17:52:55 <\oren\> gamemanj: yeah, I'm not sure about those cases. probably they would need to wait until the user space programs are fixed. as a user i'd certainly rather developers err on the side of keeping bugs for compatibility. this is even more necessary in closed-source environments...
17:56:56 <int-e> gamemanj: yay the mandelbrot is still going (and will overflow the terminal vertically...
17:57:31 <gamemanj> well, you may want to start backing up the parts of the mandelbrot that are going to go off the top of the screen
17:57:58 <gamemanj> (the reasoning behind this is the same reasoning behind the secret memory limit on your "brainfuck" processes which is completely undocumented.)
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18:29:38 <int-e> heh the mandelbrot is still computing
18:29:56 <int-e> eh
18:30:08 <int-e> sorry, I already brought this up... work is distracting.
18:37:06 <int-e> gamemanj: yeah I don't mind it scrolling away... if I were just interested in the result I'd run the program in a terminal on a PC under my control.
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18:43:06 <gamemanj> what are you interested in, then?
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20:40:43 <fizzie> There's a BSP layout for XMonad, I've been meaning to try it out.
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20:51:46 <wob_jonas> I don't understand these camera manufacturers. Why do they want me to agree to their terms of conditions to read their camera user manual?
20:53:52 <wob_jonas> Meanwhile, from speedrunning marathons, some of the final videos of SGDQ 2016 are up now on https://archive.org/download/SummerGamesDoneQuick2016 , I'll have to watch some of them where the quality of the temp videos was too bad; and also ESA2016 has started, see http://www.esamarathon.com/schedule
20:55:10 <gamemanj> wob_jonas: "by reading this manual you agree to give 25% of all your photography profits - where 'profits' includes money that would be sent to charities and to subsidary, parent or sister companies - to Niko Corp."
20:55:54 <gamemanj> (Not "Nikon". "Niko Corp: Shining a light on the world")
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20:56:15 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: http://www.xkcd.com/501/
20:57:12 <gamemanj> poor, poor, mephistopheles
20:57:22 <gamemanj> what did he/she/it/??? possibly do wrong
20:57:58 <wob_jonas> What did I do wrong? Besides, I don't even have a first born son.
20:59:32 <gamemanj> Hey, what happens if you die alone after selling your "first born son" which never actually gets born?
20:59:52 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: dunno, read the fine print
21:01:55 <gamemanj> In other news, let's talk about a great programming construct, the "goto".
21:02:17 <gamemanj> The "goto" is extremely useful for making code perfectly readable and easy to understand.
21:03:02 <gamemanj> What I suggest as a substitute for a first-born son, should it be impossible for one to occur (and such a being would know), would be for that programmer to be forced to use the "goto" for all loops and unconditional flow control.
21:03:35 <gamemanj> This would be, of course, around about the time where someone is supposed to be typing about a certain - rather dangerous - species of animal.
21:03:37 <wob_jonas> yes, I like goto, and don't understand why some languages are missing it, especially languages where it would be easy to implement, such as rust, ruby, python.
21:04:31 <gamemanj> Should they be typing about that rather dangerous species of animal, it would be highly likely that they would be typing about it, attacking me in some violent manner.
21:05:03 <gamemanj> This would be entirely on-topic, and would thus probably be a good idea - but it seems that, despite that, I have ran out of things to say.
21:06:06 <gamemanj> wob_jonas: You had 4 minutes to make the http://xkcd.com/292/ reference...
21:06:09 <wob_jonas> [ 0.004%0.454
21:06:10 <j-bot> wob_jonas: 0.00881057
21:07:28 <wob_jonas> [ 0.166%0.0254
21:07:28 <j-bot> wob_jonas: 6.53543
21:07:40 <wob_jonas> [ 1.66%0.0254
21:07:41 <j-bot> wob_jonas: 65.3543
21:09:00 <wob_jonas> this description on ebay says this 1.66 m high aluminium camera tripod weighs 0.004 kg. Is that a typo for 0.04 kg or something even higher? because 0.004 kg sounds pretty much impossible for this. => http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hama-Star-63-Tripod-With-Carry-Case-BRAND-NEW-IN-PACKAGING-/272180722091?hash=item3f5f3c39ab:g:1x0AAOSwdzVXjfnU
21:09:49 <wob_jonas> I'd like to buy a lightweight tripod, and I think I even saw something like this in a shop, but that weight is just impossible
21:12:13 <gamemanj> no, it's just that it's actually mostly paint
21:12:16 <wob_jonas> Here's another impossible one, a 1.50 m high tripod that's supposedly 0.003 kg. => http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hama-Star-42-Camera-Tripod-/152180034193?hash=item236ea30a91:g:r9MAAOSwsFpWTfSz
21:12:20 <gamemanj> you're actually buying a paper tripod
21:12:32 <gamemanj> with paint all over it
21:12:33 <wob_jonas> gamemanj: it specifies how much weight it can hold
21:12:38 <gamemanj> lies
21:12:46 <gamemanj> or it's just really good engineering
21:13:15 <wob_jonas> ah! the fun part is that in the second page, the info BELOW on the same page says it's 1.150 kg
21:15:52 <zzo38> How should a semantic version number be applied to a program if semantic version numbering is not applicable but is required anyways?
21:16:25 <wob_jonas> zzo38: zero? if that doesn't work, one?
21:17:52 <zzo38> The version number still need to be upgraded sometimes. It does not really have API anyways, if it is an interactive program.
21:18:17 <gamemanj> Treat the program as if the text IO is the API
21:18:40 <wob_jonas> Ask whoever gave the requirement that there has to be a semantic version number?
21:19:06 <gamemanj> Like, valid control commands are considered API functions. Invalid control commands are considered "relying on internal behavior" since they could be added in future.
21:19:19 <quintopia> wob_jonas: did you watch the catherine 2-controller run?
21:19:29 <zzo38> For example, if it is a Node.js package then a semantic version number is required. If nothing depends on it then probably it is not as important, but the version number is still required.
21:21:12 <wob_jonas> quintopia: no
21:21:22 <wob_jonas> quintopia: but there's a few more runs I enjoyed that I haven't mentioned yet
21:21:41 <wob_jonas> so I should mention them now for the record
21:22:06 <quintopia> wob_jonas: i highly recommend the catherine run. it's very impressive.
21:24:00 <wob_jonas> one is Pepsiman, which is right after the Mario Maker race which obviously also was great, and another is MonsterBash, which is a DOS game by Apogee, and since it's ran by CapnClever, the commentary is reliably good
21:24:34 <wob_jonas> quintopia: ok, I'll try to remember that
21:24:42 <wob_jonas> what was the other run someone recommended on this channel?
21:24:53 <wob_jonas> oh, it was Shatterhand
21:25:24 <wob_jonas> anyway, there were lots of good runs to watch, everyone will find something to like
21:25:49 <quintopia> i have yet to watch the monsterbash run
21:25:53 <wob_jonas> it's a pity there was no Super Monkey Ball run, but we had them in the last three GDQ I think
21:27:05 <quintopia> there were some very technical precision runs. probably the dustforce one was the most precision one, but i saw several that were easily in the "impossible for mere mortals" category
21:27:24 <quintopia> catherine is probably up there, since it is not a memorized run. it's 100% improvised
21:33:48 <pikhq> Also, 1 person 2 controllers.
21:34:25 <wob_jonas> quintopia: well sure, like half of these speedruns are impossible for mere mortals
21:35:24 <quintopia> wob_jonas: eh, i didn't feel like pepsiman was impossible for mere mortals. look like just a straightforward memorized run
21:35:45 <quintopia> and other than the 3YG skip, the sm sunshine run seemed vaguely doable
21:35:46 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I said half of these speedruns
21:35:53 <wob_jonas> not all
21:36:23 <quintopia> wob_jonas: you think half eh? *shrug*
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21:44:02 <zzo38> If I make the UHS compiler, then I could make it to just write zero as the checksum instead of the correct checksum, if common unofficial UHS reader programs don't care. This can help since I think the people who invented UHS do not want the official UHS reader programs to be able to load unofficial UHS hint files anyways (and I will call such unofficial files "hint files in UHS format" instead of "UHS files"), but what if zero turns out to be the
21:44:33 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I think that's truncated
21:44:50 <wob_jonas> The commentary influences a LOT how much I enjoy a speedrun video by the way.
21:45:15 <zzo38> (and I will call such unofficial files "hint files in UHS format" instead of "UHS files"), but what if zero turns out to be the correct checksum by chance?
21:46:14 <zzo38> My intention is also that the official UHS people will be able to correct the file for use with official UHS software if the file is submitted to them for approval and they approve it.
21:46:54 <wob_jonas> zzo38: what the heck are these hint files you've been talking about for a while?
21:48:03 <zzo38> Wikipedia has some information about "Universal Hint System" and links.
21:48:49 <wob_jonas> thanks
21:52:50 <zzo38> So now there is OpenUHS in Java, and my own implementation in JavaScript is called FreeUHS.
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22:07:02 <zzo38> It looks like OpenUHS ignores the checksum and will parse but ignore incentive data. FreeUHS also ignores the checksum (I don't know how to calculate it anyways), and will treat the incentive data as an unknown hunk.
22:14:02 <zzo38> UHS2HTML.pl (which is no longer available, although documentation is still available for it) will calculate the correct checksum but will not result in an error if it does not match the checksum in the file.
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22:56:10 <wob_jonas> This player is speaking in such a British accent that I have difficulty understanding some of what he says.
23:00:59 <prooftechnique> I think the best hint system in any game was that of edutainment game Wrath of the Gods
23:02:17 <zzo38> How does that one work?
23:02:36 <shachaf> Would you prefer a Hungarian accent?
23:03:31 <prooftechnique> zzo38: It's a standard adventure game, where completing certain tasks reward you with points. These points can be redeemed for consultations with the Oracle, who will give you snarky hints
23:03:50 <prooftechnique> It amused me, as a child
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23:04:15 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I think I understand a mild Hungarian accent more easily, but a heavy Hungarian accent could be worse, and speaking too fast can make speech hard to understand with almost any accent
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23:35:09 <boily> brhellørjain.
23:35:42 <wob_jonas> what
23:35:52 <shachaf> piboilynky and the brhellørjain
23:36:00 <shachaf> @pinky
23:36:00 <lambdabot> I think so, Brain! How much deeper would the ocean be if there weren't sponges down there?
23:36:08 <shachaf> @pboinky
23:36:08 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: pointy pinky
23:36:13 <shachaf> @help pointy
23:36:13 <lambdabot> pointful <expr>. Make code pointier.
23:36:18 <shachaf> of course
23:36:35 <boily> naturally.
23:36:40 <myname> wat
23:36:51 <shachaf> pinky and the pooch
23:38:44 <boily> mynamello. everything makes sense in this chännel.
23:38:56 * boily apposes his Certified Sane Man Sanity Seal
23:38:57 <myname> w{ll ...
23:39:03 <myname> *e
23:39:35 <boily> myname: you're typing on a French keyboard?
23:39:49 <myname> no, on a mobile one
23:39:58 <myname> like, touch
23:44:20 <boily> time for poutine!
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23:44:48 <shachaf> `? tanebvention
23:44:57 <HackEgo> Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex.
23:45:17 <shachaf> `slwd tanebvention//s#Go,#Go, Windows 98,#
23:45:22 <HackEgo> wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex.
23:45:40 <myname> is it go the language or gp ghe game?
23:45:48 <shachaf> `? go
23:45:50 <HackEgo> Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia.
23:46:06 <myname> seems legit
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23:50:50 <oerjan> boopsily
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23:53:59 <oerjan> . o O ( should something about pokémons be added? )
23:56:12 <oerjan> `slwd go//s/tribes/tribes catching monsters/
23:56:18 <HackEgo> wisdom/go//Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes catching monsters in the strategic territories of East Asia.
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23:58:08 <oerjan> `slwd go//s/common/common irregular/
23:58:10 <HackEgo> wisdom/go//Go is a common irregular verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes catching monsters in the strategic territories of East Asia.
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00:30:15 <Sgeo> :D
00:34:20 <oerjan> Sgeo: eventually Go will mean All Things, but not yet.
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00:56:44 <Sgeo> oerjan, just need to add a d?
00:57:03 <Sgeo> [According to some people I guess]
00:57:09 <shachaf> pooch!
00:58:30 <oerjan> Sgeo: nah, you'd have to remove it. just a simple sound change...
00:59:21 <oerjan> which incidentally is how no:god is pronounced.
00:59:45 <oerjan> (it doesn't mean God, however.)
01:09:03 <zzo38> Have you tested whether the Node.js "left-pad" package or my own JavaScript leftpad implementation (I won't publish it as a package because it is too short) is faster and/or use less memory (possibly depend on circumstances)?
01:09:37 <shachaf> zzo38: Why don't you make it longer, so that it's justified to publish it as a package, and then publish it as a package?
01:09:50 <shachaf> Anyway, you would be the person to test.
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01:10:34 <zzo38> I don't want to make it longer; it is supposed to be shorter.
01:11:23 <zzo38> I found at least two left pad packages which claim to be the fastest.
01:11:33 <oerjan> `? hydra
01:11:37 <zzo38> This is my implementation: const leftpad=(x,y,z)=>(String(z||" ").repeat(y)+x).slice(-y);
01:11:39 <HackEgo> The hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , the dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.o
01:12:04 <shachaf> zzo38: Please take inspiration from the project list at https://www.npmjs.com/package/ansi-red
01:12:12 <zzo38> It can be made a package (replace "const leftpad=" with "module.exports=") but I don't want to.
01:13:16 <oerjan> `` tail -c +100 wisdom/hydra
01:13:17 <HackEgo> e.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem
01:13:34 <zzo38> shachaf: And I think there is no point each one is a separate package.
01:14:41 <zzo38> (But, I do not recommend deleting any packages which have dependents, even if they were bad ideas to publish those packages at first)
01:15:04 <shachaf> zzo38: The best system is to put all your code in one big repository.
01:15:21 <shachaf> Then you can see what depends on what package, and you can remove packages easily.
01:16:13 <zzo38> I put each program a separate package. Of course you can do whichever way you want for your own packages though.
01:19:49 <oerjan> i can see ways of shortening `? hydra, but not enough, unless some of the urls have shorter versions.
01:22:17 <oerjan> hm or can i...
01:22:44 <shachaf> Do you want to keep the links clikable?
01:23:36 <shachaf> http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-{27.1537,16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres}.html is an option.
01:24:17 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/[Tt]he //g;s/ (is )?at/:/g
01:24:20 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikip
01:24:44 <oerjan> shachaf: i don't think non-clickable links are nice
01:24:56 <shachaf> How about redirecting links?
01:24:57 <oerjan> wat
01:25:23 <shachaf> Oh, I thought https://en.wikipedia.org/Goodstein's_theorem would redirect to /wiki/ after showing an ugly error.
01:25:30 <shachaf> But it just gives you a link, no automatic redirect.
01:26:08 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/ \(is \)?at/:/g
01:26:08 <shachaf> Well, you can make fizzie host a #esoteric URL shortener.
01:26:09 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikip
01:26:16 <oerjan> dammit
01:26:25 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/ (is )\?at/:/g
01:26:27 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//hydra is at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra at http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikip
01:26:38 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/ \(is \)\?at/:/g
01:26:41 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//hydra: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/
01:26:42 <prooftechnique> I always pronounce vegan Vegan in text, and it is always confusing
01:26:58 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/hydra: //
01:27:02 <shachaf> fizzie: What if there was something on its own origin that served HackEgo-hosted files as text/html?
01:27:03 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go
01:27:26 <shachaf> oerjan: please make wisdom entries start with the word they're wisdomming
01:27:40 <shachaf> oerjan: see `learn and the wisdom database for examples of how it should work
01:27:41 <oerjan> shachaf: i am trying to get it short enough dumbass
01:27:42 <shachaf> hth
01:27:50 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
01:27:53 <shachaf> no need for insults
01:27:55 <oerjan> however, i miscalculated
01:28:07 <shachaf> the whole joke was that you always tell people to do that
01:28:08 <oerjan> or wait, no
01:28:12 <shachaf> so now i'm telling you to do that
01:28:12 <oerjan> `? hydra
01:28:13 <HackEgo> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire hydra: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_th
01:28:31 <prooftechnique> shachaf: Not enough hth
01:28:32 <oerjan> darn still missing 5
01:28:39 <oerjan> oh right:
01:28:45 <shachaf> s/ hydra//
01:28:54 <oerjan> `slwd hydra//s/ hydra//
01:28:57 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydra//http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstei
01:29:03 <oerjan> `? hydra
01:29:05 <HackEgo> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem
01:29:08 <oerjan> yay!
01:29:51 <shachaf> Wait, when you were running the hydra for so-and-so many iterations, were you talking about the regular or the dire hydra?
01:31:15 <shachaf> Also I think you were pretty rude just then.
01:31:32 <zzo38> I don't know if there are any Node.js packages that do nothing except export a number or string (not even a function or other object). This would be the even more stupid kind of package.
01:32:39 <oerjan> <shachaf> the whole joke was that you always tell people to do that <-- sorry, but i don't get jokes when frustrated hth
01:33:27 <oerjan> shachaf: dire hth
01:33:32 <shachaf> apparently you get nasty instead hth
01:36:23 <shachaf> anyway i'm off goodstein sequences
01:36:31 <shachaf> TREE is much better
01:36:36 <shachaf> "The TREE sequence begins TREE(1) = 1, TREE(2) = 3, then suddenly TREE(3) explodes to a value so enormously large that many other "large" combinatorial constants, such as Friedman's n(4),[*] are extremely small by comparison.[1] A lower bound for n(4), and hence an extremely weak lower bound for TREE(3), is A(A(...A(1)...)), where the number of As is A(187196),[2] and A() is a version of Ackermann's func
01:36:42 <shachaf> tion"
01:37:02 <shachaf> and the definition is v. simple
01:37:04 <shachaf> it's great
01:38:24 <prooftechnique> Good ol' Kruskal
01:48:00 <shachaf> "The hydra currently has: 0 segments, 0 heads, and depth 0. Hercules has cut 165 heads so far."
01:48:07 <shachaf> Defeated the dire hydra in 165 clicks.
01:48:10 <shachaf> p. good imo
01:49:22 <prooftechnique> Quite
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03:58:38 <zzo38> FreeUHS is now available here: http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/freeuhs.ui/
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04:23:21 <zzo38> Do you like this?
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05:11:38 <zzo38> TREE(SSCG(factorial(TREE(3)+1)+1)+1) would be how much compare with many other kind of large numbers approximately?
05:12:54 <alercah> What are TREE and SSCG?
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05:14:43 <zzo38> Wikipedia mentions what they are if you look up TREE(3) and SSCG function.
05:18:38 <alercah> Why is SSCG defined?
05:20:04 <alercah> Oh I misread
05:20:26 <shachaf> SSCG is some kind of card game, it sounds like.
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05:21:23 <zzo38> They have list of large number it includes SSCG(3) also, which is even more larger than TREE(TREE(TREE(TREE(3)))) and so on, I think
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05:33:56 <shachaf> zzo38: SSCG presumably dominates that expression by far.
05:34:07 <shachaf> So the rest would be rounding errors.
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05:56:02 <shachaf> Jafet: hi Jafet
05:56:13 <shachaf> long time no fet
05:56:45 <zzo38> Now FreeUHS has find function (including optionally can be use with regular expressions, and optional full-text search), as well as a history menu, and a bug fix
06:04:04 <zzo38> I don't know if OpenUHS or the official programs support regular expression searches, but I guess not (maybe you know better though?)
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06:15:41 <Jafet> I was feeling a little too mainstream
06:15:54 <zzo38> Can you elaborate?
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07:44:25 <shachaf> `? commutative diagram
07:45:00 <HackEgo> commutative diagram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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08:06:55 <shachaf> `? diagram
08:07:06 <HackEgo> diagram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
08:07:13 <shachaf> `learn A diagram is just a functor.
08:07:22 <HackEgo> Learned 'diagram': A diagram is just a functor.
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09:43:29 <almightynsx> im back!
09:44:52 <izabera> `welcome almightynsx
09:45:00 <HackEgo> almightynsx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
09:46:42 <almightynsx> hurray!..
09:46:52 <almightynsx> i want friends....
09:47:01 <almightynsx> hurray!...
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11:46:21 <quintopia> helloily
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11:46:58 <boily> QUINTHELLOPIA!
11:47:08 <boily> @massages-loud
11:47:08 <lambdabot> Jafet asked 4h 39m 32s ago: ahoyly. I'm in a hot, humid clime.
11:47:44 <boily> @ask Jafet Jafellot. what are your approximative geographic coördinates and body weigh?
11:47:44 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
11:48:08 <b_jonas> `wisdom
11:48:21 <HackEgo> spam//Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/
11:53:56 <boily> wellob_jonas.
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11:55:30 <HackEgo> keemyb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
12:12:21 <quintopia> get to work!
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12:51:26 <hppavilion[1]> Remember kids: Chicken may seem fun, but remember to be safe
12:53:16 <LKoen> is that a Zelda thing?
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13:33:55 <Taneb> Yesterday evening my phone told me it was shachaf's birthday
13:33:59 <Taneb> I have no idea what made it think that
13:34:01 <Taneb> shachaf, happy shachafday for yesterday evening
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14:34:57 <quintopia> lel
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14:50:45 <zgrep> s/cken/ldren/g
15:14:00 <quintopia> `pbflist
15:14:08 <HackEgo> pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas
15:16:33 <quintopia> hmm...of those only shachaf and b_jonas have a point of presence here
15:17:03 <quintopia> @tell Sgeo pbf updated
15:17:03 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
15:18:25 <Jafet> @tell boily My longitude is simply my body weight east of Rwanda.
15:18:25 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
15:19:31 <quintopia> Jafet: what of your latitude
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15:22:07 <Jafet> Coïncidentally, my latitude is also my body weight east of Rwanda.
15:56:50 <izabera> how do i do the merge step in merge sort with N input streams?
15:59:49 <izabera> i can just merge them two by two and then merge the merged ones and then...
15:59:51 <izabera> right?
16:03:02 <izabera> ok i did it therightway
16:12:56 <LKoen> hmmm I remember an exercise about this
16:13:27 <LKoen> I don't think the fastest way was to merge them in a "tournament" fashion
16:13:46 <LKoen> I don't remember the argument precisely
16:15:04 <LKoen> oh yeah
16:15:13 <LKoen> the idea is you want to always merge the two smallest lists
16:15:55 <LKoen> so if the number of lists is large, you might need a heap or similar data structure to select the two smallest lists
16:16:20 <LKoen> if you make the assumption that all lists were initially the same size, though, then tournament is fine
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16:33:27 <b_jonas> quintopia: but other pepole might be reading the logs, or reading under another nick and still grepping for those nicks
16:33:42 <b_jonas> quintopia: I mean, I'm also highlighted by some alternate names
16:36:35 <b_jonas> thanks by the way
16:38:05 <b_jonas> quintopia: http://pbfcomics.com/276/ reminds me of a certain short by Örkény where some apricots on a tree are talking and decide that the Sun must be an apricot, or something like that
16:38:12 <b_jonas> let me find that
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17:31:45 <quintopia> izabera: you can merge them all at once, too! depending on impl details, it may be faster
17:32:42 <LKoen> true; and you would still require a heap or similar data structure
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17:44:50 <shachaf> Taneb: thanks
17:44:52 <quintopia> LKoen: why? a list of lists should be fine.
17:45:04 <shachaf> Taneb: i disabled that feature for future birthdays hth
17:45:23 <LKoen> quintopia: how do you select the minimum head, when merging?
17:54:48 <quintopia> LKoen: keep the list sorted by reinserting the just-popped list in the correct posiyion after each pop
17:55:04 <quintopia> binary search, logarithmic time, good as a heap
17:55:34 <LKoen> either it's a random-access list and you can't insert elements, or it's a linked list and you can't do binary search :)
17:55:42 <LKoen> linear insertion time either way
18:10:52 <miketo> not even close to the same on actual hardware ^^;
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19:38:14 <izabera> quintopia: yeah that was "therightway"
20:07:25 <quintopia> LKoen or it's a skip list and you can do logarithmic time search and constant time insert!
20:19:35 <Jafet> I,I skip ropes
20:19:52 <shachaf> Jafet: Where did you pick up "I,I" from?
20:20:47 <Jafet> I, I don't remember.
20:26:36 <\oren\> The first step to not having your evil plot exposed by russian haxxors, is to not have an evil plot in the first place.
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20:33:39 <wob_jonas> Hooray! I bought myself a compact camera
20:35:29 <izabera> now you can take selfies when your phone is broken
20:36:01 <izabera> but how are you gonna snapchat them?
20:36:27 <wob_jonas> If my phone gets broken, I'll just buy a new phone.
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20:52:05 <gamemanj> \oren\: nonsense!
20:52:11 <gamemanj> \oren\: evil plans are important!
21:11:50 <quintopia> I suppose one could use a skip rope data structure if one had a need to index into arbitrary parts of a very long string...
21:12:18 <quintopia> a rope kind of already is the right thing
21:12:28 <wob_jonas> quintopia: that, or a balanced tree with weights stored in every node
21:12:28 <quintopia> just need to give it the skip list structure
21:13:44 <wob_jonas> (put multiple characters in each leaf for real-world efficiency, with some constant upper limit length per node, and unify adjacent nodes whenever the sum of their content length is below another (smaller) constant limit)
21:14:13 <wob_jonas> wait, you only want to *index*, but never insert or delete from it?
21:14:21 <wob_jonas> no wait
21:14:27 <wob_jonas> um, let me check the logs
21:14:49 <quintopia> nah of course you'd want to insert or delete
21:15:22 <quintopia> compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_(data_structure) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_list
21:15:30 <quintopia> put them together and what do you get
21:17:29 <quintopia> @metar KATL
21:17:29 <lambdabot> KATL 261952Z 16004KT 10SM FEW070 34/16 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP155 T03440161
21:18:13 <wob_jonas> quintopia: right
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21:24:43 <izabera> how does one do any nondestructive operation on a rope?
21:25:21 <wob_jonas> izabera: same way as on any balanced tree without parent links
21:25:39 <izabera> ok
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22:10:47 <shachaf> Aha, http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rjsimmon/random/bovik2007.pdf says "Per Per Martin-Löf"
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23:00:51 * boily mapoles his router
23:00:56 <boily> @massages-loud
23:00:56 <lambdabot> Jafet said 7h 42m 30s ago: My longitude is simply my body weight east of Rwanda.
23:01:20 <boily> @tell Jafet Jafellot. makes sense.
23:01:20 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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00:01:43 <oerjan> bood evenily
00:04:49 <boily> børjansoir!
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00:11:25 <oerjan> <shachaf> long time no fet <-- hm cross-language pun?
00:12:04 * oerjan checks omniglot for whether it works in any single one
00:13:47 <oerjan> hm nope. no language has both ja=yes and no=no
00:13:56 <oerjan> (on that list, anyway)
00:18:05 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> Remember kids: Chicken may seem fun, but remember to be safe <-- . o O ( UNSAFECOERCED CHICKEN )
00:19:29 <oerjan> `? lel
00:19:37 <HackEgo> lel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:19:40 <oerjan> `? lol
00:19:43 <HackEgo> lol stands for laughing out legends
00:20:02 <myname> sounds reasonable
00:20:29 <myname> league of loud
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00:23:18 <boily> what's a fet?
00:24:15 <oerjan> it's a fet accompli
00:25:28 <oerjan> also, Nofet is presumably Jafet's evil twin.
00:25:43 <oerjan> or nemesis, maybe.
00:26:06 <myname> what's the difference
00:26:32 <oerjan> nemeses don't need to be family hth
00:27:35 <oerjan> hm i suppose evil universe mirror twins aren't technically either.
00:28:13 <oerjan> (exercise: how many ways can you permute evil, universe, mirror and twin there and still make sense)
00:28:26 <shachaf> oerjan: Are they genetic clones?
00:28:41 <shachaf> Is the goatee genetic?
00:29:00 * boily mapole oerjan en français
00:29:04 <oerjan> shachaf: i thought cloning implied a common substrate.
00:32:03 <shachaf> I used to think "beard" meant "goatee".
00:32:14 <shachaf> I didn't know about the latter word.
00:32:21 <oerjan> fancy
00:32:22 <shachaf> I still feel odd about using it.
00:32:40 <myname> as long as you don't think it means goatse
00:33:09 * oerjan points boily at myname
00:33:26 <myname> o.o
00:34:27 <boily> eh?
00:34:28 <boily> wut?
00:34:36 <boily> ah!
00:34:45 * boily happily mapoles myname with glee
00:34:52 <myname> wat
00:34:57 <boily> ^^
00:35:10 * boily *thwack* *thwack* *thwack* myname
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00:40:17 <boily_> maudit routeur de mes deux m'a te ******* aux vidanges tu vas voir ça sera pas long!
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00:41:19 <oerjan> hey how can i learn proper québécois when you censor the important words tdnh
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00:42:51 <boily> «crisser» was the word.
00:44:31 <oerjan> squee!
00:46:15 <boily> there's the French «crisser» (“to screech”, “to squeal”), and Québécois «crisser» (“to do something with violence or suddenly”).
00:46:48 <oerjan> ic
00:49:34 <boily> derived from Christ, commonly pronounced «crisse» /kʁɪs/.
00:50:12 <oerjan> jøss
00:52:15 <oerjan> hm apparently "sheesh" is also one
00:52:49 <boily> jøss?
00:53:41 <oerjan> jøss.
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01:01:34 <quintopia> ssqueely?
01:02:59 <boily> squinthellopia.
01:03:38 <quintopia> wat do
01:05:01 <boily> random dizziness. not moving much.
01:05:37 <quintopia> :O
01:05:37 <boily> @metar KATL
01:05:37 <lambdabot> KATL 262352Z 20009KT 10SM FEW075 FEW250 33/17 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP147 CB DSNT S & SW T03330172 10356 20333 55002
01:05:51 <quintopia> that got more mild since last i checked
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01:06:25 <quintopia> so is it true that quebec is less anti-american than anglophone canadia?
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01:08:15 <boily> canadia is anti-american?
01:08:51 <quintopia> politically
01:09:37 <boily> I guess my question supports your point. there's no feeling of animosity here.
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01:34:32 <\oren\> Apparently if no party gets a majority, then the House of Rep.s will pick the president, and the Senate will pick the vice president. that could be fun!
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01:36:15 <\oren\> then you could have Paul Ryan/Tim Kaine! Or Hillary Clinton/Donald Trump
01:36:37 <\oren\> Or any number of horrifying cross-party appointments
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01:37:57 <\oren\> My battery wasn't charging for some reason, so I bought a new laptop charger with more watts
01:38:06 <\oren\> now it's charging up good!
01:38:10 <oerjan> wat.
01:39:01 <\oren\> wat indeed
01:39:26 <\oren\> specifically, 90 wats instead of only 65
01:40:55 <myname> > replicate "wat" 25
01:40:56 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Int’ with actual type ‘[Char]’
01:40:56 <lambdabot> In the first argument of ‘replicate’, namely ‘"wat"’
01:40:56 <lambdabot> In the expression: replicate "wat" 25
01:41:03 <myname> dang
01:44:01 <\oren\> hehehe this is charging up so damn fast
01:44:10 <quintopia> so is anyone watching esa
01:46:26 <myname> what is esa
01:46:56 <boily> European Space Agency hth
01:47:27 <myname> i always have a good eye on my space agencies
01:47:51 <shachaf> the North American Space Agency is better hth
01:48:24 <\oren\> shachaf: it's National Aeronautics and Space Administration
01:48:30 <myname> well, "better"
01:48:47 <shachaf> \oren\: no, it's an agency for canada and mexico as well
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01:52:08 <HackEgo> No output.
01:52:23 <myname> i should sleep
01:52:46 <boily> `relcome Zekka
01:52:51 <HackEgo> Zekka: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:52:55 <boily> @localtime myname
01:52:57 <lambdabot> Local time for myname is Wed Jul 27 02:52:57 2016
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02:09:57 <quintopia> myname: european speedrunner assembly
02:10:06 <myname> wat
02:10:25 <quintopia> www.esamarathon.com
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02:30:08 <oerjan> if you run fast enough, you get into space, obviously.
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02:36:17 <myname> yeah, i did that twice
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02:43:45 <tswett> It is not the case that a human can run arbitrarily fast without getting into space.
02:44:16 <myname> how so?
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02:47:01 <tswett> As an example, I cannot run at 120 miles per hour (200 kilometers per hour) without getting into space.
02:47:21 <myname> define space
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02:55:56 <myname> i am wondering wether the sentence is corrext under the assumption that people cannot do arbitrary small turns
02:56:34 <myname> i.e. for every speed you are running, there should be a smallest possible circle you can run in
02:56:46 <myname> and the size of those should increment as speed does
02:57:05 <myname> leading to space at some ridiculously high speed
02:58:21 <\oren\> well at some speed, the ground falls away from your feet and you can't accelerate yourself
02:59:09 <myname> only if you accelerate in steps that are too small
02:59:28 <myname> if i get from 0 to speed of light in one instant, that should work out
02:59:44 <\oren\> but you'll end up in space
02:59:53 <oerjan> SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
02:59:59 <myname> that's the point
03:00:21 <oerjan> myname: a = v^2/r hth
03:00:38 <myname> okay
03:00:57 <myname> speed of light should be slightly higher
03:01:28 <\oren\> at horizantal speed v > sqrt(g*r), you fall upward
03:02:10 <\oren\> (where g is earths gravity and r is earth's radius)
03:02:28 <myname> i figured that much
03:02:41 <oerjan> the equation might not be quite relativistically correct.
03:03:11 <tswett> Acceleration is square of speed divided by radius?
03:03:34 <oerjan> in a circular movement, yes
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03:06:58 <myname> so as long as r cannot get as close to 0 as wanted, you will always break out
03:07:04 <myname> i am correct then
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04:56:35 <\oren\> Yay, I finally have a laptop charger that can charge while the sytem is powered up!
04:57:49 <oerjan> spiffy
05:00:08 <shachaf> Does the charger go on your lap?
05:00:59 <\oren\> oerjan: yeah but the obvious question is why did this laptop come with a 65 watt charger when that's inadequate to both charge the battery and run the system at full power
05:01:49 <\oren\> do they expect people to shut off their laptops to charge them? does anyone do that?
05:03:52 <oerjan> i suspect when you bought it, you forgot to check the box where it said to charge extra hth
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05:12:27 <oerjan> i expected that.
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07:44:47 <izabera> idea for a new kernel: let people use recv on non socket file descriptors
07:45:48 <izabera> so e.g. you can do non blocking reads without fcntl
07:46:41 <pikhq> Yes please.
07:47:09 <pikhq> Though... recv *already works* on non-socket FDs.
07:47:17 <izabera> does it?
07:47:21 <izabera> i don't think so?
07:47:34 <izabera> at least not on linux
07:47:53 <izabera> pretty sure you get ENOTSOCK
07:48:34 <pikhq> Depends on if you have a non-zero flags argument.
07:48:48 <pikhq> Oh, huh. That's *optional* behavior.
07:49:06 <pikhq> Per POSIX recv may refuse to work on non-sockets as it sees fit.
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07:49:51 <pikhq> Oh, per POSIX it's required to.
07:49:53 <pikhq> Sorry, I suck.
07:50:36 * izabera pats pikhq's head
07:50:39 <pikhq> izabera: More useful thing: let poll and/or select actually tell if a read request will block or not on a file.
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07:50:53 <pikhq> Clearly I have been up too long and should go to bed.
07:51:11 <izabera> :)
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09:03:17 <izabera> https://kat.am limited functionality
09:03:28 <izabera> but i'm glad to see it back
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12:25:02 <boily> @massages-loud
12:25:02 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
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12:34:14 <b_jonas> `random-card
12:34:23 <b_jonas> hmm wait, actually
12:34:46 <HackEgo> Now I Know My ABC's \ 1UU \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control permanents with names that include all twenty-six letters of the English alphabet, you win the game. \ UNH-R
12:35:04 <myname> wat
12:35:10 <b_jonas> myname: un-card
12:35:24 <myname> what?
12:36:49 <b_jonas> myname: un-cards are almost all the cards from the Unglued and Unhinged M:tG sets, two sets for sort-of self-parody that do things M:tG can't normally do. The cards have a silver outer border, and they're not legal for any sort of serious game or tournaments.
12:37:21 <FireFly> `random-card
12:37:27 <HackEgo> Vanquish the Foul \ 5W \ Sorcery \ Destroy target creature with power 4 or greater. Scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.) \ THS-U
12:38:05 <FireFly> Ah, UNH-r / THS-U is the set
12:38:36 <b_jonas> `fetch http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-07-23.zip share/mtg/AllSets-2016-04-08.zip
12:38:36 <HackEgo> http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-07-23.zip%20share/mtg/AllSets-2016-04-08.zip: \ 2016-07-27 11:38:33 ERROR 404: Not Found.
12:38:46 <b_jonas> Firefly: yes. UNH is Unhinged.
12:39:00 <b_jonas> `fetch http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-07-23.zip
12:39:08 <HackEgo> 2016-07-27 11:39:01 URL:http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-07-23.zip [719795/719795] -> "All Sets-2016-07-23.zip" [1]
12:39:27 <b_jonas> ``` mv -vi "All Sets-2016-07-23.zip" share/mtg/
12:39:34 <HackEgo> ​`All Sets-2016-07-23.zip' -> `share/mtg/All Sets-2016-07-23.zip'
12:40:15 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && unzip -l "All Sets-2016-07-23.zip"
12:40:16 <HackEgo> bash: unzip: command not found
12:40:48 <int-e> boo, "Our Market Research Shows That Players Like Really Long Card Names So We Made this Card to Have the Absolute Longest Card Name Ever Elemental" contains only 21 distinct letter (missing fjqxz)
12:41:07 <b_jonas> ``` cd share/mtg && zcat "All Sets-2016-07-23.zip" > allsets-2016-07-23.zip
12:41:15 <HackEgo> No output.
12:41:35 <b_jonas> ``` wc share/mtg/allsetes-2016-07-23.zip
12:41:38 <HackEgo> wc: share/mtg/allsetes-2016-07-23.zip: No such file or directory
12:41:47 <b_jonas> ``` wc share/mtg/allsets-2016-07-23.zip
12:41:49 <HackEgo> ​ 117206 527886 3165532 share/mtg/allsets-2016-07-23.zip
12:42:01 <b_jonas> ``` ln -svf allsets-2016-07-23.zip share/mtg/allsets.txt
12:42:06 <HackEgo> ​`share/mtg/allsets.txt' -> `allsets-2016-07-23.zip'
12:43:00 <b_jonas> `card-by-name harmless offering
12:43:02 <HackEgo> Harmless Offering \ 2R \ Sorcery \ Target opponent gains control of target permanent you control. \ EMN-R
12:43:07 <int-e> `jar
12:43:21 <HackEgo> Usage: jar {ctxui}[vfm0Me] [jar-file] [manifest-file] [entry-point] [-C dir] files ... \ Options: \ -c create new archive \ -t list table of contents for archive \ -x extract named (or all) files from archive \ -u update existing archive \ -v generate verbose output on standard output \ -f specify archive file name \
12:43:33 <int-e> there's your unzip ;-)
12:44:02 <b_jonas> int-e: I should just install a 7z
12:44:26 <int-e> `` jar -t share/mtg/"All Sets-2016-07-23.zip"
12:44:59 <HackEgo> No output.
12:49:10 <int-e> mm
12:49:18 <b_jonas> `tar --help
12:49:20 <HackEgo> Usage: tar [OPTION...] [FILE]... \ GNU `tar' saves many files together into a single tape or disk archive, and can \ restore individual files from the archive. \ \ Examples: \ tar -cf archive.tar foo bar # Create archive.tar from files foo and bar. \ tar -tvf archive.tar # List all files in archive.tar verbosely. \ tar -xf archive.t
12:49:23 <b_jonas> `bzip2 --help
12:49:25 <HackEgo> bzip2, a block-sorting file compressor. Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010. \ \ usage: bzip2 [flags and input files in any order] \ \ -h --help print this message \ -d --decompress force decompression \ -z --compress force compression \ -k --keep keep (don't delete) input files \ -f --force overwr
12:49:27 <b_jonas> `xz --help
12:49:28 <HackEgo> Usage: xz [OPTION]... [FILE]... \ Compress or decompress FILEs in the .xz format. \ \ -z, --compress force compression \ -d, --decompress force decompression \ -t, --test test compressed file integrity \ -l, --list list information about .xz files \ -k, --keep keep (don't delete) input files \ -f, --f
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13:09:32 <int-e> Is oerjan's hydra still alive?
13:10:56 <myname> you aren't supposed to asl about someone elses penis
13:22:50 <b_jonas> in HackEgo, do we have a directory under the versioned file system that's also in the shared library path? I want to install a binary that uses a shared library. if there's such a directory, I'll install directly. otherwise, I'll create a shell script wrapper that sets LD_PRELOAD
13:24:08 <b_jonas> also, why don't we have a fracking /hackenv/libexec directory?
13:25:27 <b_jonas> oh right, we can't have a user-writable directory in the GLOBAL shared library path, because that would require us writing the system /etc/ld.so.cache
13:25:42 <b_jonas> and there's apparently no LD_LIBRARY_PATH set
13:25:50 <b_jonas> ok, I'll create a LD_LIBRARY_PATH wrapper then
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13:33:18 <int-e> `? myname
13:33:21 <HackEgo> myname is not your name. You don't know what they are doing. Or you are doing. Or am I? He is Perl's evil twin brother.
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13:39:51 <b_jonas> `fetch http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz
13:40:08 <HackEgo> 2016-07-27 12:40:03 URL:http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz [1143816/1143816] -> "p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz" [1]
13:40:12 <b_jonas> ``` tar tf p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz
13:40:15 <HackEgo> bin/ \ bin/7z \ bin/7za \ lib/ \ lib/p7zip-16.02/ \ lib/p7zip-16.02/7z \ lib/p7zip-16.02/7z.so
13:40:22 <b_jonas> ``` tar xvf p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz
13:40:34 <HackEgo> bin/ \ bin/7z \ bin/7za \ lib/ \ lib/p7zip-16.02/ \ lib/p7zip-16.02/7z \ lib/p7zip-16.02/7z.so
13:40:38 <b_jonas> `rm p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz
13:40:43 <HackEgo> No output.
13:41:32 <b_jonas> argh
13:42:01 <b_jonas> ``` perl -pie y/\\r// bin/7z
13:42:03 <HackEgo> Can't open perl script "y/\r//": No such file or directory
13:42:07 <b_jonas> ``` perl -pi -e y/\\r// bin/7z
13:42:08 <HackEgo> No output.
13:42:22 <Jafet> `quote penis
13:42:23 <b_jonas> ``` perl -pi -e y/\\r//d bin/7z
13:42:31 <HackEgo> No output.
13:42:32 <HackEgo> 52) <oklopol> if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has \ 173) <elliott> oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better?
13:43:00 <b_jonas> ``` perl -pi -e 's/LD_PRELOAD/LD_LIBRARY_PATH/' bin/7z
13:43:03 <HackEgo> No output.
13:44:15 <b_jonas> ``` 7z # wtf?
13:44:16 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/lib/p7zip-16.02/7z: 1: /hackenv/lib/p7zip-16.02/7z: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
13:44:25 <b_jonas> what does that error message even come from?
13:45:06 <b_jonas> ``` 7za
13:45:07 <HackEgo> bash: /hackenv/bin/7za: cannot execute binary file
13:45:11 <b_jonas> hmm
13:45:52 <b_jonas> this doesn't seem to be working
13:57:20 <b_jonas> might have to compile a new one or something
13:57:22 <b_jonas> wait iwat
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14:07:03 <b_jonas> ``` objdump -p bin/7za | grep ^..NEEDED
14:07:05 <HackEgo> ​ NEEDED libpthread.so.0 \ NEEDED libc.so.6
14:07:39 <b_jonas> that's why. it's an x86_32 executable, and we don't have x86_32 libraries, not even libc.so.6
14:08:00 <b_jonas> ``` objdump -f bin/7za
14:08:01 <HackEgo> ​ \ bin/7za: file format elf32-i386 \ architecture: i386, flags 0x00000112: \ EXEC_P, HAS_SYMS, D_PAGED \ start address 0x0804a8f0
14:08:47 <b_jonas> I'd probably have to build a static one for source if I want this
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14:08:56 <b_jonas> or an x86_64 dynamic one from source
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16:56:15 <\oren\> Hmm... are Hungary/hungry puns racist?
16:56:41 <b_jonas> \oren\: I don't think they're racist, but they're kind of boring
16:57:40 <\oren\> How about Turkey/turkey puns?
16:58:39 <myname> what's the difference between racism and asians? ...
17:00:03 <\oren\> I don't know, what?
17:00:15 <myname> racism has many faces
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17:26:39 <almightynsx1> does anyone know of any good documentaries about real magic?
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17:29:06 <izabera> and with real you mean not the gathering?
17:29:34 <almightynsx1> yes
17:29:58 <almightynsx1> not the card game
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17:38:22 <Taneb> `welcome almightynsx1
17:38:27 <HackEgo> almightynsx1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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17:58:26 <almightynsx1> thanks
18:29:00 <izabera> the opposite of assassin is dickdickout
19:02:17 <Taneb> izabera, I don't think ass has a defined opposite
19:02:37 <Taneb> One could argue that its opposite should be, for example, tits
19:10:55 <\oren\> mouth
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19:13:15 <Taneb> horse
19:13:46 <Taneb> Wow, why am I doing this
19:13:57 <Taneb> Why am I nitpicking a joke I actually found rather funny
19:14:08 <Taneb> izabera, apologies, and thank you for the joke
19:29:39 <Elronnd> One might argue that the opposite of ass is philanthropist, but that completely ruins the joke
19:29:46 <Elronnd> or perhaps good samaritan
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19:35:03 <\oren\> Trump openly called for the russians to hack hillary and release her private emails
19:36:11 <\oren\> The entire planet is entering an age of madness
19:38:43 <\oren\> This is going to be hilarious and terrifying at the same time
19:41:41 <int-e> nah, it's just us people who're going mad
19:42:12 <int-e> (mad human disease)
19:45:36 <shachaf> `? mad
19:45:39 <HackEgo> This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate.
19:45:45 <shachaf> `howg mad
19:45:51 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> le/rn mad/This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. \ <oerjan> rm wisdom/mad #this thing has been too damn true lately \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <oerjan> revert \ <FreeFull> run rm -rf wisdom \ <shachaf> revert 0 \ <shachaf> run rm -rf wisdom/* \ Initial impor
19:47:40 <shachaf> oerjan: Why did you censor that wisdom entry?
19:48:31 <int-e> He could've cited copyright reasons... except they expired, I think: '"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."'
19:49:12 <shachaf> I remember.
19:49:12 <FreeFull> Caroll died in 1898, there is no way the copyright hasn't expired
19:49:24 <shachaf> `? u
19:49:31 <HackEgo> u monad?
19:49:36 <shachaf> `? the u
19:49:37 <HackEgo> The U are a very mad people.
19:49:40 <shachaf> `` rgrep -l mad wisdom
19:49:49 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydrogen \ wisdom/holy water \ wisdom/welcome.eo \ wisdom/nobody \ wisdom/itidus21 \ wisdom/everyone \ wisdom/\oren\ \ wisdom/pizza \ wisdom/skeleton \ wisdom/sand \ wisdom/the u \ wisdom/madness \ wisdom/vampire \ wisdom/prography \ wisdom/madbr \ wisdom/mroman \ wisdom/alice \ wisdom/marriage \ wisdom/lmt \ wisdom/progres \ wisdom/@ \ wisd
19:50:03 <FreeFull> `skeleton
19:50:05 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: skeleton: not found
19:50:06 <FreeFull> `? skeleton
19:50:07 <HackEgo> A skeleton is an unintelligent undead, similar to the zombie but harder to create, because it's lacking most of the body. The best skeletons are made by groups of people, so-called skeleton crews.
19:50:32 <shachaf> `? hydrogen
19:50:33 <HackEgo> Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
19:50:40 <shachaf> `` rgrep -lP '\bmad\b' wisdom
19:50:42 <HackEgo> wisdom/nobody \ wisdom/everyone \ wisdom/the u \ wisdom/alice \ wisdom/lmt \ wisdom/gamemanj
19:50:43 <FreeFull> Ah, "made"
19:50:56 <shachaf> `1 rgrep -P '\bmad\b' wisdom
19:50:59 <HackEgo> 1/2:wisdom/nobody:Nobody killed the cyclops Polyphemos after he tried to eat a shipful of sailors, and this perceived injustice made Poseidon so mad he swore vengeance at him and the gods couldn't calm him down for ten years. \ wisdom/everyone:Everyone in here is mad. \ wisdom/the u:The U are a very mad people. \ wisdom/alice:Alice
19:51:10 <shachaf> `spam
19:51:12 <HackEgo> 2/2:doesn't want to go among mad people. \ wisdom/lmt:lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel. \ wisdom/gamemanj:gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here.
19:52:41 <int-e> shachaf: anyway, good question... it was accurate in a good way.
19:53:11 <int-e> `? alice
19:53:11 <HackEgo> Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
19:53:27 <int-e> some traces remain, apparently.
19:53:33 <shachaf> `cwlprits alice
19:53:37 <HackEgo> int-e ais523 mroman
19:53:44 <shachaf> `howg alice
19:53:47 <HackEgo> ​<int-e> revert accbc9c5c7ec \ <ais523> echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ <mroman> learn Alice doesn\'t want to go among mad people.
19:56:09 <int-e> I checked the log and indeed this is an offspring of the "mad" entry.
19:58:30 <int-e> Before oerjan *murdered* it.
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20:01:24 <shachaf> `1 rgrep madness wisdom
20:01:26 <HackEgo> 1/1:wisdom/madness:madness lies thataway. \ wisdom/mroman:mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare.
20:02:09 <myname> i am curious to see such a hash function
20:02:30 <shachaf> `? identify function
20:02:31 <HackEgo> identify function? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:02:47 <izabera> what is this `1 ?
20:02:50 <int-e> myname: take any constant function
20:03:10 <myname> yeah, that's what i thought of, too
20:03:12 <shachaf> Someone once gave me a puzzle: Find two periodic functions whose sum is the identity function.
20:03:15 <int-e> (it may be hard to do worse than that)
20:03:21 <myname> but i wouldn't say it's worse
20:03:41 <myname> it is easy to login as someone else
20:03:53 <myname> but it is impossible to get the original password in case of a leak
20:04:14 <int-e> myname: hmm, true. so it depends on what you're trying to defend against
20:09:39 <int-e> shachaf: is it okay to work in Z/6Z? (I guess you want R -> R, but you didn't specify that)
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20:09:54 <shachaf> The puzzle is R -> R
20:10:13 <shachaf> I think it requires the axiom of choice.
20:11:41 <int-e> thanks I'll ponder that on my way home
20:12:36 <int-e> (involving the axiom of choice isn't much of a surprise)
20:44:56 <\oren\> hmm... something to do with interference patterns
20:48:41 <\oren\> the periods definitly have to be different
20:49:46 <\oren\> and in fact, at least one of them has to be irrational
21:01:57 <\oren\> hmm, could you not just take the fourier series and divide it into two?
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21:06:37 <\oren\> suppose the period of f is a, and the period of g is b
21:08:41 <\oren\> f(x+b) = b + x - g(x)
21:12:39 <int-e> shachaf: okay, you don't have to be overly creative for that problem (no transfinite induction required)
21:12:56 <int-e> shachaf: (only a straightforward application of the AoX)
21:12:57 <\oren\> hmmm so you really need only find a single function g, and then prove that there exists an a, such that for all x, 0 = g(x) + a - g(x + a)
21:12:58 <int-e> AoC.
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21:14:15 <\oren\> oh, and also prove that there exists b such that from all x, 0 = g(x) - g(x + b)
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21:19:02 <\oren\> int-e: axiom of choice? hmmm well what if you turned the real numbers into a cartesian product
21:21:17 <\oren\> one periodic function that might help is the modulo function
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21:23:09 * \oren\ looks through thing equivalent to the axiom of choice. there are a lot
21:23:37 <int-e> shachaf: http://sprunge.us/BWCV (spoiler)
21:24:46 <\oren\> what if you made the real numbers into a vector space and found a basis
21:25:45 <\oren\> for example the basis (...,10,1,0.1,...)
21:26:20 <\oren\> every real number can be represented as a linear combination of those
21:26:34 <\oren\> with integer coeficints too
21:27:18 <int-e> \oren\: but not uniquely, which is potentially a problem
21:27:19 <\oren\> but it isn't really a good basis because they aren't linearly indepeted
21:27:59 <\oren\> int-e: right so what we need is a basis where they're all primes or inverted primes or something
21:28:09 <int-e> I'm not ruling out that such a vector space construction works but... it has to be over some field, and if you want to obtain the usual addition in R as vector space addition, the field must have characteristic 0. Q is probably the natural choice in that case.
21:28:53 <\oren\> the coeficints would be rationals? ok
21:29:15 <int-e> "if you want to obtain the usual addition in R as vector space addition"
21:30:49 <int-e> Anyway I didn't find vector spaces useful here.
21:30:57 <shachaf> int-e: The person who gave me the puzzle used the vector space of R over Q.
21:31:01 <\oren\> int-e: well I do, because we need to have the end result two functions that add together
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21:35:19 <\oren\> shachaf: ok well that vector space must have a basis by the
21:35:23 <\oren\> Axiom of choice
21:35:52 <\oren\> so suppose it's some set of numbers A={a,b,...}
21:36:08 <\oren\> defiantly an infinite set
21:37:01 <\oren\> can we show that f_a(x) = the coeficient of x for a is periodic?
21:37:12 <int-e> shachaf: okay, I can make that work but it seems to be an unecessary complication to me.
21:37:23 <int-e> or unnecessary
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21:39:14 <\oren\> if we can, then all that remains is to prove that there exists some other number z, such that for all x, f_a(x) + z - f_a(x + z) = 0
21:41:27 <FreeFull> \oren\: Aren't real numbers already a vector space
21:41:46 <\oren\> hmm f_a(b) = 0 for any b in A\a
21:42:02 <int-e> FreeFull: sure, but not in a useful way for shachaf's puzzle
21:42:22 <\oren\> and f_a(x+b) = f_a(x) + f_a(b) = f_a(x)
21:42:27 <\oren\> so it's periodic!
21:42:39 <FreeFull> I'm thinking the two periodic functions aren't continuous
21:42:45 <\oren\> f_a(a) = 1
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21:43:03 <FreeFull> Also you only have to find one periodic function
21:43:13 <int-e> FreeFull: you can rest assured that they are not; their graphs are both dense in the real plane
21:43:32 <\oren\> FreeFull: and prove that x-f(x) is also periodic
21:45:31 <\oren\> and I think f_a(a^2) = a
21:46:04 <FreeFull> The period doesn't matter
21:46:18 <FreeFull> So let's assume it's 2*pi
21:46:23 <\oren\> hmm I wonder what the period of x - f_a(x) would be?
21:46:50 <\oren\> FreeFull: it certainly does, you need it in order to prove that it's periodic
21:47:21 <FreeFull> Hm, I assumed the periods have to be equal, but maybe not
21:47:29 <int-e> FreeFull: they can't be equal
21:48:03 <FreeFull> I bet it'd be best to use a fourier transform somehow
21:48:07 <int-e> FreeFull: otherwise the sum of the two functions would be periodic (with the same period, and potentially shorter ones), and f(x) = x isn't periodic.
21:48:38 <FreeFull> int-e: Good point
21:48:54 <FreeFull> Means that the periods can't be a rational multiple of each other either
21:49:29 <int-e> FreeFull: in fact the two periods have to be incommensurable, as the Pythagoreans would say.
21:50:09 <int-e> (well, as you just pointed out yourself)
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21:51:47 <FreeFull> You do need an infinite number of discontinuities, but does the function have to be discontinuous everywhere, or can you get away with some continuity?
21:52:20 <int-e> FreeFull: and the point of viewing R as a vector space, as far as I can see, is to make the two periods part of the basis of the vector space. So R as vector space over R doesn't help.
21:52:31 <wob_jonas> oh, a calculus question. let me look at the logs (though I probably can't solve it, I'm bad at calculus)
21:52:44 <int-e> FreeFull: no, continuity anywhere would contradict denseness of the graph in the plane ;)
21:52:49 <\oren\> wob_jonas: more like an algebra question
21:52:57 <FreeFull> int-e: Ah, right, you already proved it's dense
21:53:16 <int-e> (smiley because it's a sledgehammer argument)
21:53:25 <wob_jonas> what's the question?
21:53:41 <int-e> wob_jonas: finding two periodic function (R -> R) whose sum is the identity function
21:53:42 <FreeFull> Damn, it's actually really difficult to come up with functions that are continuous nowhere
21:54:03 <int-e> FreeFull: f(x) = 1 if x in Q, 0 otherwise.
21:54:04 <wob_jonas> int-e: oh... I think I heard that, but I don't know a solution off-hand. hmm
21:54:07 <\oren\> oh, wait, we have to use g(x) = f_a(x)a
21:54:24 <FreeFull> int-e: I mean in general
21:54:25 <wob_jonas> oh, isn't that a set theory question actually? or at least one solution is
21:54:28 <\oren\> which means that g(x) still has period b
21:54:28 <wob_jonas> I remember now
21:55:08 <\oren\> and also, g(x + a) = g(x) + g(a) = g(x) + a
21:55:31 <wob_jonas> let me think, I think there might be a construction using the well-ordering theorem
21:56:04 <\oren\> means that x + a - g(x + a) = x + a - g(x) - a = x - g(x)
21:56:15 <\oren\> so x - g(x) has period a.
21:56:17 <\oren\> QED
21:56:17 <int-e> wob_jonas brings out the big guns.
21:56:28 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes
21:56:37 <\oren\> int-e: I already solved it
21:56:39 <wob_jonas> int-e: I doubt there's a simple algebraic solutino
21:57:01 <\oren\> except that I have no idea how to construct a basis for R over Q
21:57:01 <int-e> wob_jonas: shachaf has a solution; I have one at http://sprunge.us/BWCV; \oren\ is stumbling around, I think; I don't know about FreeFull.
21:57:05 <wob_jonas> as in, I think you need axiom of choice for it
21:57:12 <FreeFull> I don't even have any idea how to do it, really
21:57:15 <int-e> wob_jonas: well, the Axiom of Choice will play into the solution in some form.
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21:57:20 <wob_jonas> int-e: I want to think about it without reading a full solution for a little bit
21:57:33 <int-e> wob_jonas: but well-ordering may not be the best form :)
21:57:53 <wob_jonas> int-e: sure, it might be the theorem that every vector space has a basis (was mentioned above)
21:58:01 <int-e> wob_jonas: sure, I'm just stating it's there and summarizing what's happing, since you didn't look at the logs.
21:58:05 <FreeFull> int-e: Does it matter that it's sqrt(2) in particular?
21:58:08 <wob_jonas> I did look at the logs
21:58:12 <wob_jonas> just not enough to see the question
21:58:18 <int-e> FreeFull: no, it's just convenient.
21:58:31 <int-e> FreeFull: I mean, name an irrational number!
21:58:36 <FreeFull> e
21:58:46 <wob_jonas> by the way, do you know my other favourite maths question? not the Chameleon one, but the one that has a LOT of different ways to solve, which is why I like it
21:59:01 <\oren\> if you have such a basis A, then f_a(x)a where a is a member of the basis and f_a(x) is the coeficient of a in x, has period b where b is any other member of A, and x - f_a(x)a is periodic with period a
21:59:30 <wob_jonas> I would guess you can start with any two periods whose quotient is irrational
21:59:46 <wob_jonas> it's not likely that there's a further restriction
21:59:46 <FreeFull> Another irrational number: 1 + 1/(2 + 1/(3 + 1/(4 + ...)))
22:00:06 <wob_jonas> FreeFull: hmm, does that have a closed form?
22:00:20 <wob_jonas> I could check in plouffe's but I'm lazy
22:00:53 <FreeFull> wob_jonas: No idea
22:02:03 <\oren\> I found an article online that uses this approach
22:02:51 <\oren\> except they call f_a(x) instead (x,a)
22:03:23 <\oren\> they also have x^2 as a sum of periodic functions
22:03:54 <wob_jonas> hmm, indeed maybe it would be worth to use a vector space basis (of the reals over rationals), which can help because we know it's countable
22:03:55 <\oren\> A polynomial of degree n is the sum of n+1 periodic functions
22:04:05 <\oren\> apparently
22:04:22 <\oren\> wob_jonas: and the coeficints are each periodic
22:04:45 <wob_jonas> \oren\: I don't see why that's important
22:04:52 <wob_jonas> I mean, I don't see why that's necessary
22:05:00 <wob_jonas> it might simplify the construction, but I don't see why
22:05:03 <wob_jonas> um
22:05:10 <wob_jonas> no, I can't talk properly
22:05:13 <\oren\> I proved it earlier
22:05:35 <\oren\> suppose a and b are two of your basis numbers
22:05:52 <\oren\> f_a(x) is the coeficint of a in x
22:06:05 <\oren\> f_a(b) must be 0
22:06:18 <\oren\> (or else they aren't independent)
22:06:36 <\oren\> f_a(x + b) = f_a(x) + 0
22:06:47 <\oren\> (by linearity)
22:07:40 <wob_jonas> \oren\: ok, now I don't get what you're talking about. what coefficients of what?
22:08:08 <\oren\> well if x is in R, and A is a basis for R over Q
22:08:32 <\oren\> that means there exist functions f_a, f_b,.... for each a,b.... in A
22:08:55 <\oren\> such that f_a(x)*a + f_b(x)*b +.... = x
22:09:39 <\oren\> these rational coeficients are used to add up rational multiples of the basis numbers, to create each number in R
22:11:00 <wob_jonas> \oren\: ah, ok.
22:11:40 <FreeFull> wob_jonas: ISC says it might be Besl(0,2)/Besl(1,2)
22:12:37 <\oren\> so then, the expansion of a in A would be (1,0,0,....)
22:13:11 <FreeFull> wob_jonas: Yeah, that seems to be actually the case
22:13:15 <\oren\> so then , we know that f_a(b) is 0, just as f_b(a) is 0
22:13:57 <\oren\> and f_a(x + b) = f_a(x) + f_a(b) = f_a(x)
22:14:09 <\oren\> therefore f_a is periodic with period b
22:14:28 <\oren\> (as well as other periods, but it is enoght to have one)
22:14:39 <FreeFull> wob_jonas: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=BesselI(0,2)%2FBesselI(1,2)
22:15:02 <FreeFull> It even gives a continued fraction
22:15:18 <shachaf> "(1,0,0,....)" -- the basis can't be countable, can it?
22:15:37 <int-e> Oh the point for the polynomials of degree n is that p(<sum of n+1 terms>) splits into a sum of n+1 functions with only n arguments each.
22:15:40 <\oren\> shachaf: maybe not, but so long as we can choose two elements out of it
22:15:53 <\oren\> a, and b
22:15:58 <FreeFull> Lower down, it says that 1.433127... = 1/2 for some reason
22:16:02 <wob_jonas> oh wait, I'm stupid
22:16:16 <wob_jonas> I said some really stupid things about this math problem above, so ignore almost all of it please
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22:16:37 <\oren\> then I think what I said work
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22:21:19 <\oren\> x - f_a(x)*a defiantly has period a
22:21:31 <int-e> \oren\: uhm how do you define a sum of uncountably many terms? besides, the problem asked for a sum of only two periodic functions.
22:21:46 <int-e> and can you please stop using "defiantly" instead of "definitely"
22:21:57 <\oren\> int-e: we're not defining it
22:22:00 <shachaf> \oren\ defiantly continues to use words int-e doesn't like
22:22:18 <int-e> shachaf: that was okay
22:22:25 <\oren\> int-e: we're just using the fact there exists a basis for R over Q
22:22:39 <int-e> shachaf: despite the fact that "definitely" also fits there...
22:22:56 <\oren\> and that we can select two numbers a and b out of said basis
22:23:10 <shachaf> int-e: Presumably all but a finite number of components are 0.
22:23:37 <\oren\> such that the coefficent of a in x, f_a(x), has certain properties
22:24:09 <\oren\> specifically, f_a(x + y) = f_a(x) + f_a(y)
22:24:15 <\oren\> f_a(a) = 1
22:24:22 <\oren\> f_a(b) = 0
22:24:25 <\oren\> that's all
22:24:39 <int-e> \oren\: so f_a has period b, great... what now?
22:24:46 <int-e> \oren\: what's the other function?
22:24:55 <\oren\> now, x - f_a(x) has period a
22:25:02 <\oren\> now, x - f_a(x)a has period a
22:25:05 <\oren\> whoops
22:25:22 <\oren\> the functions are f_a(x)a and x - f_a(x)a
22:25:38 <int-e> hmm. right, sorry.
22:25:44 <\oren\> which looks a lot less confusing written of paper
22:28:30 <int-e> (sorry, I got lost in the false attempt and irrelevant remarks... I missed the line where you wrote out x - f_a(x)*a, because I was too busy complaining about the word.)
22:28:54 <wob_jonas> I seriously think I should rather solve this problem with the well-ordering theorem than with vector space basis
22:29:16 <alercah> What's the original problem?
22:29:54 <wob_jonas> alercha: prove that the identity function on the reals can be written as the sum of two periodic functions on the reals
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22:30:24 <\oren\> yeah I would prefer a constructed solution as opposed to my hypothetic existence proof
22:31:07 <int-e> the followup problem (simplified version: write f(x) = x^2 as the sum of three periodic functions) will not work with the vector space approach, since that can only produce additive functions. (f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y))
22:31:55 <int-e> Well the axiom of choice very much seems necessary. (Though I have no proof of that.)
22:32:02 <wob_jonas> I mean, I understand if you want to factor the reals to equivalence classes of numbers whose difference is a sum of integer multiply of the two periods (let's call them 1 and sqrt(2) for simplicity)
22:32:14 <wob_jonas> but that doesn't need choice, I don't think I need a complete vector space basis
22:32:50 <wob_jonas> I do think the AC is necessary, but I'd not like to use it through a vector space basis, but through the well-ordering or something similar
22:33:06 <int-e> how about plain AC.
22:33:17 <wob_jonas> possibly that too
22:33:23 <wob_jonas> I'll try to find a proof
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22:47:16 <int-e> sketch for the simplified followup question: http://sprunge.us/DdKC
22:47:52 <wob_jonas> ok wait, I'm stupid
22:48:51 <wob_jonas> or don't wait
22:49:17 * int-e exhales
22:50:34 <int-e> hmm, I missed some terms there...
22:51:24 <wob_jonas> Anyway, my favourite maths problem is at http://mathoverflow.net/a/90201/35417 :
22:51:39 <int-e> correcting: http://sprunge.us/ALEN
22:51:54 <wob_jonas> There exists a set $ A $ that is everywhere dense on the square $ [0, 1]^2 $, but such that for any real number $ x $, the intersections $ A \cap (\{x\} \times [0, 1]) $ and $ A \cap ([0, 1] \times \{x\}) $ are both finite.
22:52:13 <wob_jonas> I love that problem because there are so many different approaches for it that lead to a proof.
22:52:31 <wob_jonas> So everyone you ask gives different proofs.
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22:58:10 <int-e> tooo many degrees of freedom.
22:58:14 <izabera> http://www.kylem.net/stuff/zero_computer.html
22:58:53 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, too many different sets $ A $ too.
23:00:19 <int-e> wob_jonas: how about the obvious bijection of rational numbers in [1,2) with powers of two as denominators to themselves: reverse the bits.
23:01:47 <int-e> (additional constraints: no choice; all the intersections should have size at most 1; high school level)
23:02:08 <int-e> hmm highschool
23:02:18 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, that works. it's another version similar to the first solution I give in the node, where I define the set without powers of two
23:02:51 <wob_jonas> it's probably the solution that needs the least mathematical prerequisites
23:03:03 <wob_jonas> which means that normal mathematicians don't usually give that, they know too many advanced stuff for it
23:03:36 <int-e> Oh if I wanted a hammer I'd use transfinite induction on the cardinality of the continuum.
23:03:40 <wob_jonas> I list the solutions in 8 bullet points ordered from most elementary to least elementary prerequisites.
23:04:42 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, that's how the 6th solution works, it's a big hammer, at least for mathematicians like me who learned of set theory somewhat late
23:04:45 <int-e> so, the 6th bullet point.
23:06:08 <int-e> (countable topological bases need extra work)
23:06:44 <wob_jonas> int-e: "extra work" hehe
23:06:58 <wob_jonas> just take all the rational squares
23:08:13 <int-e> That's too Borel. (I have not done much topology so I usually want circles with arbitary real diameter.)
23:08:24 <int-e> arbitrary.
23:08:39 <int-e> and then it's continuum sized.
23:08:51 <wob_jonas> int-e: hehe
23:09:06 <wob_jonas> int-e: I mean, you don't really need to know what a "topological base" is for this
23:09:20 <wob_jonas> that's just the way a topologist describes it
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23:09:42 <wob_jonas> you just need to know basic real calculus, that every disk contains a rational circle
23:09:45 <int-e> Anyway, except for the random one these are all good proofs to my mind.
23:10:17 <wob_jonas> heh
23:10:30 <wob_jonas> in what sense of "good proofs"?
23:11:04 <wob_jonas> or, in what sense is the random one not a good proof
23:11:04 <int-e> Err, sorry, I don't understand the last one.
23:11:08 <alercah> I like set-theoretic structures like topologies, sigma-algebras, and filters. They lead to very weird properties
23:11:26 <wob_jonas> yes, the last one was hard to understand, it took a LOT of time for my friends to convince me that it probably works
23:11:34 <wob_jonas> that's why it's last
23:12:17 <wob_jonas> the problem there is that that set is easy to come up with, and easy to conjecture that it works, but we didn't find an easier proof to prove that it works
23:12:50 <wob_jonas> so once you fixate on that set, you're sort of screwed
23:13:32 <alercah> int-e: I love using the transfinite induction hammer for analysis proofs
23:13:41 <alercah> because they tend to be excessively direct
23:14:00 <wob_jonas> alercah: what's your favourite problem with such a proof?
23:14:03 <int-e> I guess I'm not very good with measure theory, which you need to make the probabilistic argument rigorous.
23:14:31 <alercah> wob_jonas: That every closed real interval is compact
23:14:54 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, so if you know a lot of set theory but not much of advanced calculus, then the set theory proofs seems more natural to you
23:15:24 <wob_jonas> alercah: doesn't that have a more elementary proof too?
23:15:25 <alercah> (Heine-Borel theorem, basically)
23:15:26 <alercah> yes
23:15:39 <wob_jonas> good
23:15:49 <wob_jonas> because I remember I read the proof first in a book that uses elementary maths only
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23:16:48 <wob_jonas> iirc even the version that every bounded closed set in R^n is compact has an elementary proof there
23:16:58 <alercah> The elementary proof is basically that, given an open cover, if you need infinitely many members to cover a closed & bounded set, you can assume it's an interval, then subdivide it to get a smaller set.
23:17:10 <alercah> or multiple smaller sets, more accurately
23:17:15 <alercah> at least one of which requires infinite cover
23:17:26 <alercah> you can do this indefinitely to get an ever-decreasing sequence
23:17:38 <wob_jonas> right, so using the completeness of reals
23:18:19 <int-e> wob_jonas: btw, the *construction* in the last proof makes perfect sense, but I would have a much more elementary approach to establishing density.
23:18:40 <alercah> eventually, the set gets small enough that it can be covered by a single member, which is the contradiction
23:18:44 <wob_jonas> int-e: does that give a working proof? if it does, I'd be interested
23:18:47 <int-e> denseness
23:18:52 <alercah> the transfinite proof I came up with is hilarious
23:19:49 <alercah> if you're trying to cover [a, b], let I_0 = (i_0, j_0) cover a, I_1 = (i_1, j_1) cover j_0, and so on
23:20:34 <alercah> if you don't cover the entire interval, let I_{\omega} = (i_{\omega}, j_{\omega}) cover sup_{\alpha < \omega} j_\alpha
23:21:12 <alercah> repeat this process transfinitely until it does cover the entire interval [a, b], which must happen because you have an open cover and there are more ordinals than intervals
23:22:54 <wob_jonas> alercha: go on
23:23:54 <alercah> then for each limit ordinal \alpha you used, you can build a finite cover of [a, i_{\alpha}] by taking the previous limit ordinal's finite cover and adding successive intervals until you pass i_{\alpha}, which must happen after finitely many steps since the upper bounds converge to j_\alpha > i_\alpha
23:24:46 <alercah> and just repeat this until you cover [a, b]
23:25:52 <wob_jonas> what what
23:25:53 <alercah> if you visualize it, what you're basically doing is finding the ordinal-like strucure in the upper ends of the intervals, you might try a bunch and find that they convege, and then try more and find that they converge, and then try this infinitely many times and find that *those* upper bounds converge, etc.
23:26:18 <alercah> but you can always cover the limit point and cut off all but finitely many previous intervals
23:28:32 <alercah> (the argument I gave above doesn't, technically, work, because "previous limit ordinal" isn't well-defined. But it shows you the point of the argument.
23:28:56 <alercah> it's a transfinite induction on "there is a finite subcover of [a, i_{\alpha}]"
23:29:43 <alercah> )
23:29:52 <alercah> wob_jonas: ^
23:37:10 <wob_jonas> alercah: I think it's late and I'm too tired to think of math now
23:37:15 <wob_jonas> but thanks for telling
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23:45:50 <boily> `? alercah
23:45:59 <HackEgo> alercah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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23:58:58 <oerjan> merheboily!
2016-07-28
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00:03:34 <oerjan> <shachaf> oerjan: Why did you censor that wisdom entry? <-- i'm pretty sure the explanation was right in your `howg output, twice.
00:04:29 <shachaf> 11:53:03 <int-e> shachaf: anyway, good question... it was accurate in a good way.
00:05:19 <shachaf> Last I heard being correct wasn't grounds for wisdom removal.
00:05:58 <oerjan> but to make it clear, i started feeling bad about it after several people here (myself included) had actual mental problems.
00:08:21 <oerjan> <int-e> Before oerjan *murdered* it. <-- it was an accident, i swear ... oh wait, you _aren't_ talking about the hydra.
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00:09:34 <shachaf> Ah.
00:09:42 <shachaf> How do I tell whether I have actual mental problems?
00:10:24 <oerjan> well if you tell people you have actual mental problems, then you obviously don't </catch-22>
00:10:55 <boily> manao ahoerjana e.
00:11:11 <boily> uhm... persian?
00:11:35 <oerjan> not intended to be persian
00:12:17 <oerjan> google says that was malagasy
00:12:31 <wob_jonas> oerjan: what?
00:13:15 <oerjan> wob_jonas: boily's porthello hth
00:14:07 <wob_jonas> oerjan: no, I mean the one before that, "if you tell people you have actual mental problems, then you obviously don't". I don't think that's true
00:14:27 <oerjan> wob_jonas: you seem to have missed the </catch-22>
00:14:38 <wob_jonas> yeah, it works there
00:14:43 <wob_jonas> but that's the army
00:15:02 <oerjan> context, wob_jonas, context
00:15:13 <boily> oerjan: *ding* e!
00:15:16 <wob_jonas> ok, whatever
00:15:29 * boily is still trying to parse the merheboily...
00:15:34 <shachaf> oerjan: but i'm not in the army hth
00:16:56 <oerjan> boily: let's say that your intuition about the language is good, just off.
00:17:34 <oerjan> (there' nothing resembling it in the list of persian phrases i'm looking at, so it cannot be that you've seen it before, i think?)
00:18:16 <boily> I haven't seen anything like that. I'm guesstimating what it is from memoresemblance...
00:18:26 <boily> pashto or dari, mayhaps?
00:18:30 <oerjan> nope.
00:18:51 * oerjan should look those up
00:20:02 <boily> azerbaïjani?
00:20:04 <int-e> wob_jonas: it's not pretty, more theory would probably help... see http://sprunge.us/XBYi for a sketch
00:20:43 <oerjan> hm dari isn't on that site
00:20:46 <oerjan> boily: nope
00:22:01 <oerjan> azerbaijani is the wrong family
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00:23:03 <quintopia> coily
00:24:32 <boily> Inuugujaquintopia!
00:25:32 <oerjan> int-e: anyway, my hydra did not die in the prescribed way, but due to a stupid erroneous keypress tdnh
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00:25:42 <quintopia> boily: not going to try identify the language, but a random guess would be inuit hth
00:25:53 <boily> quintopia: close enough. Greenlandic.
00:25:59 <boily> oerjan: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
00:26:22 <quintopia> farsi is a very pretty language fo sho
00:26:30 <quintopia> i mean orthography
00:26:32 <boily> oerjan: kurdish?
00:26:36 <quintopia> i don't know how it sounds
00:26:37 <oerjan> *DING*
00:27:00 <boily> quintopia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMEBEcxzYA
00:27:04 <boily> woohoo!
00:27:37 <quintopia> boily: are you watching thee esa marathon at all
00:27:57 <oerjan> kurmanji to be precise.
00:29:20 <oerjan> inspired by (1) being the language of the owners of my local restaurant (2) being featured in a recent langfocus video on youtube (where i learned there's more than one kurdish language)
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00:30:28 * oerjan finds langfocus both interesting and annoyingly shallow at the same time
00:34:23 <oerjan> also, it's both funny and tragic that he's had to explicitly disavow _ever_ making a video on balkan languages
00:35:22 <oerjan> (he got burned too much by his slavic video)
00:38:32 <int-e> wob_jonas: and of course, while accessible to elementary means, the whole rational approximations business is closer to advanced territory.
00:41:32 <oerjan> <int-e> boo, "Our Market Research Shows That Players Like Really Long Card Names So We Made this Card to Have the Absolute Longest Card Name Ever Elemental" contains only 21 distinct letter (missing fjqxz) <-- sounds like a good start, anyway
00:44:21 <quintopia> int-e: if you were to read "-(-x)" out loud, what words would you use?
00:44:59 <int-e> ? minus minus x
00:45:18 <oerjan> @ask myname <myname> you aren't supposed to asl about someone elses penis <-- why else would you asl them, anyway
00:45:18 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:46:23 <quintopia> int-e: would you always read "-x" as "minus x"?
00:46:27 <oerjan> ?list
00:46:27 <lambdabot> What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas.
00:46:35 <oerjan> ?list ?
00:46:35 <lambdabot> compose provides: @ ? . compose
00:46:55 <int-e> quintopia: where is this line of inquiry headed? it could be an awkwardly shaped lollipop
00:47:10 * oerjan wonders if "? " is implemented as a special case or an actual command
00:48:14 <quintopia> int-e: nowhere. that's the last question.
00:48:52 * oerjan smacks int-e with candy ---x
00:48:55 <int-e> it could be the negation of x if minus feels ambiguous or otherwise out of place.
00:48:57 <quintopia> also, I have never seen the phrase "awkwardly shaped lollipop" anywhere before
00:49:11 <int-e> oerjan: OUCH
00:49:57 <oerjan> quintopia: neither has google, it seems
00:50:09 <quintopia> oerjan: i searched google before i said that
00:50:18 <int-e> yay, I'm original!
00:50:45 <quintopia> int-e: what does the metaphor represent?
00:51:05 <oerjan> there's a metaphor?
00:51:12 <oerjan> sometimes a lollipop is just a lollipop
00:51:35 <quintopia> oerjan: when "it" is a line of inquiry, the lollipop is definitely a metaphor
00:51:43 <int-e> what metaphor?
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00:52:09 <quintopia> int-e: oh did you mean -x could be an emoji of an awkwardly shaped lollipop?
00:52:19 <int-e> sorry, there really wasn't one, it was all based on looking at -x
00:52:27 <int-e> I don't do emojis.
00:52:34 <oerjan> there wasn't a metaphor, just an anaphor
00:52:39 <int-e> emoticons, perhaps.
00:52:39 <quintopia> pronoun ambiguity is what there was
00:52:55 <quintopia> int-e: emoji would save you 3 characters hth
00:53:11 <int-e> quintopia: those savings are not worth the pain.
00:53:42 <int-e> (emojis are for people who lack the imagination to see a face in :-) )
00:54:07 <quintopia> int-e: i use the word emoji to describe all things once called emoticons hth
00:54:23 <oerjan> quintopia: "it" is an anaphor hth
00:54:38 <int-e> quintopia: fortunately for both of us, I'm not you.
00:55:07 <quintopia> (i really feel like the things we now call empji should be called emoticons, since they are, now, actually icons)
00:56:02 <quintopia> i feel like the term emoticons arose to replace "smileys" when AIM started replacing the strings with images
00:56:22 <quintopia> so really you should be calling :-D and such smileys
00:56:35 <quintopia> or else you're not really l33t h4x0r
00:57:17 <quintopia> oerjan: it sure is.
00:57:26 <boily> quintopia: >_>'...
00:57:55 <quintopia> boily: how would you read the mathematical string "-(-x)" out loud natively?
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00:58:54 <boily> quintopia: "moins moins x"
00:59:20 <quintopia> boily: how is x pronounced frenchly?
00:59:59 <boily> /mwɛ̃.mwɛ̃.ɪks/
01:01:16 <oerjan> `` ls bin/7z*
01:01:18 <HackEgo> bin/7z \ bin/7za
01:01:27 <oerjan> `hoag bin/7za
01:01:38 <HackEgo> ​<b_jonas> `` tar xvf p7zip-16.02-linux-bin-only.tar.xz
01:02:00 <wob_jonas> oerjan: I installed 7z but it doesn't work: it's a x86_32 executable and needs an x86_32 shared libc which HackEgo doesn't have installed
01:02:07 <quintopia> hehe "ɪks"
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01:02:15 <quintopia> x the cat
01:02:22 <oerjan> wob_jonas: figures.
01:03:09 <oerjan> wob_jonas: i was actually just testing if your failed perl -pie command had created 7ze by accident.
01:03:18 <wob_jonas> 7ze ?
01:03:22 <oerjan> (it's happened with sed before.)
01:03:26 <wob_jonas> ah
01:03:28 <wob_jonas> right
01:03:30 <wob_jonas> because of -ie
01:03:47 <oerjan> yeah
01:05:35 <int-e> perl works great with -pie
01:06:58 <oerjan> int-e: it didn't work when wob_jonas tried it.
01:08:29 <int-e> perl works better without pie
01:08:47 <quintopia> pie works better without perl
01:08:48 <int-e> I think sleep will be better for me than IRC
01:08:51 <quintopia> mmm pie
01:08:54 <quintopia> nainai
01:09:20 <int-e> it's 2 am, an excellent time for having gone to bed 3 hours ago.
01:09:41 <quintopia> also an excellent time for watching esa marathon
01:09:49 <wob_jonas> yeah
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01:21:07 <shachaf> `smlist 448
01:21:09 <HackEgo> smlist 448: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
01:21:30 <shachaf> `smlist 449
01:21:31 <HackEgo> smlist 449: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
01:25:18 <\oren\> `? smlist
01:25:19 <HackEgo> Non-update notification for the webcomic Super Mega.
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01:38:53 <\oren\> `? pi
01:38:54 <HackEgo> pi is a very round number.
01:39:01 <\oren\> `? pie
01:39:02 <HackEgo> I like pie \ I like pie
01:39:18 <\oren\> `? real
01:39:19 <HackEgo> The reals are an overt complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994.
01:39:41 <\oren\> `? egobot
01:39:42 <HackEgo> EgoBot is my arch-nemesis.
01:39:54 <\oren\> `?
01:39:55 <HackEgo> ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:39:58 <\oren\> `?
01:39:59 <HackEgo> ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:40:09 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:40:11 <HackEgo> europe//Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo.
01:40:14 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:40:16 <HackEgo> test//test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available.
01:40:26 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:40:28 <HackEgo> algebraic number theory//Algebraic number theory was invented by Fermat to prove his theorem, but he didn't have room to write it down.
01:40:44 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:40:49 <HackEgo> ascii//ascii is the plural of ascius
01:40:59 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:00 <HackEgo> indonesia//Indonesia is a large island country in Asia and the world's most populous muslim country. Its major export is rayon textile from the Indonesian fnord.
01:41:14 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:15 <HackEgo> tg//TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not.
01:41:31 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:32 <HackEgo> cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however.
01:41:42 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:43 <HackEgo> yuy//yuy:yay::lulz:lol
01:41:52 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:54 <HackEgo> hth//hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
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01:41:58 <\oren\> `wisdom
01:41:59 <HackEgo> lmt//lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel.
01:43:04 <oerjan> @tell int-e <int-e> Well the axiom of choice very much seems necessary. (Though I have no proof of that.) <-- maybe you can prove it's non-measurable
01:43:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:43:54 <shachaf> `howg pie
01:43:58 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <ais523> revert 87c64ef250a0 \ <ais523> revert 3 \ <elliott> revert 1492 \ <FreeFull> revert 4 \ <oerjan> revert 999 \ <FreeFull> revert 0 \ <FreeFull> run echo "I like pie" >> wisdom/pie \ <FreeFull> run echo "I like p
01:44:17 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/pie
01:44:24 <HackEgo> No output.
01:44:55 <oerjan> Y U NO LIKE PIE
01:46:46 <shachaf> I like pie.
01:46:55 <shachaf> I just don't like the liking of pie.
01:47:12 <shachaf> > pi * exp 1
01:47:14 <lambdabot> 8.539734222673566
01:48:00 <FreeFull> I shouldn't have reversed all those wisdoms back then
01:48:08 <FreeFull> Now I keep coming up in those revision messages
01:48:26 <FreeFull> > exp pi
01:48:28 <lambdabot> 23.140692632779267
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01:51:05 <shachaf> `howg algebraic number theory
01:51:11 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> le/rn algebraic number theory/Algebraic number theory was invented by Fermat to prove his theorem, but he didn\'t have room to write it down.
01:51:38 <shachaf> `slwd algebraic number theory//s#Algebraic number theory#The theory of algebraic numbers#
01:51:40 <HackEgo> wisdom/algebraic number theory//The theory of algebraic numbers was invented by Fermat to prove his theorem, but he didn't have room to write it down.
01:52:09 <shachaf> `howg cube
01:52:12 <HackEgo> ​<int-e> learn_append cube The companion cube does not speak, however. \ <int-e> revert accbc9c5c7ec \ <ais523> echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ <oerjan> learn Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape.
01:52:26 <shachaf> int-e: i don't get it hth
01:52:51 <shachaf> I like oerjan's wisdom entry.
01:53:07 <shachaf> But the extra sentence is, what? Just a Portal reference? Is there anything to it that I'm missing?
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02:05:10 <Sgeo> My brain melted https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13876555_10204880436330398_6866559669432638812_n.jpg?oh=9c6d8f7fd2c021c94dcb9862b4721bd9&oe=5829E339
02:05:59 <Sgeo> Maybe I'm taking it too literally, but the remaining Bernie-or-Busters seem about as good at math as [insert negative opinion about politician here]
02:06:05 <Sgeo> </content-note-politics>
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02:18:51 <quintopia> sgello
02:24:42 <Sgeo> hi
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02:30:48 <Sgeo> Magikarp has a use??? (to evolve into Gyarados)
02:31:28 <pikhq> Yes, Magikarp evolves into Gyarados, which is awesome.
02:32:54 <shachaf> can humans evolve
02:35:36 <pikhq> Sgeo: It's a reference to a Chinese legend about how carp that can leap over the Dragon Gate will become dragons.
02:35:45 <pikhq> Hence Gyarados looking like a Chinese dragon.
02:35:52 <pikhq> shachaf: Not in the Pokemon sense.
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02:42:15 <\oren\> `wisdom
02:42:16 <HackEgo> userweps//boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus
02:42:28 <shachaf> `wisdom
02:42:29 <HackEgo> macron//Ā macron is what you put ōver ā long vowel in order to mark it as ā long vowel. Macrons will bēcome mandatory in English on Octōber 14, 2016.
02:42:38 <shachaf> I thought it was a kind of cookie?
02:42:41 <\oren\> SOON
02:43:13 <shachaf> `howg macron
02:43:17 <HackEgo> ​<tswett> le/rn macron/\xc4\x80 macron is what you put \xc5\x8dver \xc4\x81 long vowel in order to mark it as \xc4\x81 long vowel. Macrons will b\xc4\x93come mandatory in English on Oct\xc5\x8dber 14, 2016.
02:43:24 <shachaf> That's why we need a timestamped version of howg.
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02:44:10 <\oren\> SŌN macrons wil bē hēr
02:44:20 <Sgeo> Does the TCG snowball? Like, when you knock out an opponent Pokemon, you take a card from your Prize card into your hand, which might help you knock out more Pokemon more quickly
02:45:30 <\oren\> `whyg
02:45:32 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whyg: not found
02:45:46 <\oren\> `wheng
02:45:47 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wheng: not found
02:46:01 <shachaf> that's now how howg is pronounced hth
02:46:33 <\oren\> `hthg
02:46:35 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hthg: not found
02:46:56 <shachaf> Your jokes would work just as well without the HackEgo response line.
02:47:00 <shachaf> Even better, really.
02:47:36 <\oren\> hwy hwud i hwant htat?
02:49:04 <oerjan> `? human
02:49:06 <HackEgo> Humans are significantly more complicated, even up to homeomorphism.
02:49:20 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/human
02:49:38 <\oren\> `wisdom
02:49:39 <HackEgo> hthmonoid//hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids ...
02:49:54 <\oren\> `wisdom
02:49:55 <HackEgo> snap//Snap is a simple web development framework for unix systems, written in the Haskell programming language. Snap has a high level of test coverage and is well-documented.
02:50:05 <\oren\> `wisdom
02:50:07 <HackEgo> racoonspirator//A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur
02:50:27 <izabera> i need moral support, i'm fighting against segfaults and losing
02:50:44 <oerjan> <shachaf> that's now how howg is pronounced hth <-- says who
02:50:57 <izabera> someone please lend me a shoulder to cry upon
02:51:08 <shachaf> oops
02:51:09 <shachaf> s/now/not/
02:51:20 <oerjan> shachaf: great, now i can add the one i was thinking of
02:51:42 <oerjan> `learn Humans are constantly evolving, although not as fast as pokémons.
02:51:46 <HackEgo> Relearned 'human': Humans are constantly evolving, although not as fast as pokémons.
02:52:05 <oerjan> oh you didn't actually delete it.
02:52:14 <oerjan> WHATEV
02:52:39 <\oren\> `? pokemon
02:52:40 <HackEgo> A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket.
02:53:14 * oerjan gives izabera a cold shoulder
02:53:23 <izabera> i want a hot one
02:53:45 <oerjan> shachaf: i read it as "not" anyway.
02:54:14 <\oren\> `? arabic
02:54:16 <HackEgo> arabic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:54:19 <shachaf> oerjan: This thing where you live 10 minutes in the past is pretty confusing.
02:55:56 <\oren\> `le/rn Arabic/Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics.
02:56:00 <HackEgo> Learned «arabic»
02:56:09 <oerjan> shachaf: 's ok i'm almost present now.
02:56:25 <shachaf> \oren\: hey, what happened to `learn
02:56:40 <shachaf> Well, even oerjan abandoned starting a wisdom entry with the entry name already.
02:57:10 <\oren\> `? font
02:57:12 <HackEgo> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz
02:57:45 <oerjan> `` rev <wisdom/arabic >tmp/arabic; mv {tmp,wisdom}/arabic
02:57:48 <HackEgo> No output.
02:57:52 <oerjan> `? arabic
02:57:54 <HackEgo> ​.scihpylgoreiH sa drah sa ton hguoht ,troppus stnof ekam ot drah yrev si taht egaugnal citimes lartnec a si cibarA
02:59:33 <\oren\> lol
02:59:38 <\oren\> that's grear
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03:15:27 <izabera> i won my fight o.o
03:15:37 <izabera> the result is super cool
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04:06:29 <\oren\> izabera: what did you make?!
04:06:43 <izabera> a cake
04:06:50 <izabera> it's so gooooood
04:07:23 <shachaf> `wisdom
04:07:26 <HackEgo> blank//
04:07:31 <shachaf> `wisdom
04:07:32 <HackEgo> united states//See America.
04:07:33 <shachaf> `wisdom
04:07:35 <HackEgo> lie bracket//Politicians try to stay within the lie bracket: Not so many lies that voters cannot stand it, but not so few that they think you have nothing to give them.
04:08:03 <shachaf> `wisdom
04:08:05 <HackEgo> nobody//Nobody killed the cyclops Polyphemos after he tried to eat a shipful of sailors, and this perceived injustice made Poseidon so mad he swore vengeance at him and the gods couldn't calm him down for ten years.
04:08:07 <shachaf> `wisdom
04:08:13 <HackEgo> gene ray//Dr Gene Ray is the Greatest Philosopher, and is the Greatest Mathematician. Cubic Harmonics. Only Cubic Harmonics can save humanity. Cubic Harmonics will pacify all religions. 96-hour Cubic Day debunks 1-day unnatural god. 96-hour day willdisprove disunity god. Academians are teaching - pseudocience. Worshipping a Word God will destroy th
04:08:20 <shachaf> `howg blank
04:08:24 <HackEgo> ​<hppavilion[1]> le/rn blank/
04:08:30 <shachaf> `howg united states
04:08:33 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <ais523> revert 87c64ef250a0 \ <ais523> revert 3 \ <oerjan> echo "See America." | tee wisdom/usa >wisdom/\'united states\'
04:08:44 <shachaf> tough call
04:08:49 <Sgeo> Where has elliott been?
04:08:52 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/blank
04:08:54 <HackEgo> No output.
04:09:05 <shachaf> HackEgo: exactly
04:11:38 <\oren\> `? america
04:11:40 <HackEgo> This wisdom entry had to be removed due to a DMCA takedown notice.
04:11:46 <\oren\> lol
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04:39:39 <Elronnd> `? \oren\
04:39:40 <HackEgo> ​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there?
04:39:53 <\oren\> `? oren
04:39:53 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters.
04:40:01 <shachaf> `? orin
04:40:02 <HackEgo> orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line.
04:40:05 <shachaf> I preferred "orin".
04:40:24 -!- \oren\ has changed nick to orin.
04:41:02 <Elronnd> ``learn \oren\ "If he knew he was a tree, he wouldn't be, a \oren\"
04:41:04 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `learn: not found
04:41:09 <Elronnd> `` learn \oren\ "If he knew he was a tree, he wouldn't be, a \oren\"
04:41:10 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
04:41:16 <Elronnd> `` learn \oren\ "If he knew he was a tree, he wouldn't be, a \\oren\\"
04:41:19 <HackEgo> Relearned 'oren': oren If he knew he was a tree, he wouldn't be, a \oren\
04:41:36 <orin> I spelled it orin from time to time on my homework until a teacher had trouble understanding that it was the same person.
04:41:51 <orin> Some people also call me warren
04:42:55 <oerjan> `revert
04:43:13 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
04:43:14 <oerjan> `? oren
04:43:18 <HackEgo> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters.
04:43:31 <oerjan> Elronnd: your wisdom privileges are revoked hth
04:45:04 <Elronnd> `? \oren\
04:45:08 <HackEgo> ​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there?
04:45:41 <oerjan> Elronnd: both your syntax errors and what you actually tried to do were painful to watch.
04:47:36 <Elronnd> oerjan: I haven't been here in a while, okay?
04:49:16 * oerjan gets a sudden attack of tiredness
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05:29:36 <Sgeo> https://www.reddit.com/r/pkmntcg/comments/24s2cs/retreat_costdouble_colorless/
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05:31:30 <tswett> http://xkcd.com/1629/ - this reminds me of that computer language I'm trying to create.
05:32:16 <tswett> I think the name of it was Tokiber.
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05:32:51 <tswett> The language is all about maximum generality.
05:33:23 <tswett> As in, when you write code, you're not merely writing code for the category of sets.
05:33:35 <tswett> It generalizes to all other categories you can generalize it to.
05:45:53 <tswett> Lemme go ahead and define some stuff about natural transformations.
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07:39:14 <hppavilion[1]> Wow, I just checked http://xkcd.com/1043/, and it's fairly accurate it appears
07:39:31 <hppavilion[1]> Yet somehow, I'm more interested in a spike in searches for Wordpress in June 2014
07:39:42 <hppavilion[1]> (peaking in July)
07:39:53 <hppavilion[1]> Wikipedia doesn't mention any vulnerabilities in that year at all
07:40:12 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, and it appears people are taking up Livejournal again
07:40:36 <izabera> there's no facebook
07:56:13 <orin> `` echo $((0xAdc0 - 0xAc00))
07:56:25 <HackEgo> 448
07:56:29 <orin> hmm
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07:59:00 <lifthrasiir> orin: hangul?
07:59:30 <orin> yeah I've decided on a semi-automated approach
07:59:51 <lifthrasiir> -!- \oren\ is now known as orin
07:59:51 <lifthrasiir> heh
07:59:54 <orin> I'm generating them using a script
08:00:07 <orin> and then adjusting them manually
08:00:16 <orin> when they don't look good
08:00:47 <lifthrasiir> I was busy recently, so I haven't had a look at Unison for some months
08:00:58 * lifthrasiir should complete ancient Hangul.. :S
08:04:02 <orin> so I'll still be drawing some manually, but only when the simple "overlay parts" approach doesn't produce a nice result
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09:01:25 <hppavilion[1]> There is a serious problem here: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F01yrx%2C%20%2Fm%2F0bt9lr&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B8
09:02:45 <hppavilion[1]> this is hppavilion[1] sister speaking. hello and welcome to cat world
09:08:11 <shachaf> What's the problem?
09:10:14 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Dogs are less popular than cats
09:10:16 <hppavilion[1]> *more
09:10:23 <hppavilion[1]> I meant more
09:10:29 <hppavilion[1]> Please forgive me cat overlords
09:13:34 <int-e> shachaf: that did help, you must not have played the Portal game.
09:13:56 <shachaf> I did play it.
09:14:07 <shachaf> But is it anything other than a reference?
09:14:20 <hppavilion[1]> My sister is now incredibly interested in IRC
09:14:28 <hppavilion[1]> I'm going to show her fungot
09:14:28 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: with a few warts here there? ( under linux...)
09:14:43 <shachaf> That's our fungot.
09:14:44 <fungot> shachaf: are you still working on it now
09:14:45 <hppavilion[1]> fungot is fun
09:14:45 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: whats a library? i'd like to get
09:15:01 <hppavilion[1]> ^style
09:15:01 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
09:15:07 <int-e> shachaf: a reference, a twisted mind, an evocative image perhaps...
09:15:11 <hppavilion[1]> ^style agora
09:15:12 <fungot> Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical)
09:15:14 <shachaf> `? cube
09:15:19 <hppavilion[1]> She decided she wants to see agora
09:15:23 <HackEgo> Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however.
09:15:40 <hppavilion[1]> fungot: How about those jetstreams?
09:15:41 <fungot> hppavilion[1]: such a directive to award the boon of prodigy. how the regulations may not be limited to) any remaining units of
09:15:41 <shachaf> int-e: What does speaking have to do with it? What's the "however" about?
09:16:44 <int-e> shachaf: I think your questions mean it was a very valuable addition to the wisom entry :-P
09:16:57 <shachaf> I don't think so.
09:17:02 <shachaf> What was valuable?
09:17:06 <int-e> (Usually the way it happens is that I want to make a wisdom entry and it already exists.)
09:17:11 <int-e> shachaf: confusion
09:17:16 <int-e> `? wisdom
09:17:19 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø?
09:17:22 <int-e> entertainment
09:17:27 <int-e> also I'm easily amused.
09:21:06 <int-e> (there is also the fact that in the game, there is a variant level where the companion cube is a sphere. that may be relevant.)
09:23:16 <shachaf> int-e: Here's another puzzle for you: How many "8"-shapes can you fit on a plane?
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09:24:12 <int-e> I suspect it depends on the number of seats
09:24:35 <int-e> if it's a mathematical question I'll need a definition.
09:24:41 <shachaf> Well, you already saw the probability puzzle with people seated randomly on a plane.
09:25:42 <shachaf> An "8" is, let's say, two circles tangent to each other.
09:26:02 <shachaf> Actually you can stretch them too. Let's say two ellipses.
09:26:17 <shachaf> Oh, I forgot to mention that they can't overlap.
09:26:19 <shachaf> Important detail.
09:27:37 <shachaf> Anyway the question is whether you can fit uncountably many.
09:27:50 <int-e> are they curves or do they have an area?
09:27:57 <b_jonas> int-e, \oren\: ok, so in the morning with a clearer head, the sum of two periodics is much easier. no, you don't need well-ordering, nor a vector-space basis, nor any other form of transfinite induction.
09:28:18 <shachaf> You mean, are they filled in?
09:28:37 <int-e> anyway, I think I've seen this with circles... fiting a continuum of them on a plane by transfinite induction.
09:28:42 <int-e> *fitting
09:28:49 <shachaf> Well, fitting circles is pretty easy.
09:28:59 <b_jonas> Say the periods of the two functions will be 1 and P = sqrt(2). Factor the reals to equivalence classes modulo addition of m+n*P where m and n are integers.
09:29:05 <shachaf> For any real r you can put a circle with radius r around (0,0).
09:30:49 <b_jonas> Note that you can write a real as m+n*P in only at most one way. Use choice to take a representative of each equivalence class. Every real can be written in the form of x+m+n*P where m, n are integers and x is the representative of the class of that real.
09:31:35 <b_jonas> So define f(x+m+n*P) = x+n*P, and g(x+m+n*P) = m. Then f is periodic by 1, g is periodic by P, and f+g is the identity.
09:32:49 <shachaf> Oh, I think I mentioned that puzzle here before.
09:33:08 <shachaf> I remember talking to someone (oklopol?) about it.
09:33:31 <int-e> b_jonas: okay, now you can easily do x^2 with three periodic functions.
09:44:44 <b_jonas> shachaf: which puzzle?
09:44:51 <b_jonas> the sum of two periodic functions?
09:44:58 <shachaf> The other one.
09:45:08 <b_jonas> shachaf: which other one?
09:45:29 <b_jonas> oh, THOSE sets of puzzles
09:45:34 <shachaf> The one just before you joined.
09:45:38 <b_jonas> have you mentioned the tee one yet?
09:45:53 <b_jonas> hm, there's more than one tee
09:45:58 <b_jonas> let me search, there was a hard one
09:47:38 <b_jonas> "Here's another puzzle for you: How many "8"-shapes can you fit on a plane?" / "An "8" is, let's say, two circles tangent to each other." / "Oh, I forgot to mention that they can't overlap."
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09:51:27 <b_jonas> shachaf: there was some disucssion about similar stuff near http://www.komal.hu/forum/forum.cgi?a=to&tid=7&st=25&dr=0&sp=1842
09:53:23 <b_jonas> shachaf: one such problem was: can you fit more than countable non-overlapping tee-shapes growing from the x axis in the plane, where a tee-shape is the union of a vertical segment starting from the x axis and a horizontal segment that contains the top of the vertical segment in its middle
09:54:42 <b_jonas> the harder problem was: how many pairwise non-overlapping nails can you fit in 3-space, where a nail is the union of a circular disk and a segment such that the endpoint of the segment is the center of the disk and the two aren't coplanar.
09:55:03 <b_jonas> the latter problme is posed in entry [1842] in that thread
09:56:06 <b_jonas> make the link http://www.komal.hu/forum/forum.cgi?a=to&tid=7&st=50&dr=1&sp=2167 because that's permanent
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09:58:23 <b_jonas> I'll have to review my proof there to give ideas, maybe that will help in the figure 8 shapes.
10:01:09 <b_jonas> wait, apparently that thread also mentions the figure eights
10:01:12 <b_jonas> I'll have to re-read that thread
10:02:41 <shachaf> That thread seems to be in Hungarian.
10:02:48 <b_jonas> shachaf: yes
10:03:18 <shachaf> It's too late for Hungarian.
10:03:21 <shachaf> I'll go to sleep instead.
10:03:35 <b_jonas> good night then
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10:07:53 <b_jonas> I don't get it
10:08:03 <b_jonas> where's the figure eight problem on the forum?
10:08:11 <b_jonas> was it brought in from some other thread?
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10:24:29 <b_jonas> it seems like there's no reference to the figure eight problem in that thread, except one throwaway mention by me
10:24:32 <b_jonas> strange
10:24:40 <b_jonas> that means I'd heard that version before but forgot
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10:51:18 <b_jonas> heh!
10:51:23 <izabera> hoh!
10:51:37 <izabera> hellonas
10:51:53 <b_jonas> int-e, \oren\: I just found a mention of that sum of two periodic functions problem on that forum (man, this forum has lots of folklore problems):
10:54:41 <b_jonas> https://cornellmath.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/periodic-functions-problem/ linked from post [2796] in http://www.komal.hu/forum/forum.cgi?a=to&tid=7&st=50&dr=1&sp=1217
10:55:14 <izabera> looks greek
10:59:24 <b_jonas> and then people even try to give a solution later in the thread
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12:15:50 <boily> `wisdom
12:16:00 <HackEgo> space elevator//Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency.
12:16:42 <b_jonas> Heh, an easy problem from the forum: find two natural numbers m and n such that m + 1 < n, and for every natural number k where m < k < n, 1 < gcd(k, m*n).
12:16:44 <FreeFull> It'll be something super low probably, despite the high tension
12:18:44 <FreeFull> b_jonas: I'm guessing that no case where n = m + 2 will work
12:23:54 <b_jonas> FreeFull: yes, because gcd(m+1, m) = 1 and gcd(n-1, n) = 1, so gcd(m+1, m*(m+2)) = 1 too
12:27:37 <FreeFull> We could replace n with m+k maybe
12:27:51 <FreeFull> Well, not k, some other letter
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12:28:51 <FreeFull> Actually, that's not helpful
12:30:06 <FreeFull> I'm gonna write some code
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12:36:00 <FreeFull> b_jonas: Got it
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12:36:39 <b_jonas> oh, that that thread also has the chameleon problem
12:36:43 <b_jonas> I forgot I told that one there
12:37:13 <b_jonas> (I told it with more boring fluff back then, I think I invented the "chameleon" part later.)
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12:55:20 <b_jonas> Ok wait, so what problems did we leave hanging? the figure eights one, and what else?
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12:56:52 <b_jonas> oh, and the regular pentagon in that Euclides game
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16:35:18 <b_jonas> oh finally!
16:35:27 <b_jonas> http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/eldritch-moon-update-bulletin-2016-07-28 Eldritch Moon Update Bulletin (M:tG)
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16:38:28 <b_jonas> do we have a `rulesupdatebulletinlist ?
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16:41:18 <orin> well each figure 8 has a smallest circle surrounding it
16:42:17 <orin> if we can fit countably many figure eights inside that circle, while keeping those figure eights' surrounding circles clear
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16:42:57 <b_jonas> zzo38: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/eldritch-moon-update-bulletin-2016-07-28 Eldritch Moon Update Bulletin (M:tG) came out today
16:44:50 <orin> no wait I think that's till countable
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16:46:13 <orin> specifically, by going down, left or right I can identify them with trinary decimals
16:46:19 <orin> er...
16:46:48 <orin> trinary numbers with a finite decimal expansion
16:46:53 <orin> er...
16:47:05 <orin> whatever, a subest of Q!
16:49:10 <orin> how in the name of knuth do you say that properly?
16:49:34 <LKoen> multiples of the inverse of a power of 3
16:49:35 <b_jonas> I suspect there's a proof that you can't get more than countable figure eights that's similar to my proof for the tacks problem. I'll have to think about this.
16:49:47 <orin> LKoen: nice!
16:49:59 <LKoen> or trinary numbers with a finite digit expansion
16:50:21 <LKoen> arguably "trinary numbers" is enough, since "decimal number" means a number with finite decimal expansion
16:51:02 <LKoen> numbers with a finite trinary digit expansion*, no need to say trinary twice
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17:13:49 <zzo38> The rules prevent double-faced, meldable, and melded permanents from being turned face-down
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17:28:28 <b_jonas> zzo38: yep, but double-faced and meldable cards can still be put obf face down by manifest
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17:47:37 <izabera> idea to obfuscate c code: import all the headers, then use macros for purposes they're not intended for
17:48:30 <b_jonas> izabera: sure, you can do that easily with constants
17:48:34 <b_jonas> like, write SEEK_SET instead of 0
17:48:42 <izabera> yeah exactly
17:48:43 <b_jonas> though that sort is mostly surfacial
17:48:48 <izabera> aww
17:49:05 <izabera> ok :(
17:49:17 <orin> separate the code into files, split on unconventional tokens
17:49:32 <orin> int main() {
17:49:40 <orin> #include "a"]
17:49:46 <orin> #include "a"
17:49:49 <orin> #include "b"
17:49:52 <orin> }
17:49:57 <orin> #include "c"
17:50:03 <orin> = 2;
17:50:06 <orin> }
17:50:19 <izabera> or split constant strings between files
17:50:27 <izabera> printf("FOO"
17:50:30 <izabera> "BAR");
17:50:40 <izabera> in two different files i mean
17:51:13 <orin> any series of tokens that appears twice, make it a file
17:51:48 <orin> or a macro
17:52:05 <izabera> make copies of standard headers and rename them with weird names
17:52:13 <izabera> like time.h -> brainfuck_interpreter.h
17:52:20 <orin> actually, that's not obfuscttion, that would be a form of compression
18:00:47 <b_jonas> izabera: the SEEK_SET thing probably works best with underhanded code, or very clever obfuscation like that ioccc/2000/primenum
18:03:48 <orin> Lately I like to do things like *(struct A*)"binary data here"
18:05:14 <izabera> eeeeeeevil
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18:06:53 <orin> or *(short*)"numbers"
18:07:24 <orin> it certainly makes the code shorter
18:08:55 <orin> because for bytes that are ascii printable, or above 0x7f, you cna just put the raw data in
18:09:15 <orin> (gcc doesn't check that high bytes form vaid utf-8)
18:10:37 <orin> so the only bytes that cause problems are ", \, and some control chars
18:15:41 <orin> Actually, the only control char that really causes problems is \n
18:16:06 <orin> and only in some compilers... it doesn't seem to cause a problem with tcc
18:17:19 <orin> `` echo -e '#include "stdio.h"\nint main(){puts("\n");}' >/tmp/testnl.c
18:17:32 <HackEgo> No output.
18:17:52 <orin> `` gcc /tmp/testnl.c -o /tmp/testnl
18:17:56 <HackEgo> gcc: error: /tmp/testnl.c: No such file or directory \ gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated.
18:18:17 <orin> ehhh
18:19:03 <orin> `` ls /
18:19:07 <HackEgo> bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr
18:19:13 <orin> `` ls /tmp
18:19:15 <HackEgo> No output.
18:19:34 <orin> `` touch /tmp/foo; ls /tmp
18:19:38 <HackEgo> foo
18:19:41 <orin> `` ls /tmp
18:19:43 <HackEgo> No output.
18:20:03 <orin> `` echo -e '#include "stdio.h"\nint main(){puts("\n");}' >/tmp/testnl.c; gcc /tmp/testnl.c -o /tmp/testnl
18:20:13 <HackEgo> ​/tmp/testnl.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/testnl.c:2:17: warning: missing terminating " character [enabled by default] \ /tmp/testnl.c:2:1: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/testnl.c:3:1: warning: missing terminating " character [enabled by default] \ /tmp/testnl.c:3:1: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/testnl.c:3:1:
18:20:36 <orin> yeah, so gcc complains if there's a newline in a string literal, but tcc doesnt
18:20:57 <orin> `` echo -e '#include "stdio.h"\nint main(){puts("\b");}' >/tmp/testnl.c; gcc /tmp/testnl.c -o /tmp/testnl
18:21:06 <HackEgo> No output.
18:21:16 <orin> `` echo -e '#include "stdio.h"\nint main(){puts("\0");}' >/tmp/testnl.c; gcc /tmp/testnl.c -o /tmp/testnl
18:21:23 <HackEgo> ​/tmp/testnl.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/testnl.c:2:17: warning: null character(s) preserved in literal [enabled by default]
18:22:40 <orin> `` echo -e '#include "stdio.h"\nint main(){puts("\213");}' >/tmp/testnl.c; gcc /tmp/testnl.c -o /tmp/testnl
18:22:45 <HackEgo> No output.
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18:28:36 <orin> heh. so basically, you can take the raw data you want, replace \ with \\ and " with \", and put it into your c code.
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18:31:40 <orin> I wonder if you could do something like ((int(*)())"data")()
18:32:20 <izabera> and "data" is the compiled function?
18:32:59 <b_jonas> orin: yes, but obviously that's grossly non-portable
18:33:21 <izabera> you mean awesomely non-portable
18:33:44 <b_jonas> I've done things like that in geordi a few times
18:34:28 <b_jonas> mind you, it doesn't work just like that
18:34:36 <b_jonas> because the string will be loaded to a non-executable page
18:34:43 <b_jonas> (on newer cpus where that sort of thing exists)
18:34:49 <b_jonas> so you have to copy it to an mmapped page first
18:34:59 <b_jonas> which is really awkward in geordi, but possible
18:35:39 <shachaf> You can always const char main = {...};
18:35:44 <shachaf> Er, const char main[] = {...};
18:38:54 <b_jonas> oh no! the rumours are true!
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19:10:27 <quintopia> b_jellonas
19:10:44 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:10:47 <HackEgo> diet//People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet.
19:10:57 <shachaf> `howg diet
19:11:03 <HackEgo> ​<tswett> sed -i \'s/lose/loose/\' wisdom/diet \ <tswett> sed -i \'s/loose/lose/\' wisdom/diet \ <int-e> revert accbc9c5c7ec \ <ais523> echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ <oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <oerjan> sed -i \'s/^diets //\' wisdom/diet \ <FireFly> learn diets People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It
19:11:09 <quintopia> hellochaf
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19:12:26 <int-e> `coins
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19:12:38 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:12:52 <HackEgo> study//A study is mostly useless until backed up by further studies. See studies.
19:12:52 <HackEgo> potcoin wilsecoin chatiacoin dumberinicoin mismcoin hallcoin eboutcoin chacoin fractiocoin tnburrocoin brzicoin horianothecoin combcoin codeancoin waddlycoin lyoxcoin borimacoin noilandcoin modatingcoin bucometacoin
19:13:08 <quintopia> shachacoin
19:13:52 <shachaf> `? studies
19:13:53 <HackEgo> Studies show lots of things. Nobody reads them, though. Also: this study contradicts this other study.
19:14:09 <int-e> I was sort of hoping for a diatcoin
19:15:21 <quintopia> int-e: eat your bucometacoin can be happy you're not starving like those kids in china
19:16:40 <int-e> why china?
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19:17:12 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:17:14 <HackEgo> hagb4rd//hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.
19:17:33 <int-e> hmm, apparently they had big trouble in 1959-1961, that might explain a few things
19:17:36 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:17:37 <HackEgo> off by two//An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction.
19:17:47 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:17:48 <HackEgo> i//i love monoids
19:17:51 <shachaf> `howg i
19:17:57 <HackEgo> ​<shachaf> ` for w in wisdom i hppavilion1; do hg cat -r 5714 wisdom/"$w" > wisdom/"$w"; done \ <ZombieCheney> learn I am not a bot \ <oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <ais523> revert 87c64ef250a0 \ <ais523> revert 3 \ <shachaf> learn i love monoids
19:18:01 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/i
19:18:06 <HackEgo> No output.
19:18:43 <FreeFull> Hi
19:20:51 <int-e> Yeah I believe the phrase can be traced to those years.
19:21:27 <quintopia> (y)
19:21:46 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:21:48 <HackEgo> ​¯\(°_o)/¯\(°_o)a//
19:22:02 <shachaf> `cat wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯\(°_o)a
19:22:03 <int-e> `? y
19:22:04 <HackEgo> No output.
19:22:05 <HackEgo> Y is a commune in France. There's nothing funny about this.
19:22:10 <shachaf> `howg ¯\(°_o)/¯\(°_o)a
19:22:14 <HackEgo> ​<oerjan> revert \ <elliott> revert 1 \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do tac "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done
19:22:30 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯\(°_o)a
19:22:33 <HackEgo> No output.
19:22:37 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:22:39 <HackEgo> ​=@ccc//=@ccc is a great innovation in gcc 6, kept top secret, where inline asm statements can return a value in the carry flag on x86_64. See https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-6/changes.html which keeps this secret, https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-6.1.0/gcc/Extended-Asm.html , http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/2238065 .
19:23:21 <int-e> . o O ( learn_append y Just don't ask why. )
19:23:38 <shachaf> y is learn_append space-separated
19:23:54 <int-e> . o O ( But I imagine shachaf would disapprove of that addition. )
19:24:58 <int-e> learn_append predates the trend to chop up text with vicious slashes.
19:25:25 <shachaf> I guess there's le/rn_append
19:25:42 <int-e> `ls le
19:25:43 <HackEgo> rn \ rn_append
19:25:47 <int-e> so there is
19:26:24 <shachaf> Slashes are great.
19:26:37 <shachaf> I kind of want to go through everything and standardize on // separation, though.
19:26:44 <shachaf> It's too confusing to remember what uses / and what uses //
19:26:52 <shachaf> And // is the correct separator anyway.
19:26:53 <int-e> I/T/Y/M//S/l/a/s/h/e/s//a/r/e//g/r/e/a/t/.
19:27:21 <shachaf> quite the itymologist, aren't you
19:27:23 <int-e> We need a command that uses ///
19:27:49 <int-e> ITYM is the best thing since slashed bread.
19:28:18 <shachaf> pooches get smooches
19:28:48 <int-e> (hmm, I could've written b/r/e/a/d)
19:30:40 <int-e> obiously if you end up with //////// then you've sliced the bread too thin
19:32:39 <myname> itym?
19:33:36 <int-e> `? itym
19:33:38 <HackEgo> itym "i think you mean" hth
19:36:55 <shachaf> `? hth
19:36:57 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
19:37:05 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:37:07 <HackEgo> persistence//Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's been around ever since.
19:39:25 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:39:27 <HackEgo> te sting//This is horrible?
19:39:34 <shachaf> `howg te sting
19:39:41 <HackEgo> ​<shachaf> revert \ <shachaf> le/rn Te sting/Did you mean "The sting"? \ <oerjan> le/rn Te sting/This is horrible?
19:40:03 <shachaf> oerjan: what's that all about twh
19:40:04 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:07 <HackEgo> bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it.
19:40:14 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:15 <HackEgo> tanea//Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj.
19:40:35 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:36 <HackEgo> dereduntantation//Dereduntantation is the process of making things less redundant. It is typically done with either regexes or regular expressions.
19:40:45 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:47 <HackEgo> finland//Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus.
19:40:51 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:52 <HackEgo> html//HTML is short for "hope this mess loads".
19:40:57 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:40:59 <HackEgo> wikipedia//Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages.
19:41:04 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:41:05 <HackEgo> morse//-- ..- .-. ... ..- / --- -. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / ..-. . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- ..
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19:52:47 <quintopia> why does corun drives the bus. i feel like fizzie has earned that privilege
19:53:16 <shachaf> fizzie isn't in Finland.
19:54:22 <quintopia> oh
19:54:31 <quintopia> twnh
19:54:53 <quintopia> "fi"zzie is a lie
19:55:03 <shachaf> good point
19:55:08 <shachaf> "Fi"reFly is also a lie
19:55:27 <shachaf> along with "in"t-e
19:57:20 <quintopia> so when did fizzie leave finland
19:59:13 <quintopia> i guess last year?
19:59:42 <quintopia> maybe this year?>
20:00:15 <quintopia> shachaf: do you actually know any more of fizzie's life story than is provided on his website twh?
20:00:23 <shachaf> "twh?"
20:00:32 <shachaf> Are you asking me whether that would help?
20:00:33 <quintopia> should i put it after the ?
20:00:49 <quintopia> punctuation is hard
20:00:55 <quintopia> but that's aside
20:01:01 <quintopia> what do you know
20:01:26 <shachaf> I know only what I've been told.
20:01:52 <quintopia> were you told when fizzie left finland?
20:02:28 <shachaf> I don't remember.
20:02:55 <quintopia> guess we'll ahve to wait
20:02:58 <fizzie> quintopia: January 2015.
20:03:05 <quintopia> ...but not very long
20:03:07 <fizzie> So about a year and a half ago.
20:03:10 <quintopia> fizzie: where are you now
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20:04:01 <quintopia> are you in google homeland
20:04:05 <quintopia> googleville
20:04:06 <fizzie> No, I'm in London.
20:04:08 <quintopia> oh
20:04:12 <quintopia> neat
20:04:17 <shachaf> googleville, london
20:04:18 <shachaf> @metar EGLL
20:04:18 <lambdabot> EGLL 281850Z AUTO 21009KT 150V250 9999 FEW015 20/17 Q1012 NOSIG
20:04:26 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
20:04:26 <lambdabot> KOAK 281853Z 28009KT 10SM FEW018 SCT180 21/13 A2992 RMK AO2 SLP132 T02060128
20:04:29 <shachaf> @metar KPHX
20:04:29 <lambdabot> KPHX 281851Z 05004KT 10SM FEW095 SCT180 SCT250 39/14 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP083 T03940144
20:04:36 <fizzie> 39 sounds scary.
20:04:43 <quintopia> that's phoenix right
20:04:47 <shachaf> Yes.
20:04:51 <quintopia> it's a dry heat. not so bad.
20:04:53 <fizzie> @metar KBOS
20:04:54 <lambdabot> KBOS 281854Z 11008KT 10SM FEW055 OVC200 30/18 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP100 T03000178
20:06:55 <quintopia> fizzie: oh i didn't know you had officially published a page for the GRASP2
20:07:37 <quintopia> it looks a lot like a language i've been working on, but very different design goal
20:22:34 <shachaf> fizzie: Were in you Boston already or is that coming up?
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20:24:39 <shachaf> `? fizzie
20:24:42 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg
20:25:00 <shachaf> `sled fizzie//s#http.*#https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg#
20:25:01 <HackEgo> Rosebud!
20:25:08 <shachaf> HackEgo: same to you
20:25:35 <shachaf> `slwd fizzie//s#http.*#https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg#
20:25:41 <HackEgo> wisdom/fizzie//fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
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20:30:08 <fizzie> shachaf: Boston (well, Cambridge; and then Chicago) is next month.
20:30:31 <shachaf> Cambridge is practically next door.
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20:36:08 <shachaf> fizzie: what sort of build system should i use for things
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21:03:43 <izabera> `` type getopt
21:03:45 <HackEgo> getopt is /usr/bin/getopt
21:04:19 <izabera> `` getopt : a b c
21:04:20 <HackEgo> ​ -- a b c
21:04:23 <izabera> `` getopt -n x : a b c
21:04:25 <HackEgo> ​ -- 'a' 'b' 'c'
21:04:32 <izabera> where is this documented??? D:
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21:10:38 <izabera> i don't know if this is a bug or intentional and i don't know whether to reproduce it in my getopt
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21:20:42 <orin> bash's line editing goes all derpy when I use it through screen
21:22:05 <orin> specifically, it goes all derpy when used through screen, when the command is longer than the width of the terminal
21:22:32 <wob_jonas> orin: are you sure your terminfo is right?
21:23:39 <orin> probably it isn't
21:24:19 <wob_jonas> orin: does bash's readline just fall back to dumb terminal handling, where it outputs only one lineful of your input and refreshes it with \r and \b ?
21:24:30 <wob_jonas> or does it do something else?
21:24:38 <wob_jonas> and does this happen even if your input includes only ascii characters?
21:24:42 <orin> wob_jonas: it sort of jumps all over the screen
21:25:50 <orin> the prompt moves up the screen while my cursor and some of the text remains where it is
21:26:18 <orin> I think it's trying to do something advanced that screen doesn't support
21:26:18 <wob_jonas> orin: what happens if you only have ascii input?
21:26:51 <wob_jonas> orin: also, does it get fixed if you ask screen (but not bash) to redraw the screen? that would help decide if the problem is above or below screen
21:27:22 <wob_jonas> orin: oh, and also, does this persist even after you run some no-op commands in that bash and start a new input line?
21:27:34 <quintopia> so let's talk about a different thing
21:27:44 <orin> If I just type gibberish, it work fine until it reaches the side at which point the cursor stops and nothing else it shown even if I keep typing
21:28:28 <orin> whereas when I press up and down, the prompt jump up while the cursor stays where it is
21:28:40 <wob_jonas> orin: also, try shopt -o checkwinsize
21:28:45 <wob_jonas> then some dummy commands and then try again
21:28:46 <wob_jonas> no wait
21:28:49 <wob_jonas> shopt -s checkwinsize
21:28:55 <wob_jonas> then some dummy commands and then try again
21:29:00 <wob_jonas> (the -o is stupid, don't do that)
21:30:12 <orin> the buggy behaviour persists
21:31:00 <wob_jonas> orin: is it possible that screen is confused about the width of the terminal above it?
21:31:21 <orin> I doubt it, the terminal above it is also a screen
21:31:37 <wob_jonas> ouch
21:31:48 <wob_jonas> how about that screen ?
21:31:53 <orin> There's two screens, and then mac os x's terminal
21:32:29 <wob_jonas> orin: this isn't some ancient buggy version of bash or of ncurses, right?
21:32:33 <orin> basically, terminal -> screen -> ssh -> screen -> bash
21:32:36 <wob_jonas> or of screen for that matter
21:32:41 <wob_jonas> screen used to be buggy too
21:32:50 <wob_jonas> (if you go back enough in time)
21:32:51 <wob_jonas> (I'm old)
21:33:03 <wob_jonas> I don't really have any easy ideas to debug this then
21:33:27 <orin> 4.1.2(1)-release
21:33:40 <orin> that's the version of bash at the endpoint
21:33:55 <wob_jonas> right, that's quite new
21:34:12 <wob_jonas> could the terminfos be messed up? what's the inner TERM that bash sees?
21:34:51 <orin> the inner term is just "screen"
21:35:07 <wob_jonas> good
21:35:11 <wob_jonas> also, strange stuff
21:35:22 <orin> both screens are 4.00.03
21:37:37 <orin> hmm based on googling maybe it's my promt
21:37:48 <wob_jonas> oh! that could explain it
21:38:47 <wob_jonas> change your prompt to PS1=\$\ and start with an input line where the cursor is at the start of the screen line (the previous program hasn't printed an incomplete line),
21:39:27 <wob_jonas> and if you want to use your prompt, add '\[ \]' or whatever the magical marker is to tell about invisible characters in your prompt
21:39:35 <wob_jonas> (like color escape sequences)
21:40:24 <orin> nope, even with PS1='$ ' the behaviour persists
21:42:18 <wob_jonas> dunno then
21:42:47 <orin> actually, the behaviour also occurs in ed!
21:43:27 <wob_jonas> whoa
21:43:49 <orin> maybe something is wrong with the TERM that screen is seeing at the top
21:44:16 <orin> it's "xterm"
21:44:43 <orin> I very much doubt that mac os's temrinal supports all of xterm functionality
21:46:48 <orin> lets try setting it different
21:49:56 <orin> bash works fine through the first screen but not the second.
21:51:23 <orin> which implies that screen's support for the TERM=screen is bad
21:51:56 <orin> fail
21:52:02 <wob_jonas> orin: no, that's not what it implies
21:53:56 <orin> wob_jonas: what does it imply?
21:54:40 <orin> well, I suppose I can try doing without the outer screen
21:55:33 <orin> yeah
21:55:41 <orin> ssh -> screen ->bash works
21:55:54 <orin> screen -> bash works
21:56:13 <orin> but screen -> ssh -> screen -> bash doesn't work
21:57:42 <orin> and screen -> ssh -> bash doesn't work
21:58:53 <orin> somehow ssh doesn't work well with an outer screen when transmitting bash?
22:00:10 <quintopia> i don't understand why you would want to?
22:01:17 <orin> quintopia: so I can have several outer screens (such as this one, and the one to the server), and several inner screens on the server?
22:02:08 <wob_jonas> you can do that, sure. many people use two screens one inside another.
22:02:17 <orin> of course, my irssi is doing screen -> ssh -> tmux -> irssi
22:02:18 <wob_jonas> I rarely do that, but you certainly can do it
22:02:27 <orin> and that seems to have no problems
22:02:46 <orin> it's just the screen that has some porblems
22:03:04 <orin> maybe if I use an outer tmux instead of an outer screen?
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22:33:32 <orin> Ok, using an outer tmux works great
22:33:59 <orin> `? orin
22:34:01 <HackEgo> orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line.
22:34:05 <orin> lol
22:34:32 <orin> `? tmux
22:34:34 <HackEgo> tmux? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:34:39 <orin> `? screen
22:34:40 <HackEgo> screen? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:35:52 <orin> `learn tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having tabs in your terminal.
22:35:57 <HackEgo> Learned 'tmux': tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having tabs in your terminal.
22:36:05 <shachaf> what?
22:36:10 <shachaf> why is that a wisdom entry?
22:36:14 <shachaf> i've half a mind to delete it right now
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22:37:01 <orin> `learn tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having bash barf all over your screen.
22:37:04 <HackEgo> Relearned 'tmux': tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having bash barf all over your screen.
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22:37:31 <shachaf> you should take wisdom lessons from oerjan
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22:38:22 <orin> `? wisdom
22:38:24 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø?
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22:39:14 <shachaf> `slwd wisdom//s#with#with,#
22:39:17 <HackEgo> wisdom/wisdom//wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with, like, an ø?
22:39:44 <orin> `learn tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having bash barf all over your screen. It allows the character 🀤 to appear.
22:39:47 <HackEgo> Relearned 'tmux': tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having bash barf all over your screen. It allows the character 🀤 to appear.
22:39:50 <shachaf> `slwd wisdom//s# uh #, uh, #
22:39:53 <HackEgo> wisdom/wisdom//wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? it started with, like, an ø?
22:40:59 <orin> `? ed
22:41:00 <HackEgo> ed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:41:05 <orin> `? ex
22:41:06 <HackEgo> ex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:41:08 <orin> `? vi
22:41:09 <HackEgo> vi is in a relationship with emacs.
22:41:13 <orin> `? nano
22:41:14 <HackEgo> nano is vi's sister.
22:41:19 <orin> `? emacs
22:41:20 <HackEgo> emacs is the weird brother of nano.
22:41:27 <orin> uh...
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22:42:02 <orin> `? pico
22:42:04 <HackEgo> pico is the useless twin of nano.
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22:42:26 <orin> `cwlprit vi
22:42:27 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cwlprit: not found
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22:45:59 <Sgeo> So, in terms of how expensive one 'mana' is, I think Hearthstone < Magic < Pokemon. Hearthstone gives you guaranteed increase one per turn. Magic has that potential but it relies on actually having a card, also different mana colors complicate things. Pokemon also relies on having a card, but you have to choose what can use it and it's difficult to change that later
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22:47:50 <Phantom_Hoover> ``echo #!/bin/sh > /bin/cwlprit
22:47:50 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found
22:48:03 <Phantom_Hoover> `` echo #!/bin/sh > /bin/cwlprit
22:48:04 <HackEgo> No output.
22:48:10 <shachaf> what are you doing
22:49:33 <Phantom_Hoover> `` echo "culprit $@ | tr ui wy" > /bin/cwlprit
22:49:35 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /bin/cwlprit: Read-only file system
22:49:36 <orin> shachaf: I think he's trying to make a shell scripot
22:49:44 <Phantom_Hoover> im idiot
22:49:52 <Phantom_Hoover> `` echo #!/bin/sh > bin/cwlprit
22:49:53 <HackEgo> No output.
22:49:59 <Phantom_Hoover> `` echo "culprit $@ | tr ui wy" > bin/cwlprit
22:50:01 <HackEgo> No output.
22:50:06 <Phantom_Hoover> `chmod +x bin/cwlprit
22:50:08 <HackEgo> chmod: missing operand after `+x bin/cwlprit' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information.
22:50:14 <shachaf> there are so many broken things in what you're doing, though
22:50:25 <shachaf> `` echo #!/bin/sh
22:50:27 <HackEgo> No output.
22:50:33 <Phantom_Hoover> oh yeah lol
22:50:42 <shachaf> `` echo "culprit $@ | tr ui wy"
22:50:43 <HackEgo> culprit echo "culprit $@ | tr ui wy" | tr ui wy
22:50:46 <orin> `` echo \#
22:50:47 <HackEgo> ​#
22:50:57 <shachaf> why wouldn't you just use mkx
22:51:06 <Phantom_Hoover> the fuck is mkx
22:51:12 <shachaf> this way you make a new hg commit for every line of the script
22:51:13 <shachaf> what a mess
22:51:38 <shachaf> you don't even need the #!/bin/sh line, since +x files are automatically treated as shell scripts
22:51:46 <Phantom_Hoover> i trust that you will tidy it all up
22:52:00 <orin> shachaf: nOwun nOs al thEs tUls yU kEp mAkiG
22:52:10 <shachaf> oerjan does
22:52:24 <orin> `? tools
22:52:25 <HackEgo> tools? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:52:40 <shachaf> i can't tidy up commit history, that's for sure
22:52:57 <shachaf> anyway your escaping was completely broken
22:53:04 <shachaf> and you didn't put quotes around $@, either
22:53:15 <shachaf> LSTM
22:53:47 <shachaf> we should institute mandatory code review for HackEgo
23:23:51 <wob_jonas> what who?
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23:36:03 <quintopia> hello
23:38:14 <izabera> hi
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23:44:01 <quintopia> hello
23:44:07 <quintopia> what do izabera
23:44:17 <izabera> play go?
23:44:21 <izabera> dunno
23:47:21 <quintopia> are you good at it
23:48:17 <izabera> nnnnnootttrreeeeeaaaallllyyyy
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23:49:38 <LKoen> yes quintopia when do you start playing go?
23:49:41 <LKoen> you're long overdue
23:59:34 <quintopia> i suck at it
23:59:40 <quintopia> so
23:59:47 <quintopia> "like maybe never"
2016-07-29
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00:29:04 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
00:29:04 <lambdabot> KOAK 282253Z 29017KT 10SM FEW008 FEW180 21/13 A2986 RMK AO2 SLP112 T02110133
00:29:09 <shachaf> @metar KSJC
00:29:09 <lambdabot> KSJC 282253Z 31009KT 10SM FEW055 BKN110 29/15 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP103 HZ FEW055 FU BKN110 T02940150
00:33:37 <int-e> fungot: please review HackEgo's code
00:33:37 <fungot> int-e: i. possession of all points of all
00:34:00 <shachaf> ^style
00:34:00 <fungot> Available: agora* alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
00:34:05 <shachaf> ^style enron
00:34:05 <fungot> Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset)
00:34:20 <shachaf> fungot: can i get some tax advice
00:34:20 <fungot> shachaf: new generator construction anglelides certain the media for his first few of the 25 top firms at midyear 2001 are consistent and helpful on your toll on to the attached you will find the time to do on an this interview on december
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01:47:35 <boily> `wisdom
01:47:38 <HackEgo> markdown//The markdown flavor of the day is raspberry.
01:49:29 <oerjan> bohily
01:50:36 <oerjan> `slwd markdown//s/rasp.*/walnut./
01:50:41 <HackEgo> wisdom/markdown//The markdown flavor of the day is walnut.
01:50:57 <oerjan> `` ls -l wisdom/password
01:51:00 <HackEgo> ​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 60 Jun 17 02:11 wisdom/password
01:51:07 <shachaf> `? password
01:51:08 <HackEgo> The password of the month is vïskAlikkjesOvab0rtsUmarnatta
01:51:14 <oerjan> as usual, the password of the month is late.
01:51:38 <oerjan> `learn The password of the month is late.
01:51:40 <HackEgo> Relearned 'password': The password of the month is late.
01:52:53 <oerjan> on the bright side, only 3 days until the next one.
01:54:40 <shachaf> `` echo $'#!/usr/bin/python\n\nimport random\nimport string\n\nprint "".join(random.choice(string.ascii_lowercase) for _ in xrange(15))' | python
01:54:44 <HackEgo> nrkawdrcalqluqa
01:54:58 <shachaf> `` echo $'#!/usr/bin/python\n\nimport random\nimport string\n\nprint "".join(random.choice(string.ascii_lowercase) for _ in xrange(15))' > bin/password; chmod +x bin/password
01:55:00 <HackEgo> No output.
01:55:03 <shachaf> `password
01:55:06 <HackEgo> rliyeztipblfanm
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01:55:13 <shachaf> > logBase 2 (26^15)
01:55:15 <lambdabot> 70.50659577211638
01:55:25 <oerjan> `culprits bin/password
01:55:34 <HackEgo> shachaf
01:55:35 <shachaf> oerjan: I checked first, of course.
01:55:44 <oerjan> "of course".
01:56:38 <shachaf> `password
01:56:40 <HackEgo> gccumgyfbkkqwbz
01:56:59 <oerjan> why are all the passwords in georgian
01:57:03 <shachaf> How much entropy do you lose if you generate 5 passwords and pick your favorite out of those?
01:57:21 <shachaf> s/5/n/
01:57:27 <shachaf> `password
01:57:29 <HackEgo> qyjwylmdycehavh
01:57:46 <oerjan> probably logBase 2 5 bits?
01:58:21 * oerjan just hunching
02:04:06 <boily> hellørjan.
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02:05:55 <shachaf> http://inutile.club/estatis/password-security-checker/ says my password is OK.
02:11:21 * oerjan concludes the m and n in b_jonas's gcd problem cannot be less than 11 apart...
02:12:18 <oerjan> also, neither m, n, nor any intervening number can be prime.
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02:19:22 <oerjan> hm 11 doesn't work either
02:23:17 <oerjan> nor 13
02:26:05 <oerjan> nor 15
02:34:29 <int-e> 16 apart works
02:34:39 <oerjan> i'm just checking that.
02:35:13 <int-e> (I didn't try to exclude smaller numbers)
02:35:35 <oerjan> well i already did
02:35:45 <oerjan> p+1 for p prime is also excluded in general
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02:38:09 <int-e> and p^k+1 for the same reason
02:38:15 <oerjan> right
02:38:34 <oerjan> basically n-m-1 must be divisible by at least 2 primes
02:39:03 <oerjan> which m and n then must be divisible by in some order
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02:39:46 <oerjan> right, 16 works. one of m and n can be divisible by 2*3*7*13 and the other by 2*5*11.
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02:41:14 <oerjan> (and indeed, must)
02:41:54 <oerjan> > 2*3*7*13
02:41:55 <lambdabot> 546
02:43:04 <oerjan> > 546*4
02:43:05 <lambdabot> 2184
02:43:08 <int-e> > head [a | a <- [1..], (a*546 + 16) `mod` 110 == 0]
02:43:09 <lambdabot> 4
02:43:21 <oerjan> 2184 and 2200 should work.
02:44:22 <oerjan> > head [a | a <- [1..], (a*546 - 16) `mod` 110 == 0]
02:44:23 <lambdabot> 51
02:44:39 <oerjan> looks like the smallest for 16 apart
02:45:32 <int-e> > let a = 2184; b = 2200 in [gcd n (a*b) | n <- [a..b]]
02:45:34 <lambdabot> [2184,5,2,3,4,11,30,7,16,3,2,5,12,13,14,3,2200]
02:46:30 * oerjan goes back to the logs to see if anyone solved it there
02:47:08 <oerjan> of course this does not prove they're the smallest m and n
02:52:42 <int-e> > head [(a,b) | b <- [1..], a <- b [1..b-2], all ((>1) . gcd (a*b)) [a..b]]
02:52:43 <lambdabot> Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: t ~ [t] -> [t1]
02:52:43 <lambdabot> Relevant bindings include
02:52:43 <lambdabot> b :: [t] -> [t1] (bound at <interactive>:1:15)
02:53:16 <int-e> > head [(a,b) | b <- [1..], a <- [1..b-2], all ((>1) . gcd (a*b)) [a..b]]
02:53:20 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
02:53:43 <int-e> okay! but it does finish in 10 seconds in my local ghci :)
02:55:44 <shachaf> int-e: please increase lambdabot timeout twh
02:57:09 <oerjan> > head [(a,b) | b <- [40..], a <- [b`div`2..b-16], all ((>1) . gcd (a*b)) [a..b]]
02:57:13 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
02:57:22 <oerjan> didn't help enough
03:01:08 <oerjan> > head [(a,b) | b <- [40..], a <- [b`div`2..b-16], all ((>1) . gcd (a*b)) (a+1):(b-1):[a+2..b-2]]
03:01:10 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Bool’ with actual type ‘[Bool]’
03:01:10 <lambdabot> In the expression:
03:01:10 <lambdabot> all ((> 1) . gcd (a * b)) (a + 1) : (b - 1) : [a + 2 .. b - 2]
03:01:13 <oerjan> darn
03:01:26 <oerjan> > head [(a,b) | b <- [40..], a <- [b`div`2..b-16], all ((>1) . gcd (a*b)) $ (a+1):(b-1):[a+2..b-2]]
03:01:30 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
03:01:35 <oerjan> *sigh*
03:07:25 <oerjan> looks a lot like the same solution, anyway
03:07:51 <int-e> sorry, I intended to mention that
03:08:36 <int-e> > 51*546
03:08:37 <lambdabot> 27846
03:08:48 <oerjan> i guess larger differences either heap on larger factors, or are simply impossible.
03:08:55 <oerjan> so it does make sense.
03:09:58 <oerjan> > let a = 27830; b = 27846 in [gcd n (a*b) | n <- [a..b]]
03:09:59 <lambdabot> [27830,3,28,13,6,5,4,9,2,7,60,11,2,3,4,5,27846]
03:10:19 <int-e> (I'm computing the second solution and it appears it's just another one with difference 16. Not very surprising indeed.)
03:10:32 <oerjan> oh that _was_ the second one?
03:10:42 <oerjan> well i guess it would be.
03:10:55 <int-e> it's still computing :P
03:10:58 <oerjan> it's just so much larger, so it was lucky the first one was small.
03:11:06 <int-e> but it's now at 27000
03:11:11 <oerjan> ah
03:11:32 <int-e> (I'm using that stupid program with no optimizations)
03:11:48 <oerjan> hm food ->
03:11:58 <int-e> [(2184,2200),(27830,27846)]
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03:12:46 <int-e> uh, I didn't even compile with -O, now that was stupid.
03:13:31 <hppavilion[1]> I'm trying to analyze the mechanism behind https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F0d0vp3&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B8
03:14:03 <hppavilion[1]> Obviously the spike is bigger in September every year because people are more interested on 9/11 (and all the new people learning about it)
03:14:23 <hppavilion[1]> But there's a bigger spike every 5 years, it appears (though I only have 2 data points)
03:14:52 <hppavilion[1]> If it spikes again this year, um... I don't know
03:16:39 <pikhq> 5 and 10 year anniversaries.
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03:37:34 <oerjan> int-e: looks like 22 is the next possible distance
03:37:49 <oerjan> 2*3*11*13*19 vs. 2*5*7*11*17
03:38:02 <oerjan> > (2*3*11*13*19, 2*5*7*11*17)
03:38:04 <lambdabot> (16302,13090)
03:38:15 <oerjan> oh wait
03:38:27 <oerjan> oh right
03:38:59 <oerjan> 22 must be a common factor of both, but that's ok because they have no others.
03:39:35 <shachaf> `? php
03:39:39 <HackEgo> php is the PigeonHole Principle
03:39:48 <shachaf> no pooch?
03:40:09 <oerjan> surprisingly, i don't think i used php here
03:40:43 <shachaf> pikhq is an expert in pooches
03:40:47 <shachaf> and also pokemon
03:41:30 <oerjan> :t egcd
03:41:31 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘egcd’
03:41:31 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant ‘gcd’ (imported from Prelude)
03:41:54 <pikhq> Mostly Pokemon though.
03:43:12 <oerjan> > head [a | a <- [1..], (a*16302 + 22) `mod` 13090 `elem` [0,44]]
03:43:13 <lambdabot> 216
03:43:35 <int-e> oerjan: yes, then 34, 36, 46, 56, 64, 66, 70, 76, 78, 86, 88,92,94,96,100... or so my computer claims.
03:43:41 <oerjan> > 216*16302 `mod` 13090
03:43:43 <lambdabot> 22
03:45:10 <oerjan> let a = b-22; b = 216*16302 in [gcd n (a*b) | n <- [a..b]]
03:45:25 <oerjan> oops
03:45:28 <oerjan> > let a = b-22; b = 216*16302 in [gcd n (a*b) | n <- [a..b]]
03:45:30 <lambdabot> [3521210,3,4,19,18,5,32,21,2,13,60,121,2,9,56,5,6,17,4,3,10,7,3521232]
03:45:51 <oerjan> quite a lot bigger
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03:47:56 <int-e> damn, is there an obvious reason why odd numbers can't work?
03:48:06 <int-e> (as difference of a and b)
03:48:08 <oerjan> hm good question
03:49:37 <oerjan> my other question is whether there's a distance that has more than one "pattern" of pairs of sufficient factors
03:49:45 <int-e> ah, no there isn't.
03:49:51 <int-e> 903 works.
03:50:07 <oerjan> because it seemed somewhat accidental that it was unique for 16 and 22
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03:51:16 <oerjan> int-e: i guess it's just rare then. when the distance is even you can handle half the numbers in between by letting m and n be even.
03:51:31 <oerjan> which was necessary for both 16 and 22.
03:51:52 <oerjan> so with odd distance you might get conflicting requirements that both m and n are even.
03:53:04 <orin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9FLG2FTjo
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03:54:22 * oerjan wonders why he keeps clicking on orin's links, it's not my kind of music at all
03:54:40 <oerjan> but then, i'm old.
03:55:56 <int-e> oerjan: yeah, they are quite rare. I have: 903, 2545, 4533, 5067, among the almost 1.4k possible differences up to 6500.
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04:01:52 <int-e> oerjan: oh next question (no clue, not even heuristically): can the difference be a prime?
04:02:23 <oerjan> heh
04:06:19 <oerjan> hm distance 23 fails because it's forced to use 11 from both ends, not 2.
04:06:59 <oerjan> there's only that one intermediate number that breaks, 11 from the wrong side.
04:15:04 <oerjan> 27 is similar with 13.
04:16:08 <oerjan> although it both cases the contradiction gets driven by the number with factor 2 "absorbing" all the other factors, until it tries to absorb the other side's unique factor.
04:16:12 <oerjan> *in
04:32:50 <int-e> anyway http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/10k lists the possible differences up to 10000; the odd ones are: 903 2545 4533 5067 8759 9071 9269
04:34:46 <oerjan> i thought 31 would be complicated with 30 being the first with 3 prime factors, but you get an easy contradiction from 31 = 4+27 = 25+6.
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04:45:40 <oerjan> 34 still has a unique pattern.
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04:56:39 <oerjan> ah 36 does have several patterns
04:58:30 <oerjan> the main parts are 2*3*5*11*31 vs. 2*3*7*29, but then which gets 13 vs. 23 and 17 vs. 19 can be chosen freely
05:01:06 <oerjan> because those primes get used only in symmetric pairs not affecting anything else
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05:37:48 <oerjan> <shachaf> oerjan: what's that all about twh <-- um, i guess i was te sting?
05:38:23 <shachaf> oerjan "te sting" johansen
05:38:27 <shachaf> our pal
05:38:42 <oerjan> `? oerjan
05:38:46 <HackEgo> Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
05:38:52 <oerjan> `? ørjan
05:38:54 <HackEgo> Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
05:41:01 <oerjan> `slwd oerjan/s/articled cackling/interjecting/
05:41:03 <HackEgo> usage: sled file//script
05:41:09 <oerjan> `slwd oerjan//s/articled cackling/interjecting/
05:41:12 <HackEgo> wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious interjecting zombie øverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
05:41:16 <zzo38> Someone made up a unofficial Magic: the Gathering card which says choose one-- counter target emblem - destroy target emblem. Of course it won't work (an emblem cannot be in the stack or battlefield)
05:41:42 <shachaf> @karma one
05:41:42 <lambdabot> one has a karma of -8
05:41:44 <shachaf> one++
05:47:35 <lifthrasiir> @karma lambdabot
05:47:35 <lambdabot> lambdabot has a karma of 31
05:47:39 <lifthrasiir> lambdabot--
05:47:54 * lifthrasiir is a natural born karma neutralizer
05:48:07 <shachaf> @karma shachaf
05:48:07 <lambdabot> You have a karma of 94
05:48:14 <shachaf> Most of that karma came from oerjan's meddling.
05:48:17 <lifthrasiir> can I use `shachaf /= 2`?
05:48:19 <shachaf> @karma-all
05:48:19 <lambdabot> blah 31337
05:48:19 <lambdabot> egrep 31337
05:48:19 <lambdabot> nobody 2000
05:48:19 <lambdabot> c/c 1639
05:48:19 <lambdabot> g 898
05:48:21 <lambdabot> ( 729
05:48:23 <lambdabot> + 523
05:48:25 <lambdabot> jrvc 348
05:48:27 <lambdabot> ##c 227
05:48:29 <lifthrasiir> wat
05:48:29 <lambdabot> "c 159
05:48:31 <lambdabot> VC 154
05:48:33 <lambdabot> Notepad 150
05:48:36 <shachaf> I think that top entry came from my meedling followed by ion's meddling.
05:48:43 <shachaf> meddling
05:48:47 <lifthrasiir> is the lambdabot karma global to the network?
05:49:00 <shachaf> You mean, as opposed to per-channel?
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05:57:36 <oerjan> `? ed
05:57:37 <HackEgo> ed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
05:58:42 <oerjan> `learn ed is the standard editor.
05:58:46 <HackEgo> Learned 'ed': ed is the standard editor.
05:59:23 <oerjan> um
05:59:28 <oerjan> `learn ed is the standard text editor.
05:59:32 <HackEgo> Relearned 'ed': ed is the standard text editor.
06:55:12 <izabera> do these look like 100M unbiased dice rolls? https://arin.ga/eiBlTO/raw
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07:24:16 <oerjan> `cat bin/cwlprit
07:24:17 <HackEgo> culprit echo "culprit $@ | tr ui wy" > bin/cwlprit | tr ui wy
07:24:30 <oerjan> `cat bin/culprit
07:24:31 <HackEgo> cat: bin/culprit: No such file or directory
07:24:36 <oerjan> `rm bin/cwlprit
07:24:38 <HackEgo> No output.
07:25:12 <oerjan> if i weren't retired, i might try to guess what e was trying to do.
07:27:22 <shachaf> I can guess.
07:27:29 <shachaf> But it was a broken attempt in many ways.
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09:14:17 <hppavilion[2]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rap#History
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10:46:47 <hppavilion[2]> New rule: From now on, "Glottal stop" must be pronounced in a cockney accent ("Glo'al stop")
10:50:26 <izabera> how often do you pronounce it?
10:52:18 <int-e> `` echo bin/*pryt*
10:52:23 <HackEgo> bin/*pryt*
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11:02:19 <izabera> who removed all the pryts >:O
11:03:04 <int-e> I was checking for cwlpryts
11:03:45 <izabera> there are none
11:03:47 <izabera> apparently
11:09:22 <b_jonas> hppavilion[2]: or pronounce it like "'otel staff"
11:11:15 <b_jonas> hmm no, that doesn't work
11:11:32 <b_jonas> glottal has the stress on first syllable, and hotel on second syllable. stupid English.
11:16:44 <hppavilion[2]> I changed the radio which is usually playing classical music to Christian Talk Radio as a joke directed at my dad's boyfriend
11:17:02 <hppavilion[2]> I just walked by and a host was citing some effect in marriage that I'm now curious about
11:17:07 <hppavilion[2]> Curse you, interesting claims!
11:21:00 <int-e> . o O ( sorry to rein in your parade )
11:21:42 <int-e> (I'm not sure what to do with this idiomatic pun)
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12:07:17 <HackEgo> haar measure//A Haar measure is what Dutch people use to find out how long their hair is.
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14:19:01 <Jafet> <int-e> anyway http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/10k lists the possible differences up to 10000 <-- presumably there's a fast way to compute these?
14:28:05 <int-e> Jafet: presumably, I used a naive approach to encode them as SAT problems, and minisat.
14:28:22 <int-e> but actually most of the time is now spent on generating the problem and parsing.
14:29:57 <int-e> (I could use the C bindings for minisat to save a lot of time, but it's quite possible that a direct non-DPLL search would actually be faster in most cases)
14:41:01 <Jafet> that would explain why my attempt has been unsatisfactory
14:41:22 <int-e> Jafet: the encoding looks like this: http://sprunge.us/CRTW ... basically ap says that the prime p divides a and bp says the same thing about b. The example is for n = 16. (actually the first clause, -a2 \/ -b2, looks dodgy but it turns out to be harmless)
14:44:44 <int-e> (and there's room for optimization... I could drop all the even numbers because a2 \/ b2 is easy to satisfy)
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14:49:37 <int-e> and http://sprunge.us/bHWc?hs is my code (takes n on the command line; produces dimacs format SAT problem on stdout)
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14:59:29 <baordog> Good morning.
14:59:52 <baordog> So, this is sort of a C question but I thought you guys might be helpful here.
15:00:24 <baordog> I want to make a C program that is obfuscated by reusing it's instructions out of alignment.
15:00:50 <baordog> Has anyone already done this and automated the process of writing the program?
15:09:48 <int-e> C is the wrong level for this, but malware authors and security researchers looking for gadgets for return-oriented programming have automated that process; basically finding unintended useful code in the binary of an ordinary program (or preferrably a library)
15:10:19 <Sgeo> @messages-loud
15:10:19 <lambdabot> quintopia said 2d 23h 53m 16s ago: pbf updated
15:10:51 <int-e> It has not really been a topic here, I think. (And my knowledge extends as far as that such automation exists, not how it's done in detail.)
15:12:28 <baordog> Oh I'm familiar with the security version of this :)
15:12:35 * baordog is a security researcher
15:12:51 <baordog> I was hoping there was maybe, an easier way to accomplish it being the author of the code.
15:13:04 <baordog> Because it's a much more controllable situation.
15:13:32 <baordog> I'm just trying to make code obfuscation problems for my friends ^_^ did befunge yesterday.
15:13:41 <baordog> Can't find a good trefunge implementation.
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15:25:01 <Jafet> int-e: ah, adding unit propagation helps.
15:25:17 <Jafet> I suspect that I may have reinvented DPLL...
15:26:41 <Jafet> http://sprunge.us/abGE
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15:40:20 <int-e> baordog: I guess if it's your own code that gives you the opportunity to tweak magical constants when you find a (misaligned) piece of code that almost does what you want... but on the whole I would expect C compilers to be far too unpredictable for this to help much.
15:40:49 <int-e> That said, I've never got my hands dirty in this area so I really don't have a good feeling for what's hard and what's easy.
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15:42:52 <int-e> Jafet: an easy heuristic in these search problems is to make a decision that has the least number of possible choices left... unit propagation is an important special case of that.
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16:04:20 <orin> AAAAA I just want to sink the Farallon Islands into the depths of the pacific! why do they have to exist aaaaaaaaaaaaa
16:05:29 <orin> please, someone just boil those islands down to nothing
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16:08:36 <orin> they mess up the boundaries of San francisco so when my users ask for a map of san francisco they get a bunch of bullshit water
16:09:20 <orin> and an island with nothing on it
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16:10:38 <int-e> orin: how is that affecting your life?
16:11:00 <orin> int-e: bug reports from everyone who lives in SF!
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16:11:48 <orin> what am supposed to tell them "your city council are a bunch of morons"
16:12:41 <orin> "error between governor and mayor"
16:15:03 <int-e> ooh, boiling down is perfectly in line of the dehydration thread!
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16:21:01 <orin> Apparently the Farallon islands have sunken nuclear waste nearby
16:21:55 <orin> Their idea of disposal at the time was to laod a ship covered in nuke debris with waste and then scuttle it a few km off the island
16:24:58 <izabera> who thinks that sshfs should rewrite symlinks with absolute targets?
16:25:56 <int-e> I honestly have not given the semantics of symlinks on sshfs much thought.
16:26:54 <int-e> But I guess it really shouldn't... just because a fs subtree is mounted elsewhere that generally doesn't change the symlinks.
16:27:19 <izabera> not rewriting them breaks everything
16:27:31 <int-e> "everything"
16:27:40 <int-e> I seriously doubt that.
16:27:48 <izabera> it killed my dog
16:27:56 <int-e> possibly
16:28:28 <int-e> oh did you call your dog "everything"? I'm sorry for you loss. A little.
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18:26:47 <izabera> `unidecode ༽ด็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้ I
18:27:02 <HackEgo> ​[U+0F3D TIBETAN MARK ANG KHANG GYAS] [U+0E14 THAI CHARACTER DO DEK] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E49 THAI CHARACTER MAI THO] [U+0E49 THAI CHARACTER MAI THO] [U+0E49 THAI CHARACTER MAI THO] [U+0E49 THAI
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18:52:56 <orin> izabera: where did you copy that form?
18:53:42 <orin> `unidecode ༽ด็็ I
18:53:45 <HackEgo> ​[U+0F3D TIBETAN MARK ANG KHANG GYAS] [U+0E14 THAI CHARACTER DO DEK] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0E47 THAI CHARACTER MAITAIKHU] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I]
18:54:17 <orin> nad how come my terminal shows somthing different than what Hackygo sees
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20:05:43 <nortti> looking for name for an encoding. single-byte, identical to jis x 0201 until 0xE0 with exception of 0x7E and 0x7F being ← and →, then continues αäβεμδρ
20:18:05 <orin> nortti: sounds like a code page for a japanese 8 bit machine
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21:13:49 <fizzie> I think I had a script (or maybe just a shell oneliner) somewhere that could look up through everything supported by the system's iconv ("iconv -l") and display which ones matched given constraints like that.
21:13:59 <fizzie> Don't know where I put it, though it's not hard to reimplement.
21:14:38 <nortti> ooh
21:17:11 <fizzie> It's pretty much just iconv -l | ... | while read enc; do if diff -q <(printf '\x12\x34\x56...' | iconv -f $enc -t utf-8) <(echo "αäβ...") >/dev/null; then echo $enc; fi; done
21:17:15 <fizzie> Or something like that anyway.
21:17:31 <fizzie> I may have gotten diff's exit status completely the wrong way around.
21:19:26 <fizzie> Also that has a newline problem, and probably could be done better. Anyway, the gist is there.
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21:58:13 <orin> ok for the life of me I cannot understand what determines whether an 'a' in an english word will be transliterated into a ア or a ャ
21:58:56 <wob_jonas> orin: could it depend on the pronunciation and surrounding sounds in English?
21:58:58 <orin> catch -> キャッチ cast -> カースト
21:59:26 <orin> there's kind of a minimal pair
22:00:05 <orin> atsh results in ya, whereas ast results in aa
22:00:35 <wob_jonas> orin: that doesn't count, cast can be pronounced with /ɑː/ or /æ/ depending on dialect
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22:01:43 <orin> Maybe that's what causes it
22:02:09 <wob_jonas> orin: since half of Britain pronounces it /ɑː/, that could cause them to transliterate with aa
22:02:31 <orin> maybe the dialect of english that katakana spelling is based on is a british one
22:02:50 <wob_jonas> half of british. If I understand correctly, not all Brits do that.
22:03:30 <wob_jonas> see http://english.stackexchange.com/q/276763/32815 , it's something I understood only quite recently: I've heard many of words pronounced both ways, but didn't put the whole thing together
22:04:15 <orin> barn -> バーン , so clearly it's non-rhotic
22:04:54 <orin> (rhotic should result in something like バウン)
22:06:52 <orin> you could actually call it a dialect of english
22:09:42 <wob_jonas> ok, now let me look at the tetris exhibition videos from ESA
22:09:47 <wob_jonas> played by qlex
22:09:55 <wob_jonas> (while the rest of the team was in SGDQ)
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22:14:03 <shachaf> Taneb: diagrams is "p nifty huh"
22:14:13 <Taneb> Yes
22:14:57 <shachaf> One time I made http://slbkbs.org/out.svg
22:15:33 <shachaf> Generated automatically from a function.
22:15:36 <shachaf> Or maybe even other relations?
22:15:53 <Taneb> Very nice!
22:15:56 <shachaf> Well, the thing at the bottom is an antifunction.
22:16:40 <shachaf> domain-coimage-image-codomain
22:16:47 <Taneb> https://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/Heap.svg
22:16:50 <shachaf> identify-rename-adjoin
22:17:26 <Taneb> That is a representation of the structure of a rank-biased leftist heap
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22:18:52 <orin> oh what the heck? some people apparently don't pronounce the l in palm or almond?
22:20:21 <orin> palm -> パーム not パルム
22:20:38 <Taneb> orin, I don't in palm
22:20:40 <Taneb> Do in almon
22:20:41 <Taneb> d
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22:22:20 <orin> アーモンド <- what even is this, "amond" where did the l go
22:22:25 <nortti> orin: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/palm#Pronunciation suggests non-l as the more widespread
22:22:45 <nortti> same with https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/almond#Pronunciation
22:23:02 <shachaf> Taneb: how about "napalm"
22:23:04 <nortti> what dialect do you speak?
22:23:20 <Taneb> shachaf, no l
22:23:31 <Taneb> nortti, I'm from northern England
22:23:38 <orin> "napom"
22:23:42 <Taneb> napaaahm
22:23:43 <orin> what?
22:24:02 <shachaf> how about "salmonella"
22:24:16 <nortti> Taneb: meant to ask orin
22:24:18 <shachaf> apparently some people pronounce the "l" in "dalmatian"
22:24:18 <Taneb> shachaf, the first l, I presume?
22:24:30 <Taneb> In salmonella, that is
22:24:35 <Taneb> I sometimes pronounce it but not always
22:24:37 <orin> shachaf: who. who doesnt? gaaaaa
22:24:42 <Taneb> I generally don't when I'm hungry
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22:24:51 <Taneb> And thinking of salmon
22:25:07 <shachaf> how about "salmiakki"?
22:25:19 <Taneb> I don't know that word
22:25:27 <shachaf> it's a finnish word
22:25:29 <orin> /sæl.mn/
22:25:37 <shachaf> @google salmiakki
22:25:38 <lambdabot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice
22:26:06 <shachaf> "Salty liquorice is an acquired taste[1]"
22:26:25 <orin> wait, what's ipa for mn where n is the nucleus of the sylable?
22:27:14 <shachaf> what does beer have to do with this
22:27:19 <shachaf> apparently some people pronounce the "l" in "pale"
22:27:39 <shachaf> Taneb: do you pronounce the "l" in "sauzzled"?
22:27:50 <orin> pale is identical to pail in prnounciation
22:27:53 <Taneb> shachaf, yes but not in the right place
22:28:36 <orin> like ale but with a p
22:28:51 <shachaf> apparently some people pronounce the "l" in "ale"
22:30:22 <int-e> gcc--
22:30:22 <shachaf> Taneb: You ought to get your own domain name so your URLs will be permanent.
22:30:33 <orin> shachaf: gaaa how would you pronounce it without the l? just /eɪ/
22:30:35 <orin> ?
22:30:45 <Taneb> shachaf, I had one for a bit but then didn't do anything with it
22:30:45 <shachaf> orin: i'm not canadian hth
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22:32:57 <int-e> apparently it's a bad idea these days to write void *calloc(size_t n, size_t s) { void *r = malloc(n*s); if (r) memset(r, 0, s*t); return r; }
22:33:32 <shachaf> Bad as in incorrect?
22:33:35 <int-e> because gcc will helpfully optimize that to void *calloc(size_t n, size_t s) { return calloc(n*s); }
22:33:43 <shachaf> Ah.
22:33:47 <int-e> err, calloc(n,s)
22:33:47 <orin> int-e: WOT
22:33:51 <shachaf> I've heard of similar things with implementations of memset.
22:34:28 <int-e> I mean, this whole idea of having one's own malloc/calloc is obviously dodgy (and not compliant by any means) but this code had been working fine for decades...
22:35:11 <orin> why does calloc take two arguments anyway?
22:35:21 <shachaf> Having one's own malloc is perfectly legitimate.
22:35:27 <int-e> ...and it was very annoying to track down (the infinite loop manifested inside a call to gethostbyname of all places... and I didn't look closely enough at where the calloc actually came from.)
22:36:19 <nortti> orin: afaiu, it's meant for allocating arrays, you give number of elements and size of element
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22:59:46 <int-e> This may actually save precious code space on processors with no built-in multiplication operation.
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23:00:57 <shachaf> What about fwrite and fread?
23:01:02 <shachaf> Why do those take two arguments?
23:01:30 <int-e> that makes more sense... there the arguments denote a granularity for the write/read operation.
23:02:03 <izabera> they take 2 args to return the number of elements they wrote/read
23:02:29 <wob_jonas> orin: I think it gets two arguments so it can have a multiplication overflow checking built in
23:03:04 <int-e> I mean it makes sense for files that are organized a fixed-sized records of data.
23:03:08 <int-e> These have become rare.
23:03:29 <shachaf> But I usually want to know the number of bytes read or written.
23:03:36 <shachaf> But maybe the number of items is good enough.
23:04:13 <izabera> you want to know that when you're writing a string
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23:25:27 <boily> `wisdom
23:25:34 <shachaf> `wisdom
23:25:42 <boily> hellochaf!
23:25:42 <HackEgo> itidus20//itidus20's entry has been censored.
23:25:43 <HackEgo> ramen//拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。
23:25:50 <shachaf> `wisdom
23:25:50 <shachaf> `wisdom
23:25:51 <shachaf> `wisdom
23:26:05 <HackEgo> webcarting//webcarting is not dissimilar to Mario Kart, but uses real, remote-controlled go-karts. Participants describe it as "the outlandish spectacle of real go-karting combined with the thrill and immersion of Mario Kart".
23:26:06 <HackEgo> ​ørjan//Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
23:26:06 <HackEgo> title//Titles J. K. Rowling had specifically denied on her webpage would be the titles of the sixth or seventh Harry Potter book are: Harry Potter and the{ Green Flame Torch, Mountain of Fantasy, Fortress of Shadows, Forest of Shadows, Graveyard of Memories, Pyramids of Furmat, Pillar of Storgé, Toenail of Icklibõgg}.
23:26:10 <int-e> `culprits wisdom/itidus20
23:26:18 <HackEgo> oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull elliott oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan elliott nitia
23:26:31 <boily> Icklibõgg :D
23:27:10 <wob_jonas> oh, title was me
23:27:22 <shachaf> Of course it was.
23:27:30 <izabera> is there a non-racy way to send a signal to a process but only if you're its parent?
23:27:59 <wob_jonas> izabera: just make sure you don't wait for it, then its pid won't disappear
23:28:06 <wob_jonas> also don't ignore SIGCLD
23:28:21 <shachaf> wob_jonas: What happens if someone else attaches to it from a debugger and becomes its parent?
23:28:24 <shachaf> Does that happen?
23:28:27 <shachaf> I can't remember anymore.
23:28:43 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I dunno how that works.
23:31:46 <izabera> http://www.something.com/
23:32:57 <boily> izabellora. that's something.
23:33:18 <izabera> ikr :D
23:33:48 <shachaf> http://www.sourcereal.com/ is also something.
23:34:14 <boily> what the fungot is that...
23:34:14 <fungot> boily: in the next to the sheet that you send to the court on the grounds of. peace of the modifications of existing power plants.
23:34:24 <izabera> "Thank you for viewing this Cereal Chart" i love it
23:34:41 <boily> there's also this: http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/
23:36:00 <izabera> i love this chan
23:42:52 <izabera> http://www.something.com/tanks.html
23:46:51 <boily> that reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racetrack_(game) . we played that a little bit too much during school :D
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23:49:19 <izabera> not interesting unless there's a physics engine to render spectacular collisions
23:50:38 <izabera> i didn't buy a top notch video card for nothing!
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00:01:15 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] <hppavilion[2]> New rule: From now on, "Glottal stop" must be pronounced in a cockney accent ("Glo'al stop") <-- just as long as you do the equivalent with "uvular trill" and "alveolar trill" twh *MWAHAHAHA*
00:01:15 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:01:59 * oerjan in relevant news seems to have developed this weird jealousy of édith piaf.
00:03:08 <oerjan> also, i found a nice proof of the figure 8 thing, which may or may not be what everyone else knows but in any case seems to generalize like heck topologically.
00:04:22 <shachaf> what's your nice proof
00:04:45 <oerjan> first, pick a countable dense sequence x_n in the plane.
00:05:48 <oerjan> then, for each figure 8 in your set, and for each component it splits its complement into, pick an element in the sequence from that complement. (you can do this without choice.)
00:06:14 <oerjan> then, disjoint figure 8s cannot pick the same triple.
00:06:35 <oerjan> so you have an explicit bijection with a countable set QED
00:08:37 <oerjan> this generalizes like heck because the only thing you use (modulo _maybe_ some weak topological axiom) is (1) R^2 is connected and has a countable dense subset (2) figure 8s are closed connected sets whose complement has at least 3 connected components.
00:11:25 <boily> `quote fricative
00:11:27 <HackEgo> 1091) <Koen_> nooodl: when my girlfriend asks me to give her uvular fricative I'm pretty sure that's not what she means
00:11:52 <oerjan> amourrrrrrrrrr
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00:12:02 <oerjan> hi boily
00:12:09 <boily> amhellørrrrrrrrrjanur.
00:12:50 <oerjan> do québécois often trill their rs
00:13:16 <oerjan> i understand the fricative is more common in the francophonie
00:14:16 <shachaf> there's nothing phonie about boily's french hth
00:14:44 * oerjan waits for the inevitable measurement
00:17:56 <boily> oerjan: depends on which région you come from. most don't hth
00:18:18 * boily *THWACKS* shachaf. 0.86 shachafs.
00:18:37 <oerjan> good show
00:18:57 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:18:59 <HackEgo> fabric of reality//The fabric of reality is *not* plaid corduroy, no matter what evil tongues say.
00:19:11 <shachaf> `cwlprits fabric of reality
00:19:20 <HackEgo> oerjan
00:19:23 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:19:24 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:19:24 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:19:25 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:19:31 <boily> `wisdom
00:19:35 <HackEgo> wumpus//Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it's chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI.
00:19:40 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa, you can't 6-wisdom it
00:19:42 <shachaf> that's spam
00:19:46 <HackEgo> ridicule//A ridicule is a tiny particle composed of bad jokes.
00:19:46 <HackEgo> conspirabiology//conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages.
00:19:49 <HackEgo> structsubural type//Something Bike is into. Not to be confused with suburban destruction.
00:19:50 <HackEgo> hallucination//You are just imagining this wisdom entry.
00:20:17 <shachaf> I thought a ridicule was a kind of bag?
00:21:13 <boily> no, you're thinking of a baguette hth
00:21:45 <shachaf> whoa whoa whoa
00:21:46 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baguette_(bag)
00:22:11 <shachaf> Clearly not a tanebvention.
00:22:20 <boily> wut.
00:22:29 <oerjan> shachaf: are you saying baguettes involve sex
00:22:30 <boily> I was simply badpunning there.
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00:22:40 <shachaf> oerjan: that's what wikipedia says hth
00:22:42 <boily> I didn't know there was such a thing...
00:23:03 <oerjan> ah. i hadn't clicked.
00:23:07 * boily shouldn't pun. it may spawn tanebventions
00:23:33 <oerjan> what's wrong with spawning tanebventions, except that they're intrinsically incompatible with spawning
00:23:47 <boily> Taneb: Tanelle. do you spawn?
00:23:58 <shachaf> oerjan: Presumably Taneb has no problem with asexual reproduction.
00:24:03 <oerjan> shachaf: hm true.
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00:30:25 <oerjan> hm my generalization depends on a theorem that we used all the time in some of our articles, but which doesn't seem to be mentioned in wikipedia's Connected space article
00:31:09 <shachaf> Our?
00:31:18 <shachaf> You and your pal?
00:31:24 <oerjan> (namely: the complement of a component of the complement of a connected set in a connected space is connected.)
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00:31:33 <oerjan> Alf Rustad, in this case.
00:32:44 <oerjan> or, to use a terminology you'll like, the co-components of a connected set are co-connected.
00:33:04 <quintopia> coily
00:33:16 <quintopia> i got your package back
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00:33:29 <quintopia> return to sender: unclaimed
00:33:39 <oerjan> quintopia: *GASP*
00:34:17 <quintopia> oerjan: given how time and money went into shipping it, i agree
00:34:32 <quintopia> i guess i have to eat the 43 dollars
00:35:13 <boily> WUT???
00:35:23 <boily> what the...
00:35:27 <boily> NO :(
00:36:34 <shachaf> Is that 43 dollars or 43 CAD?
00:38:13 <oerjan> <int-e> I was checking for cwlpryts <-- i think someone might be insulting your naming schemes, shachaf
00:38:23 <shachaf> oerjan: excuse me?
00:38:26 <shachaf> you started the w thing
00:38:35 <boily> ŵrjan?
00:38:42 <oerjan> i also have a memory like a sieve.
00:38:54 <int-e> oerjan: it had nothing to do with shachaf directly. I just applied the tr command (in context) to "culprit".
00:39:01 <oerjan> aha.
00:39:15 <shachaf> the cwlpryt chrwnycles
00:39:29 <oerjan> int-e: did you see my figure 8 proof twh
00:39:31 <quintopia> shachaf: usd
00:39:48 <int-e> oerjan: no, I let it scroll away, since I wanted to think about the problem first.
00:39:55 <oerjan> ah.
00:40:00 <int-e> but right now I'm doing other things...
00:40:50 <oerjan> now i'm wondering if something similar can work for the T shapes - but the obvious thing doesn't.
00:42:02 <oerjan> hm oh wait
00:42:38 <oerjan> a small modification, and it does.
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00:44:23 <oerjan> in fact, i think you need only a pair rather than a triple there.
00:45:30 <quintopia> wat
00:45:59 <oerjan> quintopia: i've been thinking a bit about the problems wob_jonas (?) mentioned recently
00:46:19 <wob_jonas> oerjan: which one?
00:46:31 <oerjan> wob_jonas: the figure 8 and T-shape ones.
00:47:01 <oerjan> my proof for the first can be adapted (and simplified) for the second, it seems.
00:47:17 <wob_jonas> oerjan: which T-shaped one? the easier one where you have the base of the T on a line and they're nicely vertical and horizontal, or the harder one where the tees can be anywhere and the two lines can be in any direction (as long as they're not parallel)?
00:47:17 <quintopia> oerjan: at one what timestamp were thet mentioned?
00:47:30 <oerjan> the former.
00:47:34 <wob_jonas> oerjan: I haven't solved the figure eight one yet, I'll have to think about that
00:47:42 <oerjan> quintopia: i've forgot.
00:47:59 <quintopia> wob_jonas: do you has link?
00:48:04 <oerjan> wob_jonas: ah ok. don't read scrollback then >:)
00:48:29 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I think it was someone else who mentioned the figure eights first... let me look for a link
00:48:42 <shachaf> There's a link but it's in Hungarian.
00:48:53 <shachaf> The thing it links to, I mean. I think the Link itself is in English.
00:48:54 <oerjan> wob_jonas: although i'll have to check if my proof still works for the harder...
00:48:56 <shachaf> s/L/l/
00:49:14 <wob_jonas> shachaf: that one doesn't tell anything about the figure eights. it's a proof about the tees
00:49:19 <quintopia> shachaf: halp i dont magyar
00:49:37 <wob_jonas> but the figure eight problem is posed in the logs
00:49:53 <oerjan> wob_jonas: i think quite possibly it does, in fact.
00:49:54 <wob_jonas> oerjan: iirc the easy version of the tee has a quite short simple solution
00:51:25 <oerjan> mine is also short enough...
00:51:26 <wob_jonas> quintopia: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.07.28 starting from /01:23:38/
00:52:32 <wob_jonas> oerjan: on the forum, the general tee version was given with thumbtacks in 3-space:
00:52:41 <wob_jonas> from the same log page, "01:55:05 <b_jonas> the harder problem was: how many pairwise non-overlapping nails can you fit in 3-space, where a nail is the union of a circular disk and a segment such that the endpoint of the segment is the center of the disk and the two aren't coplanar."
00:52:53 <wob_jonas> but I don't think it's much harder than the 2d version
00:53:14 <oerjan> oh wait no it doesn't, not directly.
00:55:48 <wob_jonas> oh right, I remember the easy and short solution for the easy version of the tees (mushrooms) now
00:56:09 <wob_jonas> should I tell it, or would that be too much of a spoiler?
00:56:20 <int-e> you could always paste it somewhere
00:56:32 <wob_jonas> how fluent are people here in rot13 or base64?
00:56:39 <wob_jonas> is that sufficient for spoilers?
00:56:47 <wob_jonas> or do I have to, like, use a strong encryption?
00:57:13 <boily> `? hungarian
00:57:16 <HackEgo> hungarian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:57:16 <int-e> I wouldn't be surprised to find people fluent in rot13 here
00:57:25 <wob_jonas> yeah
00:57:31 <int-e> but base64 seems a bit of a stretch.
00:57:51 <wob_jonas> paste then, it's easier than a strong encryption
00:58:25 <boily> `le/rn hungarian/A gulyás, közeli rokonaival, a pörkölttel és a paprikással szinte az egyedüli parasztételek, amelyek a 19. században a polgári és a nemesi konyhában teljes mértékben létjogosultságot szereztek.
00:58:30 <HackEgo> Learned «hungarian»
00:59:23 <zzo38> I think ROT13 is commonly used, but there are other ways such as to send a private message, or a UHS cipher
00:59:40 <wob_jonas> Problem: prove that you can't place more than a countable number of non-intersecting tee shapes (mushrooms) in the plane, such that a tee shape is the union of a vertical segment that goes upwards from the x axis and a horizontal segment whose midpoint is the top of the vertical segment.
00:59:53 <shachaf> zzo38: A private message doesn't work because people not included in the message might retroactively want to look at the solution in the logs.
01:00:13 <shachaf> zzo38: UHS cipher doesn't work because no one knows how it works except for you.
01:00:30 <boily> solution: use québécois.
01:01:07 <zzo38> The code for FreeUHS is public domain you can easily view it. But, also here is the decoder for the UHS cipher in JavaScript: const decoder=Array.from({length:96}).map((x,y)=>String.fromCharCode((y*2+Math.floor(y/48))%96+32)).join(""); const decode=x=>x.replace(/./g,x=>decoder[x.charCodeAt()-32]);
01:01:20 <pikhq> ROT13 seems appropriate for spoilers in active conversation (rather than an actually secret message).
01:01:44 <shachaf> zzo38: Are you sure that it doesn't violate the Digital Millenium Copyright Act?
01:01:48 <zzo38> pikhq: Yes, and it is what is commonly used and probably should be if you do not have a good reason to not to
01:02:13 <pikhq> For example: Fancr xvyyrq Qhzoyrqber.
01:02:39 <shachaf> cbbpurf trg fzbbpurf
01:03:09 <zzo38> shachaf: It probably doesn't matter; such information can be found in many place (including UHS2HTML.pl documentation, OpenUHS source code, etc) (although I figured it out by myself instead)
01:03:10 <wob_jonas> Solution (rot13): Sbe rnpu grr, gnxr gur cnve bs gur engvbany k pbbeqvangr bs n cbvag ba gur yrsg unys bs gur ubevmbagny frtzrag naq bar ba gur evtug unys. Gurfr cnvef pna'g zngpu sbe gjb qvssrerag aba-bireynccvat grrf, naq gurer ner bayl pbhagnoyr cbffvoyr barf.
01:04:34 <zzo38> It is easy to make ROT13 with a shell script of course.
01:05:10 <boily> shachaf: lbh fzbbpu cbbpurf?
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01:05:44 <shachaf> boily: of course not: https://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/smooch-your-pooch-a-cute-childrens-book-with-unsafe-suggestions/
01:06:07 <wob_jonas> I guess if you learn to read rot13, that's just hurting yourself, just like if you learn to read the fucking numbers on the eye test table. Do you know how hard it is to fight the latter?
01:07:01 <oerjan> wob_jonas: hm ok, that's simpler than my solution, but similar.
01:07:22 <wob_jonas> I think I still only know the 42 and that it's made of the digits 12345679, but I had to actively try to forget it at examinations.
01:07:50 <shachaf> wob_jonas's T solution is almost identical to the 8 solution I know.
01:08:27 <wob_jonas> These days I'm measured by a different different eye test chart page, not the classical one, so now I have to fight not to remember that one.
01:09:52 <wob_jonas> Hopefully sooner or later they'll just use random-generated ones (at least for the letter/number recognition tests, not the other tests).
01:11:05 <wob_jonas> Electronic technology is always getting cheaper, so I think that time will come soon enough (like a couple of years).
01:11:34 <wob_jonas> Has anyone else here had this problme?
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01:12:18 <boily> `relcome Zekka
01:12:19 <HackEgo> Zekka: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:13:00 <shachaf> wob_jonas: I've never memorized the letters on the eye exam thing.
01:13:41 <wob_jonas> shachaf: sure, that's the sensible outcome, but did you also feel that was a problem?
01:14:12 <shachaf> What, fighting to avoid memorizing them?
01:14:27 <wob_jonas> yes
01:14:45 <wob_jonas> or feeling frustrated that they just use the same chart always
01:15:01 <wob_jonas> oh, and I think I know there's a 24 somewhere
01:15:01 <shachaf> I didn't know they use the same chart always.
01:15:14 <shachaf> There must be at least two charts.
01:15:19 <wob_jonas> and that one is more annoying, because the 42 doesn't actually matter, but the 24 is down where it does
01:15:30 <wob_jonas> shachaf: yes, there are at least three charts:
01:15:43 <shachaf> Or maybe everyone switches simultaneously.
01:15:48 <shachaf> When I was young the chart was in Hebrew. Now it's in English.
01:15:50 <wob_jonas> one with numbers, one with letters, one with E shapes rotated four ways,
01:15:55 <shachaf> (And I'm old.)
01:16:17 <wob_jonas> ah, I've never seen a hebrew one
01:16:47 <shachaf> Then maybe you're younger than I am, so you didn't take eye exams before the switch.
01:17:22 <wob_jonas> no, I just don't live in a country where people read hebrew
01:17:43 <shachaf> Neither do I.
01:17:49 <shachaf> Well, I guess some people do.
01:18:22 <shachaf> But I'm told that, in Hungary, the game called "Animal, Vegetable, Mineral" in English is called "barkochba".
01:18:58 <wob_jonas> shachaf: yes, it's called that, but I think it's called "twenty questions" in English
01:19:29 <wob_jonas> or at least it's called something like "barkochba", I'm not sure that's the correct spelling
01:19:37 <shachaf> I'm going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Questions
01:20:43 <shachaf> "mineral" seems awfully specific
01:22:07 <shachaf> @wn mineral
01:22:09 <lambdabot> *** "mineral" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
01:22:09 <lambdabot> mineral
01:22:09 <lambdabot> adj 1: relating to minerals; "mineral elements"; "mineral
01:22:09 <lambdabot> deposits"
01:22:09 <lambdabot> 2: composed of matter other than plant or animal; "the inorganic
01:22:11 <lambdabot> [3 @more lines]
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01:36:25 <oerjan> @more
01:36:25 <lambdabot> mineral world"
01:36:26 <lambdabot> n 1: solid homogeneous inorganic substances occurring in nature
01:36:26 <lambdabot> having a definite chemical composition
01:36:36 <oerjan> huh it was still there
01:37:11 <oerjan> int-e: is @more distinguished by channel or something?
01:37:19 <oerjan> @wn mineral
01:37:20 <lambdabot> *** "mineral" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
01:37:20 <lambdabot> mineral
01:37:20 <lambdabot> adj 1: relating to minerals; "mineral elements"; "mineral
01:37:20 <lambdabot> deposits"
01:37:20 <lambdabot> 2: composed of matter other than plant or animal; "the inorganic
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01:37:22 <lambdabot> [3 @more lines]
01:37:31 <oerjan> @more
01:37:31 <lambdabot> mineral world"
01:37:31 <lambdabot> n 1: solid homogeneous inorganic substances occurring in nature
01:37:31 <lambdabot> having a definite chemical composition
01:37:45 <oerjan> seems it does
01:37:47 <int-e> oerjan: I believe so.
01:37:55 <oerjan> it didn't accept @more in private
01:39:09 <oerjan> @more
01:39:29 <oerjan> (just testing the reverse)
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01:48:52 <oerjan> <int-e> (and there's room for optimization... I could drop all the even numbers because a2 \/ b2 is easy to satisfy) <-- all the numbers not relatively prime to the distance, i think.
01:49:01 <oerjan> (in general)
01:49:19 <oerjan> which would also solve your dodgy -a2 \/ -b2
01:50:27 * oerjan didn't program anything, but that's what he found out checking some cases by hand
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01:52:57 <oerjan> l and 1 are _so_ distinguishable in sprunge's font. not.
01:57:10 <shachaf> oh man
01:57:20 <shachaf> you totally had me going there until you said "not."
01:57:28 <oerjan> figures.
01:57:31 <shachaf> i was completely ready to believe that they were distinguishable
01:58:03 <oerjan> OKAY
02:00:43 <boily> are there any downsides to repeatedly use a box of beasts?
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02:10:47 <int-e> oerjan: yes, all numbers relatively prime to the distance, but the distance was 16...
02:10:59 <int-e> +not
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02:12:06 <int-e> but the same argument means that -a2 \/ -b2 will not cause any trouble because whatever a prime factor of 2 in a can do can also be accomplished by a factor of 2 in b and vice versa.
02:12:22 <int-e> basically I tried to write as little code as possible.
02:12:34 <int-e> KISS
02:14:57 <oerjan> int-e: right, although that's only because you ignore that in _reality_ a2 <=> b2.
02:15:34 <int-e> and I got away with it.
02:15:38 <oerjan> but i guess it does indeed no harm, for any prime.
02:15:59 <oerjan> *indeed does
02:17:47 <oerjan> did you find any prime distances yet?
02:19:34 <int-e> No, I have not continued the search.
02:20:05 * int-e is trying to do something with hint...
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02:20:30 <int-e> (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hint)
02:22:14 <oerjan> assuming it is the "don't need to check numbers not relatively prime" that makes even distances more common than odd ones, it makes sense that prime distances should be rarest.
02:22:36 <int-e> yeah
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03:27:01 <int-e> oerjan: 15493 is the smallest prime that works
03:28:35 <int-e> now using minisat directly, and no divisibility checks; code: http://sprunge.us/EhKX?c++
03:28:38 <oerjan> ooh
03:33:09 <int-e> let's try to find out how many there are up to 100k. 18637 is another one.
03:36:16 <oerjan> seems rather random. probably there is no faster check than such a SAT solver.
03:41:59 <int-e> even if there is a faster check, it would probably be far more tedious to code.
03:43:11 <int-e> Especially in this case where one doesn't even need to do a Tseytin transformation to obtain a CNF.
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04:02:55 <int-e> 43613, 45179... also this is slowing down significantly now.
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04:24:42 <hppavilion[2]> Are second languages like riding a bike?
04:25:11 <hppavilion[2]> That is, if you learn a foreign language (to babel 3-5 level), then don't use it (or similar languages) for a while, can you pick it up normally?
04:25:50 <baordog> hppavilion[2]: Depends on the person.
04:26:06 <baordog> My suggestion is to learn the language well enough to read it on an adult level.
04:26:13 <baordog> Many people who can "speak" a language can't read it at all.
04:26:24 <baordog> Couldn't read arbitrary books without a dictionary.
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09:04:45 <Jafet> oddly enough, adding divisibility tests does not seem to help in any way. maybe it's the variable ordering.
09:33:32 <hppavilion[0]> The Official State Dance of Colorado is... the Square Dance
09:33:34 <hppavilion[0]> xD
09:34:16 <oerjan> surely you mean rectangle
09:34:26 <izabera> it's funny because dance :D
09:34:34 * izabera is european and didn't get the joke
09:34:46 <myname> :D
09:35:24 <oerjan> i'm also european, but i vaguely remembered it anyhow.
09:36:38 <oerjan> hm it's actually true.
09:36:43 <Sgeo> It's not my imagination that this is a good card, right? http://pkmncards.com/card/articuno-roaring-skies-ros-16/
09:37:22 <oerjan> but then, most us states have one, have that one.
09:37:28 <oerjan> *that have one
09:37:43 <oerjan> stupid fingers ruining my scansion
09:38:18 <oerjan> Sgeo: cards are only imagination hth
09:40:50 <izabera> don't cry
09:45:50 <oerjan> wyoming doesn't seem to have a state dance.
09:46:54 <izabera> why do states even have an official dance?
09:47:18 <oerjan> "where're sources for this? i've searched a bit online and can't find any reason to believe that new york's official dance is the harlem shake."
09:47:28 <oerjan> from the talk page.
09:47:40 <oerjan> izabera: they have official everything
09:48:03 <oerjan> i bet there are even state rocks -> now to check
09:49:50 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_minerals,_rocks,_stones_and_gemstones Q.E.D.
09:50:11 <izabera> whyyyyy
09:50:58 <izabera> haha kansas has none
09:50:59 <izabera> losers
09:55:07 <Sgeo> oerjan, I'm attempting to interpret and explain profunctor optics, I think I'm being too abstract
09:55:35 * oerjan gently turns Sgeo toward shachaf
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10:49:13 <Sgeo> http://sgeo.tumblr.com/post/148191055665/profunctor-lenses-and-elixir
10:49:19 * Sgeo faints
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10:56:56 <hppavilion[0]> Wait, for whom does the bell toll?
10:57:53 <shachaf> you're not supposed to ask that hth
10:59:19 <Taneb> hppavilion[0], thee, I think
10:59:37 <hppavilion[0]> Ah, thank you
10:59:40 <hppavilion[0]> shachaf: tdnh
10:59:49 <hppavilion[0]> tyvm?
11:00:01 <shachaf> Taneb: i read on the internet that it tolls for me, though
11:01:43 <Sgeo> shachaf, am I at least somewhat accurate?
11:01:47 <Sgeo> Sorry if it's unreadable
11:02:26 <shachaf> It's unreadable in some philosophical sense in that I didn't read it.
11:03:51 <shachaf> I think the notation doesn't make sense.
11:04:43 <xfix> `len t͕͕̮̺̹̭̙͌ͮ̄e͈̼̥͕̱͎ͧ͊̓͡s̗͉͇͔̩̟͈̒̽̊̒tͮ̂ͤ͆͒̎̚͏͚͎̦̲͝
11:05:08 <Sgeo> shachaf, the = thing?
11:05:11 <HackEgo> 4 graphemes \ 48 codepoints \ 92 UTF-8 bytes
11:05:15 <shachaf> It doesn't make sense to say that I give you "Profunctor p => p a b" because that means that I give you something that requires you to satisfy the Profunctor p constraint.
11:05:38 <myname> 4 graphemes?
11:05:39 <shachaf> It's like when people say things like "(exists a. Show a => a)".
11:06:02 <shachaf> Anyway overall it looks more or less correct? I don't know Elixir.
11:06:45 <xfix> myname: I guess it should say grapheme clusters.
11:06:54 <Sgeo> shachaf, ty
11:06:55 <shachaf> `relcome xfix
11:07:04 <HackEgo> xfix: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
11:07:45 <shachaf> Are you some kind of fixed point?
11:08:35 <xfix> myname: In short, it's a count of user perceived characters.
11:09:03 <xfix> In this case, the string has lots of combining characters, but there are 4 user perceived characters.
11:09:04 <myname> i perceive more than 4ncharacters!
11:09:25 <shachaf> I perceive shachaf, Sgeo, xfix, myname.
11:09:30 <shachaf> HackEgo is not a character.
11:09:46 <xfix> `len g̈
11:10:04 <HackEgo> 1 grapheme \ 2 codepoints \ 3 UTF-8 bytes
11:10:19 <xfix> In this case, despite it being a simple g with two dots, it cannot be represented with a single codepoint.
11:10:31 <xfix> But at the same time, it's clear that it's a single character.
11:10:59 <shachaf> Taneb: single characters are my favorite
11:11:05 <shachaf> for my shipping wall and all
11:11:43 <xfix> Although, I guess the definition of that depends on a language.
11:11:46 <xfix> `len ch
11:12:00 <HackEgo> 2 codepoints
11:12:10 <xfix> In most locales, this is 2 characters, but in Slovak it's 1,
11:13:56 <xfix> `len 🇺🇸
11:14:12 <HackEgo> 2 codepoints \ 4 Java characters \ 8 UTF-8 bytes
11:14:21 <xfix> Oh, right, Perl version used by HackEgo is too old, and doesn't recognize emoji characters.
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11:37:35 <int-e> @tell oerjan after 7 hours of computation, this is the list of prime differences up to 100k: 15493, 18637, 43613, 45179, 61333, 67807, 68483, 80671, 87383.
11:37:35 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
11:39:15 <izabera> hey is this a common technique? https://arin.ga/k0UEqz/raw
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11:39:42 <izabera> all i've read on stackoverflow was about using a pipe with close on exec
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11:48:06 <Jafet> @oeis 15493, 18637, 43613, 45179, 61333, 67807, 68483, 80671, 87383
11:48:09 <lambdabot> Sequence not found.
11:49:06 <Jafet> @oeis 16, 22, 34, 36, 46, 56, 64, 66
11:49:07 <lambdabot> Erdős-Woods numbers: the length of an interval of consecutive integers with ...
11:53:59 <Jafet> @google "Erdős-Woods prime"
11:54:00 <lambdabot> No Result Found.
11:55:54 <int-e> lambdabot: why don't you tell us the sequence number? *mumble*
12:07:26 <int-e> ... because the oeis package's simple interface doesn't: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/oeis-0.3.6/docs/src/Math-OEIS.html#lookupOEIS
12:07:29 <int-e> meh
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13:33:13 <int-e> also why don't cabal/hackage do incremental updates for the package database...
13:33:25 <int-e> 12 MB is not *that* small.
13:34:05 <wob_jonas> maybe it was implemented back when the package database was small, and then nobody updated it since. or maybe they didn't find an easy way to install rsync on windows.
13:48:06 <wob_jonas> agile programming => http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-07-30
13:50:55 <int-e> does it involve pole dancing?
13:51:27 <int-e> okay, close enough.
13:52:29 <int-e> today, Debian gave me: news for cheap
13:52:49 <int-e> (full message: Mailing root: apt-listchanges: news for cheap )
13:57:50 <int-e> it would help if their tar file (uncompressed) were append only but it isn't.
13:58:27 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, sorting by time could work too
13:59:34 <wob_jonas> although then you can't save space by deleting old packages from the databse
14:00:25 <int-e> well, hackage is not in the habit of deleting packages
14:00:48 <wob_jonas> int-e: it's not that big yet
14:00:59 <int-e> though nowadays it allows editing meta-information
14:01:13 <int-e> so it's not crystal clear anymore
14:02:12 <int-e> hah. http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2016/07/28/0806-the-divine-comedy-page-5/
14:02:39 <int-e> (finally! a funny Sandra and Woo strip!)
14:13:20 <int-e> related: http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2003-11-22
14:55:47 <wob_jonas> `? metroid
14:56:00 <HackEgo> metroid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
15:25:58 <wob_jonas> `? mario
15:26:13 <HackEgo> Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo.
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19:42:03 <almightynsx> help
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19:45:57 <almightynsx> help?
19:47:38 <izabera> help with what?
19:53:28 <almightynsx> ok so i got a really difficult task on my hands
19:53:55 <wob_jonas> almightynsx: raising children?
19:54:04 <almightynsx> i want to understand the deepest level of esotericism and magick/magic. how would i do that or who would i talk to?
19:54:13 <almightynsx> lol maybe soon
19:54:46 <izabera> almightynsx: wrong chan?
19:55:06 <almightynsx> what do you mean?
19:55:22 <almightynsx> i think is appropriate
19:57:40 <almightynsx> i want to understand occult magick mysticism and gnosis as a science. how could i make this possible
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20:03:43 <almightynsx> no one can answer?
20:05:39 <shachaf> `welcome almightynsx
20:05:56 <HackEgo> almightynsx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:06:13 <wob_jonas> oh come on, he deserved at least a rainbow one
20:08:17 <shachaf> The rainbow one is annoying when you're trying to communicate actual information.
20:08:30 <shachaf> In fact all the variations are annoying for that. Not helpful.
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20:25:04 <wob_jonas> `ping
20:25:09 <HackEgo> pong
20:28:18 <orin> `pong
20:28:20 <HackEgo> pung
20:28:26 <orin> `pung
20:28:27 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pung: not found
20:38:55 <almightynsx1> im looking for help. anyone have a few minutes?
20:41:12 <myname> don't ask to ask ...
20:43:15 <almightynsx1> ok
20:43:43 <almightynsx1> im trying to find a quick route to learn as much about real magic/magick as possible. any ideas?
20:44:12 <almightynsx1> or actually i should say the occult*
20:44:13 <wob_jonas> haven't you already asked that like an hour ago?
20:44:22 <almightynsx1> no one responded
20:44:24 <pikhq> `welcome
20:44:28 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:44:37 <myname> there is your answer
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20:46:03 <almightynsx1> that doesnt help at all
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20:46:18 <myname> read thenstuff in the parantheses
20:47:40 <wob_jonas> "thenstuff"?
20:47:50 <myname> s/n/ /
20:48:00 <myname> touchscreen keyboards are hard
20:48:41 <orin> almightynsx1: try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:50:12 <myname> i am a bit afraid that people who are looking for that might be too stupid
20:50:13 <shachaf> Is magick different from magic?
20:50:27 <myname> shachaf: please don't
20:50:35 <shachaf> Don't what?
20:50:53 <myname> don't ask questions you don't want to be answered
20:52:22 <Sgeo> There are too few words and too much reuse. So many places where people wander in looking for something related only in name
20:52:48 <Sgeo> /r/rust gets Rust game people, #go gets programmers, #nethack gets people who want to hack stuff
20:52:57 <Sgeo> And we get occultists
20:53:27 <Taneb> #cs-york gets canadians
20:53:30 <orin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9FImc2LOr8
20:53:39 <myname> oh, there is an actual go chnnel?
20:53:42 <myname> interesting
20:54:34 <orin> come on and slam and welcome to the jam
20:54:51 <wob_jonas> Sgeo: what's "Rust game"?
20:59:24 <shachaf> I asked the question because I did want it to be answered.
20:59:51 <Taneb> wob_jonas, survival first person shooter mmo, I think
20:59:58 <wob_jonas> Taneb: ok
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21:02:52 <almightynsx> whats the whole address for DALnet
21:04:45 <orin> irc.dal.net
21:07:11 <almightynsx> got it thanks
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21:16:26 <shachaf> Do you like Roald Dahl?
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21:18:53 <gamemanj> shachaf: *shakes 8-ball* ask again
21:18:59 <shachaf> `8ball
21:19:02 <HackEgo> Reply hazy try again.
21:19:08 <gamemanj> Close enough.
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22:21:46 <int-e> shachaf: do you wanna give feedback on https://github.com/int-e/haskell-src-exts-simple/blob/master/src/Language/Haskell/Exts/Simple/Syntax.hs ? :-P
22:22:35 <shachaf> What's all this?
22:22:52 <int-e> it's an annotation-free view on the haskell-src-exts AST
22:23:07 * int-e got carried away while updating the corresponding users in lambdabot.
22:26:34 <int-e> and I've reached the point where I have to decide whether I'll treat it as a fun experiment or actually polish and use it.
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22:29:42 <quintopia> ahois523
22:30:26 <ais523> hi
22:30:48 <quintopia> changed the world lately
22:30:53 <quintopia> ?
22:31:16 <int-e> feel the power of the butterfly effect
22:31:35 <ais523> quintopia: not intentionally in a major way
22:32:05 <quintopia> changed your own world?
22:32:38 <ais523> quintopia: well I'm mostly trying to find a job
22:33:18 <quintopia> right on. got good leads?
22:34:10 <ais523> just one and I'm worried it'll fall through
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22:34:34 <shachaf> What sort of job?
22:35:12 <ais523> shachaf: well my experience is in computer science research
22:35:25 <ais523> I even have a PhD in that
22:35:34 <ais523> going too far out-of-field, it'd be hard for me to demonstrate I had relevant experience
22:36:23 <shachaf> Oh, that reminds me that I forgot to read your thesis.
22:37:13 <shachaf> I guess most jobs in computer science research are in academia?
22:37:27 <ais523> yes, I imagine so too
22:37:46 <ais523> that said, one of the things I'm thinking about is working for a research department of a company
22:37:57 <ais523> but I don't know how many would be working in the fields I have experience in
22:38:46 <shachaf> Are you interested in non-research computer jobs?
22:38:54 <shachaf> Not that I know much about how the whole thing works in the UK.
22:39:04 <ais523> to some extent, those are the likely "fallback"
22:39:23 <ais523> but companies are unwilling to hire someone with a PhD for a position that doesn't need one, as they assume that you'll jump ship when a better position comes along
22:40:09 <shachaf> Is that true?
22:40:29 <ais523> not sure (second-hand information), it seems plausible though
22:40:31 <shachaf> I think I heard that Google typically hires people with PhDs at one level above people without.
22:40:52 <shachaf> Often for roughly the same sort of work.
22:41:01 <shachaf> But I might be wrong about the sort of work or the rest of it.
22:41:58 <ais523> it's possible I guess
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22:42:11 <ais523> the problem with working for Google is that it's physically in London
22:42:31 <ais523> and I was hoping for a job somewhat nearer
22:42:47 <ais523> (London is just about within reasonable commuting range in terms of time, but not in terms of money spent)
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22:43:16 <shachaf> Well, only an example that I heard about.
22:43:44 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, ah well you just have to hold out for hs2
22:44:00 <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that makes it still faster, I expect, but probably not any less expensive
22:45:02 <ais523> (also, terminating at Curzon Street Station is possibly not the best of plans; sure, it's a disused station in the centre of Birmingham, so must have seemed like a good idea, but the *reason* it's disused is that it's sufficiently far from the centre that people forgot about it)
22:45:12 <shachaf> What sort of expense is it?
22:48:16 <ais523> shachaf: if using a slow train and buying the ticket well in advance, it appears to cost £16 in each direction: http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/BHM/EUS/031016/0900/arr/031016/1700/dep
22:48:25 <ais523> that requires getting up over three hours in advance
22:48:59 <shachaf> That sounds terrible.
22:49:26 <ais523> the fastest trains appear to cost £85 one way
22:49:39 <ais523> with no benefit for buying a return ticket
22:50:24 <ais523> or £55 if you miss rush hour
22:51:44 <shachaf> Well, Birmingham is over 100 miles from London, apparently.
22:51:54 <shachaf> Sounds like a scow commute no matter what the price is.
22:52:24 <ais523> it is probably the most heavily competed and optimized intercity journey
22:52:30 <ais523> but even then it's not what you want to be doing on a commute
22:52:54 <shachaf> In a situation like that I think I'd prefer to just move to London.
22:53:25 <ais523> (not to mention, there's /also/ the issue of getting to the exact endpoints that you want; there actually used to be a high-rise block of flats physically above New Street Station but it's been demolished, and a job in London is unlikely to be right next to Euston or Marylebone)
22:53:50 <shachaf> That's what fizzie did, rather than commute from Finland.
22:54:24 <ais523> yes but commuting from Finland to London is probably not temporally viable
22:55:05 <ais523> you *might* be able to do it fast enough in a military plane, but that would be cost-prohibitive in addition to probably not available to the general public
22:57:25 <ais523> incidentally I think the UK has at least one startup that's trying to substitute planes for trains, but I don't know how popular they are
22:57:34 <ais523> there's also the possibility of coach travel I guess, let me check hat
22:57:36 <ais523> *that
22:59:53 <ais523> £20 return but it takes over 2 and a half hours each way
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23:00:19 <ais523> this is believable, the coaches are limited by the road speed limit of 70mph, the rail speed limits are higher
23:00:34 <ais523> maybe we should build a hyperloop :-P
23:00:44 <shachaf> You should bring that up in #trains.
23:01:02 <ais523> (note: the UK is a very unlikely place to build one, our population density is very high, meaning that finding a path for new transport corridors is very hard)
23:01:34 <shachaf> It isn't all that easy in the US either.
23:01:57 <shachaf> Anyway you could move to California. I heard that's where all the cool people go.
23:02:20 <ais523> if I'm unwilling to move within the UK (and I am), I don't want to move to the US either
23:03:47 <shachaf> Oh, I didn't see that you were unwilling to move.
23:03:47 <quintopia> that's the reason i never found an industry job i think. i was unwilling to compromise and take a job that didn't absolutely thrill me
23:05:01 <ais523> quintopia: I think half of my problem may be taking job postings at face value
23:05:10 <ais523> if they ask for a bunch of experience I don't have I tend not to apply
23:05:46 <quintopia> ais523: yeah i do it too :/
23:05:48 <shachaf> Yes, job postings are scow.
23:06:52 <shachaf> The whole system is a mess.
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23:23:01 <int-e> @metar lowi
23:23:01 <lambdabot> LOWI 302150Z AUTO 11005KT 9999 BKN100 20/17 Q1017
23:23:27 <shachaf> `? weather
23:23:38 <ais523> @metar EGBB
23:23:38 <lambdabot> EGBB 302150Z 33007KT CAVOK 14/09 Q1016
23:23:38 <int-e> `? metasepia
23:23:46 <HackEgo> lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
23:23:47 <HackEgo> metasepia knew the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks.
23:23:49 <lambdabot> CYUL 302200Z 19012KT 30SM FEW060 FEW240 25/12 A3004 RMK SC1CI1 SC TR SLP174 DENSITY ALT 1100FT \ ENVA 302150Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW004 SCT090 12/10 Q1004 RMK WIND 670FT 33004KT \ ESSB 302150Z AUTO 23004KT 9999 FEW039/// SCT170/// 16/15 Q1005 \ KOAK 302153Z 30016KT 10SM FEW008 20/13 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP103 T02000133
23:24:25 <shachaf> @metar llbg
23:24:25 <lambdabot> LLBG 302220Z 15005KT 9999 SCT023 27/23 Q1006 NOSIG
23:24:28 <quintopia> coily
23:24:36 <shachaf> @metar kphx
23:24:36 <lambdabot> KPHX 302151Z 24010G14KT 10SM FEW120 FEW150 SCT200 37/18 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP067 CB DSNT N AND E-SE T03720183
23:24:41 <ais523> wow, we're using a botchain for something /other/ than a bot loop?
23:25:32 <quintopia> @metar katl
23:25:32 <lambdabot> KATL 302152Z 23005KT 10SM FEW034 FEW110 BKN200 BKN250 28/22 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP154 CB DSNT SE-SW T02780217
23:26:25 <shachaf> > text "`ls
23:26:26 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:10:
23:26:26 <lambdabot> lexical error in string/character literal at end of input
23:26:27 <shachaf> > text "`ls"
23:26:28 <lambdabot> `ls
23:26:59 <shachaf> Oh, it was probably fungot or some other bot.
23:27:00 <fungot> shachaf: it will. business is mailing for individuals on the gas supplies.
23:27:28 <shachaf> ais523: Why do you like Birmingham?
23:27:55 <ais523> shachaf: I've lived here all my life and can't really function elsewhere for long periods of time
23:28:25 <shachaf> Maybe I'm like that.
23:28:43 <shachaf> I've never been to Birmingham. That could be why I can't function for long periods of time.
23:28:57 <myname> lol
23:29:25 <shachaf> Maybe that's facetious.
23:51:25 <int-e> @tell oerjan more Erdős-Woods numbers: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/b059756.txt
23:51:26 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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00:02:02 <oerjan> @messages-loop
00:02:02 <lambdabot> int-e said 12h 24m 26s ago: after 7 hours of computation, this is the list of prime differences up to 100k: 15493, 18637, 43613, 45179, 61333, 67807, 68483, 80671, 87383.
00:02:02 <lambdabot> int-e said 10m 36s ago: more Erdős-Woods numbers: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/b059756.txt
00:03:18 <oerjan> of course there would be a name for it.
00:03:34 <int-e> Jafet found that via OEIS
00:03:38 <oerjan> also, of course erdős would be involved.
00:07:38 <oerjan> "the set of Erdős–Woods numbers is recursive" haven't we basically proved that too.
00:07:48 <int-e> sure
00:10:09 <int-e> We have membership of the decision problem (is n an E-W number?) in NEXPTIME.
00:11:27 <oerjan> from http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=4973800&fileId=S1446788700031220 "We conjecture and provide supporting evidence that all odd d have property (A)."
00:11:34 <oerjan> i think you've disproved that.
00:12:06 <oerjan> that was back in 1989, presumably he didn't have the computational power to check.
00:24:17 <oerjan> <shachaf> HackEgo is not a character. <-- now that's just mean.
00:24:29 <oerjan> `botsnack
00:24:45 <HackEgo> ​>:-D
00:27:16 <shachaf> `snackego
00:27:18 <oerjan> @tell xfix <xfix> Oh, right, Perl version used by HackEgo is too old, and doesn't recognize emoji characters. <-- we do have fairly new unicode data in the share/ directory, though.
00:27:18 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:27:21 <HackEgo> ​:)
00:27:36 <shachaf> newnicode data
00:27:40 * oerjan updated it a few weeks ago.
00:28:09 <shachaf> I think they're adding emoji mor quickly than you can update the database.
00:28:15 <shachaf> e
00:28:31 <oerjan> although it's used in `multicode, probably not `perl.
00:28:38 <oerjan> `head bin/multicode
00:28:40 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/python \ \ \ import os, glob, sys, unicodedata, locale, gzip, re, traceback, encodings \ import urllib, webbrowser, textwrap \ \ # bz2 was introduced in 2.3, we want this to work also with earlier versions \ try: \ import bz2 \ except ImportError:
00:29:16 <oerjan> shachaf: probably, i only updated it because people were complaining it was missing stuff.
00:29:50 <oerjan> `` ls share/U*
00:29:56 <HackEgo> share/UnicodeData.txt
00:30:14 <oerjan> `head share/UnicodeData.txt
00:30:19 <HackEgo> 0000;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;NULL;;;; \ 0001;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;START OF HEADING;;;; \ 0002;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;START OF TEXT;;;; \ 0003;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;END OF TEXT;;;; \ 0004;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;END OF TRANSMISSION;;;; \ 0005;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;ENQUIRY;;;; \ 0006;<control>;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;ACKNOWLEDGE;;;; \ 0007;<control>;Cc
00:30:35 <oerjan> `tail share/UnicodeData.txt
00:30:36 <HackEgo> E01EA;VARIATION SELECTOR-251;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ E01EB;VARIATION SELECTOR-252;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ E01EC;VARIATION SELECTOR-253;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ E01ED;VARIATION SELECTOR-254;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ E01EE;VARIATION SELECTOR-255;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ E01EF;VARIATION SELECTOR-256;Mn;0;NSM;;;;;N;;;;; \ F0000;<Plane 15 Private Use, First>;Co;0;L;;
00:30:47 <oerjan> doesn't seem to have version info
00:30:49 <shachaf> I have a small program that processes UnicodeData.txt into a form useful for searching with less etc.
00:31:12 <oerjan> well `multicode allows lookup
00:31:59 <oerjan> `multicode 🇺🇸
00:32:03 <HackEgo> U+1F1FA REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER U \ UTF-8: f0 9f 87 ba UTF-16BE: d83cddfa Decimal: &#127482; \ 🇺 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+1F1F8 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER S \ UTF-8: f0 9f 87 b8 UTF-16BE: d83cddf8 Decimal: &#127480; \ 🇸 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
00:32:48 * int-e decides to start http://int-e.eu/~bf3/oeis/
00:32:51 <shachaf> `` ls -l share/UnicodeData.txt
00:32:55 <HackEgo> ​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 1686443 Jun 27 03:57 share/UnicodeData.txt
00:33:08 <oerjan> what's the 3 for
00:33:42 <int-e> it's a number
00:33:57 <shachaf> http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/ says "[TXT] UnicodeData.txt 16-May-2016 19:23 1.6M"
00:33:59 <int-e> presumably there were accounts bf1 and bf2 before mine
00:34:11 <shachaf> `sha1sum share/UnicodeData.txt
00:34:13 <HackEgo> caa1f90113a2f6c2134aadd6d68fbd62d00bba3c share/UnicodeData.txt
00:34:14 <oerjan> i assumed bf were your initials
00:34:28 <oerjan> and also, int-e.eu is your private domain
00:34:36 <int-e> (this dates back to my first university account)
00:34:41 <oerjan> ah
00:35:00 <oerjan> i was wondering why you'd even have a ~username/ part.
00:35:01 <int-e> yes, I could put it anywhere on that server...
00:35:11 <shachaf> I recommend the root directory.
00:35:12 <int-e> ...but then I'd have to manipulate symlinks
00:35:20 <shachaf> That's where I put everything on my server and it's a complete mess.
00:35:20 <oerjan> shocking
00:35:28 <oerjan> shachaf: good policy
00:35:38 <shachaf> int-e: Only if your URIs are cool.
00:35:53 <int-e> also the home directory gives everything a pleasant preliminary feeling
00:36:39 <shachaf> Sounds like it makes for uncool URIs.
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00:36:57 <int-e> shachaf: have I ever given the impression that I care about being cool?
00:36:57 <myname> i thought you would implement several oeis sequences in brainfuck :(
00:37:14 <shachaf> @google cool uris
00:37:15 <lambdabot> https://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/
00:38:34 <int-e> seriously, https://oeis.org/wiki/The_OEIS_Contributor's_License_Agreement
00:38:38 <oerjan> myname: admittedly i was vaguely hoping for that too
00:39:03 <int-e> shachaf: my cool webpage is here: http://64.137.252.151/
00:39:25 <shachaf> @google this page is under construction gifs
00:39:27 <lambdabot> http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/
00:39:27 <lambdabot> Title: Please be patient - This Page is Under Construction!
00:39:35 <shachaf> Now that's a cool web page.
00:39:56 <int-e> shachaf: I actually made the picture myself :P
00:40:08 <shachaf> Do you remember when every web page said that it was under construction?
00:40:13 <int-e> probably spent the better part of an hour on it, in gimp.
00:40:14 <shachaf> I had a web page that said that it was under construction.
00:40:17 <shachaf> That's all it said.
00:41:14 <int-e> I'm too tired for that license agreement... what happened to "email NJAS, and everything will be taken care of"?
00:42:27 <shachaf> int-e: just wait until you hear about the license agreement for project eula
00:43:51 <oerjan> "This seems to coincide with prime partitionable numbers in sense of Holsztynski & Strube" - that's basically the algorithm you used, i think.
00:46:41 <int-e> whatever those are
00:46:54 <oerjan> from https://oeis.org/A059756
00:46:56 <int-e> oh... you mean partition the primes left and right
00:47:22 <int-e> well, you... they.
00:49:57 <oerjan> i think their linked table is too short to contain any odd ones
00:50:23 <int-e> far too short
00:50:34 <int-e> 903 was the smallest odd one IIRC
00:52:31 <int-e> hmm, maybe I'm still awake enough to check out what's going on with #11011
00:52:40 <shachaf> I just found an email that I wrote in 2004.
00:52:51 <shachaf> It's startlingly zzoesque.
00:53:01 <oerjan> gah oeis is so slow
00:53:37 <oerjan> does this mean in 12 years zzo38 will be startlingly shachafesque
00:53:49 <shachaf> MAYBE
00:54:09 <shachaf> I wrote an email to the gmail team and never got a reply.
00:54:25 <shachaf> A little less than a decade later, I joined the gmail team.
00:54:39 <shachaf> But I still never got a reply.
00:55:47 <oerjan> shachaf: you should find the original gmail inbox and reply yourself hth
00:56:00 <oerjan> *gmail team inbox
00:56:09 <shachaf> Well, I'm not involved anymore.
00:56:10 <int-e> shachaf: you should try to find your email and reply.
00:56:14 <oerjan> oh.
00:56:18 <int-e> ah, damn.
00:56:19 <shachaf> I wonder whether someone working at Google could find it today, though.
00:56:25 * oerjan does the redundance
00:56:33 <int-e> @quote stereo
00:56:33 <lambdabot> xplat says: Welcome to #haskell-blah, where your bot commands are executed in triumphant stereo!
00:56:55 <int-e> that... sounds astonishingly appropriate.
00:56:59 <int-e> oerjan: hello, fellow bot!
00:57:05 <shachaf> `? weather
00:57:08 <HackEgo> lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK
00:57:11 <lambdabot> CYUL 302300Z 19014KT 30SM FEW060 FEW240 25/12 A3005 RMK SC1CI2 SC TR SLP177 DENSITY ALT 1100FT \ ENVA 302350Z 11007KT 9999 FEW004 BKN075 11/10 Q1004 RMK WIND 670FT VRB01KT \ ESSB 302350Z AUTO 26005KT 9999 BKN038/// 17/10 Q1005 \ KOAK 302353Z 31013G20KT 10SM FEW008 19/14 A2982 RMK AO2 SLP098 T01940139 10206 20178 58007
00:57:16 <shachaf> It's too cold here.
00:57:18 <oerjan> HELLO INT-E
00:57:28 <shachaf> What is int-e, anyway?
00:57:31 <shachaf> An interrupt?
00:57:45 <oerjan> inte vet jag
00:57:52 <shachaf> @google "int-e"
00:57:54 <lambdabot> http://www.int-e.net/
00:57:54 <lambdabot> Title: International Conference on New Horizons in Education
00:58:21 <shachaf> heute die welt, morgens das sonnensystem!
00:58:46 <oerjan> somehow all-lowercase german seems wrong even to me
00:59:02 <int-e> "morgens" is grammatically correct but may not express what you want.
00:59:02 <shachaf> Heute die Welt, Morgens das Sonnensystem!
00:59:16 <shachaf> What do I want to express?
00:59:21 <shachaf> And what does it express?
00:59:22 <oerjan> oh, and you don't even write lowercase anyway
00:59:31 <int-e> ("morgens" = in the morning; "morgen" = tomorrow. "Morgen" = the morning)
00:59:39 <shachaf> oerjan: i do for sarcasm
00:59:47 <oerjan> WHY WOULD YOU
00:59:53 <oerjan> *cough*
00:59:56 <boily> FOR HTH!
01:00:07 <oerjan> @quote stereo
01:00:07 <lambdabot> xplat says: Welcome to #haskell-blah, where your bot commands are executed in triumphant stereo!
01:00:08 <shachaf> int-e: I searched on Google and copied from http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TodayXTomorrowTheWorld
01:00:18 <oerjan> hm only one?
01:00:28 <shachaf> Oh, but http://www.bavarianilluminati.com/ says "morgen"
01:00:51 <shachaf> I remembered "morgen", so I'll go with that.
01:00:56 <int-e> "enn heute gehört uns Deutschland und morgen die ganze Welt" .. so does tvtropes, at least once.
01:01:04 <int-e> huh, where'd the "D" go?
01:01:28 <shachaf> int-e: thank you for the deutschlesson tdh
01:02:24 <oerjan> i was going to ask what "enn" meant.
01:03:10 <shachaf> int-e: Well, I was thinking of the Illuminati.
01:03:23 <oerjan> ITYMinati
01:03:37 <int-e> boo, #11011 does not list related tickets.
01:04:03 <oerjan> int-e: wait, it's ghc trac? i was opening the oeis page...
01:04:10 <int-e> oerjan: did you see shachaf's itymology pun?
01:04:20 <oerjan> "Decimal expansion of 4th root of 14. "
01:04:23 <shachaf> see it? he `learned it!
01:04:26 <int-e> oerjan: heh.
01:05:01 <oerjan> `? butterfly
01:05:04 <HackEgo> While some might think butterflies are descended from flies, that is a false entomology.
01:05:21 <int-e> hmm, xkcd did that one a while ago
01:05:32 <oerjan> he did?
01:05:34 <shachaf> `cwlprits butterfly
01:05:38 <oerjan> i thought i made it up.
01:05:40 <shachaf> I don't remember that.
01:05:47 <shachaf> It reads like a classic oerjan pun.
01:05:49 <int-e> https://xkcd.com/1012/
01:05:51 <HackEgo> oerjan
01:06:12 <oerjan> . o O ( He sometimes plagiarizes without noticing. )
01:06:26 <shachaf> That's hardly plagiarism.
01:06:54 <oerjan> i don't see what correctness of the accusation has to do with it.
01:07:14 <int-e> I think we can upgrade your plagiarism to a derivative work.
01:07:37 <oerjan> oh i already looked at #11011, in fact i subscribed yesterday.
01:07:38 <shachaf> If anything, plagiarism is integral to the creative process.
01:08:23 <int-e> speaking of which I wonder what Nina Paley is doing these days... ... still working on her second movie.
01:08:37 <oerjan> <int-e> boo, #11011 does not list related tickets. <-- hm didn't the wiki page linked have one?
01:09:43 <int-e> https://archive.org/details/AllCreativeWorkIsDerivative
01:10:03 <int-e> (no clue how well-known that one is)
01:10:53 <int-e> oerjan: yes it does
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01:11:55 <int-e> oerjan: for the future, I'd start OEIS references with A.
01:12:49 <shachaf> And GHC bugs with "boo"?
01:13:27 <ais523> hmm, the discussion earlier reminds me of the way that Birmingham Airport has a large sign on it saying "Hello world"
01:13:31 <ais523> I thought that was really clever
01:13:49 <int-e> hmm, not reliably, I think. But #nnnn without further explanation are very likely to be ghc tickets.
01:14:32 <int-e> This does not extend to alphabetic or alphnumeric strings like #esoteric.
01:14:34 <ais523> not INTERCAL constants?
01:15:01 <oerjan> int-e: also, http://narbonic.com/comic/august-28-september-2-2000/
01:16:07 <shachaf> "Today Paris / Tomorrow Paris / Don't get greedy"
01:16:13 <shachaf> Maybe I should read GG.
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01:19:07 <int-e> Hmm, to read Narbonic again or not to read Narbonic again...
01:19:28 <int-e> ...it was nice but there are probably better things to reread.
01:19:53 <shachaf> So this problem is NP-complete: Given a rooted directed graph where some of the nodes are marked, is there a path of length n from the root to a marked node for every n?
01:20:49 <shachaf> But it seems that proofs of that fact can be kind of complicated, even if they're verifiable in polynomial time?
01:21:50 <shachaf> scow
01:22:17 <int-e> oh... there's some fun modular arithmetic in there...
01:25:02 <oerjan> shachaf: surely proofs are just a list of paths for each n?
01:25:21 <shachaf> Every natural n.
01:25:34 <oerjan> oh.
01:27:09 <shachaf> Cycles are allowed. So for a cycle of length m at depth n, you know that every number >= n which is equal to n mod m is covered.
01:27:18 <shachaf> So you just need to find a bunch of those or something.
01:27:41 <oerjan> i don't think that's precisely right
01:27:48 <shachaf> And as long as the number of those is small enough, and you manually provide paths for smaller n, then it should be OK.
01:28:59 <int-e> The largest number not representable as the sum of p's and q's is pq-p-q ... if p and q are coprime.
01:29:33 <oerjan> if they're not coprime, there's obviously no largest number.
01:29:37 <int-e> I'll treat it as a puzzle.
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01:30:55 <int-e> (since right now, neither direction of NP-hardness is obvious to me)
01:31:05 <int-e> s/hardness/completeness)
01:31:26 <shachaf> Normally this problem is expressed differently.
01:33:42 <oerjan> `url bin/len
01:33:45 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/len
01:33:59 <shachaf> `? lem
01:34:01 <HackEgo> Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle.
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01:38:51 <oerjan> <int-e> also why don't cabal/hackage do incremental updates for the package database... <-- they're implementing that, i think. i thought it would be there for cabal 1.24 but apparently not.
01:40:32 <oerjan> not sure what held it up.
01:43:02 <quintopia> shachaf: reminds me of the proof that every number greater than 11 is the sum of a set of primes
01:43:55 <quintopia> which uses ramanujan's theorem that for all number 29 or greater, there is a prime between int(n/2) and n-11
01:48:23 <int-e> Yay, cloud computing at its best! http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/swiftkey-data-leak/
01:49:57 <int-e> (this is an example of the rainy phase where the collected data falls down all over Earth)
01:51:17 <oerjan> int-e: somehow i cannot find any issue for it on github, though, only side mentions.
01:51:57 <int-e> oerjan: I guess few people really suffer from that
01:52:22 <oerjan> int-e: i'm still speaking about incremental updates btw hth
01:52:27 <int-e> (when I was complaining I had the experience of a 'cabal update' taking almost 15 minutes...)
01:52:46 <oerjan> well i also think it takes too long. maybe not that long.
01:53:04 <oerjan> especially when the promises i've read say the new system should take seconds.
01:53:52 <int-e> well it's this mobile contract I have... I've exceeded my "fast connectivity" quota for the month.
01:55:07 <oerjan> ic
01:55:09 <int-e> So they allow me 128kbd/s, bundled ISDN speed.
01:55:51 <int-e> And 12MB/16kb = 750, 12.5 minutes.
01:55:59 <oerjan> int-e: btw there's apparently a stackage-related solution, stackage-update.
01:56:18 <int-e> maybe
01:56:27 <oerjan> i guess snoyman got fed up with waiting again.
01:56:38 <int-e> stackage will help until it decides to download a ghc binary.
01:56:46 <int-e> or would... I'm not using stack.
01:57:01 <oerjan> stackage is not stack hth
01:57:30 <int-e> all this new-fangled stuff is too much for me
01:57:54 <oerjan> in fact it said the "stackage-" prefix is only for convenience there
01:58:25 <oerjan> i'm not using stack either, although i'm wondering if i should.
01:58:43 <oerjan> but then, i'm not really programming for the time being.
01:59:04 <int-e> well, I have this stupid bot to update
01:59:08 <int-e> @botsnack
01:59:08 <lambdabot> :)
01:59:15 <int-e> @botsmack
01:59:15 <lambdabot> :)
01:59:34 <oerjan> @botsnark
01:59:34 <lambdabot> :)
02:00:45 <int-e> but stackage would mean subscribing to one of the confederated package databases, or does it mirror hackage as well?
02:02:21 <oerjan> int-e: i think from what i'm reading that stackage-update is simply a drop-in replacement for cabal update, and actually uses hackage.
02:02:44 <oerjan> http://www.yesodweb.com/blog/2015/04/announcing-stackage-update
02:03:15 <oerjan> (also uses git)
02:05:52 <int-e> hmm, thanks for the suggestion
02:06:32 <int-e> Receiving objects: 100% (151532/151532), 22.97 MiB | 2.87 MiB/s, done.
02:06:55 <int-e> That would be the initial fetch... so not helping me right now.
02:10:00 <int-e> ah. runIn suDir acfDir "git" ["archive", "--format=tar", "-o", tarFile, "current-hackage"] Nothing ... how have I never heard of git-archive before?
02:13:47 <int-e> tricky, it doesn't even use a branch... just a bunch of loose commits (with no parent).
02:23:09 <shachaf> oerjan: Why don't you think that's precisely right?
02:24:29 <oerjan> well it wasn't very clearly stated what "at depth n" means.
02:25:26 <oerjan> oh that's why int-e talked about pq-p-q
02:25:37 <shachaf> A cycle that starts at a node reachable from the root by a path of length n.
02:25:54 <oerjan> well it could be anywhere on that path.
02:26:15 <oerjan> *start anywhere
02:27:05 <oerjan> i think basically you can calculate all the shortest cycles involving each node.
02:27:25 <oerjan> at least that should be bounded in length.
02:27:28 <oerjan> hm
02:27:43 <oerjan> *cycle lengths
02:28:18 <oerjan> hm but different cycles of the same length might allow different extensions...
02:28:48 <oerjan> it's not immediately obviously to me that you can sum up all that needed information polynomially.
02:29:02 <oerjan> which is what makes it complicated, i guess.
02:29:51 <oerjan> let's see, every path longer than the number of nodes must involve a cycle.
02:30:57 <oerjan> ...but even without cycles, there might be exponentially many paths.
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02:36:14 <oerjan> <shachaf> Is magick different from magic? <-- afaik "magick" is used by occultists to distinguish themselves from stage magicians hth
02:37:35 <oerjan> (no idea why myname didn't want you to know that.)
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03:49:35 <shachaf> oerjan: Oh, you might go through a cycle -- or multiple cycles -- several times before reaching a marked node. It doesn't have to be at the end of your path, of course.
03:50:31 <shachaf> I guess that's what you were saying.
03:50:46 <oerjan> yes.
03:50:47 <shachaf> Also I'm not quite sure about the NP claim anymore.
03:51:39 <oerjan> shocking
03:59:17 <Sgeo> I think I might just make shortcuts to the current Elixir accessor encoding. If something exclusively uses those shortcuts rather than the encoding directly, it will be compatible with new profunctors I extend those shortcuts with
04:07:30 <alercah> I should probably learn Elixir
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04:46:03 <shachaf> int-e: I checked the Wikipedia reference, and now it seems that the problem is maybe coNP-complete.
04:47:51 <oerjan> NP-mplete
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05:12:41 <shachaf> int-e: So this is the new problem: Given a rooted directed graph where some of the nodes are marked, is there an n such that there's no path of length n from the root to a marked node?
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10:54:29 <hppavilion[1]> In the minds of a politician, any growth in the economy is "our fault" and any shrinkage is "their faut"
10:54:35 <hppavilion[1]> s/faut/fault
10:54:41 <hppavilion[1]> Please, let us never teach them calculus
10:54:55 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-poud
10:54:55 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1d 10h 53m 39s ago: <hppavilion[2]> New rule: From now on, "Glottal stop" must be pronounced in a cockney accent ("Glo'al stop") <-- just as long as you do the equivalent with "uvular trill" and "alveolar trill" twh *MWAHAHAHA*
10:55:15 <gamemanj> @messages-pout
10:55:15 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
10:55:20 * gamemanj pouts
10:57:14 <int-e> @tell oerjan did you find https://oeis.org/A111042 ?
10:57:14 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
10:57:22 <hppavilion[1]> They'll start taking the integral of everything
10:57:28 <hppavilion[1]> s/integral/derivative/
10:57:46 <gamemanj> no, only when it benefits them
10:58:09 <hppavilion[1]> "While the economic shrinkage is the opposition's fault, as is the accelerating rate of shrinkage, the slowing of this acceleration's acceleration is all us, baby"
10:59:50 <gamemanj> ...
11:00:01 <gamemanj> ow
12:46:58 <int-e> Okay, awake enough to read http://oeis.org/wiki/The_OEIS_Contributor's_License_Agreement ... too much text. Her's the unacceptable bit: "You agree that OEIS may change [...] License Agreement [...] without advance notice." And this is the part that's important to them, because it allows them to make money: "You hereby grant a) to the Foundation and b) to the OEIS Users [...] a [...] license to...
12:47:04 <int-e> ...[...] sublicense all or any of the foregoing license rights to others. [...]"
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13:13:08 <hppavilion[1]> Hm...
13:13:25 <hppavilion[1]> Is there a way I can get texted when the news breaks of a major terrorist attack?
13:15:34 <izabera> E2MANY
13:35:33 <int-e> would I anger any people if lambdabot stopped supporting ghc-7.8... any people I care about?
13:39:34 <boily> hppavellon[1], izabellora, int-ello.
13:40:05 <boily> when was the last time the 7.8 branch updated?
13:41:21 <hppavilion[1]> NEVER
13:41:42 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: lambdabot should have a metar-like command for terrorism
13:42:07 <int-e> Version 7.8.4 (released December 23rd 2014)
13:44:29 <int-e> I guess I should ask about 7.6.3 instead... that's what debian stable ships.
13:44:52 <int-e> but that ship has sailed
14:10:01 <Jafet> I wonder if the integer sequences are actually eligible for copyright protection
14:13:41 <izabera> http://chartsme.com/
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14:16:01 <int-e> Jafet: the sequences themselves certainly are not
14:16:18 <int-e> Jafet: but the text on the A* pages is
14:56:27 <boily> there haven't been an oots in a long time...
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18:36:25 <orin> sweetened condensed milk is really good for coffee
18:39:58 <orin> @tell hppavilion[1] you could make a terror alert command by running a google news search every half hour, grabbing place names
18:39:58 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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20:09:48 <izabera> why is there no fexecve that works on a fd instead of a filename?
20:10:30 <izabera> i mean, there is but it's a library function
20:11:41 <nortti> what should it be, then?
20:11:46 <izabera> a syscall
20:12:31 <nortti> why? execvp is not, neither are most exec* variants
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20:12:42 <izabera> i know it's not
20:12:57 <izabera> i want to avoid the race between check and exec
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20:14:52 <nortti> hm, you mean a situation where you open a file, then outside of the program delete it and place a new thing at the path?
20:15:43 <izabera> yes that
20:16:51 <fizzie> Can you exec /proc/self/fd/N?
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20:17:48 <izabera> that's a symlink
20:18:09 <izabera> it doesn't solve the issue
20:18:29 <gamemanj> You have an FD to the file - perhaps read it, then write it somewhere else?
20:20:32 <izabera> it breaks setuid
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20:21:33 <fizzie> izabera: It's not a normal symlink. If you remove the file it points at, it turns into a broken symlink to "/original/path (deleted)", and stays that way even if you create a new file at that location.
20:22:19 <gamemanj> Seems useful.
20:23:04 <izabera> i see
20:23:09 <izabera> thanks fizzie
20:23:54 <fizzie> (There's apparently some other magic going on as well, because even creating a new file "/original/path (deleted)", while it makes the link look non-broken for ls, doesn't seem to make cat /proc/X/fd/Y to read from the new file.)
20:24:07 <izabera> yes i just tried
20:26:32 <izabera> this completely fixes my problem, thank you!
20:26:40 * izabera is gonna use fexecve *everywhere*
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21:17:03 <izabera> `` /dev/stdin foo < /bin/echo
21:17:31 <HackEgo> foo
21:28:55 <FireFly> Ha, sweet
21:33:49 <shachaf> Ha, ireFly
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21:59:17 <quintopia> is there a way to disable alt+f4 on windows
21:59:30 <alercah> remap alt
21:59:48 <quintopia> alercah: nah, i use it too much
21:59:55 <quintopia> which is the problem
22:00:15 <quintopia> it's too easy for alt+5 to slip and become alt+f4==instakill app
22:01:16 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Remove f4 key
22:01:34 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: You're lucky; on my laptop, the alt is unnecessary
22:02:14 <alercah> why is 5 near f4?
22:02:22 <alercah> hppavilion[1]: what.
22:02:32 <int-e> alercah: laptop keyboard?
22:02:38 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: that would be a great solution if i weren't fatally allergic to using keyboards with atrocious missing keycaps. I'd be blinded by the backlight with no keycap to cover it.
22:02:45 <hppavilion[1]> I think he meant f5
22:02:49 <hppavilion[1]> s/he/e/
22:03:02 <quintopia> alercah: why would it not be?
22:03:09 <alercah> it's normally nearer 4?
22:03:32 <quintopia> alercah: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/~/media/99691A2C9F3F49F69FA1B1204E768938.ashx
22:03:48 <alercah> hah
22:04:08 <int-e> f4 is right atop the 5 here, but there's a 2cm gap.
22:04:26 <quintopia> int-e: my fingers are more than 2cm wide, unfortunately
22:04:31 <int-e> (between the function key row and the first row of the keyboard)
22:04:53 <quintopia> and when stretching my hand up with the thumb affixed to alt, it's hard to aim perfectly without looking
22:05:33 <fizzie> My laptop's function key row is a touch-sensitive strip that can toggle between F-keys and the special (brightness, media etc.) ones.
22:05:34 <quintopia> (actually, i think the gap here is only like 1.25 cm)
22:05:50 <fizzie> It's a-silly.
22:06:00 <fizzie> http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/04/lenovocarbonx1_2-100258973-orig.jpg <- look at that thing.
22:06:20 <quintopia> fizzie: wtf mate
22:06:25 <fizzie> There's also a split [home | end] button where caps lock would normally be, and the backspace has been split to a [ <- | delete ] key.
22:06:26 <wob_jonas> quintopia: maybe use some program that lets you globally bind something to that key combination, and make the binding something that doesn't do much
22:06:52 <quintopia> fizzie: at least you have a trackpoint. i wish every lenovo had one.
22:07:04 <quintopia> wob_jonas: suggestions?
22:07:04 <fizzie> That's the v2 revision of the Carbon X1 -- the v3 made it completely normal again.
22:07:13 <alercah> trackpoint should be mandatory
22:07:20 <quintopia> alercah++
22:07:20 <fizzie> (The function key row is again regular keys, and the split ones are whole again.)
22:07:39 <fizzie> http://www.laptopmag.com/images/wp/purch-api/incontent/2012/08/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_G16.jpg <- looks like this now.
22:08:05 <wob_jonas> fizzie: nice, that looks better. are there replacement keycaps or something?
22:08:38 <quintopia> fizzie: it's nonstandard, but that is a much more convenient placement for home/end when i think about it.
22:08:51 <fizzie> Dunno. (It's a work laptop, I haven't really paid much attention to it.)
22:09:18 <quintopia> fizzie: that carbon g16 layout is identical to my laptop's
22:09:34 <quintopia> (the pageup/pagedn location is really annoying)
22:11:08 <baordog> Esoteric is turning out to be a much more active channel than I imagined.
22:11:17 <alercah> it's pretty great hth
22:11:34 <baordog> Why is the eso lang community so active?
22:13:37 <wob_jonas> baordog: same as any well-working internet community. people talk not only about esolangs, but about all other stuff, and esolangs is just the excuse to bring birds of a feather together.
22:15:10 <quintopia> wob_jonas: did you watch much of the esa marathon? I'm gonna load up the video of the SM64 120-star race finale tonight.
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22:17:16 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I watched a few videos from it, but it's much smaller and somewhat less impressive than GDQ
22:17:29 <baordog> Yeah sorry to have missed gdq this year.
22:17:32 <wob_jonas> quintopia: it's particularly disappointing when they run the same game as in GDQ, but with worse skill
22:17:39 <baordog> What's the new hotness in esolang?
22:17:49 <wob_jonas> baordog: you can still watch the videos on archive or youtube
22:17:51 <quintopia> wob_jonas: i was disappointed with some, but some others are actually pretty great
22:18:05 <quintopia> wob_jonas: the SMW 96 exit race was really good
22:18:10 <quintopia> (except you don't like races)
22:18:19 <quintopia> wait
22:18:20 <quintopia> no
22:18:22 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I still have to watch some of the GDQ videos, especially some of the final encodes where the temp encodes are bad
22:18:22 <quintopia> it wasn't a race
22:18:26 <quintopia> it was just a run
22:18:28 <wob_jonas> what? I like races
22:18:32 <quintopia> oh
22:18:33 <quintopia> well
22:18:37 <wob_jonas> it was someone else who didn't like races
22:18:45 <quintopia> the smw 96 exit run was well-played
22:18:57 <quintopia> there was a race i watched...
22:18:59 <quintopia> what was it
22:20:15 <quintopia> oh right
22:20:28 <quintopia> there was an excellent Limbo Any% Normal Route race!
22:20:37 <wob_jonas> in SGDQ, which game was that not very old puzzle game with nice 3d scenery graphics? I watched it once but now can't find it
22:20:44 <quintopia> those guys were neck-and-neck until the last world
22:20:51 <quintopia> Catherine?
22:21:09 <quintopia> oh
22:21:11 <quintopia> i know
22:21:15 <quintopia> The Witness
22:21:17 <quintopia> right?
22:21:22 <wob_jonas> not Catherine
22:21:44 <wob_jonas> yes, it's The Witness
22:21:45 <wob_jonas> thank you
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22:41:28 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-pud
22:41:28 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
22:41:37 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-pout
22:41:37 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
22:41:51 <hppavilion[1]> @massages-lout
22:41:51 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
22:41:57 <hppavilion[1]> @messages-loud
22:41:57 <lambdabot> orin said 4h 1m 59s ago: you could make a terror alert command by running a google news search every half hour, grabbing place names
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22:54:30 <shachaf> oerjan: are you sure hmph doesn't mean "his master's pooch's hmph" twh
22:55:37 <quintopia> i think it means "he makes puns here" hth
23:13:26 * baordog hears Catherine and gets all turned on.
23:20:31 <hppavilion[1]> baordog: ...
23:23:44 <baordog> lol
23:24:29 <baordog> Who doesn't get turned on by super hard games?
23:24:37 <int-e> The Witness seems expensive
23:24:38 <baordog> Anyone on here still play dwarf fortress?
23:25:23 <int-e> Not as ridiculously expensive as No Man's Sky, but still.
23:26:32 <int-e> (Kerbal Space Program is another surprisingly expensive game, imho)
23:27:09 <baordog> Is No Man's Sky even out?
23:27:17 <baordog> Or is it still in some kind of weird beta limbo?
23:28:49 <int-e> not quite released yet
23:29:08 <int-e> but it's supposed to come out *checks local time* this month
23:31:29 <int-e> "preorder incentive"...
23:32:05 <int-e> Oh well, I think I'll continue to play cheap old games... there's a near infinite supply of those.
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23:44:23 <oerjan> ah, new month
23:45:36 <int-e> and I still haven't solved shachaf's regular languages over single letter alphabet puzzle
23:45:37 <izabera> yay
23:45:58 <izabera> just be happy that you survived another month
23:46:48 <int-e> (The graph with marked nodes thing can be viewed as universality of an NFA over a single letter alphabet.)
23:48:12 <quintopia> what platforms will get no mans sky? isnt it just ps4 or something?
23:48:36 <quintopia> helloerjan
23:48:52 <pikhq> PS4 and Windows.
23:49:17 <quintopia> oh boy
23:49:43 <quintopia> it is most likely worth to astronomical price
23:49:51 <quintopia> pun intended
23:49:56 <izabera> badum tss
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23:52:00 <oerjan> hellopia
23:52:08 <oerjan> `date
23:52:15 <HackEgo> Sun Jul 31 22:52:09 UTC 2016
23:52:23 <oerjan> @messages-bold
23:52:23 <lambdabot> int-e said 12h 55m 8s ago: did you find https://oeis.org/A111042 ?
23:52:48 <oerjan> int-e: ah, no.
23:54:23 <oerjan> int-e: well, then oeis probably has all the info they want.
23:55:03 <Taneb> Trivia: OEIS will one day be exhaustive
23:55:05 <int-e> apparently they appreciate extensions of sequences regardless
23:55:09 <oerjan> ok
23:55:44 <oerjan> i guess they may have more space now than in 2006.
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